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maxwellianyofel: Well would it have been different with Perl or Ruby?00:10
yofelmaxwellian: no, that's why I said c++00:10
maxwellianyofel: Well you didn't -- any of the other dynamic languages. :(00:10
maxwellianyofel: It's a "feature" of dynamic languages that caused this problem, it's nothing specific to Python.  (From what I understand, which is not much.)00:11
shadeslayerhmm00:11
shadeslayeri have a friend here who has a broadcom card and : http://pastebin.ca/190632600:12
shadeslayeron 10.04... but he cant seem to find any networks00:12
shadeslayerhe says he has turned off his SSID.....00:12
yofelmaxwellian: I know, but that *feature* can be annoying as hell sometimes (it has its benefits yes, but it usually causes me more problems than that I benefit from it)00:13
maxwellianyofel: I agree, it can bite you, I just don't think you should blame Python for something that a whole class of languages share.00:14
shadeslayerah yes.. it was the SSID00:14
maxwellianyofel: We should have karma for whole families of languages, I guess. ;)00:14
yofelack00:14
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jjesseJontheEchidna where is muon going to reside in kde?02:56
JontheEchidnajjesse: extragear02:59
jjesseJontheEchidna thanks03:00
jjesseworking on documentation finally03:00
jjessegot sick of working on work at night so now doing fun03:00
jjesseyeah i know i'm wierd that documentation is fun03:01
* maxwellian was just going to say that03:01
jjessenice maxwellian03:02
jjessedoes reqonk save downloads in ~/Documents for you by default?03:13
jjessefor me it is saving things there instead of ~/Downloads03:13
Darkwing-Netbookanyone about?03:43
Darkwing-Netbookupdate-notifier-kde -d doesn't work in 10.04? How to I update internally?03:44
jjesseapt-get dist-upgrade?03:44
* Darkwing-Netbook hugs jjesse 03:45
Darkwing-NetbookSpeaking of...03:45
Darkwing-NetbookI'm leaving for Fort Wayne, IN on the 2nd03:46
Darkwing-NetbookThen moving there mid month jjesse 03:46
jjessenice03:46
jjesseft wayne isn't too far away from me03:46
Darkwing-NetbookI know :)03:46
Darkwing-NetbookI used to live in LaGrange03:46
jjesse3 hours03:46
Darkwing-NetbookYou in Grand Rapids?03:46
jjesseyup03:47
Darkwing-NetbookThey still have the hot air balloon fest?03:47
jjesseumm03:47
jjessedon't remember03:47
Darkwing-NetbookI remember that when I was there (15 years +)03:47
jjessegrand rapids has changed a lot since then03:47
jjessehrmm bed time :)03:48
Darkwing-NetbookKK03:48
Darkwing-NetbookI'll let you know when I'm in the area.03:48
Darkwing-NetbookWife has never seem Amish country :D03:48
Darkwing-NetbookPlus, you me and Rich will have to get together for some beers or something.03:49
ScottKjjesse: re your mail - you should be able to switch back and forth between netbook an desktop with no loss of configuration for either.04:22
Darkwing-NetbookWho does the website information these days?05:30
Darkwing-NetbookNM, I'll talk about it tomorrow... The site FAQ is out of date.05:31
Darkwing-NetbookNight.05:31
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Riddellkubuntu-netbook-default-settings uploaded with global menu and lockout widgets added09:21
* Riddell does the Qt 4 compiled on ARM dance09:48
Riddelland now I upload another Qt 4 just to keep the buildds busy09:49
Quintasan\o09:54
eMyllerspeaking of global menu, is there something like it to desktop?09:55
* eMyller just noticed a globalmenu-kde package09:56
eMyllerno oxygen chance for it? :\09:56
Riddellplasma-widget-menubar can be used with plasma desktop09:58
eMyllergreat; was trying to install xbar -- as suggested by globalmenu-kde --, but the pkg is broken here. :\10:00
eMyllerRiddell: so is qtcurve/bespin required?10:02
Riddellglobal menu is unrelated to the theme10:02
eMylleri just installed it, but get nothing more than File » Close10:02
eMyllerrestart?10:02
Riddellonce you add the menubar widget to plasma it will apply to newly started applications10:03
eMylleroh, i have tried a new konsole window; i had another instance running, this is why i didn't get the menu bar, i guess. it's working perfectly now, thanks! :D10:05
* eMyller 've been waiting for this for a long time. w00t!!10:05
eMyllerany chance to show the application icon at left, in a next release?10:06
RiddelleMyller: why?10:12
Riddellin plasma-netbook the current application widget shows the app icon in the panel10:13
eMyllerthe app icon makes it faster to recognize the app than reading the menu items text10:14
eMyllerhm, i should look for this widget in desktop10:14
eMyllerdidn't find it :(10:15
RiddellCurrent Application Control10:16
Riddellit's part of the plasma-netbook package10:17
eMylleroh10:17
eMyllermaybe it'd be cool to have in desktop as well..10:17
Riddellplasma-netbook is now on the main CD so it'll be there10:18
eMylleroh, awesome. is it planned to be backported to lucid?10:18
Riddellyou can install plasma-netbook in lucid10:19
eMyllerhm, thought it came in a separate package.. ok then. thanks :)10:19
eMylleralso, is globalmenu working for gnome apps in there?10:19
RiddelleMyller: yes it ought to10:20
eMyllernot here yet... maybe i have to restart the qt-gtk thing... will test later then. thanks.10:21
agateauRiddell: eMyller: for gnome apps to take advantage of appmenu, you need to install the appmenu-gtk package10:23
eMylleragateau: no package with this name here10:26
eMylleri did some aptitude searches, nothing like that10:26
Riddellit's not in lucid10:27
agateaueMyller: for lucid you have to use the Unity PPA10:27
eMyllerok, will look for that. thanks :)10:27
Riddellagateau: plasma-widget-menubar and Qt uploaded10:28
agateauRiddell: thanks10:28
* Riddell spots qtwebkit-source compiling on ARM10:30
Riddellshadeslayer: what were you going to remind me to do in the morning?10:30
eMyllerRiddell: i had something like this in mind when i asked about the icon: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopws1407 (second image)10:33
RiddelleMyller: buy agateau non-alcoholic beer and he might code it as an option for you :)10:39
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu, making your PC friendly | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Kubuntu Meeting, Monday 19:00UTC, #ubuntu-meeting
eMyllerhaha10:40
agateaueMyller: the part on the left in the first image is the appcontrol widget, right?10:40
eMylleragateau: yes10:41
eMyllersheytan: 10:41
agateaueMyller: I am not very familiar with plasma-netbook yet, it lets you switch apps, right?10:41
eMylleragateau: yep10:43
eMyllerit also lets you max/min/close the window when an app has focus10:43
agateaueMyller: with your mockup, only the icon could be use to switch then10:43
agateaueMyller: I would image it would be possible to split the applet in two, so that you can put the switch part on the left of the menu and the window control on the right10:44
agateaueMyller: I kind of remember a blog post about an applet like this in the work10:44
eMylleractually i wasn't even thinking abotu a switching feature; instead, the icon would belong to File menu or would show default window options10:44
agateauneed to reboot, brb (if new kernel works)10:45
eMyllerheh10:45
eMyllersheytan: sorry, hit enter too early; will talk to you soon :)10:46
eMyllerwill restart and take a nap10:57
eMylleroh, wb, agateau10:58
MamarokRiddell: the https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings still says #kubuntu-netbook in the header, is this valid again?10:58
Riddellprobably not but I'll let ScottK declaire on that, he opened the channel10:59
ryanakcaWhat's the status of www.k.o? Do the sysadmins need prodding?11:02
Riddellryanakca: what does the rt say?11:03
Riddellshadeslayer: you packaged kdevelop but not kdevplatform?11:04
ryanakcaRiddell: Ah, apparently the sysadmins are still working on it.11:05
ryanakcaIn any case, time for breakfast then work.11:06
eMyller'bk11:08
eMyllerweird stuff, dude11:08
eMylleri'm getting menu bars both at the window and at the plasma widget after restart11:09
eMyllerRiddell: any idea why? it was working before installing libgtk from unity ppa the restart.11:14
RiddelleMyller: I don't know, they recently changed the dbus interface so it may be an incompatibility there11:17
bulldog98Riddell: I packaged the new kdevelop-php, should I send it to revu?11:55
Riddellbulldog98: great, yes revu12:09
Riddellbulldog98: we're still missing kdevplatform though (unless you know different)12:10
bulldog98Riddell: it can be build with version 1.0.0, because it had no api changes12:10
yofelRiddell: could you rebuild qtm? bug 573785 seems like it was last build against qt 4.6 beta12:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 573785 in qtm (Ubuntu) "QTM crashes when a window is launched" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57378512:14
Riddellbulldog98: still, I don't want to upload kdevelop or kdevelop-php without the new kdevplatform being packaged12:17
bulldog98Riddell: but uploading to revu is ok, because it won’t get build by it12:17
Riddellyofel: do you want to give me a debdiff (means karma for you)12:18
Riddellbulldog98: yes12:18
bulldog98Riddell: maybe I’ll find some time to update that this evening12:18
yofelRiddell: what would be a good version, 1rebuild ?12:18
Riddellyofel: -1build112:18
yofelok12:18
yofelRiddell: http://yofel.dyndns.org/ext/qtm_1.1.1-1build1.debdiff12:22
Riddelllovely12:24
yofelRiddell: do you think I could get a SRU for this? as it's currently unusable in lucid too12:27
Riddellyofel: yes could do12:41
Riddelldo you want to file the bug?12:41
yofelshouldn't I just nominate bug 573785 for lucid when it's fixed in maverick?12:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 573785 in qtm (Ubuntu) "QTM crashes when a window is launched" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57378512:42
yofeland subscribe ubuntu-sru12:43
Riddellyofel: you also need to add it to the lucid-backports package, add the lucid patch, add a test case, confirm that you've compiled and tested it then get me or someone to upload it13:06
Riddellyofel: I'm afraid SRUs are necessarily hassle13:06
yofelI know, and shouldn't it be lucid-propsed? Or why exactly would this be a backport13:07
Riddellsorry ignore the lucid-backports bit13:08
Riddellit's not a backport13:08
yofelok, I'll do the SRU procedure once it's rebuilt in maverick13:08
ScottKRiddell and Mamarok: No, that's not valid.  Please remove #kubuntu-netbook.13:28
MamarokScottK: that's what I thought :)13:48
Riddellfabo: this is a quick way to get webkit building with video and audio support http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu_01_phonon.diff14:15
faboRiddell: I just commited 2 patches. you should pick them14:20
faboone for Qt and one for Qt WebKit14:20
txwikingerRiddell: I think the zombie processes appear independent of hibernation14:22
txwikingerhowever I constantly get those, adding up more and more, until I have to reboot, because the system is just blocking all I/O to the HD14:23
faboRiddell: that's the same problem as Qt WebKit14:29
faboRiddell: phonon isn't detected when shipped standalone14:29
faboRiddell: I'm preparing a fix for upstream14:30
fabohmm no14:30
fabotoo fast14:30
fabothat's something else14:30
faboRiddell: you could call qmake DEFINES+=ENABLE_VIDEO=1, it should work without patch14:38
yofeltxwikinger: you mean those? http://paste.ubuntu.com/468008/14:40
txwikingeryofel: yes those14:40
txwikingerOn my desktop, I only have two and no more are created14:41
txwikingerbut on my netbook I get more and more (yesterday it was 2500)14:41
yofelactually the kded zombies are especially annoying (bug 553557)14:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 553557 in acpid (Ubuntu) "kde power button configuration ignored" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55355714:46
faboRiddell: override_dh_auto_configure: dh_auto_configure -- DEFINES+=ENABLE_VIDEO14:47
fabocommited, thanks for the hint14:47
Quintasan<3 cowbuilder15:24
txwikingerRiddell: I found the source.. it happens when you disconnect or connect power..  there is already a bug for it15:35
ScottKRiddell: The new netbook panel layout looks good, but it needs autohide turned off too (using app menu and autohide together is full of usability fail).15:40
* Riddell catches a train to Edinburgh, back online in two days16:33
rbelemhello everybody, i need some help to speedup the process of this bug http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/4320/16:42
rbelemI would like to close this issue until monday16:43
CIA-33[ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100723165859-lhp9k5npymcz4vwr * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Add kubuntu_91_phonon_forget_option.diff from SuSE to allow users with roaming home directories to tell Phonon to always forget about old hw17:59
shadeslayerRiddell: uh.. i should? ill do it right away18:40
shadeslayerbulldog98: around?18:43
shadeslayerooooh... we have kdepim on agenda :D18:49
shadeslayerubuntu font already gets a +1 from me ( altho we should enable autohinting by default )18:49
neversfeldeshadeslayer: I think bulldog is on holiday18:51
shadeslayeris anyone packaging kdevplatform?18:51
shadeslayerneversfelde: ah ok .. didnt know18:51
shadeslayerjust wanted to ask ^^18:51
shadeslayerwhee... karma > 10k18:51
shadeslayerand now my laptop is all kubuntu branded18:52
shadeslayeri think i overdid it... :P18:52
shadeslayerseems no one is packaging kdevplatform .. im doing it then18:52
neversfeldeoh I missed the doodle poll for the next meeting18:52
shadeslayerawww....18:53
neversfeldenever mind, I have time on monday18:53
shadeslayerbtw.. does anyone have a idea why we dont have nepomuk debug packages?18:53
shadeslayeri just met one of the devs18:53
shadeslayerand he was complaining ... and hes switching to arch :(18:54
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^18:54
shadeslayeralso..i now haz akademy t shirt \o/18:55
Sputapachelogger, fregl: have you considered putting Fluffy on this thing: http://exonome.com/fj/phkl/20:12
neversfeldeBoyfriend is optional^^20:13
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shadeslayermaco: Quintasan either of you around?20:42
macoyes20:43
shadeslayermaco: ok,i need kdevplatform sponsored from https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental20:43
shadeslayer:D20:43
shadeslayerbut let it build on buildd first :P20:43
shadeslayerit builds in pbuilder....20:43
shadeslayerheh... poor Distribution builders : 101 jobs (9 hours 40 minutes) << amd6420:45
shadeslayermaco: what benefits do i get if my karma > 10k ? :P20:46
yofelnothing, had 12k once, nobody cared :P20:47
shadeslayerhahaha :P20:48
shadeslayerdoes Qt creator qualify to go into kubuntu updates ppa?20:49
shadeslayer( the new 2.0 version )20:49
shadeslayermaco: btw i received a free pack of http://shop.canonical.com/images/KUB40000.jpg20:51
shadeslayerso now my laptop is all kubuntu branded... :P20:52
macomy laptop has stickers from those too, but i didnt buy them. yay freebies at uds20:52
shadeslayersomeone got it for me from akademy :)20:52
macoahok20:53
shadeslayerplus one of the huge kde stickers + akademy t shirt :P20:53
Quintasanshadeslayer: well, maco was first20:53
shadeslayerQuintasan: you had your chance :D20:53
Quintasananyways, I can't find any package which contains kephal/screen.h, any ideas?20:53
Quintasanon maverick that is20:53
shadeslayer!find kephal/screen.h20:54
ubottuPackage/file kephal/screen.h does not exist in lucid20:54
shadeslayer:/20:54
shadeslayerQuintasan: doesnt exsist :P20:54
Quintasanmaverick20:54
shadeslayerah20:54
Quintasanin lucid it is in kdebase-workspace-dev20:54
shadeslayer!find kephal/screen.h maverick20:54
ubottuPackage/file kephal/screen.h does not exist in maverick20:54
shadeslayerheh..20:54
shadeslayerQuintasan: tried apt-file search ?20:55
Quintasanyes, returns exacly nothing20:55
shadeslayermaybe its dropped/not-installed ?20:55
Quintasanbeats me, it is needed to build plasmoids20:55
yofel!search kephal/screen.h20:56
ubottuFound: 20:56
Quintasansee20:56
Quintasannothing20:56
Quintasan:P20:56
shadeslayerQuintasan: any news on bzr+svn?20:57
Quintasannope20:57
shadeslayerwhats the use of having a 10 GB ppa20:57
shadeslayerwhen you cant build kde20:57
QuintasanI didn't pester them20:57
Quintasanshadeslayer: go and annoy them, it's your turn today :P20:57
shadeslayerill be kicked ^_^20:58
QuintasanWe can always make apachelogger fix it20:58
shadeslayerQuintasan: lets wait till tommorow :D20:58
QuintasanHe <3 Python20:58
shadeslayerheh :P20:58
shadeslayerkubotu: learn that apachelogger <3 python20:58
kubotuokay, learned fact #2: apachelogger <3 python20:58
Quintasanlol20:59
shadeslayerQuintasan: see fact 120:59
yofel~karma python20:59
kubotukarma for python: -1920:59
shadeslayerkubotu: fact 121:00
kubotufact #1 of 2: lex79 owes me a new laptop if this one is blown to pieces [from evilshadeslayer!~shadeslay@ubuntu/member/shadeslayer on Sun Jul 11 03:03:15 +0300 2010 in #kubuntu-devel]21:00
Quintasanlol21:00
Quintasankubotu: fact 221:00
kubotufact #2 of 2: apachelogger <3 python [from shadeslayer!~shadeslay@ubuntu/member/shadeslayer on Fri Jul 23 23:00:09 +0300 2010 in #kubuntu-devel]21:00
shadeslayerbtw anyone using ubuntu beta fonts?21:01
Quintasankubotu: learn that Python magic is Crappy magic21:01
kubotuokay, learned fact #3: Python magic is Crappy magic21:01
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shadeslayermaco: whee.. it seems it builds fine : https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+packages21:29
shadeslayerfrom build log its about to finish21:29
macook poke me when im home from work21:30
shadeslayermaco: work? 0_o21:30
* shadeslayer thought maco was a student 21:30
shadeslayeranyways.. after how many hours?21:31
maco2 hours21:31
macoand i am a student21:32
macostudents dont work in your country, particularly during holiday?21:32
shadeslayermaco: nope... we have training..but we dont get paid for it.. so no actual work as such21:32
macooh. well...then how do they pay for school?21:32
shadeslayertraining == industrial training/exposure/what ever21:33
macoor for like... a place to live while in school?21:33
shadeslayeruh oh...21:33
shadeslayermaco: i stay with my parents :P21:33
shadeslayereveryone does21:33
macooh. thatd be a really really long commute to school for me21:33
macomy parents live 250mi away21:33
maco4hr by car21:33
shadeslayerand the ones living in hostels/PG's get money from their parents21:34
macowhats a pg?21:34
macoi live in a flat21:34
shadeslayerPaying Guest 21:34
shadeslayeryou live in with a family but are a 'Paying' Guest21:34
shadeslayer( not your own family of course )21:34
macoduring school year, i work ~15hr/wk, during summer holiday, i work closer to full time21:34
shadeslayernice... i had to travel 2 hours daily by metro+cab during my 6 week industrial training 21:35
shadeslayerbut then as i said.. i didnt get paid :P21:36
macoi live about 40 minutes from work for metro+bus and 20 from school by metro21:36
macoso you actually *lost* money on the deal then, ugh21:36
macosince you had to pay for the metro & cab21:36
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.ca/1907126 << i hate when downloads go to more than 100 MB21:37
macoso does that mean your parents pay for your schooling too?21:37
shadeslayermaco: heh.. you dont know half the story :P21:37
shadeslayermost of the people pay 4k INR + the travelling stuff to get industrial training here21:37
macohere, only really rich families have the parents pay for the schooling, unless you go to a very cheap public school21:37
shadeslayerwell.. its a different concept here :P21:39
macoseems like21:39
shadeslayerwe get chucked out of the house after we get a full fledged job21:39
macoi will come out of school with massive debt and pay it off over a few years after graduating21:39
shadeslayeruntil the time we are studying... we get pampered ^_^21:39
macowe try to get out as quick as we can :P21:40
* maco points to "250mi"21:40
shadeslayerlol...21:40
macowe're expected to get jobs around age 15. while in secondary school / high school, thats spending money. in college/uni, it's flat money, beer money, food money... everything21:40
shadeslayermost of the countries have this concept21:40
shadeslayerindia doesnt :P21:40
shadeslayermaco: thing is ... no one will employ me until i have a proper degree ( i.e a undergraduate degree )21:41
macoand getting a job after uni is pretty hard if you didnt have one during21:41
shadeslayerthats the min. criteria 21:41
macoexperience counts a lot here21:42
macoso if you have a degree but no work experience, you wont get hired here21:42
shadeslayeryes.. thats why we have this training period of 6 weeks21:42
macoonly 6 weeks?21:42
shadeslayerafter our 2nd and 3rd year21:42
shadeslayermaco: yeah.. 6 weeks == entire summer holidays gone21:42
macooh wow ours are 12wk21:43
shadeslayerso we started our summer holidays on 14th june,i got placed on 15th june.. college opens this monday21:43
macoand internships *don't* count as work experience, according to some employers here. (what you describe... not being paid, but doing work... sounds like internships)21:43
macowow. we started summer holidays mid-may and start school again 30 aug21:44
shadeslayermaco: its called industrial training here.. but thats what i call it personally.. internships 21:44
shadeslayermaco: and the best part... i dont know if i cleared the previous sem21:44
shadeslayerresults will be out in October.... just before the exams for the next sem start21:45
shadeslayeryes... i have a ....weird uni... :P21:45
Quintasanomfg21:52
Quintasanthat reminds me21:52
QuintasanI wonder if I passed CAE21:53
shadeslayerCAE ??? :P21:55
Quintasanshadeslayer: Certificate in Advanced English22:45
Quintasan:P22:45
shadeslayeroh i see22:45
shadeslayeri was certified in something called Business Enlgish Course by the British Council22:46
shadeslayerBEC for short22:46
shadeslayerQuintasan: http://www.britishcouncil.org/india-exams-bec.htm22:47
shadeslayeri scored 90/100 in BEC Vantage :P22:47
shadeslayerQuintasan:  bug 609276 << should i backport to ppa?22:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 609276 in qtcreator (Ubuntu) "qt-creator in (k)ubuntu out of date" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60927622:48
ScottKBackport to backports ....22:49
shadeslayerScottK: lucid-backports?22:49
ScottKThat's the sort of thing it's there for.22:49
shadeslayerScottK: ok.. can you upload kdevplatform from https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental22:50
ScottKBackports should come from Maverick.22:50
shadeslayerScottK: of course22:50
shadeslayerScottK: any idea why we dont have virtuoso debug packages?22:51
ScottKNo22:51
shadeslayer:(22:51
shadeslayerScottK: cant be backported.... we need Qt 4.7 in lucid to build qtcreator 2.022:59
shadeslayerBuild-Depends: cdbs, debhelper (>= 7.4.15), libqt4-dev (>= 4:4.7.0~), qt4-dev-tools 22:59
ScottKOK.  That's a good reason to put it in a PPA.23:00
shadeslayerill upload to PPA then23:00
shadeslayerdoesnt need any changes imo23:00
eMyllerhow's lightspark behaving today?23:01
shadeslayereMyller: doesnt work for me in maverick23:02
eMyllergonna test it at lucid23:02
shadeslayerScottK: should i put it in beta backports?23:03
shadeslayeror just backports23:03
* shadeslayer opts for beta backports...23:03
eMylleri faced a weird problem this morning; plasma-widget-menubar was working flawlessly, then after i installed appmenu-gtk and restarted, the menu bar appeared in both application window and in the plasma-widget.23:04
ScottKshadeslayer: Beta (since it needs Qt 4.7)23:04
shadeslayerhmm23:04
ScottKeMyller: See my recent blog post on planet ubuntu on the topic.23:04
eMyllerreading, thanks :)23:06
ScottKBottom line is it's because the GTK stuff is behind the Qt stuff.  Of course.23:07
eMyllerheh23:07
eMylleri was about to uninstall appmenu-gtk23:07
shadeslayerScottK: uploading 23:08
shadeslayerand then ill go to sleep23:08
ScottKOK23:09
eMyllerScottK: actually my 80appmenu doesn't have DISPLAY_BOTH; should i add it with 0?23:10
ScottKeMyller: Worth a try.  Not sure as stuff may have changed.23:11
eMyllerScottK: is that trick for gtk apps only?23:12
eMyllerthe problem happened to me with both qt and gtk.23:12
eMyllerwell, restarting X; brb23:12
shadeslayerScottK: eMyller night :)23:13
ScottKeMyller: The DISPLAY_BOTH environment variable affects both Qt and GTK, but it (at least was) shipped only in the GTK package.23:17
eMyllershadeslayer: sleep well :)23:18
eMyllerScottK: setting it to 0 didn't work. now it's not even working for gtk apps :P23:19
ScottKeMyller: Sorry.  No idea then.  That solved it a week ago.23:20
eMyllernp. maybe something is getting changed..23:20
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eMyllerScottK: just did some tests here; 1) i have uninstalled appmenu-gtk and rm'ed 80appmenu and it's working again with qt apps; 2) installed appmenu-gtk 0.1.1 and did the trick you mentioned, but didn't work. :\ 3) installed 0.1.3 again, and it's misteriously working with qt but not with gtk.23:37
ScottKYou probably don't have 80appmenu at all and you need that for the GTK stuff.23:38
ScottKPurge appmenu-gtk and then reinstall to get it back.23:38
ScottK</guess work>23:38
eMylleri did it23:38

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