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mshortshello. I need help. I have gotten a wireless adapter so I can use with Kubuntu and have the zip downloaded from realtek .... now what do I do? I know it was make and make install but I can't remember all the details01:10
mshortsanyone home01:15
mshortshello. I need help. I have gotten a wireless adapter so I can use with Kubuntu and have the zip downloaded from realtek .... now what do I do? I know it was make and make install but I can't remember all the details01:16
mshortsanyone here02:07
luis__hi everyone i have openoffice3.2 and i opened an hour ago and told me there's an update available i click ok and it downloaded a .tar.gz file how do i applied that so my openoffice can be updated?02:15
luis__hel please02:15
luis__help*02:16
luis__thanks anyway i already find out how to do the update with that file :P02:32
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sea4everHi, there seems to be something strange going on with my X server.02:55
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sea4everThe edges of gradients are green-pixellated and sort of flickering, but only sometimes.02:55
sea4everI've booted into BSD (here I am now) and it doesn't occur.02:55
sea4everI've also taken screenshots and checked them but the green pixels are not saved, it looks normal.02:56
cato37after playing supertux, the screen resolution had a hard time resetting, and now the information bar in dolphin won't auto adjust. it is stuck in monster size. how do i get it back to being adustable?03:13
kwtmHi!  How are you all?03:31
cato37after playing supertux, the screen resolution had a hard time resetting, and now the information bar in dolphin won't auto adjust. it is stuck in monster size. how do i get it back to being adustable?04:07
cato37have agood night all.04:14
avihaymmm, anyone know why my dolphin takes 540MB of RAM?  I only have 40 tabs open. it also seems to grow as time goes by, when I start the computer, dolphin doesn't take that much memory05:07
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navetzHi I need help. New applications that I install are not beign added to my start menu.06:47
navetzHow can I fix this?06:47
sea4everYou can log out and back in and that'll fix it for sure, or you can run update-menus in a terminal06:49
idanka_hali06:49
idanka_tud valaki segíteni Kubuntu/nvidia csúnya fontokban?06:50
navetzsea4ever: logging out and in has not fixed it, and update-menus doesn't work as a command for me06:52
sea4everOh interesting, how'd you install the new stuff?06:53
navetzsea4ever:  with apt-get06:53
sea4everWell..maybe kbuildsyscoca? :\ Since nothing else works06:55
navetzsea4ever: I am trying that now, I don't really know what its suppose to do and it gives me some errors06:59
sea4everWhat are the errors?07:01
navetzsea4ever: humm, seems to have worked, plasma desktop crashed but the menu items are there now after it restarted07:02
sea4everlol weird, but it works..dunno why plasma went and crashed though.07:03
navetzsea4ever: what does that program do?07:05
sea4evernavetz: Y'know I have no idea really. It rebuilds some kde thing or other.07:06
navetzsea4ever: haha well thanks for recommending it07:06
sea4everlol. No problem. If you ever figure out what it does let me know though07:07
sea4everOh wait I got it. It's 'kbuildsycoca' and it rebuilds the 'kSyCoCa' Kde System configuration Cache.07:08
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gunsofbrixtonhi, how do I know which qt libraries I have on my system?09:58
gunsofbrixtonI mean, which version...09:58
Torchgunsofbrixton: kde4-config --version shows you what kde uses.10:02
Thrikhi all.  using quassel, i accidently clicked on the menu item to hide the menu.  now, i can't figure out to unhide the file menu.  any clues?10:22
Thrikctrl-m10:25
dany_hi all10:35
dany_I got a problem10:35
dany_I upgraded to Kubuntu  1010:35
dany_and now sometimes when I try to shutdown the system the system does not10:36
dany_shutdown properly10:36
dany_there is the blue screen with the text "kubuntu 10" and the loading bar but it does not shutdown :(10:37
dany_in these cases I must reboot the system and shutdown.. What can I do?10:37
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dany_is there nobody?11:19
Misteriodany_: no :P11:25
dany_:D11:25
dany_one in the desert :P11:25
Chicanohi everyone11:27
MisterioHi Chicano11:28
ChicanoI've got backports installed and have seen blocked koffice updates for quite some time now.11:28
ChicanoI guess my question is: why haven't the prerequisite packages been uploaded to the archives?11:28
MisterioChicano: Did you check universe and that stuff enabled?11:28
Misterioif there are enabled11:28
Chicanoyeah, main, universe and multiverse are all enabled11:29
MisterioChicano: Have you tried updating in a terminal? "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade"11:30
Chicanoyep, tried apt-get and aptitude11:30
Chicanothe koffice 2.2.1 packages remain blocked11:30
ChicanoThe first week I didn't even pay any mind to the blocked packages11:31
Chicanobut since it's not an experimental package, I'd like to update them if at all possible11:32
MisterioChicano: Do you have backports enabled? Is Koffice a backport version?11:32
CaNochello, my screen is 1280x1024, but every time i reboot, it's alway 1600x1200, I'm using ATI proprietary driver.11:34
CaNochow can I fix it?11:35
ChicanoHm I though koffice 2.2.1 *had* to be backports but it seems it isn't11:36
Chicanook now I'm confused - I removed all "external" repo's (all entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* are commented out) but I *still* get the blocked updates11:42
MisterioChicano: Try disabling backports11:42
ChicanoIndeed, they're in the (non kubuntu-specific) backports11:44
Chicanoaren't packages from there supposed to be at least upgradeable?11:45
MisterioChicano: No, backports mean maverick's updates11:46
MisterioChicano: There aren't old versions patched, there are new versions11:46
MisterioChicano: Imagine; recommend updates install patches for firefox 3. Backports, instead, installs firefox 3.5 or 411:47
Chicanoyeah but it's a repository separate from ubuntu+1's repos right?11:48
MisterioRight11:48
Chicanothen I would think they would upgrade the prereqs for any package in there as well11:50
Chicanoit's a bit difficult to use a package that you can't install11:53
Chicanobut ok, I guess it can't be helped for now then11:53
Chicanothanks for the help11:54
MamarokChicano: I have those packages installed, did you try installing by hand, eg. sudo apt-get install koffice?12:04
Chicanoyeah I bluntly installed koffice12:05
MamarokChicano: and you can't get the 2.2. version?12:05
MamarokMisterio: backporets doesn't mean Maverick updates on Lucid, that is nonesense12:06
Mamarokbackports*12:06
Mamarok2.2.1*12:06
ChicanoI've currently got 2.2.0, but 2.2.1 remains blocked yeah12:06
MamarokChicano: and did you try changing the mirror server? Maybe switching to main could help12:07
Mamaroksometimes a mirror is not correctly updated12:07
MamarokI use the main server and was able to update without problems12:07
ChicanoI currently use main - local servers are sometimes terribly slow12:08
Chicanobut I'll try switching to see what happens12:08
Mamarokhm, then it really should work12:08
MisterioMamarok: sorry, was busy12:08
MamarokMisterio: np12:08
MisterioMamarok: Doesn't backport mean the next ubuntu's version updates?12:08
MamarokMisterio: not necessarily12:09
Mamarokyou certainly don't get everything that is in +1 in the backports12:09
Chicanostill blocked12:09
Chicanointeresting to see that a server (which is supposedly on one of the fastest networks in this country) which is less than 2 km away is still slower than the main server12:10
Chicanoin case it helps, these packages are blocked: kpresenter, kspread, kword, koffice, kchart, karbon, krita, kplato, kexi, kthesaurus and koffice-libs12:12
Mamarokwhat about koffice-data?12:14
MamarokChicano: do you still have koreport installed from 2.2.0? Maybe removing that can help12:16
Mamarokas it is not needed in 2.2.1 anymore12:17
Chicanoif i try to remove it aptitude tells me that koffice-libs and kplato are broken12:18
ChicanoI guess i'll just accept the solution and see what happens12:19
ChicanoMamarok: I think you're right, the pkgmgt system was basically falling over the disappeared koreport package12:21
MamarokChicano: I remember it was removed when I updated12:22
Mamarokstill, that would be a dependency problem in the 2.2. packages, it should just remove it12:23
Mamarok2.2.1 (my 1 key is not working well, sorry)12:23
ChicanoI honestly have no idea why it didn't12:25
MamarokChicano: don't worry, neither have I, it's just strange it worked for me but not for you12:27
Chicanoah well, it's upgraded now, thanks a bunch :)12:28
MamarokChicano: you are welcome :)12:30
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markithi, I would like to have a program that shows me the wifi hotspot available with a good indication of strenght of the signal. swscanner would be perfect but tells that can' get the list. any tip?13:29
markit(failed to read scan data)13:30
markitwifimanager plasmoid seems not to update data very well, so does not fit to my needs13:31
cvmissiontechcv.mission tec13:46
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BluesKaj'Morning all14:16
cmhola¿?14:55
cmesto funciona?14:55
cmhola?14:56
cmalguien me puede ayudar?14:56
cmno sé cómo va esto14:56
Torch!english | cm14:56
ubottucm: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat14:56
cmoh tanks14:57
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hellslingersigh... does anyone know how to disable emulate3buttons in 10.04? I cannot turn it off for the life of me,15:07
James147hellslinger: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input15:17
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jimmy51_is the kernel installed with 64 bit kubuntu 10.04 a "standard kernel" ?16:12
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slinker12.6.32-24-generic on mine16:13
slinker1so i guess yes16:13
slinker1well standard 64 bit anyway16:14
alelnro1Hello everybody16:16
alelnro1Hey everybody16:16
alelnro1I am trying to install kubuntu 10.04 LTS16:17
alelnro1but I am getting a multicolor screen16:17
James147!hi | alelnro116:17
ubottualelnro1: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!16:17
alelnro1I really do not now what to do, can someone help me?16:17
alelnro1I tried by writting i915.modeset=1 but it does not work16:18
hellslingeralelnro1: what is the problem?16:18
James147alelnro1: multicolor screen? could you explain in abit more detail?16:18
alelnro1Yes, let me show you a pic of something exactly the same I found on internet...1 moment16:18
alelnro1I am getting this problem: http://s3.amazonaws.com/satisfaction-production/s3_images/14588/p_inline.jpg16:19
alelnro1But I am using a desktop computer not a laptop16:19
alelnro1I have Quad Core, 2GB DDR3, GeForge 220 GT, Gigabyte 216:19
James147alelnro1: what graphics card do you have?16:19
James147..16:19
James147:)16:19
hellslingeroh wow, hahaha16:20
hellslingerso is it all vertical bars or is there anything recognizable on the screen?16:20
alelnro1So you see...isn't it a good computer??16:20
alelnro1Yes, all vertical bars16:20
alelnro1I am not able to read anything16:20
timhi, is there a way to configure phonon to use jack as backend? currently it shows me only pulseaudio ...16:20
alelnro1Just like you see on that picture16:20
hellslingerdoes it successfully boot past the ubuntu splash screen?16:20
James147alelnro1: my guess would be  the  Nouveau drivers.....16:21
alelnro1it appears the screen to choose from the menu, like install, try without installing16:21
hellslingertim: there is a way to use mplayer, but not jack, what are you trying to do?16:21
alelnro1So?? Any idea?? I mean16:22
timhellslinger, it is as easy as playing from amarok via jack ...16:22
alelnro1I have to install some drivers in some way16:22
hellslingeralelnro1: are you able to ctrl + alt + F1 and get to a text login?16:22
timhellslinger, since mplayer supports jack, how can i configure phonon to use mplayer as backend?16:23
alelnro1JamesI really do not know16:23
alelnro1I haven't try that16:23
alelnro1Hold on a minute please16:23
hellslingertim: my apologies, there is a gstreamer backend for phonon rather than mplayer16:24
hellslingerhowever, it is not very stable in my experience... I guess I'm curious as to why one might want to use something other than xine... areyou experiencing trouble?16:25
alelnro1James147: I am getting another computer so that I can test and chat at the same time16:25
hellslingertim: if so, we can probably help solve the pulse issue16:25
James147alelnro1: ping me when your ready16:26
timhellslinger, well, the pulse devs weren't really able to help me :/16:26
hellslingertim: what was the problem you were having?16:26
hellslingertim: just no sound?16:26
timhellslinger, pulseaudio causes the machine to hickup, if the breakout box of my audio interface is not connected16:27
hellslingerwhat kind of sound card16:27
timhellslinger, rme hdsp ... http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_multiface_2.php16:28
hellslingerwow great card16:28
timhellslinger, first portable multichannel card with good alsa support16:29
hellslingerwhy not bypass this card entirely and use integrated audio for system alerts and such...16:30
timhellslinger, i don't want to listen to music with the shitty dac and the mini-jack connector of the onboard card, if i have high-quality converters with balanced jack outputs16:31
hellslingertim: understandable, I use my Delta 1010 for that purpose a lot16:32
timhellslinger, via phonon->pulseaudio->jack->alsa?16:33
hellslingertim: a super nice low latency recording card like RME should probably avoid pulse as it is a high latency network based sound stuff16:33
hellslingertim: how about redirecting the phonon config to just use the card via alsa instead of going through pulse?16:34
timhellslinger, it depends on the use case ... playing some music is one use case, running ardour or supercollider another ...16:34
timhellslinger, can i configure  phonon to directly use jack as backend?16:35
hellslingertim: unfortunately no, jack cannot be used with phonon16:35
timhellslinger, hm ...16:35
hellslingertim: jack uses ALSA though and in a way is the same layer as pulseaudio16:35
hellslingertry this:16:35
hellslingerin the System Settings -> muiltimedia list16:36
hellslingeryou should see a list of hardware and pulseaudio should be in that list16:36
timhellslinger, system settings -> multimedia -> phonon shows me just pulseaudio :/16:37
hellslingerI would defer pulse audio in the entire audio output category16:37
hellslingeraha! that is a clue16:37
timhellslinger, (i've checked the `show advanced devices' option)16:37
hellslingerwiat a second here, I see jack in my audio output list16:37
hellslinger(which I didn't think was possible before)16:37
timhellslinger, great ... then we should get my machine to the state of yours ;)16:39
hellslingerthat is interesting that you are unable to see your alsa devices16:39
hellslingerwhat happens when you click youir "Show advanced devices" checkbox?16:40
alelnro12Hey guys I am the same as alelnro116:41
timhellslinger, nothing ... i have checked it anyway16:41
alelnro12James147: What was the combination? alt +??16:41
James147alelnro12: alt + crtl + F116:41
James147alelnro12: that should take you to a terminal16:42
alelnro12when do i put that?16:42
James147alelnro12: once it has fully booted16:42
James147alelnro12: ie once your screen goes funny :)16:42
alelnro12James 147: Right now I am in the menu screen16:42
alelnro12James 147: Oh okey16:43
alelnro12James 147: I pressed that but nothing happens16:43
alelnro12I mean..the colors changed16:44
James147alelnro12: and what happens if you press alt + print screen + k ?16:44
alelnro12James 147: wait I'll try to put the 1st option "try without installing it"16:44
James147alelnro12: opps, yeah you need to pick that option16:45
alelnro12James 147: nothing happens in both ways16:45
alelnro12James 147: I mean, the "bar codes" are still there16:46
hellslingertim: is your card supported by alsa?16:46
James147alelnro12: even if you boot into the "try without instlling" mode?16:46
alelnro12James147: Yes, I am in that option16:47
James147alelnro12: hmm... could you try running the cd check?16:47
hellslingertim: err, sorry are you able to access it through alsa?16:47
hellslingertim: like, alsamixer and adjust inputs and oiutputs?16:47
alelnro12James147: Yes but I really don't think that the cd is the problem...16:48
James147alelnro12: just checking :)16:48
alelnro12OMG!16:48
alelnro12James147: The bars just appeared again!16:48
timhellslinger, alsamixer is not the appropriate tool for it ... there is a dedicated hdspmixer application, shipped with alsa ... the card itself is working via alsa and via jack ...16:48
timhellslinger, one interesting point, that may be interesting ... what version of phonon-backend-xine are you using?16:49
hellslinger0.2.6016:49
alelnro12James147:  Maybe by changing some options? Some modes (F4) ?16:50
James147alelnro12: not sure that would help... sounds like a driver issue to me16:50
alelnro12James147: Yes for me also, but I don't know how to install it!16:51
James147alelnro12: need to get to a terminal :S16:51
alelnro12James147: Yes...but how?!16:51
James147alelnro12: thats what I am not sure about :)16:52
alelnro12James147: Maybe at the computer boot screen?16:52
alelnro12James147: I enter the CD and install the nVidia drivers?16:52
hellslingeralelnro12: if you can't get the system to boot up into even a simple VGA mode, there might be a greater problem affecting you16:52
timhellslinger, hm ... i am running phonon from the kubuntu beta ppa ... 4:4.7.0really4.4.2-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa116:53
James147hellslinger: how do you boot the live cd into vga mode?16:53
alelnro12hellslinger: The thing is that it is entering, but the this stripes are blocking my sight16:53
alelnro12My screen goes like this: http://s3.amazonaws.com/satisfaction-production/s3_images/14588/p_inline.jpg16:54
alelnro12So guys, no idea :S?16:55
hellslingertim: I used to use gentoo, for years actually, part of the reason I switched to ubuntu was to go the "stable" route...16:55
hellslingeralelnro12: I'm checking to see what the init=3 boot equivalent for the live cd is16:55
alelnro12hellslinger: Ok16:56
timhellslinger, me too ... but sometimes i cannot resist ;)16:56
hellslingertim: yeah.. however I'm still puzzled as to why your devices aren't showing up in the list16:57
hellslingerthat should happen anyway16:57
timhellslinger, i guess, i should go to the phonon channel ...16:58
timthey will now some of the internals ;)16:58
hellslingertim: yeah... sounds to me like this could be alsa related though16:59
hellslingeralelnro12: I assume you tried safe graphics mode (F4)?16:59
alelnro12When¡17:00
* James147 dosent see that option here :(17:00
alelnro12hellslinger: When do I F4? F4 appears to me as modes17:01
* James147 shouldent be using the 10.10 alhpa cd :p17:01
alelnro12And I have these options: Normal, Use driver update disc and OEM install (for manufacturers)17:02
hellslingeralelnro12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing the Boot Option Configuration Line17:02
hellslingerFFS17:02
hellslingerhahaha bad URL17:02
alelnro12hmm?17:03
hellslingerhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=mainboot.png17:03
hellslingerare you getting a boot menu like this?17:03
alelnro12Kind of, I am using kubuntu anyway17:03
alelnro12But I do not get safe graphics mode17:03
alelnro12I just get those options I just told you17:03
hellslingeroh I see17:04
hellslingeryeah sorry... I've been up all night17:04
hellslingerhaha17:04
hellslingerso does it only do this on 10.10?17:05
hellslingerdoes it work ok on a previous version of ubuntu/kubuntu?17:05
alelnro12yes17:05
James147hellslinger: alelnro12 is using 10.0417:05
alelnro12but i am working on 10.0417:05
hellslingeroh I thought that was a different comp17:05
alelnro12OH YES!!!17:07
alelnro12It's starting!17:07
alelnro12I wrote vga=771 and it worked :D!17:07
alelnro12Now let's see if it does not get stucked17:07
alelnro12Okey, I am in the console17:08
alelnro12It just disappeared17:08
alelnro12And started the graphic mode :D17:08
hellslingeroh man, I hate that...17:09
hellslinger10.04 did that when I was having trouble with graphics too17:09
hellslingererr xorg.conf trouble that is17:09
alelnro12So the solution for everybody is vga=77117:09
hellslingerhahah17:09
hellslingert would be nice to get some dmesg output or some Xorg.0.log output17:09
hellslingerto see what is going on17:10
alelnro12Yes hehe..I think canonical should repair this ASAP17:10
alelnro12Now, does kubuntu work fast?17:10
hellslingeralelnro12: lsmod and see if nvidia is running17:11
James147alelnro12: depends what you mean by fast :) i find it faster then windws 7 but slower then gnome :)17:11
alelnro12James147: So you would stay with ubuntu..17:11
hellslingernah!17:11
alelnro12hellslinger: I am going to install it, I don't have the menu option17:11
James147alelnro12: hell no, love kde way much more then gnome and can live with it being slightly slower :D17:11
slinker1agreed gnome always ends up ii$$ing me off17:12
hellslingeralelnro12: there are ways to get it running faster17:12
hellslingerfor instance:17:12
alelnro12hey guys I just pressed Alt  + Ctrl + F1 and I don't know how to return to the kde17:13
James147alelnro12: alt+ctrl+f717:14
James147or 8 or 9...17:14
hellslingeralelnro12: if you are using oxygen, go to System Settings -> Appearance -> Style -> Fine Tuning17:14
hellslingerset to "Low Display resolution and low CPU"17:14
hellslingerimprove the snappiness for me a lot17:14
James147soudnt really have anyproblems with preformance >> <alelnro1> I have Quad Core, 2GB DDR3, GeForge 220 GT, Gigabyte 217:15
hellslingerI didn't have problems.. but it just made it more responsive17:15
* James147 goes se see what options he has there17:15
hellslingeralelnro12: are you using OpenGL compositing?17:15
alelnro12heheh I should have that17:15
alelnro12How do I know that?17:15
hellslingerSystem Settings -> Desktop -> Desktop Effects17:16
hellslingeryou'll see a big green check mark17:16
alelnro12Oh wait, I am installing it17:16
hellslingeronly works if you have nvidia driver loading17:16
hellslingererr loaded17:16
hellslingerrequires hardware opengl17:16
alelnro12All right, so when the installation finishes loading, I will check all the things you told me17:17
alelnro12alelnro12 is hapier :)17:17
hellslingersorry, might be overload17:17
hellslingerI've spent a lot of time tweaking those settings on my Core 2 + 9800 GTX17:17
alelnro12That's a nice pc17:17
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hellslingerit's fast either way, but I want it to be really really snappy!17:17
hellslingerhaha17:17
hellslingerI ahve windows 7 and mac os 10.6 on this thing, and I want linux to be faster than both17:18
* alelnro12 is happier17:18
alelnro12Anyway...the installer is going reaaally slow :S17:19
alelnro12Why can that be?17:19
hellslingeryeah, CD boot17:19
alelnro12I am already in the installation process17:20
hellslingeroh very good17:20
hellslingeryeah, your HDs are probably under load17:20
hellslingerI'd just wait till its done and do all that stuff afterward17:20
alelnro12ok17:20
hellslingerlivecd install was slow for me too17:20
alelnro12I just changed the language17:20
hellslingerwhat quad core do you have alelnro12?17:20
alelnro12I am not in live cd...that the problem17:21
alelnro12hellslinger: Intel Core2 Quad Q840017:22
hellslingerGTX 220?17:22
alelnro12No, GT 22017:22
hellslingerchecking benchmarks on that thing, do you game on it?17:23
alelnro12not much..17:24
alelnro12do you know counter strike?17:24
hellslingeryep :)17:24
hellslingerused to play CS:S a lot17:24
alelnro12The same...welll it gets stacked17:25
hellslingerstacked?17:25
hellslingerlike, too much for that card to handle!17:25
hellslinger?17:25
alelnro12yes....isn't it an excellent card17:26
hellslingereek....17:26
alelnro12hmmm?17:27
hellslingergetting maxed out on CS:S... I'll stick with my 9800 GTX17:28
hellslingerolder card, but probably a bit faster17:28
hellslingerhopefully opengl compositing will do OK on it17:28
hellslingerI think it will17:28
hellslingerbut... may not be outstanding17:29
hellslingereither way, there are things you can do to get good snappy performance17:29
hellslingerI run KDE 4 on my 4 year old laptop that has a 615017:29
hellslingerafter some tweaking, it runs great17:29
alelnro12Ok, so it should fly with a 22017:29
hellslingeryeah17:30
alelnro12hellslinger: do you know dealextreme?17:31
hellslingerno, what is it?17:31
hellslingerdeal website, I assume17:32
alelnro12its a chinese website to buy things17:32
alelnro12yes17:32
alelnro12where do you buy things17:32
hellslingernew egg, it has been almost 3 years since I've gotten anything17:33
alelnro12Do they ship internationally?17:33
hellslingernot sure, I imagine they do, they're big17:33
hellslingerthey're customer service is excellent17:34
alelnro12Oh okey, but they do not have "illegal" things such as dealextreme :P17:34
hellslingerhahaha17:34
hellslingerprobably not :)17:34
James147might want to take this to  #kubuntu-offtopic :)17:34
alelnro12No it's ok17:34
alelnro12I just wanted to know that17:34
alelnro12So..my kubuntu is right now being installed17:35
hellslingerThe "present windows" effect for desktop compositing is the real test17:35
hellslingerI use it all the time17:35
hellslingerit's the Mac OS "expose" feeature17:35
alelnro12So do you also have a Mac?17:37
hellslingerhave an old G4 and hackintosh running on this PC17:39
alelnro12Because I want to install a mac os, I never tried one17:39
hellslingerI think KDE was inspired by mac os considerably, however, I do think they improved on many things17:39
hellslingerbest of all worlds is my opinion on it17:40
alelnro12okey, i am about to run it so i'll comment you later17:40
hellslingergood luck, sir17:40
alelnro12Thanks!17:41
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crooks3o6Which drivers should be used for the Prism 2.5 chipset?  Seems as though the Orinoco_pci kernel drivers are default but I only have partial functionality.18:20
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alelnro12Hey guys18:53
marcushello guys i just install kubuntu 10 lts on my laptop but it keeps turning off can someboy help me to fix this please???19:01
crooks3o6marcus: Do you get any error messages or anything?  Check the log files maybe.19:14
Soyburgquestion about kubuntu 10.04 task bar:  how can i change icons for programs i dragged into the task bar?19:23
aguitel_how configure keyboard layout in kde 4?19:25
Freddy2hi19:30
James147aguitel_: sydtem settings > locale  or System settings > mouse and keyboard  > keyboard19:31
James147Soyburg: I think they share the same icons as the entries in the menu (to edit the menu right click the menu icon > edit menu or run kmenueditor)19:33
SoyburgThanks James147!  So if my program isn't in the menu (because I dragged it from /usr/local/bin) I just have to create a menu entry for it and assign an icon, then drag it to the panel?  Thanks again, that helped a lot!19:34
SoyburgYes it works!  Wohooo!19:36
James147Soyburg: then it would be best to either create a menu item or just a .desktop file somewhere (basically what creating a menu item would do)19:36
dany_hi guys19:44
dany_can you tell me the shortcut for changing the desktop19:44
dany_I mean, to switch to another desktop19:44
James147dany_: ctrl + F1-X19:45
dany_uhm19:46
dany_James147: another way?19:46
dany_with the arrows for example19:46
SoyburgI think James147 means that you need to use F1 or F2 to get to desktop 1 or desktop 219:47
dany_Soyburg: yes19:47
dany_I got it19:47
Soyburg(I tried CTRL + F1 + X, hehe)19:47
James147Soyburg: yes :)  and dany_: you can change the shortcut kets in system settings > keyboard & mouse > global keyboard shortcuts19:47
dany_ctrl + F1 or ctrl + F219:48
dany_James147: thx19:48
James147dany_: if you want to use the arrow keys a good shortcut to set is the "Switch to next desktop" under the "KWin" component19:49
dany_James147: is not set for default, right?19:50
James147dany_: (and obviously "Switch to Previous Desktop"  :)  )19:50
James147dany_: dont have one set here and dont know of a default19:50
James147dany_: its not hard to change it though :)19:50
dany_kk19:50
dany_thank you :)19:50
jimmy51_has anyone here used amazon.com's MP3 album download?19:52
jimmy51_i can buy a CD i want in MP3 format for 9 bucks, which is fine with me.  i just don't want some restriction saying i can only use it on this machine.19:53
jimmy51_it says it supports ubuntu (i assume kubuntu too)19:53
James147jimmy51_: can't say for sure, but I think amazon dosn't do DRM on their mp3...  hell itunes now dont have DRM on their stuff :)19:54
jimmy51_James147: ok. i'll give it a try.  i have to download and install their *.deb MP3 downloader app.19:54
jimmy51_crap.  it says wrong arch.  it must be 32 bit only.19:55
Soyburgjimmy51_: I tried it a year ago and they have no drm.19:55
James147jimmy51_: you can run 32 bit on 64... need... um ia32lib or somehting19:55
* James147 wonders why you need extra software to download mp3s19:55
* James147 wonders if amarok can do it through amazon...19:56
SoyburgAnyone know how to make the icons in the task bar grow continuously while enlarging the size of the task bar?  Mine grow up to a point and then snap back to half size.19:58
* James147 cant find a way for amarok to do it :(19:58
jimmy51_James147: me neither.19:59
James147Soyburg: can see the same here... although it needs to be quite large for it to happen :S19:59
SoyburgI have a large screen :)20:00
James147Soyburg: you could try using the quicklaunder widget...20:01
SoyburgJames147: I thought about a replacement, but at the end of the day... I guess I'll stick with the micro icons20:02
James147Soyburg: the quicklaunch widget is preinstalled on kubuntu... its just ap matter of draggin it to the task bar :)20:03
SoyburgThat sounds good James147.  I'll try that.20:03
James147Soyburg: yeah, it works, but you need to force it into 1 row through its settings20:04
lordoes Kubuntu take a lot more ram compared to Ubuntu?20:05
James147lor: wouldnt have thourght it would take that much more if it did... if limited ram is a consern then you might want to try xubuntu20:07
lorJames147, I have 2GB20:07
SoyburgJames147: what does the icon for the quicklauch look like?  Is it a rocket by any chance?  I am on German Kubuntu here, so the names are slightly different.20:07
James147lor: 2 gig is fine :) i have run it off a 512 comp before20:08
lorgreat!20:08
James147Soyburg: yes20:08
James147lor: hell, i think i ran kde 4.0 off a 256 with a pentium 2or 3 :D was a little slow20:08
lorlol :D20:09
lvhhey20:09
lvhim currently running ubuntu lucid20:09
lvhand I want to try out kubuntu without getting rid of my current stuff20:10
jimmy51_James147: dang.  i guess i'll have to do it in a windows VM20:10
lvhdo i just install kubuntu-desktop?20:10
SoyburgJames147: I can't force it into one row (there doesn't seem to be a setting for that), but I was able to change the icon size, so they show up large.  I just don't get how the icons are to be changed.20:10
James147lvh: yes, you just need to install kubuntu-desktop20:10
SoyburgJames147: ignore my previous comment. Found it.20:10
lvhJames147: Okay, thanks! :-)20:10
James147Soyburg:  :D20:11
lvhhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/freeflying/4036438792/in/set-72157622515083587/20:11
James147Soyburg:  might need to set the row count to 1 first :)20:11
lvhThat looks like a hell of a lot bigger a screen than a netbook.20:11
lvhIs the resolution very low, or something?20:11
lvhI'm interested in trying if these new small-screen GUIs also work for big screens.20:11
* James147 waits for image to load... dont know whats up with his connection atm20:11
SoyburgJames147: I am afraid there is no row count.  Just an icon size slider.20:11
lvhI'm guessing the thing that will make me angry is terrible multihead.20:11
lvhmy dev box has 3x24" now20:12
James147lvh: that look like the netbook version of a larger screen... netbooks are probally ment to be 1/2 the size of that or smaller20:13
lvhJames147: Yes, that's what it looks like to me too.20:13
lvhBut I find the ideas presented in netbook gui's pretty attractive; I don't understand why they are exclusive to netbook guis20:14
lvhI understand why netbook guis want them (no room for the big thing), though20:14
James147lvh: but I ask, why would you want to try the netbook on 3x24" screens... as much as I love it.... i only use it on my netbook as it dosent work as well (as one would think) on larger screens20:14
lvhI guess I could just TIAS. Will installing kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-netbook hose anything?20:14
lvhJames147: ah, alas20:14
lvhJames147: I use a tiling wm now anyway20:14
lvhbut I keep trying the new traditional gui stuff, under the assumption that they might have come up with something better :-)20:15
James147lvh: kde 4.5 has a window tilling mode now :D ... although they dont have very good multihead support yet20:15
lvhJames147: Cool :-)20:15
macolvh: no it wont hose anything. its the default in 10.1020:15
lvhI've seen some people use compiz as an el cheapo tiling wm20:16
lvhmaco: I meant "at the same time". Is that what you meant too?20:16
macoyou choose which you want using systemsettings -> workspace20:16
James147lvh: btw, if you install kubuntu-desktp and kubuntu-netbook... you can have the search and launch interface on plasma-desktop20:16
lvhmaco: Okay, cool! Thanks.20:16
lvhJames147: this sounds like an interesting prospect, I'll try it out20:16
macolvh: 4.5's tiling doesnt work the same as xmonad's, if thats what youre used to20:16
lvhI've got a 13" ultraportable20:16
lvhmaco: stumpwm20:16
lvhmaco: it's like emacs but for windows that arent emacs windows20:17
macoim waiting for a 11.6" kubuntu netbook remix netbook to show up20:17
* maco is a vim user20:17
lvhmaco: ah. Well, it's different :)20:17
lvhemacs does not appear to have a Qt thing :(20:18
Soyburghave a nice day and thanks for the help James14720:18
djusticeweird question: i have a dir. i need to make a .img (ext4) of it. how?20:25
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James147djustice: not sure if this is the best way... but: dd if=/dev/zero of=~/test.img; mkfs.ext4 ~/text.img; sudo mount ~/test.img /mnt -o loop    then copy the files to /mnt worked for me :S20:33
jimmy51_James147: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9145072&postcount=17  <- got it20:45
jimmy51_James147: just downloaded the inception OST and a CD i bought back in highschool, scratched, and never found again20:46
jimmy51_kubuntu wins again20:46
jimmy51_(after a little convincing)20:46
James147jimmy51_: :D20:47
JuJuBee__I can't seem to get my iPod Nano 16G (new) to sync with Amarok/Banshee/Rhythmbox Any help?21:21
hellslingerJuJuBee__: have you tried GTKpod?21:26
hellslingerthey all use libgpod, I believe, so if it isn't supported in amarok and others, it probably wont' work elsewhere21:29
hellslingermight be too new and isn't supported yet21:29
winmuttim trying to get a dual headed radeon and my onbooard vid card to give me three displays, i can get either to work but not both21:32
glaucousWhat's the location of the files used by the file indexer (Nepomuk)? I'd like to change the location either by linking file or change file location with any config file.21:34
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James147glaucous: look at ~/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk21:51
JuJuBee__hellslinger: no, I have not.  I will install it and try it21:52
dlpDo we have any IMAP gurus here?21:54
glaucousJames147, thanks, that's correct :)21:54
dlpIs it possible to read/write to IMAP directories as if they're FTP?21:55
dlpe.g. to falsify header data, etc?21:55
dlpThe real question is: is it possible to edit files... either directly or by replacement?21:56
glaucousWhat's the command for using KDE to kill an application/process?21:58
dlpkill21:59
glaucousThere's like a kdequit command or something, but I guess I can use kill as well21:59
James147glaucous: although that dosent use kde :) ^^21:59
James147glaucous: kquitapp21:59
glaucousJames147, ah, thanks, that's the one21:59
dlppgrep <process_name> | xargs kill22:00
James147dlp: killall <process_name>  is quicker to type :)22:00
dlpor, actually, just killall <... yeah22:00
hellslingerpkill22:00
hellslingerhehe22:00
hellslingerso many ways to kill processes22:00
glaucousOkay killall works the best22:01
glaucousin this scenario22:01
dlpman pkill22:01
James147dlp: had the same plan :D22:02
dlpIt basically does the same thing.22:02
James147yeah22:02
dlpExcept it takes a pattern rather than a name.22:03
dlpWhich killall will do anyway with the -r option.22:03
dlpWell anyway... does anyone know the answer to my IMAP question?22:05
dlpThis is important.22:05
dlpI need to know if I can use an email in evidence.22:05
dlpAnd its timestamps.22:06
dlpAnd content.22:06
dlp(but on a server that I don't have root access to)22:06
James147dlp: you might want to consider asking in #ubuntu there are usually alot more people in there22:06
dlpBut I obviously do have access to the mailbox.22:07
dlpYeah, I suppose that would make sense.22:07
dlpI realy don't understand why GNOME is so more widespread than KDE.22:08
James147dlp: i think it was adopted eariler on when qt had some licening issues22:09
James147dlp: but the issues where sorted out... and people dont like change22:09
dlpthat's true.22:10
dlpBut things are changing whether people like it or not.22:10
dlpI mean, most people use Windows.22:11
dlpAnd that changes a lot.22:11
James147dlp: atm alot of people still consider kde4.x to be to unstable/incomplete :( i mean its still missing networking, printer config, samba config22:11
dlpHas kinda gone a similar way to KDE, actually.22:11
dlpYes, I know.22:11
James147dlp: ah, windows dosent change alot... and look at the changes they made... most poeple hated them at first22:12
dlpLots still do.22:12
James147dlp: so see, people don't like change :(22:12
dlpI'm supposed to be doing some work on the KDE networkmanagement, actually.22:12
dlpI got as far as building an environment.22:13
James147dlp: then do you know the current state of the widget?22:13
dlpWhich didn't work too well. I can hack around the issues (but risk breaking my system in the process) :-S22:13
dlpPretty much.22:13
dlpi.e. I've tried to use it.22:13
alonsoanyone can help me22:14
James147!help | alonso22:14
ubottualonso: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:14
alonsomy device is not getting mounted22:14
James147alonso: define: "my device"22:14
alonsoaltough they have a /dev node22:14
alonsousb stick22:14
alonsocdrom22:14
alonsosometime its doesn't mount but theres /dev/sr022:15
alonsosometime theres no /dev/sr0 node22:15
James147alonso: kubuntu dosent auto mount things (for some reason... well at least not on first plug in) check the device norifier (should be on your panel)22:15
alonsono devices22:16
alonsomy usb is there22:16
James147alonso: can you manually mount them?22:16
alonsoformated as fat3222:16
alonsoyes22:16
alonsoits /dev/sdb22:16
James147alonso: your usb stick is listed in the device notifier?22:16
alonsoand i can format it using gparted22:16
alonsono22:16
alonsooh unchecked automont22:17
alonsothats it22:17
alonsobut what about my cdrom22:17
alonso/dev/sr0 node sometime isnt there22:18
James147alonso: when a _non_ blank cd is in the drive?22:18
alonsoyeah22:19
alonsowell i dont remember22:19
alonsoright now is there22:19
alonsobut i rember not seeing it22:19
James147alonso: :S not sure why they arent in /dev then... possible lose cable/faulty hardware?22:19
DrNitrohello there22:20
alonsoright now is there22:20
alonsoprobably i didnt cd22:20
alonsoi expected /dev/sr0 to be all the time there22:20
alonsook its ther22:21
alonsobut i still dont get my cd detected22:21
James147alonso: is the cd blank?22:22
alonsono22:22
alonsook it got detected22:22
alonsothat box ...22:22
alonsochecbox ... arghh22:23
alonsomy slow drive22:23
alonsook thanks22:23
James147:S22:23
* James147 isn't sure what he did there22:24
* dlp isn't, either22:24
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urgyendarn it..22:43
urgyen:-)22:43
urgyenI'm still dead in the water re flash22:43
urgyenwhat did I do?22:43
James147??22:43
urgyenunstall something I shouldn't have?22:43
urgyenkubuntu 10.0422:44
James147urgyen: you might want to describe the problem you are facing22:44
urgyenall browsers report missing plugin no matter how many times I install and uninstall22:44
urgyenor how I try to install22:44
James147urgyen: what are you insatlling?22:44
urgyenis there a troubleshoot walk through?22:44
James147urgyen: and how?22:44
urgyenI was just trying to do classic package support22:45
urgyennothing fancy22:45
urgyenI like Chrome22:45
James147urgyen: flashplugin-installer? works `fine` here22:45
urgyenya, I'll try to install again and follow logs22:45
James147urgyen: try "sudo aptitude purge flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree; sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer"22:47
urgyenthanks22:47
JuJuBee__hellslinger: I installed gtkpod and when I try to run it I select my iPod model and gtkpod shuts down...?22:51
glaucousWhats the application called which shows up when you click Alt+F2? I'd like to change the key combination22:52
James147glaucous: krunner22:52
James147glaucous: you might want to change it in the global keyboard shotcuts settings (rather then in the kmenu)22:53
James147glaucous: the shortcut is listed as "Run command" under "Run Command Interface"22:54
glaucousJames147, ah thank you! Was just about to ask where I find the shortcut :)22:54
urgyenadobe-flashplugin_10.1.53.64.orig.tar.gz22:55
urgyenFlash Plugin installed.22:55
urgyenand.. still no go :-)22:55
urgyenis there a directory I need to manually move some file to?22:56
urgyenno in konqueror firefox and chrome22:56
dlpWell...23:25
jcgshi, does anyone know how to get multiuser screen? i can't figure out how to get aclchg to do what i want23:25
dlpYou can forge header information on an IMAP server.23:25
dlpThis is slightly inconvenient.23:26
dlpI've had a bad day.23:26
James147sorry dlp... don't know much about IMAP server :( and i guess there arn't many here that do23:27
dlpWell, I do.. now.23:27
dlpI know what I needed to know, anyway.23:27
James147jcgs: multiuser screen? do you mean remote desktops? or multiuser sessions (logins)?23:27
James147dlp: ahh, sorry, thourhg tyou where asking again... glad you got an answer even if it wasent the one you wanted :(23:28
jcgsJames147: neither, the program called screen - running in multiuser mode23:28
dlpRFC350123:28
dlpOf course it'd have saved me about an hour of reading if someone had known ;)23:29
jcgsJames147: probably "get" should have read "use"23:30
dlpAs would have the experiment I used (copy a message from one IMAP server to another, see if datestamps remain intact).23:30
dlpWhich they do.23:30
jcgsJames147: or "work"23:30
James147jcgs: http://aperiodic.net/screen/multiuser  that might help23:30
dlpI guess it's fairly typical of mail servers to believe what they're told.23:30
jcgsJames147: most of that site is just the manual page installed on my system - which i've already read, and the examples on there, which are new, don't seem to work. am i doing something wrong?23:36
James147jcgs: sorry, that is am much as I know about multiuser screen :) didn't even know it was possible23:37
jcgsJames147: thanks a lot anyway,23:42
anon_yo guys23:43
anon_how do i found my sound options? like, where i can turn it up and off?23:43
anon_i've managed to delete my panel..23:43
jcgsanon_: there should be a loudspeaker icon in the system tray, you can change the volume there23:44
anon_Yeah.. i've managed to get that tray away.. Don't ask me how23:44
anon_Any idea how i can get it back?23:44
jcgsanon_: if you click on the funny symbol at the far right hand side of the taskbar, it looks a bit like half a yin-yang23:45
anon_Yeah23:46
jcgsanon_: choose add widget23:46
jcgsanon_: sorry "add widgets"23:46
anon_okay23:46
anon_and from there?23:47
jcgsanon_: there in alphabetical order, so you might need to scroll a while before you get to "system tray"23:47
anon_oh23:47
anon_okay23:47
anon_Thanks alot23:47
anon_and how can i23:48
jcgsanon_: no problem23:48
James147anon_: also if you removed your entire panel right click on the desktop > add panel23:48
anon_put the tray beside the ying yang symbol?23:48
jcgsanon_: wherever you like, i think the default is to the left of the clock23:48
James147anon_: you can drag widget around the panel when you have the panel settings window open (right click the panel > [panel options >] panel settings)23:49
anon_Okay thanks guys, now one last problem23:50
anon_I've somehow.. managed to disable when i open a window, it does not show up in the panel23:50
James147anon_: one window or all?23:50
anon_All23:50
jcgsanon_; that's the task manager widget23:50
James147anon_: ^^ yeah you probally removed the task manager widget23:50
anon_Ohh D: Thanks, i just switched over from windows so.. >_<23:51
anon_Wait wait, ONE last questioonnnnn23:51
anon_The tray isn't beside the clock23:51
anon_How do i move it there?23:51
anon_It's beside the quickAccess browser23:51
James147anon_: the kde desktop is very nicly designed... everything on the desktop/panel is a widget, so anything can be move to anywhere, or removed entirly :)23:51
jcgsanon_: click on the plasma symbol (yin-yang like thing) and then you should be able to drag it around - the cursor will change to like a dot with four arrows23:52
James147anon_: to move widget on the panel you need to open the panel settigns and drag the widget where you want it  (with the settings window open)23:52
anon_I love you all23:54
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