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micahgfta2: http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/index/~3/0xS052Xf1IU/chrome-team-sets-six-week-cadence-for-new-major-versions.ars00:20
micahgMook_sb: do you know how soon they're planning on releasing 3.6.8?00:38
Mook_sbmicahg: hmm. no, I do not. I suppose being on.. yesterday's? meeting might have helped00:39
micahgMook_sb: there seems to be a single fix for it, just tagged today00:39
Mook_sblooking at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Planning/2010-07-21, probably near blackhat?00:40
micahgMook_sb: hmmm...I saw that, but wouldn't that usually carry all the fixes that we have now on the branch?00:41
Mook_sbmicahg: I have no idea.00:41
micahgMook_sb: ok00:41
Mook_sbhmm, reading the #planning logs it sounds like it may be related to 580874? not sure though, I have no access to any of those things (which is why I feel so free speculating ;) )00:41
micahgprivate :)00:43
micahgMook_sb: is planning a private channel, or would I be allowed in?00:48
Mook_sbmicahg: it's on irc.mozilla.org, public (otherwise I wouldn't have been able to get in there)00:49
Mook_sbI think you might be confused - I don't have any special privileges :)00:49
micahgMook_sb: oh, yeah, I thought you might :)00:49
micahgjdstrand: ping01:02
gavinit's bug 575836, fwiw01:03
ubot2`Launchpad bug 575836 in ubuntu "Can not connect to wireless networks after upgrade to 10.04 (affects: 2) (heat: 52)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57583601:03
gavinregression from the fix from mozilla bug 57298501:03
ubot2`gavin: Error: Error getting Mozilla bug #572985: NotPermitted01:03
micahggavin: next time I'll just ping you :)01:04
gavinfeel free, I'm glad to help01:04
micahggavin: ok, well, we pushed 3.6.7 to everyone now, so I guess we'll have to rush this out as well01:05
gavinyeah, probably a good idea01:05
gavinwe're not exactly thrilled about it either! :(01:05
micahggavin: you're sure that LP bug is the onethat's fixed01:06
gavinespecially with blackhat just around the door01:06
gavinno, that's a mozilla bug #01:06
micahggavin: yeah, I was hoping for a little breathing room01:06
gavinI just forgot to add "mozilla"01:06
micahggavin: ah, that makes mroe sense :)01:06
micahganother private bug :)01:06
gavinyou have s-g members, right?01:06
gavinasac?01:07
micahggavin: I think asac is the only one01:07
gavinis he not around?01:07
micahggavin: at a sprint ATM01:07
micahggavin: what's the likelyhood of a build2?01:08
gavinrelatively unlikely, given that it's only the one patch and that it's been on trunk for a bit01:08
gavinare you backporting patches manually?01:09
micahggavin: no, we're using the complete release01:09
gavinI can CC you on the bug, if that helps01:09
micahggavin: we finally have all releases on FF 3.6 :)01:10
micahggavin: nah, that's ok01:10
gavingood to hear!01:10
gavinso you pull our release tags and build yourself?01:10
micahggavin: yep, after applying nobinonly01:10
gavincool01:10
micahggavin: I'll spin the tarballs a little later and once I consult w/chrisccoulson in about 7 hrs I'll upload to the devel release01:11
micahgjdstrand: ping re mozilla update02:26
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micahggavin: the bug was a regression of something in 3.6.7, right?03:52
gavinmicahg: yes04:54
micahggavin: k, thanks04:57
jdstrandmicahg: yes?07:24
micahgjdstrand: oh, hi, there was a regression in 3.6.7 and 3.6.8 is being prepared, I was wondering if I should use the same USN and -207:24
jdstrandmicahg: it is just the one fix?07:24
micahgjdstrand: yes07:25
micahgjdstrand: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.2/rev/fd971f28dfd107:25
jdstrandmicahg: is this security relevant, or functionality?07:26
micahgjdstrand: topcrash07:26
jdstrandmicahg: -207:27
micahgjdstrand: thanks, I don't know if they'll release today or over the weekend, so I figured I'd have the builds ready for chrisccoulson so that either way we could roll it out07:27
jdstrandmicahg: ok. I won't be able to do much testing cause I'll be on holiday/blackhat, so let me know when you are ready and I will publish07:28
micahgjdstrand: ok, when is that?07:28
jdstrandholiday - sat - tue, bh wed - mon07:29
jdstrand(well, bh/defcon)07:29
micahgjdstrand: ok, is mdeslaur available so I don'07:29
micahgt have to bother you on holiday?07:29
jdstrandmicahg: well, he could, but our process doesn't work too well with that yet07:31
micahgjdstrand: ok, I guess we'll ping you when ready then, thanks07:31
jdstrandk07:31
micahgjdstrand: I'm assuming I should use the Hardy/Lucid USN or for Jaunty/Karmic use their USN07:33
jdstrandmicahg: actually, we should split it. hardy/lucid should get 957-2 and jaunty and karmic need 930-507:34
micahgjdstrand: got it, thanks07:34
jdstrandmicahg: wait07:34
jdstrandmicahg: 930-607:34
micahgjdstrand: k07:35
micahgjdstrand: I'm assuming xulrunner is sharing the USN?07:37
jdstrandmicahg: yes07:38
micahgjdstrand: k07:38
micahgjdstrand: are you at the sprint?>08:02
micahghi chrisccoulson08:10
chrisccoulsonhi micahg08:10
micahgchrisccoulson: there's a crash regression in FF 3.6.7 and 3.6.8 is being prepared08:11
chrisccoulsonmicahg, nice!08:11
chrisccoulsonthanks08:11
micahgchrisccoulson: I have the xulrunner branches updated and I'm ready to push xulrunner to maverick08:11
chrisccoulsoncool, thanks08:11
micahgchrisccoulson: I wasn't sure what you wanted to do with firefox.head, are all those changes ready for maverick as well?08:11
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i'm not entirely sure yet. i'll have a look at it shortly08:12
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I couldn't prepare the updates for firefox branches for hardy, jaunty, karmic because you have local changes of the latest releases08:12
chrisccoulsonoh, i've not pushed them yet?08:12
micahgchrisccoulson: nope08:12
chrisccoulsoni'll fix that too then08:13
micahgchrisccoulson: should I push up xulrunner then and you'll worry about Firefox?08:13
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, feel free08:13
micahgchrisccoulson: k, also USN for Hardy/Lucid is USN-957-2, Jaunty/Karmic USN-930-608:13
micahgchrisccoulson: thanks, uploading now, will go to sleep after it's done, I'll rebuild gjs in the morning08:17
chrisccoulsonthanks08:17
micahgchrisccoulson: monday you'll be back in UK?08:18
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, i fly back tomorrow08:20
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I guess I'm lucky that you're on 2 hrs earlier than normal :)08:20
chrisccoulsonit should only be 1 hour, but i've been starting earlier than normal too ;)08:21
micahgchrisccoulson: right :)08:21
* micahg needs to start doing uploads on a server with more upstream BW08:21
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ftadoh! http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ubuntu-mozilla-daily--ppa.html11:36
ftai guess i need a link and an icon for Chroot problems11:37
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jdstrandchrisccoulson: so, what do you think about removing sqlite3 from the ppa? iirc, it was for some firefox build but we now have it embedded13:30
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - yeah, we should remove that13:30
* jdstrand goes to do that13:30
jdstrandI've been wanting to get rid of that for ages ;)13:30
jdstrandchrisccoulson: btw, not sure you noticed, but the ppa is really rather clean atm :)13:31
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, yeah, i just noticed that. thanks!13:32
jdstrandsure!13:32
jdstrandchrisccoulson: there were a couple of things in there (like hardy/apturl) that I wasn't so sure about, so I left them13:33
jdstrandchrisccoulson: btw, is seamonkey ok to go?13:33
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, yeah, 2.0.6 is ready to go for lucid13:33
jdstrandchrisccoulson: 2.0.5 is still there for the others. what about those?13:34
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, i need to update those to 2.0.6 at some point, and we can push them if i ever get round to testing them13:34
chrisccoulsonbut nobody has done any testing on them yet13:34
jdstrandk13:35
jdstrandI'll push seamonkey13:35
jdstrandon lucid13:35
chrisccoulsonthanks13:37
jdstrandchrisccoulson: seamonkey/lucid is published13:37
chrisccoulsonawesome, thanks!13:37
jdstranduniverse is *way* easier ;)13:38
gnomefreakdo we still need *-gnome-support packages?13:38
chrisccoulsonheh, i wish it was as easy for chromium too ;)13:38
chrisccoulsongnomefreak, yes, they pull in the gnome dependencies if you don't already have them13:38
gnomefreakok because autoremove wants to remove them (under gnome)13:39
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, once i have the mozilla crash reporter working, we'll probably need a corresponding change in the apparmor profile13:39
chrisccoulsonmeh, X crashed13:41
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - i get X crashing quite often when i press enter the first time after booting. can i blame the people in the foundations room for that? ;)13:42
gnomefreakim guessing xul193 is no longer needed13:42
jdstrandwell, I don't think you can blame the security team :)13:42
chrisccoulsongnomefreak, yeah13:42
jdstrandchrisccoulson: ack re apparmor13:43
gnomefreakthanks i thought 3.6.* needed it13:43
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, i don't have it working just yet (firefox doesn't exec the crashreporter when i send it kill -11, but the upstream build works ok)13:43
jdstrandchrisccoulson: well, testing with apparmor is pretty easy. aa is not enabled by default. to enable, use 'sudo aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox'13:44
jdstrandchrisccoulson: then look in dmesg/kern.log13:44
jdstrandchrisccoulson: you can see DebuggingApparmor in the wiki too. please run any apparmor changes by me or someone from the security team13:45
dholbachhi guys13:52
dholbachis anybody working on fixing thunderbird in maverick? :)13:52
chrisccoulsonok, i think i've half figured out why the crash reporter doesn't work, we need Enabled=1 in the application.ini14:01
chrisccoulsonbut that should happen automatically at build time :/14:02
chrisccoulsondholbach, what's wrong with TB? we'll be upgrading to 3.1.1 soon ;)14:02
dholbachchrisccoulson: crashing14:07
dholbachthe whole time14:08
dholbachI just need to start writing an email14:08
chrisccoulsondholbach, oh, that's not too good. do you get a stacktrace?14:08
dholbachI just filed a bug14:08
dholbachhang on14:08
dholbach60913114:09
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - oh, the apparmor profile already lets firefox start the crash reporter (presumably because it is shipped in /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.8)14:45
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jdstrandchrisccoulson: hey-- have you tested the new ff in the ppa yet? I did hardy ff and it seemed fine. I did not test hardy/xul though16:12
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - not yet16:12
chrisccoulsonhas it been released by mozilla yet?16:12
jdstrandchrisccoulson: well, the xul builds got behind something, so they won't be fully built tonight it looks like16:12
jdstrandor at least not til late16:13
* jdstrand goes and checks16:13
jdstrandchrisccoulson: not released yet16:13
chrisccoulsoncool, that's ok16:13
chrisccoulsonit will probably be after we've finished for the day ;)16:14
micahgchrisccoulson: anything I need to worry about over the weekend except for trying to get TB3.1 ready for PPA?16:42
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i don't think so16:42
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure we'll get round to publishing 3.6.8 today (mozilla still haven't released it and the xulrunner builds have got stuck behind other things)16:42
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I figured that if we at least get them up today, people can test over the weekend and we can release MOnday16:43
chrisccoulsoni've got 3.6.8 in maverick now with the crashreporter on16:43
micahgchrisccoulson: how is it?16:43
chrisccoulsonyeah, it's working now, although it didn't work initially16:43
micahgBTW, I think dholbach's TB crash is a GTK crash16:44
chrisccoulsonmicahg - it's caused by the app-menu16:46
micahgchrisccoulson: ah, do you have a dupe bug?16:47
chrisccoulsonwe need to blacklist thunderbird (we already blacklisted firefox because of the same crash)16:47
micahgchrisccoulson: BTW, I think apport already has blacklisted thunderbird and firefox on Maverick16:50
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chrisccoulsonmicahg - it shouldn't be. we'd need to ship a blacklist file for that in /etc/blacklist.d16:51
chrisccoulsonapport won't get firefox crashes now as the mozilla crash handler doesn't re-raise the signal16:51
* micahg recalls seeing something, but it's not in the changelog16:52
micahghttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/1.14.1-0ubuntu416:53
chrisccoulsonmicahg - that's just for the retracer16:54
micahgchrisccoulson: ok :)16:54
fishorhallo all, i currently trying to find out why firefox-4.0 use too match CPU (abou 80% on Core 2 Duo E8400  @ 3.00GHz) by playing  webm videos. I use kernel/perf tools... i getting 88% usage by  libxul.so.  xulrunner-2.0-dbg is installed, but i still can't get any symbols in debug. Please can some body point my, what i missing16:59
micahgfishor: You need other symbols as well, what release are you on?17:00
fishormicahg: maverick17:00
micahgchrisccoulson: ^^ does this also need a blacklist for app-menu?17:00
fishorare there any ctrick to install all xulrunner dbg pack per one shoot?17:06
micahgfishor: well, you need the firefox-4.0-dbg as well, plus the GTK debug libs, and maybe a few others depending on the stacktrace17:11
fishorhmm... i have these, but still no result17:21
fishormicahg: may be it will be better to just compile it by my self17:22
micahgfishor: what will that help?17:22
fishormicahg: jast include debug symbols dircet into binary17:36
micahgfishor: do you have the glib debug symbols, it seems to be  a problem with the app-menu in maverick17:40
fishormicahg: i have libglib2.0-0-dbg17:43
fishordo i need libglib2.0-0-refdbg17:43
micahgfishor: if you use apport-retrace locally it'll install all you need17:44
micahgfishor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingWithApportRetrace17:44
fishormicahg: apport-retrace -o trash _usr_lib_firefox-4.0b3pre_firefox-4.0.1000.crash17:58
fishorreport file does not contain one of the required fields: CoreDump Package ExecutablePath17:58
micahgfishor: ah, I'd say try to reproduce then18:05
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fishorok, i found the problem with perf19:41
fishorit is know perf bug, so there is workasound ro make it see debugsymbols19:41
fishorand now i see why firefox use so mach CPU time19:42
fishorit use do not optimised, buildin version of vp8decoder19:43
fishornow is my question: is it possible to build xulrunner with dynlinced libvpx019:44
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=== micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.7 in Hardy-Lucid / 3.6.8 in Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 Coming Soon to Maverick/PPA | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW | Next Meeting: TBD
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