| micahg | fta2: http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/index/~3/0xS052Xf1IU/chrome-team-sets-six-week-cadence-for-new-major-versions.ars | 00:20 |
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| micahg | Mook_sb: do you know how soon they're planning on releasing 3.6.8? | 00:38 |
| Mook_sb | micahg: hmm. no, I do not. I suppose being on.. yesterday's? meeting might have helped | 00:39 |
| micahg | Mook_sb: there seems to be a single fix for it, just tagged today | 00:39 |
| Mook_sb | looking at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Planning/2010-07-21, probably near blackhat? | 00:40 |
| micahg | Mook_sb: hmmm...I saw that, but wouldn't that usually carry all the fixes that we have now on the branch? | 00:41 |
| Mook_sb | micahg: I have no idea. | 00:41 |
| micahg | Mook_sb: ok | 00:41 |
| Mook_sb | hmm, reading the #planning logs it sounds like it may be related to 580874? not sure though, I have no access to any of those things (which is why I feel so free speculating ;) ) | 00:41 |
| micahg | private :) | 00:43 |
| micahg | Mook_sb: is planning a private channel, or would I be allowed in? | 00:48 |
| Mook_sb | micahg: it's on irc.mozilla.org, public (otherwise I wouldn't have been able to get in there) | 00:49 |
| Mook_sb | I think you might be confused - I don't have any special privileges :) | 00:49 |
| micahg | Mook_sb: oh, yeah, I thought you might :) | 00:49 |
| micahg | jdstrand: ping | 01:02 |
| gavin | it's bug 575836, fwiw | 01:03 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 575836 in ubuntu "Can not connect to wireless networks after upgrade to 10.04 (affects: 2) (heat: 52)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575836 | 01:03 |
| gavin | regression from the fix from mozilla bug 572985 | 01:03 |
| ubot2` | gavin: Error: Error getting Mozilla bug #572985: NotPermitted | 01:03 |
| micahg | gavin: next time I'll just ping you :) | 01:04 |
| gavin | feel free, I'm glad to help | 01:04 |
| micahg | gavin: ok, well, we pushed 3.6.7 to everyone now, so I guess we'll have to rush this out as well | 01:05 |
| gavin | yeah, probably a good idea | 01:05 |
| gavin | we're not exactly thrilled about it either! :( | 01:05 |
| micahg | gavin: you're sure that LP bug is the onethat's fixed | 01:06 |
| gavin | especially with blackhat just around the door | 01:06 |
| gavin | no, that's a mozilla bug # | 01:06 |
| micahg | gavin: yeah, I was hoping for a little breathing room | 01:06 |
| gavin | I just forgot to add "mozilla" | 01:06 |
| micahg | gavin: ah, that makes mroe sense :) | 01:06 |
| micahg | another private bug :) | 01:06 |
| gavin | you have s-g members, right? | 01:06 |
| gavin | asac? | 01:07 |
| micahg | gavin: I think asac is the only one | 01:07 |
| gavin | is he not around? | 01:07 |
| micahg | gavin: at a sprint ATM | 01:07 |
| micahg | gavin: what's the likelyhood of a build2? | 01:08 |
| gavin | relatively unlikely, given that it's only the one patch and that it's been on trunk for a bit | 01:08 |
| gavin | are you backporting patches manually? | 01:09 |
| micahg | gavin: no, we're using the complete release | 01:09 |
| gavin | I can CC you on the bug, if that helps | 01:09 |
| micahg | gavin: we finally have all releases on FF 3.6 :) | 01:10 |
| micahg | gavin: nah, that's ok | 01:10 |
| gavin | good to hear! | 01:10 |
| gavin | so you pull our release tags and build yourself? | 01:10 |
| micahg | gavin: yep, after applying nobinonly | 01:10 |
| gavin | cool | 01:10 |
| micahg | gavin: I'll spin the tarballs a little later and once I consult w/chrisccoulson in about 7 hrs I'll upload to the devel release | 01:11 |
| micahg | jdstrand: ping re mozilla update | 02:26 |
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| micahg | gavin: the bug was a regression of something in 3.6.7, right? | 03:52 |
| gavin | micahg: yes | 04:54 |
| micahg | gavin: k, thanks | 04:57 |
| jdstrand | micahg: yes? | 07:24 |
| micahg | jdstrand: oh, hi, there was a regression in 3.6.7 and 3.6.8 is being prepared, I was wondering if I should use the same USN and -2 | 07:24 |
| jdstrand | micahg: it is just the one fix? | 07:24 |
| micahg | jdstrand: yes | 07:25 |
| micahg | jdstrand: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.2/rev/fd971f28dfd1 | 07:25 |
| jdstrand | micahg: is this security relevant, or functionality? | 07:26 |
| micahg | jdstrand: topcrash | 07:26 |
| jdstrand | micahg: -2 | 07:27 |
| micahg | jdstrand: thanks, I don't know if they'll release today or over the weekend, so I figured I'd have the builds ready for chrisccoulson so that either way we could roll it out | 07:27 |
| jdstrand | micahg: ok. I won't be able to do much testing cause I'll be on holiday/blackhat, so let me know when you are ready and I will publish | 07:28 |
| micahg | jdstrand: ok, when is that? | 07:28 |
| jdstrand | holiday - sat - tue, bh wed - mon | 07:29 |
| jdstrand | (well, bh/defcon) | 07:29 |
| micahg | jdstrand: ok, is mdeslaur available so I don' | 07:29 |
| micahg | t have to bother you on holiday? | 07:29 |
| jdstrand | micahg: well, he could, but our process doesn't work too well with that yet | 07:31 |
| micahg | jdstrand: ok, I guess we'll ping you when ready then, thanks | 07:31 |
| jdstrand | k | 07:31 |
| micahg | jdstrand: I'm assuming I should use the Hardy/Lucid USN or for Jaunty/Karmic use their USN | 07:33 |
| jdstrand | micahg: actually, we should split it. hardy/lucid should get 957-2 and jaunty and karmic need 930-5 | 07:34 |
| micahg | jdstrand: got it, thanks | 07:34 |
| jdstrand | micahg: wait | 07:34 |
| jdstrand | micahg: 930-6 | 07:34 |
| micahg | jdstrand: k | 07:35 |
| micahg | jdstrand: I'm assuming xulrunner is sharing the USN? | 07:37 |
| jdstrand | micahg: yes | 07:38 |
| micahg | jdstrand: k | 07:38 |
| micahg | jdstrand: are you at the sprint?> | 08:02 |
| micahg | hi chrisccoulson | 08:10 |
| chrisccoulson | hi micahg | 08:10 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: there's a crash regression in FF 3.6.7 and 3.6.8 is being prepared | 08:11 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, nice! | 08:11 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 08:11 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I have the xulrunner branches updated and I'm ready to push xulrunner to maverick | 08:11 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, thanks | 08:11 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I wasn't sure what you wanted to do with firefox.head, are all those changes ready for maverick as well? | 08:11 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i'm not entirely sure yet. i'll have a look at it shortly | 08:12 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, I couldn't prepare the updates for firefox branches for hardy, jaunty, karmic because you have local changes of the latest releases | 08:12 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i've not pushed them yet? | 08:12 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: nope | 08:12 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll fix that too then | 08:13 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: should I push up xulrunner then and you'll worry about Firefox? | 08:13 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, feel free | 08:13 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, also USN for Hardy/Lucid is USN-957-2, Jaunty/Karmic USN-930-6 | 08:13 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: thanks, uploading now, will go to sleep after it's done, I'll rebuild gjs in the morning | 08:17 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 08:17 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: monday you'll be back in UK? | 08:18 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, i fly back tomorrow | 08:20 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, I guess I'm lucky that you're on 2 hrs earlier than normal :) | 08:20 |
| chrisccoulson | it should only be 1 hour, but i've been starting earlier than normal too ;) | 08:21 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: right :) | 08:21 |
| * micahg needs to start doing uploads on a server with more upstream BW | 08:21 | |
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| fta | doh! http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ubuntu-mozilla-daily--ppa.html | 11:36 |
| fta | i guess i need a link and an icon for Chroot problems | 11:37 |
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| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: so, what do you think about removing sqlite3 from the ppa? iirc, it was for some firefox build but we now have it embedded | 13:30 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - yeah, we should remove that | 13:30 |
| * jdstrand goes to do that | 13:30 | |
| jdstrand | I've been wanting to get rid of that for ages ;) | 13:30 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: btw, not sure you noticed, but the ppa is really rather clean atm :) | 13:31 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, i just noticed that. thanks! | 13:32 |
| jdstrand | sure! | 13:32 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: there were a couple of things in there (like hardy/apturl) that I wasn't so sure about, so I left them | 13:33 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: btw, is seamonkey ok to go? | 13:33 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, 2.0.6 is ready to go for lucid | 13:33 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: 2.0.5 is still there for the others. what about those? | 13:34 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, i need to update those to 2.0.6 at some point, and we can push them if i ever get round to testing them | 13:34 |
| chrisccoulson | but nobody has done any testing on them yet | 13:34 |
| jdstrand | k | 13:35 |
| jdstrand | I'll push seamonkey | 13:35 |
| jdstrand | on lucid | 13:35 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 13:37 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: seamonkey/lucid is published | 13:37 |
| chrisccoulson | awesome, thanks! | 13:37 |
| jdstrand | universe is *way* easier ;) | 13:38 |
| gnomefreak | do we still need *-gnome-support packages? | 13:38 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, i wish it was as easy for chromium too ;) | 13:38 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, yes, they pull in the gnome dependencies if you don't already have them | 13:38 |
| gnomefreak | ok because autoremove wants to remove them (under gnome) | 13:39 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, once i have the mozilla crash reporter working, we'll probably need a corresponding change in the apparmor profile | 13:39 |
| chrisccoulson | meh, X crashed | 13:41 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - i get X crashing quite often when i press enter the first time after booting. can i blame the people in the foundations room for that? ;) | 13:42 |
| gnomefreak | im guessing xul193 is no longer needed | 13:42 |
| jdstrand | well, I don't think you can blame the security team :) | 13:42 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, yeah | 13:42 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: ack re apparmor | 13:43 |
| gnomefreak | thanks i thought 3.6.* needed it | 13:43 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, i don't have it working just yet (firefox doesn't exec the crashreporter when i send it kill -11, but the upstream build works ok) | 13:43 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: well, testing with apparmor is pretty easy. aa is not enabled by default. to enable, use 'sudo aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox' | 13:44 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: then look in dmesg/kern.log | 13:44 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: you can see DebuggingApparmor in the wiki too. please run any apparmor changes by me or someone from the security team | 13:45 |
| dholbach | hi guys | 13:52 |
| dholbach | is anybody working on fixing thunderbird in maverick? :) | 13:52 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, i think i've half figured out why the crash reporter doesn't work, we need Enabled=1 in the application.ini | 14:01 |
| chrisccoulson | but that should happen automatically at build time :/ | 14:02 |
| chrisccoulson | dholbach, what's wrong with TB? we'll be upgrading to 3.1.1 soon ;) | 14:02 |
| dholbach | chrisccoulson: crashing | 14:07 |
| dholbach | the whole time | 14:08 |
| dholbach | I just need to start writing an email | 14:08 |
| chrisccoulson | dholbach, oh, that's not too good. do you get a stacktrace? | 14:08 |
| dholbach | I just filed a bug | 14:08 |
| dholbach | hang on | 14:08 |
| dholbach | 609131 | 14:09 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - oh, the apparmor profile already lets firefox start the crash reporter (presumably because it is shipped in /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.8) | 14:45 |
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| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: hey-- have you tested the new ff in the ppa yet? I did hardy ff and it seemed fine. I did not test hardy/xul though | 16:12 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - not yet | 16:12 |
| chrisccoulson | has it been released by mozilla yet? | 16:12 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: well, the xul builds got behind something, so they won't be fully built tonight it looks like | 16:12 |
| jdstrand | or at least not til late | 16:13 |
| * jdstrand goes and checks | 16:13 | |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: not released yet | 16:13 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, that's ok | 16:13 |
| chrisccoulson | it will probably be after we've finished for the day ;) | 16:14 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: anything I need to worry about over the weekend except for trying to get TB3.1 ready for PPA? | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i don't think so | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure we'll get round to publishing 3.6.8 today (mozilla still haven't released it and the xulrunner builds have got stuck behind other things) | 16:42 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, I figured that if we at least get them up today, people can test over the weekend and we can release MOnday | 16:43 |
| chrisccoulson | i've got 3.6.8 in maverick now with the crashreporter on | 16:43 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: how is it? | 16:43 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it's working now, although it didn't work initially | 16:43 |
| micahg | BTW, I think dholbach's TB crash is a GTK crash | 16:44 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - it's caused by the app-menu | 16:46 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ah, do you have a dupe bug? | 16:47 |
| chrisccoulson | we need to blacklist thunderbird (we already blacklisted firefox because of the same crash) | 16:47 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, I think apport already has blacklisted thunderbird and firefox on Maverick | 16:50 |
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| chrisccoulson | micahg - it shouldn't be. we'd need to ship a blacklist file for that in /etc/blacklist.d | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | apport won't get firefox crashes now as the mozilla crash handler doesn't re-raise the signal | 16:51 |
| * micahg recalls seeing something, but it's not in the changelog | 16:52 | |
| micahg | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/1.14.1-0ubuntu4 | 16:53 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - that's just for the retracer | 16:54 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ok :) | 16:54 |
| fishor | hallo all, i currently trying to find out why firefox-4.0 use too match CPU (abou 80% on Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz) by playing webm videos. I use kernel/perf tools... i getting 88% usage by libxul.so. xulrunner-2.0-dbg is installed, but i still can't get any symbols in debug. Please can some body point my, what i missing | 16:59 |
| micahg | fishor: You need other symbols as well, what release are you on? | 17:00 |
| fishor | micahg: maverick | 17:00 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ^^ does this also need a blacklist for app-menu? | 17:00 |
| fishor | are there any ctrick to install all xulrunner dbg pack per one shoot? | 17:06 |
| micahg | fishor: well, you need the firefox-4.0-dbg as well, plus the GTK debug libs, and maybe a few others depending on the stacktrace | 17:11 |
| fishor | hmm... i have these, but still no result | 17:21 |
| fishor | micahg: may be it will be better to just compile it by my self | 17:22 |
| micahg | fishor: what will that help? | 17:22 |
| fishor | micahg: jast include debug symbols dircet into binary | 17:36 |
| micahg | fishor: do you have the glib debug symbols, it seems to be a problem with the app-menu in maverick | 17:40 |
| fishor | micahg: i have libglib2.0-0-dbg | 17:43 |
| fishor | do i need libglib2.0-0-refdbg | 17:43 |
| micahg | fishor: if you use apport-retrace locally it'll install all you need | 17:44 |
| micahg | fishor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingWithApportRetrace | 17:44 |
| fishor | micahg: apport-retrace -o trash _usr_lib_firefox-4.0b3pre_firefox-4.0.1000.crash | 17:58 |
| fishor | report file does not contain one of the required fields: CoreDump Package ExecutablePath | 17:58 |
| micahg | fishor: ah, I'd say try to reproduce then | 18:05 |
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| fishor | ok, i found the problem with perf | 19:41 |
| fishor | it is know perf bug, so there is workasound ro make it see debugsymbols | 19:41 |
| fishor | and now i see why firefox use so mach CPU time | 19:42 |
| fishor | it use do not optimised, buildin version of vp8decoder | 19:43 |
| fishor | now is my question: is it possible to build xulrunner with dynlinced libvpx0 | 19:44 |
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| === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.7 in Hardy-Lucid / 3.6.8 in Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 Coming Soon to Maverick/PPA | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW | Next Meeting: TBD | ||
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