/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/07/23/#ubuntu-sugarteam.txt

manusheelrgs_ : Hi Raul. How have you been?00:00
rgs_manusheel: hey, how are you?00:00
manusheelrgs_ : Very well, thank you.00:01
dfarningvery nice how about tomorrow he and luke get togerther and figure out what needs to get done to package surf.  They you can assign someone to package it.00:01
manusheelHow about you?00:01
manusheeldfarning: Sure. Neat idea.00:02
manusheelrgs_ : One question for you.00:02
manusheelrgs_ : Are we documenting the code architecture and shift from gecko to pywebkit somewhere at the wiki?00:03
rgs_manusheel: very well too00:03
rgs_manusheel: hmm.. not exactly, we could resort to git's log history00:03
manusheelrgs_ : Glad to hear.00:03
dfarningmanusheel, I think rgs_ can coordinate with lfaraone in a couple of hours... I forgot the lfaraone was coming on soon.00:05
dfarningmanusheelI think all they need to do is add tags to the git repo and it will work.00:05
manusheel_dfarning: Ok, great.00:05
manusheel_dfarning: Sure. Browse is indeed a very important activity.00:06
manusheel_dfarning: Kindly send me a note once the activity is ready for packaging. Will assign it as soon as possible. Would like to have maximum interaction between Luke and Jonas on packaging of activities at DebConf.00:07
manusheel_dfarning: DebConf is going to be pretty important for us.00:08
dfarningmanusheel_, ok and I will be gone tomorrow morning to vist a deployment.00:09
dfarningmanusheel_,  Is everybody set with tasks?00:10
manusheel_dfarning: Yes.00:10
manusheel_We have the tasks ready for the next 3 days :-)00:10
dfarningmanusheel_, ok.00:10
dfarningmanusheel_, how about working with collabora?  have you talked to Robert yet.00:11
dfarningmanusheel_, If we are going to bother fixing bug in telepathy we might want to update sugar to the latest version of telepathy.00:12
dfarningmanusheel_, this might be something to assign to a develop who will work on the network/collaoration stack and see it Robert will assign a mentor.00:13
dfarningmanusheel having trouble with you internet?00:14
dfarningyour/your/00:14
manusheeldfarning: Could you please post the last couple of messages again.00:14
dfarningmanusheel, eady for the next 3 days :-)00:15
dfarning<dfarning> manusheel_, ok.00:15
dfarning manusheel_, how about working with collabora?  have you talked to Robert yet.00:15
dfarning manusheel_, If we are going to bother fixing bug in telepathy we might want to update sugar to the latest version of telepathy.00:15
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dfarning<dfarning> manusheel_, this might be something to assign to a develop who will work on the network/collaoration stack and see it Robert will assign a mentor.00:15
dfarningmanusheel, should I send robert an email?00:15
manusheel_dfarning: My apologies. The internet connection breaks a bit after 4:45 am.00:16
manusheel_dfarning: Sure.00:16
manusheel_Robert McQueen, right?00:16
dfarningmanusheel manusheel_ yes, I will cc you.00:16
manusheel_dfarning: Thanks David.00:16
manusheel_dfarning: Our developers have gone through the documentation provided by you.00:17
dfarningmanusheel did they walk through to code to set up a connection?00:18
manusheel__dfarning: Was very well structured.00:19
dfarningmanusheel_great.  the final step will be looking at how the activites actually use telepath for collobration.00:20
dfarningmanusheel_should I create an induction for that?00:21
* lfaraone waves.02:10
lucianlfaraone: i have a tarball for you http://people.sugarlabs.org/lucian/Surf-115.tar.bz213:29
dfarningbernie, ping.  There was not room in the car.  So I stayed back to prepare for this afternoon.14:35
berniedfarning: d'oh!14:36
berniedfarning: are you starting to see what I mean for disorganization?14:36
berniedfarning: I'll stay home in the morning... do you need anything?14:37
berniedfarning: is tch there at least?14:37
dfarningbernie, tch went with them14:39
dfarningbernie, I have everything I need:)  Laptop + wireless + coffee = office14:40
lfaraoneManusheel: ping. Do you mind if I reply to Ankur's question re "Redundant Copying File" to the list?14:42
Manusheellfaraone: Sure.14:43
ManusheelPlease go ahead.14:43
lfaraoneManusheel: something I think that might do well to establish crediblity and make the SEETA folk seem more human were if they were to go through reviews etc posted to the list and reply *to the list* when they have questions. While it might make the process take slightly longer, we'll benefit from documenting in a very easily retrievable format what questions etc we have.14:45
Manusheellfaraone: +1. A very important idea indeed. However, it requires change management and engagement at different levels of conversation. Will try my best to help the team arrive at this process systematically.14:48
Manusheellfaraone: Appreciate your feedback.14:48
Manusheellfaraone: Overtime, the list serv would become a good content repository too. +1.14:52
Manusheellfaraone: Leaving for a content meeting. Will talk to you soon.14:54
ManusheelThank you.14:54
kandarpklfaraone: good morning15:12
lfaraonemorning kandarpk15:12
kandarpklfaraone: I was trying Jonas' suggestion to update read15:28
lfaraonekandarpk: okay.15:28
kandarpkbut the following results15:28
kandarpkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/468025/15:28
kandarpklfaraone: do I need to run 'git merge v87'  first ?15:29
kandarpk*which would result in conflicts15:29
lfaraonekandarpk: try "git checkout -b reset-upstream-to-v87 v87"15:31
lfaraonehe may have gotten it backwards15:31
kandarpklfaraone: Ok15:31
kandarpklfaraone: it worked :)15:33
lfaraonekandarpk: please reply to his post stating that you tried it his way it didn't work, but upon checking man git-commit you tried swapping the params.15:34
kandarpklfaraone: :)15:34
lfaraonelucian: thanks.15:35
lucianlfaraone: as you can see, it's rebranded15:35
dipankarhi lfaraone15:38
dipankarhi kandarpk15:38
kandarpkhi dipankar15:38
kandarpkhow are you ?15:39
dipankarI am fine. sorry I couldn't make it soon, power cut problem.15:39
dipankarkandarpk, did you get a chance to run the packages?15:40
kandarpkdipankar: oh sorry, got involved into packaging read15:40
kandarpkdipankar: will run them just now15:41
kandarpkdipankar: will take just 5min15:41
dipankarkandarpk, no problem. :) Thanks15:41
dfarninglfaraone, how are things going?15:50
lfaraonedfarning: good, currently reviewing neeraj's uploads for Ubuntu.15:50
kandarp_dfarning: greetings.15:52
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dfarningkandarpk, good morning.15:53
dfarninglfaraone, do you have what you need to package surf.15:54
lfaraonedfarning: from lucian , yes.15:54
kandarpkdipankar: s-log-a fails to start in sugar-session-0.8415:55
dipankarkandarpk, rest all are working?15:56
dipankardfarning, lfaraone : good morning :)15:56
dfarninglfaraone, great. due to dependancy issues surf will not run on fedora 11 which is what the new xo releases will be running.15:56
kandarpkdipankar: checking flipsticks15:56
dipankarok15:56
dfarningdipankar, good morning.15:56
dipankar_dfarning, how are you? How's work coming along at Paraguay?16:00
dfarningvery well16:01
=== dipankar_ is now known as dipankar
dipankardfarning, The code for presence service looks a bit tough :(16:02
dipankarand long too :(16:02
dfarningdipankar, +1 it is a core piece of code.16:03
dfarningdipankar, I talked to colobra last night about providing a mentor for you guys.  I have not heard back yet.16:04
dipankardfarning, thats sad. I hope they reply something16:04
dipankarand soon too16:04
kandarpkdipankar: s-flipsticks-a fails to start in any of the three16:05
dipankarkandarpk, :(16:05
kandarpkdipankar: nothing in flipsticks-log file16:06
dipankarkandarpk, can you please paste the shell.log?16:06
kandarpkdipankar: shell.log here:16:06
kandarpkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/468039/16:06
dipankarthanks16:06
* dipankar is going through the log.16:06
lfaraonelucian: will surf work in Sugar 0.84? 0.86?16:08
lucianlfaraone: it shouldn't depend on sugar's version, but i've only tested it on 0.8816:09
lucianlfaraone: requirements are webkitgtk 1.1.7+ and pywebktigtk 1.1.6+16:09
lfaraonelucian: thanks.16:22
lucianlfaraone: i hope it doesn't crash or something :)16:22
* ankur says hello16:30
* lfaraone waves.16:30
ankurlfaraone, hi16:31
dipankarlfaraone, need your help.16:32
ankurme too :)16:32
lfaraonedipankar: dimmi.16:32
dipankarlfaraone, here is the error for flipsticks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/468039/16:32
dipankarlfaraone, like I mentioned a couple of weeks back.16:33
dipankar*I found the same log on Ubuntu too16:33
ankurlfaraone,  i tried removing redundant COPYING using the example you mentioned in your email but i am still getting problem in that , can you guide on that ?16:34
lfaraoneankur: well, you'd have to tell me what you've tried first ;)16:34
ankuri will paste log and my attempt in a min. btw what does dimmi means ?16:35
dipankarlfaraone, +1 on above.16:35
ankurhere is the lintina warning :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/468054/16:35
ankur*lintian16:36
lfaraoneankur: "tell me" in Italian.16:36
ankurhere is attempt 1 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/468056/16:37
ankurand here is attempt 2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/468058/16:37
ankuri tried using the different paths but i am missing out on some concepts here . so needs your guidance :)16:38
dipankarlfaraone, I am also getting this error even after adding the remove lines in debian/rules16:38
ankurdipankar you tried both paths?16:40
dipankarankur, I get that error in one of the two activities I am assigned.16:41
neerajhi all :)16:44
* ankur will back in 20 min16:45
neerajlfaraone, here is my (for record) rules file http://paste.ubuntu.com/468061/16:45
lfaraoneankur: run lintian on your package, you want to remove the COPYING files that it tells you.16:45
neerajI am confused what should I write in commit message :(16:46
lfaraoneankur: the debian/... path is the right prefix, you just need to find the right place to remove inside there..16:46
lfaraoneneeraj: you added the last two lines?16:46
neerajno.. I made changes according to http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-olpc-devel/2010-July/002600.html16:47
lfaraoneneeraj: okay. "Declare support for all sugar versions in rules.'16:47
neerajlfaraone, I added last two lines in during before uploading the package afair16:48
dipankarlfaraone, ankur is out for a walk16:48
dipankarlfaraone, any solution to my original problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/468039/ :P16:52
lfaraonedipankar: no idea.16:53
dipankarlfaraone, then I shouldn't send it for review I guess. :(16:54
dipankarlfaraone, flipsticks-activity 's problem is very odd. I followed the instructions properly for packaging :(16:54
lfaraonedipankar: it could be that flipsticks just doens't work. ask in sugar ;)16:55
neerajlfaraone, I have updated http://wiki.debian.org/Sugar/tasks.. Please review whenever u get time.. I hope that this time I didn't make ny mistake in s-record-a16:56
kandarpklfaraone: is http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Read the only place where the tarball can be found ?16:56
lfaraonekandarpk: probbably.16:56
kandarpkneed version 87, here v78 is present :(16:56
dipankarlfaraone, I am pushing latest changes in just 15 minutes. Please check if they are proper.16:57
lfaraonekandarpk: ask upstream folk to release a tarball :)16:57
lfaraonedipankar: mark it for review and I'l get to them. if flipsticks just doens't work, ask in #sugar16:57
kandarpklfaraone: sayaminfu ?16:57
lfaraonekandarpk: sayamindu *16:57
lfaraonekandarpk: typo on git.16:58
kandarpklfaraone: yeah, but it has changed here :http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/read/repos/mainline16:58
kandarpkhttp://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/read/repos/mainline16:58
lfaraonekandarpk: like I said, it's a typo :)16:58
kandarpklfaraone: faster than I thought16:58
kandarpklfaraone: and again.16:58
lfaraonekandarpk: ?16:59
kandarpklfaraone: your response.16:59
lfaraonekandarpk: what about it?17:00
kandarpklfaraone: you responded well before I could say anything....too fast17:01
lfaraonekandarpk: okay.17:01
dipankarlfaraone, sorry got d/c17:05
dipankarlfaraone, debian/rules of log-activity. I have commented the lines 12 -20 as per your instructions. But I don't find the DEB_SUGAR_BRANCHES settings anywhere. :( Is it the line 5?17:08
lfaraonedipankar: no. for some reason you lack it.17:10
dipankarlfaraone, any suggestions?17:11
lfaraonedipankar: well, I asked you to comment it out in the mail, so if you don't have it, just carry on :)17:11
dipankarlfaraone, log activity did not run on 0.84. You mentioned to change debian/rules before pushing changes to git repo : [ref : http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-olpc-devel/2010-July/002600.html]17:13
* dipankar is off to dinner17:13
* dipankar is away: Be Right Back17:13
lfaraonedipankar: right. readd DEB_SUGAR_BRANCHES, set it to "0.86 0.88", and restore the rules as before.17:14
neerajlfaraone, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.88/+bug/60876217:18
lfaraoneneeraj: yeah, just remove the browse dep for now.17:18
neerajlfaraone, for this I commented session_expand_activities = $(call sugar_expand_activities,read browse,0.86,$(1))17:19
neerajand build the package.. now sucrose is installing without ny dep error..17:19
lfaraoneneeraj: just remove browse, not read etc.17:19
neerajkkk17:19
neerajlfaraone, actually dfarning asked to to remove read to while we were fixing this in sugar-ppa.. I guess at that time read wasn't working properly..17:20
neeraj*making changes17:20
lfaraoneneeraj: okay, well, read isn't the problem right now.17:20
lfaraoneneeraj: btw, in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52355802/sugar-read-activity-0.86_78-4ubuntu1.debdiff you used the wrong bug number :)17:26
kandarpklfaraone: trying to update browse17:26
kandarpklfaraone: can you let me know the version available at http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/browse/repos/mainline17:27
neerajlfaraone, :(.. should I again submitted the debdiff.. Can i make the change only in debdiff and submit it?17:27
lfaraoneneeraj: I noticed that after I already uploaded it.17:29
lfaraonekandarpk: what about that version?17:29
lfaraonekandarpk: I'd recommend packagin the most recent tarball. but browse right now isn't a priority, right?17:29
kandarpklfaraone: It wasn't assigned to anyone yet.17:30
kandarpklfaraone: so thought of packaging it17:30
kandarpklfaraone: I am not able to figure out the version present at git.sugarlabs.org, commits don't show the version17:32
lfaraonekandarpk: well, it's a good idea, but right now Browse doesn't work in Ubuntu.17:34
lfaraonekandarpk: for very complciated reasons that other people are working on.17:34
kandarpklfaraone: Ok.17:34
kandarpklfaraone: thanks.17:34
kandarpklfaraone: anyway, how do we figure out the version if it isn't there in the commits ?17:35
kandarpkas in this case17:35
lfaraonekandarpk: you usually shouldn't, instead waiting for upstream to clue you in.17:35
neeraj_guptalfaraone,  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52374369/sugar-0.88_0.88.0-3ubuntu1.debdiff17:35
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kandarpklfaraone: ok.17:36
lfaraoneneeraj: working on it.17:43
neerajlfaraone, ok..17:43
dipankarlfaraone, I have pushed some changes to log-activity.17:45
dipankarlfaraone, http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-log-activity.git17:46
* dipankar is back (gone 00:33:02)17:46
dipankarlfaraone, I couldn't find the DEB_SUGAR_BRANCHES line anywhere, except for the line no. 5 in debian/rules17:47
dipankarit is mentioned as work around there.17:47
ankurlfaraone,  still around?17:58
lfaraoneankur: yes.18:00
lfaraonedipankar: right, add it then.18:00
ankurlfaraone,  one more thing18:00
ankurwhen i was packaging IRC activity18:00
lfaraonedipankar: look at other's rules files for inspiration18:00
ankuri used version+date.commitid to18:00
ankurclone the source18:00
lfaraonedipankar: please try to give more informative commits than "Changes: debian/rules".18:01
ankurdid i need to continue with it , or shall i have removed the date.commitid part18:01
ankurin futrhur steps18:01
ankurwell i kept the version same through out the packaging18:01
lfaraoneankur: if you're packagign using the orig tarball you generated from git and get-orig-source, then yes.18:01
ankurlfaraone,  well yes here is for ?18:02
lfaraoneankur: then keep it.18:02
dipankarlfaraone, I will keep that in mind from now on (more info in commit messages) :)18:03
dfarningdipankar, a commit message is not just a formality.... You should be able go back in 6 months when you are updating the package and quickly deternimine what you did.18:06
kandarpkdfarning: +118:07
dipankardfarning, ok :)18:07
dfarningdipankar, its importance is hard to remember until you you have gone back and tried to maintain something you did a year ago:)18:08
dipankarso commit messages are like one liners for the changes which I can refer to18:08
lfaraonedipankar: exactly.18:08
ankurlfaraone,  i was still having problem with Copying warning :(18:08
ankuri have to manually track down the file and remove it?18:09
lfaraoneankur: okay, what's the warning you're getting, and what's the contents of your rules?18:09
kandarpkdfarning: what is the link to the git repo. of jhbuild on git.sugarlabs.org ?18:10
lfaraoneneeraj: sugar-0.88 uploaded with your patch.18:10
manusheeldipankar: Please make sure that we write proper statements for the commit messages.18:10
ankurokay wait, let me post18:10
neerajlfaraone, thanks :)18:11
dipankarmanusheel, Sir I will from now on18:11
manusheeldipankar: Follow <object> <verb> <message> model. Will send the team examples on commit messages.18:11
manusheelThe commit messages should have a proper format.18:11
lfaraone"Fixed typo in FILE". "Regenerated FILE from FILE.in". "Bumped changelog version to FOO". "Fix spacing in BAR"18:13
dipankarmanusheel, that will be great sir18:14
manusheellfaraone: Neat examples.18:16
ankurlfaraone,  this was the rules file : http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-etoys-activity.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/rules;hb=HEAD18:17
ankurand warning :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/468054/18:18
ankuri got it while building the package18:19
lfaraoneankur: I think if there is only one binary package the files are installed in debian/tmp/...18:19
ankurlfaraone,  checking18:20
ankurlfaraone, i will have to reboot18:24
ankurwill be back18:24
kandarpkmanusheel sir: Hi18:26
manusheelkandarpk: Hi Kandarp.18:29
kandarpkmanusheel sir: packaging of read and browse cannot be completed18:30
kandarpktheir tarballs aren't available18:30
manusheelkandarpk: Yes, went through the logs. Unfortunate.18:30
manusheelkandarpk: Let us package connect in Ubuntu.18:31
kandarpkmanusheel sir: I've written to Sayamindu for updating read tarball18:31
manusheelkandarpk: Yes, I did see your e-mail.18:31
kandarpkmanusheel sir: Ok.18:31
manusheelI hope we get an immediate response from Sayamindu.18:31
kandarpkmanusheel sir: anything else I should be doing right now ?18:32
kandarpk*switching to Ubuntu18:34
lfaraonelucian: oh. libwebkit-1.0.1 won't suffice, I take it.18:37
lucianlfaraone: not the last time i tried18:38
lucianlfaraone: i may be able to dumb it down to work with that18:38
lucianbut i'd lose features18:38
lfaraonehm.... that's the latest in unstable.18:38
kandarpklfaraone: is this the right place for connect-activity package for Ubuntu ?18:38
kandarpkhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-connect-activity/21-0ubuntu118:38
lfaraonewait, what am I thinking, lol.18:39
lucianlfaraone: i could have a look at trying to backport it18:39
lucianlfaraone: since we've already pretty much decided that pywebkitgtk is obsolete and we'd need to move to PyGI18:39
lfaraonelucian: hm. in unstable there is "libwebkit-1.0.2" version "1.2.3". Am I missing something? :)18:41
lfaraoneref: http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/webkit18:41
* lfaraone will bbl.18:41
lucianlfaraone: 1.2.3 is a more likely version for a recent package18:41
luciani don't get the version thing either18:42
manusheelkandarpk: Hi Kandarp.18:47
manusheelHad gone downstairs to attend a call.18:47
kandarpkmanusheel sir: Hello sir.18:47
kandarpkmanusheel sir: np.18:48
manusheelkandarpk: Thanks.18:48
manusheelkandarpk: You had some questions on Sugar Api documentation, right?18:49
dipankarmanusheel, sent you an e-mail18:50
kandarpkmanusheel sir: yes sir18:50
dipankar*Sir18:50
manusheeldipankar: Thank you.18:50
dipankarmanusheel, Sir,18:50
dipankarI would be going to bed now18:50
kandarpkmanusheel sir: not technical18:50
manusheelkandarpk: Could you please let me know your questions. Sure.18:50
manusheeldipankar: Sure.18:50
* dipankar says good bye to all. Have a great day and night18:51
kandarpkmanusheel sir: what approach do we need to take to change the docstrings ?18:51
kandarpkdipankar: god night18:51
neerajdipankar: good night18:51
kandarpkmanusheel sir: I know how to change the source present on the VM18:54
kandarpkmanusheel sir: but we can directly change the source maintained at git repo.18:54
kandarpkmanusheel sir: is that an option ?18:55
manusheelkandarpk: Let me think.18:55
manusheelkandarpk: Yes, we can do that.18:55
manusheelInfact, that is how it should be done.18:56
manusheelkandarpk: However, the steps we have followed is also a good option.18:57
kandarpkmanusheel sir: If we change it on git repo, the changes will be universal18:58
kandarpkmanusheel sir: moreover, others can contribute in much easier way.18:58
kandarpkbut again, we might like some formatting in docstrings to make HTML pages look good18:59
kandarpkwhich might not look as good in the source file18:59
manusheelkandarpk: Sure. Completely agree.19:00
manusheelkandarpk: That is a very good idea.19:01
manusheelkandarpk: Did you get a chance to do a test commit at git?19:03
kandarpkmanusheel sir: not yet.19:04
kandarpkwanted to know its feasibility first19:04
manusheelkandarpk: Yes, it is feasible. Just that we need to check whether the commit is moderated?19:05
manusheelkandarpk: Let us confirm the workflow with David too.19:06
manusheelkandarpk: Can you send me the link to the git repository?19:06
neerajdfarning: around?19:06
kandarpkmanusheel sir: I asked David for it19:06
manusheelkandarpk: What did David recommend?19:07
kandarpkmanusheel sir: he didn't reply *regarding the link19:07
kandarpkmanusheel sir: you can use 'git clone git://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar-jhbuild/mainline.git'19:08
kandarpknot sure about the website19:08
manusheelkandarpk: Ok, this is the source that has been used at VM.19:09
manusheelI.e. from the git repository.19:09
kandarpkmanusheel sir: yes sir.19:09
manusheelkandarpk: Great. Then we can use the method that we just discussed.19:10
manusheelkandarpk: Thank you for sending the e-mail on connect activity.19:13
kandarpkmanusheel sir: working on it19:14
ankurlfaraone,  around?19:14
ankurhi manusheel sir19:14
manusheelankur: Hi Ankur.19:15
manusheelkandarpk: Sure. One question, Kandarp.19:15
kandarpkmanusheel sir: yes sir19:15
manusheelkandarpk: What is the status of the pippy activity?19:15
kandarpkmanusheel sir: it uses external library19:16
kandarpkmanusheel sir: so, haven't worked on it19:17
manusheelkandarpk: Ok, so, we should write a note about it at the Sugar tasks.19:17
manusheelName the library and dependency.19:17
manusheelIn that note.19:18
manusheelankur: How is etoys coming along?19:18
ankurSir, everything is sorted out , but for the redundant copying thing19:18
ankurwas  working on finding it's path19:19
ankurother wise19:19
kandarpkmanusheel sir: done19:19
ankuri  will mail mailing list and Luke to see if there is a workaround19:19
neerajankur: can u paste lintian ouput again?19:20
ankurwell wait19:20
manusheelankur: Ok.19:20
ankurneeraj,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/468054/19:21
manusheelkandarpk: Did you face issue that Ankur is facing?19:21
kandarpkmanusheel sir: no sir.19:22
ankurwell kandarpk  i think so19:22
kandarpkankur: not regarding any license files19:23
ankurhttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-olpc-devel/2010-July/002591.html19:23
ankuri dont know19:23
ankurmay be yours was a different problem19:23
manusheelkandarpk: Ok.19:23
ankurneeraj,  are you getting same error?19:24
ankur~/ is for homefolder right?19:24
ankurwhat is for root folder ?19:24
kandarpkmanusheel sir, ankur : it seems same19:24
kandarpklet me check19:24
neerajankur: yes19:25
neerajankur: cloning the package.. will let u knw19:25
ankurkandarpk, neeraj  sir what is path specification to root ?19:25
kandarpkankur: add something like19:25
kandarpkinstall/sugar-memorize-activity::19:25
kandarpkrm -f debian/sugar-memorize-activity/usr/share/activities/Memorize.activity/port/COPYING19:25
kandarpkto your rules file19:25
kandarpklet me paste it on pastebin19:25
ankurkandarpk,  i did the same thing19:26
ankurbut the point was19:26
ankurmy lintian warning was not going19:26
ankurwell how did you checked that yours was working19:26
ankurkandarpk,  actually19:26
ankurit worked19:27
ankuras i included that in my previous rules file19:27
ankurbut lintian shows warning as well19:27
ankurso is that okay?19:27
ankurthe file is being removed but warning is still there , any hints?19:27
kandarpkankur: I think its ok, as the files wont be included in the package19:28
ankurwell then i will send the package for review .19:29
manusheelkandarpk: The next activity that I would like to assign you is Speak project.19:31
neeraj_guptaankur, around19:32
kandarpkmanusheel sir: Ok.19:33
ankurneeraj, yes19:33
neeraj_guptaankur, see last line of ur rules file19:33
manusheelkandarpk: Kindly add your name at the Sugar/tasks.19:33
neeraj_guptarm -f debian/sugar-write-activity/usr/share/sugar/activities/Etoys.activity/COPYING :)19:33
neeraj_guptait should be sugar-etoys-activity19:34
ankurneeraj,  well i tried it with that as well , i goofed19:34
ankurii will change it19:34
manusheelankur: Yes, you should change it.19:35
ankurmanusheel,  it was just that i treid with debain/sugar-etoys-activity and with19:35
manusheelankur: Please don't goof things when it comes to packaging :-)19:35
ankur/usr/...19:35
ankurmanusheel sir , sorry19:36
manusheelkandarpk: In front of speak activity.19:36
kandarpkmanusheel sir: done19:36
manusheelankur: No worries. Be careful. I hope you have not goofed up things in irc and puzzle activity.19:36
manusheelkandarpk: Great.19:37
manusheelkandarpk and neeraj: Just had a word with Ankur. Could you please review IRC and Jigsaw activity that Ankur will be sending for review today.19:37
alsrootdebian related question, is it important to not have name conflicts for sources, i.e. binary packages don't conflict but sources do19:37
alsrootsources do not conflict within the same repo19:39
neerajgood night all.. No battery in laptop and my charger is not with me :(19:39
manusheelalsroot: We should avoid conflict in names. Can you elaborate the case?19:40
kandarpkalsroot: I think Dipankar had to rename log activity due to this reason19:40
manusheelneeraj: Good night.19:40
manusheelneeraj: Did you submit record?19:40
manusheelfor review?19:40
neerajmanusheel: yes19:40
manusheelneeraj: Great.19:40
neerajmanusheel sir, also patched for ubuntu bugs is done.. :)19:40
kandarpkneeraj: you have any idea ?19:41
manusheelneeraj: Very neat.19:41
alsrootthe thing is that binaries do not conflict, and sources as well but only within the same repo(which is on official and will be attached)19:41
alsrootlfaraone: ^19:41
alsroots/which is on/which is not/19:41
neerajkandarpk sir about what?19:41
neeraj* might s=get disconnect ny time.. 3% battery19:41
kandarpkneeraj: dipankar renamed logviewer to log19:42
kandarpkdo you know the reason for that19:42
manusheelneeraj: Good night Neeraj. Talk to you tomorrow.19:43
manusheelkandarpk: Did Dipankar submit log viewer for review?19:43
neerajkandarpk sir https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-logviewer-activity19:43
manusheelkandarpk: Don't see r?19:43
neerajin ubuntu its logviewer19:43
manusheelkandarpk: In front of log viewer.19:44
kandarpkhttp://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-log-activity.git;a=summary19:45
kandarpkmanusheel sir: he has pushed some changes 2 hours ago19:45
manusheelkandarpk: Ok. That is good. He should have added "r?" in front of the activity.19:45
manusheelNot sure, why he didn't do that.19:46
kandarpkmanusheel sir: and yes, I had tested his package on diff. versions of sugar19:46
kandarpkso maybe its complete19:46
manusheelkandarpk; Should we put an "r?" in front of the activity?19:47
ankursir should i call him and  ask?19:47
ankurbut may be it's too late19:47
kandarpkmanusheel sir: I don't think so19:47
manusheelkandarpk: Ok, we'll wait.19:48
kandarpkmanusheel sir: his rules file doesn't seem to be upto date19:48
kandarpklog had failed to start on 0.8419:48
manusheelankur: Yes, it is indeed late.19:48
kandarpkso, he'll need to add that19:48
manusheelkandarpk: OK, interesting to hear.19:48
manusheelankur: You should submit irc and jigsaw puzzle for review. Let us see how things work out.19:50
manusheelankur: Add an r?19:50
manusheelin front of the activities when you send them for review.19:50
ankurmanusheel sir, should i put r? after it has been passed by kandarp or now?19:51
manusheelkandarpk: Will you be able to review irc and jigsaw puzzle now?19:52
manusheelHow much time will reviewing require?19:52
ankur i am sending IRC in 5 min ,i was just making sure everything is up to date19:52
kandarpkmanusheel sir: 15 min or so.19:53
manusheelkandarpk: Ok, please do it, and take rest.19:53
manusheelkandarpk: We'll begin with packaging speak tomorrow.19:53
kandarpkmanusheel sir: Ok.19:53
manusheelkandarpk: Great.19:55
manusheelankur: Please facilitate coordination with Kandarp.19:56
ankurmanusheel sir, sure19:56
manusheelankur: What about sliderpuzzle?20:02
manusheelIs it also ready for review?20:02
ankursir slider puzzle i will send after these activities.20:02
ankurmanusheel,  sir no i had to push pristine tar branch in it, so needed some guidance on that.20:03
manusheelankur: Ok.20:03
manusheelankur: Can you send me the areas, where you need guidance on that activity?20:04
manusheelkandarpk: Have we worked on such a use-case? Pushing pristine tar branch/20:04
manusheel?*20:04
ankursir ,actually it is not a big problem20:05
ankurit could be done easily adding --all tag20:05
ankurbut the problem is that when i pulled changes made by luke20:05
kandarpkgit push git+ssh.... pristine-tar20:05
ankuri lost my pristine branch on local rep20:06
manusheelankur: I think Kandarp just provided the solution.20:08
manusheelankur: Did it satisfy your questions?20:08
ankurmanusheel sir , no20:11
ankuractually20:11
ankurit will involve some different steps20:11
ankur, but let me send the jigsaw puzzle first20:11
manusheelankur: Can you elaborate?20:12
manusheelankur: Please e-mail to Neeraj too.20:12
manusheelneeraj: Did you get your adapter?20:13
ankurmanusheel,  sir i dont have pristine tar branch on my machine as of now.I will have to import it again .20:13
ankurand how do i do that i am not sure20:13
ankurwhat i will try to do is package using same debian folder and package from start20:14
ankurand then upload the activity to sliderpuzzle220:14
manusheelankur: I think our team did that before. neeraj_gupta and kandarpk, do we have a documentation on these steps?20:14
manusheelkandarpk and neeraj_gupta: Did we do these steps before in activities?20:14
manusheelpackaged earlier*20:15
manusheelankur: Also, send the IRC activity.20:15
ankurmanusheel,  i sent it .20:15
kandarpkmanusheel sir: I think ankur means pulling the git repo is leading to deletion of pristine-tar20:15
manusheelkandarpk: Any workaround for Ankur's question?20:16
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manusheelankur: I didn't receive jigsaw puzzle activity.20:17
manusheelDid you send it to us?20:17
ankurno i send irc first20:17
ankur*sent20:17
manusheelankur: Send the jigsaw puzzle activity too.20:17
neeraj*is back :)20:18
kandarpkmanusheel sir: Sir, deletion of a branch on pulling seems odd20:18
ankurkandarpk,  it didnt delete20:18
ankuractually20:18
kandarpkankur: yeah, I understand that20:18
ankurkandarpk,  i cloned it in different rep at folder at that time.20:18
manusheelneeraj: Great.20:19
kandarpkankur: copy your folder and then use git pull20:19
manusheelneeraj: Could you please review IRC and jigsaw puzzle activity. Ankur will then send it for review to Luke. We wish to make sure that we could achieve r+ in minimum iterations. Deadline to meet. Debconf round the corner.20:20
kandarpkankur: did you use git clone ?20:20
manusheelneeraj: Kandarp has started reviewing it. Wish to make sure that we have a serious review by us before sending it across to Luke.20:20
manusheelankur: Please reply quickly.20:21
ankurkandarpk,  yes.20:21
ankurand i donthave my original rep right now20:21
neerajankur: u can push it on git..20:21
ankurso that is the problem i will have to pull orig source again20:22
ankuri will try20:22
ankuri think i have a workaround for it20:22
manusheelankur: Please try now.20:22
neerajwe can see their and tell u the changes if we could find ny problem20:22
manusheelankur: We wish to send all 4 activities for review today, if possible.20:22
manusheelOtherwise, we'll send slider puzzle tomorrow.20:22
ankurmanusheel sir , sure sir20:22
ankuri am trying20:23
manusheelankur: Neat. I am still waiting for your e-mail on jigsaw puzzle. Wish if you could send that e-mail first.20:23
kandarpkankur: Homepage is missing in control.in in s-irc-a20:25
lfaraonealsroot: I'm sorry, I don't think I know your question.20:27
lfaraoneankur: you rang?20:28
alsrootlfaraone: in external repo, I have binary packages that don't have possible name conflicts with the rest of the system, but sources could (but don't within this external repo) -- is it ok, I guess source packages are not intended to be installed like binaries20:29
lfaraonealsroot: that's correct.20:29
lfaraonealsroot: conflicts is only relevant for binaries.20:29
alsrootlfaraone: thanks, it will make my life easier :)20:30
neerajlfaraone: in etoys see http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-etoys-activity.git;a=blob;f=setup.py;h=ec0f64e02a67b85153a5a4ba693ac7696ad73063;hb=3f80f3c9e44cecefc726cf089b5c4deb3e31e49320:31
lfaraoneneeraj: what about it?20:32
neerajsetup.py has no copyright information20:32
neerajso we should skip it?20:32
neerajin copyright20:32
lfaraoneneeraj: well, COPYING says "Copyright (c) 2006-2008 Viewpoints Research Institute, and Contributors", so I'd assume that covers the entire project.20:33
neerajlfaraone: ok20:33
lfaraoneneeraj: but feel free to ask bert for clarification.20:37
neerajlfaraone: ok.. can u see debian of my s-write-a http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-write-activity.git;a=tree;f=debian;hb=c7b5821e04d47da9dfe879fcc461f7b1728e2c3920:37
neerajI think i need to delete patch folder?20:38
lfaraoneneeraj: sure. it's getting created because MANIFEST is being created during the package build. add to your clean:: rule to rm -f MANIFEST.20:38
neerajhttp://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-write-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules;h=7f9f2c846712391cb54f61b408c637dfe2d64294;hb=c7b5821e04d47da9dfe879fcc461f7b1728e2c39 I have added20:39
neerajI have added that..20:39
neerajlfaraone: i will ping u after making some changes which i think are incorrect20:40
lfaraoneneeraj: mk, then you can probably remove the patch :)20:40
=== neeraj__ is now known as neeraj
ankurlfaraone,  hi20:43
ankurya i ranged :)20:43
ankuractually20:43
ankurlintian was still giving warning even after i have set COPYING to be removde in install rule20:43
neerajankur, u regenerated control file.. right for etoys?20:44
neerajankur, or its some other activity20:44
lfaraoneankur: hm?20:46
lfaraonekandarpk: by the way, you probably meant to say "New upstream version.", rather than "New version release.", which doens't make any sense :)20:46
kandarpklfaraone: damn20:46
ankurlfaraone,  i added rule to remove redundant copying file20:46
lfaraoneankur: okay.20:47
ankurbut lintian stills shows warning20:47
kandarpklfaraone: gtg, power cut20:47
ankurneeraj,  you were asking?20:47
kandarpkgood night all20:47
ankurbye20:47
ankurkandarpk20:47
neeraj<ankur> lintian was still giving warning even after i have set COPYING to be removde in install rule20:47
kandarpklfaraone: sorry for leaving in a hurry20:47
lfaraonekandarpk: no worries.20:48
kandarpkwill make changes tomorrow morning20:48
ankurneeraj,  will have to check20:48
ankurrunning again20:48
Ian_Danihermanusheel et alia: Waiting for a response on the ##reconstructor IRC channel - verified that the individual I'm addressing is the lead dev.20:48
Ian_Danihermanusheel: if he doesn't respond in a timely fashion, and if I am unable to contact him via other means, I'll return to a shell-script based build sys20:49
ankurneeraj,  still same problem.20:51
ankuru there?20:51
lfaraoneankur: I just tested your package, lintian did not report the error when I ran "git-buildpackage; lintian -iIv ../sugar-etoys-activity_115-1_all.deb"20:51
ankuryes in etoys it was not reporting, but in irc it gave20:52
lfaraoneankur: although it did find a problem with your description that you should correct.20:52
ankuri will double check20:52
neerajankur, ok20:52
lfaraoneIan_Daniher: typically ## means "unofficial", no?20:52
ankurlfaraone,  problem as in?20:53
neerajlfaraone, if I delete manually debian/patches dir and run git add debian/ and git commit -m'message' that will be sufficient.. right?20:53
manusheelIan_Daniher: Thanks for the update. I hope we get a positive response from them.20:53
lfaraoneneeraj: you should "git rm debian/patches -r".20:53
ankurlfaraone,  but we do leave readme in patches folder, dont we20:53
manusheelIan_Daniher: I'll join #reconstructor channel too.20:54
lfaraoneankur: if ther'es a readme, yes, you should just remove the patch then.20:54
ankurlfaraone,  you found some rpoblem with description , can  you elaborate on that?20:57
lfaraoneankur: what does lintian tell you when you run it over the .deb your package produced?20:58
ankurlfaraone,  i always checked the lintian when i ran git-buildpackage20:58
ankurjust a min20:59
ankurlfaraone,  got it , let me check20:59
dfarningmanusheel, ping21:02
manusheeldfarning: Hi David.21:02
dfarninghello manusheel it is only 1:30 in the morning I thought you would still be awake:)21:03
manusheeldfarning: Yes, I am awake. Meeting at #reconstructor.21:03
dfarningmanusheel, did you resovle the documentation problem.21:04
manusheeldfarning: Ian is having a word with the lead dev there. Please join us.21:04
manusheeldfarning: Yes.21:04
manusheeldfarning: We are able to insert doc strings.21:04
manusheeldfarning: We now need to use git. Kandarp had a question with you on it.21:05
manusheeldfarning: Will ask him to send you the e-mail.21:05
dfarningmanusheel, thank you.  Please make sure that if they have important questions and I miss them on IRC.  I will always notice an email.21:07
manusheeldfarning: Sure. Absolutely. Thank you for the pointer.21:08
lfaraoneneeraj: ping.21:31
neerajlfaraone, yes21:31
lfaraoneneeraj: in record, please indent all lines under the "other-X11" license block as it is done for the GPL and LGPL below it.21:32
lfaraoneneeraj: also, blank lines should have a single space and a ".", again as done below.21:32
lfaraoneneeraj: (I'm talking about copyright here)21:32
neerajlfaraone, ok21:33
ankurlfaraone,  in copyright_hints21:34
ankuri have something like this21:34
ankurFiles: purk/COPYING21:34
ankurCopyright: © 1989,1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc21:34
ankurLicense: GPL-2+21:34
ankurit will be included in final copyrights or not?21:34
lfaraoneankur: no, that's a false positive.21:35
ankurlfaraone,  i am not able to remove lintian warning in irc activity21:37
ankurcan you see to it and also check the version no. i was asking abt in morning is right or not?21:37
ankurwill you be able to do that as of now?21:37
lfaraoneSure.21:38
lfaraoneankur: look at your debian/rules, line 70. Does that rule look odd to you?21:40
dfarninglfaraone,  I notice a couple of r+ in the tasks list.21:41
dfarninglfaraone,  I notice a couple of r+ in the tasks list.21:41
lfaraonedfarning: yep.21:41
ankurlfaraone,  sorry , changing that :)21:41
neerajlfaraone, http://paste.ubuntu.com/468165/ fine?21:42
ankurlfaraone,  changed that , and what about version?21:43
lfaraoneankur: well, it seems odd that you're using a git snapshot when there's a perfectly good release tarball out there :)21:44
lfaraoneankur: a quick search for "site:download.sugarlabs.org irc" turned up http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/IRC/21:44
ankurlfaraone,  i will package and uplaod again then.21:45
lfaraonewhich, AAMOF, is newer than even what's in ASLO! http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/402921:45
dfarninglfaraone, are you set with productive tasking for everyone for the next couple of days?21:45
lfaraoneankur: you don't need to repackage, you can import the orig again :)21:45
ankurlfaraone,  no the versions are same , they havent just updated as yet21:45
ankurlfaraone,  and what will write in commits ,any hints?21:46
lfaraoneankur: what are you changing?21:47
ankurlfaraone,  version no. as of now and nothing else.21:47
ankurwell let me import and check if there are other changes as well , as i am not sure what effects it will have21:48
lfaraoneankur: hm. you somehow imported the upstream tarball incorrectly, the upstream branch contains your debian directory.21:48
ankurlfaraone,  well i am not sure on that front :(21:49
ankurway to rectify it?21:49
neeraj* good night all.. Not feeling well today :(..21:50
neerajlfaraone please review activities whenever u get time and I will make required changes tomorrow.. :)21:50
manusheelneeraj: Good night.21:50
manusheelPlease take care of your health.21:51
lfaraoneneeraj: feel better, get some rest.21:51
manusheelneeraj: Yes, Neeraj. Please do so.21:51
manusheellfaraone: +!21:51
manusheel+121:51
neerajlfaraone, manusheel sir Ok.. thanks :)21:51
lfaraoneankur: well, I'm not sure how to do it without losing history. I guess you'll have to start agian.21:52
ankurlfaraone, sure no problem , in the meanwhile if you could check etoys activity and see what things are needed to be rectified21:53
lfaraoneankur: mark it on the wiki apge.21:53
ankurlfaraone,  sure21:54
ankurlfaraone,  one moe thing21:55
lfaraoneankur: okay21:55
ankuri had slider puzzle activity packaged eom time back21:55
ankursome/eom21:56
ankuri was not sure then how to pull changes21:56
ankurso i cloned the rep again on my local machine21:56
ankurbut i what mistake i did was i haven't pushed pristine tar and upstram branch before21:56
ankurso i didn't get in clone as well21:57
ankurand now i dont have my original copy.21:57
ankurCan i package that again as well?21:57
lfaraoneankur: sure.21:58
ankurbut we will lose history in that case , will that be a issue?21:58
ankuras it was reviewed once by you21:58
lfaraoneankur: sliderpuzzle, you mean?22:04
ankuryes22:04
lfaraoneankur: well, this is slightly cheating, but you can reimport, then push up only the "upstream" and "pristine-tar" branches.22:05
lfaraone:)22:05
ankurlfaraone,  but will that be really a prob if i push again from start?22:06
lfaraoneankur: well, you lose history, so it's discouraged.22:11
lfaraonewhat happened to yo ur orig, ankur ?22:12
ankurwell i mistakenly deleted that as i cloned the rep from git again22:12
ankuri put the previous one in back up22:13
ankurnot backup exactly22:13
ankurjust renamed folder22:13
ankurbut then i deleted it after i updated the new rep :(22:13
manusheelankur: You forgot the attachment.22:35
ankurattached22:37
ankurand sent again22:37
manusheelOk, great.22:37
* ankur says good night .22:50

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