[00:20] <ScottL> hi ckontros 
[00:25] <ckontros> ScottL: I'ma total space-case. Friday, I totally thought of us talkin'. Got into doin' stuff w/the fam and it was over. Didn't think of it again 'till Sunday night. :P
[00:25] <ckontros> I'm free now though. I'm actually hackin' on some art. ;)
[00:33] <ScottL> oh cool, you gonna have something done for maverick?
[00:33] <ScottL> oh, and it's cool about the weekend, family should come first anyways :)
[00:34] <ckontros> Right now, I'm just hackin'. Don't know where it will lead. Though, an art lead would be better to set a direction. ;)
[00:34] <ckontros> I can talk now if you want.
[00:34] <ScottL> sure, let me get my headset
[00:39] <ckontros> ScottL: I'm "addictedtometal"
[00:39] <ScottL> i'll be just a minute, family stuff and setting up upstairs
[00:40] <ckontros> np. Take your time.
[00:45] <scott-upstairs> okay, calling you
[01:10] <scott-upstairs> http://lmms.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[01:36] <ckontros> Gone.
[10:33] <falktx> hi guys
[10:33] <falktx> can someone test one thing?
[10:33] <falktx> i believe that "vanilla" lv2rack/zynjacku will crash when lv2fil plugin is installed
[10:34] <falktx> or maybe it's the eq-10q plugin
[10:35] <falktx> got it, it's the eq-10q that crashes lv2rack
[10:35] <falktx> patch to fix it here - http://repo.or.cz/w/zynjacku.git/commitdiff/ed42d022a71c3d07fbfd4671cf384c3e08de587e
[11:51] <falktx> what about ffmpeg?
[11:52] <falktx> there is some discussion going on the kubuntu mailing list about libavcodec
[11:52] <falktx> they said libavcodec (a lib from ffmpeg) cannot be included on the official ubuntu cds
[11:53] <falktx> afaik, ubuntustudio includes the full ffmpeg pack
[11:53] <falktx> so I guess canonical makes an exception for the studio guys..?
[17:57] <ScottL> falktx, did you say that you had a patch for gnome-network-admin to remove the 10_disable_interfaces.patch ?
[17:58] <falktx> ScottL: no
[17:58] <falktx> i tried to build without the patch
[17:58] <ScottL> as far as the ffmpeg situation, i have no clue :/
[17:58] <falktx> doesn't work
[17:58] <ScottL> falktx, yeah, me too, but it worked with the version in maverick!
[17:59] <falktx> oh, ok
[17:59] <falktx> that's fine I guess
[17:59] <ScottL> i was working on a lucid install but forgot i was using the sources for maverick and installed source (2.30.2)
[17:59] <ScottL> removed the patch from the patch list and it built successfully
[18:00] <ScottL> then i realized that i had the wrong version for lucid for a SRU and tried rebuilding and ran into the same problem that you probably did
[18:00] <ScottL> :(
[18:01] <ScottL> i'll probably talk to The.Muso later about how to get the patch removed in maverick so it's fixed going forward but...
[18:01] <ScottL> i'll probably talk to someone on #ubuntu-motu about lucid (but expect that we may have to walk away from fixing this version perhaps)
[18:03] <falktx> about the ffmpeg thing...
[18:03] <falktx> ScottL: ubuntustudio is officially supported by canonical, right?
[18:07] <ScottL> falktx, yes it is to the best of my understanding
[18:08] <falktx> hm, that would be an issue
[18:08] <falktx> i don't know why they haven't discussed this before
[18:08] <falktx> the kubuntu guys are kinda mad at it
[18:08] <falktx> they can't include a decent video player
[18:09] <ScottL> hmmm, whatever ffmpeg we include in ubuntu studio comes straight from the main (or universe) archives, therefore it should be the same version available to everyone
[18:10] <ScottL> at least i believe it to be so
[18:10] <falktx> ubuntu doesn't include any ffmpeg libs i believe
[18:10] <falktx> libavcodec, libavformat, etc
[18:11] <falktx> not ubuntu or kubuntu or edubuntu, xubuntu, etc
[18:11] <ScottL> but you say that we include libavcodec in studio?
[18:11] <falktx> yes
[18:11] <falktx> many apps depend on it
[18:11] <falktx> let me check...
[18:13] <ScottL> i found this on the list from lucid:  libavcodec52_0.5.1-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[18:13] <falktx> ffmpeg, audacious, qdvdauthor, spek, xjadeo, openmovieeditor, kino, ffmpeg2theora, blender, audacity
[18:13] <falktx> those are present on ubuntustudio, i think
[18:15] <ScottL> falktx, this launchpad page shows libavcodec available in lucid: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg
[18:16] <ScottL> click the gray triangle next to the lucid release and scroll down
[18:16] <falktx> ScottL: it is available on lucid, on main too
[18:16] <falktx> the thing is:
[18:16] <falktx> ffmpeg and it's libs cannot be included on the CDs
[18:16] <falktx> legal issues
[18:16] <ScottL> oh, just not on the CD!  i understand now, like mp3 coded
[18:18] <falktx> yep
[18:18] <falktx> i'm looking for the discussion page
[18:18] <ScottL> but we (ubuntu studio) include it?  hmmmm, that might not be good
[18:18] <falktx> that's what i'm thinking
[18:19] <falktx> maybe they didn't noticed?
[18:20] <ScottL> perhaps...and perhaps its not worth watching when we serve such a niche audience (the numbers aren't appreciable perhaps)