[00:20] hi ckontros [00:25] ScottL: I'ma total space-case. Friday, I totally thought of us talkin'. Got into doin' stuff w/the fam and it was over. Didn't think of it again 'till Sunday night. :P [00:25] I'm free now though. I'm actually hackin' on some art. ;) [00:33] oh cool, you gonna have something done for maverick? [00:33] oh, and it's cool about the weekend, family should come first anyways :) [00:34] Right now, I'm just hackin'. Don't know where it will lead. Though, an art lead would be better to set a direction. ;) [00:34] I can talk now if you want. [00:34] sure, let me get my headset [00:39] ScottL: I'm "addictedtometal" [00:39] i'll be just a minute, family stuff and setting up upstairs [00:40] np. Take your time. [00:45] okay, calling you [01:10] http://lmms.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php [01:36] Gone. [10:33] hi guys [10:33] can someone test one thing? [10:33] i believe that "vanilla" lv2rack/zynjacku will crash when lv2fil plugin is installed [10:34] or maybe it's the eq-10q plugin [10:35] got it, it's the eq-10q that crashes lv2rack [10:35] patch to fix it here - http://repo.or.cz/w/zynjacku.git/commitdiff/ed42d022a71c3d07fbfd4671cf384c3e08de587e [11:51] what about ffmpeg? [11:52] there is some discussion going on the kubuntu mailing list about libavcodec [11:52] they said libavcodec (a lib from ffmpeg) cannot be included on the official ubuntu cds [11:53] afaik, ubuntustudio includes the full ffmpeg pack [11:53] so I guess canonical makes an exception for the studio guys..? [17:57] falktx, did you say that you had a patch for gnome-network-admin to remove the 10_disable_interfaces.patch ? [17:58] ScottL: no [17:58] i tried to build without the patch [17:58] as far as the ffmpeg situation, i have no clue :/ [17:58] doesn't work [17:58] falktx, yeah, me too, but it worked with the version in maverick! [17:59] oh, ok [17:59] that's fine I guess [17:59] i was working on a lucid install but forgot i was using the sources for maverick and installed source (2.30.2) [17:59] removed the patch from the patch list and it built successfully [18:00] then i realized that i had the wrong version for lucid for a SRU and tried rebuilding and ran into the same problem that you probably did [18:00] :( [18:01] i'll probably talk to The.Muso later about how to get the patch removed in maverick so it's fixed going forward but... [18:01] i'll probably talk to someone on #ubuntu-motu about lucid (but expect that we may have to walk away from fixing this version perhaps) [18:03] about the ffmpeg thing... [18:03] ScottL: ubuntustudio is officially supported by canonical, right? [18:07] falktx, yes it is to the best of my understanding [18:08] hm, that would be an issue [18:08] i don't know why they haven't discussed this before [18:08] the kubuntu guys are kinda mad at it [18:08] they can't include a decent video player [18:09] hmmm, whatever ffmpeg we include in ubuntu studio comes straight from the main (or universe) archives, therefore it should be the same version available to everyone [18:10] at least i believe it to be so [18:10] ubuntu doesn't include any ffmpeg libs i believe [18:10] libavcodec, libavformat, etc [18:11] not ubuntu or kubuntu or edubuntu, xubuntu, etc [18:11] but you say that we include libavcodec in studio? [18:11] yes [18:11] many apps depend on it [18:11] let me check... [18:13] i found this on the list from lucid: libavcodec52_0.5.1-1ubuntu1_i386.deb [18:13] ffmpeg, audacious, qdvdauthor, spek, xjadeo, openmovieeditor, kino, ffmpeg2theora, blender, audacity [18:13] those are present on ubuntustudio, i think [18:15] falktx, this launchpad page shows libavcodec available in lucid: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg [18:16] click the gray triangle next to the lucid release and scroll down [18:16] ScottL: it is available on lucid, on main too [18:16] the thing is: [18:16] ffmpeg and it's libs cannot be included on the CDs [18:16] legal issues [18:16] oh, just not on the CD! i understand now, like mp3 coded [18:18] yep [18:18] i'm looking for the discussion page [18:18] but we (ubuntu studio) include it? hmmmm, that might not be good [18:18] that's what i'm thinking [18:19] maybe they didn't noticed? [18:20] perhaps...and perhaps its not worth watching when we serve such a niche audience (the numbers aren't appreciable perhaps)