[06:29] <zooko> Folks: which is the deadline that would apply to uploading a new version of a current universe package? (Tahoe-LAFS)
[06:30] <zooko> Beta Freeze?
[06:30] <zooko> Tahoe-LAFS v1.6.1 is currently packaged in Lucid.
[06:30] <zooko> The current stable release of Tahoe-LAFS is v1.7.1.
[06:31] <zooko> I *hope* that Tahoe-LAFS v1.8.0 will be released by the end of August, but that is a few days past the Beta Freeze and anyway the Tahoe-LAFS schedule could well slip.
[06:31] <zooko> So, I guess I should try to get Tahoe-LAFS v1.7.1 uploaded for Maverick. :-)
[06:32] <zooko> Hm... how do I initiate that process? Tahoe-LAFS is not (yet) in Debian.
[08:57] <LucidFox> okay
[08:57] <LucidFox> when I try to build with pbuilder-dist sid armel build, it spams the console with
[08:57] <LucidFox> "qemu: Unsupported syscall: 335"
[09:32] <LucidFox> "qemu: could not open serial device 'stdio': Success"
[13:05] <bulldog98> what is the sence of lintian-override files?
[13:07] <umang> bulldog98, I think it is when a certain lintian error or warning clearly doesn't apply to you, or you are justified in ignoring a certain error/warning, you can override it.
[13:07] <bulldog98> ok thanks umang
[13:08] <umang> sure.
[13:08] <umang> bulldog98, I'm not sure about MOTU, but on Debian you have to inform anyone sponsoring your upload about the override and why you've done it while requesting for a sponsor.
[13:09] <bulldog98> umang: that’s not the point I simply wanted to update an package and understand why there are files like that
[13:09] <bulldog98> ^^
[13:10] <umang> bulldog98, ok.
[13:10] <umang> :)
[14:27] <ScottL> if i wanted to add a patch to package in a development release (i.e. maverick) what would i need to do?
[15:32] <lfaraone> ScottL: use "edit-patch" on the source, if it uses a patch system.
[15:35] <ScottL> lfaraone, oh, i know how to apply the patch, rather i meant how do i get the patch applied to the package in the archives ?
[15:38] <lfaraone> ScottL: you submit a debdiff or a bzr branch and request sponsorship.
[16:03] <ScottL> lfaraone, that's what i thought, thanks!
[16:03] <lfaraone> ScottL: which package?
[16:07] <ScottL> lfaraone, gnome-system-tools , this is the package that ubuntu studio uses for network connections (and configuration) but a patch was applied to disable the interfaces because network-manager was chosen as default
[16:08] <ScottL> unfortunatly the 10_disable_interfaces.patch prevents configuration of network, which prevents ubuntu studio users from configuring their network
[16:09] <ScottL> since gnome-network-admin (the actual package built by gnome-system-tools) is now in universe and not installed by default on ubuntu desktop i was hoping to remove the 10_disable_interfaces.patch
[16:09] <ScottL> thus given ubuntu studio users the functionality to configure their network
[16:11] <ScottL> it should be pointed out that ubuntu studio has chosen not to use network-manager because of its dynamic loading that it puts onto the cpu which intermittantly increases latency
[16:11] <ScottL> which should be recognized as a Bad Thing (yes, i capitalized that) for a multimedia distribution
[16:11] <azeem> ScottL: dynamic loading?
[16:16] <ScottL> azeem, my understanding is that network-manager does not apply a consistent cpu loading, i believe this is when it is searching for other wifi networks that are available
[16:24] <lfaraone> If I'm sponsoring a merge that has a debian-ubuntu debdiff, should I dget the latest Debian version and apply the diff?
[16:26] <BlackZ> lfaraone: yes, for example if you're going to sponsor foobar 0.0.1-1ubuntu1 and the debian package is 0.0.1-1 you will want the dsc of foobar 0.0.1-1 from debian
[17:21] <vish> anyone around to sponsor : Bug #604636 ?
[17:24] <Laney> vish: you are mistaken: that text is in the Debian description
[17:25] <vish> Laney: it was in the ubuntu diff
[17:25] <Laney> ...I just looked at it
[17:26] <vish> oh!
[17:26] <Laney> laney@chicken> grep cheesy debian/control                                  ~/temp/cheese-2.30.1 Cheese is a cheesy program to take pictures and videos from your web
[17:27] <vish> Laney: cheese_2.30.1-0ubuntu2.diff.gz , mentioned it , so am a bit confused :s
[17:27] <Laney> the diff.gz contains all changes, not just ubuntu ones
[17:28] <Laney> lsdiff -z *.diff.gz
[17:28] <Laney> but is this really the kind of thing that papercuts is about anyway?
[17:28] <Laney> seems exceedingly trivial
[17:29] <vish> Laney: this cycle the descriptions are getting a make over too
[17:29] <Laney> as you wish, it's your time
[17:30] <Laney> I suggest that you don't deviate from Debian over this though
[17:30] <vish> Laney: hmm , now I have to re-open upstream bug :s
[17:30]  * vish  need to figure that out..
[17:30] <Laney> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer get this page bookmarked
[17:31] <vish> Laney: how to re-open a debian bug?
[17:31] <Laney> that page will guide you
[17:31] <vish> just now , did the -done reply
[17:31]  * vish reads :)
[17:40] <ari-tczew> MoM/universe: package hp-ppd 	0.9ubuntu2 	0.9-0.1 is it possible to upload 0.9-0.1ubuntu1 ?
[17:42] <crimsun_> no
[17:46] <crimsun_> ari-tczew: note that 0.9ubuntu2 will always sort after 0.9-0.1ubuntu1 (you can use dpkg --compare-versions to confirm)
[17:47] <ari-tczew> crimsun_: well, in this case only fakemerge is possible right?
[17:47] <ari-tczew> upload ubuntu3 with changes like in merge
[17:48] <crimsun_> ari-tczew: "fakemerge"? Are you meaning to drop the Ubuntu delta ("fakesync") or to perform a merge?
[17:48] <ari-tczew> crimsun_: perform a merge in ubuntu3
[17:48] <crimsun_> yeah, you'll have to merge it
[17:48] <ari-tczew> crimsun_: are you expierenced with sound system?
[17:49] <crimsun_> (do I really want to answer that question...?)
[17:49] <crimsun_> ask away
[17:50] <ari-tczew> crimsun_: because I don;t have a sound on maverick and I;m not sure who is a sound system mastermind - you or TheMuso
[17:52] <crimsun_> well, bugs are good, but what's the issue? Have you filed a bug using ubuntu-bug alsa-base?
[17:52] <crimsun_> (nearly always filing a bug is more efficient)
[17:56] <ari-tczew> crimsun_: and what I can write there? I don't have a sound?
[17:56] <crimsun_> ari-tczew: I need the apport-attached info more than I need your description of "don't have a sound"
[17:57] <crimsun_> sorry, I don't intend that to sound rude, but "no sound" is too vague to be useful
[17:57] <ari-tczew> crimsun_: why do you write that: (do I really want to answer that question...?)
[17:58] <ari-tczew> because I don't understand
[18:01] <crimsun_> ari-tczew: I've endured a fairly significant amount of grief for sound issues over the past five years.
[18:02] <ari-tczew> heh
[18:03]  * hyperair wonders what kernel maverick has.
[18:03] <hyperair> i know that 2.6.35-rc6 successfully borked both sound and bluetooth for me.
[18:03] <hyperair> not sure how those two are related though
[18:03] <crimsun_> maverick's currently released kernel is 2.6.35-rc5-based
[18:04] <hyperair> hmm then it can't be that =)
[18:04] <crimsun_> ubuntu-maverick.git has 2.6.35-rc6 merged (in 2.6.35-12.17); you can find it in the kernel ppa
[18:05] <hyperair> maybe i'll give that one a go. i might have screwed something up here on my own.
[18:26] <ari-tczew> does someone want to merge phpbb3?
[18:37] <MTecknology> Are there any chances of php5-5.3.3 making it into maverick?
[18:38] <MTecknology> or would that be an extremely high expectaction?
[18:38] <MTecknology> s/expectaction/request/
[19:03] <crimsun_> MTecknology: it'd be easier if it were already in Debian unstable
[19:05] <MTecknology> crimsun_: I'd consider trying to help get it there, I'm sure zul needs help. I remember the last time I tried to work with that package I wound up in an angry place for a week straight and then just gave up..
[19:06] <MTecknology> crimsun_: I should try again anyway, huh? - when's the import freeze?
[19:07] <MTecknology> oh.. that was a month ago..
[19:11] <MTecknology> crimsun_: maybe for 11.04, right? :)
[19:16] <crimsun_> MTecknology: it's never too late to help in Debian, and exceptions can always be requested in Ubuntu
[19:17] <MTecknology> crimsun_: I'll do my best - it was only release a few days ago iirc :)
[21:48] <Muscovy> .join #Ubuntu-MOTU-Sponsors
[23:52]  * Laney wonders what that channel is