[00:48] <qwebirc96733> hello any helpers out ther?
[00:49] <qwebirc96733> how do i get the vnc service working via ssh?
[00:53] <qwebirc96733> where do i check error logs on the frontend?
[01:16] <rileyp> ssh -X dad@192.168.1.10
[01:16] <rileyp> then simply type thunar to use thunar etc
[01:17] <rileyp> the -X allows you to open programs in your current screen
[01:20] <qwebirc96733> what that for me?
[01:20] <qwebirc96733> was*
[01:34] <qwebirc96733> how do i start the x11vnc from a ssh session/
[03:07] <qwebirc38198> hello all, just ran aptitude upgrade on my backend and now myth-backend can't seem to connect to mysql anymore (10.04 /w mythbuntu ppa)
[03:08] <Staticwave_Ace> backend reports Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[03:09] <Staticwave_Ace> hrm, it seems mysql is either not starting or crashing
[03:18] <rhpot1991> maybe you shoudl stick around...
[03:21] <Shadow__X> rhpot1991: but that takes all the fun out of it
[06:24] <Technophil> Hi  Can anyone tell me why mythbuntu comes out with Xubuntu in preference to the gnome desktop?
[06:26] <Shadow__X> Technophil: it uses less resources
[06:26] <silverdulcet> afaik, they use xubuntu/xfce since it is lighter on the resources and most people running mythbuntu don't use the desktop.
[06:27] <silverdulcet> Technophil: you can install gnome-desktop on a mythbuntu install, or just install mythtv on an ubuntu-desktop install if you like.
[06:30] <Technophil> Thanks Guys, I am really after the gnome network manager for 3G cards.
[06:30] <Shadow__X> on a mythtv system?
[06:32] <Technophil> Shadow__X: Yes!  In anticipation of the next question, its on a Dell D830 Laptop
[06:33] <Technophil> (Which has one of the most power efficient vdpau "a" graphics chips)
[06:33] <Shadow__X> Technophil: why dont you just install ubuntu on it then install mythfrontend
[06:34] <Technophil> Yes, with the benefit of hindsight that's what I should have done.
[06:34] <Technophil> Ironically when one installs "ubuntu" using the mythbuntu myth CC one only gets a subset of ubuntu!
[06:35] <Shadow__X> i wouldnt want everythig
[06:35] <Shadow__X> but still if i were you i would redo the machine with ubuntu
[06:35] <silverdulcet> Technophil: if you have a seperate /home partition, you could install ubuntu over it and just not format /home
[06:37] <Technophil> I just thought there might have been some more reasons for mythbuntu using Xubuntu than just resources, which in the scheme of things I doubt is much extra with gnome, although I accept some scenarios efficiency will be paramount.  For example it might have also been a developer preference.
[06:40] <silverdulcet> Technophil: well, you also have to remember gnome desktop pulls in *alot* of dependencies that definately wouldn't be used on most mythtv devoted machines, e.g. evolution
[06:40] <Technophil> That seems to me to be the resource issue.
[06:41] <Technophil> Which seems to me to mostly translate to HDD space, as the Linux OS is so efficient....
[06:41] <silverdulcet> Technophil: so really, if you want to use it part time as a mythfrontend and mostly/part time a desktop/laptop its recommened to install whatever you want as your desktop os and add the frontend as a package.
[06:43] <Technophil> Will do.
[06:43] <silverdulcet> Technophil: same logic would apply to a dedicated backend only, you start with the server os you want and then add mythbackend as a service it runs, instead of installing mythbuntu.
[06:43] <Technophil> In my case the need for 3G came later.....
[06:44] <silverdulcet> Technophil: have you tried installing the gnome-network-manager package? not sure if it would work, but I don't see why it wouldn't.
[06:44] <Technophil> I have several D830's now, so will run up ubuntu on one, i'll be interested to see the differences.
[06:45] <Technophil> I expect that will work, might try that first, what will be interesting will be to see what the dependencies are, I suspect it might be quite a list...!
[06:46] <silverdulcet> sorry, the package is network-manager-gnome
[06:46] <Technophil> kewl, thanks.
[09:08] <hot_wheelz> can u attach a name to the logs that mythbuntu generates to to id yours when is gets sent to http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/ is that possible?