[00:21]  * Takyoji wonders how many are alive at the moment
[00:22] <kermit> 6 billion
[00:23] <kermit> oh wow, 6,857,600,000, thats more than i thoguht.
[00:24] <kermit> and it looks like most of them are in india or china http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Population_density.png
[00:27] <Takyoji> otherwise I might not be around for the IRC meeting that I arranged. :P
[00:29] <kermit> just say everyone's nick
[00:35] <Takyoji> Anyway, as I was going to say in the meeting was:
[00:35] <Takyoji> as of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MinnesotaTeam/MeetingAgenda
[00:38] <Takyoji> I feel like changing around the structure of the website; perhaps with more fitting of a design (perhaps with some relativity to the current Ubuntu theming), and perhaps restructuring of it as well. Also would really love to do something in recognition of Software Freedom Day. And as of restructuring, I'd still want to try and include the "contribution commitment" idea soon.
[00:38]  * tonyyarusso is here - hopefully my parents won't decide to have dinner at 7
[00:38] <Takyoji> and anyone's free to start the meeting while I'm gone. :P
[00:38] <Takyoji> Going to the Rice County Fair with my sister
[00:38]  * Takyoji disappears
[00:38] <tonyyarusso> You're such a bum Takyoji
[00:38] <tonyyarusso> geez :P
[00:39] <tonyyarusso> Updated theme:  http://sd.ubuntu-us.org/
[00:39] <tonyyarusso> I'm not really sold on it yet.
[00:49] <tonyyarusso> nerd fun:  http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4820647230_faba1c9f3b_o.jpg
[00:55]  * tonyyarusso is setting the table...this doesn't bode well
[00:55] <sparklehistory> haha
[00:55] <sparklehistory> How do your parents feel about laptops at the table?
[01:32]  * tonyyarusso back
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> So there are what, three of us here?  :(
[01:35] <_diablo> i'm here sorta
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> http://pastebin.com/iXAX2Ncc <--  Call it like this:  ./weather.py "Minnesota" "Lincoln" "Undivided"
[04:37] <rlaager> Related to weather, a colleague of mine implemented this, which summarizes the weather as one or two Unicode characters: http://weather.mar.cx/
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> lol, nice
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> does he share the code?
[04:42] <rlaager> tonyyarusso: I don't know. I'll ask.
[04:43] <rlaager> tonyyarusso: As far as implementation, it just wraps wunderground.com
[06:29] <rlaager> tonyyarusso: http://weather.mar.cx/weather.mar.cx.tar.gz
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> ty
[08:51] <Takyoji> I have moments when there's so much harddisk activity, that the system hangs. And when I analyze the running processes, nothing's using up processing cycles much at all.
[08:52] <kermit> Takyoji: using the disk doesnt use much CPU
[08:52] <kermit> Takyoji: look for processes in uninterruptable sleep
[08:52] <Takyoji> Like, just to freaking open the File menu in Nautilus one time took like 1-2 seconds with a lot of harddrive activity to do just that, when there was no activity before or prior
[08:53] <kermit> i bet you're running firefox
[08:53] <Takyoji> Now I'm running Firefox, all other times I've been using Chrome
[08:53] <kermit> i had problems like that stop after i stopped using firefox
[08:53] <kermit> firefox was calling fsync constantly
[08:55] <Takyoji> Active processes I had running were: Chrome, XChat, and Flash within Chrome
[08:56] <Takyoji> I have a feeling it could be Flash
[08:56] <Takyoji> like with temporarily storing video in /tmp or similar
[08:56] <Takyoji> and not having really acknowledgement with the way that EXT4 works
[08:57] <kermit> i've seen flash in firefox occationally grow to some huge memory footprint quickly
[08:58] <Takyoji> Thing is, I never had high memory nor SWAP usage either
[08:59] <Takyoji> By the way, as I said, I've always been using Chrome and it's also happened to me while I had Chrome active without having Firefox or similar active at all. :P
[09:00] <kermit> yes, as you said
[09:00] <Takyoji> otherwise as I was going to say, I notice that in the system monitor applet that I have on my gnome-panel on the top, that during those moments of poor performance, there's a little CPU usage, and then there's all "IOWait" for the rest of the graph
[09:00] <Takyoji> as per processor use
[09:03] <kermit> that happens to me if i run tcpdump with -As 0
[09:04] <Takyoji> and it's the only outstanding value I can find when my system is lagging horribly
[09:04] <kermit> try ps ax|grep \ D
[09:04] <kermit> when it's doing that
[09:05] <Takyoji> No exclusive CPU usage, minimal SWAP use, RAM usually under 50%, etc. Just IOWait and excessive harddrive head movement.
[09:06] <Takyoji> I'll see if I can hopefully cause the issue on queue or similar
[09:09] <Takyoji> otherwise what's the significance of the command?
[09:10] <Takyoji> an escaped space and a D?
[09:11] <Takyoji> ahh, I see now
[09:28] <Takyoji> As for this system (laptop); I have: 1.7GHz single-core x86 processor, 512MB RAM, 100GB 4200RPM harddrive
[09:29] <Takyoji> My desktop doesn't have the slowdown issues at all
[09:29] <kermit> it could have to do with 'laptop mode' which tries to batch up disk writes in large blocks to allow the drive to spin down longer
[09:29] <kermit> i dont know if thats on by default or some setting.. i dont think i use it on mine
[09:32] <Takyoji> This system is always on charger electricity.
[09:32] <Takyoji> The battery can only last a few minutes of idling
[10:00]  * Takyoji disappears for the night