[00:12] what's the story on what is allowed to ptrace and what isn't ? Is there some mechanism for debug tools to turn ptrace on for a backtrace or is it always off unless I manually wiggle the sysconf value [00:14] well, there is a mechanism, but apachelogger just filed bug 609597 as it still doesn't work right in KDE :/ [00:14] Launchpad bug 609597 in linux (Ubuntu) "Cannot PTRACE (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609597 [00:14] there is a sysctl value if you want to turn ptrace_scope off in general [00:15] yofel: Yeh that's the one I noticed actually; but why is it assigned to Linux? [00:15] because the code that checks if ptrace is allowed to access the memory is part of the kernel [00:16] bug 603716 was the last one [00:16] Launchpad bug 603716 in linux (Ubuntu) "Cannot PTRACE subthreads due to Yama (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603716 [00:20] * penguin42 is curious about how it's controlled [00:24] I cant' see anything in the lkml patch that does anything other than make it switchable in proc [00:27] oh I guess maybe they could give the programs CAP_SYS_PTRACE [00:31] penguin42: there was https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-June/030939.html [00:34] thanks [00:36] yofel: I guess that will lead to some creative poking of debuggers by evil people [00:47] Hi guys, I'm looking for some help improving bug 605199 [00:47] Launchpad bug 605199 in ubuntu "mavererick netbook iso fails at desktop in virtualbox (affects: 1) (heat: 567)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605199 [00:47] Anyone care to assist? [00:48] * penguin42 looks [00:48] * MoLE_ thanks penguin42 [00:48] MoLE_: So you don't say what actually happens when it fails - black screen? random junk? Does it still respond to anything? [00:49] Ok, I can add that. [00:49] * penguin42 wonders what should be done to bug 609089 - I suppose I can see why he wants that, but all the gnome-terminals are a single instance these days by default [00:49] Launchpad bug 609089 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "xkill kills all gnome-terminal instances (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609089 [00:50] MoLE_: If you send the guest a ctrl-alt-f1 does it switch to a text console? What was the last thing you see on the screen before it stops? Do you get any more/different if you remove the quiet/splash from the boot [00:51] penguin42, I can't figure out how to send the guest a ctrl-alt-f1, or I may have had more luck troubleshooting. [00:51] * penguin42 tries to remember virutal box [00:52] Ok I've updated the bug penguin42 [00:52] MoLE_: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=9615&sid=c79dce75d9b09436397acb59992a316f [00:52] penguin42, how can I remove quite / splash from the boot screen? [00:53] too easy [00:53] thanks [00:53] MoLE_: I can't remember the CD boot, but I'm fairly sure sometime before it starts the main part of the boot you get the option of editing the kernel parameters [00:53] I'll get back later with more info thanks penguin42 [00:53] no problem [03:13] kermiac can you help me with bug 605199 [03:13] Launchpad bug 605199 in unity (Ubuntu) "mavererick netbook iso fails at desktop in virtualbox (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605199 [03:22] hi people i want to see the ubuntu hardware blacklist pleas... but i dont know where it is [03:33] sorry MoLE_ I don't have time to go through it with you atm. One thing you might want to try is to see if the livecd produces the same behaviour on that machine to ensure it's not a virtualbox issue [03:34] MoLE_: I'll subscribe to the bug report & try to have a look at it with you when I have some time to spare [03:35] sure [03:37] MoLE_: ok, please let me know how you go with using the livecd. I've seen some weird things happen in a VM that I have been unable to reproduce when using a physical machine [05:02] hi all [10:06] my mplayer hasn't worked without "-ao alsa" for at least a month on either of my 10.04 machines. I find http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2010-May/079932.html but no corresponding bug in LP, could someone who has better launchpad search skills please see if there is a bug already, and if not, I'll file one. [10:07] hm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/575368 might be it? [10:07] Ubuntu bug 575368 in openal-soft (Ubuntu) "opening mplayer stops sound (affects: 4) (heat: 52)" [Medium,Confirmed] [10:14] SwedeMike, mailing list has a solution might work http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2010-May/079933.html [10:15] om26er: yes, workaround are available, but I think this is a typical problem that should be solved "for real" [10:16] SwedeMike, the bug you linked says the problem is fixed with lucid updates. you should report a new bug [10:17] "I can also confirm that the updated package (libopenal1) in lucid-proposed", where does it say this has been pushed out? [10:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal/+bug/351732 says "status: New -> Fix Committed " [10:17] Ubuntu bug 351732 in openal (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "OpenAL crackling issue (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Fix released] [10:17] SwedeMike, becuase the last comment was 2months ago so It should definately be in lucid updates === yofel_ is now known as yofel === yofel is now known as yofel_ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:18] om26er: is there any way to tell? what is the process of a package going from proposed to actually released? [10:20] its should be in updates as there is no lucid-proposed version here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft [10:22] odd, the changelog says '(LP: #351732, #516435)' but it didn't close the bug [10:22] maybe beacause the package was wrong [10:23] om26er: "2010-05-13 22:13 /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1.12.854" so it does seem like I have the new openal [10:24] SwedeMike: what does 'apt-cache policy libopenal1' says for Installed ? [10:26] Installed: 1:1.12.854-0ubuntu1~lucid1 [10:27] that's right then [10:28] closing the bug [11:06] Hello, in iso testing we need this, can someone triage it bug 608382 [11:06] Launchpad bug 608382 in syslinux (Ubuntu) "Error: Unkown keyword in configuration file (affects: 6) (dups: 1) (heat: 34)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608382 [11:32] * nigelb pokes hggdh re: evolution hook :D [11:38] micahg: around? [12:07] nigelb: kinds [12:07] *kinda [12:07] hi everyone [12:07] micahg: hm, hold on, I'll get the bug list [12:08] need your help with reviewing a few firefox patches [12:08] nigelb: no..................... [12:08] nigelb: later? :) [12:08] hahaha, ok [12:08] * micahg is running on no sleep [12:08] * nigelb kicks micahg out of IRC to bed [12:09] nigelb: you can unsub reviewers to bug 585061 [12:09] Launchpad bug 585061 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Segfaults in nsUrlClassifierDBService.cpp when homedir is inaccessible (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/585061 [12:12] micahg: is the bug fixed upstream? [12:13] BlackZ: no, but it's being reviewed...the reviewers team can't do anything with Firefox patches for the most part as we generally will not include them in Ubuntu unless upstream approves [12:13] micahg: yeah, I seen [12:14] unsubscribing, thanks [12:14] BlackZ: nooo [12:14] I dealt with it already [12:14] nigelb: ok, go ahead :P [12:15] BlackZ: I mean. I already did the needful. Added "patch-forwarded-upstream" tag. [12:16] nigelb: I refreshed the page now :) [12:16] :) [12:16] micahg: so no need to unsubscribe the team ;) [12:17] BlackZ: that's up to you guys [12:18] micahg: thanks for the notice [12:20] ok, so 1469 more to go [12:20] 34 down [12:20] nigelb: cool [12:20] I guess I'll take a break for today and clear up another 20 or so tomorrow [12:21] nigelb: great :) [12:28] nigelb: better idea, email me the list at your convenience and I'll take a look [13:02] micahg: ok! [13:02] damn! you're good! You've got better concentration running on fumes than me on all cylinders [13:02] I saw the epiphany bug and didn't think of the package being wrong ;) [13:03] nigelb: I saw it in my email and it said the upstream project was a boulderdash clone [14:07] Hi Guy, I have installed Maverick Alpha 2 and have found that the Arduino package adds an entry to both Electronics and Programming menu, could that be a bug? [14:09] no, applications can be in more than one menu category [14:09] hmm, in a way it makes sense you know [14:10] yofel: okay, thanks. [15:16] crimsun_: suggestion for the volume bug? patch-needswork? [17:14] we have a bug from mark ? bug 609787 he's a triger too ?? [17:14] Launchpad bug 609787 in unity "Ubuntu button edge should be grooved not shadowed (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609787 [17:14] *triager [17:16] sometimes an application crashes and apport tries to collect information about the crash, but then it says this *** application is not a genuine package, what should i do then to report the bug? [17:31] micahg: around ? [17:33] JoeMaverickSett: the package has to be from the official ubuntu archive if you want to report a crash, we don't support 3rd party or ppa packages [17:33] yofel. can you help me ? [17:34] about? [17:34] yofel, so if i keep updating certain packages from ppa(s), does that mean that i would not be able to report? [17:35] yofel: in Places-computer i've the icon of floppy0, but my system haven't any floppy, at wich package assign the bug ? [17:35] yofel, the updates should come from ubuntu update itself? [17:36] JoeMaverickSett: we only support the application version in the ubuntu archive, if you're using an updated version then you can't report a crash with apport, since we don't support that [17:36] you can certainly use apport-unpack or apport-retrace and send the crash report manually do the developers or the ppa owner [17:36] s/do/to/ [17:37] yofel, oh! got it. thanks [17:38] njin: as I don't have a floppy entry here in kde, perhaps nautilus? (I don't have a /media/floppy entry here too so maybe that needs to be removed, then it would be something else) [17:40] yofel: ok, i open a bug against nautilus then. Thanks [17:44] njin: Mark is not a triager, but he does report bugs at times and we triage them [17:46] charlie-tca: he has an excellent view ! [17:46] yup [17:47] and he will even answer if you need more information for it [17:47] Bill never do these ! W Mark [17:53] i have a case where my laptop hibernate do not work because i did not install the proprietary graphic driver, everytime it will boot up with screen glitches, so i have to restart the kernel, in that case how do i see the results at the time of error? [17:54] after restarting kernel and rebooting the laptop [18:22] JoeMaverickSett: There is normally a /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old from the previous start of X [18:23] JoeMaverickSett: Also I think /var/log/dmesg.0 and boot.0 or possibly just at the top of the current files I think depending on timing [18:23] penguin42, if i can get info from there i can file it as a bug? [18:23] JoeMaverickSett: You can file it as a bug with or without that info, but with would be useful [18:23] I'm fairly sure ther e is a page on diganosing hibernate issues [18:24] penguin42, it seems that it would be informative if i can show that, right? [18:24] penguin42, and one thing is that apport won't even know that issue happened. [18:24] JoeMaverickSett: is this Radeon or Nvidia? [18:24] penguin42, Radeon [18:25] penguin42, it seems sort of rare a thing like mine happens. [18:25] OK, well I guess it's one of linux or xserver-xorg-video-radeon [18:26] no; hibernate problems are common [18:26] penguin42, i mean like screen glitches and all on reboot from hibernation. [18:26] penguin42, i might also be wrong. [18:27] no, I don't think it's that unusual - the graphics drivers interoperate with the bios and the boot sequence in a very complex way and often the bioses and graphics drivers and kernel all interact in a broken way [18:28] penguin42, and i'm not really sure it should be called a screen glitch, it sort of like all colours are jumbled up. [18:28] JoeMaverickSett: Have you got a camera? Attaching a picture might be reasoanble [18:29] penguin42, yup, i'm thinking of doing it. [18:29] penguin42, after i've taken the pic and all. might come back here and take help from you guys to file a bug if necessary. [18:30] penguin42, might be of use to the community [18:30] JoeMaverickSett: Even better, you might get your bug fixed! [18:31] penguin42, yup. hoping it does. coz i think ubuntu works better with the open source graphic driver [18:32] penguin42, even now switching from application with key bindings are a bit laggy with the proprietary driver, that's what i feel [18:53] Will apport-collect -p add a new source to an existing report? [18:54] bug 607478 [18:54] Launchpad bug 607478 in apport (Ubuntu) "Apport-collect didnt add to bug also affects project (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607478 [18:56] currently it won't, not sure if that would be useful or not [18:56] Thank you [19:07] charlie-tca: why brainstorm? o.O [19:12] hehe , i tried unity and noting seems to launch in my system ;p [19:13] finally got a terminal open but could not type anything! [19:13] for some reason keys got mapped to something else ;) [19:14] and ended up copy-pasting letters from the about box to execute commands :D [19:28] boy tough crowd tonite! ;p [19:43] yofel: because it may be a useful suggestion. We can gather some opinions on it there [19:44] yes, but the wiki page says too [19:44] Note: If it is a request to add a feature to a specific program it should be forwarded to the upstream developers instead. [19:44] Ubuntu is upstream for it, isn't it? [19:44] that's a feature request for apport-collect, not a general idea to improve ubuntu [19:44] and, it is not a request to add it, it is a report about it being broken [19:45] It is not broken, it simply is not there [19:48] it would be nice to have stuff like that and reminders on the launchpad bug pages to tell people what to do [19:48] sure, but that would be a usability bug in that case [19:48] a usability bug for a missing feature? [19:49] penguin42: well, the reporter thought that -p will add a task for the package, but it doesn't -> usability bug, considering that it never did that I would say it's wishlist, but it's still a but IMO [19:49] *still a bug [19:50] yeh [19:52] and IMHO brainstorm should only be used for large changes where a lot of users will be affected and discussion is neccessary, here we're only talking about a small feature of apport that not many people know about [19:53] You are welcome to change it, then [19:54] is it just something which world need changing in apport or would it need a corresponding change in launchpad? [19:55] penguin42: afaik you can already add new tasks by launchpadlib, would have to look check if that's really the case though [19:56] ok, my point is if it would require a change to both then it would require various people to agree, so brainstorm etc is probably useful; but if it's just something that would need changing in apport to clal an existing interface maybe just the bug would do [19:59] yep, there is a addTask(...) function [20:06] * penguin42 disappears [20:30] hi all, how to show that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/609545 also affect Lucid Ubuntu release? [20:30] Ubuntu bug 609545 in youtube-dl (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Fails to download videos (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Unknown,Unknown] [20:33] grold: it shows it already fixed in Ubuntu Lucid. [20:33] The bug was originally reported against lucid in ubuntu. [20:33] no - it fexed in ubuntu development (maverick) release [20:34] Ooops, I see that now. We can add a lucid task by clicking on nominate for release. Then a SRU will need to be done to have the change put into lucid [20:35] i dit this (nominate for lucid) and that's all? [20:36] yes, but without a SRU it won't happen [20:36] but now this bug looks like it fixed [20:37] in lucid? [20:37] it don't showed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/ and [20:37] neither https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/youtube-dl/ [20:39] for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/libx11/+bug/507062 - in the header of the bug - it's showed that bug affects Lucid [20:40] Ubuntu bug 507062 in libx11 (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "synaptic assert failure: synaptic: ../../src/xcb_io.c:385: _XAllocID: Assertion `ret != inval_id' failed. (affects: 313) (dups: 181) (heat: 1727)" [High,Triaged] [20:40] how to make the same with my bug? [20:45] !sru [20:45] Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [20:45] grold: ^ [20:46] ok [20:46] i nominated the bug for lucid [20:46] and subscribed untuntu-sru [20:46] what i dit wrong? [20:47] grold: which bug are you talking about? just checked one bug now , and it has a lucid task already open [20:47] this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/609545 [20:47] Ubuntu bug 609545 in youtube-dl (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Fails to download videos (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Unknown,Fix released] [20:49] grold: oh , you are triaging .. or are you interested in the fix yourself? [20:49] not that it matters just curious ;) [20:50] grold: btw , user mentions 9.04 , not lucid.. [20:50] now i want to know how to label this bug for lucid [20:51] i think he means 10.04 [20:51] probably.. [20:51] he means it in initial messages [20:51] i checkes in 10.04 - and may approve the bug [20:53] grold: i'm not familar with that package , but you can cherrypick the patch and do the needful as mentioned in the wiki [20:54] grold: update the bug description , add a debdiff .. [20:55] vish: ok [20:56] but i still have a question [20:56] grold: BTW, one shouldn't subscribe ubuntu-sru anymore, that would be done by whoever uploads the debdiff [20:57] grold: one would attach a debdiff and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors [20:57] how to show in launshpad bug header that it affects Lucid (like it made for expamle in this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/libx11/+bug/507062 ) [20:57] Ubuntu bug 507062 in libx11 (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "synaptic assert failure: synaptic: ../../src/xcb_io.c:385: _XAllocID: Assertion `ret != inval_id' failed. (affects: 313) (dups: 181) (heat: 1727)" [High,Triaged] [20:57] grold: only a MOTU or core-dev can do that [20:58] micahg: or ubuntu-bugcontrol (?) [20:58] devildante: no [20:59] thanks [20:59] devildante: why bug control ? [21:00] they have no control over that ;) [21:00] vish: micahg: okay, many thx [21:01] grold: that happens only when they approve the nomination , those not in the core-dev can only nominate [21:02] but now the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/609545 looks like it fixed in ubuntu (and in debian) and not showing anywhere -> will lose? [21:02] Ubuntu bug 609545 in youtube-dl (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Fails to download videos (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Unknown,Fix released] [21:02] vish: MOTU can accept universe :) [21:02] and MOTU ofcourse ,.. [21:02] * vish was just being lazy :) [21:02] hehe , i knew micahg would correct that! , should have just typed it :) [21:02] grold: no, the nomination will be addressed eventually, a debdiff would speed things along as you can subscribe ubuntu-sponsors [21:03] vish: I didn't know MOTU could until a few days ago :) [21:04] ah yeah , i noticed that a couple of weeks ago too [21:04] nigelb: which volume bug? [21:05] grold: fixed usually means fixed in the dev release , so in theory the bug should not exist in a released version and we should have no bugs in releases :) [21:05] grold: and if we have a bug in the released version , we nominate the fix for a release ;) [21:06] hope that was confusing enough :D [21:07] :) [21:07] thanks all [21:08] hi, I'm just starting to triage, I'd like to help with some easy ones, how can I search for the bugs who dont have a package assigned in lp yet? [21:09] chilicuil: http://tiny.cc/s36xt [21:12] vish: thx :) [21:12] np.. [21:20] vish: I think you should show both URLs on the wiki [21:21] micahg: i havent removed it , i just hid the long one? why two of the same? [21:22] vish: people might want to craft their own URLs [21:22] hmm , well they can when the open the link too :) [21:52] should I assign 'alsa-base' or 'linux' to the bug 609558? [21:52] Launchpad bug 609558 in ubuntu "Can't get PC speaker to sound the system beep (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609558 [21:53] it looks to me, like it's an alsa-base related bug since he's unblacklisting 1 module [21:57] * crimsun_ perks up [21:58] * BUGabundo blinks [21:58] crimsun_: you are back!!! [22:01] chilicuil: so, a bit of background on why that package doesn't (and shouldn't) have a package assigned: in lucid, there are two packages affecting that symptom _in addition to the specific hardware_: alsa-base and linux-image-2.6.32-foo. One simply can't triage it to affect both source packages (alsa-driver and linux, respectively), because ultimately it's a _hardware_ issue. [22:02] chilicuil: the good news is that, well, you _can_ triage it to affect linux in ubuntu _maverick_, because we've already fixed it there.c [22:03] crimsun_: ok, I got it, I'm gonna remove the package (I've already assigned to alsa-driver, lol), then if it's fixed can I just marked as "fixed released"? [22:05] you can just reassign it to the linux source package, mark it fix released, and add a comment referencing bug 582350 [22:05] Launchpad bug 582350 in linux (Ubuntu) "Please change CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP_MODE to 0 (affects: 1) (heat: 56)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/582350 [22:05] the kernel configuration parameter CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP_MODE now acts on the hda beep driver that actually properly handles pc speaker as well in 2.6.35 [22:06] ok, I'll do that, thx for the extra information crimsun_ =) [22:06] yw [23:39] double you tee eff. 3D enhancement : Analog Devices Phat Stereo