[00:12] <doctormo> pleia2: Yes I thought that might be the case.
[00:31] <cjohnston> doctormo: am I correct that there is no way to view the merge (bzr lp-view or whatever it is) with GC?
[00:32] <doctormo> cjohnston: that is correct, if there is no outstanding bug report for that feature, then there should be
[00:32] <cjohnston> I will look into it.. :-)
[00:32] <cjohnston> ty
[00:33] <cjohnston> I started a python class yesterday, so maybe i can be more productive
[00:33] <cjohnston> lol
[00:46] <doctormo> cjohnston: Well I was actually thinking of recruiting you to be my saint.
[01:08] <cjohnston> your saint?
[01:08] <cjohnston> explain please?
[01:11] <cjohnston> bug filed doctormo
[01:18] <doctormo> cjohnston: Basically you'd be the patron of development, and when I'm working on GC I would be thinking of making it for you instead of some vague concept of community or jono (who doesn't use gc I don't think)
[01:18] <cjohnston> ic
[01:18] <cjohnston> I love GV
[01:18] <cjohnston> GC
[01:18] <cjohnston> it rocks my world!
[01:19] <doctormo> cjohnston: OK about the bug, there already is a view merge request button, but it does something else. could you explain in the bug report more about what bzr does and what it shows and at what stage of the development workflow? That was I'll know where to put it.
[01:20] <cjohnston> Okie..
[02:03] <doctormo> cjohnston: OK, so this feature is a button which shows after you've submitted a merge request and it opens a web browser to show the merge request in launchpad?
[02:03] <cjohnston> yes
[02:11] <doctormo> cjohnston: It did that already, if you look at the videos I made way back in April.
[02:11] <doctormo> cjohnston: After a merge request it _should_ show a button to launch a web browser to view the merge  request. But then again it might be broken too.
[02:15] <cjohnston> ok.. I do see the button now..
[02:16] <cjohnston> hmm
[02:16] <cjohnston> how did I misst hat
[02:16] <cjohnston> miss that
[02:16] <cjohnston> closing invalid
[02:20] <doctormo> cjohnston: heh it's my fault, I read your original idea and thought it was something else.
[02:21] <cjohnston> ;-)  I could have sworn that I had looked for it.. lol and couldnt find it
[02:21] <cjohnston> oh well
[04:24] <doctormo> pleia2, paultag: want to see something fun I made?
[04:24] <paultag> sec doctormo, dealing with the most absurd troll in my life
[04:25] <paultag> doctormo, also check out topic in ubuntu-beginners
[04:27] <doctormo> What happened? netsplit?\
[06:58] <doctormo> AWESOME! Me, standa and alexandrep are working on irc building an svg translation system for these guides. We have a french and chequ translations of the how to ask guide. woop.
[07:32] <pleia2> doctormo: nice!
[07:33] <doctormo> The important part I think is getting a way to do it that doesn't break :-D
[07:33] <pleia2> hehe
[07:33] <pleia2> yeah
[07:35] <maco> doctormo: have you ever tried to read the wikipedia pages about the tudors and stuarts? because it becomes clear quickly that monarchs are better than soap operas
[07:35] <doctormo> maco: Please, I do not have tie to make learning materials about the English royal civil wars! :-P
[07:36] <doctormo> time*
[07:36] <maco> doctormo: i started out trying to tell james1/6 apart from james2/7 and had to go back to mary1s (who *isnt* mary1e!) and then i still havent sorted how the heck mary1s relates to henry8
[07:37] <maco> i think if i ever get this straight in my head that i need to make a flow chart of it
[07:38] <doctormo> maco: They do those, they're called family trees
[07:39] <maco> doctormo: yes but with *extra* lines for "X imprisoned Y" "Z abdicated to \alpha"  "Q killed P" "R arranged for assassination of W"
[07:40] <doctormo> nigelb: Could you mark https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/ubuntu-learning-materials/bazaar-introduction as abandoned please?
[07:40] <doctormo> pleia2: Same of you here https://code.launchpad.net/~lyz/ubuntu-learning-materials/learning
[07:41] <doctormo> maco: You should make a data file, yaml based. Start with the family tree and then find a graphing solution in the repo and make a pretty svg.
[07:42] <doctormo> maco: BTW, did you like the How to Ask guide?
[07:42] <maco> yes i did
[07:42] <maco> and yes, it sounds like a use for dot
[07:42] <pleia2> doctormo: done, I'll create a new branch when everyone gets sorted with a doc format
[07:42] <pleia2> (for now I've just been stuffing them in a directory on my webserver)
[07:44] <doctormo> pleia2: Aye, I'm thinking of merging in these guide branches to be a part of the materials project.
[07:44] <doctormo> pleia2: They're standard as far as I can see, svg only with xml translations.
[07:44] <pleia2> ah, sounds good
[07:44] <pleia2> cool
[07:45] <pleia2> I really do have plans to write more learning stuff (converting some of the more popular user days sessions is a big one on my todo list), but until format is settled it's just too much work
[07:45] <pleia2> I don't actually know docbook well enough, or mallard at all, to fully invest in either until I'm sure
[07:45] <doctormo> pleia2: Take a look at the license file in the how to ask branch, it's awesome.
[07:45] <vish> hmm , does anyone know how i might have edited "/etc/mailname" ..?
[07:45] <vish> i did something silly and added my email id there instead of the mail server.. :/
[07:46] <pleia2> vish: during mailserver (auto)configuration?
[07:47] <vish> pleia2: when do we do that? i forgot?  evolution config?
[07:47] <pleia2> vish: oh, hm, not running your own mailserver?
[07:47] <vish> nope..
[07:47] <vish> hehe , i must have been fooling around with some config and entered that there :D
[07:48] <pleia2> I am not sure why /etc/mailname would even exist
[07:48] <pleia2> probably :)
[07:49] <vish> hmm , last edited in Jan.. now i wish i had elephantine memory :(
[07:50] <pleia2> doctormo: licence file
[07:50] <pleia2> :)
[07:50] <pleia2> license too
[07:50] <pleia2> I am so impressed that there is such great cc-by-sa artwork out there
[07:55] <doctormo> pleia2: Ah well, mimoly did the original as a request from me, she was a part of ubuntu-th at the time. She made it in inkscape on my request too.
[07:55] <doctormo> I posted the flyer to spread ubuntu, included svg
[07:56] <doctormo> Someone created awesome varients based on the original
[07:56] <doctormo> I'm also buying commissions all the time, inking some, getting inkscape made ones sometimes and other times things just drop into my lap.
[07:57] <pleia2> nice
[07:57] <vish> pleia2: would it be ok to just delete the "/etc/mailname" and expect nothing to explode? ;)
[07:58] <vish> i dont have a mailserver anyway..
[07:59] <doctormo> Ah that's right Ubuntu  and loco, so think of the graphics as a collaboration between Ubuntu Thailand, Ubuntu Nicaragua and Ubuntu Massachusetts :-P
[07:59] <pleia2> vish: probably, I might just set it to the full domain name of my machine to be on the safe side
[07:59] <pleia2> in case something really is using it
[08:00] <pleia2> elizabeth@coruscant:~$ cat /etc/mailname
[08:00] <vish> pleia2: cool , thanks :)
[08:00] <pleia2> coruscant.princessleia.com
[08:02] <doctormo> pleia2: I'm wondering if I should try and convince more LoCo people to commission graphics and make sure they're svg.
[08:02] <doctormo> All the psd, xcf and jpeg images on spread Ubuntu are rather infuriatingly useless.
[08:02] <vish> doctormo: we really have to revive the artwork team and the ML :(
[08:03] <pleia2> doctormo: I suspect they're released that way simply out of ignorance, I think "convincing" would mostly be education on why SVG is the better, more useful, release format
[08:03] <vish> its a lost cause recently , not much work goes on there , and a lot can be done if we use that.
[08:03] <doctormo> vish: Scrap the original concept
[08:03] <doctormo> vish: I have AN IDEA!
[08:03]  * pleia2 is offically sold on the awesomeness of SVG thanks to doctormo :)
[08:04] <doctormo> vish: Center the artwork team around an instance of ccHost, that is what debian does.
[08:04] <doctormo> pleia2: How easy would it be for you to set up a ccHost instance?
[08:04] <pleia2> doctormo: I'm not familiar with ccHost, link?
[08:05] <doctormo> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcHost
[08:05] <vish> doctormo:  we need something like > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests  , one place where teams can just ask for what they want and artists can pick up and work on it
[08:05] <doctormo> vish: That is what cchost is for, wikis be damned I hate them.
[08:05] <vish> oh ok, didnt know how debian does..
[08:06] <vish> + it
[08:06] <doctormo> http://openclipart.org/ is a cchost instance for svg files only
[08:06] <pleia2> doctormo: I have space and bandwidth on the ubuntu-owl host, this doesn't appear to be too difficult
[08:07] <doctormo> http://www.debianart.org/cchost/
[08:07] <pleia2> neat
[08:08] <doctormo> I thought so, I never knew about it until I had to go hunting for that debian branding.
[08:09] <pleia2> well, I'd be happy to set one up if you think it'd be useful (would probably have to wait until tomorrow night or Monday though, it's late and I have a busy day tomorrow)
[08:11]  * pleia2 will finally be getting some of these boxes out of the condo and into newly painted storage \o/
[08:11] <vish> doctormo: i brought this up a while ago with kwwii and he mentioned we needed rules as to what can be requested from the team.  right now the artwork ML and team is basically having people introducing themselves "Hi , I'm here to help" and they probably expect to help in the default art/theme/design/ , and dont get to do anything , situation is a bit misleading atm :s
[08:12] <doctormo> pleia2: If you can set one up, I only need to know the branding requirements and we'll get it set up and then we may need to tweak it before announce.
[08:12] <doctormo> I have several folders of svgs to upload
[08:12] <doctormo> Which would be very useful I think.
[08:13] <doctormo> vish: Well, I think it's hard because we're not clear on requirements, rules etc. After all there are a number of streams of content.
[08:13] <vish> yeah..
[08:13] <doctormo> I know I had to be very strict on licensing with ubuntu-artists.
[08:13] <doctormo> for the free culture showcase.
[08:14] <doctormo> But if we get a cchost set up, I seed it with all my partworks and a few completed works, then we go to the artwork team and plead the change over.
[08:14] <doctormo> We can do a test run of it that way and get a feel for the request system it has.
[08:14] <pleia2> doctormo: acceptable to set it up as cchost.ubuntu-owl.org or ubuntu-owl.org/cchost ?
[08:15] <pleia2> (either one is fine, cchost.ubuntu-owl.org makes it easier to move to new hosts if my hosting ends up unsatisfactory)
[08:18] <doctormo> pleia2: ok go with art.ubuntu-owl.org
[08:18] <pleia2> ok
[08:18] <doctormo> No need to know it's cchost after all, that's tech talk.
[08:19]  * pleia2 nods
[08:24] <vish> doctormo: do we need commenting? it would be great if the artists submitted something and if it is used by some team , team can comment "we used this for our event!" , would be kinda nice for the artist[and others] to know where it was used ;)
[08:25] <doctormo> vish: I suspect that art would make it's way from cchost to spreadubuntu for that kind of event art.
[08:25] <doctormo> But then I have my doubts about spreadubuntu code base when cchost is a complete tool used by so many already.
[08:25] <vish> hmm..
[08:37] <doctormo> Bloody nautilus, it's like a zombie or vampire, you kill it, it comes back, you launch it with --no-desktop and it becomes a zillion instances.
[08:37] <doctormo> Ubuntu broke nautilus with it's damn autostart transition.
[08:40] <doctormo> brb
[08:42] <doctormo> finally got it nailed
[08:45] <doctormo> hey sense
[08:47] <pleia2> doctormo: I changed my mind and installed it tonight, I locked it down a bit more permissions-wise on the server (didn't actually want everyone on the system to be able to read the config file with the database password...) but I think it's ok
[08:47] <doctormo> pleia2: lol, sounds like the right thing to do imo
[08:48] <pleia2> doctormo: I'll give you the admin user, emailing over info momentarily
[08:48] <sense> hey doctormo
[08:48] <doctormo> pleia2: awesome!
[08:54] <pleia2> ok, I'm supposed to be in berkeley in 11 hours, I should get some sleep
[08:54] <doctormo> pleia2: have a good time in Berkeley.
[08:54] <pleia2> thanks, just heading up for a LUG meeting, but they meet at this pizzeria that has the best pizza I've found in the bay area
[08:55] <pleia2> and I haven't been in a few months!
[08:56] <pleia2> ok, heading toward bed, night all :)
[09:23] <sense> One of the hotels we had arrangements with for GUADEC was evacuated this night/morning because of smoke development in the lobby with an unknown cause. :S
[09:23] <sense> Anyone heading towards IBIS Scheveningen?
[09:30] <doctormo> cjohnston: OK for you my patron, I have fixed the revert/merge-in bug that caused branches to lock up, also it should pause for ever. Just get 1.6.6 from ppa:doctormo/groundcontrol (also for anyone else who uses ground control)
[09:31] <doctormo> Embarrassingly bzrlib requires you to run cleanup now, but I never did, so locks never got cleaned up on a whole bunch of instances.
[09:48] <doctormo> Harha, ground control button in gcfunctions to generate all pdf and png archives of each language of the guide.
[13:14] <doctormo> Morning paultag
[13:14] <paultag> morning doctormo
[13:15] <paultag> I'm facing some hard decisions this morning
[13:15] <doctormo> paultag: What's the airoplane?
[13:15] <paultag> my phone is lagging really badly. Took about 10 seconds for my screen to turn on because I'm using Android 2.2, and it's a phone made for 1.x
[13:15] <paultag> doctormo, so either loose all the features that I've come to rely on, or stick with all this crap-lag
[13:17] <nigelb> heh
[13:17] <paultag> this is no laughing matter nigelb!
[13:17] <doctormo> paultag: You could recode it to use Vala
[13:17] <paultag> Oh yeah, then I can get a 20 second lag :P
[13:18] <nigelb> LOL
[13:18] <doctormo> paultag: It compiles to C code, exactly how is that going to be slower than Java
[13:19] <paultag> doctormo, it's not, I just hate code generators that generate code to generate code
[13:19] <doctormo> paultag: And I hate PHP, we all have our quirks.
[13:19] <paultag> :)
[13:20] <paultag> that and my bootscreen rocks for my droid
[13:20] <paultag> but I made it and backed it up, but still :)
[13:20] <paultag> http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1233928590_citizen%20kane%20clapping.gif <-- every boot
[13:22] <nigelb> paultag: pretty good!
[13:22] <paultag> :)
[13:22] <nigelb> Im getting amused at results from googling "nigel"
[13:23] <nigelb> (yeah, nothing better to do :p)
[13:23] <paultag> haha
[13:24] <paultag> I have the TV on ( I don't watch it much ) and there is some Christian Evangelical talking about how the end of the world is nigh and that we will invade Jerusalem
[13:24] <paultag> it's better then any comedy on
[13:25] <nigelb> um, /me is christian
[13:25] <doctormo> I'm trying to wade around in the utter crappness that is php with the cchost site.
[13:25] <doctormo> I got it looking cool with the css alone
[13:26] <nigelb> doctormo: wait php is crap?
[13:26] <nigelb> I get paid to work on it :D
[13:26] <paultag> nigelb, yeah but you don't go around saying to invade the holy land
[13:26] <doctormo> But now I gotta change some html and it's utter poo, why can't people just use template engines instead of mixing code with content.
[13:26] <paultag> nigelb, and this dude clearly does not know history
[13:26] <nigelb> paultag: ehe, no I dont
[13:27] <paultag> this dude is bad nigelb
[13:27] <paultag> nigelb, it's so bad it's funny
[13:27] <nigelb> doctormo: ah, coded by someone yet to discover mvc I see
[13:27] <nigelb> paultag: haha.  name?
[13:27] <doctormo> nigelb: How is that even possible that a site this big and popular could be coded like this?
[13:28] <paultag> nigelb, I don't even know. He's just some 80 year old non-priest who wants to make a few bucks off dumb people
[13:28] <nigelb> doctormo: I've seen worse.
[13:28] <doctormo> If you tried this on in perl you'd be skinned alive and then laughed at in #perl
[13:28] <paultag> doctormo, are you *kidding* ?
[13:28] <paultag> doctormo, have you seen 99.999% of "stable" apps?
[13:28] <paultag> doctormo, I want to throttle developers
[13:29] <doctormo> paultag: Why do I get the impression that you and I are of a kind, I made an MVC in perl and you probably in php
[13:29] <nigelb> doctormo: At work, I'm leading an mvc revolution right now.  Not one of the "experienced" developers are sure on how to do it
[13:29] <paultag> doctormo, yup.
[13:29] <paultag> doctormo, my framework kicks arse
[13:29] <doctormo> paultag: Not as much ass as mine kicks.
[13:29] <paultag> doctormo, it's so easy to add new code, or revise old code
[13:29]  * nigelb agrees on that
[13:29] <doctormo> And mine is old too.
[13:29] <paultag> doctormo, mine's new and agile
[13:30] <doctormo> foo!
[13:30] <paultag> bar!
[13:30] <nigelb> baz?
[13:30] <paultag> :)
[13:30] <doctormo> paultag: Tell me http://search.cpan.org/~doctormo/Template-Direct-1.16/ isn't a work of art.
[13:31] <paultag> it looks pretty complete
[13:31] <paultag> doctormo, http://github.com/whube/whube/ <-- only "real" implementation of my framework
[13:31] <doctormo> look at the source for data/simple.html
[13:31] <paultag> doctormo, the babies are made in content/, mode/ and controller.php
[13:31] <paultag> k
[13:32] <doctormo> It's enough to make one's head go inside out the way you can do loops
[13:32] <paultag> whoh wtf
[13:32] <paultag> doctormo, http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/DOCTORMO/Template-Direct-1.16/data/simple.html<-- this wall of text?
[13:33] <paultag> also model* not mode
[13:33] <doctormo> paultag: I said view the source, not look at the wall
[13:34] <nigelb> paultag: LOOOOOOVE the dedication
[13:34] <paultag> nigelb, thanks! :)   I'm trying to make it for the new generation :)
[13:34] <paultag> Ah, I see it now doctormo
[13:34] <doctormo> Each line is a test
[13:35] <paultag> doctormo, I mean, it looks straightforward, it's just a new syntax. You'll have to give me a few to fully understand what's going on
[13:35] <doctormo> Look at test e4
[13:35] <doctormo> It's a tree structure loop with single branch skips. Mwhhaha
[13:36] <paultag> doctormo, can you use the enter key and spaces to break up the text?
[13:36] <doctormo> paultag: Can I? It's cpan, that's been written for a good 7 years, you want me to change it now?
[13:36] <paultag> doctormo, no! this is a simple question :)
[13:37] <paultag> doctormo, not a feature request
[13:37] <paultag> doctormo, because honestly I don't like perl
[13:37] <doctormo> paultag: your using php, so I'd guess that perl is your foe
[13:37] <paultag> naw, python makes me a perl foe :)
[13:37] <doctormo> But I don't understand your question then.
[13:37] <paultag> but really, regexps. C'mon. Just admit you slam random keys on the keyboard
[13:38] <paultag> Admit it.
[13:38] <doctormo> Be hoenst I spent years and years in perl and switched to python. I think that says it all about python.
[13:38] <paultag> doctormo, aye
[13:38] <paultag> doctormo, are you able ( with the current build ) to break up lines?
[13:38] <paultag> doctormo, so take a line and indent it
[13:39] <doctormo> what is it about if($$content =~ s/\{\{TAG$start\}\}([\w\W]*?)\{\{TAG$end\}\}/{{PH}}/) { you don't understand?
[13:39] <paultag> haha mmma
[13:39] <paultag> that just looks like maintainable code to me!
[13:39] <paultag> nigelb, Oh and I guess Queue runs that framework too
[13:39] <doctormo> That's because it is, have you seen WORN perl?
[13:40] <paultag> but that's mid-release
[13:40] <paultag> doctormo, WORN ?
[13:40] <doctormo> Write Once Read Never
[13:40] <paultag> Ha!!
[13:40] <paultag> nope
[13:40] <doctormo> ccHost is WORN PHP
[13:41] <paultag> WebCal was so WORN that lyz and I put it up for removal from Debian
[13:41] <paultag> no joke
[13:42] <paultag> it's bad
[13:44] <paultag> GAH!
[13:44] <paultag> I'm convinced Android is out to use up all ram all the time
[13:45] <paultag> I just killed about 8 processes, and now ( 30 seconds later ) all 8 + 2 new ones were up
[13:50] <doctormo> paultag: Reminds me of nautilus last night
[13:50] <doctormo> paultag: Did you see that I fixed a whole brace of gc bugs with one line of code? heh. release 1.6.6 to my ppa so people can get the fix for merge-in and revert.
[13:52] <paultag> nice :)
[13:52] <paultag> I saw cjohnsto n was asking for that
[13:53] <paultag> brb, if I stop talking it's because my net dropped out
[14:08] <doctormo> nigelb: Your thoughts: http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/
[14:18] <nigelb> doctormo: very cool
[14:18] <nigelb> doctormo: wanna move it to mvc like thing?
[14:19] <doctormo> nigelb: I don't want to do anything just now, I made it last night out of ccHost, so I've only been playing with the styles and configurations.
[14:19] <doctormo> nigelb: Although if you know php, maybe you can help.
[14:21] <nigelb> doctormo: I code on php for living now, so yes I do know php.
[14:29] <doctormo> nigelb: I need write access to the php before I can do anything though, stupid php bug.
[14:30]  * nigelb has no clue what that's about
[14:47] <doctormo> paultag: what are you up to today?
[14:49] <paultag> doctormo, I'm trying to find a USB key so that I can install kubuntu on the netbook
[14:49] <paultag> doctormo, but other then that, nothing. You?
[14:49] <doctormo> paultag: I woke up at 7pm last night after a nice long day asleep, now I want to stay awake for a large part of the day but I'm already feeling tired.
[14:50] <doctormo> paultag: Was wondering if you'd be in town for a spot of fun.
[14:50] <doctormo> Note: I also have lots of usb keys ;-)
[14:50] <paultag> :)
[14:50] <paultag> doctormo, I have to pick me mum and sister from Out west ( I can never spell Framinham )
[14:51] <paultag> doctormo, that'll be at about 12, perhaps after that I can try and see if I can get downtown
[14:52] <doctormo> Sounds like something could be done then.
[14:52] <paultag> i'll keep you in the loop
[14:58] <doctormo> paultag: ta lad
[14:58] <paultag> I'm still here :)
[14:59] <paultag> not until about 12 or so
[14:59] <paultag> I've got 2 hours give or take
[16:22] <sense> In The Hague at long last! Stupid train delays: one hour in total.
[16:27] <sense> jcastro: When will you arrive in The Hague? Or are you already there?
[16:27] <paultag> is jcastro on trial?
[16:27] <paultag> they finally caught him
[16:27] <nigelb> paultag: LOL LOL LOL
[16:29] <paultag> :)
[16:33] <sense> paultag: Crimes against humanity, probably.
[16:34] <paultag> typical jcastro, I'm not surprised tbh. But be seemed so normal, but I guess that's what they all say
[16:34] <sense> yeah, know one sees it, but meanwhile...
[17:18] <czajkowski> doctormo: what meeting ?
[17:27] <nigelb> czajkowski: got your ray bans ;)
[17:27] <nigelb> ?
[17:32] <czajkowski> yup
[17:32] <czajkowski> thank feck
[17:35] <nigelb> :)
[18:35] <pleia2> doctormo: we do have the option of using the devel release of cchost, I just went with the latest stable
[18:36] <pleia2> the problem with changing the PHP is that it'll make upgrades a nightmare, will have to patch everything
[18:36] <pleia2> I don't mind doing it I suppose, but I'd need someone better at php than I to help out if patching goes awry
[19:40]  * nigelb offers to help
[20:25] <doctormo> pleia2: Hey there
[20:46] <doctormo> paultag: Sometimes the week is hard enough to merit one of these: http://xvessi.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2ub667
[21:02] <pleia2> doctormo: hey, site looks good!
[21:07] <doctormo> pleia2: http://art.ubuntu-owl.org? yea
[21:07] <doctormo> pleia2: According to the oca guys, you just comment out those lines that cause the issue.
[21:07] <doctormo> pleia2: Also, how hard would it be to install inkscape on a server?
[21:28] <pleia2> doctormo: let me check, I don't have any gui stuff on there now
[21:28] <pleia2> 122 newly installed
[21:28] <pleia2> yikes
[21:28] <pleia2> I'd rather not :\
[21:30] <doctormo> pleia2: hmm, shame they don't do a server version. Anyway I guess I'll use imagemagik for now.
[21:31] <doctormo> pleia2: did you make yourself a user?
[21:34] <pleia2> doctormo: on the art thing? not yet
[21:37]  * pleia2 running around today, at a lug meeting now
[21:39] <doctormo> pleia2: Don't worry about it, I'm just playing with the settings and tweaking it all, if you can just set doctormo as the owner of all the non ww-data files, then I could have a look at the submit problem.
[21:39] <doctormo> While your busy
[21:43] <pleia2> sure, lemme write a script real quick to s/elizabeth/doctormo permissions
[21:44]  * doctormo loves being in a community with such talented people
[21:45] <doctormo> OK I think we need getid3 installed, 1.7.8 with an updated svg parser module.
[21:45] <pleia2> 1.7.9 is currently installed
[21:45] <sense> Are there other people in The Hague for GUADEC?
[21:47] <doctormo> Awesome,
[21:53] <pleia2> doctormo: done (yay xargs!)
[21:54] <doctormo> pleia2: Thanks, ok so getid3 should have svg support, but the website says it doesn't... hmmm, will investigate.
[21:55] <pleia2> ii  php-getid3                        1.7.9-1                      PHP script to extract informations from mult
[21:56] <pleia2> maybe it just doesn't like the package? I pointed it at /usr/share/php-getid3/ when I did the install
[22:00] <doctormo> pleia2: Nah it just complains like a crazy thing about submitting files.
[22:05] <pleia2> weird
[23:12] <doctormo> pleia2: I think I need to have a look at the database, I think it might be storing things.
[23:41] <doctormo> pleia2: OK I think I got things sorted out, but image submission was broken in this version of ccHost so I had to change a bit of code, we can make a patch-set of the changes against the version in your home dir.
[23:49] <pleia2> sounds good, thanks