[00:05] <IdleOne> WaltzingAlong is trolling.
[00:14] <jpds> And waltzing.
[00:32] <seeker^> 100 yards in 20 mins on te m25
[00:34] <jpds> seeker^: MARGARET THACTCHAR'S VERY OWN BERLIN WALL.
[00:35] <seeker^> O.o
[05:21] <EvilPhoenix> we've got a spammer in #ubuntu
[05:22] <EvilPhoenix> er we did
[05:22] <EvilPhoenix> nvrmind xP
[11:44] <ikonia> @mark #kubuntu vistakiller ranting again in #ubuntu and #kubuntu
 that's the great thing about backtrack, you can be on any network and rejoin  ban evade number 1
[11:55] <elky> Tor ain't going to be doing him much good here.
[11:57] <ikonia> nope
[12:05] <ikonia> make sure vistakiller doesnt start up in #ubuntu+1 he's done #ubuntu and #kubuntu
[12:07] <bazhang> IdleOne, you're still opped in #ubuntu
[13:00] <ikonia> there you go, fixed
[14:31] <ikonia> why is ubuntu-tweak now installing packages like automatix ?
[14:33] <topyli> no idea why they added the "application center". maybe they want users to use it for everything
[14:34] <topyli> it has a thing for ppas too
[14:34] <ikonia> well, for me they have just lost support in #ubuntu
[14:34] <ikonia> in the same way automatix did
[14:34] <ikonia> a good tool that could have been part of universe has not just lost any credibility
[14:35] <topyli> yeah they could have kept to tweaks
[14:35] <ikonia> they where being offered help getting it into multiverse/univserse
[14:35] <ikonia> I can't see how that can happen now
[14:36] <topyli> yeah
[14:36] <ikonia> I'd have thought they would have learnt from the issues/reception automatix brought
[14:36] <ikonia> the main developer seems like a really easy to work with and sensible guy
[14:37] <ikonia> dissapointed another tool now falls in the bin
[14:40] <topyli> the app center also has a "package cleaner" with options like clean kernels, clean config, purge ppas but they don't explain those options to the user
[14:41] <topyli> i do understand what they are, but i wouldn't assume everybody does
[14:43] <ikonia> why is that needed ?
[14:43] <ikonia> that's what synaptic does
[14:44] <ikonia> clean kernels = remove kernel package, that's what synaptic package manager is there for
[14:45] <topyli> yep, and synaptic can clean up the config leftovers
[15:15] <gord> actually the computer janitor app is there for cleaning kernels :)
[15:38] <ikonia> chanserv is slow
[15:43] <IdleOne> was I op'ed all night again?
[15:44] <ikonia> no, I removed it
[15:44] <IdleOne> about 3 hours ago right?>
[15:45] <IdleOne> well anyway, thank you
[15:45] <ikonia> no problem
[15:45] <IdleOne> Good morning
[15:46] <ikonia> morning
[19:47] <gord> if anyone is around and watching -offtopic could you let me know? i'm ill and need to go buy food :(
[19:50] <funkyHat> gord: ya
[19:52] <gord> My saviour! *crawls under covers*
[21:09]  * mneptok is exhausted after a week at the CLS and OSCon
[21:13] <Flannel> mneptok: How was the Ubuntu OR booth?
[21:13] <mneptok> Flannel: not bad. i filled in there for a bit when less technical people were not around
[21:13]  * mneptok was mostly chained to his own booth
[21:17] <gord> i don't want to do cons or anything with more than 30 people anymore, i always come home sick :( gotta goto guadec next week as well
[21:17]  * funkyHat cons gord 
[21:18] <mneptok> i have this week at home, then DebConf and LinuxCon back-to-back
[21:18] <gord> not another con :( a funkycon at that!
[21:24] <ikonia>  /whois alonso_