=== vorian is now known as stevie [06:26] JontheEchidna: Hungarian translation is ready for beta testing^^ [06:40] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100726053955-cror389slbob90t7 * src/AccessToken.h fix include [06:59] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100726055917-7g8r7z90xa9ns87i * src/ (AccessToken.cpp AccessToken.h) connect signal to signal rather than going via a slot (esp since the slot is private) [07:18] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100726061826-w0726y7tjh4r3upo * src/ (AccessToken.cpp AccessToken.h AuthHandler.cpp) less debugging more doing [08:05] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100726070456-v3pf4d5ujvwiamxw * src/HttpDaemon.cpp random cleanup [08:47] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100726074717-s6vj0z69qlzk23d7 * src/CMakeLists.txt install dbus xml file [08:58] [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100726075759-3tspk231cvktig2j * src/ (18 files in 4 dirs) ubuntuone-auth -> ubuntu-sso [09:06] \o [09:06] o/ [09:07] Anyone knows where Akonadi or KAddressbook stores information? http://imagebin.ca/view/1rs91W.html <--- I'm not using these anymore and they popped out after reinstall [09:08] Quintasan: Are you ready with Muon's polish translation? [09:09] almost [09:10] I'm working on my system now, but I can get over with it now if needed [09:10] rekonq crash no 22 [09:10] There's one more file that should be translated: http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/l10n-kde4/templates/messages/playground-libs/qaptbatch.pot [09:10] still no ptrace [09:10] ulysses: well, no problem [09:10] grrr [09:10] Quintasan: JontheEchidna told me that Muon Beta will be released n wednesday, so the translation should be ready before wednesday ;) [09:11] deleting .config/akonadi/* did not solve the problem :/ [09:15] * apachelogger is wondering how one should pull off a sensible oauth token storage if fancy ubuntuone uses two realms and realms are the only somewhat unique identifier [09:15] brrrrrrr [10:15] so [10:15] who wants to write a Kubuntu team report? [10:17] * apachelogger looks at ulysses [10:18] apachelogger: for what? [10:19] apachelogger: just read dholbach's e-mail and still none the wiser what it's for [10:19] community building [10:19] stop for a minute and look how awesome we are by reflecting our archivements of the near past [10:19] * apachelogger doesnt know no other use to team reports than that ^^ [10:20] "To ensure the wider Ubuntu community knows what different people are working, teams are expected to provide short monthly reports of what they are working on. This helps us all know what the project as a whole is working on. " [10:20] there [10:20] community building :P [10:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports [10:21] Riddell: so I threw a kwallet patch at the desktopcouch people and hope they will do something good with it [10:21] will do the same for the u1 syncdaemon in a bit [10:22] apachelogger: me?:o [10:22] also I discovered that we now have ubuntu-sso, which is ubuntuone-login rebranded and with different dbus interface (of course not maintaining compability...) [10:23] so I started overriding that with the same name using my ubuntuone-auth, which is in pretty good shape again and should work just fine [10:24] apachelogger: apparantly there's only two weeks until suggested pencil's down [10:24] well, suggested is suggested so that one week is left for documentation and stuff ... which is produced on the fly here anyway [10:26] Riddell: once I have landed my patches for u1 and desktopcouch and got things to work on maverick we can go into proper alpha + api revu + string revu + translation [10:28] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100726092750-tkw3uu1gvt62r95r * src/com.ubuntu.sso.service.in update service file [10:28] ulysses: sure, why not? ;) [10:28] I'm only a translator:( [10:29] ulysses: is that a problem? [10:31] let me read dholbach's mail [10:48] apachelogger: a link to the mail? [10:48] ulysses: he just asked councils to keep on getting reports [10:48] nothing worth reading really :) [10:59] ubuntu-sso's heap is smaller than libqca ^^ [11:14] * apachelogger finds qoauth's internal design as weird as the external one :S [11:31] apachelogger: ping [11:34] jussi: my mosquito bites are getting worse! [11:34] jussi: pongo [11:34] Riddell: aww [11:34] apachelogger: so... kubotu. and fluffy website... [11:35] like I said... going away [11:35] Ive still got all your data, just need to move it somewhere [11:36] but where ^^ [11:39] apachelogger: up to you... [11:40] fluffy can probably go to ubottu.com, but I need to talk with tsimpson about whether kubotu can go there [11:41] I have extremely limited net atm, so Im not able to do much [11:44] apachelogger: oh, and quickly, dent while kubotu is here :D [11:46] ohhh [11:46] kubotu: identica dent @jussi01 is taking away my only gateway to identica :( [11:46] status updated [11:46] lol [11:47] jussi: well, it would be good to have it on ubottu.com because I am not terribly good at finding hosting resources ;) [11:47] apachelogger: Ill see what we can do. [11:47] we have like 7 bots on there already... [11:47] kthx [11:47] ...I think fregl could surely find fluffy a new home... [11:48] trololol [11:48] apachelogger: do you need a shell for bot? [11:48] apachelogger: fluffy can be on that machine, it doesnt eat that much [11:48] Quintasan: very much so [11:48] jussi: not yet ;) [11:48] I think it might already be synced, I just havent pointed addresses there yet [11:48] I'm writing from a one, I can't guarantee it is 100% stable but it worked so far [11:49] so, I think I could host it here [11:49] ahhh [11:49] rekonq was eating half my cpu [11:49] how jolly nice of it [11:49] apachelogger: give me a couple of days and we can check resources with tsimpson [11:49] * Quintasan wonder why ubuntu won't provide shells for that [11:49] * apachelogger hugs jussi [11:49] s/ubuntu/canonical [11:50] Quintasan: security [11:50] Quintasan: they do, but no root :P [11:50] same reason we cannot put up a new version of our own site -.- [11:50] :/ [11:51] anyway, I need to go, so if you need kubotu, use it now... [11:52] no need here [11:52] I dented what I had to dent :P [12:29] nice: http://kde-look.org/poll/index.php?poll=256 [12:57] today's daily CD in a decent state [12:57] and now I have working backtraces, yay! [13:04] now let's just see if I can get rekonq to crash [13:35] [muon] jmthomas * 1154874 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/main.cpp Use the legally-binding copyright symbol rather than (c) [13:41] JontheEchidna: nice poll :) [13:41] JontheEchidna: is kubuntu_91_phonon_forget_option.diff upstream? or making its way therre? [13:41] :) [13:41] Riddell: ripped it from opensuse, let me see if their diff header had anything on whether or not it would be upstreamed [13:42] (some of their headers do) [13:42] JontheEchidna: probably sandsmark is the chap to ask [13:44] Signed-off-by: Lubos Lunak [13:44] Patch-upstream: no (maybe later) [13:44] curious [13:45] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609396 [13:45] bugzilla.novell.com bug 609396 in KDE4 Workspace "Removed Sound Devices dialogue haunts roaming users" [Major,Closed: fixed] [13:46] looks like the plan to upstream it, but haven't [13:46] no reason we can't beat them to the punch I suppose ;) [14:00] hmm, I still get pinentry popping up under all my other windows by taking the key input [14:01] uh [14:01] --> shadeslayer_ (~shadeslay@ubuntu/member/shadeslayer) has joined #kubuntu-devel [14:01] * Topic for #kubuntu-devel is "Kubuntu, making your PC friendly | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Kubuntu Meeting, Monday 19:00UTC, #ubuntu-meeting | http://tinyurl.com/28vjuea | KDE 4.5 Packaging https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging" [14:01] * Topic set by shadeslayer!~shadeslay@ubuntu/member/shadeslayer on Sat Jul 24 08:52:40 2010 [14:01] wth [14:02] ohhhhh i see [14:02] nvm === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [14:03] Riddell: sandsmark has a better approach that I am following. I think we have won some "points" by asking and such :) [14:03] JontheEchidna: score :) [14:10] do we need council quorum at the meeting? [14:10] another rc? [14:10] :S [14:10] !agenda [14:10] Sorry, I don't know anything about agenda [14:10] !meeting [14:10] Kubuntu Meetings are usually held in #ubuntu-meeting - Agenda and info: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [14:11] Quintasan: eh? [14:12] rekonq defaults? what does that mean :P [14:12] and.. just fyi... i think we should set the home page as the kubuntu site i.e kubuntu.org [14:13] in rekonq that is [14:13] aha [14:13] * apachelogger better stays in upper austria and attends the meeting than travel to graz [14:13] :S [14:13] * shadeslayer pokes ttf-mscorefonts-installer with kubuntu stick of doom [14:13] * apachelogger could try tomorrow morning [14:14] shadeslayer: are you doing those packages? [14:14] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [14:14] Quintasan: arent you doing some too? [14:14] and yes im working on kdebase [14:14] I did libs and had to go [14:16] frickin stupid uni [14:16] wants Times New Roman in report :/ [14:17] did someone sync plasma-widget-fastuserswitch ? [14:18] bug 609448 [14:18] Launchpad bug 609448 in Ubuntu "Sync plasma-widget-fastuserswitch 0.2.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609448 [14:21] ohhhhhhhhhhhh [14:21] QUrl is supreme! [14:22] Quintasan: also i is sick [14:23] shadeslayer: only canonical sysadmins can IRc [14:23] IIRC even [14:23] :( [14:24] Riddell's archive day is tommorrow, he'll probably get around to syncing it then. (especially if you ask nicely :) [14:25] JontheEchidna: he already has it noted.... [14:25] Riddell: right ^ [14:26] sf is slooooooowwwww [14:27] apachelogger: re konqueror + webkit, not that I know of. [14:28] * apachelogger sees a way to not have crashy browsers but at the same time make use of webkitness then ;) [14:29] btw... should i invite someone from rekonq team ? [14:29] apachelogger: oh, those two reports you made to b.k.o the other day against rekonq turned out to be KIO problems that should be fixed in RC3 [14:29] hehe :P [14:29] yaya [14:29] grrr [14:29] still eats more RAMz [14:29] kdelibs svn is still not fixxxord [14:29] nom nom [14:29] :/// [14:29] shadeslayer: We need to know if there's reasonable hope it'll get a lot less crashy very quickly. [14:29] and eat less RAMz [14:29] ok [14:30] They don't need to come to the meeting. [14:30] apachelogger: The crashing solves that. [14:30] hahaha [14:30] lol [14:30] all your RAM are belongs to nepomuk, akonoadi, desktopcouch and amarok [14:30] Cookies for ScottK [14:30] ScottK: you made snot come out my nose :P [14:30] Excellent. [14:31] Everything according to the plan! [14:34] Why isnt cdbs pulled by -dev-tools? [14:34] In lucid at least [14:34] JontheEchidna: we shall pray to god that all crashes I get are of the kio kind [14:34] crash counter is now at 30 [14:35] apachelogger: :o [14:35] btw [14:35] is there a tool to remove all hyperlinks from a doc? [14:35] like i copy paste some stuff into OOo [14:36] brr.. nvm.. seems my logic worked [14:36] shadeslayer: I hope that you realise we are stalled until we can find a fix for that python crap? [14:36] :P [14:36] Quintasan: i know [14:36] * shadeslayer is counting on apachelogger/python dev to fix [14:36] Quintasan: your time to rant [14:37] i did it last time [14:37] I hoped on pulling some strings first [14:37] ;) [14:37] shadeslayer: I am no pyth0rn haxx0r [14:37] Quintasan: no one loves neon... were orphaned [14:37] Quintasan: Because CDBS is entirely avoidable and so there's no reason to punish someone by installing it if they've managed not to need it. [14:38] I am the one who rewrites pyth0rn in superior Qt [14:38] superior Qt where QUrl returns QList > for no good reason [14:38] > QList > [14:39] this calls for some banhammer [14:39] what an abomination [14:39] actually it is a beauty [14:39] just not very handy [14:40] Quintasan: our new default image viewing app for kubuntu 10.10 : http://imgur.com/CCMrp [14:41] why so simple? [14:41] :< [14:41] id like to keep it simple [14:41] also image path is hardcoded [14:41] :P [14:41] * Quintasan <3 gwneview [14:41] gwenview* [14:42] Quintasan: my app takes up <5 MB [14:42] can gwenview do that ? [14:42] :P [14:43] bulldog98: where did you put your kdevelop-php package? [14:44] oh oh .. was kdevplatform sponsored? [14:46] JontheEchidna: thanks for ack [14:47] by the supremacy of QtI made http://paste.ubuntu.com/469348/ into http://paste.ubuntu.com/469350/ [14:48] hmm [14:48] did I break kde-sc-dev-latest? [14:50] Quintasan: i uploaded that package [14:50] kde-sc-dev-latest: Breaks: kdepimlibs5-dev (< 4:4.4.95) but 4:4.4.92-0ubuntu1 is to be installed. [14:50] you uploaded a new one? [14:51] apparently not... [14:51] Quintasan: which means you need to uploade kdepimlibs [14:51] *upload [14:51] man, you are giving me additional work [14:51] :P [14:51] hehe [14:51] Quintasan: switch machines and i can do kdepimlibs [14:51] shadeslayer: I hope you aren't serious about replacing Gwenview. That's pretty much not going to happen. [14:52] ScottK: hah... you took that seriously .. lol [14:52] the buttons dont even work [14:52] thats just my Qt test app [14:53] OK. Just making sure. [14:56] apachelogger: i haz gnome klippy http://imgur.com/lUoCG [14:58] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100726135811-smlih2mit5c7c5tr * src/ (AccessToken.cpp AccessToken.h AuthHandler.cpp HttpDaemon.cpp) more performance, less heap, more reliable, more generic, simply put more awesome [14:59] shadeslayer: that aint got notthing to do with gnome but sun [14:59] let the sun shine [14:59] still looks gnomeish [14:59] leeeeet the sun shine [14:59] llala [14:59] shadeslayer: that is cause it is tha gtk plus [15:00] * shadeslayer thinks he should pop some more pills to make the pain go away [15:01] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100726140114-fa88qy7gkdyv490a * src/AccessToken.cpp all your RAM are belong to my memleaks! [15:03] shadeslayer: kubotu got good ones, if only that poor bugger were around [15:03] hm [15:03] there is still a memleak [15:03] odd [15:03] * apachelogger fires up the valgrind [15:03] apachelogger: how does you detect memleaks? [15:03] with the valgrind [15:03] or by looking at the codez [15:05] kwave needs porting to Qt 4.7: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52468474/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.kwave_0.8.5-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [15:07] if only i could codez [15:07] and had time to codez [15:07] apachelogger: hahaha... imageview : http://pastebin.ca/1908571 [15:08] ( thats what im calling my app :P ) [15:08] gah [15:08] pornviewer? [15:08] whut? :P [15:11] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/k1S8F5UV [15:12] just 996 bytes... bytes [15:12] NC|Alaska: Vacation or work? Any chance you can fix kde4libs soon? [15:13] oh goody.. kdebase is borked http://pastebin.com/LQkryepR [15:13] runtime [15:15] uh oh [15:15] * shadeslayer thought he fix0red the patch [15:16] shadeslayer: no no it can be any between 996 and 90k [15:16] also if every KDE dev would say "just 996 bytes" your system would be eaten in less than 5 minutes after boot :P [15:18] ok suppose i fixed a patch with quilt edit file.cpp and then did quilt refresh, what do i do to save the patch? or did quilt refresh do that? [15:19] * apachelogger thinks that there is some flux that causes ubuntu-sso to appear leaking but in fact it does not [15:19] shadeslayer: quilt refresh did update the patch on the top of the applied stack [15:19] shadeslayer: uploaded kdepimlibs [15:20] cool [15:21] my ubuntu-sso is consuming 1180 if not doing anything (of which the biggest part is libqca just for the record ;)) [15:21] the pyth0rn thing consumes 8928 doing nothing [15:23] apachelogger: dude how do you pass valgrind log to kcachegrind? [15:26] nvm [15:29] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/hvwLX1hW << does that look right? [15:30] regarding this http://pastebin.com/LQkryepR [15:32] shadeslayer: whate are you trying to fix there? Oo [15:32] apachelogger: i had to refresh the patch [15:32] kubuntu_89_strigi_ram_detection.diff [15:32] why? [15:33] the error you pasted is because it cannot find the KIdleTime header [15:33] ../../../../nepomuk/services/strigi/strigiservice.cpp:31:21: error: KIdleTime: No such file or directory [15:33] supposedly strigiservice.cpp holds #include at that line [15:33] (btw, that patch can go now that we are disabling strigi outright) [15:33] ScottK: I've uploaded kde4libs to the arm PPA, hopefully my patch does the right thing [15:33] i had to refresh patch since it did not apply [15:33] NC|Alaska: ^^ [15:34] JontheEchidna: can it? [15:34] yes, delete it [15:34] whee [15:36] JontheEchidna: is it possible to get debuild to install the deps itself? [15:36] I don't think so [15:37] Riddell: Cool. [15:37] shadeslayer: apt-get build-dep. [15:37] of course :S [15:37] ScottK++ [15:40] Riddell: Clearly we can't have rekonq for Maverick. Upstream is not supporting Qt 4.7/KDE 4.5. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239005#c1 [15:40] KDE bug 239005 in general "rekonq crash when closing tabs" [Crash,Resolved: invalid] [15:40] shadeslayer: ^^^ I think rekonq is out. [15:40] aww [15:41] ScottK: works for me too [15:42] 0_o [15:42] I don't see we have much of a choice. [15:43] :( [15:44] Riddell: u1 syncd patch also thrown at appropriate people [15:44] ScottK: we need to check if that'll change for rekonq 1.0 but yeah it's not looking good [15:45] shadeslayer: the rekonq bugs are thread related and don't seem to be easily reproducable with given circumstances, but they do occur too frequently to be shippable [15:45] :( [15:53] [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100726145249-4didkyg4tw1ks81f * src/AccessToken.cpp proxy support [16:17] Riddell: btw, will it be possible to ship konqueror with webkitpart [16:19] shadeslayer: it's an option, it would need people to look into it and see if it's stable and the konqueror config dialogue actually does want it says [16:21] ok... but its really a shame.... someone who tries kubuntu for the first time, cant browse sites properly with konqueror [16:24] I failed :S [16:24] uploaded without ~ppa1 [16:24] grrr [16:25] Quintasan: hehe [16:25] runtim is still building [16:25] setting up cowbuilder side by side [16:27] lol [16:27] I even uploaded to neon [16:28] stupid aliases [16:28] I need to clean this crap [16:29] Quintasan: whut :P [16:29] why on earth delete packages disappered [16:30] * Quintasan needs to type url by hand [16:35] shadeslayer: So all we need is a Qt webkit browser that's suitable. [16:36] yep [16:36] * ScottK tried arora again and it seems somewhat functional, but slow. [16:36] It is at least less crashy than rekonq. [16:36] ScottK: if we switch to konqueror.. i beg of you... use webkitpart [16:36] I tell you [16:36] konqueror + webkitpart [16:36] = win [16:36] shadeslayer: How does one set the up for testing? [16:36] apachelogger: ^^^? [16:36] it works with facebook? [16:37] ScottK: quit easy [16:37] Quintasan: yeah [16:37] shadeslayer: How, not how hard is it. [16:37] Quintasan: it is kwebkit in konqueror [16:37] ScottK: install kpart-webkit [16:37] ScottK: sudo aptitude install webkitkde [16:37] urgh [16:37] shadeslayer: that's for maverick? :P [16:37] Which? [16:37] webkitpart is not an option, as it causes half of the options in konqueror to become ineffective, due to their integration with the KHTML part [16:37] * ScottK is asking for Maverick. [16:37] you get all the benefits of long serving allandeverything browser and the super fast webkittens [16:38] ScottK: then disregard mine [16:38] Thanks. [16:38] ScottK: then keditfiletype text/html [16:38] JontheEchidna: better than crashy crashy bang bang still [16:38] then embedding tab > move webkitpart to top [16:38] * apachelogger does think we should use flipping firefox though [16:39] do not even consider this [16:39] * ScottK likes Chromium, but it's not suitable for Main, really. [16:39] I call it FaggotFox [16:39] apachelogger: ^ [16:39] ScottK: yeah chromium++ [16:39] too bad it cant go to main [16:41] Quintasan: Not funny nor suitable for the channel. [16:43] JontheEchidna: What is it you're worried about not working right with the webkit part? [16:43] i was about to ask that :P [16:43] ScottK: I was referring to the program itself, not to users [16:43] ScottK: half of the options in Konqueror's config dialog are tied to KHTML, and don't affect the webkit part [16:43] ScottK: so switching to webkit part "breaks" these options, in effect. [16:43] Quintasan: I understand, it's still not appropriate language for the channel. [16:44] JontheEchidna: I see. [16:45] http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/extragear/base/kwebkitpart/TODO [16:45] shadeslayer: fix'd kdepimlibs upload [16:45] k [16:45] at the bottom is stuff that is in khtml but not the kpart [16:45] JontheEchidna: Of the webkit options I see available, it seems to suck the least. [16:45] That's based on ~5 miuntes of testing. [16:45] * apachelogger is listening to DRS 1 ^^ [16:46] the beauty of the intarwebs ^^ [16:46] DRS? [16:46] Can we hide the options that are tied to khtml so we at least aren't misleading? [16:46] then khtml users wouldn't be able to use them either, unless they can conditionally be loaded [16:46] True. [16:47] Plus, from what I read I conclude that we would hide MANY options [16:47] Quintasan: swiss german radio [16:47] oh [16:48] Konqueror + webkit does pass the facebook test. [16:48] ScottK: try going to youtube.com. I get an instacrash with webkit [16:48] JontheEchidna: why did muon fail in k-n ppa? [16:48] JontheEchidna: works here fine [16:48] Quintasan: oh, you can just delete that. It's a bad tarball [16:48] Quintasan: with konqueror + webkit? [16:48] on 10.10? [16:48] JontheEchidna: Facebook IS the internet. Don't you know that? [16:48] heh [16:49] JontheEchidna: on 10.04 [16:49] ohhh [16:49] I'd imagine it'd crash on facebook too, seeing as it's a flash crash [16:49] youtube crash [16:49] is that reproducable :D [16:49] Not yet. [16:49]