[00:54] <un214> now I'm finding all kinds of crazy packaging bugs that only happen when the system lives in a chroot jail
[00:55] <un214> some of these also affect system rescue scenarios
[05:48] <pitti> Good morning
[05:59] <TheMuso> c
[06:13] <vorian> moses, it's still night here
[07:07] <dholbach> good morning
[07:16] <bilalakhtar> dholbach: good morning
[07:17] <dholbach> hey bilalakhtar
[08:36] <mantiena-baltix> ev: hi
[08:52] <doko> ogra, ScottK: OOo still hasn't sane build-deps. kde4libs did fail to build with an error in a qt4 header
[09:15] <mantiena-baltix> ev: are you Evan Dandrea ?
[09:19] <mantiena-baltix> Anybody can tell me what should I do to fix bug #606134 before Ubuntu 10.04.1 ?
[09:20] <mantiena-baltix> There is a branch with updated translations already, see
[09:20] <mantiena-baltix> lp:~dylanmccall/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/lucid-bug-606134
[09:20] <mantiena-baltix> Ready for review for merging into lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/lucid
[09:20] <mantiena-baltix>     Ubiquity Slideshow: Pending requested 2010-07-19
[09:22] <mantiena-baltix> Who should review this and who can merge into official lucid package ?
[09:22] <dpm> mantiena-baltix, ev or cjwatson might be able to tell you more about it. I'm not sure if they're in yet, so please be patient while waiting for a response. thanks! :)
[09:32] <mantiena-baltix> dpm: ok, I will wait ev or cjwatson
[09:33] <bilalakhtar> dpm: Are you a core-dev? Are you free ?
[09:34] <dpm> bilalakhtar, I'm not a core dev, I simply coordinate Ubuntu translations
[09:34] <bilalakhtar> dpm: aha
[09:47] <LucidFox> Are there any plans to make the Software Center, rather than Synaptic, the default handler for apt: links?
[09:53] <mvo> LucidFox: yes
[09:53] <LucidFox> In maverick, or maverick+1, or...?
[09:57] <mvo> LucidFox: the goal is maverick
[09:58] <LucidFox> Gewd!
[10:01] <mantiena-baltix> dpm: I must go away for 2 hours, could you tell ev or cjwatson about bug #606134 when they come back?
[10:03] <dpm> mantiena-baltix, you can still remind them when you're back, don't worry. I'm a bit busy right now, and I cannot guarantee I'll remember in 2 hours
[10:04] <mantiena-baltix> dpm: maybe ev or cjwatson will come back quicker than 2 hours ;)
[10:14] <mvo> did anyone has ldtp working inside a xvfb-run environment? I struggle with that and wonder if I miss something obvious (starting at-spi-registryd manually has not helped)
[11:35] <mantiena-baltix> ev: hi, are you online?
[14:07] <dpm> hey mvo, I hope you had a nice trip back home. You told me I should remind you of updating the ddtp translations for 10.04.1, so here's the reminder :)
[14:09] <dpm> mvo, I've also got a couple of questions: 1) What's the 'packages' template here -> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ddtp-ubuntu/ubuntu/+lang/fr? 2) Would it be possible to have an update of aptdaemon with only translations? If I'm not mistaken, that's the package that contains the .policy strings shown in SC when installing a package. They are quite visible, but they are not supported in language packs, translations need to be rebuilt with the p
[14:09] <dpm> ackage
[15:17] <chrisccoulson> pitti - would you mind accepting the firefox binaries? (it's sat in NEW atm)
[15:22] <pitti> chrisccoulson: done
[15:22] <chrisccoulson> pitti -thanks
[15:24] <chrisccoulson> pitti - i've just seen how big the breakpad symbols that i need to push to mozilla are
[15:24] <chrisccoulson> that's going to be painful when i'm doing it for the daily builds too ;)
[15:25] <pitti> chrisccoulson: do you need to?
[15:25] <pitti> chrisccoulson: anyway, the upload should happen from chinstrap
[15:26] <chrisccoulson> pitti - yeah, that's the biggest benefit (so mozilla can spot issues before they actually do a release)
[15:26] <pitti> chrisccoulson: sounds like some shell scriptery and a cronjob might be helpful then
[15:26] <pitti> i. e. remember which one you sent last, check the current version, and upload it there if there's a new one
[15:27] <chrisccoulson> pitti - yeah, i'll try and look at that this afternoon and see if i can make something which works
[15:35] <slangasek> doko: I have some doubts about the interaction between gcc-multiarch.diff and biarch architectures; is that something we could talk about, or do I need to track down Arthur?
[16:51] <mvo> dpm: weh, thanks! it was a bit busy today, I put it on my list for tomorrow
[16:52] <mvo> dpm: re aptdaemon> do you mean for 10.04.1 ?
[16:52] <dpm> mvo, no worries, thanks for coming back to me!
[16:53] <dpm> mvo, yes (or post-10.04.1 if that's no longer possible)
[16:54] <mvo> dpm: I think it still is, I just wanted to make sure. I will also need to manually get the latest po files from LP. right?
[16:55] <dpm> mvo, yes, you'll need the latest translations from LP and rebuild the package with them, only then the translated .policy files for the languages which did not make it for the pre-release Lucid translation deadline will be built
[16:56] <mvo> ok
[16:56] <mvo> thanks dpm
[16:57] <dpm> no worries, thanks to you. mvo, and what's the new 'packages' template on https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ddtp-ubuntu/ubuntu/+lang/fr?
[17:02] <mvo> dpm: uh, that looks like a error, I am not sure where it comes from
[17:02] <mvo> dpm: can I delete it again?
[17:02] <mvo> dpm: can you :) ?
[17:07] <dpm> mvo, let me see if I can disable the template
[17:10] <dpm> mvo, ok, sorted. I've disabled the 'packages' template and it is no longer visible in LP. It seemed to came from a packages.pot upload
[17:10] <mvo> thanks dpm
[17:11] <mvo> dpm: probably my mistake, it would not take my automatic curl based pot uploads recently for some reason
[17:11] <mvo> dpm: so I did a maual upload, probably that broke it
[17:12] <dpm> no worries :)
[18:03] <froud> Anyone know where the users last session type is stored?
[18:09] <ansgar> froud: Something like ~/.dmrc?
[18:09] <froud> thx
[18:45] <EtienneG> hey guys.  Is the "Essential: yes" actually being used for something meaningful in Ubuntu?  I noticed some pretty important packages, such as upstart, are not being flagged essential.  I was wondering if/when it was appropriate to use it.
[18:51] <EtienneG> slangasek, I understand you are the original (and current maintainer?) of auth-client-config and pam-auth-update.  I reported bug #608930, about libnss-ldap and libpam-ldap being indirectly coupled together.  I have a case where I do not want libpam-ldap, I want libnss-ldap + libpam-krb5.  This bug is not a show-stopper, but it is complicating setup.  If you have a sec, can you have a look and advise on whether a relevant bug that should b
[18:51] <EtienneG> e "fixed", and if not, how to work around it?
[18:57] <slangasek> EtienneG: I have never been a maintainer of auth-client-config; you want jdstrand
[18:57] <EtienneG> slangasek, ah, sorry about.  But you are the author of pam-auth-update, correct?
[18:57] <slangasek> EtienneG: the only changes I made to auth-client-config were to detach it from pam config when pam-auth-update went live
[18:58] <slangasek> correct - but that doesn't much help you with the LDAP packages, which I don't understand deeply :)
[18:58] <slangasek> as for Essential: yes, it *is* used with the same meaning as in Debian
[18:59] <slangasek> see debian-policy for the meaning :)
[19:00] <EtienneG> slangasek, ok and understood about the lib(pam|nss)-ldap problem.  i will poke the server team about it, as I think they are the one looking after it (although it might just be the foundation team now)
[19:01] <EtienneG> slangasek, I have looked at the Debian policy, and it is not quite clear how it is being interpreted, and by what.  Does it impact the way APT/dpkg works?  Is there a command to display all packages tagged Essential?  (apt-cache doesn't do it, it seems)
[19:02] <slangasek> EtienneG: the package manager uses Essential to determine correct handling of upgrades
[19:02] <slangasek> and use of the field imposes certain requirements on the packages that declare it
[19:03] <slangasek> display all packages: grep-available -sPackage -FEssential yes
[19:04] <EtienneG> slangasek, thanks a bunch for the information!
[19:04] <slangasek> sure :)
[19:22] <smoser> cjwatson, ping.
[19:36] <kelelsai> hi, I'm new here. I missed the section or documentation that says where to get the code from to Fix bugs. Does anyone here know the link that references how to do so?
[19:54] <Teodora> does anyone know how to watch a blue ray files in ubuntu 10.04?
[19:56] <micahg> !support | Teodora
[19:56] <Teodora> ok sorry
[19:56] <Teodora> :)
[20:07] <sladen> kelelsai: type   apt-get source $name_of_package
[20:48] <fta> kirkland, /wrt your last blog entry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/469493/  (thanks for the idea btw)
[20:49] <kirkland> fta: you're welcome ;-)
[20:53] <fta> *csh could be tricky with $ and "
[23:48] <philsf> Everytime I boot my netbook, the bluetooth applet is on. I'd expect it to remember the last state. Is this a bug, or am I missing something?