[00:37] <JoeMaverickSett> micahg, didn't see your message till now, was sleeping. thanks for the tip, i'll try it out.
[08:16] <SuSEno> hi, can I get some help about firefox installation on my ubuntu?
[08:16] <SuSEno> I am installing firefox daily updates from ppa  and I wanna back to firefox stable channel
[08:17] <SuSEno> how to do that?
[08:18] <micahg> SuSEno: comment out the daily ppa in your sources
[08:18] <micahg> SuSEno: then downgrade to the stable version
[08:18] <SuSEno> you mean on /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:18] <micahg> SuSEno: if that's where you put it
[08:20] <SuSEno> previously I added this two lines in /etc/apt/sources.list:
[08:20] <SuSEno> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[08:20] <SuSEno> and this:
[08:20] <SuSEno> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[08:20] <micahg> SuSEno: yeah, so comment out, then update and downgrade to the version in -updates
[08:21] <SuSEno> okay
[08:21] <SuSEno> I comment it then add this new two lines
[08:21] <SuSEno> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu jaunty main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu jaunty main
[08:22] <SuSEno> but when I do updates using Updates Manager there's no downgrade option
[08:22] <SuSEno> -_-"
[08:22]  * micahg doesn't know how to do it with software center or synaptic, I use aptitude
[08:23] <SuSEno> :)
[08:23] <SuSEno> it's okay. I'll try
[08:23] <micahg> SuSEno: you can also do sudo apt-get install firefox=3.6.7+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1
[08:24] <SuSEno> seems that Firefox 3.6.9pre has a bug on Facebook page
[08:25] <SuSEno> did you notice it?
[08:25]  * micahg doesn't use facebook
[08:25] <SuSEno> =.=
[08:28] <micahg> SuSEno: you can report the bug if you want, there shouldn't be big regressions in the dailies
[08:29] <SuSEno> yeah, it's the daily builds. No wonder if there's a bug
[08:30] <SuSEno> I believe they already know  ;)
[08:30] <micahg> SuSEno: if you're sure
[08:30] <SuSEno> I think it's a little bug
[08:31] <SuSEno> the chat box on facebook doesn't appear in this firefox daily builds
[08:32] <SuSEno> css error or somewhat when I read the Error message
[08:32] <fishor> hallo all, are here any ff packagers? are there any reasons to pack xulrunner without yusm?
[08:32] <fishor> s/yusm/yasm
[08:34] <fishor> it has a big performance difference.
[08:40] <micahg> fishor: I'm not exactly sure what that is, can you file a bug against xulrunner-1.9.2 explaining the benefits?  or wait a couple hours for chrisccoulson and ask him :)
[08:42] <fishor> i didn't tested 1.9.2, is is more about 2.0 so i didn't found place to fill the bag in
[08:43] <SuSEno> hey micahg,  I found there's aptitude on my Ubuntu
[08:43] <SuSEno> can you explain me how to use aptitude?
[08:43] <SuSEno> to downgrade my firefox
[08:43] <fishor> SuSEno: just start aptitude
[08:43] <fishor> for serach use "/"
[08:43] <SuSEno> yup
[08:43] <fishor> find firefox
[08:44] <SuSEno> Okay
[08:44] <fishor> press enter
[08:44] <SuSEno> yup
[08:44] <SuSEno> it's found
[08:44] <SuSEno> and then...?
[08:44] <fishor> enter
[08:44] <fishor> there is description and ...
[08:44] <SuSEno> Description: bla bla bla
[08:44] <SuSEno> Priority bla bla bla
[08:45] <fishor> git to the bottom
[08:45] <fishor> there is differen available vesrions of package
[08:45] <SuSEno> 3.6.9~hg20100723....
[08:46] <fishor> any other?
[08:46] <SuSEno> 3.6.7+build2
[08:46] <SuSEno> 3.0.8-nobinonly
[08:46] <fishor> so you need some thing more stable ?
[08:46] <SuSEno> yes
[08:46] <fishor> tacke this 3.6.7+build2
[08:46] <SuSEno> but not too old
[08:47] <SuSEno> maybe the 3.6.8 that was officially released 3 days abo
[08:47] <fishor> just press "+"
[08:47] <micahg> fishor: I think the answer is I need to modify our packaging
[08:47] <SuSEno> maybe the 3.6.8 that was officially released 3 days ago
[08:48] <micahg> SuSEno: 3.6.8 is in firefox-stable, but won't be in -updates until later today most likely
[08:48] <micahg> fishor: re yasm, did you just add the build-dep or were there patches needed?
[08:48] <SuSEno> i see
[08:48] <SuSEno> so 3.6.7 seems good idea
[08:49] <fishor> micahg: no patches needed
[08:49] <fishor> i just installed yasm to the sustem and config used it
[08:49] <SuSEno> okay i press "+"
[08:49] <micahg> fishor: k, can you just send me an email then, my nick at ubuntu dot com, and I'll try to update it this week, upstream is building with it
[08:49] <fishor> SuSEno: then "g" to apply changes
[08:49] <SuSEno> +30.2 MB
[08:49] <SuSEno> -30.6 MB
[08:50] <SuSEno> Some packages were broken and have been fixed:
[08:50] <SuSEno> Keep the following packages at their current version
[08:50]  * micahg needs to go to sleep, will be back in about 7 hrs
[08:51] <SuSEno> firefox [3.6.9 hg ..... ]
[08:51] <SuSEno> Score is 120
[08:51] <SuSEno> thanks for your help micahg
[08:51] <SuSEno> you are a great firefox hacker
[08:51] <SuSEno> ;)
[08:51] <micahg> SuSEno: np
[09:11] <fishor> SuSEno: so, do you get it?
[09:12] <SuSEno> yep
[09:12] <fishor> great
[09:13] <SuSEno> it's not successful with aptitude. I don't know why, maybe I ommit sudo command
[09:13] <SuSEno> I manage to use graphical way: Synaptic
[09:14] <SuSEno> and now it's changing back to 3.6.7  ;)
[09:14] <fishor> ok, by aptitude you do not need sudo. after you press two times "g" you'll be transferred to root
[09:14] <fishor> :D
[09:14] <SuSEno> by the way, how many package manager ubuntu have?
[09:19] <fishor> there is core managment and different frontend
[09:19] <fishor> dpkg work direct with packages, apt work with package sources
[09:19] <fishor> all other like aptitide, synaptic, dselect are just frontends
[09:20] <SuSEno> i see
[09:20] <SuSEno> I usually use Synaptic
[09:20] <SuSEno> never get rid with dpkg or apt
[09:22] <SuSEno> it's 1 MB remaining  (Synaptic is still downloading 3.6.7 firefox version)
[09:22] <SuSEno> damn my slow internet connection
[09:22] <SuSEno> :(
[09:30] <SuSEno> it works
[09:31] <SuSEno> Firefox 3.6.7 display facebook chat box correctly
[09:31] <SuSEno> :-)
[09:31] <SuSEno> I'm gonna back to works
[09:34] <SuSEno> thanks for all your help
[11:16] <fishor> hallo all, do any body know how to find what is some memory adress?
[11:18] <fishor> for example i use perf to trace usage for some app. and get some adresses without library or function name
[11:19] <fishor> so i wont to find what is loaded at address 0x007f746bdf38a1
[11:19] <fishor> any tips?
[14:50] <tbsdy> hi folks... I was wondering if there is an easy way of reporting a launchpad bug upstream to the mozilla folks
[14:50] <tbsdy> problem is that I can reproduce the problem, but only if I restore my old profile, which I've kept a backup of
[14:51] <tbsdy> basically sqlite keeps crashing firefox 3.6.7 every 3 minutes or so
[14:51] <tbsdy> Bug is at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/610039
[14:51] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 610039 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in sqlite3VdbeExec() (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,New]
[14:52] <tbsdy> obviously I'm not particularly crash hot on providing my mozilla profile to just anyone :-)
[14:52] <tbsdy> but I'm fairly certain that this would be reproducible on demand if a dev loaded up the profile
[14:53] <gavin> you can file a bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Toolkit&component=Storage
[14:53] <tbsdy> thanks... is there anything in that ubuntu bug I should be moving over to the mozilla bug tracking system?
[14:54] <gavin> the stack traces, I suppose
[14:56] <tbsdy> cheers - will do
[14:56] <tbsdy> thanks gavin
[14:57] <tbsdy> sorry, not particularly experienced with this sort of thing!
[14:57] <JoeMaverickSett> tbsdy, no worries. you doing good anyways. ;) cheers!
[14:58] <tbsdy> thanks JoeMaverickSett :-)
[14:59] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: hey. so I tested ff/xul on i386 and they seem good. I plan to test amd64 and then publish. are you satisfied with those builds?
[15:00] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, i've not had a chance to test them properly yet (i've been trying to debug a build failure on maverick atm)
[15:04] <tbsdy> out of interest... what's the difference between a stacktrace and a thread stacktrace?
[15:09] <micahg> hi chrisccoulson
[15:09] <chrisccoulson> hi micahg
[15:10] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I have the enigmail SRU ready, I"ll upload the debdiff now
[15:10] <chrisccoulson> micahg - awesome, thanks
[15:11] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, i'm just going through my bug-mail, and there's a couple of people experiencing the file conflict with firefox-2 on karmic that we had in hardy
[15:11] <micahg> I saw that too, that's weird, I thought that package was removed in intrepid
[15:11] <chrisccoulson> i didn't think we'd see that, as firefox-2 isn't shipped in those releases, but users still have the version from hardy installed
[15:11] <tbsdy> OK reported to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581946
[15:11] <ubot2`> Mozilla bug 581946 in Storage "Firefox segfaulting every 3 minutes or so at sqlite3VdbeExec in sqlite3.c:54321" [Major,Unconfirmed]
[15:11] <tbsdy> thanks all for your help
[15:12] <chrisccoulson> micahg - it was removed, but there's nothing forcing the removal during the upgrade
[15:12] <chrisccoulson> (it seems that we only have the conflicts/replaces in lucid)
[15:13] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yeah, I guess it wasn't cleaned up in Intrepid
[15:13]  * micahg wonders why it's not seen on Jaunty
[15:14] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure. i suspect that the karmic user is just someone that upgraded from hardy at some point and they used firefox-2 there
[15:19] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: looking at the vuln, we need to move on this fix in 3.6.8. since those are already regressed and the current binaries are tested, we should publish
[15:20] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: we can fix the firefox-2 in a separate upload for karmic if you want
[15:20] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand - i agree, we should probably publish those now
[15:20] <chrisccoulson> i'm not too concerned about the firefox-2 issue, as the number of users experiencing it will be pretty minimal
[15:20] <chrisccoulson> i can fix that one another day
[15:22] <micahg> jdstrand: if you get a chance, can you publish TB 3.0.6 as well
[15:22] <micahg> or delegate :)
[15:26] <jdstrand_> chrisccoulson: sorry, my connection is flaky. was there more after your agreement that 3.6.8 should go out?
[15:27] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand_, there wasn't
[15:28] <jdstrand_> chrisccoulson: ok. I tested i386 heavily. I'm going to make sure the amd64 are working and publish
[15:28] <jdstrand_> chrisccoulson: you ok with that?
[15:28] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand_, yeah, sounds good. i was just going to upgrade my lucid amd64 desktop to 3.6.8 too (unless my GF has already done it)
[15:29] <micahg> (09:22:20 AM) micahg: jdstrand: if you get a chance, can you publish TB 3.0.6 as well
[15:29] <micahg> (09:22:31 AM) micahg: or delegate :)
[15:29] <jdstrand_> mdeslaur: are you working today?
[15:30] <mdeslaur> jdstrand_: yeah
[15:30] <jdstrand_> mdeslaur: hi btw :)
[15:30] <mdeslaur> jdstrand_: kind of...I'm mostly getting my mini 9 ready for tomorrow
[15:30] <jdstrand_> mdeslaur: would you be able to publish the tbird update for lucid? ^ I am working on ff this (and I'm technically off)
[15:31] <jdstrand_> mdeslaur: if not, we can maybe ask kees, but he is working on an embargoed item today iirc
[15:31] <mdeslaur> jdstrand_: yes, sure!
[15:31] <jdstrand_> mdeslaur: cool. big thanks!
[15:31] <micahg> thanks mdeslaur, jdstrand
[15:31] <jdstrand_> sure
[15:32] <mdeslaur> micahg: so, that's tbird 3.0.6 on what releases?
[15:32] <micahg> mdeslaur: just Lucid ATM
[15:33] <mdeslaur> micahg: ok, cool
[15:34] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should I just assign you the enigmail bug?
[15:35]  * micahg will also add use case
[15:38] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, can do. i will upload that later on
[15:38] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thanks
[15:40] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand_ / mdeslaur - how were your journey's back from prague?
[15:40] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: not bad, although they cancelled my last flight so I had to catch one an hour later
[15:40] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: you?
[15:40] <jdstrand_> chrisccoulson: I mssed my last flight, but got on a 3 hour later one
[15:40] <chrisccoulson> mine was pretty easy - most of my journey time was spent in amsterdam airport waiting for my connecting flight
[15:41] <jdstrand_> long day though
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i can imagine ;)
[15:41] <jdstrand_> chrisccoulson: it'll be your turn next time :)
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> lol
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'm looking forward to that ;)
[15:41] <jdstrand_> heh
[15:42] <jdstrand_> as much as I'd like to, it is hard to complain when everyone is in the same boat
[15:43] <jdstrand_> chrisccoulson: is yelp supposed to pull in xul192, or just be ok if it is installed?
[15:43] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand_ - it should pull in 1.9 on jaunty and 1.9.1 on karmic
[15:44] <chrisccoulson> (and should still work if 1.9.2 is installed)
[15:44] <jdstrand_> k
[15:44] <micahg> chrisccoulson: did you see my email about xul191?
[15:44] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i did. i got that updated to 1.9.1.10 a while ago in the PPA, and then never got round to 1.9.1.11
[15:45] <chrisccoulson> we should fix that too, but the important applications are all using 1.9.2 now anyway
[15:45] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok, well, there will probably be a release sometime next week after blackhat, so maybe we should just wait until 1.9.1.12?
[15:46] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that sounds ok
[16:03] <jdstrand_> chrisccoulson: btw, regarding firefox-2, I'm betting jaunty users that had firefox-2 upgraded to karmic and farther
[16:51] <micahg> fta: is there any reason not to delete xul193 and ff37 from the daily PPA?
[16:52] <micahg> fta_: is there any reason not to delete xul193 and ff37 from the daily PPA?
[16:53] <fta_> micahg, i don't think so
[16:53] <micahg> fta_: k, thanks
[17:03] <jdstrand_> chrisccoulson: ok, ff368 is pushed. I will be going offline once I get the USN text
[17:03] <micahg> jdstrand_: xulrunner also?
[17:03] <jdstrand_> micahg: yes
[17:04] <jdstrand_> 1.9.2.8
[17:04] <micahg> jdstrand_: awesome, thanks, enjoy your vacation and the conference
[17:04] <jdstrand_> thanks!
[17:04] <micahg> jdstrand_: just out of curiosity, are there any security people available in case something goes crazy?
[17:04] <micahg> while you're all at blackhat I mean
[17:05] <jdstrand_> micahg: yes, I should be online. sbeattie won't be there and is working all next week, so you can talk to him directly, and he can be sure to get our attention
[17:05] <jdstrand_> micahg: well, I'll be online on and off
[17:05] <micahg> jdstrand_: k, well, as long as there's someone, shouldn't be a problem though
[17:06] <jdstrand_> micahg: in the past, if something affects mozilla, then upstream scrambles and we publish on monday or tuesday
[17:06] <gnomefreak> i dont know how to use pidgin for IRC :(
[17:06] <micahg> no expecting any more releases until after blackhat (then expecting a really fast release :) )
[17:06] <jdstrand_> yes
[17:06] <micahg> gnomefreak: why?  wfm
[17:06] <jdstrand_> micahg: so, I'll be checking in, etc. if we need to publish sooner, I can test and publish as needed
[17:07] <gnomefreak> micahg: it has 3 open tabs i am scared to close. one is nickserv one is frig(server) and channelserv
[17:07] <micahg> jdstrand_: ok, the only thing I know of that's planned is FF4.0B2
[17:07] <jdstrand_> micahg: so you guys just get the fixes into the ppa as mozilla whenever you get them (like normal)
[17:07] <micahg> gnomefreak: you can close them all :)
[17:07] <jdstrand_> s/as mozilla//
[17:07] <gnomefreak> micahg: thanks
[17:07] <micahg> gnomefreak: actually, ChanServ might not
[17:07]  * micahg doesn't get that
[17:10] <gnomefreak> i miss irssi
[17:11] <gnomefreak> maybe ill work on installing Maverick in a day or 2
[17:17] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand_ thanks :)
[17:20] <gnomefreak> am i oped?
[17:20] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[17:20] <micahg> gnomefreak: no
[17:21] <asac> chrisccoulson: Bug 606728 ... can you check that this lands as SRU in lucid and maybe prepatch the maverick package with that commit for maverick until i make a maverick ubufox release?
[17:21] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 606728 in ubufox (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "about:home always gets redirected to http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/Google/ (affects: 1) (heat: 563)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606728
[17:21] <micahg> gnomefreak: you can set user modes on connect
[17:21] <gnomefreak> oh well ill screw with it in a day or 2,
[17:22] <chrisccoulson> asac - sure, no problem
[17:23] <gnomefreak> you can close chansev tab. i now only have the 2 channels i am in
[17:24]  * gnomefreak gone
[18:33] <nxvl> chrisccoulson: did you know of a ppa or something to try FF 4.0 beta?
[18:39] <micahg> nxvl: we have the daily builds at the moment, in the next few weeks, we'll prepare a beta ppa
[18:39] <nxvl> micahg: oh, so there is still no beta .deb?
[18:39] <micahg> nxvl: not ATM
[18:39] <nxvl> ok, thanks
[21:01] <micahg> gavin: is LGPL code prohibited in Firefox?
[21:03] <micahg> gavin: nevermind, I found mozilla 581773
[21:03] <ubot2`> Mozilla bug 581773 in Video/Audio "Consider using ffvp8 for WebM videos" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581773