| dholbach | good morning | 07:07 |
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| dholbach | nigelb: at least I got to hear some noise from sweet India :) | 15:32 |
| nigelb | haha | 15:32 |
| dholbach | nigelb: no need to go crazy :) | 15:32 |
| nigelb | you heard the echo from germany :p | 15:32 |
| dholbach | but it was FROM India :) | 15:32 |
| dholbach | alright, whatever | 15:33 |
| nigelb | heh | 15:33 |
| dholbach | so there's a few things I wanted to talk about | 15:33 |
| nigelb | anyway, so we're way out of track | 15:33 |
| dholbach | 1) Ubuntu Global Jam coming up soon | 15:33 |
| dholbach | 2) Patch Days + Tuition Sessions | 15:33 |
| dholbach | 3) Interviewing current contributors about their experience with the process | 15:33 |
| dholbach | 4) Reaching out more generally | 15:33 |
| dholbach | 5) Reactivating Bobbo! :-D | 15:34 |
| nigelb | heh | 15:34 |
| * vish thinks the review process needs to be review first :( | 15:34 | |
| vish | reviewed* | 15:34 |
| nigelb | why? | 15:34 |
| nigelb | I thought it was fine with no complaints | 15:34 |
| nigelb | ('cept for nitpickers like you :p) | 15:35 |
| vish | 1: we dont need so many tags ;p | 15:35 |
| dholbach | I think it's just important to hear what our new contributors have to say in any case | 15:35 |
| nigelb | Yes, we do. | 15:35 |
| vish | no.. :s | 15:35 |
| nigelb | how else doo you intend to keep track of the buckets? | 15:35 |
| dholbach | shall we go through them one by one? | 15:35 |
| vish | We need only 4 statuses: | 15:35 |
| vish | - forwarded [this will work for all patches debian/upstream] | 15:35 |
| vish | - needs-work [these three are for patches which are lp projects] | 15:35 |
| vish | - accepted | 15:35 |
| vish | - rejected | 15:35 |
| nigelb | vish: but if a patch is marked rejected we might still goo with it | 15:36 |
| vish | nigelb: we cant keep baby sitting patches for ever :( | 15:36 |
| nigelb | for example the ayatana does a lot of stuff rejected upstream | 15:36 |
| vish | nigelb: rejected is for an Ubuntu task.. | 15:36 |
| nigelb | tags are per bug reports not per task | 15:36 |
| vish | plus we need to do what bgo does , status of the patches , rather than tag bug reports | 15:37 |
| vish | me need to get that in lp :) | 15:37 |
| nigelb | status of patches was discussed at uds | 15:37 |
| nigelb | If i remember, you were there :p | 15:37 |
| vish | yeah , thats what i'm saying ;) | 15:37 |
| nigelb | jcastro had an acition item and he updated it recently. | 15:37 |
| nigelb | while its a good idea lp team thinks its too much of work to implement right now | 15:37 |
| nigelb | and they suggested that we use tags which we're already doing | 15:38 |
| nigelb | (this is the result of the action item) | 15:38 |
| vish | nigelb: why do we need patch-fowarded-upstream + -debian ? why not just patch-forwarded? if a relevant patch needs to to upstream/debian it is evident | 15:38 |
| nigelb | We can have a patch forwarded to upstream and debian at the same time | 15:39 |
| nigelb | how do you track that? | 15:39 |
| * vish never saw such a bug yet :s | 15:39 | |
| nigelb | I did. | 15:39 |
| dholbach | ok | 15:39 |
| dholbach | I feel like we should have that discussion separately :) | 15:40 |
| nigelb | heh | 15:40 |
| nigelb | I shoulda been at uds | 15:40 |
| dholbach | in terms of feedback I can imagine that there's a lot of other stuff coming up | 15:40 |
| nigelb | this would have been so much easier if we could sit down and discuss :/ | 15:40 |
| dholbach | but we need to start reaching out to those new contributors first | 15:40 |
| nigelb | instead of having reports maybe we need to blog about examples | 15:40 |
| nigelb | like what effraim does for packaging. that would seem interesting | 15:41 |
| vish | dholbach: thats the first complaint any new contrib keeps whining about , too many patches :( , thats why i brought it up :) | 15:41 |
| dholbach | I did a blog post like that already, anybody else wants to have a go? | 15:41 |
| * vish fades aways | 15:41 | |
| nigelb | dholbach: I do. Its my turn for reports today. I'll do some. | 15:41 |
| dholbach | vish: sorry, I didn't mean to rebuff your comments | 15:41 |
| dholbach | vish: I think they're important, but I felt that it was part of a longer conversation | 15:41 |
| dholbach | and tried to go through the quicker pieces first | 15:42 |
| vish | cool.. :) | 15:42 |
| nigelb | dholbach: we need to have a patch day soon :) | 15:42 |
| nigelb | shall we bug pedro about it today? next thursday perhaps? | 15:43 |
| dholbach | pedro is at GUADEC right now | 15:43 |
| nigelb | ahhh. Oh no. | 15:43 |
| dholbach | so maybe the thursday afterwards | 15:43 |
| dholbach | which would leave more time for organisation | 15:43 |
| nigelb | Yes. | 15:43 |
| dholbach | I'm happy to send him a mail about it | 15:43 |
| dholbach | ok | 15:43 |
| dholbach | regarding http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam | 15:44 |
| nigelb | Same system as last time, 1 person in the channel provides support for questions etc | 15:44 |
| dholbach | it's going to be quite a big event, happening in a month | 15:44 |
| dholbach | it'd be nice if we could integrate info about Cleansweep into either http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam directly or maybe http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Bugs | 15:44 |
| dholbach | do you think that makes sense? | 15:44 |
| nigelb | yes. it does | 15:45 |
| dholbach | do you think you can have a look and see where it fits in well? | 15:45 |
| nigelb | I was planning on having a bug jam in our city. May be I could organize it towards patches | 15:45 |
| dholbach | I'll also mention it as part of the UGJ announce | 15:45 |
| dholbach | sounds awesome | 15:45 |
| nigelb | I will. I will either fix it or talk to pedro about it first | 15:45 |
| dholbach | fantastic | 15:45 |
| dholbach | that's two discussion points off the list already :) | 15:45 |
| dholbach | let's talk about the actions in a few days again so we can see where we stand | 15:46 |
| nigelb | ok | 15:46 |
| nigelb | I'll go compose that blog post now | 15:46 |
| dholbach | how can we reach out more generally and also reach out to existing contributors about their experience with the process? | 15:46 |
| dholbach | shall we maybe just ask during the patch days? | 15:46 |
| nigelb | yeah. good idea | 15:46 |
| nigelb | just 4 questions would do | 15:47 |
| nigelb | small enough for people to spare 5 minutes | 15:47 |
| dholbach | are you going to draft something up so we can ask them immediately during the event? | 15:47 |
| nigelb | yep, I will :) | 15:47 |
| dholbach | super | 15:47 |
| dholbach | and maybe we should think about reaching out more after those events again | 15:47 |
| nigelb | yeah, have a list of people who participated and poke them often | 15:48 |
| dholbach | I think I'll CC bobbo in all those discussion mails too | 15:48 |
| nigelb | yep, good idea | 15:48 |
| dholbach | maybe he's interested in helping out | 15:48 |
| nigelb | also, you could display that counter on your site | 15:48 |
| nigelb | and also poke and push other community folks like jono to display it | 15:48 |
| dholbach | I'll have a look and see | 15:49 |
| nigelb | torture them if you have to :D | 15:49 |
| dholbach | haha | 15:50 |
| dholbach | nigelb: sent the summary | 15:54 |
| dholbach | nigelb: let's re-review in a few days | 15:54 |
| nigelb | okay | 15:54 |
| vish | dholbach: there is one item jcastro was supposed to do during UGJ | 16:02 |
| * vish finds blueprint | 16:02 | |
| dholbach | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-global-jam | 16:05 |
| vish | nigelb: poke.. | 17:10 |
| nigelb | vish: ouch | 17:11 |
| vish | nigelb: right , so back to the reduce tags | 17:11 |
| vish | nigelb: is there any way , we can reduce ,them , seems a bit much .. we can make it a lot more simpler | 17:12 |
| nigelb | vish: I'm thinking of it now that you say it so vehemently | 17:12 |
| vish | we have nearly 11-12 tags , and the first thing anyone sees that list they go .. awww :s | 17:13 |
| nigelb | best part... | 17:13 |
| nigelb | we always use only 3 :/ | 17:13 |
| vish | yeah | 17:13 |
| nigelb | patch-needswork, patch-forwarded-upstream | 17:14 |
| nigelb | well, the othe one is "patch" | 17:14 |
| nigelb | vish: I've asked doctormo to take a look at the process | 17:15 |
| vish | Nicke: i say , we combine the tags and reduce to just 4.. and we dont ask anyone to babysit the patch , we need to make the submitter more familiar with upstrea/debian | 17:15 |
| vish | we cant keep reporting back , upstream says "so so.." | 17:15 |
| vish | err , nigelb ^ | 17:15 |
| vish | Nicke: unping ;) | 17:16 |
| nigelb | can give me a few days to talk to others? | 17:16 |
| nigelb | vish: unping is so LOL. Now you've pinged him/her twice >D | 17:16 |
| vish | nigelb: no probs for me ;) | 17:16 |
| vish | ;) | 17:16 |
| nigelb | vish: also, bug me next week. I might get overwhelmed. :D | 17:18 |
| vish | nigelb: hehe , alteast he wont keep wondering whaaaaat! :) | 17:18 |
| vish | nigelb: meh , i forget more than you ;p , thats why i mention now .. | 17:18 |
| nigelb | haha | 17:18 |
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| massimo_ | evening all ! | 21:55 |
| massimo_ | somebody got some tips for a newcomer? | 22:01 |
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