=== TannerF is now known as [12] === [12] is now known as TannerF [00:53] hi all, i installed ubuntu server and it will not boot. just shows cursor blinking with black background === JanC_ is now known as JanC [00:53] when i boot into ubuntu server cd, i can tell it to boot from first hard disk and it works fine [00:53] tried re-installing grub, installing lilo, etc. to no avail [00:54] any ideas? [00:54] oh, i am using a 2.2TB hardware RAID array which is properly recognized by the installer and is formatted as ext4 [01:03] what package do ubuntu 10.04 server has for Qos?? I want to use it as internet gateway [01:04] doolph, I don't belive this could be achived by just installing a package. You'll have to configure from ground to top a firewall with QoS, [01:05] do you know where to start? [01:06] doolph, yes: studying iptables firewall. [01:07] doolph, you'll spend a great effort reading, studying, trying, but at the end, you'll be able to have the most 'cirurgical' QoS and other complex firewall settings. [02:38] I upgraded to Ubuntu Lucid and now when logging in, I find it takes at least 50 sec just to authenticate me to user and also a long time to authenticate me as root. Why is this? [02:42] I /did/ notice something like 60 console-kit-daemons loaded. I wonder if they load up every time I log in [02:44] yes, it's starting them up every time I login. Second, I noticed if I've already authenticated as root, it doesn't take any time to log me in. Something about entering in a password correctly is triggering the creation of all of these [03:02] Saturn2888: going on memory here, not at work to check my logs, but I had the same problem and I modified the /etc/sshd_config file, appending "UseDNS no" (unsure of correct syntax. Google it. After doing so, the logins returned to a more normal time period. [03:03] apt-get remove consolekit did not fix the problem, [03:03] Saturn2888, which authentication method are you using, PAM, LDAP, DOMAIN? [03:04] PAM I think. I didn't know you could use Domain or LDAP actually bc I'd rather prefer adding domain in :P [03:04] kkk [03:04] heh [03:05] Saturn2888, change your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file to "UseDNS no" and restart the service using sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart [03:05] "UsePAM yes" Could I even add "UseDOMAIN yes" ? [03:05] second you should be using SSH keys to login with SSH and not passwords [03:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys [03:06] meh, it's not online, it's my home network, and I use PuTTY, and it's a bit of a pain to do the key thing. The 1 security flaw about keys is that someone gets the key and no password is needed. [03:07] is the DNS thing commented out or should I add it? Second, why didn't I have these issues in Hardy? [03:07] 1 security flaw is anyone sniffs your connect and you lose [03:07] You should add it [03:07] What do you mean about sniffing the connection? [03:07] we need to fix the obvious and lay a good base so we can further troubleshoot, right now you got two big problems [03:08] Cain&Abel [03:08] :P [03:09] login is still slow. I need to restart ssh don't I? [03:09] really? [03:09] yeah, still slow [03:09] http://pastie.org/private/xekad7aqtulkicszgvyuqa [03:10] i meant "sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart" [03:10] wait wait. That's not the whole file [03:10] ok referesh [03:10] refresh* [03:10] it's ssh restart. sshd isn't a service in init.d [03:11] does the delay occur after you type password? [03:12] ok now we need to debug [03:12] ssh -vvv user@server [03:14] after that we will need to take a look at if you have the update motd script running [03:18] ok [03:18] http://www.walkernews.net/2009/04/06/how-to-fix-scp-and-ssh-login-prompt-is-very-slow-in-linux/ [03:18] im out [03:18] yes [03:19] after the password. Does it for root too, but does NOT do it when I do sudo su - right after having logged in as root meaning, if I do not authenticate again, I do not have the issue [03:20] bogeyd6: http://pastie.org/private/1ih8lnt1o9vaal6yuosfaa [03:22] I also keep seeing domainadmin@grubber:~$ debug2: tcpwinsz: 263536 for connection: 4 at the prompt and can't get rid of it [03:22] *** System restart required *** [03:22] *** System restart required *** [03:22] lol [03:22] LOL [03:23] bogeyd6: ? Where is that? And it does the password thing in tty [03:23] dude, "sudo shutdown -r now" [03:23] or just reboot :p [03:23] line 144 [03:23] great, well darn. I wish I'd seen that before [03:23] Wow, the great feat of Windows tech support [03:23] hopefully, just hopefully [03:24] yeah [03:24] I don't think that's it. I'm almost sure it did that after a restart [03:24] it will solve it, because your next step is to start PAM trouble shooting and changes lots of things [03:24] ? [03:27] I'm getting a keyboard [03:32] finally, now it's going down. I lost my DHCP lease in the process.... [03:34] logging in on the host machine itself was fast. [03:34] but it didn't reboot from terminal [03:34] only from tty [03:34] but I can't acces sit [03:34] access* it [03:37] aw great.. I restarted the wrong server. [03:37] that was my router. The reason i can't access it is because I'm at the grubrescue> screen. I dunno what to do. [03:41] booting now. I need to update-grub then grub install into the compact flash drive I have in there. I must've forgotten. then I'll swap out the USB drive with the Compact flash and should be okay [03:42] if you're wondering, grub2 wouldn't embed into /dev/md0 so I mad /boot on a USB, it worked bu it's so slow. I ended up moving it all to an IDE Compact Flash drive I had sitting around but must've forgotten some stueps [03:42] sounds like you got alot of work ahead of you [03:42] yeah, slow in tty1 for sure [03:43] well this should be about 1 min (after login) to fix GRUB [03:43] the rest is logging in being slow. It's not SSH-related [03:49] rebooting it. hoping this time it'll use the compact flash. Maybe it did last time and grub was like "WTF?" Hmmm. The USB isn't large enough to use anyway. [03:50] bogeyd6: yay works. Ok, back to this problem [04:18] I think it has to do with something in /etc/pam.d [04:18] Saturn2888: what are you trying to do? [04:21] login in both ssh and tty is extremely slow taking 30sec to 1min. I am trying to figure out why. I restored an old snapshot of the /etc/pam.d directory, no fix. I wonder what's causing it. Before, i noticed everytime I authenticated, I got a ton of console-kit-daemon --no-daemon processes which I used apt-get remove consolekit to kill. Then I also noticed that if I logged in as root, hit CTRL D, and did sudo su - before the tim [04:24] Saturn2888, the default motd in jaunty and newer takes some time to process [04:24] it checks system load and then checks for updates [04:28] qman__: oh ok. Where is it? I have it not to load over ssh, but that probably just stops it from being displayed [04:29] Saturn2888, /etc/motd.d [04:31] hmm only motd. [04:31] http://pastie.org/private/sty5kobyzckuhinvbx4yuq [04:32] hmm, must be the wrong path [04:32] ah [04:33] /etc/update-motd.d/ [04:33] Saturn2888: what auth methods do you want/try to use? [04:33] password? [04:33] superman? [04:33] So you aren't using, say, LDAP, or kerberos? [04:33] I dunno what you mea [04:34] This is a single-user single-host machine without a network connection? [04:34] oh oh, no no. I wish. I only found out today it was possible in SSH, didn't even know it was possible for tty [04:34] I get into it via SSH almost always. it is a single-user machine in that I am the only one using it, but some apps have their own users. [04:35] Oh, you said it's still only taking a minute to boot [04:35] http://pastie.org/private/sty5kobyzckuhinvbx4yuq [04:35] Unless this is a brand new machine, one minute is *good* [04:35] yeah, all those scripts run to generate the motd [04:35] only? no no, boot is a different issue. I'm talking about login [04:35] like "Ubuntu 10.04.1 Login: " [04:35] if any one of them takes more than a couple seconds, you're going to notice it [04:35] after typing in my pass it's like "let's go to sleep now" [04:35] Saturn2888: You mean the delay is after you enter your username and password? [04:35] and they do on every system I've installed [04:35] no [04:36] qman__: ok. So I check them all? [04:36] twb: it's the delay after entering a correct password to getting to the prompt [04:36] move the ones you don't care about out of that directory [04:36] which ones are which? Why are they there? [04:36] they generate the info that shows up in the motd [04:37] Saturn2888: then the problem is most likely in your .bashrc, .bash_profile, .profile, or other login scripts. [04:37] system status, updates, zombie processes, that sort of thing [04:37] it's a convenience feature [04:37] Checking motd is also a good idea, although I *thought* those were updated at boot time, not at login time. [04:37] not sure when it updates, but I notice with fresh installs that logging in takes longer because of it [04:38] even on fast hardware [04:38] and even when logging in long after booting has finished [04:38] Shrug. [04:39] qman__: do I restart something after doing this? [04:39] no [04:39] I'm moreso thinking it's in bash then like twb says [04:39] just log in and see if it fixes the problem [04:39] didn't fix it [04:39] well lemme move more things. [04:40] yeah, no fix from even completely moving the update-motd.d folder [04:40] ok then, must be something else [04:41] The only thing I changed in bashrc is something I changed on all my other systems, I added the colors [04:41] maybe something else went screwy. I want to try copying files from one server to this one and see what happesn [04:41] happens* [04:43] hmm. did anything change from hardy to now? [04:43] in the bash rc files [04:44] they have changed, but I don't think any of the configuration itself has changed [04:44] just the order and the comments [04:44] if your question is whether a hardy .bashrc will work on lucid without issues, the answer is yes [04:45] ok good [04:45] lemme try swapping the files now. Unless you guys can point me to some default ones [04:50] Saturn2888: put "date --rfc-3339=ns" at the top of your .bashrc [04:51] Then, when you next log in, you'll know how quickly it reaches that point [04:51] why's that? [04:51] ooh cool! [04:52] You can also try something like printf "${BASH_SOURCE[0]}:$LINENO" [04:52] I forget the exact syntax [04:53] For what? [04:55] 2010-07-25 22:53:50.296067986-05:00 if it's saying it only took 10 sec, that's a lie so this is saying it's probably def bashrc? [04:55] I had pasted it in the wrong chat :P [04:55] For when you have a dozen such timestamp lines; it prints out which file/line the timestamp belongs to. [04:58] oh I see, i want that. I dunno how to lookup the syntax for it. Never done bash scripting myself [05:00] go onto #bash and ask [05:01] haha oh yeah [05:01] 1 min [05:01] gonna swap out the file first [05:04] swapping out the .bashrc file didn't fix it either [05:04] qman__: haha, it's not fixing that way either [05:05] do you guys know what scripts run when you login? Maybe that's killing it [05:13] Saturn2888: /etc/profile.d [05:15] nothing in there [05:16] I find that hard to believe [05:16] twb: http://pastie.org/private/orjqbjlsjizbpw4h9j32pw [05:16] was there supposed to be stuff in there? [05:16] bash_completion, at least [05:17] Maybe ubuntu moved it somewhere "helpful" [05:17] hahaha === rmk_ is now known as rmk [05:17] I have some things in /home/user [05:18] http://pastie.org/private/orjqbjlsjizbpw4h9j32pw [05:25] twb: Something looks off to me: http://pastie.org/private/3plvoir17bujn2lpljrsha line 19 [05:29] I see something, the if /etc/bash_completion part. That file is in /etc === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann [05:29] although, this is commented out for root login [05:44] twb: Oddly enough, it gives me enough time when it's logging in to switch out the .bashrc file. [05:45] so it's whatever executes before bash [05:47] .bash_profile [05:48] ok [05:48] lemme log back in, I wanna also try changing the password [05:48] Whatever; I'm not hanging on your every word. [05:49] np np, sorry. I might wanna note ,if I type in my password wrong it does that normally [05:49] the speed that is [05:50] http://pastie.org/private/xcbagfsqv9ewytwd47bq [05:50] oops, that was my fault [05:50] does bash have anything to do with password authentication? [05:51] if not, that's the new place to look for this because authenticating this password to change it took forever [05:51] that's pam [05:52] back to pam then? [05:52] probably /etc/pam.d/common-auth [05:52] What could be the issue now? [05:52] ok [05:53] http://pastie.org/private/xcbagfsqv9ewytwd47bq [05:53] well, there you have it [05:54] you're attempting to authenticate with winbind [05:54] it's probably failing [05:54] oh ok, I am? [05:54] winbind and ldap [05:54] wait wait, so I can auth as a samba users? [05:54] what specifically do you mean? [05:55] oh, this machine is the LDAP server, now I remember. But LDAP stopped working after the upgrade. Ah ha! so I should comment it out [05:55] that's not going to solve the problem [05:55] ok [05:55] that file is now automatically generated [05:55] you need to fix or remove ldap [05:55] and winbind [05:56] ok [05:56] otherwise, next time the pam update script runs, it'll be slow again [05:56] you can comment as a temporary solution [05:56] oh [05:56] it's okay. I'll just remake my samba users again [05:56] I have no clue why it's not working anyway [05:56] winbind/ldap is a separate thing from samba [05:57] what exactly are you trying to do? [05:57] you CAN authenticate samba users via ldap/winbind, but they don't by default [05:57] or was I trying to do. Does uninstalling those fix pam? [05:57] might, though you might need to purge them [05:57] I had this as an LDAP master and my other server as an AD server which got users from LDAP on this machine [05:58] the reason it's taking so long is it's timing out attempting to authenticate against winbind or ldap, or both [05:58] one of them is gone, the pam-ldap.so use_first_pass is still there. Commenting it out [05:59] no fix though [06:00] you only commented it out in one method [06:00] common-auth [06:00] it more than likely exists in others [06:00] and when pam updates again, it'll uncomment [06:01] you need to fix/remove ldap [06:01] pam-auth-update , ran that, didn't fix it though [06:01] oh oh! fixed [06:01] I forgot to uncheck samba. weird, at least now I have more control over this [06:14] Thank you guys so much! [06:14] I'm heading out [06:43] Hi [06:44] hi lwizardl [06:44] I know Landscape is a payware type of service but does there exist something similar to it for free usage ? [06:44] Depends if you want to babysit both ends [06:45] twb, what do you mean? [06:45] landscape is a service [06:46] well what I am looking for is something that will let me manage everything from a single location [06:46] i think it's proprietary, not entirely sure. But even if it was free, they would still charge for the service. [06:46] I know I could use stuff like cpanel, ebox, webmin, etc to do most of it [06:47] i don't think landscape does what you think it does [06:47] yeah I am not looking for someone else to do the work. more a just a single program versus using shell to handle this, then that, etc [06:47] ah ok [06:47] then I must have been confused [06:47] landscape will let you manage a pool of VM's [06:47] systems etc.. [06:48] so packages etc.. on the boxes [06:48] last time I looked at landscape was around the first advertisement date on the server download site [06:48] oh [06:49] cpanel and lanscape do have some crossover in terms of functionality but i think they are fairly different beasts. [06:49] landscape is probably what you want if you ahve a number of servers to manage [06:49] and you want to administer/ provision them automagically [06:50] ok yeah I just have 1 server and 10 domains on it [06:50] you probably don't want ladnscape. [06:50] that I manage manually [06:50] yeah i don't think so [06:50] now if i had like 5-6 servers then yeah [06:51] ok [06:51] thanks [06:51] what are the main issues for you wrt to managing the server via CLI ? [06:52] is it just unfamiliarity or do you need to give other people access to things? [06:57] mase_wk, I am fine with the cli just sometimes people ask for access to this or that [06:57] and then i have to remove it etc [06:58] also would like to be able to have printable charts of usage etc [06:59] there are a few things here and there I don't know how to do but a quick google search usually helps for those [06:59] yeh i understand what you mean. i've had to do something similar with some of my servers however I basically just created an ldap server, and hooked apache/ postfix / everything else up to the ldap server for auth [07:00] and then wrote a web frontend to which ever parts of the ldap records i wanted people to be able to change [07:00] lwizardl: cfengine, puppet, chef, etc. provide a centralized mechanism for managing a network of heterogeneous systems [07:00] yeah what I was doing was more setup a temp ftp and link to those files needed. and then after the login and they got that file i remove the account [07:00] hi there, i need to control which user are accesing p2p connection from internet. Somebody have any idea about any tool? [07:01] Roxyhart0, that seems to be a firewall relationship issue. I would look into ipcop [07:03] i mean, p2p is open...i just need to control when the user are downloading stuff with copyright issues [07:03] Roxyhart0: thats pretty hard to do unless you know which files have copyright issues in advance [07:03] Roxyhart0, ah ok I thought you was trying to stop all p2p on the network [07:03] no yet [07:04] Roxyhart0, that program i listed has a option to block all p2p traffic on the network, and lots of other stuff. I haven't set one up yet but it will be done this week after my network is installed at the location [07:05] mase_wk: the other problem with landscape (apart from being proprietary) is that the client is only available on Ubuntu [07:05] twb: ah ok so it handles stuff at the application level etc.. too ? i dont use landscape ( b/c it's proprietary ) [07:05] AFAIK landscape is basically just a cfengine-type system with the server side, and its web ui, being proprietary [07:06] thanks...at the moment identify user who download material with copyright issues. It is more "after" the problem as we still are not going to block p2p [07:06] twb: ah ok. fair enough. [07:07] Roxyhart0: how do you handle encrypted p2p ? [07:08] is this for an office / corp environ or something like a wifi hotspot ? [07:08] this is a educational institution [07:08] an [07:08] k [07:09] and i dont know, but the most of the traffic p2p is not encrypted i suppose? [07:11] not really sure i guess it depends on your users. the most useful way i've managed to combat p2p in an office is by heavily shaping everything that isn't a service we actively use [07:11] and offering to download torrents at high speed on behalf of users. For those that want new distro torrents or other legal things [07:12] I don't think so but most p2p today seems to be torrents and most clients are setup to use encryption [07:12] we had alot of encrypt on our network [07:12] hence why i couldn't really stop it per se [07:13] but i could make it annoyingly slow [07:13] and those that want something quick know they can get it quick if it's legal. [07:13] the ipcop program one of my friends used when he did a bunch of network setup installs for a church community center [07:14] and set it to block stuff like kazaa/limewire/frostwire bittorrents [07:14] i will check it, i leasen about ipp2p and Dante(as proxy) as well...but doesn do that im looking to do now [07:14] only thing that still works for what he told me was stuff like megaupload etc and he just added those to the blocked sites [07:15] plus that has a option to setup cache for updates so if you have say 10 computers on the network that all need to get updated it only grabs it once from the internet and the other 9 computers grab a cached version from the firewall [07:16] mase_wk, how you can do slow the traffic if you cannt detect if it is p2p? i mean encrypted traffic? [07:16] i think its just a modded version of monowall/shorewall but has lots of nice features [07:16] Roxyhart0: i dont' detect it's p2p , i just shape everything and unshape the protocols we actively use, ssh, http, ssl etc.. [07:17] ah ok... [07:17] the shaping works well because it's not like it doesn't work. so people just assume the torrents are slow [07:17] esp when generic web access etc.. is quick [07:18] so most of the time they just give up [07:18] haha... [07:18] if they complain, they usually complain about a legal torrent, in which case i explain that it's shaped etc.. [07:18] and then download it for them [07:18] mase_wk, yup but the more tech people will try and use a proxy and see if that will bypass and get faster [07:19] lwizardl: proxy won't help in this scenario unless it tunnels the p2p over http [07:19] which means your downloading it twice [07:19] ah true [07:19] once remotely and then pushing it through the proxy [07:20] which people who run proxy's don't like either [07:20] same applies to an ssh tunnel [07:20] in both cases people who understand it realise it's easier to do it from home :) [07:20] yeah just saying if someone wants it bad enough they will try other options [07:20] yes [07:21] or look for another wifi spot and try with that instead [07:22] yeh just makign it easier to do something else is usually enough [07:23] yup and then if something happens you have tried to stop people from doing it [07:24] me I plan to offer internet lan access in my store and I want to make 100% or as close as possable to stop any p2p downloading [07:25] i read dante works with p2p [07:25] and I also want to try and block access to adult related sites which is both something that the ipcop program does and then it has more options that I can make use of also [07:26] i will have a look at ipcop [07:27] yeah the only issue I have seen is that your box you install it on will need to have atleast 3 nic cards installs [07:27] so you can set them for how trusted the network you want Red/Blue/Green [07:28] basically Internal network only, external network only, and both [07:30] so, the nic with both is going the trusted traffic? === rmk_ is now known as rmk [07:31] yeah [07:32] the adult sites can be handled by blocking dns requests to anything other than your dns servers [07:33] and has full access, external only can visit web sites like google etc, and internal only is for computers you need to do other stuff on like your backend server keep track of POS cash registers etc [07:33] or you can use a service like openDNS [07:33] and only allow dns requests to those dns servers [07:33] mase_wk, yeah I was going just display a generic "sorry these types of pages are not allowed on the network" [07:34] and then also disable the usb ports so people can't bring files from home and save them onto the computers to cause problems [07:35] I want to set the machines to do like the computers at my old college did. after you reset the computer it booted a set system and automatically removed any files a user may have left or installed [07:36] can you do that with linux? I know with AD form windows ypu can do, i mean reset policies in clients (windows) but i am not sure if it is possible with linux server, could be great [07:36] lwizardl, should be pretty straightforward if you build an image and set them to netboot it [07:36] most of the trouble in setting up a netboot system is the persistent data [07:36] qman__, yeah I think that is what they did [07:36] but since you don't want any that takes that whole bit out [07:38] in absence of adequate network resources, you could build a custom live CD [07:38] but then you'd have to burn a new CD every time you patch it [07:39] yeah and that would be a waste [07:39] Roxyhart0: depends if your clients are linux or windows. I don't believe you can give the windows clients those sorts of profiles from a openldap etc.. like you can with AD [07:39] but if you have linux / osx clients you can [07:40] I will look into that because the computers I am running as internet terminals aren't that great of machines but for just net access they work great [07:40] they are running Ubuntu 10.04 [07:41] any idea why when I try and add this to iptables it fails: http://starfleet.pastebin.com/gQtgRsfg [07:41] yes the most are windows and mac [07:41] I'm using old Compaq IPAQ desktop computers 550mhz with 256mb ram, and a 10gb hdd [07:41] #netfilter says its the kernel [07:41] i'm not sure what to look for to fix it [07:42] Roxyhart0: well the mac ones with auth against openldap. I don't / haven't used windows clients since 98 so i'm not sure how they will deal with an openLDAP server. [07:42] mase_wk, they won't [07:43] I keep 1 windows desktop around and thats just for editing commercials from my ReplayTV DVR other then that I'm fully Ubuntu only on the other machines [07:43] you need samba, and some serious hacks [07:43] qman__: ye figured as much [07:43] and even then it's only partially working at best [07:43] ugh [07:43] upgraded to lucid, it picked a resolution out of range [07:43] in the most of the suff are ok, but for apply policies...no unless there are some way that we dont know [07:44] I have 1 windows machine, 1 server, 4 terminals, 2 linux pos computer cash registers, 1 office pc, 1 soon to be firewall, and 1 backend server [07:44] and 3 computers that are soon to be installed into MAME arcade cabinets [07:45] can anyone remember where hardy stored it's getty configuration ? [07:46] Hi EvilPhoenix, look this page http://www.shorewall.net/OpenVZ.html [07:47] "if you see annoying error messages as shown below during start/restart, remove the module-init-tools package from the VE" [07:47] Roxyhart0: the issue isnt with OpenVZ, the issue is iwith the kernel image loaded on it [07:48] mase_wk, the per-TTY configs are in /etc/event.d [07:48] its not reading the modules necessary to detect ESTABLISHED,RELATED connections on iptables [07:49] qman__: thats it . thanks. don't suppose you can copy/paste your getty line from /etc/event.d/tty1 ? I am de-xenifiying a virtual machine [07:49] yeah [07:49] exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1 [07:49] thank you [07:50] no problem [07:50] now to figure out why my video mode changed [08:05] so, for some reason [08:05] video modes that worked fine in hardy, now show 'out of range' after upgrade to lucid [08:05] if I remove the modeline it works, but obviously it's low resolution [08:06] video card is an ATi Rage XL [08:13] don't tell me I need to install grub2 to get more than an 80x25 terminal :/ [08:27] How can I detect the fastes Ubuntu mirror to set in my sources.list file? [08:37] New bug: #570456 in qemu-maemo "Unimplemented cp15 register write (c9, c12, {0, 0}) with Ubuntu OMAP image" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/570456 [09:25] hi there, there are someway to identify users by IP address? [09:26] i mean who is using an IP? [09:27] Roxyhart08: google for host based authentication [09:27] thanks [09:29] It depends on a range of factors, like whether you have control of the network and all the machines that use it. [09:37] New bug: #609979 in mysql-5.1 (main) "aptitude install mysql-server freezes at dpkg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609979 [10:04] Hey folks .. when is the 10.04.1 release [10:25] kim0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule looks up to date [10:26] jcastro: you're da man :) [10:55] after getting ip from dhcp server.. and only ubuntu lucid image [11:40] <_ruben> hmm, speaking of 10.04.1, my desktop vm just announced itself as 10.04.1 .. that's odd === TREllis_ is now known as TREllis [12:18] good day [12:18] how can is send mail to jigsneth@yahoo.com [12:18] how can i send mail to jigsneth@yahoo.com? [12:27] silentwhisper: assuming you have a mailaccount, in the to field of your client(webbased or other) you paste the adress. If you prefer you can write something in the subject line. In the usually bigger square you write your email and press send. Some clients require you to press send & recieve button or similar. If your question is about some more server-side stuff like postfix i prefer you alter your question [13:00]