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JontheEchidnaulysses: hi, are you sure the .pot your are using is up to date? Those really should be translatable...00:06
JontheEchidnathey are i18n'd and all: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktophv154900:07
JontheEchidnaand if the other tabs are translatable, this one should too00:08
JontheEchidnaand those are the newest additions to the tabs00:08
RiddellScottK: kde4libs fix worked on ARM but compile failed on the very next file, fingers crossed for the next try00:13
ScottKRiddell: Progress.  You'll be expert soon.00:13
Riddellmaybe but I've never been a firefighter so I'll never get to be as cool as NCommander00:16
ScottKRiddell: I'm sort of convinced "hiding" in the Plasma javascript stuff doesn't work as advertised on plasma netbook.00:26
RiddellScottK: is it a config option or something else?00:41
ScottKRiddell: It's from http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting00:42
ScottKI think I just figured it out.00:43
ScottKIt's not an attribute of the panel.  It's an attribute of SAL.00:43
* ScottK tries that.00:46
ScottKRiddell: I don't seem to be able to get it to work there either.  I tried sal.hiding = 'none' and sal.hiding('none').  The first one didn't work.  The second one produced a crash.01:04
* ScottK gives up and goes to run some errands.01:05
RiddellScottK: can you configure it from the UI?01:07
ScottKRiddell: Yes. 01:07
RiddellScottK: how?01:07
ScottKRight click on the SAL cashew, then there's an autohide button just below the panel.01:07
ScottKright/left01:08
Riddellsal has a cashew?01:08
ScottKSure.01:08
ScottKLower left corner01:08
Riddelloh there it is01:08
Riddell[PlasmaViews][2]01:09
RiddellpanelAutoHide=false01:09
Riddellso probably just needs that set in the config01:09
ScottKI guess I was confused by the documentation that said to use "hiding"01:10
Riddellhmm, well I'll look at it tomorrow01:11
ScottKI'll fiddle with it a bit more.  I'll let you know if I get it sorted.01:12
Riddellyay, kdebindings compiled here, uploading01:12
ScottKbindings or libs?01:12
Riddellbindings01:12
ScottKOK01:13
Riddellwithout qt multimedia and with some fix for akonadi01:13
Riddelllibs will take some more hours to compile on ARM01:13
ScottKAh.  Cool.01:15
* Riddell snoozes01:16
* vorian requests a merge \o/01:47
* maco now using knr lappy01:56
macoknm is fail for 3g, btw01:56
jjesseboo01:56
macoapparently theres a mobile-broadband-info package (i think thats the name)01:56
macothats pulled in when you install nm-applet01:56
macoand then nm-applet has a wizard that just pulls info from the xml file installed by that mobile broadband package and asks "so what country?" "what provider?" "which plan?" and does magic01:57
macowhereas knm is like "so do you happen to know the name of the anp off-hand?" and you and the person at the t-mobile store are like "the what now?"01:57
macoi'll have to play more, trying with copying some of the data from the xml file, but given bug reports back to jaunty saying it doesnt work on knm...01:58
ScottKNo suprise it didn't work then.  It might be better now.02:04
* maco pouts at rekonq's continued crashes02:06
macothe one i saw on lp is marked "in progress"02:07
ScottKmaco: At today's meeting we decided to kick it out and re-evaluate if it might improve later.02:07
macoScottK: yes i saw :)02:07
macohowever konqueror is rendering poorly so i was hoping *one* of them would succeed. i think im gonna need firefox02:08
macojjesse: still around?02:20
jjessetoday i am02:20
DarkwingDuckWhere does the SVG for the new branding auto download to?03:27
valoriemaco, I too find rekonq excessively crashy03:29
valorieand sometimes after I close it too03:29
valoriewhich is....counter-intuitive03:30
macovalorie: kontact usually claims to have crashed when i quit it03:45
DarkwingDuckand don't get me started with akonadi :P:P03:46
DarkwingDuckI'm working on a couple of card designs with the new Kubuntu Brand and the new Ubuntu Font.03:47
DarkwingDuckI'll post them to the ML when I finish them.03:47
valorieI've stayed away from kmail etc. until I hear better things about them03:59
valorieI'll never put my email in danger again04:00
macomueslix: fix your network04:52
mueslixmaco: sorry04:53
ScottKvalorie: Fortunately Kmail in Lucid/Maverick doesn't use Akonadi for mail yet.  It's just the addressbook.04:53
* ScottK has used Kmail for 5 years and (so far) never lost a message.04:53
valoriewell, without email to populate it, the addressbook is a bit useless04:54
* ScottK knocks wood.04:54
valorieI used it for many years also04:54
valoriemostly without problems04:54
mueslixmaco: actually, it's manual quits, not my network04:54
macothe only issue i had with kmail is the time my hard drive filled and it couldnt close file descriptors04:54
mueslixmaco: didn't wanna annoy anyhone tho04:54
valoriebut now that our mail server changed, I'm just waiting, and using gmail as a backup04:54
macomueslix: oh. wow why were you in-n-outing so much?04:54
ScottKI find I don't use the addressbook much.  I mostly write mail to people based on recent addresses.04:54
mueslixmaco: hacking on kovnersation04:55
JontheEchidnakmail2 is currently a disaster, and seeing KDE's track record of un-disaster-ifying new frameworks that currently suck but promise great shininess, I'm not hopeful :(04:55
voriankmail for 3ish years, no problems04:55
* maco nearly asked a stupid question04:55
* maco confused konversation and kopete04:55
ScottKJontheEchidna: I think we've resolved that question at least for this cycle.04:55
mueslixmaco: kopete does have an irc plugin too, tho ;)04:55
JontheEchidnawell I must say I have my doubts for the long term as well, but I guess there's not much to be done about that...04:55
ScottKmueslix: Not in KDE4.04:55
mueslixmaco: usually, i'd just connect to a test irc network for hacking, but in this case i need some live channels04:55
vorianlol04:55
mueslixScottK: oh, right04:55
macomueslix: right. i was about to go "it can do irc?" and then realised that yes, duh, konversation is an irc client. i was thinking of kopete04:55
macooh wait you said "does"04:56
ScottKmaco: It could do IRC in KDE3 times.04:56
macohavnet seen that04:56
ScottKNot now.04:56
mueslixfigured 6am in the morning (europe time) doesn't offend to many people on the channels i'm on ;-)04:56
* maco still not a fan of kde304:56
mueslixkde3's been brilliant :)04:56
ScottKIt's the past in any case.04:57
valorieIt was good in its time04:58
macoJontheEchidna: oh come on, only took 2 years for kde3 users to relent that kde4 is finally unsuckified :P05:00
macoi mean undisasterified05:00
JontheEchidnanepomuk still sucks, for example05:00
JontheEchidnaand what's been done so far with akonadi hasn't been exactly pleasant05:01
vorianit has a moar cool icon though05:01
JontheEchidnaheh05:01
JontheEchidnadon't get me wrong, the platform's nice, in general.05:01
JontheEchidnabut certain components would not be missed if they were dropped, in my opinion05:02
valoriewhat would you like to see disappear?05:02
JontheEchidnaakonadi, for the most part05:03
vorianartwork underway05:07
* vorian is sad being in such a weird timezone05:07
valorieI haven't used it05:07
vorianwhoa05:08
vorianthis is almost as bad as when I broke the network :P05:10
valorie_woah, I lost my scrollback05:10
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valoriethat was a bit of a split05:11
voriandid you get disconnected?05:11
valorieyes05:11
valoriedoesn't usually happen, but oh, well05:11
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ulyssesJontheEchidna: yes, both .pot is up to date06:09
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apacheloggerJontheEchidna: oh oh, you should take a look at the akonadi design itself08:42
apacheloggerit is made out of awesome08:42
apacheloggerunfortunately the implementation up until now was not anything like it :/08:43
faboRiddell: phonon-backend-vlc needs libvlc, libvlccore and the modules. Unfortunately, the modules are shipped with vlc package.08:43
faboRiddell: I'll see if the vlc maintainers could improve the situation08:43
Riddellfabo: that makes sense08:59
apacheloggerRiddell, ScottK: MI does not allow hiding like "minimize to tray"?08:59
faboRiddell: Opened #590545 in vlc 1.1.1-109:00
Riddellapachelogger: we have a task bar to minimise apps to09:01
apacheloggerso you were complaining about the tray icons eating space in the tray but are fine with the taskbaritem that eats like 5 times as much? Oo09:02
CIA-98[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727081730-k28i7kq6ovqb8iby * src/statusnotifier/ (CMakeLists.txt StatusNotifier.cpp) kwebview && i18nc++ && proper strings09:17
CIA-98[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727082223-1rj2zng2e2s9q3du * src/statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp set proper window icon09:22
CIA-98[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727082831-5pxwh30d9w6mck59 * sn-kcm-close-kcm-authkwalletaccess.kcrash (log message trimmed)09:29
CIA-98add backtrace of very weird crash that happened when starting the kcm from the09:29
CIA-98status notifier, waiting a bit, closing it, THEN ack the meanwhile appeared09:29
SeLecTspanis09:38
MamarokSeLecT: no, English only here09:39
SeLecTok09:39
SeLecTistall zatto en kubuntu ?09:39
SeLecTinstall zattoo kubuntu '09:40
MamarokSeLecT: please go to #kubuntu-es for support in Spanish09:40
SeLecTok09:40
CIA-98[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727085646-fxl17i6mfwi0uo9g * TODO add targets (as identified before midterm eval) to todo09:57
* apachelogger finds his u1 kcm horrible -.-10:04
valoriewhat's so awful about it?10:04
apacheloggereverything10:05
apacheloggerthere is no concept behind it10:05
valorie:(10:05
apacheloggerit is just a pile of options (or actually it doesnt even do much -.-)10:05
valorieyou seem to have lost your enjoyment in this project10:05
valorieit's sad to see.....10:05
valoriedid you have a nice birthday, though?10:09
apacheloggerany opinions on http://imagebin.ca/view/Ph_PyO.html10:20
apacheloggervalorie: I slept through one half and was travelling the other ;)10:21
apacheloggerRiddell: ^^^^^ kcm10:21
apacheloggerin the folder sections one can manage publication and sharing, general basically contains what is visible right now (without that additional tab) and web just contains a kwebview to the website10:22
* apachelogger doesnt really know what more to configure at this point anyway10:23
valorieit looks good to me10:31
valorieat least as good as u1-original10:31
Tm_Tuh, I'm no longer moderated in k-c-d? :o10:32
apacheloggerprobably people became tired of passing you through :P10:34
apacheloggeri hear that is how you get into kcd ^^10:34
apacheloggervalorie: only? :O10:34
* apachelogger wants it to be superior10:34
Tm_Tapachelogger: I can be very tiresome to deal with, that's for sure10:34
valorieapachelogger: while I like a pretty config screen10:37
valoriewhat is more important is the dang thing working10:37
valoriewhich so far....not for me10:37
apacheloggeryou wanna know why?10:37
apacheloggerbecause of the python stuff :P10:37
apacheloggerand because of very poor design10:38
apacheloggerlike components manually trying to get authentication tokens ... which means each component that I do not replace must be patched to not only look in gnome-keyring but also kwallet10:38
apachelogger...10:38
valorieI've been hearing you bewail the -original state10:38
valorieso you have a moving target10:39
valorieand generally, when one has a moving target, you move to a shotgun10:39
valorie:(10:39
apacheloggervery true10:40
valoriethat's sort of the opposite of the elegant program which is the ideal10:41
valorieI guess the cloud is a cloudy concept over there10:41
CIA-98[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727094258-880vmpz7fcyfy2wj * src/ (kcmodule/Module.cpp statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp) clean ups and downs10:43
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CIA-98[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727100620-pndj6cbw8rhko9c2 * dolphin.txt add notes on what is necessary in dolphin11:06
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Quintasansheytan: what abut that bzr-fastimport?14:49
Quintasansheytan: meant for shadeslayer 14:49
sheytan:)14:49
ScottKRiddell: I had no luck last night with figuring out autohide in the javascript for netbook.14:55
shadeslayerQuintasan: we can import kdelibs with it14:55
shadeslayeri think14:55
ScottKRiddell: I gave notmart a ping about it in #plasma-netbook.14:56
ScottKRiddell: notmart explained it to me.  k-n-d-s upload shortly.15:07
CIA-98[muon] jmthomas * 1155504 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonStrings.cpp Remove duplicate entry for mail, copy/paste error BUG: 24591515:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 245915 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "Puller breaks when dest directory is not a branch but has a bzrdir" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24591515:12
dantti_JontheEchidna: http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plasmadesktopp21573.jpg15:18
JontheEchidnadantti_: neat :)15:18
dantti_much better imo15:18
stalcupRiddell: did you get my poke about artwork and accessability?15:20
shadeslayerooooooohhhhhhhh http://www.afiestas.org/15:50
shadeslayermost importantly.. bluedevil15:50
shadeslayerwill we ship it?15:50
* oxymoron cries over that KDE dev team hvaent fixed everything and doesnt introduce anything new :/16:17
oxymoronKDE 4.5 RC 3 and nothing new yet ...16:17
ScottKoxymoron: It's an RC, it's not supposed to introduce anything new.16:20
oxymoronScottK: And Final should? xD16:20
oxymoronScottK: I mean 4.5 doesnt introcude antyhing compared to 4.4?16:20
ScottKOh.16:21
ScottKSure it does.16:21
oxymoronOnly some minor fixes that shouldve been take care of light years ago.16:21
oxymoronWebkit for KOnwueror, Reworked notification blaha and so on? :S16:22
Riddellshtylman: I've seen ev's ubiquity branch for maverick and it scares me16:32
Riddelllots of changes16:32
RiddellScottK: nothing new in lp:~kubuntu-netbook/kubuntu-netbook/default-settings  did you commit?16:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: pokes16:33
ScottKRiddell: I didn't yet.  I'm also trying to get the battery to appear in the tray by default (and the MI).16:33
shtylmanRiddell: it scares me too16:34
shtylmanive started looking at it16:34
ScottKIf you've got that stuff, I can push my autohide change.16:34
shadeslayeri think we can do s/QDialog/KDialog to upgrade manager... whats your take?16:34
Riddellshtylman: upgrade manager I've always wanted to keep as simple as possible, I'm slightly scared that if it changes to a KDE app it'll have permissions problems same as we occationally get with ubiquity16:36
Riddellshadeslayer rather ^^16:36
shadeslayerRiddell: apachelogger wanted me to transition it16:36
RiddellScottK: not to hand I don't, can they take the code from plasma-desktop?16:37
shtylmanRiddell: I have never touched upgrade manager so can't really comment on that one :/16:37
ScottKRiddell: They are there, it's just a question of getting them in the default config.16:37
ScottKGood point though, let me look how it is there.16:37
Riddellstalcup: hmm bzr won't let me merge your branches16:42
Riddellmoaning about versions being incompatible16:42
Riddellcopied by hand and merged, thanks16:42
Riddellapachelogger: my only comment on your kcm screenshot is that your colour scheme is ugly :)16:46
shadeslayer^ lol16:47
ScottKRiddell: I'm borrowing your config stuff from k-d-s and will try it in netbook.16:51
mfraz74experiencing trouble with maverick on a i915 based laptop17:03
mfraz74splash screen is messed up and desktop effects are disabled17:05
shadeslayerRiddell: seen mail on kde-packager?17:05
shadeslayerby sebas17:05
shadeslayer/proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches for us currently is 819217:05
shadeslayerwhich is *small*17:06
mfraz74any ideas?17:06
Riddellshadeslayer: no, what's it say?17:07
Riddelloh trueg17:07
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/9X26M2ts17:07
Riddellyes we should ponder that17:07
shadeslayermaybe talk to #ubuntu-kernel or such?17:07
Riddellyes probably, I wonder who on the kernel team would care17:09
shadeslayerhehe17:09
shadeslayerim in there right now17:09
mfraz74is kde 4.5 rc3 going to be built for the kubuntu beta ppa?17:10
mfraz74just had the printer applet crash on maverick17:12
shadeslayerRiddell: would we want usr/share/kde4/services/searchproviders/bing.desktop and usr/share/kde4/services/searchproviders/baidu.desktop17:13
shadeslayerin kdebase-runtime17:13
Riddellshadeslayer: yes, they should be in the .install files alreayd no?17:14
shadeslayertheyre not17:14
shadeslayerill add them17:14
Riddellin kdebase-runtime-data.install17:15
shadeslayeryep17:15
shadeslayerany specific files for manpages?17:15
Riddellhow do you mean?17:15
shadeslayerdh_install: usr/share/man/man1/kdesu.1 exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere17:16
Riddellkdesu isn't a user command 17:18
Riddellso just leave it uninstalled17:18
shadeslayerok17:19
shadeslayeranything else about the other 2?17:20
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shadeslayerwait.. :P17:21
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shadeslayerdh_install: usr/share/man/man8/nepomukservicestub.8 exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere17:22
shadeslayerand dh_install: usr/share/man/man8/nepomukserver.8 exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere17:22
shadeslayeri doubt we need those17:22
ScottKshadeslayer: If we install the binaries, we should install the man pages.17:22
shadeslayeruh..17:22
ScottKkdesu is a bit special since we divert it to kdesudo.17:22
shadeslayerfor the last 2?17:22
Riddellyou can add them to kdebase-runtime.manpages17:23
ScottKYes (I'm assuming we install the binaries)17:23
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shadeslayerRiddell: they were commented in kdebase-runtime.install 17:23
ScottKRiddell: If https://launchpad.net/~kitterman/+archive/ppa/+build/1892006 works, I'll upload it.17:23
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Riddellshadeslayer: add manpages to kdebase-runtime.manpages17:25
mfraz74any idea what this means: opengl compositing self-check failed, falling back to xrender ?17:25
Riddellit means opengl isn't working17:26
mfraz74Riddell: I'm sure it was ok in 10.04 as the desktop effects were working, now in 10.10 they are not17:27
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/wjfT503u17:30
shadeslayerso i guess... modify rules file?17:31
shadeslayera more legible version http://pastebin.com/XkEd5SrL17:32
dantti_Riddell: works now :D http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopo2157317:35
shadeslayerdantti_: new kpk?17:35
dantti_shadeslayer: sort of, the screen shot is to show the new aptcc that get distro upgrades17:36
dantti_shadeslayer: but the update ui is different17:36
shadeslayerah :D17:36
shadeslayerlooks somewhat better ;)17:36
dantti_I'm going to remove the update groups, the second column and trie to reduce the line height17:37
dantti_and invert the package name and description17:37
dantti_since most people (including me) started to hate it :P17:38
JontheEchidnahehe17:38
JontheEchidnathe latest in plasma runner technologies: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopja765517:39
JontheEchidnait's like command-not-found, only for the runner17:39
dantti_JontheEchidna: hmm nice how it works?17:39
shadeslayerooh17:39
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: nice17:39
JontheEchidnadantti_: it grabs the sterr of /usr/lib/command-not-found :P (a bit ugly)17:40
shadeslayeraww.. we had kubotu :P17:40
dantti_JontheEchidna: it would be nice if it use packagekit so other distros could have it :)17:40
JontheEchidna*stderr17:40
dantti_hmm17:40
JontheEchidnaand then it calls an installer via kprocess17:40
dantti_there is a command not found in packagekit dunno if it works.. :P17:40
JontheEchidnaif you click on it17:40
dantti_pretty nice17:41
JontheEchidnahttp://pastebin.com/JjU5PeN817:41
shadeslayeroh gawd no17:41
shadeslayernoooooooooooooo17:41
shadeslayerkonsole crashed taking my chroot with it.. which had mod to all files :S17:41
shadeslayerand i dont remember the location :/17:41
shadeslayeraw man :S17:42
JontheEchidnaif kde can't find the program via KService, it'll see if command-not-found knows what package the string belongs to17:43
JontheEchidnaand then if it finds one it'll return a result that you can click on to install it17:43
JontheEchidnathis could go great in kickoff17:43
JontheEchidnafor example if you just recently (re)installed linux and you didn't have an app that you usually have, you could very conveniently just click on that to install it17:44
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: do you haz cowbuilder?17:44
JontheEchidnanope, I usually just use pbuilder17:44
shadeslayer:S17:45
shadeslayerill have to do all of it over again :/17:45
JontheEchidnaaww, patching kickoff to add the installer runner to the list of allowed installers is a one-line patch, but it can't do an out-of-source build :(17:47
JontheEchidnaI don't wanna build all of kdebase-workspace :(17:47
shadeslayerScottK:  btw do i want to install usr/share/man/man8/nepomukserver.8 17:47
shadeslayerand usr/share/man/man8/nepomukservicestub.8 17:48
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: debhelper takes care of manpages. those are all false positives17:48
shadeslayeralrighty then17:48
shadeslayerruntime->done()17:48
macook, now i have enough computers to take an interest in that U1 think apachelogger is doing18:03
sheytanhey guys18:03
sheytanhttp://a.imageshack.us/img638/2390/basetest.jpg This one, or this one: http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7032/base2test.jpg18:04
Riddellkde4libs still going on ARM...18:04
Riddellbasetest.jpg doesn't have an obvious typo :)18:04
sheytanRiddell :D18:07
sheytanwill fix it :D18:08
sheytanbut, which one? :D18:08
macothey both have obvious typos18:08
macobastest has "agan" instead of "again"18:08
macoand base2test has "whatch" instead of "watch"18:08
sheytanDon't look at typos :P Look at the layout18:08
* maco hands Riddell glasses18:08
macosheytan: i like basetest. light & airy18:09
shadeslayersheytan: +1 to base2test18:09
shadeslayerand send me the image18:10
macoi dont like the thick black bar on base2test18:10
shadeslayer^ that can be improved ...18:10
sheytanshadeslayer is right ;D18:11
sheytanhttp://browse.deviantart.com/customization/wallpaper/widescreen/?qh=&section=&q=field++of++dreams#/d1ut0zi wallpaper :)18:13
ScottKshadeslayer: Yes.18:16
shadeslayerScottK: ok18:17
shadeslayeri wonder how hard will it be to implement http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=3753218:17
Quintasanshadeslayer: why would we bother, isn't that for local imports?18:17
shadeslayerlocal imports?18:17
shadeslayeras in on the HD?18:18
Quintasanyes18:18
shadeslayerhmm... i thought it was for lp imports18:18
Quintasanshadeslayer: go and do the kdebase18:23
Quintasan:P18:23
shadeslayerQuintasan: its building in cowbuilder18:23
shadeslayerits almost doen18:23
shadeslayer*done18:23
shadeslayerwill upload in 25 mins18:23
shadeslayerif cowbuilder permits18:23
Quintasanwhat about kdebase-runtime and workspace?18:24
shadeslayerQuintasan: i was talking about runtime18:24
shadeslayerworkspace comes next18:24
Quintasanok18:24
shadeslayerkdebase is up already18:25
shadeslayercowbuilder->hate()18:33
shadeslayerwhere is lex these days? 0_o18:34
Riddellhe told me he was on holiday18:35
Riddellin Hamburg18:35
shadeslayerahh... see how we are handicapped without him :)18:35
shadeslayerstupid cowbuilder :/18:35
Quintasanwhats your problem? works fine here18:36
Quintasanshadeslayer: and. well, TBH I'm just waiting on dependecies to be ready18:37
shadeslayerQuintasan: dude.. slow HD18:38
shadeslayeri started cowbuilder 30 mins ago18:38
shadeslayerand its still setting up stuff18:38
Quintasanthis must a damn old hd i assume18:39
shadeslayerQuintasan: only a year old :S18:39
shadeslayerbut18:39
shadeslayeri think.. its because i have BTRFS18:39
ryanakcashadeslayer: Mine's the same age and acts the same. Maybe not 30 minutes, but still slow18:39
Quintasanoh18:40
Quintasanshadeslayer: switch from it then18:40
shadeslayeryeah after next alpha probably18:40
QuintasanI see not point in using it when it is sooo slow18:40
shadeslayerQuintasan: ryanakca http://imgur.com/ngiZ218:41
Quintasanwhat is that?18:42
shadeslayerthe app?18:42
Quintasanyea18:42
shadeslayer!info gnome-disk-utility18:42
ubottugnome-disk-utility (source: gnome-disk-utility): manage and configure disk drives and media. In component main, is optional. Version 2.30.1-1 (lucid), package size 450 kB, installed size 7852 kB18:42
QuintasanGNOME has such a machine?18:42
Quintasanwe need better tool in KDE then18:42
shadeslayeryeah18:42
shadeslayertotally ^18:43
shadeslayerinfact18:43
shadeslayerQuintasan: ill reformat this weekend18:43
shadeslayerbtrfs--18:43
shadeslayerbtrfs--18:43
shadeslayerill start work on kdebase-workspace till then18:45
ScottKRiddell: k-n-d-s done in the archive and in bzr.  I also fixed up favorites while I was there.18:52
RiddellScottK: what was up with favourites?18:52
ScottKRiddell: Switched back to Konqueror from Rekonq (per yesterday's meeting) and put KMail back in place of Kontact (Kontact is just too much on a netbook).18:53
Riddellyou think notebook users don't want addressbook or calendar or other bits of kontact?18:54
ScottKWe've also had KMail in Netbook favorites for the last two releases.18:54
ScottKThere's a contacts icon in the search and launch directly.18:54
ScottKCalendar is available in the Office section.18:54
ScottKIt's just too much all at once on a small screen.18:55
Riddellright18:56
shadeslayeromg.. workspace bzr is huge :P18:57
ScottKIn any case, battery and M-I are in the default layout now (copying your js from desktop worked), so we just need k-d-s updated to enable M-I be default for Quassel/Kopete and make the tray icons go away.18:57
ScottKshadeslayer: Everything about -workspace is huge.18:58
RiddellScottK: hmm I wonder how that interacts with the kubuntu_105_netbook_favourites.diff patch in kdebase-workspace18:58
shadeslayerawesome :D18:58
ScottKRiddell: We can drop that now.  It's the javascript that's deciding.18:58
RiddellScottK: but it's needed for ubiquity18:58
ScottKRiddell: Oh?18:59
ScottKSigh.18:59
dantti_new kpk updater, it only misses the update kind emblem.. http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopp21573 18:59
ScottKOK.  Can we do the ubiquity bits in the javascript?18:59
QuintasanARGH19:00
RiddellScottK: not as far as I know, you can't query for the existence of files19:00
* Quintasan turns off everything too stop the distractions from coming19:00
Quintasan:S19:00
ScottKRiddell: I guess we need to leave it then.19:00
Riddelldantti_: ooh, nice :)19:01
macoRiddell: cant query file existence where?19:01
Riddelldantti_: where would the update emblem go?19:01
* ScottK highlights Quintasan a couple of times to help him make sure he's got distractions turned off.19:01
ScottKHeya Quintasan.19:01
Riddellmaco: in plasma config javascript19:01
macoRiddell: oh. nevermind...19:01
dantti_Riddell: I was thinkg next to the summary of the package19:01
ScottKRiddell: Maybe we could have a patch that provides something like "if (isUbiquity)" so it could work in layout.js like "if (hasBattery)" does?19:03
ScottKThen you could do the needed bits in layout.js.19:03
RiddellScottK: that would be more elegant, not sure what would be required though19:03
ScottKRiddell: I think what would be required is to tell agateau to do it... ;-)19:04
ScottKActually I bet shtylman could handle it.19:04
macoScottK: are you heading up to debconf?19:04
* ScottK gets back to $WORK.19:05
ScottKmaco: No.19:05
CIA-98[muon] jmthomas * 1155610 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/ (Messages.sh src/Messages.sh) Make Messages.sh more reliable, and also move it to the toplevel directory. Fixes incomplete .pot generation BUG:24583819:05
JontheEchidnaulysses: ^19:07
JontheEchidnanext scripty run should fix things19:08
ulysseswhere is kubotu, I want to order cookies for JontheEchidna19:12
shadeslayerulysses: ask jussi19:12
JontheEchidnahmm, I suppose I should have CCMAIL'd kde-i18n-doc for a heads-up19:13
shadeslayerQuintasan: i actually had runtime fix0red.. but at the last moment konsole went down taking down my cowbuilder chroot with it19:13
ulyssesJontheEchidna: Muon is really great, I think it's better than all other package manager19:14
JontheEchidna:)19:15
shadeslayerulysses: shhhh.. dantti_'s here 19:15
shadeslayerhe will be upset :P19:15
ulyssesThe UI is more usable19:15
ulyssesshadeslayer: why?19:15
shadeslayerulysses: dantti == kpk dev 19:15
shadeslayer:P19:16
ulysseso.O19:16
dantti_:P well kpk hasn't all that cool ui, but it is meant to be simple and hide advanced features that most users don't need...19:17
dantti_two different use cases19:17
dantti_it's like kpk vs shaman, kpk vs synaptics :P19:17
shadeslayeradd muon there too ^19:17
dantti_yup :P19:17
dantti_Muon should be full featured while KPK should be simple and got to all distros...19:18
dantti_s/got/go19:18
ulyssesI get it19:18
dantti_but if you have any ideas to get it better please say so :)19:19
dantti_ulysses: I'm trying to improve the updates ui now -> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopp21573 19:19
ulyssesI should translate KPackageKit too, it's untranslated in svn19:22
ulyssesso many translation to do, and not enough translator:(19:23
dantti_hehe19:25
JontheEchidnaoh my dpkg!19:50
JontheEchidnaarmel actually managed to beat all other arches: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-vlc/0.2.0-1ubuntu119:50
* shadeslayer is ranting about btrfs on #ubuntu-kernel19:51
Quintasanlol19:51
QuintasanJontheEchidna: :D19:51
QuintasanJontheEchidna: Have you ever hacked on Kopete before?19:52
JontheEchidnanope19:52
* Quintasan wants to make Kopete turn notifications off when status == DnD19:52
shadeslayerQuintasan: theres a GUI option for that19:53
shadeslayerlemme se19:53
QuintasanYou sure? I can't find it19:53
shadeslayerQuintasan: Settings > Configure > Behaviour > Events19:54
shadeslayerunder Misc. its Enable events when away19:55
shadeslayerso you untick that 19:55
shadeslayerwhich should do it19:55
Quintasanomfg19:55
shadeslayerQuintasan: it works right?19:56
Quintasanwell19:56
QuintasanIt works with Away19:56
QuintasanI wonder what if I set Do no disturb19:56
shadeslayerQuintasan: yeah so simply edit DnD to reflect away19:56
shadeslayerFile > Set Status > Edit Status19:56
shadeslayerDnD > Category > Away19:57
shadeslayerdone! :D19:57
Quintasandoesnt work19:57
Quintasan:/19:57
shadeslayerbrrrr19:57
shadeslayerQuintasan: use Away then :P19:58
shadeslayeror rename Away to DnD19:58
shadeslayersee.. no h4x00ring required19:58
QuintasanAway doesn't work too19:58
shadeslayer:O19:58
shadeslayerQuintasan: but you just said it worked :P19:59
Quintasanit just stopped20:00
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: I think dantti_ is doing something kopete-related20:00
shadeslayerlol20:00
JontheEchidnabut I think that's a rewrite he's doing...20:00
Quintasanthis is misleading!20:01
shadeslayeri definitely need a desktop20:01
Quintasangrrr20:03
* shadeslayer steals Quintasan's instead20:04
JontheEchidnaRiddell: if you're still doing archive-admin-y things, phonon-backends source needs to go. (moved back to phonon source)20:04
shadeslayerand plasma-widget-fastuserswitch needs sync ^20:05
shadeslayeroh wait20:05
shadeslayerits syncd :D20:05
shadeslayereveryone enjoy your shiny new plasmoid20:05
shadeslayerbah.. it aint.. thats the local package i installed :S20:06
Quintasanhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm20:08
Quintasanis Away checks for Busy too20:08
Quintasanbut it doesn't work anyways20:08
Quintasanthe feature is there but it does not work20:10
Quintasan:/20:10
shadeslayerheh :P20:11
Quintasankde bug Bug 18411320:12
ubottuBug 184113 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/184113 is private20:12
Quintasangrr20:12
Quintasankde bug 18411320:13
ubottuKDE bug 184113 in Notifications "No apparent way to disable events while status is Busy" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18411320:13
shadeslayerQuintasan: how do you list missing files with CDBS?20:13
shadeslayeralso20:13
Quintasanshadeslayer: hooks20:14
shadeslayermanpages are not installed, ScottK told me to install then whereas JontheEchidna says they are false positives :p20:14
shadeslayerso...20:14
shadeslayer# list-missing files result:-./usr/share/man/man1/kdesu.1 -./usr/share/man/man8/nepomukserver.8 -./usr/share/man/man8/nepomukservicestub.820:15
Quintasancdbs hook lists em as missing cause they get compressed20:15
ScottKI just said the man pages should be installed.20:15
shadeslayerScottK: i know20:15
QuintasanJontheEchidna: ^^ am I right?20:15
ScottKIf they're already installed, then don't worry about it.20:15
shadeslayer<JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: debhelper takes care of manpages. those are all false positives20:15
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: right, they get compressed and automagically added to the package by debhelper20:15
shadeslayerScottK: theyre not20:15
shadeslayeri do see them from the B10 hook20:15
Quintasanshadeslayer: cdbs is treating them as missing because they get compressed, just make sure they are in install files20:16
JontheEchidnaeasy way to convince yourself that they are already installed: man nepomukserver20:16
shadeslayerQuintasan: theyre not.. should i put then>20:16
JontheEchidnathey are installed20:16
shadeslayer0_o20:16
JontheEchidnajust not those files20:16
shadeslayernot here20:16
shadeslayerNo manual entry for nepomukserver20:17
shadeslayerand http://pastebin.com/SD0AG5p020:17
JontheEchidnahttp://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktophi765520:17
QuintasanJontheEchidna: you do not even need *.install entires for man files?20:18
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: nope, debhelper takes care of that20:18
Quintasanneat20:18
Quintasanshadeslayer: just ignore this :<20:18
shadeslayerokies20:18
shadeslayerkdebase runtime uploading then20:18
QuintasanJontheEchidna: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=184113 do you have powers to set that as confirmed?20:20
ubottuKDE bug 184113 in Notifications "No apparent way to disable events while status is Busy" [Normal,Unconfirmed]20:21
JontheEchidnayeah, though I doubt it'll really mean anything20:21
JontheEchidnaconfirmed20:21
shadeslayerhehe20:21
Quintasanbetter than sitting unconfirmed20:22
JontheEchidnaeh20:22
JontheEchidnanot really20:22
Quintasanwhy not?20:22
JontheEchidnabecause it just doesn't really matter in kde bug land20:23
Quintasan>bug20:23
Quintasan>magic20:23
QuintasanThere, I fixed it for you Sir20:23
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: where do you set the bug to confirmed btw?20:23
shadeslayerstatus?20:23
JontheEchidnayeah20:23
Quintasanshadeslayer: You need additional pylons to do that20:24
JontheEchidnathey use "NEW" for confirmed20:24
shadeslayerhmm.. the only field i cant edit there20:24
shadeslayerQuintasan: i haz additional pylons20:24
shadeslayernot all of them tho ^_^20:24
QuintasanThat means you do not have pylons needed20:24
shadeslayerhmm.. this cough syrup does not work :/20:25
shadeslayerim still coughing :P20:25
shadeslayerQuintasan: runtime uploaded20:25
shadeslayerworkspace coming up in 30 mins i guess20:26
Quintasangreat20:26
shadeslayerif i dont have alot of issues20:26
dantti_what do you think about the smaller rows? http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopt2157320:28
Quintasanlooks good20:29
Quintasangrrr20:32
Quintasanme need to grab debug libs20:32
shadeslayerman20:34
shadeslayeri need to type 60 pages :/20:34
shadeslayerQuintasan: btw you applied for UDS last time right?20:36
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: seems that https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeadmin/+bug/331192 cannot be fixed with given patch :(20:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 331192 in kdeadmin (Ubuntu) "KDE printer configuration app stopped working on Lucid (TypeError in set_widget_value())" [Medium,In progress]20:38
JontheEchidnathe bug shouldn't have been reopened20:40
JontheEchidnaclosing again20:40
shadeslayeruh....20:41
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: i just commented on it :P20:41
JontheEchidnayeah, on a random issue somebody polluted the original report with20:42
shadeslayerit still isnt fixed tho20:42
JontheEchidnathe issue reported is fixed20:42
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/EbnwG20:43
shadeslayerthats from maverick20:43
JontheEchidnamaverick is suffering from bug 59198020:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 591980 in kdeadmin (Ubuntu) "system-config-printer-kde missing error" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59198020:43
shadeslayerah20:44
shadeslayerdo we has patch>20:44
shadeslayeror new build dep has to be added?20:45
JontheEchidnait has to be ported20:45
shadeslayerpython-cupsutils << ?20:45
shadeslayeror the app itself?20:45
JontheEchidnathe app itself20:45
shadeslayerah ok20:46
* shadeslayer goes to look at some more20:47
shadeslayeruh20:48
shadeslayerbug 600177 can be closed imo20:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 600177 in choqok (Ubuntu Maverick) "choqok fails to build from source in maverick" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60017720:49
shadeslayersince we had a new choqok upload20:49
JontheEchidnayeah, closed20:50
shadeslayeryou closed it?20:50
shadeslayer:P20:50
JontheEchidnayeah20:50
shadeslayerhehe20:50
* apachelogger is back home \\o/20:50
shadeslayeri just did too :p20:50
shadeslayerapachelogger: wb20:50
apacheloggerRiddell: *sob* any comments regarding the structuring though?20:51
apacheloggerRiddell: also about the update manager thingy ... currently it is bugged && partially not translated20:51
apacheloggerlatter is very likely from using a QDialog with QDialog buttons (though since it is a kapp it should fetch kde-qt translation ... which makes the whole thing a bit odd)20:52
apacheloggerso20:52
Quintasanlol, apachelogger comes and spams channel with unsorted business :P20:52
Quintasanapachelogger: \o/20:52
apacheloggernow that I am home I can commit stuff again20:52
apacheloggerand take part in the 4.5 rcFooBar packaging20:52
apacheloggeralso I have great plans for shopping this week20:53
Quintasanapachelogger: We left you bindings20:53
shadeslayer:D20:53
Quintasanseems there are problems with python20:53
apacheloggerI shall get a new laptop a printer a new coffee cooking machinery and possibly cloths20:53
apacheloggermost importantly though shoes20:53
shadeslayeroh gawd20:53
shadeslayerbug 13206020:53
JontheEchidnaand a fez?20:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 132060 in network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu) "[feisty] network-manager-openvpn doesn't work when using x509 and private key file has password" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13206020:54
apacheloggerQuintasan: when are there no problems with pythonz... :P20:54
Quintasanapachelogger: trollface.jpg20:54
macoJontheEchidna: fezes are cool20:54
JontheEchidna;)20:54
apacheloggerhm20:54
apacheloggerno kubotu to ask ... what is a fez20:54
apacheloggerQuintasan: I do not render jpg, sry20:54
* Quintasan guesses that is the thing muslim women put on their heads20:55
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: you did not see the finale for the latest dr who?20:55
apacheloggerI did not dare20:55
JontheEchidnalol20:55
Quintasanbut this is a guess based on polish meaning of it :P20:55
apacheloggerit appeared to become too epic so I stopped after 5 minutes20:55
JontheEchidnahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvWYw0CnuSI20:55
Quintasanapachelogger: trollface.svg20:55
apacheloggeroh youtubes20:56
apacheloggeryoutubez even20:56
QuintasanuTubez20:56
apacheloggerahh20:56
apacheloggerohh20:56
apacheloggerI agree with the doctor (as usual)20:56
Quintasan@_@20:56
apacheloggerI shall also shop for a fez then20:56
apacheloggerI know a nice shop like 5 other people know about that might actually have such things20:57
* Quintasan takes out laser pisotr20:57
Quintasanpistol*20:57
apacheloggerwell then20:57
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: oh, before I forget: witness the latest in plasma runner technologies: http://tinyurl.com/2vsmrgk20:57
apacheloggerah20:57
Quintasancookies for JontheEchidna 20:57
apacheloggeryay20:57
JontheEchidnacommand not found + plasma runn0r == awesome20:57
apacheloggerhooray20:57
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that is way superior to apturl :P20:58
apacheloggerthat reminds me that I wanted to fix into runner && apturl20:58
JontheEchidnawell, just don't ask how it gets info from command-not-found :P20:58
apacheloggerwell20:58
apacheloggeryou20:58
apacheloggerknow20:58
JontheEchidnait works well enough but makes me cry20:58
apacheloggerdear JontheEchidna20:58
apacheloggercommand-not-found is written in ze pyth0rnz20:59
apacheloggerso 20:59
apacheloggerDO NOT COUNT ON IT ****NOT**** CHANGING20:59
JontheEchidnaKProcess > python20:59
apacheloggerKProcessor20:59
apacheloggerso20:59
apacheloggerenough of the chit chat20:59
apacheloggertime to do something useful20:59
JontheEchidnathe stderr output is probably more stable than the python api :P20:59
Quintasanlol20:59
apacheloggernamely mark all of src/bzr on my netbook as to-be-syncd with u121:00
apacheloggerand then....21:00
apacheloggermuhahaha21:00
* Quintasan hits apachelogger with a hammer21:00
apacheloggerthis is the by far most horrible use of cloud file syncing I am sure21:00
Quintasanstart doing thing insread of typing21:00
shadeslayerQuintasan: workspace building21:00
Quintasanbsides, why the hell do you sync bzr on u1?21:00
shadeslayerwell...atleast patches apply ^_^21:01
Quintasanshadeslayer: great21:01
apacheloggerhow else would you do the sharezing?21:01
shadeslayerim going to sleep in 15 mins21:01
Quintasanlol rsync21:01
ScottKdantti_: It looks to me like in Maverick if you check for updates and you aren't on the network, it fails silently (at least on Netbook I don't get a warning)21:01
apacheloggerQuintasan: how is that gonna work without properz authing21:01
apacheloggerand that requires sshing21:01
apacheloggerand that requires a totally different approach altogether21:01
apachelogger+ a key21:02
apacheloggercome to think of it21:02
apacheloggerwhere is my keyz21:02
Quintasanrsync > *21:03
* apachelogger does not know the rsync21:04
apacheloggerjudging from i requiring special end-to-end software it is very much of the fail-by-design kind21:04
shadeslayerlol @ bug 29653821:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 296538 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "warty-final-ubuntu.png is actually a jpeg" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29653821:05
Quintasanlol21:05
QuintasanJontheEchidna: got a second?21:06
JontheEchidnasure21:06
QuintasanJontheEchidna: http://pastebin.ca/1909579 <-- this part of code is supposed to work, but it does not, how can I check what exacly is wrong?21:06
yofelshadeslayer: that's one of the bugs everyone knows about but no one cares to fix as it doesn't really break anything currently...21:07
shadeslayer:P21:07
Quintasanthere are some kDebug in earlier lines commented but uncommenting them gives me nothing more in output21:07
Quintasanyofel: why the hell did they get there in first place? :O21:07
yofelQuintasan: see explenation in comment #821:07
Quintasanbsides >warty   <--- isn't that old?21:07
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: ah, you may try checking kdebugdialog to see if kopete's kdebug output is turned on21:08
macoQuintasan: yes21:08
yofelQuintasan: well, at least the name is the same on all releases :P21:08
apacheloggerno please do not call people old!21:08
macoQuintasan: instead of having a "default-wallpaper.png" symlink to the current release's wallpaper (like would be smart), they name it warty-final-ubuntu.png every release to make it auto-update your wallpaper21:08
QuintasanJontheEchidna: kdebugdialog <-- is that some sort of env variable or what?21:09
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: an app21:09
JontheEchidna!find kdebugdialog21:09
macoQuintasan: trouble is, its a bit hard to correct now...21:09
ubottuFile kdebugdialog found in kde-l10n-ca, kde-l10n-da, kde-l10n-de, kde-l10n-engb, kde-l10n-es (and 91 others)21:09
JontheEchidna!find /usr/bin/kdebugdialog21:09
ubottuFile /usr/bin/kdebugdialog found in kdebase-runtime, kdebase-runtime-dbg21:09
shadeslayerQuintasan: type it in krunner21:09
shadeslayerQuintasan: if kdebase workspace builds without mods, ill upload it21:10
shadeslayerim off for now21:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: oh last thing21:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: are we still migrating to KDialog?21:10
shadeslayeror is QDialog ok? ( wrt update manager )21:10
Quintasanmaco: lol21:11
apacheloggerOo21:11
apacheloggerroflmaogafhaasfmiw21:11
Quintasanmaco: are you serious? @_@21:11
Quintasanthis is the funniest solution I've ever seen21:11
QuintasanJontheEchidna: omfg, it is the debugging assisstant :O21:11
* Quintasan was pretty stupid to treat that as env variable21:11
QuintasanJontheEchidna: yup, kopete is all checked21:11
macoQuintasan: as far as i can tell, yep, thats what seems to have happened21:11
apacheloggershadeslayer: up to Riddell21:11
JontheEchidnahrmhrm21:11
shadeslayerkk21:11
apacheloggerIMHO the whole darn thing needs to be redone21:11
apacheloggeror removed21:11
apacheloggerno one dares upgrading anyway21:11
apacheloggerand those that do shouldnt21:11
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: qDebug will definitely spew things out to the konsole21:11
JontheEchidnas/q/k21:12
apacheloggerleaves a whole lot less to rant about21:12
JontheEchidnaer21:12
JontheEchidnas/k/q21:12
QuintasanJontheEchidna: now, how to debug that particular if ?21:12
macoQuintasan: of course, it means you lose your old wallpapers on upgrade...21:12
JontheEchidnaqDebug() << booleanVariable21:12
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: qdebug will only if built in debug mode!!!21:12
Quintasanmaco: that's not really smart :/21:13
* shadeslayer is wondering why anyone does not point to gdb21:13
shadeslayergdb kopete21:13
shadeslayerand then run :D21:13
Quintasanshadeslayer: sure, I want to see the whole app spewning mem leaks at me21:13
macoQuintasan: lack of forethought?21:13
apacheloggerso21:13
ScottKSomeone should merge skrooge.21:13
apacheloggerwho is in charge of the ninjaing?!21:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: me and Quintasan21:14
Quintasanapachelogger: I can be considered as such21:14
apacheloggervery well then21:14
apacheloggerthe wiki pag0r is the craps21:14
Quintasancause shadeslayer was slacking off blaming the whole thing on btrfs ;)21:14
shadeslayerhaha ^21:14
apacheloggerbecause it does not link to the dep graph and because it does not mention the dep graph as something to hold onto21:14
shadeslayerQuintasan: its true tho21:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: i just emptied the wiki page as is21:15
shadeslayerit didnt link to it earlier as well21:15
shadeslayerQuintasan: http://pastebin.com/g1NxkjFv << from #ubuntu kernel21:15
yofelshadeslayer: you *could* bind-mount /var/cache/pbuilder/build to some partition with another filesystem..21:16
shadeslayernow why didnt i think of that before21:16
shadeslayeryofel: im going to reinstall anyways now21:17
Quintasanapachelogger: tell that to shadeslayer, he modified the page :P21:17
apacheloggeralso.............21:17
Quintasanapachelogger: you should know the dependency graph by heart by now21:17
apacheloggerI think it would be super sensible to mark the cells in blue that are blue in the dep graph (i.e. parents)21:17
QuintasanYou are a ninja longer than me so how can you complain!21:17
apacheloggerthat way one quickly sees what most urgently needs to be done 21:17
* Quintasan delegates the task to apachelogger 21:17
apacheloggerQuintasan: I am also core-dev for quite some time and yet walk most processes by the lists in the wiki21:17
apacheloggerlists of any sort help prevent screwups21:17
apacheloggerand I am all for not screwing up 21:17
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: are you always checking bugs after upload?21:18
shadeslayerhrmmm... lag here21:19
JontheEchidnaari-tczew: no, but this time I forgot. sorry again :(21:19
JontheEchidna(phonon-backend-vlc, right?)21:19
Quintasanapachelogger: I think there was a switch to cmake to make the build a debug one, do you remeber what it was?21:20
apacheloggerQuintasan: -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull if I am not mistaken21:20
shadeslayerQuintasan: btw apachelogger was the one who founded the ninjas21:21
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: in future please check bugs. be in MOTU doesn't mean that you're most important person in the world. yes, phonon-backend-vlc21:21
JontheEchidnaI usually do21:21
JontheEchidnaI mean "yes, but this time I forgot"21:22
JontheEchidnaoh, wait, gah, confusing question21:22
JontheEchidnaI do usually check bugs before requesting syncs21:22
JontheEchidnabut this time I forgot21:22
JontheEchidnaplease don't take it personally.21:23
shadeslayerQuintasan: if you plan to upload kdegames, do check the changelog carefully, i commited a change a few days back21:23
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: I'm slowly getting used to such situations21:24
JontheEchidna? I've only done it this once :/21:25
JontheEchidnaand it was an accident21:25
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: not only from you21:25
ScottKJontheEchidna: It's happened to ari-tczew other times as well.21:26
JontheEchidnaAh, well I can see how that would be frustrating.21:27
JontheEchidnaScottK, ari-tczew: What happened here was that I saw that this needed merging yesterday, but didn't get around to it. (I was watching T.V. to be honest) Since it was only a 2-minute job I did it this morning without checking the tracker again.21:31
shadeslayerwow ^^21:32
JontheEchidnaOnce again, I'm very sorry, and I'll try my best not to let it happen again21:32
Quintasanhn21:41
JontheEchidnawhee: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktophp765521:41
QuintasanJontheEchidna: I must be doing something wrong, I get no output related to notification :S21:42
JontheEchidnanow there's an explanation for the case where binary name != package name21:42
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: hmm21:42
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: what file is that in?21:43
JontheEchidnarelative to the kopete directory?21:43
QuintasanI tried kDebug now but nothing else21:43
Quintasankopete/libkopete/private/kopeteviewmanager.cpp21:43
JontheEchidnaand all the kopete stuff is checked in kdebugdialog?21:43
JontheEchidna(libkopete especially)21:43
Quintasanyes21:43
JontheEchidnayou could try qDebug21:44
JontheEchidnaif kDebug just isn't working21:44
QuintasanJontheEchidna: do I need that booleanVariable there?21:44
shadeslayerQuintasan: workspace ftbfs..going to sleep :P21:45
Quintasanlazy shadeslayer 21:45
Quintasan:P21:45
shadeslayerdude21:45
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: well, if you want to know if it is true or false21:45
shadeslayerits 2 AM21:45
shadeslayerand i have to wake up at 7 AM to go to college21:45
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: for example qDebug() << !session->account()->isAway() would show if you were not away or... not21:45
shadeslayer:S21:45
Quintasanlol21:45
Quintasanshadeslayer: good luck21:45
Quintasanaaah21:46
shadeslayerQuintasan: ill finisht this tommorow 21:46
JontheEchidnaand qDebug() << d->enableEventsWhileAway would show if events while away are enabled21:46
QuintasanJontheEchidna: it's important where do I place that or that can be at the beginning of the loop?21:46
JontheEchidnaI'd personally place them right before the if statement that they are part of21:46
JontheEchidnaif you want, you can even do qDebug() << "some descriptive text" << boolean goes here;21:47
JontheEchidnag2g, bbl21:47
QuintasanJontheEchidna: THANKS :P21:47
Quintasanoh, caps21:47
apacheloggerwhat is with the weird tarballs on ktown?21:48
Quintasanapachelogger: svn<something>.tar.bz2?21:48
apacheloggeryeah21:49
Quintasanbeats me21:49
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Quintasanthose are 4.4.92 IIRC21:49
apacheloggeroo21:50
apacheloggercan someone poke dirk about that?21:50
apacheloggerwoah21:50
Quintasan?21:50
apacheloggerthe build-deps of kdebindings are a fucking battle field21:50
Quintasan:O21:50
apacheloggerwell then21:54
apacheloggeranyone knows where bzr-buildpackage does look for tarballs now?21:54
Quintasanbuild-place?21:55
apacheloggeronce it was in source, then it was ../tarballs then it was ../build-area then it was tarballs/ 21:55
apacheloggerah ../tarballs looks good21:55
apacheloggerif one names the tar correctly that is ^^21:55
apacheloggerthat deserves a script IMHO21:55
Quintasanapachelogger: hmm, know how can I redirect WHOLE output to grep? | fails cause debug info still gets in way21:56
apacheloggereh21:56
apachelogger| != redirect21:56
Quintasanit's a pipe21:56
apachelogger| == piping21:56
apachelogger> || < == redirecting21:56
Quintasanoh21:57
apacheloggerthat said21:57
apacheloggerfoo 2>&1 file > grep21:57
apacheloggeror something like that21:57
apacheloggerno clue how to get it to pipe stderr to grep21:57
apacheloggerand no kubotu to google it :(21:57
Quintasancommand 2>&1 >&3 3>&- | grep word  3>&-21:58
Quintasanlol21:58
Quintasandoes not work21:59
da-baymanquick question. Im stuck at grub2 with a wubi installation. How do i know which kernel im running?21:59
apacheloggerwah?21:59
Quintasanda-bayman: uname -a21:59
apacheloggerQuintasan: &3?21:59
apacheloggerwhat is 3?22:00
Quintasanbeats me22:01
Quintasansome_command 2>&1 | another_command22:01
da-baymanthat command doesn't work within grub22:01
Quintasanthis worked22:01
apacheloggeryeah22:01
Quintasanwhat the fcks22:01
Quintasanthe whole isAway() seems broken22:01
apacheloggerredirect stderr to stdout and then pipe that to grep22:01
apachelogger  libqt4-multimedia: Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu3 is installed.22:02
apachelogger                     Depends: libqtgui4 (= 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu3 is installed.22:02
apacheloggerrightly then22:02
apacheloggerwho broke that?22:02
* Quintasan hides22:03
apacheloggereh22:03
apacheloggerwhat the fez22:03
QuintasanI did not mess with Qt22:04
apacheloggerroot@osiris:/# apt-cache show libqt4-multimedia | grep Source22:04
apacheloggerSource: qt4-x1122:04
apacheloggerso22:04
apacheloggerwhat happened there :O22:04
apachelogger   - Drop multimedia package, QtMultimediaKit in QtMobility replaces it22:05
apacheloggeraight22:05
apacheloggerE: The package 'qt-mobility' does not exist in the Ubuntu primary archive in 'maverick'22:06
apacheloggeryou know22:06
apachelogger...22:06
apacheloggerpyth0rnz!22:07
ScottKWith the neverending line of private sources to apparently be built, nothing you upload will get built anyway.22:08
apacheloggerand after a hour of research apachelogger found out that qtmobility-dev is the package he wants to transit to22:10
apacheloggerchangelogs++22:10
ulyssesapachelogger: exam passed, now I can write the monthly report for Kubuntu Team if it is neccessary22:10
apacheloggerulysses: it is not necessary, it is desirable ;)22:10
* apachelogger high-fives for the exam22:10
* apachelogger thinks that this will not build with qtmultimediakit anyway -.-22:13
apacheloggerregression++22:13
apacheloggeryeah22:14
apacheloggerRiddell: your removal of libqt4-multimedia renders libsmokeqtmultimedia4-3 dust?22:15
Quintasanapachelogger: session->account()->isAway();   <-- this will return true or false if the status is Away?22:15
apacheloggeryes22:15
Quintasan>_<22:15
Quintasantrue?22:15
apacheloggerare you away? - true, I am away ... vs. ... false, I am not away :P22:16
Quintasanso !session->account()->isAway(); will return false on Away22:16
Quintasanwho the hell made those if's22:16
Quintasanif ( ( !session->account()->isAway() || d->enableEventsWhileAway )22:17
QuintasanLOL22:17
Quintasanthis is retarded22:17
apacheloggerread22:17
Quintasanor I am22:17
apacheloggerif you are not away OR events are enabled wile away22:18
Quintasanso that's not the if I'm looking for22:18
Quintasangrr22:18
Quintasanwait22:19
Quintasanif that's not it22:19
Quintasanthen, it is not in the code at all? >_<22:19
apacheloggerwhat is your problem anyway?22:20
Quintasanapachelogger: I want Kopete to DISABLE notification when I'm Away or Busy22:20
Quintasanthere is an option for that but it doesnt work22:20
QuintasanI was wondering is it getting option right22:21
Quintasanand it does22:21
apacheloggerdoesnt enableEventsWhileAway sound like that?22:22
Quintasanit sounds like that22:22
Quintasanbut it doesn't work22:22
apacheloggerbut?22:22
Quintasanthat's the point22:22
apacheloggerwell 22:22
apacheloggerthe condition is if you are not away or enableEventsWhileAway22:22
apacheloggerenableEventsWhileAway is probaby a bool22:22
Quintasanit is a bool22:22
apacheloggerso22:22
ulyssesoh my god https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Teams/Reports22:23
apacheloggerif (!away || enableEventsWhileAway)22:23
apacheloggeroh22:23
apacheloggerfuck22:23
apacheloggerBAH22:23
apacheloggerDSSDGAgJGJHJ22:23
apacheloggerpowerdevil--22:23
Quintasanwtf22:23
apacheloggerso22:25
Quintasanapachelogger: If I ever get that to work the patch will be so ugly that devs will ban me from channel for trolling22:25
Quintasan:P22:26
apacheloggerwhen there is a filetransfer going on22:26
apacheloggerthere is clearly nothing happening22:26
apacheloggerso we can suspend22:26
apacheloggerright?22:26
QuintasanLOL22:26
Quintasanapachelogger++22:26
Quintasanulysses: this page....is...a little bit empty? :P22:26
apacheloggernot to be ranting, but kopete code is ugly by kubuntu coding standards anyway ;)22:26
Quintasankopete needs a rewrite22:27
Quintasanwhy the hell they don't do that22:27
Quintasangreat22:27
ulyssesQuintasan: a little bit22:28
apacheloggerbecause it is a shitload of work22:28
apacheloggerand there are too few people22:28
Quintasanwhich noone wants to do22:28
Quintasanman, I would pay few bucks to get that fcking kdelibs import fixd22:29
Quintasanapachelogger: great, now I know the options are set right22:29
ulysses:)22:29
* apachelogger is really wondering why he only gets 300kbs over ssh22:29
Quintasanso the major question is, why the fck it's not working22:30
apacheloggerQuintasan: how do you know? ^^22:30
QuintasanQDEBUG STUFF: Is away? true22:30
Quintasanapachelogger: ^22:30
Quintasanand I'm currently Busy on Jabber22:31
apacheloggerthat does not mean that enableEventsWhileAway is appropriate22:31
QuintasanI check for that too22:31
apacheloggerand since it is a logical or condition either can be right22:31
Quintasanand it is false22:31
Quintasanbeacuse I set it to disable them22:31
Quintasanthe option is "Enable events notifications while Away"22:32
Quintasanunchecked should yield false22:32
Quintasan@_@22:32
QuintasanHOLY SHIT22:32
apacheloggerright22:32
Quintasanapachelogger: You're on jabber now?22:33
apacheloggerwas there a time when I was not?22:33
apacheloggeror do you mean online right now?22:33
Quintasandunno :P22:33
Quintasanonline22:33
apacheloggernot online22:33
apacheloggersec22:33
Quintasanapachelogger: quintasan@jabster.pl <-- send me some messages22:33
apacheloggernow22:33
apacheloggerQuintasan: auth auth22:34
Quintasanhahaha22:34
Quintasanstrange22:34
Quintasanapachelogger: you see, it works22:35
Quintasanbut22:35
Quintasanif you have no notifications22:35
Quintasanit displays one22:35
apacheloggereh?22:35
Quintasanthen next do not get displayed22:35
apacheloggerOo22:35
Quintasansend some more22:35
Quintasanno notifications22:36
Quintasan:O22:36
Quintasanapachelogger: spam something now22:36
Quintasanexacly22:36
apacheloggerwell is isAway or eanbleEventsWhileAway at any time not what it is supposed to be?22:37
Quintasanapachelogger: I have a strange feeling that bugzilla will tell you to solve this by having one notification displayed beforehand22:37
Quintasan:P22:37
Quintasanlet me check22:37
Quintasanapachelogger: send something22:37
Quintasannope22:38
Quintasanis away == true and events == false22:38
apacheloggerwhat does the if do?22:38
Quintasanand I get notification for first one22:38
Quintasanfrom my lame perspective22:39
Quintasanit sets no notifications22:39
Quintasanapachelogger: http://pastebin.ca/190962422:40
Quintasanthis is the if22:40
apacheloggerOHHHHH22:41
apacheloggerOHHHHHHHHHH22:41
apacheloggerdude22:41
apachelogger:P22:41
Quintasanwrong if?22:41
Quintasan:P22:41
apachelogger        if ( ( !session->account()->isAway() || d->enableEventsWhileAway )22:41
apachelogger             && msg.direction() != Kopete::Message::Internal )22:41
apacheloggerthats is the whole if22:41
apacheloggerit is two lined22:41
Quintasanyes it is22:41
apacheloggeryou did not say that :P22:41
Quintasanapachelogger: http://imagebin.ca/view/T1r-4O.html22:42
Quintasanlike this22:42
apacheloggerOTOH22:42
Quintasanmeans it's baaad22:42
Quintasan?22:42
QuintasanOTOH?22:42
apacheloggerwell, both conditions would need to be true, since !away || events is never true though the whole condition is never true22:43
apacheloggerunless I am suffering from almost-midnight-syndrom22:43
Quintasanhow do you explain next messages not throwing notifications?22:44
apacheloggerQuintasan: add another debug inside the if22:45
Quintasanapachelogger: the inner or outer? :P22:46
Quintasanoh22:46
Quintasangod damn22:46
apacheloggerthe one that is throwing the notification :P22:46
apacheloggerhm...22:47
apacheloggerif ( appendMessageEvent || showNotification )22:47
apacheloggeractually that if would be responsible for notification22:48
apacheloggerso maybe also add debugs to those looking into those two variables22:48
apacheloggerappendMessageEvent could be true if you have message queing on if I understand this correctly22:48
Quintasanlet me check for status of that22:49
Quintasanit is enabled in here22:50
apacheloggerappendMessageEvent?22:50
apacheloggeralways?22:50
Quintasanoh, I did not add that22:50
Quintasanlet me check that first if thought22:50
Quintasanapachelogger: spam some now22:51
Quintasangreat. the first one gets notification and then no spam22:52
Quintasanand no QDebug stuff22:52
apacheloggercan you please throw me the output?22:52
Quintasanthe whole crap?22:52
apacheloggerwell all the releveat stuff ;)22:53
Quintasanafter inserting that qDebug into the f ( ( !session->account()->isAway() || d->enableEventsWhileAway ) I get nothing22:53
apacheloggereh22:54
apacheloggerwell22:54
apacheloggersec22:54
Quintasangrr22:55
apacheloggerQuintasan: http://pastebin.ca/190963722:56
apacheloggertry that22:56
apacheloggermeh22:57
apacheloggerbindings is only at 40 % -.-22:57
Quintasanapachelogger: get a faster computer22:59
Quintasan:P22:59
apacheloggerI am :P22:59
Quintasanwhat is ur machine now?22:59
ulyssesQuintasan: from you?:P22:59
Quintasanulysses: from lex at least23:00
Quintasanlex is the fastest kde builder23:00
* ulysses have an Intel T300023:00
apacheloggerwell23:00
Quintasandamn u apachelogger, I forgot to prefix all QDEBUG messages23:01
apacheloggerprefix?23:01
Quintasanyes23:01
apacheloggerwhatfor?23:01
Quintasanto filter them with grep23:01
apacheloggerdude23:01
apacheloggerditch me the log and I will filter your arse :P23:01
QuintasanI get tons of raw xmpp beforehand23:01
* apachelogger is wondering where his second cat5 got lost to23:02
Quintasancat5?23:03
apacheloggernetwerx23:03
apacheloggerQuintasan: so where is the log?23:03
Quintasanbuilding23:03
apacheloggerman23:04
QuintasanTHE CODE MUST BE PURIFIED23:04
apacheloggerget a faster computer23:04
Quintasanintel core i5 @ 4GIGAHUNTZ with 4 gb ramz23:04
Quintasanproblem?23:04
apacheloggeri7 is supreme23:04
QuintasanYou have i7?23:05
apacheloggerI will by the end of the week23:05
ulyssesIntel Dual-Core T3000 @ 1,8 GHz with 2 GB DDR3 :(23:05
apacheloggerpossibly twice23:05
apacheloggeronce in a desktop23:05
apacheloggerand once in a mobile23:05
Quintasanso don't act so mighty now!23:05
apacheloggerso that we shall icecream23:05
Quintasanrepair the hook first23:05
apacheloggerbecause really, icecreaming IMHO is much more efficient than one fast cpu23:05
Quintasanfff23:07
Quintasanapachelogger: spam now23:07
Quintasangreat23:07
Quintasanapachelogger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/log.bz223:09
Quintasanenjoy ur OVER 9000 lines of raw xmpp log23:09
apacheloggercrybaby23:09
QuintasanqDebug() << "QDEBUG: monster if is true...";23:10
Quintasandoesn't show up23:10
Quintasanis this good?23:10
apacheloggercorse not23:11
apacheloggerbecause I am supreme23:11
apacheloggerQDEBUG: appendMessageEvent: true 23:11
apacheloggerQDEBUG: showNotification: false 23:11
apacheloggerQDEBUG: showNotification is now true!! 23:11
apacheloggeras suspected23:11
apacheloggerI bet with you if you turn of queuing you will get no notification :P23:11
Quintasanspam plox23:11
Quintasanapachelogger: ^23:12
Quintasanhmm23:12
apacheloggerif ( appendMessageEvent || showNotification )23:12
apacheloggerI think that should be &&23:12
Quintasanapachelogger: spam nao23:12
apacheloggeryou are offz23:12
Quintasanhaha23:12
Quintasansee23:12
Quintasanyou can't disable it :O23:12
apacheloggerwhy not?23:13
Quintasanthere is Open message instantly23:13
QuintasanUse message queuing23:13
apacheloggerturn that off too :P23:13
apacheloggeroh23:13
Quintasanand a check box Queue unread messages23:13
apacheloggerwell23:14
apacheloggerif ( appendMessageEvent || showNotification )23:14
apacheloggeris the problem23:14
Quintasanshould be &&?23:14
apacheloggerin particular that appendMessageEvent is always true becuase either you queue or show instantly and with show instantly you would override the notification anyway23:14
Quintasanas I expected that23:14
apacheloggerso I think this should be &&, because there is a parenting if that checks for inbound messages only23:14
Quintasanbut KDE magic is magical23:14
apacheloggerand if showNotification is false for such a beasty then appendmessageevent should be disregarded eitherway23:15
Quintasangrr23:15
apacheloggerQuintasan: if the kopete devs do not approach that change then they may reason why that || makes sense :P23:15
apacheloggerbecause I do not see none23:16
apacheloggeralso23:16
apacheloggerif ( msg.from() && d->eventList.isEmpty() )23:16
apacheloggerneeds to be changed23:16
apacheloggerto set shownotification to false23:16
apacheloggerthe general flow is ... check if notification should be displayed at all (first if)23:16
Quintasanapachelogger: are you spamming me now?23:17
apacheloggerif that is true and we use a message queue it should check if the queue is empty and if it is not not show the message23:17
apacheloggerso you need to invert the logic in that first if inside the failure if23:17
apacheloggerotherwise you create a new bug 23:17
Quintasanokay, now the notification is not showing AND kopete icon is not spinning23:18
Quintasanas I have received no messages23:18
apacheloggerhm23:18
apacheloggerright23:18
apacheloggernow it makes sense ^^23:18
apacheloggerQuintasan: if ( msg.from() && d->eventList.isEmpty() )23:19
apacheloggerinvert that one instead23:19
apacheloggerthat way shownotification can only become false other than in the if that checks for awayness23:19
* apachelogger hopes that was understandable ^^23:20
Quintasanso if ( appendMessageEvent && showNotification )   == if ( appendMessageEvent || showNotification )23:21
Quintasanand I should make if ( msg.from() && d->eventList.isEmpty() ) set showNotification to false?23:21
apacheloggeralmost23:22
apacheloggerthe latter should be inverted completely23:22
apacheloggerjust making it set showNotification to false would be, well, wrong23:22
apacheloggeryou need to invert the condition itself 23:23
Quintasanurgh De Morgans law's was it?23:23
apacheloggerAND then set showNotification to false23:23
JontheEchidnahow goes it?23:23
Quintasanapachelogger: if ( !msg.from() || !d->eventList.isEmpty() )   ?23:23
* Quintasan did that based on maths logic23:24
apacheloggerworks, but another option is closer at hand ;)23:25
Quintasanso maths logic applies to c magic \o/23:25
apacheloggerQuintasan: I would go with !(foo && bar) for readablity23:26
Quintasanoh well23:26
apacheloggeralso it makes your diff more understandable since it becomes obvious that you invert the logic ;)23:26
Quintasanand with maths logic laws it would expand to what I did back there23:26
apacheloggeryeah, they are equivalent, but that does not mean that from a code style POV they are :P23:27
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: Quintasan is fixing the kopete23:28
Quintasanwhat the hell23:28
apacheloggerhm23:28
apacheloggerdpkg-deb: building package `python-kde4-doc' in `../python-kde4-doc_4.4.95-0ubuntu1_all.deb'.23:28
apacheloggerdpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 223:28
apacheloggerE: Failed autobuilding of package23:28
apacheloggerthat is the odd23:28
ScottKRiddell: The trick that no one mentioned at UDS for Kolab server stuff is it also needs PHP patching.  PHP is in Main and server team gets annoyed if I break it.23:28
QuintasanPYTHON :d23:29
Quintasanapachelogger: :D23:29
* apachelogger runs in verbose23:29
apacheloggerahhh23:30
apacheloggerdh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/usr/include/smoke/qtmultimedia_smoke.h debian/libsmokeqt4-dev//usr/include/smoke/ returned exit code 123:30
apacheloggermakes more sense23:30
Quintasanapachelogger: spam!23:30
Quintasanhaha23:30
Quintasanshow notifications23:30
Quintasan:P23:30
Quintasanwait23:31
Quintasanapachelogger: http://pastebin.ca/190966423:31
QuintasanThat's what I did23:31
Quintasanand it shows all notifications now23:31
apacheloggeroh is it not working?23:31
Quintasan:P23:31
apacheloggerall notification?23:32
apacheloggerah yeah23:32
apacheloggersee23:32
apacheloggeryou did not listen23:32
Quintasanfalse23:32
Quintasandamn23:32
apacheloggerright23:32
ulysseshttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports23:32
ulyssesAs in the HowTo was written23:33
Quintasanapachelogger: do want some delicious b's23:33
QuintasanYEAH23:33
Quintasancookies for apachelogger 23:33
Quintasantry now23:33
Quintasanyes!23:33
Quintasanthis is alive23:33
Quintasanmore cookies for apachelogger23:34
apacheloggerI would add a comment though, to ensure that people only change the var to false from that if(!away... onwards23:34
apacheloggerotherwise this might break again in the future23:35
Quintasanlet me clean up this mess fist23:35
apacheloggerI am sure JontheEchidna can sponsor ^^23:35
apacheloggerhe is a great KDE SVN sponsor ^^23:35
CIA-98[plasma-runner-installer] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100727223613-cm0my0re3nlq771y * installerrunner.cpp Quotation marks around the package name23:36
JontheEchidna^^23:36
Riddellapachelogger: yes libsmokeqtmultimedia4-3 is dust23:36
apacheloggerRiddell: poor thing :)23:36
apacheloggerwell I think that was the only thing that stood in the way of bindings building23:37
apacheloggerQuintasan: btw, my tip with installing kdelibs5-dev in the cow is speeding up things a lot23:37
Riddellapachelogger: if you did a screenshot of that kcm in English and with normal theme colours it would be more intelligable23:37
apachelogger^^23:38
apacheloggerRiddell: it is only about the sidebar thing23:38
apachelogger(which is in english :P)23:38
Quintasanapachelogger: I didn't to that with --save-after-login, let me try :P23:38
apacheloggerRiddell: the folder parts would have folderlists to edit and some description above, and the general section information like username and autostart and throttling and stuff23:39
CIA-98[plasma-runner-installer] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100727223858-vgd8wr4s29tw0do2 * installerrunner.cpp Include cleanups, plus less kDebug()23:39
ulyssesAfter adding the header: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports23:40
apacheloggerulysses: looking good, now it just needs some advertising :)23:42
apacheloggerlike the kubuntu-devel and kubuntu-users lists23:42
apacheloggeralthough23:42
Riddellapachelogger: putting it with the other shares modules does seem sensible23:42
apacheloggermaybe someone wants to add something still23:42
QuintasanI want!23:43
apacheloggerRiddell: yeah, I was intending tabs first, but that is really horrible, also not having tabs leaves more freedom with how to design the general settings "page"23:43
apacheloggeralso with the web page we can make up for settings that are yet missing ^^23:44
apacheloggerQuintasan: please go ahead23:44
apacheloggereveryone else please also take a quick look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports and add/enhance if you wish :)23:44
Quintasanthere you go23:47
Quintasanapachelogger: be sure to refresh the page23:47
QuintasanJontheEchidna: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/kopete_notifications.patch   <-- <323:49
ScottKWhere's the switch to turn m-i on/off in kmail?23:49
RiddellQuintasan: what's that for?23:50
QuintasanRiddell: kde bug Bug 18411323:50
ubottuBug 184113 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/184113 is private23:50
Quintasangrr23:50
Quintasankde bug 18411323:50
ubottuKDE bug 184113 in Notifications "No apparent way to disable events while status is Busy" [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18411323:50
RiddellScottK: not honestly sure23:52
ScottKagateau told me where to turn it on, but now I don't remember ....23:53
ulyssestime to sleep in UTC+2 (CEST), good night!23:56
Quintasanulysses: night23:56
Riddellsweet dreams23:57

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