JontheEchidna | ulysses: hi, are you sure the .pot your are using is up to date? Those really should be translatable... | 00:06 |
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JontheEchidna | they are i18n'd and all: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktophv1549 | 00:07 |
JontheEchidna | and if the other tabs are translatable, this one should too | 00:08 |
JontheEchidna | and those are the newest additions to the tabs | 00:08 |
Riddell | ScottK: kde4libs fix worked on ARM but compile failed on the very next file, fingers crossed for the next try | 00:13 |
ScottK | Riddell: Progress. You'll be expert soon. | 00:13 |
Riddell | maybe but I've never been a firefighter so I'll never get to be as cool as NCommander | 00:16 |
ScottK | Riddell: I'm sort of convinced "hiding" in the Plasma javascript stuff doesn't work as advertised on plasma netbook. | 00:26 |
Riddell | ScottK: is it a config option or something else? | 00:41 |
ScottK | Riddell: It's from http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting | 00:42 |
ScottK | I think I just figured it out. | 00:43 |
ScottK | It's not an attribute of the panel. It's an attribute of SAL. | 00:43 |
* ScottK tries that. | 00:46 | |
ScottK | Riddell: I don't seem to be able to get it to work there either. I tried sal.hiding = 'none' and sal.hiding('none'). The first one didn't work. The second one produced a crash. | 01:04 |
* ScottK gives up and goes to run some errands. | 01:05 | |
Riddell | ScottK: can you configure it from the UI? | 01:07 |
ScottK | Riddell: Yes. | 01:07 |
Riddell | ScottK: how? | 01:07 |
ScottK | Right click on the SAL cashew, then there's an autohide button just below the panel. | 01:07 |
ScottK | right/left | 01:08 |
Riddell | sal has a cashew? | 01:08 |
ScottK | Sure. | 01:08 |
ScottK | Lower left corner | 01:08 |
Riddell | oh there it is | 01:08 |
Riddell | [PlasmaViews][2] | 01:09 |
Riddell | panelAutoHide=false | 01:09 |
Riddell | so probably just needs that set in the config | 01:09 |
ScottK | I guess I was confused by the documentation that said to use "hiding" | 01:10 |
Riddell | hmm, well I'll look at it tomorrow | 01:11 |
ScottK | I'll fiddle with it a bit more. I'll let you know if I get it sorted. | 01:12 |
Riddell | yay, kdebindings compiled here, uploading | 01:12 |
ScottK | bindings or libs? | 01:12 |
Riddell | bindings | 01:12 |
ScottK | OK | 01:13 |
Riddell | without qt multimedia and with some fix for akonadi | 01:13 |
Riddell | libs will take some more hours to compile on ARM | 01:13 |
ScottK | Ah. Cool. | 01:15 |
* Riddell snoozes | 01:16 | |
* vorian requests a merge \o/ | 01:47 | |
* maco now using knr lappy | 01:56 | |
maco | knm is fail for 3g, btw | 01:56 |
jjesse | boo | 01:56 |
maco | apparently theres a mobile-broadband-info package (i think thats the name) | 01:56 |
maco | thats pulled in when you install nm-applet | 01:56 |
maco | and then nm-applet has a wizard that just pulls info from the xml file installed by that mobile broadband package and asks "so what country?" "what provider?" "which plan?" and does magic | 01:57 |
maco | whereas knm is like "so do you happen to know the name of the anp off-hand?" and you and the person at the t-mobile store are like "the what now?" | 01:57 |
maco | i'll have to play more, trying with copying some of the data from the xml file, but given bug reports back to jaunty saying it doesnt work on knm... | 01:58 |
ScottK | No suprise it didn't work then. It might be better now. | 02:04 |
* maco pouts at rekonq's continued crashes | 02:06 | |
maco | the one i saw on lp is marked "in progress" | 02:07 |
ScottK | maco: At today's meeting we decided to kick it out and re-evaluate if it might improve later. | 02:07 |
maco | ScottK: yes i saw :) | 02:07 |
maco | however konqueror is rendering poorly so i was hoping *one* of them would succeed. i think im gonna need firefox | 02:08 |
maco | jjesse: still around? | 02:20 |
jjesse | today i am | 02:20 |
DarkwingDuck | Where does the SVG for the new branding auto download to? | 03:27 |
valorie | maco, I too find rekonq excessively crashy | 03:29 |
valorie | and sometimes after I close it too | 03:29 |
valorie | which is....counter-intuitive | 03:30 |
maco | valorie: kontact usually claims to have crashed when i quit it | 03:45 |
DarkwingDuck | and don't get me started with akonadi :P:P | 03:46 |
DarkwingDuck | I'm working on a couple of card designs with the new Kubuntu Brand and the new Ubuntu Font. | 03:47 |
DarkwingDuck | I'll post them to the ML when I finish them. | 03:47 |
valorie | I've stayed away from kmail etc. until I hear better things about them | 03:59 |
valorie | I'll never put my email in danger again | 04:00 |
maco | mueslix: fix your network | 04:52 |
mueslix | maco: sorry | 04:53 |
ScottK | valorie: Fortunately Kmail in Lucid/Maverick doesn't use Akonadi for mail yet. It's just the addressbook. | 04:53 |
* ScottK has used Kmail for 5 years and (so far) never lost a message. | 04:53 | |
valorie | well, without email to populate it, the addressbook is a bit useless | 04:54 |
* ScottK knocks wood. | 04:54 | |
valorie | I used it for many years also | 04:54 |
valorie | mostly without problems | 04:54 |
mueslix | maco: actually, it's manual quits, not my network | 04:54 |
maco | the only issue i had with kmail is the time my hard drive filled and it couldnt close file descriptors | 04:54 |
mueslix | maco: didn't wanna annoy anyhone tho | 04:54 |
valorie | but now that our mail server changed, I'm just waiting, and using gmail as a backup | 04:54 |
maco | mueslix: oh. wow why were you in-n-outing so much? | 04:54 |
ScottK | I find I don't use the addressbook much. I mostly write mail to people based on recent addresses. | 04:54 |
mueslix | maco: hacking on kovnersation | 04:55 |
JontheEchidna | kmail2 is currently a disaster, and seeing KDE's track record of un-disaster-ifying new frameworks that currently suck but promise great shininess, I'm not hopeful :( | 04:55 |
vorian | kmail for 3ish years, no problems | 04:55 |
* maco nearly asked a stupid question | 04:55 | |
* maco confused konversation and kopete | 04:55 | |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: I think we've resolved that question at least for this cycle. | 04:55 |
mueslix | maco: kopete does have an irc plugin too, tho ;) | 04:55 |
JontheEchidna | well I must say I have my doubts for the long term as well, but I guess there's not much to be done about that... | 04:55 |
ScottK | mueslix: Not in KDE4. | 04:55 |
mueslix | maco: usually, i'd just connect to a test irc network for hacking, but in this case i need some live channels | 04:55 |
vorian | lol | 04:55 |
mueslix | ScottK: oh, right | 04:55 |
maco | mueslix: right. i was about to go "it can do irc?" and then realised that yes, duh, konversation is an irc client. i was thinking of kopete | 04:55 |
maco | oh wait you said "does" | 04:56 |
ScottK | maco: It could do IRC in KDE3 times. | 04:56 |
maco | havnet seen that | 04:56 |
ScottK | Not now. | 04:56 |
mueslix | figured 6am in the morning (europe time) doesn't offend to many people on the channels i'm on ;-) | 04:56 |
* maco still not a fan of kde3 | 04:56 | |
mueslix | kde3's been brilliant :) | 04:56 |
ScottK | It's the past in any case. | 04:57 |
valorie | It was good in its time | 04:58 |
maco | JontheEchidna: oh come on, only took 2 years for kde3 users to relent that kde4 is finally unsuckified :P | 05:00 |
maco | i mean undisasterified | 05:00 |
JontheEchidna | nepomuk still sucks, for example | 05:00 |
JontheEchidna | and what's been done so far with akonadi hasn't been exactly pleasant | 05:01 |
vorian | it has a moar cool icon though | 05:01 |
JontheEchidna | heh | 05:01 |
JontheEchidna | don't get me wrong, the platform's nice, in general. | 05:01 |
JontheEchidna | but certain components would not be missed if they were dropped, in my opinion | 05:02 |
valorie | what would you like to see disappear? | 05:02 |
JontheEchidna | akonadi, for the most part | 05:03 |
vorian | artwork underway | 05:07 |
* vorian is sad being in such a weird timezone | 05:07 | |
valorie | I haven't used it | 05:07 |
vorian | whoa | 05:08 |
vorian | this is almost as bad as when I broke the network :P | 05:10 |
valorie_ | woah, I lost my scrollback | 05:10 |
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valorie | that was a bit of a split | 05:11 |
vorian | did you get disconnected? | 05:11 |
valorie | yes | 05:11 |
valorie | doesn't usually happen, but oh, well | 05:11 |
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ulysses | JontheEchidna: yes, both .pot is up to date | 06:09 |
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apachelogger | JontheEchidna: oh oh, you should take a look at the akonadi design itself | 08:42 |
apachelogger | it is made out of awesome | 08:42 |
apachelogger | unfortunately the implementation up until now was not anything like it :/ | 08:43 |
fabo | Riddell: phonon-backend-vlc needs libvlc, libvlccore and the modules. Unfortunately, the modules are shipped with vlc package. | 08:43 |
fabo | Riddell: I'll see if the vlc maintainers could improve the situation | 08:43 |
Riddell | fabo: that makes sense | 08:59 |
apachelogger | Riddell, ScottK: MI does not allow hiding like "minimize to tray"? | 08:59 |
fabo | Riddell: Opened #590545 in vlc 1.1.1-1 | 09:00 |
Riddell | apachelogger: we have a task bar to minimise apps to | 09:01 |
apachelogger | so you were complaining about the tray icons eating space in the tray but are fine with the taskbaritem that eats like 5 times as much? Oo | 09:02 |
CIA-98 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727081730-k28i7kq6ovqb8iby * src/statusnotifier/ (CMakeLists.txt StatusNotifier.cpp) kwebview && i18nc++ && proper strings | 09:17 |
CIA-98 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727082223-1rj2zng2e2s9q3du * src/statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp set proper window icon | 09:22 |
CIA-98 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727082831-5pxwh30d9w6mck59 * sn-kcm-close-kcm-authkwalletaccess.kcrash (log message trimmed) | 09:29 |
CIA-98 | add backtrace of very weird crash that happened when starting the kcm from the | 09:29 |
CIA-98 | status notifier, waiting a bit, closing it, THEN ack the meanwhile appeared | 09:29 |
SeLecT | spanis | 09:38 |
Mamarok | SeLecT: no, English only here | 09:39 |
SeLecT | ok | 09:39 |
SeLecT | istall zatto en kubuntu ? | 09:39 |
SeLecT | install zattoo kubuntu ' | 09:40 |
Mamarok | SeLecT: please go to #kubuntu-es for support in Spanish | 09:40 |
SeLecT | ok | 09:40 |
CIA-98 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727085646-fxl17i6mfwi0uo9g * TODO add targets (as identified before midterm eval) to todo | 09:57 |
* apachelogger finds his u1 kcm horrible -.- | 10:04 | |
valorie | what's so awful about it? | 10:04 |
apachelogger | everything | 10:05 |
apachelogger | there is no concept behind it | 10:05 |
valorie | :( | 10:05 |
apachelogger | it is just a pile of options (or actually it doesnt even do much -.-) | 10:05 |
valorie | you seem to have lost your enjoyment in this project | 10:05 |
valorie | it's sad to see..... | 10:05 |
valorie | did you have a nice birthday, though? | 10:09 |
apachelogger | any opinions on http://imagebin.ca/view/Ph_PyO.html | 10:20 |
apachelogger | valorie: I slept through one half and was travelling the other ;) | 10:21 |
apachelogger | Riddell: ^^^^^ kcm | 10:21 |
apachelogger | in the folder sections one can manage publication and sharing, general basically contains what is visible right now (without that additional tab) and web just contains a kwebview to the website | 10:22 |
* apachelogger doesnt really know what more to configure at this point anyway | 10:23 | |
valorie | it looks good to me | 10:31 |
valorie | at least as good as u1-original | 10:31 |
Tm_T | uh, I'm no longer moderated in k-c-d? :o | 10:32 |
apachelogger | probably people became tired of passing you through :P | 10:34 |
apachelogger | i hear that is how you get into kcd ^^ | 10:34 |
apachelogger | valorie: only? :O | 10:34 |
* apachelogger wants it to be superior | 10:34 | |
Tm_T | apachelogger: I can be very tiresome to deal with, that's for sure | 10:34 |
valorie | apachelogger: while I like a pretty config screen | 10:37 |
valorie | what is more important is the dang thing working | 10:37 |
valorie | which so far....not for me | 10:37 |
apachelogger | you wanna know why? | 10:37 |
apachelogger | because of the python stuff :P | 10:37 |
apachelogger | and because of very poor design | 10:38 |
apachelogger | like components manually trying to get authentication tokens ... which means each component that I do not replace must be patched to not only look in gnome-keyring but also kwallet | 10:38 |
apachelogger | ... | 10:38 |
valorie | I've been hearing you bewail the -original state | 10:38 |
valorie | so you have a moving target | 10:39 |
valorie | and generally, when one has a moving target, you move to a shotgun | 10:39 |
valorie | :( | 10:39 |
apachelogger | very true | 10:40 |
valorie | that's sort of the opposite of the elegant program which is the ideal | 10:41 |
valorie | I guess the cloud is a cloudy concept over there | 10:41 |
CIA-98 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727094258-880vmpz7fcyfy2wj * src/ (kcmodule/Module.cpp statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp) clean ups and downs | 10:43 |
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CIA-98 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100727100620-pndj6cbw8rhko9c2 * dolphin.txt add notes on what is necessary in dolphin | 11:06 |
=== shadeslayer changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu, making your PC friendly | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | http://tinyurl.com/28vjuea | KDE 4.5 Packaging https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | ||
Quintasan | sheytan: what abut that bzr-fastimport? | 14:49 |
Quintasan | sheytan: meant for shadeslayer | 14:49 |
sheytan | :) | 14:49 |
ScottK | Riddell: I had no luck last night with figuring out autohide in the javascript for netbook. | 14:55 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: we can import kdelibs with it | 14:55 |
shadeslayer | i think | 14:55 |
ScottK | Riddell: I gave notmart a ping about it in #plasma-netbook. | 14:56 |
ScottK | Riddell: notmart explained it to me. k-n-d-s upload shortly. | 15:07 |
CIA-98 | [muon] jmthomas * 1155504 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonStrings.cpp Remove duplicate entry for mail, copy/paste error BUG: 245915 | 15:12 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 245915 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "Puller breaks when dest directory is not a branch but has a bzrdir" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245915 | 15:12 |
dantti_ | JontheEchidna: http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plasmadesktopp21573.jpg | 15:18 |
JontheEchidna | dantti_: neat :) | 15:18 |
dantti_ | much better imo | 15:18 |
stalcup | Riddell: did you get my poke about artwork and accessability? | 15:20 |
shadeslayer | ooooooohhhhhhhh http://www.afiestas.org/ | 15:50 |
shadeslayer | most importantly.. bluedevil | 15:50 |
shadeslayer | will we ship it? | 15:50 |
* oxymoron cries over that KDE dev team hvaent fixed everything and doesnt introduce anything new :/ | 16:17 | |
oxymoron | KDE 4.5 RC 3 and nothing new yet ... | 16:17 |
ScottK | oxymoron: It's an RC, it's not supposed to introduce anything new. | 16:20 |
oxymoron | ScottK: And Final should? xD | 16:20 |
oxymoron | ScottK: I mean 4.5 doesnt introcude antyhing compared to 4.4? | 16:20 |
ScottK | Oh. | 16:21 |
ScottK | Sure it does. | 16:21 |
oxymoron | Only some minor fixes that shouldve been take care of light years ago. | 16:21 |
oxymoron | Webkit for KOnwueror, Reworked notification blaha and so on? :S | 16:22 |
Riddell | shtylman: I've seen ev's ubiquity branch for maverick and it scares me | 16:32 |
Riddell | lots of changes | 16:32 |
Riddell | ScottK: nothing new in lp:~kubuntu-netbook/kubuntu-netbook/default-settings did you commit? | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: pokes | 16:33 |
ScottK | Riddell: I didn't yet. I'm also trying to get the battery to appear in the tray by default (and the MI). | 16:33 |
shtylman | Riddell: it scares me too | 16:34 |
shtylman | ive started looking at it | 16:34 |
ScottK | If you've got that stuff, I can push my autohide change. | 16:34 |
shadeslayer | i think we can do s/QDialog/KDialog to upgrade manager... whats your take? | 16:34 |
Riddell | shtylman: upgrade manager I've always wanted to keep as simple as possible, I'm slightly scared that if it changes to a KDE app it'll have permissions problems same as we occationally get with ubiquity | 16:36 |
Riddell | shadeslayer rather ^^ | 16:36 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: apachelogger wanted me to transition it | 16:36 |
Riddell | ScottK: not to hand I don't, can they take the code from plasma-desktop? | 16:37 |
shtylman | Riddell: I have never touched upgrade manager so can't really comment on that one :/ | 16:37 |
ScottK | Riddell: They are there, it's just a question of getting them in the default config. | 16:37 |
ScottK | Good point though, let me look how it is there. | 16:37 |
Riddell | stalcup: hmm bzr won't let me merge your branches | 16:42 |
Riddell | moaning about versions being incompatible | 16:42 |
Riddell | copied by hand and merged, thanks | 16:42 |
Riddell | apachelogger: my only comment on your kcm screenshot is that your colour scheme is ugly :) | 16:46 |
shadeslayer | ^ lol | 16:47 |
ScottK | Riddell: I'm borrowing your config stuff from k-d-s and will try it in netbook. | 16:51 |
mfraz74 | experiencing trouble with maverick on a i915 based laptop | 17:03 |
mfraz74 | splash screen is messed up and desktop effects are disabled | 17:05 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: seen mail on kde-packager? | 17:05 |
shadeslayer | by sebas | 17:05 |
shadeslayer | /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches for us currently is 8192 | 17:05 |
shadeslayer | which is *small* | 17:06 |
mfraz74 | any ideas? | 17:06 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: no, what's it say? | 17:07 |
Riddell | oh trueg | 17:07 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/9X26M2ts | 17:07 |
Riddell | yes we should ponder that | 17:07 |
shadeslayer | maybe talk to #ubuntu-kernel or such? | 17:07 |
Riddell | yes probably, I wonder who on the kernel team would care | 17:09 |
shadeslayer | hehe | 17:09 |
shadeslayer | im in there right now | 17:09 |
mfraz74 | is kde 4.5 rc3 going to be built for the kubuntu beta ppa? | 17:10 |
mfraz74 | just had the printer applet crash on maverick | 17:12 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: would we want usr/share/kde4/services/searchproviders/bing.desktop and usr/share/kde4/services/searchproviders/baidu.desktop | 17:13 |
shadeslayer | in kdebase-runtime | 17:13 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: yes, they should be in the .install files alreayd no? | 17:14 |
shadeslayer | theyre not | 17:14 |
shadeslayer | ill add them | 17:14 |
Riddell | in kdebase-runtime-data.install | 17:15 |
shadeslayer | yep | 17:15 |
shadeslayer | any specific files for manpages? | 17:15 |
Riddell | how do you mean? | 17:15 |
shadeslayer | dh_install: usr/share/man/man1/kdesu.1 exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere | 17:16 |
Riddell | kdesu isn't a user command | 17:18 |
Riddell | so just leave it uninstalled | 17:18 |
shadeslayer | ok | 17:19 |
shadeslayer | anything else about the other 2? | 17:20 |
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shadeslayer | wait.. :P | 17:21 |
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shadeslayer | dh_install: usr/share/man/man8/nepomukservicestub.8 exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere | 17:22 |
shadeslayer | and dh_install: usr/share/man/man8/nepomukserver.8 exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere | 17:22 |
shadeslayer | i doubt we need those | 17:22 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: If we install the binaries, we should install the man pages. | 17:22 |
shadeslayer | uh.. | 17:22 |
ScottK | kdesu is a bit special since we divert it to kdesudo. | 17:22 |
shadeslayer | for the last 2? | 17:22 |
Riddell | you can add them to kdebase-runtime.manpages | 17:23 |
ScottK | Yes (I'm assuming we install the binaries) | 17:23 |
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shadeslayer | Riddell: they were commented in kdebase-runtime.install | 17:23 |
ScottK | Riddell: If https://launchpad.net/~kitterman/+archive/ppa/+build/1892006 works, I'll upload it. | 17:23 |
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Riddell | shadeslayer: add manpages to kdebase-runtime.manpages | 17:25 |
mfraz74 | any idea what this means: opengl compositing self-check failed, falling back to xrender ? | 17:25 |
Riddell | it means opengl isn't working | 17:26 |
mfraz74 | Riddell: I'm sure it was ok in 10.04 as the desktop effects were working, now in 10.10 they are not | 17:27 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/wjfT503u | 17:30 |
shadeslayer | so i guess... modify rules file? | 17:31 |
shadeslayer | a more legible version http://pastebin.com/XkEd5SrL | 17:32 |
dantti_ | Riddell: works now :D http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopo21573 | 17:35 |
shadeslayer | dantti_: new kpk? | 17:35 |
dantti_ | shadeslayer: sort of, the screen shot is to show the new aptcc that get distro upgrades | 17:36 |
dantti_ | shadeslayer: but the update ui is different | 17:36 |
shadeslayer | ah :D | 17:36 |
shadeslayer | looks somewhat better ;) | 17:36 |
dantti_ | I'm going to remove the update groups, the second column and trie to reduce the line height | 17:37 |
dantti_ | and invert the package name and description | 17:37 |
dantti_ | since most people (including me) started to hate it :P | 17:38 |
JontheEchidna | hehe | 17:38 |
JontheEchidna | the latest in plasma runner technologies: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopja7655 | 17:39 |
JontheEchidna | it's like command-not-found, only for the runner | 17:39 |
dantti_ | JontheEchidna: hmm nice how it works? | 17:39 |
shadeslayer | ooh | 17:39 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: nice | 17:39 |
JontheEchidna | dantti_: it grabs the sterr of /usr/lib/command-not-found :P (a bit ugly) | 17:40 |
shadeslayer | aww.. we had kubotu :P | 17:40 |
dantti_ | JontheEchidna: it would be nice if it use packagekit so other distros could have it :) | 17:40 |
JontheEchidna | *stderr | 17:40 |
dantti_ | hmm | 17:40 |
JontheEchidna | and then it calls an installer via kprocess | 17:40 |
dantti_ | there is a command not found in packagekit dunno if it works.. :P | 17:40 |
JontheEchidna | if you click on it | 17:40 |
dantti_ | pretty nice | 17:41 |
JontheEchidna | http://pastebin.com/JjU5PeN8 | 17:41 |
shadeslayer | oh gawd no | 17:41 |
shadeslayer | noooooooooooooo | 17:41 |
shadeslayer | konsole crashed taking my chroot with it.. which had mod to all files :S | 17:41 |
shadeslayer | and i dont remember the location :/ | 17:41 |
shadeslayer | aw man :S | 17:42 |
JontheEchidna | if kde can't find the program via KService, it'll see if command-not-found knows what package the string belongs to | 17:43 |
JontheEchidna | and then if it finds one it'll return a result that you can click on to install it | 17:43 |
JontheEchidna | this could go great in kickoff | 17:43 |
JontheEchidna | for example if you just recently (re)installed linux and you didn't have an app that you usually have, you could very conveniently just click on that to install it | 17:44 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: do you haz cowbuilder? | 17:44 |
JontheEchidna | nope, I usually just use pbuilder | 17:44 |
shadeslayer | :S | 17:45 |
shadeslayer | ill have to do all of it over again :/ | 17:45 |
JontheEchidna | aww, patching kickoff to add the installer runner to the list of allowed installers is a one-line patch, but it can't do an out-of-source build :( | 17:47 |
JontheEchidna | I don't wanna build all of kdebase-workspace :( | 17:47 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: btw do i want to install usr/share/man/man8/nepomukserver.8 | 17:47 |
shadeslayer | and usr/share/man/man8/nepomukservicestub.8 | 17:48 |
JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: debhelper takes care of manpages. those are all false positives | 17:48 |
shadeslayer | alrighty then | 17:48 |
shadeslayer | runtime->done() | 17:48 |
maco | ok, now i have enough computers to take an interest in that U1 think apachelogger is doing | 18:03 |
sheytan | hey guys | 18:03 |
sheytan | http://a.imageshack.us/img638/2390/basetest.jpg This one, or this one: http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7032/base2test.jpg | 18:04 |
Riddell | kde4libs still going on ARM... | 18:04 |
Riddell | basetest.jpg doesn't have an obvious typo :) | 18:04 |
sheytan | Riddell :D | 18:07 |
sheytan | will fix it :D | 18:08 |
sheytan | but, which one? :D | 18:08 |
maco | they both have obvious typos | 18:08 |
maco | bastest has "agan" instead of "again" | 18:08 |
maco | and base2test has "whatch" instead of "watch" | 18:08 |
sheytan | Don't look at typos :P Look at the layout | 18:08 |
* maco hands Riddell glasses | 18:08 | |
maco | sheytan: i like basetest. light & airy | 18:09 |
shadeslayer | sheytan: +1 to base2test | 18:09 |
shadeslayer | and send me the image | 18:10 |
maco | i dont like the thick black bar on base2test | 18:10 |
shadeslayer | ^ that can be improved ... | 18:10 |
sheytan | shadeslayer is right ;D | 18:11 |
sheytan | http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/wallpaper/widescreen/?qh=§ion=&q=field++of++dreams#/d1ut0zi wallpaper :) | 18:13 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: Yes. | 18:16 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: ok | 18:17 |
shadeslayer | i wonder how hard will it be to implement http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=37532 | 18:17 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: why would we bother, isn't that for local imports? | 18:17 |
shadeslayer | local imports? | 18:17 |
shadeslayer | as in on the HD? | 18:18 |
Quintasan | yes | 18:18 |
shadeslayer | hmm... i thought it was for lp imports | 18:18 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: go and do the kdebase | 18:23 |
Quintasan | :P | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: its building in cowbuilder | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | its almost doen | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | *done | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | will upload in 25 mins | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | if cowbuilder permits | 18:23 |
Quintasan | what about kdebase-runtime and workspace? | 18:24 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: i was talking about runtime | 18:24 |
shadeslayer | workspace comes next | 18:24 |
Quintasan | ok | 18:24 |
shadeslayer | kdebase is up already | 18:25 |
shadeslayer | cowbuilder->hate() | 18:33 |
shadeslayer | where is lex these days? 0_o | 18:34 |
Riddell | he told me he was on holiday | 18:35 |
Riddell | in Hamburg | 18:35 |
shadeslayer | ahh... see how we are handicapped without him :) | 18:35 |
shadeslayer | stupid cowbuilder :/ | 18:35 |
Quintasan | whats your problem? works fine here | 18:36 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: and. well, TBH I'm just waiting on dependecies to be ready | 18:37 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: dude.. slow HD | 18:38 |
shadeslayer | i started cowbuilder 30 mins ago | 18:38 |
shadeslayer | and its still setting up stuff | 18:38 |
Quintasan | this must a damn old hd i assume | 18:39 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: only a year old :S | 18:39 |
shadeslayer | but | 18:39 |
shadeslayer | i think.. its because i have BTRFS | 18:39 |
ryanakca | shadeslayer: Mine's the same age and acts the same. Maybe not 30 minutes, but still slow | 18:39 |
Quintasan | oh | 18:40 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: switch from it then | 18:40 |
shadeslayer | yeah after next alpha probably | 18:40 |
Quintasan | I see not point in using it when it is sooo slow | 18:40 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: ryanakca http://imgur.com/ngiZ2 | 18:41 |
Quintasan | what is that? | 18:42 |
shadeslayer | the app? | 18:42 |
Quintasan | yea | 18:42 |
shadeslayer | !info gnome-disk-utility | 18:42 |
ubottu | gnome-disk-utility (source: gnome-disk-utility): manage and configure disk drives and media. In component main, is optional. Version 2.30.1-1 (lucid), package size 450 kB, installed size 7852 kB | 18:42 |
Quintasan | GNOME has such a machine? | 18:42 |
Quintasan | we need better tool in KDE then | 18:42 |
shadeslayer | yeah | 18:42 |
shadeslayer | totally ^ | 18:43 |
shadeslayer | infact | 18:43 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: ill reformat this weekend | 18:43 |
shadeslayer | btrfs-- | 18:43 |
shadeslayer | btrfs-- | 18:43 |
shadeslayer | ill start work on kdebase-workspace till then | 18:45 |
ScottK | Riddell: k-n-d-s done in the archive and in bzr. I also fixed up favorites while I was there. | 18:52 |
Riddell | ScottK: what was up with favourites? | 18:52 |
ScottK | Riddell: Switched back to Konqueror from Rekonq (per yesterday's meeting) and put KMail back in place of Kontact (Kontact is just too much on a netbook). | 18:53 |
Riddell | you think notebook users don't want addressbook or calendar or other bits of kontact? | 18:54 |
ScottK | We've also had KMail in Netbook favorites for the last two releases. | 18:54 |
ScottK | There's a contacts icon in the search and launch directly. | 18:54 |
ScottK | Calendar is available in the Office section. | 18:54 |
ScottK | It's just too much all at once on a small screen. | 18:55 |
Riddell | right | 18:56 |
shadeslayer | omg.. workspace bzr is huge :P | 18:57 |
ScottK | In any case, battery and M-I are in the default layout now (copying your js from desktop worked), so we just need k-d-s updated to enable M-I be default for Quassel/Kopete and make the tray icons go away. | 18:57 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: Everything about -workspace is huge. | 18:58 |
Riddell | ScottK: hmm I wonder how that interacts with the kubuntu_105_netbook_favourites.diff patch in kdebase-workspace | 18:58 |
shadeslayer | awesome :D | 18:58 |
ScottK | Riddell: We can drop that now. It's the javascript that's deciding. | 18:58 |
Riddell | ScottK: but it's needed for ubiquity | 18:58 |
ScottK | Riddell: Oh? | 18:59 |
ScottK | Sigh. | 18:59 |
dantti_ | new kpk updater, it only misses the update kind emblem.. http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopp21573 | 18:59 |
ScottK | OK. Can we do the ubiquity bits in the javascript? | 18:59 |
Quintasan | ARGH | 19:00 |
Riddell | ScottK: not as far as I know, you can't query for the existence of files | 19:00 |
* Quintasan turns off everything too stop the distractions from coming | 19:00 | |
Quintasan | :S | 19:00 |
ScottK | Riddell: I guess we need to leave it then. | 19:00 |
Riddell | dantti_: ooh, nice :) | 19:01 |
maco | Riddell: cant query file existence where? | 19:01 |
Riddell | dantti_: where would the update emblem go? | 19:01 |
* ScottK highlights Quintasan a couple of times to help him make sure he's got distractions turned off. | 19:01 | |
ScottK | Heya Quintasan. | 19:01 |
Riddell | maco: in plasma config javascript | 19:01 |
maco | Riddell: oh. nevermind... | 19:01 |
dantti_ | Riddell: I was thinkg next to the summary of the package | 19:01 |
ScottK | Riddell: Maybe we could have a patch that provides something like "if (isUbiquity)" so it could work in layout.js like "if (hasBattery)" does? | 19:03 |
ScottK | Then you could do the needed bits in layout.js. | 19:03 |
Riddell | ScottK: that would be more elegant, not sure what would be required though | 19:03 |
ScottK | Riddell: I think what would be required is to tell agateau to do it... ;-) | 19:04 |
ScottK | Actually I bet shtylman could handle it. | 19:04 |
maco | ScottK: are you heading up to debconf? | 19:04 |
* ScottK gets back to $WORK. | 19:05 | |
ScottK | maco: No. | 19:05 |
CIA-98 | [muon] jmthomas * 1155610 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/ (Messages.sh src/Messages.sh) Make Messages.sh more reliable, and also move it to the toplevel directory. Fixes incomplete .pot generation BUG:245838 | 19:05 |
JontheEchidna | ulysses: ^ | 19:07 |
JontheEchidna | next scripty run should fix things | 19:08 |
ulysses | where is kubotu, I want to order cookies for JontheEchidna | 19:12 |
shadeslayer | ulysses: ask jussi | 19:12 |
JontheEchidna | hmm, I suppose I should have CCMAIL'd kde-i18n-doc for a heads-up | 19:13 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: i actually had runtime fix0red.. but at the last moment konsole went down taking down my cowbuilder chroot with it | 19:13 |
ulysses | JontheEchidna: Muon is really great, I think it's better than all other package manager | 19:14 |
JontheEchidna | :) | 19:15 |
shadeslayer | ulysses: shhhh.. dantti_'s here | 19:15 |
shadeslayer | he will be upset :P | 19:15 |
ulysses | The UI is more usable | 19:15 |
ulysses | shadeslayer: why? | 19:15 |
shadeslayer | ulysses: dantti == kpk dev | 19:15 |
shadeslayer | :P | 19:16 |
ulysses | o.O | 19:16 |
dantti_ | :P well kpk hasn't all that cool ui, but it is meant to be simple and hide advanced features that most users don't need... | 19:17 |
dantti_ | two different use cases | 19:17 |
dantti_ | it's like kpk vs shaman, kpk vs synaptics :P | 19:17 |
shadeslayer | add muon there too ^ | 19:17 |
dantti_ | yup :P | 19:17 |
dantti_ | Muon should be full featured while KPK should be simple and got to all distros... | 19:18 |
dantti_ | s/got/go | 19:18 |
ulysses | I get it | 19:18 |
dantti_ | but if you have any ideas to get it better please say so :) | 19:19 |
dantti_ | ulysses: I'm trying to improve the updates ui now -> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopp21573 | 19:19 |
ulysses | I should translate KPackageKit too, it's untranslated in svn | 19:22 |
ulysses | so many translation to do, and not enough translator:( | 19:23 |
dantti_ | hehe | 19:25 |
JontheEchidna | oh my dpkg! | 19:50 |
JontheEchidna | armel actually managed to beat all other arches: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-vlc/0.2.0-1ubuntu1 | 19:50 |
* shadeslayer is ranting about btrfs on #ubuntu-kernel | 19:51 | |
Quintasan | lol | 19:51 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: :D | 19:51 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: Have you ever hacked on Kopete before? | 19:52 |
JontheEchidna | nope | 19:52 |
* Quintasan wants to make Kopete turn notifications off when status == DnD | 19:52 | |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: theres a GUI option for that | 19:53 |
shadeslayer | lemme se | 19:53 |
Quintasan | You sure? I can't find it | 19:53 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: Settings > Configure > Behaviour > Events | 19:54 |
shadeslayer | under Misc. its Enable events when away | 19:55 |
shadeslayer | so you untick that | 19:55 |
shadeslayer | which should do it | 19:55 |
Quintasan | omfg | 19:55 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: it works right? | 19:56 |
Quintasan | well | 19:56 |
Quintasan | It works with Away | 19:56 |
Quintasan | I wonder what if I set Do no disturb | 19:56 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: yeah so simply edit DnD to reflect away | 19:56 |
shadeslayer | File > Set Status > Edit Status | 19:56 |
shadeslayer | DnD > Category > Away | 19:57 |
shadeslayer | done! :D | 19:57 |
Quintasan | doesnt work | 19:57 |
Quintasan | :/ | 19:57 |
shadeslayer | brrrr | 19:57 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: use Away then :P | 19:58 |
shadeslayer | or rename Away to DnD | 19:58 |
shadeslayer | see.. no h4x00ring required | 19:58 |
Quintasan | Away doesn't work too | 19:58 |
shadeslayer | :O | 19:58 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: but you just said it worked :P | 19:59 |
Quintasan | it just stopped | 20:00 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: I think dantti_ is doing something kopete-related | 20:00 |
shadeslayer | lol | 20:00 |
JontheEchidna | but I think that's a rewrite he's doing... | 20:00 |
Quintasan | this is misleading! | 20:01 |
shadeslayer | i definitely need a desktop | 20:01 |
Quintasan | grrr | 20:03 |
* shadeslayer steals Quintasan's instead | 20:04 | |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: if you're still doing archive-admin-y things, phonon-backends source needs to go. (moved back to phonon source) | 20:04 |
shadeslayer | and plasma-widget-fastuserswitch needs sync ^ | 20:05 |
shadeslayer | oh wait | 20:05 |
shadeslayer | its syncd :D | 20:05 |
shadeslayer | everyone enjoy your shiny new plasmoid | 20:05 |
shadeslayer | bah.. it aint.. thats the local package i installed :S | 20:06 |
Quintasan | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm | 20:08 |
Quintasan | is Away checks for Busy too | 20:08 |
Quintasan | but it doesn't work anyways | 20:08 |
Quintasan | the feature is there but it does not work | 20:10 |
Quintasan | :/ | 20:10 |
shadeslayer | heh :P | 20:11 |
Quintasan | kde bug Bug 184113 | 20:12 |
ubottu | Bug 184113 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/184113 is private | 20:12 |
Quintasan | grr | 20:12 |
Quintasan | kde bug 184113 | 20:13 |
ubottu | KDE bug 184113 in Notifications "No apparent way to disable events while status is Busy" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=184113 | 20:13 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: how do you list missing files with CDBS? | 20:13 |
shadeslayer | also | 20:13 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: hooks | 20:14 |
shadeslayer | manpages are not installed, ScottK told me to install then whereas JontheEchidna says they are false positives :p | 20:14 |
shadeslayer | so... | 20:14 |
shadeslayer | # list-missing files result:-./usr/share/man/man1/kdesu.1 -./usr/share/man/man8/nepomukserver.8 -./usr/share/man/man8/nepomukservicestub.8 | 20:15 |
Quintasan | cdbs hook lists em as missing cause they get compressed | 20:15 |
ScottK | I just said the man pages should be installed. | 20:15 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: i know | 20:15 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: ^^ am I right? | 20:15 |
ScottK | If they're already installed, then don't worry about it. | 20:15 |
shadeslayer | <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: debhelper takes care of manpages. those are all false positives | 20:15 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: right, they get compressed and automagically added to the package by debhelper | 20:15 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: theyre not | 20:15 |
shadeslayer | i do see them from the B10 hook | 20:15 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: cdbs is treating them as missing because they get compressed, just make sure they are in install files | 20:16 |
JontheEchidna | easy way to convince yourself that they are already installed: man nepomukserver | 20:16 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: theyre not.. should i put then> | 20:16 |
JontheEchidna | they are installed | 20:16 |
shadeslayer | 0_o | 20:16 |
JontheEchidna | just not those files | 20:16 |
shadeslayer | not here | 20:16 |
shadeslayer | No manual entry for nepomukserver | 20:17 |
shadeslayer | and http://pastebin.com/SD0AG5p0 | 20:17 |
JontheEchidna | http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktophi7655 | 20:17 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: you do not even need *.install entires for man files? | 20:18 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: nope, debhelper takes care of that | 20:18 |
Quintasan | neat | 20:18 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: just ignore this :< | 20:18 |
shadeslayer | okies | 20:18 |
shadeslayer | kdebase runtime uploading then | 20:18 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=184113 do you have powers to set that as confirmed? | 20:20 |
ubottu | KDE bug 184113 in Notifications "No apparent way to disable events while status is Busy" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 20:21 |
JontheEchidna | yeah, though I doubt it'll really mean anything | 20:21 |
JontheEchidna | confirmed | 20:21 |
shadeslayer | hehe | 20:21 |
Quintasan | better than sitting unconfirmed | 20:22 |
JontheEchidna | eh | 20:22 |
JontheEchidna | not really | 20:22 |
Quintasan | why not? | 20:22 |
JontheEchidna | because it just doesn't really matter in kde bug land | 20:23 |
Quintasan | >bug | 20:23 |
Quintasan | >magic | 20:23 |
Quintasan | There, I fixed it for you Sir | 20:23 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: where do you set the bug to confirmed btw? | 20:23 |
shadeslayer | status? | 20:23 |
JontheEchidna | yeah | 20:23 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: You need additional pylons to do that | 20:24 |
JontheEchidna | they use "NEW" for confirmed | 20:24 |
shadeslayer | hmm.. the only field i cant edit there | 20:24 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: i haz additional pylons | 20:24 |
shadeslayer | not all of them tho ^_^ | 20:24 |
Quintasan | That means you do not have pylons needed | 20:24 |
shadeslayer | hmm.. this cough syrup does not work :/ | 20:25 |
shadeslayer | im still coughing :P | 20:25 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: runtime uploaded | 20:25 |
shadeslayer | workspace coming up in 30 mins i guess | 20:26 |
Quintasan | great | 20:26 |
shadeslayer | if i dont have alot of issues | 20:26 |
dantti_ | what do you think about the smaller rows? http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopt21573 | 20:28 |
Quintasan | looks good | 20:29 |
Quintasan | grrr | 20:32 |
Quintasan | me need to grab debug libs | 20:32 |
shadeslayer | man | 20:34 |
shadeslayer | i need to type 60 pages :/ | 20:34 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: btw you applied for UDS last time right? | 20:36 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: seems that https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeadmin/+bug/331192 cannot be fixed with given patch :( | 20:38 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 331192 in kdeadmin (Ubuntu) "KDE printer configuration app stopped working on Lucid (TypeError in set_widget_value())" [Medium,In progress] | 20:38 |
JontheEchidna | the bug shouldn't have been reopened | 20:40 |
JontheEchidna | closing again | 20:40 |
shadeslayer | uh.... | 20:41 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: i just commented on it :P | 20:41 |
JontheEchidna | yeah, on a random issue somebody polluted the original report with | 20:42 |
shadeslayer | it still isnt fixed tho | 20:42 |
JontheEchidna | the issue reported is fixed | 20:42 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/EbnwG | 20:43 |
shadeslayer | thats from maverick | 20:43 |
JontheEchidna | maverick is suffering from bug 591980 | 20:43 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 591980 in kdeadmin (Ubuntu) "system-config-printer-kde missing error" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591980 | 20:43 |
shadeslayer | ah | 20:44 |
shadeslayer | do we has patch> | 20:44 |
shadeslayer | or new build dep has to be added? | 20:45 |
JontheEchidna | it has to be ported | 20:45 |
shadeslayer | python-cupsutils << ? | 20:45 |
shadeslayer | or the app itself? | 20:45 |
JontheEchidna | the app itself | 20:45 |
shadeslayer | ah ok | 20:46 |
* shadeslayer goes to look at some more | 20:47 | |
shadeslayer | uh | 20:48 |
shadeslayer | bug 600177 can be closed imo | 20:49 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 600177 in choqok (Ubuntu Maverick) "choqok fails to build from source in maverick" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600177 | 20:49 |
shadeslayer | since we had a new choqok upload | 20:49 |
JontheEchidna | yeah, closed | 20:50 |
shadeslayer | you closed it? | 20:50 |
shadeslayer | :P | 20:50 |
JontheEchidna | yeah | 20:50 |
shadeslayer | hehe | 20:50 |
* apachelogger is back home \\o/ | 20:50 | |
shadeslayer | i just did too :p | 20:50 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: wb | 20:50 |
apachelogger | Riddell: *sob* any comments regarding the structuring though? | 20:51 |
apachelogger | Riddell: also about the update manager thingy ... currently it is bugged && partially not translated | 20:51 |
apachelogger | latter is very likely from using a QDialog with QDialog buttons (though since it is a kapp it should fetch kde-qt translation ... which makes the whole thing a bit odd) | 20:52 |
apachelogger | so | 20:52 |
Quintasan | lol, apachelogger comes and spams channel with unsorted business :P | 20:52 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: \o/ | 20:52 |
apachelogger | now that I am home I can commit stuff again | 20:52 |
apachelogger | and take part in the 4.5 rcFooBar packaging | 20:52 |
apachelogger | also I have great plans for shopping this week | 20:53 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: We left you bindings | 20:53 |
shadeslayer | :D | 20:53 |
Quintasan | seems there are problems with python | 20:53 |
apachelogger | I shall get a new laptop a printer a new coffee cooking machinery and possibly cloths | 20:53 |
apachelogger | most importantly though shoes | 20:53 |
shadeslayer | oh gawd | 20:53 |
shadeslayer | bug 132060 | 20:53 |
JontheEchidna | and a fez? | 20:53 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 132060 in network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu) "[feisty] network-manager-openvpn doesn't work when using x509 and private key file has password" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132060 | 20:54 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: when are there no problems with pythonz... :P | 20:54 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: trollface.jpg | 20:54 |
maco | JontheEchidna: fezes are cool | 20:54 |
JontheEchidna | ;) | 20:54 |
apachelogger | hm | 20:54 |
apachelogger | no kubotu to ask ... what is a fez | 20:54 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: I do not render jpg, sry | 20:54 |
* Quintasan guesses that is the thing muslim women put on their heads | 20:55 | |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: you did not see the finale for the latest dr who? | 20:55 |
apachelogger | I did not dare | 20:55 |
JontheEchidna | lol | 20:55 |
Quintasan | but this is a guess based on polish meaning of it :P | 20:55 |
apachelogger | it appeared to become too epic so I stopped after 5 minutes | 20:55 |
JontheEchidna | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvWYw0CnuSI | 20:55 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: trollface.svg | 20:55 |
apachelogger | oh youtubes | 20:56 |
apachelogger | youtubez even | 20:56 |
Quintasan | uTubez | 20:56 |
apachelogger | ahh | 20:56 |
apachelogger | ohh | 20:56 |
apachelogger | I agree with the doctor (as usual) | 20:56 |
Quintasan | @_@ | 20:56 |
apachelogger | I shall also shop for a fez then | 20:56 |
apachelogger | I know a nice shop like 5 other people know about that might actually have such things | 20:57 |
* Quintasan takes out laser pisotr | 20:57 | |
Quintasan | pistol* | 20:57 |
apachelogger | well then | 20:57 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: oh, before I forget: witness the latest in plasma runner technologies: http://tinyurl.com/2vsmrgk | 20:57 |
apachelogger | ah | 20:57 |
Quintasan | cookies for JontheEchidna | 20:57 |
apachelogger | yay | 20:57 |
JontheEchidna | command not found + plasma runn0r == awesome | 20:57 |
apachelogger | hooray | 20:57 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that is way superior to apturl :P | 20:58 |
apachelogger | that reminds me that I wanted to fix into runner && apturl | 20:58 |
JontheEchidna | well, just don't ask how it gets info from command-not-found :P | 20:58 |
apachelogger | well | 20:58 |
apachelogger | you | 20:58 |
apachelogger | know | 20:58 |
JontheEchidna | it works well enough but makes me cry | 20:58 |
apachelogger | dear JontheEchidna | 20:58 |
apachelogger | command-not-found is written in ze pyth0rnz | 20:59 |
apachelogger | so | 20:59 |
apachelogger | DO NOT COUNT ON IT ****NOT**** CHANGING | 20:59 |
JontheEchidna | KProcess > python | 20:59 |
apachelogger | KProcessor | 20:59 |
apachelogger | so | 20:59 |
apachelogger | enough of the chit chat | 20:59 |
apachelogger | time to do something useful | 20:59 |
JontheEchidna | the stderr output is probably more stable than the python api :P | 20:59 |
Quintasan | lol | 20:59 |
apachelogger | namely mark all of src/bzr on my netbook as to-be-syncd with u1 | 21:00 |
apachelogger | and then.... | 21:00 |
apachelogger | muhahaha | 21:00 |
* Quintasan hits apachelogger with a hammer | 21:00 | |
apachelogger | this is the by far most horrible use of cloud file syncing I am sure | 21:00 |
Quintasan | start doing thing insread of typing | 21:00 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: workspace building | 21:00 |
Quintasan | bsides, why the hell do you sync bzr on u1? | 21:00 |
shadeslayer | well...atleast patches apply ^_^ | 21:01 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: great | 21:01 |
apachelogger | how else would you do the sharezing? | 21:01 |
shadeslayer | im going to sleep in 15 mins | 21:01 |
Quintasan | lol rsync | 21:01 |
ScottK | dantti_: It looks to me like in Maverick if you check for updates and you aren't on the network, it fails silently (at least on Netbook I don't get a warning) | 21:01 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: how is that gonna work without properz authing | 21:01 |
apachelogger | and that requires sshing | 21:01 |
apachelogger | and that requires a totally different approach altogether | 21:01 |
apachelogger | + a key | 21:02 |
apachelogger | come to think of it | 21:02 |
apachelogger | where is my keyz | 21:02 |
Quintasan | rsync > * | 21:03 |
* apachelogger does not know the rsync | 21:04 | |
apachelogger | judging from i requiring special end-to-end software it is very much of the fail-by-design kind | 21:04 |
shadeslayer | lol @ bug 296538 | 21:05 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 296538 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "warty-final-ubuntu.png is actually a jpeg" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/296538 | 21:05 |
Quintasan | lol | 21:05 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: got a second? | 21:06 |
JontheEchidna | sure | 21:06 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: http://pastebin.ca/1909579 <-- this part of code is supposed to work, but it does not, how can I check what exacly is wrong? | 21:06 |
yofel | shadeslayer: that's one of the bugs everyone knows about but no one cares to fix as it doesn't really break anything currently... | 21:07 |
shadeslayer | :P | 21:07 |
Quintasan | there are some kDebug in earlier lines commented but uncommenting them gives me nothing more in output | 21:07 |
Quintasan | yofel: why the hell did they get there in first place? :O | 21:07 |
yofel | Quintasan: see explenation in comment #8 | 21:07 |
Quintasan | bsides >warty <--- isn't that old? | 21:07 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: ah, you may try checking kdebugdialog to see if kopete's kdebug output is turned on | 21:08 |
maco | Quintasan: yes | 21:08 |
yofel | Quintasan: well, at least the name is the same on all releases :P | 21:08 |
apachelogger | no please do not call people old! | 21:08 |
maco | Quintasan: instead of having a "default-wallpaper.png" symlink to the current release's wallpaper (like would be smart), they name it warty-final-ubuntu.png every release to make it auto-update your wallpaper | 21:08 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: kdebugdialog <-- is that some sort of env variable or what? | 21:09 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: an app | 21:09 |
JontheEchidna | !find kdebugdialog | 21:09 |
maco | Quintasan: trouble is, its a bit hard to correct now... | 21:09 |
ubottu | File kdebugdialog found in kde-l10n-ca, kde-l10n-da, kde-l10n-de, kde-l10n-engb, kde-l10n-es (and 91 others) | 21:09 |
JontheEchidna | !find /usr/bin/kdebugdialog | 21:09 |
ubottu | File /usr/bin/kdebugdialog found in kdebase-runtime, kdebase-runtime-dbg | 21:09 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: type it in krunner | 21:09 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: if kdebase workspace builds without mods, ill upload it | 21:10 |
shadeslayer | im off for now | 21:10 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: oh last thing | 21:10 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: are we still migrating to KDialog? | 21:10 |
shadeslayer | or is QDialog ok? ( wrt update manager ) | 21:10 |
Quintasan | maco: lol | 21:11 |
apachelogger | Oo | 21:11 |
apachelogger | roflmaogafhaasfmiw | 21:11 |
Quintasan | maco: are you serious? @_@ | 21:11 |
Quintasan | this is the funniest solution I've ever seen | 21:11 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: omfg, it is the debugging assisstant :O | 21:11 |
* Quintasan was pretty stupid to treat that as env variable | 21:11 | |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: yup, kopete is all checked | 21:11 |
maco | Quintasan: as far as i can tell, yep, thats what seems to have happened | 21:11 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: up to Riddell | 21:11 |
JontheEchidna | hrmhrm | 21:11 |
shadeslayer | kk | 21:11 |
apachelogger | IMHO the whole darn thing needs to be redone | 21:11 |
apachelogger | or removed | 21:11 |
apachelogger | no one dares upgrading anyway | 21:11 |
apachelogger | and those that do shouldnt | 21:11 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: qDebug will definitely spew things out to the konsole | 21:11 |
JontheEchidna | s/q/k | 21:12 |
apachelogger | leaves a whole lot less to rant about | 21:12 |
JontheEchidna | er | 21:12 |
JontheEchidna | s/k/q | 21:12 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: now, how to debug that particular if ? | 21:12 |
maco | Quintasan: of course, it means you lose your old wallpapers on upgrade... | 21:12 |
JontheEchidna | qDebug() << booleanVariable | 21:12 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: qdebug will only if built in debug mode!!! | 21:12 |
Quintasan | maco: that's not really smart :/ | 21:13 |
* shadeslayer is wondering why anyone does not point to gdb | 21:13 | |
shadeslayer | gdb kopete | 21:13 |
shadeslayer | and then run :D | 21:13 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: sure, I want to see the whole app spewning mem leaks at me | 21:13 |
maco | Quintasan: lack of forethought? | 21:13 |
apachelogger | so | 21:13 |
ScottK | Someone should merge skrooge. | 21:13 |
apachelogger | who is in charge of the ninjaing?! | 21:13 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: me and Quintasan | 21:14 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: I can be considered as such | 21:14 |
apachelogger | very well then | 21:14 |
apachelogger | the wiki pag0r is the craps | 21:14 |
Quintasan | cause shadeslayer was slacking off blaming the whole thing on btrfs ;) | 21:14 |
shadeslayer | haha ^ | 21:14 |
apachelogger | because it does not link to the dep graph and because it does not mention the dep graph as something to hold onto | 21:14 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: its true tho | 21:14 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: i just emptied the wiki page as is | 21:15 |
shadeslayer | it didnt link to it earlier as well | 21:15 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: http://pastebin.com/g1NxkjFv << from #ubuntu kernel | 21:15 |
yofel | shadeslayer: you *could* bind-mount /var/cache/pbuilder/build to some partition with another filesystem.. | 21:16 |
shadeslayer | now why didnt i think of that before | 21:16 |
shadeslayer | yofel: im going to reinstall anyways now | 21:17 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: tell that to shadeslayer, he modified the page :P | 21:17 |
apachelogger | also............. | 21:17 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: you should know the dependency graph by heart by now | 21:17 |
apachelogger | I think it would be super sensible to mark the cells in blue that are blue in the dep graph (i.e. parents) | 21:17 |
Quintasan | You are a ninja longer than me so how can you complain! | 21:17 |
apachelogger | that way one quickly sees what most urgently needs to be done | 21:17 |
* Quintasan delegates the task to apachelogger | 21:17 | |
apachelogger | Quintasan: I am also core-dev for quite some time and yet walk most processes by the lists in the wiki | 21:17 |
apachelogger | lists of any sort help prevent screwups | 21:17 |
apachelogger | and I am all for not screwing up | 21:17 |
ari-tczew | JontheEchidna: are you always checking bugs after upload? | 21:18 |
shadeslayer | hrmmm... lag here | 21:19 |
JontheEchidna | ari-tczew: no, but this time I forgot. sorry again :( | 21:19 |
JontheEchidna | (phonon-backend-vlc, right?) | 21:19 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: I think there was a switch to cmake to make the build a debug one, do you remeber what it was? | 21:20 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull if I am not mistaken | 21:20 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: btw apachelogger was the one who founded the ninjas | 21:21 |
ari-tczew | JontheEchidna: in future please check bugs. be in MOTU doesn't mean that you're most important person in the world. yes, phonon-backend-vlc | 21:21 |
JontheEchidna | I usually do | 21:21 |
JontheEchidna | I mean "yes, but this time I forgot" | 21:22 |
JontheEchidna | oh, wait, gah, confusing question | 21:22 |
JontheEchidna | I do usually check bugs before requesting syncs | 21:22 |
JontheEchidna | but this time I forgot | 21:22 |
JontheEchidna | please don't take it personally. | 21:23 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: if you plan to upload kdegames, do check the changelog carefully, i commited a change a few days back | 21:23 |
ari-tczew | JontheEchidna: I'm slowly getting used to such situations | 21:24 |
JontheEchidna | ? I've only done it this once :/ | 21:25 |
JontheEchidna | and it was an accident | 21:25 |
ari-tczew | JontheEchidna: not only from you | 21:25 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: It's happened to ari-tczew other times as well. | 21:26 |
JontheEchidna | Ah, well I can see how that would be frustrating. | 21:27 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK, ari-tczew: What happened here was that I saw that this needed merging yesterday, but didn't get around to it. (I was watching T.V. to be honest) Since it was only a 2-minute job I did it this morning without checking the tracker again. | 21:31 |
shadeslayer | wow ^^ | 21:32 |
JontheEchidna | Once again, I'm very sorry, and I'll try my best not to let it happen again | 21:32 |
Quintasan | hn | 21:41 |
JontheEchidna | whee: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktophp7655 | 21:41 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: I must be doing something wrong, I get no output related to notification :S | 21:42 |
JontheEchidna | now there's an explanation for the case where binary name != package name | 21:42 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: hmm | 21:42 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: what file is that in? | 21:43 |
JontheEchidna | relative to the kopete directory? | 21:43 |
Quintasan | I tried kDebug now but nothing else | 21:43 |
Quintasan | kopete/libkopete/private/kopeteviewmanager.cpp | 21:43 |
JontheEchidna | and all the kopete stuff is checked in kdebugdialog? | 21:43 |
JontheEchidna | (libkopete especially) | 21:43 |
Quintasan | yes | 21:43 |
JontheEchidna | you could try qDebug | 21:44 |
JontheEchidna | if kDebug just isn't working | 21:44 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: do I need that booleanVariable there? | 21:44 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: workspace ftbfs..going to sleep :P | 21:45 |
Quintasan | lazy shadeslayer | 21:45 |
Quintasan | :P | 21:45 |
shadeslayer | dude | 21:45 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: well, if you want to know if it is true or false | 21:45 |
shadeslayer | its 2 AM | 21:45 |
shadeslayer | and i have to wake up at 7 AM to go to college | 21:45 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: for example qDebug() << !session->account()->isAway() would show if you were not away or... not | 21:45 |
shadeslayer | :S | 21:45 |
Quintasan | lol | 21:45 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: good luck | 21:45 |
Quintasan | aaah | 21:46 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: ill finisht this tommorow | 21:46 |
JontheEchidna | and qDebug() << d->enableEventsWhileAway would show if events while away are enabled | 21:46 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: it's important where do I place that or that can be at the beginning of the loop? | 21:46 |
JontheEchidna | I'd personally place them right before the if statement that they are part of | 21:46 |
JontheEchidna | if you want, you can even do qDebug() << "some descriptive text" << boolean goes here; | 21:47 |
JontheEchidna | g2g, bbl | 21:47 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: THANKS :P | 21:47 |
Quintasan | oh, caps | 21:47 |
apachelogger | what is with the weird tarballs on ktown? | 21:48 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: svn<something>.tar.bz2? | 21:48 |
apachelogger | yeah | 21:49 |
Quintasan | beats me | 21:49 |
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Quintasan | those are 4.4.92 IIRC | 21:49 |
apachelogger | oo | 21:50 |
apachelogger | can someone poke dirk about that? | 21:50 |
apachelogger | woah | 21:50 |
Quintasan | ? | 21:50 |
apachelogger | the build-deps of kdebindings are a fucking battle field | 21:50 |
Quintasan | :O | 21:50 |
apachelogger | well then | 21:54 |
apachelogger | anyone knows where bzr-buildpackage does look for tarballs now? | 21:54 |
Quintasan | build-place? | 21:55 |
apachelogger | once it was in source, then it was ../tarballs then it was ../build-area then it was tarballs/ | 21:55 |
apachelogger | ah ../tarballs looks good | 21:55 |
apachelogger | if one names the tar correctly that is ^^ | 21:55 |
apachelogger | that deserves a script IMHO | 21:55 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: hmm, know how can I redirect WHOLE output to grep? | fails cause debug info still gets in way | 21:56 |
apachelogger | eh | 21:56 |
apachelogger | | != redirect | 21:56 |
Quintasan | it's a pipe | 21:56 |
apachelogger | | == piping | 21:56 |
apachelogger | > || < == redirecting | 21:56 |
Quintasan | oh | 21:57 |
apachelogger | that said | 21:57 |
apachelogger | foo 2>&1 file > grep | 21:57 |
apachelogger | or something like that | 21:57 |
apachelogger | no clue how to get it to pipe stderr to grep | 21:57 |
apachelogger | and no kubotu to google it :( | 21:57 |
Quintasan | command 2>&1 >&3 3>&- | grep word 3>&- | 21:58 |
Quintasan | lol | 21:58 |
Quintasan | does not work | 21:59 |
da-bayman | quick question. Im stuck at grub2 with a wubi installation. How do i know which kernel im running? | 21:59 |
apachelogger | wah? | 21:59 |
Quintasan | da-bayman: uname -a | 21:59 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: &3? | 21:59 |
apachelogger | what is 3? | 22:00 |
Quintasan | beats me | 22:01 |
Quintasan | some_command 2>&1 | another_command | 22:01 |
da-bayman | that command doesn't work within grub | 22:01 |
Quintasan | this worked | 22:01 |
apachelogger | yeah | 22:01 |
Quintasan | what the fcks | 22:01 |
Quintasan | the whole isAway() seems broken | 22:01 |
apachelogger | redirect stderr to stdout and then pipe that to grep | 22:01 |
apachelogger | libqt4-multimedia: Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu3 is installed. | 22:02 |
apachelogger | Depends: libqtgui4 (= 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu3 is installed. | 22:02 |
apachelogger | rightly then | 22:02 |
apachelogger | who broke that? | 22:02 |
* Quintasan hides | 22:03 | |
apachelogger | eh | 22:03 |
apachelogger | what the fez | 22:03 |
Quintasan | I did not mess with Qt | 22:04 |
apachelogger | root@osiris:/# apt-cache show libqt4-multimedia | grep Source | 22:04 |
apachelogger | Source: qt4-x11 | 22:04 |
apachelogger | so | 22:04 |
apachelogger | what happened there :O | 22:04 |
apachelogger | - Drop multimedia package, QtMultimediaKit in QtMobility replaces it | 22:05 |
apachelogger | aight | 22:05 |
apachelogger | E: The package 'qt-mobility' does not exist in the Ubuntu primary archive in 'maverick' | 22:06 |
apachelogger | you know | 22:06 |
apachelogger | ... | 22:06 |
apachelogger | pyth0rnz! | 22:07 |
ScottK | With the neverending line of private sources to apparently be built, nothing you upload will get built anyway. | 22:08 |
apachelogger | and after a hour of research apachelogger found out that qtmobility-dev is the package he wants to transit to | 22:10 |
apachelogger | changelogs++ | 22:10 |
ulysses | apachelogger: exam passed, now I can write the monthly report for Kubuntu Team if it is neccessary | 22:10 |
apachelogger | ulysses: it is not necessary, it is desirable ;) | 22:10 |
* apachelogger high-fives for the exam | 22:10 | |
* apachelogger thinks that this will not build with qtmultimediakit anyway -.- | 22:13 | |
apachelogger | regression++ | 22:13 |
apachelogger | yeah | 22:14 |
apachelogger | Riddell: your removal of libqt4-multimedia renders libsmokeqtmultimedia4-3 dust? | 22:15 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: session->account()->isAway(); <-- this will return true or false if the status is Away? | 22:15 |
apachelogger | yes | 22:15 |
Quintasan | >_< | 22:15 |
Quintasan | true? | 22:15 |
apachelogger | are you away? - true, I am away ... vs. ... false, I am not away :P | 22:16 |
Quintasan | so !session->account()->isAway(); will return false on Away | 22:16 |
Quintasan | who the hell made those if's | 22:16 |
Quintasan | if ( ( !session->account()->isAway() || d->enableEventsWhileAway ) | 22:17 |
Quintasan | LOL | 22:17 |
Quintasan | this is retarded | 22:17 |
apachelogger | read | 22:17 |
Quintasan | or I am | 22:17 |
apachelogger | if you are not away OR events are enabled wile away | 22:18 |
Quintasan | so that's not the if I'm looking for | 22:18 |
Quintasan | grr | 22:18 |
Quintasan | wait | 22:19 |
Quintasan | if that's not it | 22:19 |
Quintasan | then, it is not in the code at all? >_< | 22:19 |
apachelogger | what is your problem anyway? | 22:20 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: I want Kopete to DISABLE notification when I'm Away or Busy | 22:20 |
Quintasan | there is an option for that but it doesnt work | 22:20 |
Quintasan | I was wondering is it getting option right | 22:21 |
Quintasan | and it does | 22:21 |
apachelogger | doesnt enableEventsWhileAway sound like that? | 22:22 |
Quintasan | it sounds like that | 22:22 |
Quintasan | but it doesn't work | 22:22 |
apachelogger | but? | 22:22 |
Quintasan | that's the point | 22:22 |
apachelogger | well | 22:22 |
apachelogger | the condition is if you are not away or enableEventsWhileAway | 22:22 |
apachelogger | enableEventsWhileAway is probaby a bool | 22:22 |
Quintasan | it is a bool | 22:22 |
apachelogger | so | 22:22 |
ulysses | oh my god https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Teams/Reports | 22:23 |
apachelogger | if (!away || enableEventsWhileAway) | 22:23 |
apachelogger | oh | 22:23 |
apachelogger | fuck | 22:23 |
apachelogger | BAH | 22:23 |
apachelogger | DSSDGAgJGJHJ | 22:23 |
apachelogger | powerdevil-- | 22:23 |
Quintasan | wtf | 22:23 |
apachelogger | so | 22:25 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: If I ever get that to work the patch will be so ugly that devs will ban me from channel for trolling | 22:25 |
Quintasan | :P | 22:26 |
apachelogger | when there is a filetransfer going on | 22:26 |
apachelogger | there is clearly nothing happening | 22:26 |
apachelogger | so we can suspend | 22:26 |
apachelogger | right? | 22:26 |
Quintasan | LOL | 22:26 |
Quintasan | apachelogger++ | 22:26 |
Quintasan | ulysses: this page....is...a little bit empty? :P | 22:26 |
apachelogger | not to be ranting, but kopete code is ugly by kubuntu coding standards anyway ;) | 22:26 |
Quintasan | kopete needs a rewrite | 22:27 |
Quintasan | why the hell they don't do that | 22:27 |
Quintasan | great | 22:27 |
ulysses | Quintasan: a little bit | 22:28 |
apachelogger | because it is a shitload of work | 22:28 |
apachelogger | and there are too few people | 22:28 |
Quintasan | which noone wants to do | 22:28 |
Quintasan | man, I would pay few bucks to get that fcking kdelibs import fixd | 22:29 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: great, now I know the options are set right | 22:29 |
ulysses | :) | 22:29 |
* apachelogger is really wondering why he only gets 300kbs over ssh | 22:29 | |
Quintasan | so the major question is, why the fck it's not working | 22:30 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: how do you know? ^^ | 22:30 |
Quintasan | QDEBUG STUFF: Is away? true | 22:30 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: ^ | 22:30 |
Quintasan | and I'm currently Busy on Jabber | 22:31 |
apachelogger | that does not mean that enableEventsWhileAway is appropriate | 22:31 |
Quintasan | I check for that too | 22:31 |
apachelogger | and since it is a logical or condition either can be right | 22:31 |
Quintasan | and it is false | 22:31 |
Quintasan | beacuse I set it to disable them | 22:31 |
Quintasan | the option is "Enable events notifications while Away" | 22:32 |
Quintasan | unchecked should yield false | 22:32 |
Quintasan | @_@ | 22:32 |
Quintasan | HOLY SHIT | 22:32 |
apachelogger | right | 22:32 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: You're on jabber now? | 22:33 |
apachelogger | was there a time when I was not? | 22:33 |
apachelogger | or do you mean online right now? | 22:33 |
Quintasan | dunno :P | 22:33 |
Quintasan | online | 22:33 |
apachelogger | not online | 22:33 |
apachelogger | sec | 22:33 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: quintasan@jabster.pl <-- send me some messages | 22:33 |
apachelogger | now | 22:33 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: auth auth | 22:34 |
Quintasan | hahaha | 22:34 |
Quintasan | strange | 22:34 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: you see, it works | 22:35 |
Quintasan | but | 22:35 |
Quintasan | if you have no notifications | 22:35 |
Quintasan | it displays one | 22:35 |
apachelogger | eh? | 22:35 |
Quintasan | then next do not get displayed | 22:35 |
apachelogger | Oo | 22:35 |
Quintasan | send some more | 22:35 |
Quintasan | no notifications | 22:36 |
Quintasan | :O | 22:36 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: spam something now | 22:36 |
Quintasan | exacly | 22:36 |
apachelogger | well is isAway or eanbleEventsWhileAway at any time not what it is supposed to be? | 22:37 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: I have a strange feeling that bugzilla will tell you to solve this by having one notification displayed beforehand | 22:37 |
Quintasan | :P | 22:37 |
Quintasan | let me check | 22:37 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: send something | 22:37 |
Quintasan | nope | 22:38 |
Quintasan | is away == true and events == false | 22:38 |
apachelogger | what does the if do? | 22:38 |
Quintasan | and I get notification for first one | 22:38 |
Quintasan | from my lame perspective | 22:39 |
Quintasan | it sets no notifications | 22:39 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: http://pastebin.ca/1909624 | 22:40 |
Quintasan | this is the if | 22:40 |
apachelogger | OHHHHH | 22:41 |
apachelogger | OHHHHHHHHHH | 22:41 |
apachelogger | dude | 22:41 |
apachelogger | :P | 22:41 |
Quintasan | wrong if? | 22:41 |
Quintasan | :P | 22:41 |
apachelogger | if ( ( !session->account()->isAway() || d->enableEventsWhileAway ) | 22:41 |
apachelogger | && msg.direction() != Kopete::Message::Internal ) | 22:41 |
apachelogger | thats is the whole if | 22:41 |
apachelogger | it is two lined | 22:41 |
Quintasan | yes it is | 22:41 |
apachelogger | you did not say that :P | 22:41 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: http://imagebin.ca/view/T1r-4O.html | 22:42 |
Quintasan | like this | 22:42 |
apachelogger | OTOH | 22:42 |
Quintasan | means it's baaad | 22:42 |
Quintasan | ? | 22:42 |
Quintasan | OTOH? | 22:42 |
apachelogger | well, both conditions would need to be true, since !away || events is never true though the whole condition is never true | 22:43 |
apachelogger | unless I am suffering from almost-midnight-syndrom | 22:43 |
Quintasan | how do you explain next messages not throwing notifications? | 22:44 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: add another debug inside the if | 22:45 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: the inner or outer? :P | 22:46 |
Quintasan | oh | 22:46 |
Quintasan | god damn | 22:46 |
apachelogger | the one that is throwing the notification :P | 22:46 |
apachelogger | hm... | 22:47 |
apachelogger | if ( appendMessageEvent || showNotification ) | 22:47 |
apachelogger | actually that if would be responsible for notification | 22:48 |
apachelogger | so maybe also add debugs to those looking into those two variables | 22:48 |
apachelogger | appendMessageEvent could be true if you have message queing on if I understand this correctly | 22:48 |
Quintasan | let me check for status of that | 22:49 |
Quintasan | it is enabled in here | 22:50 |
apachelogger | appendMessageEvent? | 22:50 |
apachelogger | always? | 22:50 |
Quintasan | oh, I did not add that | 22:50 |
Quintasan | let me check that first if thought | 22:50 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: spam some now | 22:51 |
Quintasan | great. the first one gets notification and then no spam | 22:52 |
Quintasan | and no QDebug stuff | 22:52 |
apachelogger | can you please throw me the output? | 22:52 |
Quintasan | the whole crap? | 22:52 |
apachelogger | well all the releveat stuff ;) | 22:53 |
Quintasan | after inserting that qDebug into the f ( ( !session->account()->isAway() || d->enableEventsWhileAway ) I get nothing | 22:53 |
apachelogger | eh | 22:54 |
apachelogger | well | 22:54 |
apachelogger | sec | 22:54 |
Quintasan | grr | 22:55 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: http://pastebin.ca/1909637 | 22:56 |
apachelogger | try that | 22:56 |
apachelogger | meh | 22:57 |
apachelogger | bindings is only at 40 % -.- | 22:57 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: get a faster computer | 22:59 |
Quintasan | :P | 22:59 |
apachelogger | I am :P | 22:59 |
Quintasan | what is ur machine now? | 22:59 |
ulysses | Quintasan: from you?:P | 22:59 |
Quintasan | ulysses: from lex at least | 23:00 |
Quintasan | lex is the fastest kde builder | 23:00 |
* ulysses have an Intel T3000 | 23:00 | |
apachelogger | well | 23:00 |
Quintasan | damn u apachelogger, I forgot to prefix all QDEBUG messages | 23:01 |
apachelogger | prefix? | 23:01 |
Quintasan | yes | 23:01 |
apachelogger | whatfor? | 23:01 |
Quintasan | to filter them with grep | 23:01 |
apachelogger | dude | 23:01 |
apachelogger | ditch me the log and I will filter your arse :P | 23:01 |
Quintasan | I get tons of raw xmpp beforehand | 23:01 |
* apachelogger is wondering where his second cat5 got lost to | 23:02 | |
Quintasan | cat5? | 23:03 |
apachelogger | netwerx | 23:03 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: so where is the log? | 23:03 |
Quintasan | building | 23:03 |
apachelogger | man | 23:04 |
Quintasan | THE CODE MUST BE PURIFIED | 23:04 |
apachelogger | get a faster computer | 23:04 |
Quintasan | intel core i5 @ 4GIGAHUNTZ with 4 gb ramz | 23:04 |
Quintasan | problem? | 23:04 |
apachelogger | i7 is supreme | 23:04 |
Quintasan | You have i7? | 23:05 |
apachelogger | I will by the end of the week | 23:05 |
ulysses | Intel Dual-Core T3000 @ 1,8 GHz with 2 GB DDR3 :( | 23:05 |
apachelogger | possibly twice | 23:05 |
apachelogger | once in a desktop | 23:05 |
apachelogger | and once in a mobile | 23:05 |
Quintasan | so don't act so mighty now! | 23:05 |
apachelogger | so that we shall icecream | 23:05 |
Quintasan | repair the hook first | 23:05 |
apachelogger | because really, icecreaming IMHO is much more efficient than one fast cpu | 23:05 |
Quintasan | fff | 23:07 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: spam now | 23:07 |
Quintasan | great | 23:07 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/log.bz2 | 23:09 |
Quintasan | enjoy ur OVER 9000 lines of raw xmpp log | 23:09 |
apachelogger | crybaby | 23:09 |
Quintasan | qDebug() << "QDEBUG: monster if is true..."; | 23:10 |
Quintasan | doesn't show up | 23:10 |
Quintasan | is this good? | 23:10 |
apachelogger | corse not | 23:11 |
apachelogger | because I am supreme | 23:11 |
apachelogger | QDEBUG: appendMessageEvent: true | 23:11 |
apachelogger | QDEBUG: showNotification: false | 23:11 |
apachelogger | QDEBUG: showNotification is now true!! | 23:11 |
apachelogger | as suspected | 23:11 |
apachelogger | I bet with you if you turn of queuing you will get no notification :P | 23:11 |
Quintasan | spam plox | 23:11 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: ^ | 23:12 |
Quintasan | hmm | 23:12 |
apachelogger | if ( appendMessageEvent || showNotification ) | 23:12 |
apachelogger | I think that should be && | 23:12 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: spam nao | 23:12 |
apachelogger | you are offz | 23:12 |
Quintasan | haha | 23:12 |
Quintasan | see | 23:12 |
Quintasan | you can't disable it :O | 23:12 |
apachelogger | why not? | 23:13 |
Quintasan | there is Open message instantly | 23:13 |
Quintasan | Use message queuing | 23:13 |
apachelogger | turn that off too :P | 23:13 |
apachelogger | oh | 23:13 |
Quintasan | and a check box Queue unread messages | 23:13 |
apachelogger | well | 23:14 |
apachelogger | if ( appendMessageEvent || showNotification ) | 23:14 |
apachelogger | is the problem | 23:14 |
Quintasan | should be &&? | 23:14 |
apachelogger | in particular that appendMessageEvent is always true becuase either you queue or show instantly and with show instantly you would override the notification anyway | 23:14 |
Quintasan | as I expected that | 23:14 |
apachelogger | so I think this should be &&, because there is a parenting if that checks for inbound messages only | 23:14 |
Quintasan | but KDE magic is magical | 23:14 |
apachelogger | and if showNotification is false for such a beasty then appendmessageevent should be disregarded eitherway | 23:15 |
Quintasan | grr | 23:15 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: if the kopete devs do not approach that change then they may reason why that || makes sense :P | 23:15 |
apachelogger | because I do not see none | 23:16 |
apachelogger | also | 23:16 |
apachelogger | if ( msg.from() && d->eventList.isEmpty() ) | 23:16 |
apachelogger | needs to be changed | 23:16 |
apachelogger | to set shownotification to false | 23:16 |
apachelogger | the general flow is ... check if notification should be displayed at all (first if) | 23:16 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: are you spamming me now? | 23:17 |
apachelogger | if that is true and we use a message queue it should check if the queue is empty and if it is not not show the message | 23:17 |
apachelogger | so you need to invert the logic in that first if inside the failure if | 23:17 |
apachelogger | otherwise you create a new bug | 23:17 |
Quintasan | okay, now the notification is not showing AND kopete icon is not spinning | 23:18 |
Quintasan | as I have received no messages | 23:18 |
apachelogger | hm | 23:18 |
apachelogger | right | 23:18 |
apachelogger | now it makes sense ^^ | 23:18 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: if ( msg.from() && d->eventList.isEmpty() ) | 23:19 |
apachelogger | invert that one instead | 23:19 |
apachelogger | that way shownotification can only become false other than in the if that checks for awayness | 23:19 |
* apachelogger hopes that was understandable ^^ | 23:20 | |
Quintasan | so if ( appendMessageEvent && showNotification ) == if ( appendMessageEvent || showNotification ) | 23:21 |
Quintasan | and I should make if ( msg.from() && d->eventList.isEmpty() ) set showNotification to false? | 23:21 |
apachelogger | almost | 23:22 |
apachelogger | the latter should be inverted completely | 23:22 |
apachelogger | just making it set showNotification to false would be, well, wrong | 23:22 |
apachelogger | you need to invert the condition itself | 23:23 |
Quintasan | urgh De Morgans law's was it? | 23:23 |
apachelogger | AND then set showNotification to false | 23:23 |
JontheEchidna | how goes it? | 23:23 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: if ( !msg.from() || !d->eventList.isEmpty() ) ? | 23:23 |
* Quintasan did that based on maths logic | 23:24 | |
apachelogger | works, but another option is closer at hand ;) | 23:25 |
Quintasan | so maths logic applies to c magic \o/ | 23:25 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: I would go with !(foo && bar) for readablity | 23:26 |
Quintasan | oh well | 23:26 |
apachelogger | also it makes your diff more understandable since it becomes obvious that you invert the logic ;) | 23:26 |
Quintasan | and with maths logic laws it would expand to what I did back there | 23:26 |
apachelogger | yeah, they are equivalent, but that does not mean that from a code style POV they are :P | 23:27 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: Quintasan is fixing the kopete | 23:28 |
Quintasan | what the hell | 23:28 |
apachelogger | hm | 23:28 |
apachelogger | dpkg-deb: building package `python-kde4-doc' in `../python-kde4-doc_4.4.95-0ubuntu1_all.deb'. | 23:28 |
apachelogger | dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2 | 23:28 |
apachelogger | E: Failed autobuilding of package | 23:28 |
apachelogger | that is the odd | 23:28 |
ScottK | Riddell: The trick that no one mentioned at UDS for Kolab server stuff is it also needs PHP patching. PHP is in Main and server team gets annoyed if I break it. | 23:28 |
Quintasan | PYTHON :d | 23:29 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: :D | 23:29 |
* apachelogger runs in verbose | 23:29 | |
apachelogger | ahhh | 23:30 |
apachelogger | dh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/usr/include/smoke/qtmultimedia_smoke.h debian/libsmokeqt4-dev//usr/include/smoke/ returned exit code 1 | 23:30 |
apachelogger | makes more sense | 23:30 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: spam! | 23:30 |
Quintasan | haha | 23:30 |
Quintasan | show notifications | 23:30 |
Quintasan | :P | 23:30 |
Quintasan | wait | 23:31 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: http://pastebin.ca/1909664 | 23:31 |
Quintasan | That's what I did | 23:31 |
Quintasan | and it shows all notifications now | 23:31 |
apachelogger | oh is it not working? | 23:31 |
Quintasan | :P | 23:31 |
apachelogger | all notification? | 23:32 |
apachelogger | ah yeah | 23:32 |
apachelogger | see | 23:32 |
apachelogger | you did not listen | 23:32 |
Quintasan | false | 23:32 |
Quintasan | damn | 23:32 |
apachelogger | right | 23:32 |
ulysses | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports | 23:32 |
ulysses | As in the HowTo was written | 23:33 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: do want some delicious b's | 23:33 |
Quintasan | YEAH | 23:33 |
Quintasan | cookies for apachelogger | 23:33 |
Quintasan | try now | 23:33 |
Quintasan | yes! | 23:33 |
Quintasan | this is alive | 23:33 |
Quintasan | more cookies for apachelogger | 23:34 |
apachelogger | I would add a comment though, to ensure that people only change the var to false from that if(!away... onwards | 23:34 |
apachelogger | otherwise this might break again in the future | 23:35 |
Quintasan | let me clean up this mess fist | 23:35 |
apachelogger | I am sure JontheEchidna can sponsor ^^ | 23:35 |
apachelogger | he is a great KDE SVN sponsor ^^ | 23:35 |
CIA-98 | [plasma-runner-installer] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100727223613-cm0my0re3nlq771y * installerrunner.cpp Quotation marks around the package name | 23:36 |
JontheEchidna | ^^ | 23:36 |
Riddell | apachelogger: yes libsmokeqtmultimedia4-3 is dust | 23:36 |
apachelogger | Riddell: poor thing :) | 23:36 |
apachelogger | well I think that was the only thing that stood in the way of bindings building | 23:37 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: btw, my tip with installing kdelibs5-dev in the cow is speeding up things a lot | 23:37 |
Riddell | apachelogger: if you did a screenshot of that kcm in English and with normal theme colours it would be more intelligable | 23:37 |
apachelogger | ^^ | 23:38 |
apachelogger | Riddell: it is only about the sidebar thing | 23:38 |
apachelogger | (which is in english :P) | 23:38 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: I didn't to that with --save-after-login, let me try :P | 23:38 |
apachelogger | Riddell: the folder parts would have folderlists to edit and some description above, and the general section information like username and autostart and throttling and stuff | 23:39 |
CIA-98 | [plasma-runner-installer] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100727223858-vgd8wr4s29tw0do2 * installerrunner.cpp Include cleanups, plus less kDebug() | 23:39 |
ulysses | After adding the header: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports | 23:40 |
apachelogger | ulysses: looking good, now it just needs some advertising :) | 23:42 |
apachelogger | like the kubuntu-devel and kubuntu-users lists | 23:42 |
apachelogger | although | 23:42 |
Riddell | apachelogger: putting it with the other shares modules does seem sensible | 23:42 |
apachelogger | maybe someone wants to add something still | 23:42 |
Quintasan | I want! | 23:43 |
apachelogger | Riddell: yeah, I was intending tabs first, but that is really horrible, also not having tabs leaves more freedom with how to design the general settings "page" | 23:43 |
apachelogger | also with the web page we can make up for settings that are yet missing ^^ | 23:44 |
apachelogger | Quintasan: please go ahead | 23:44 |
apachelogger | everyone else please also take a quick look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports and add/enhance if you wish :) | 23:44 |
Quintasan | there you go | 23:47 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: be sure to refresh the page | 23:47 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/kopete_notifications.patch <-- <3 | 23:49 |
ScottK | Where's the switch to turn m-i on/off in kmail? | 23:49 |
Riddell | Quintasan: what's that for? | 23:50 |
Quintasan | Riddell: kde bug Bug 184113 | 23:50 |
ubottu | Bug 184113 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/184113 is private | 23:50 |
Quintasan | grr | 23:50 |
Quintasan | kde bug 184113 | 23:50 |
ubottu | KDE bug 184113 in Notifications "No apparent way to disable events while status is Busy" [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=184113 | 23:50 |
Riddell | ScottK: not honestly sure | 23:52 |
ScottK | agateau told me where to turn it on, but now I don't remember .... | 23:53 |
ulysses | time to sleep in UTC+2 (CEST), good night! | 23:56 |
Quintasan | ulysses: night | 23:56 |
Riddell | sweet dreams | 23:57 |
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