[02:48] <DanaG> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/giant-meerkat-created-out-of-straw.html
[05:57] <litropy> hi, peeps - last resort here. Anyone know a good microcontroller circ chan?
[05:58] <litropy> irc*
[06:38] <symbiotic> is there a way to do a full install onto a usb external hard drive from windows?
[06:41] <DanaG> symbiotic: is impatient.
[10:05] <om26er> does grub in maverick support btrfs?
[10:07] <Jordan_U> om26er: No, there are patches available but their being held up by legal issues (which is what has been holding up btrfs support in grub2 for almost a year).
[10:09] <Jordan_U> om26er: You can still use a btrfs / with an extn /boot though.
[10:09] <om26er> using already.. was about to reinstall maverick so thought this time /boot on btrfs
[10:37] <vish> om26er: living on the edge, eh? ;)
[10:39] <om26er> vish, hehe yep ;)
[10:41] <om26er> the fact: btrfs performace is way faster than ext4 on my netbook but no difference on the PC
[10:42] <om26er> anyone: I didnot find any bug for nautilus being slow.. is it a bug in nautilus or somewhere else?
[10:42] <vish> om26er: was nautilus ever fast?
[10:43] <om26er> vish, its worse in Maverick
[10:47] <om26er> I think its a gtk bug
[11:07] <BUGabundo_remote> mew
[11:08] <BUGabundo_remote> gtk bug continues
[11:08] <BUGabundo_remote> and its getting work
[11:08] <BUGabundo_remote> but did a nice find
[11:08] <BUGabundo_remote> the controls locations is now attached to the theme
[11:08] <BUGabundo_remote> so some have it on the left, and some on the right
[11:10] <BUGabundo_remote> om26er: its filed somewhere
[11:10] <BUGabundo_remote> I'm subbed to it
[11:10] <om26er> BUGabundo_remote, gtk?
[11:10] <om26er> is it reported for gtk?
[11:11] <om26er> try recalling the title ;)
[11:30] <BUGabundo_remote> om26er: actually its assing to design team
[11:30] <BUGabundo_remote> humm
[11:31] <BUGabundo_remote> let me grep my email
[11:46] <Crashbit> What is the bug of gtk and RGBA
[11:46] <Crashbit> ?
[11:46] <Crashbit> I can not find
[13:17] <pkramerruiz> Hi everyone!
[13:17] <pkramerruiz> Can anyone tell me if the developers of "software-sources" have an channel-sources?
[13:17] <pkramerruiz> Cause I want to run the process for selecting the best Mirror server, every time before making an update to some program, for obtain more speed downloading
[13:18] <shadeslayer> pkramerruiz: i would hazard a guess at #ubuntu-devel
[13:18] <shadeslayer> or maybe the synaptic dev channel
[13:18] <pkramerruiz> okay Thanx
[13:19] <shadeslayer> but i dont know where that is ;)
[13:19] <pkramerruiz> ohh, there is an synaptic devel channel?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> pkramerruiz: idk :)
[13:19] <shadeslayer> google it
[13:19] <pkramerruiz> lol
[13:19] <shadeslayer> pkramerruiz: thats what i would have done :P
[13:19] <shadeslayer> google has all the answers ^_^
[13:19] <pkramerruiz> this kind of answers too?
[13:20] <shadeslayer> yep
[13:20] <shadeslayer> google something like " Synaptic Package Manager "
[13:20] <shadeslayer> and it should bring you to their site.. their contact info would be listed there
[13:20] <pkramerruiz> ok
[13:20] <pkramerruiz> any other tip?
[13:21] <shadeslayer> pkramerruiz: see : http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/contribute.html
[13:21] <shadeslayer> first link on google
[13:21] <shadeslayer> that would be it :P
[13:22] <pkramerruiz> Thanx
[13:22] <shadeslayer> pkramerruiz: ah theres #synaptic
[13:23] <pkramerruiz> Okay, I will post my question there
[13:23] <shadeslayer> i do heavily doubt someone will answer... but still worth a shot
[13:24] <BUGabundo_remote> pkramerruiz: ping mvo
[13:24] <mvo> pkramerruiz: you can use the "mirror" method in apt, try:
[13:24] <mvo> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt maverick main restricted universe
[13:25] <pkramerruiz> sudo ping deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt maverick main restricted universe??
[13:25] <shadeslayer> hehe :P
[13:26] <shadeslayer> pkramerruiz: no need for sudo
[13:26] <pkramerruiz> okay
[13:26] <shadeslayer> and lose the deb and stuff after maverick
[13:26] <om26er> so client side window decoration is again postponed?
[13:26] <pkramerruiz> and then?
[13:26] <shadeslayer> ohhhh
[13:26] <shadeslayer> wait... mvo whats that?
[13:26] <shadeslayer> .txt?
[13:26] <pkramerruiz> patrick@patrick-laptop:~$ ping deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt maverick main restricted universe
[13:26] <pkramerruiz> ping: unknown host deb
[13:26] <pkramerruiz> patrick@patrick-laptop:~$
[13:26] <shadeslayer> i have never seen that magic before
[13:27] <shadeslayer> pkramerruiz: hold on
[13:27] <shadeslayer> oho
[13:27] <shadeslayer> mvo: that is awesome
[13:27] <mvo> shadeslayer: its a new thing that can be put into sources.list
[13:27] <pkramerruiz> for sure
[13:28] <mvo> shadeslayer: the server will send you a list of mirrors on each apt-get update
[13:28] <mvo> pkramerruiz: no need for sudo or ping, it just needs to go into sources.list as the top lines
[13:28] <pkramerruiz> you mean I should put deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt maverick main restricted universe in the sources.list?
[13:28] <pkramerruiz> okay, but what if Im using karmic?
[13:29] <om26er> BUGabundo_remote, did you find the bug report :0
[13:29] <pkramerruiz> mvo: this list of mirrors, for what is this prupossed?
[13:29] <shadeslayer> mvo: ok, so i put that on the top of my sources.list ?
[13:30] <shadeslayer> and remove the rest of the lines i dont need?
[13:30] <mvo> pkramerruiz: I'm not sure if it will work in karmic, but you can give it a try. obviously replace maverick with karmic :)
[13:30] <mvo> shadeslayer: just putting it on top should be enough
[13:30] <pkramerruiz> yeah yeah, but should I delete the rest of karmic's main servers?
[13:31] <mvo> shadeslayer: you can remove the other ones, but by default apt (and synaptic and update-manager and friends) will use the first one, so the mirror stuff
[13:31] <shadeslayer> seems slooow :(
[13:31] <BUGabundo_remote> om26er: I can barelly use my laptop
[13:31] <mvo> pkramerruiz: you can, but you don't need to
[13:31] <BUGabundo_remote> itssss ooo slow
[13:31] <shadeslayer> im getting 7 KBps
[13:31] <BUGabundo_remote> so slow, I don't dare opening kmail
[13:31] <mvo> shadeslayer: oh :/ so its not making a good decision on the server? thats bad
[13:31] <mvo> shadeslayer: cat /var/lib/apt/mirrors/mirrors.ubuntu.com_mirrors.txt
[13:31] <shadeslayer> mvo: i would hazard a guess at that.. yes
[13:31] <mvo> shadeslayer: that will tell you which it got
[13:31] <shadeslayer> http://ftp.iitm.ac.in/ubuntu/
[13:32] <shadeslayer> which i think is the slowest of the lot
[13:32] <mvo> :/
[13:32] <shadeslayer> http://ubuntuarchive.hnsdc.com/ubuntu/ << is the second one, which is fastest
[13:32] <pkramerruiz> I do not understand what is the purpose of this file?!
[13:33] <shadeslayer> pkramerruiz: ok so it figures out which mirror is fastest for you and uses that
[13:33] <shadeslayer> exactly what you wanted
[13:33] <pkramerruiz> sure?
[13:33] <shadeslayer> but it seems to be borked here :p
[13:33] <shadeslayer> on maverick i.e
[13:35] <pkramerruiz> no other command to execute the process of finding the fastest mirror server? I distrust this method with the txt
[13:35] <shadeslayer> not that i know of, except using the synaptic method
[13:36] <shadeslayer> maybe mvo has dark magic under his sleeve
[13:36] <pkramerruiz> :-D
[13:36] <pkramerruiz> maybe
[13:37] <shadeslayer> mvo: i guess the .txt stuff is WIP ?
[13:37] <mvo> shadeslayer: yeah, its not prefect yet
[13:37] <mvo> shadeslayer: but feedback is welcome
[13:38] <shadeslayer> well.. it chooses wrong mirror :P
[13:38] <shadeslayer> thats all i care about eventually :D
[13:42] <shadeslayer> mvo: how do establish which mirror is fastest ? you ping each country mirror?
[13:42] <shadeslayer> lp++ for giving me 300 KBps of bandwidth
[13:44] <shadeslayer> mvo: btw heard of deb deltas?
[13:45] <mvo> shadeslayer: I'm not that familiar with the server side, but basicly I think that the way it works
[13:45] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:47] <shadeslayer> aha
[13:47] <shadeslayer> mvo: ok when i ping ftp mirror it does not reply
[14:00] <paultag> Hey hackers. Anyone know why xplash is not in Debian?
[14:02] <paultag> You'd think it it got into an Ubuntu release someone would file an ITP and upload
[14:02] <shadeslayer> paultag: maybe debian doesnt want it? :P
[14:03] <paultag> shadeslayer: hehe, what else is new
[14:03] <chrisccoulson> does anybody want it?
[14:03] <paultag> o/
[14:03] <shadeslayer> ^ not me :P
[14:03] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:03] <paultag> plymoth causes a race condition in my kernel fb buffers
[14:03] <paultag> and fails to post past the initrd
[14:03] <shadeslayer> xsplash+kubuntu == death
[14:03] <paultag> so I'm trying to get a splash screen working on squeeze
[14:04] <paultag> so, I'm off to pbuild this dsc for 9.10 against squeeze
[14:09] <Bleeding_Edge> Hello.  I have been having periodic system hang issues on my maverick machine.  I somehow think that it is related to my bluetooth keyboard and mouse but not sure.  Can someone help me diagnose
[14:13] <om26er> !netconsole
[14:15] <Bleeding_Edge> I can't boot with any kernel newer than 2.6.34-5.  All of the newer kernels fail to start X and just go into a non-responsive state.  Could someone please help diagnose?  Thanks.
[14:16] <om26er> Bleeding_Edge, tried live cd?
[14:18] <Bleeding_Edge> No.  I have it installed and everytime a new kernel update comes up, I put it in and try.  Haven't been successful yet.
[15:01] <Bleeding_Edge> I have been having periodic system hanging issues on my maverick machine. I think that it is related to my bluetooth keyboard and mouse but not sure. Can someone help me diagnose? Thanks
[15:07] <om26er> Bleeding_Edge, follow this procedure and get the logs before the hang... and attach it to a bug report:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Netconsole?action=show&redirect=KernelTeam/Netconsole
[15:10] <Bleeding_Edge> Trouble with the hang is that it is completely unpredictable.  I sometimes have uptimes in the order of days and other times in the order of minutes.  I can follow this procedure to submit the bug.  Any comments on the newer kernels not initializing X and dying?
[17:48] <wzssyqa> I am using 10.10, btrfs as root and btrfs as home ,when upgrade, it costs so much time to unpack deb packages. Is there something wrong ?
[17:54] <wzssyqa> I installed it with dvd of 7.20
[20:18] <mxe5> Hi - Where's the best place to information on the next Ubuntu release ? Is it Maverick ?
[20:20] <charlie-tca> mxe5: yes, it is maverick
[20:21] <Pici> mxe5: and here would be that place.
[20:26] <mxe5> Ah found this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule and - Could someone suggest a site that would list major new bits n pieces it will have over the 10.04 release ?
[20:27] <mxe5> Better hardware support I assume etc. etc. ?
[20:28] <charlie-tca> there is this, that updates with each milestone - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview
[20:28] <charlie-tca> There are also blueprints in launchpad, blogs, etc scattered all over
[20:29] <Pici> The blueprints would probably be the best place to look for stuff.
[20:30] <charlie-tca> But... there is no one place to look at all the changes coming without digging a little bit
[20:30] <mxe5> charlie-tca: That's good starting point - Thanks
[20:31] <mxe5> If I was I trying out the Alpha and have questions - This would be a good channel ?
[20:32] <charlie-tca> This is the correct channel for maverick questions, yes
[20:32] <Pici> !topic
[20:32] <mxe5> Someone in the regular support Ubuntu channel said the ubuntu+1 channel is for next release questions correct?
[20:33] <mxe5> ok cool Thanks
[20:33] <Pici> mxe5: Thats this channel, yes.
[20:33] <mxe5> Pici: THanks
[20:36] <mxe5> I have been waffling back an forth on what name or id want to keep for using the IRC - Is it best to register a name or does it matter that much ?
[20:37] <charlie-tca> Registering the name allows you to have that name everytime you use IRC. Not registering means you may not get the same name each time
[20:39] <charlie-tca> more information - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#Registration
[20:43] <mxe5> charlie-tca: Ok - so I guess one advantage would be that the more you use IRC or occasionally answer questions that you might know - you would become more recognizable - True statement ?
[20:43] <charlie-tca> true
[20:45] <mxe5> I do see some id's allot of the time in the regular ubuntu support IRC and value what suggestions, help, or advice they might offer.
[20:46] <mxe5> charlie-tca: thanks - that clears up what I needed to know - Will be back when have time to give the new 10.10 a spin ....
[20:46] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[21:11] <duffydack> is it btrfs thats slow or just the fact im using an alpha os....
[21:12] <duffydack> I have not tried it with ext4 yet, I thought I`d jump right in and use bt, but its quite slow at disk stuff, like now I`m just installing some apps and its taking a lot longer than I`m used to for its configuring, setting up etc.  The install itself took an AGE as well..
[21:22] <yofel> duffydack: from what I hear btrfs seems to be quite slow, especially with dpkg
[21:48] <DanaG> crimsun_: you around?  I'm having trouble with pulseaudio.
[21:49] <DanaG> module-remap-sink.c: Failed to parse module arguments. ... argument: "sink_name=front master=sound_card channels=2 master_channel_map=front-left,front-right channel_map=front-left, front-right"
[21:53] <DanaG> oh, I see... I had a space somewhere.
[22:39] <BUGabundo> maybe I'm getting sick
[22:39] <BUGabundo> or the heat damaged my lcd
[22:39] <BUGabundo> but I sure heck see an overlay over pidgin chat bar !!!
[22:39] <BUGabundo> its using 50% of it
[22:39] <BUGabundo> very very strange
[22:40] <BUGabundo> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112892/pidgin.png
[22:44] <kklimonda> you sick bastard!
[22:44] <kklimonda> ;)
[22:45] <BUGabundo> ??
[22:45] <BUGabundo> do you see it in the screenshot?
[22:45] <kklimonda> I have no idea what to look for
[22:46] <kklimonda> what is a chat bar?
[22:46] <kklimonda> you mean the list of channels?
[22:46] <kklimonda> then I see it..
[22:47] <BUGabundo> yes
[22:47] <BUGabundo> it showed up NOW
[22:47] <BUGabundo> on a fresh boot
[22:47] <BUGabundo> I did change the them earlier
[22:47] <BUGabundo> could that have caused it ?
[22:49] <kklimonda> no idea, it looks like it were supposed to be a gradient..
[23:00] <BUGabundo> yep
[23:00] <BUGabundo> its gone in Ambience
[23:04] <BUGabundo> bahhh
[23:05] <BUGabundo> ambience puts the icons in the left
[23:05] <BUGabundo> going with dust
[23:06] <BUGabundo> Total time: 17.17
[23:06] <BUGabundo> no im not
[23:06] <BUGabundo>  :(
[23:06] <BUGabundo> human Total time:  8.00
[23:06] <BUGabundo> mew
[23:06] <BUGabundo> need it to be faster
[23:06] <BUGabundo> and human does show the bar too
[23:07]  * Daekdroom uses a ambiance theme variety that does 16 seconds
[23:08] <BUGabundo> dakr room Total time:  7.70
[23:08] <BUGabundo> I had 6.7 yesterday on my old them