=== DanaG1 is now known as DanaG === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG === mdeslaur is now known as mdeslaur-afk [02:48] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/giant-meerkat-created-out-of-straw.html === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG === foxbuntu is now known as 14WAAZ29V === jussi is now known as Guest88035 [05:57] hi, peeps - last resort here. Anyone know a good microcontroller circ chan? [05:58] irc* [06:38] is there a way to do a full install onto a usb external hard drive from windows? [06:41] symbiotic: is impatient. === tmzt_ is now known as tmzt === David-T_ is now known as David-T === Tm_K is now known as Tm_T [10:05] does grub in maverick support btrfs? [10:07] om26er: No, there are patches available but their being held up by legal issues (which is what has been holding up btrfs support in grub2 for almost a year). [10:09] om26er: You can still use a btrfs / with an extn /boot though. [10:09] using already.. was about to reinstall maverick so thought this time /boot on btrfs [10:37] om26er: living on the edge, eh? ;) [10:39] vish, hehe yep ;) [10:41] the fact: btrfs performace is way faster than ext4 on my netbook but no difference on the PC [10:42] anyone: I didnot find any bug for nautilus being slow.. is it a bug in nautilus or somewhere else? [10:42] om26er: was nautilus ever fast? [10:43] vish, its worse in Maverick [10:47] I think its a gtk bug [11:07] mew [11:08] gtk bug continues [11:08] and its getting work [11:08] but did a nice find [11:08] the controls locations is now attached to the theme [11:08] so some have it on the left, and some on the right [11:10] om26er: its filed somewhere [11:10] I'm subbed to it [11:10] BUGabundo_remote, gtk? [11:10] is it reported for gtk? [11:11] try recalling the title ;) [11:30] om26er: actually its assing to design team [11:30] humm [11:31] let me grep my email [11:46] What is the bug of gtk and RGBA [11:46] ? [11:46] I can not find [13:17] Hi everyone! [13:17] Can anyone tell me if the developers of "software-sources" have an channel-sources? [13:17] Cause I want to run the process for selecting the best Mirror server, every time before making an update to some program, for obtain more speed downloading [13:18] pkramerruiz: i would hazard a guess at #ubuntu-devel [13:18] or maybe the synaptic dev channel [13:18] okay Thanx [13:19] but i dont know where that is ;) [13:19] ohh, there is an synaptic devel channel? [13:19] pkramerruiz: idk :) [13:19] google it [13:19] lol [13:19] pkramerruiz: thats what i would have done :P [13:19] google has all the answers ^_^ [13:19] this kind of answers too? [13:20] yep [13:20] google something like " Synaptic Package Manager " [13:20] and it should bring you to their site.. their contact info would be listed there [13:20] ok [13:20] any other tip? [13:21] pkramerruiz: see : http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/contribute.html [13:21] first link on google [13:21] that would be it :P [13:22] Thanx [13:22] pkramerruiz: ah theres #synaptic [13:23] Okay, I will post my question there [13:23] i do heavily doubt someone will answer... but still worth a shot === om26er_ is now known as om26er [13:24] pkramerruiz: ping mvo [13:24] pkramerruiz: you can use the "mirror" method in apt, try: [13:24] deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt maverick main restricted universe [13:25] sudo ping deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt maverick main restricted universe?? [13:25] hehe :P [13:26] pkramerruiz: no need for sudo [13:26] okay [13:26] and lose the deb and stuff after maverick [13:26] so client side window decoration is again postponed? [13:26] and then? [13:26] ohhhh [13:26] wait... mvo whats that? [13:26] .txt? [13:26] patrick@patrick-laptop:~$ ping deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt maverick main restricted universe [13:26] ping: unknown host deb [13:26] patrick@patrick-laptop:~$ [13:26] i have never seen that magic before [13:27] pkramerruiz: hold on [13:27] oho [13:27] mvo: that is awesome [13:27] shadeslayer: its a new thing that can be put into sources.list [13:27] for sure [13:28] shadeslayer: the server will send you a list of mirrors on each apt-get update [13:28] pkramerruiz: no need for sudo or ping, it just needs to go into sources.list as the top lines [13:28] you mean I should put deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt maverick main restricted universe in the sources.list? [13:28] okay, but what if Im using karmic? [13:29] BUGabundo_remote, did you find the bug report :0 [13:29] mvo: this list of mirrors, for what is this prupossed? [13:29] mvo: ok, so i put that on the top of my sources.list ? [13:30] and remove the rest of the lines i dont need? [13:30] pkramerruiz: I'm not sure if it will work in karmic, but you can give it a try. obviously replace maverick with karmic :) [13:30] shadeslayer: just putting it on top should be enough [13:30] yeah yeah, but should I delete the rest of karmic's main servers? [13:31] shadeslayer: you can remove the other ones, but by default apt (and synaptic and update-manager and friends) will use the first one, so the mirror stuff [13:31] seems slooow :( [13:31] om26er: I can barelly use my laptop [13:31] pkramerruiz: you can, but you don't need to [13:31] itssss ooo slow [13:31] im getting 7 KBps [13:31] so slow, I don't dare opening kmail [13:31] shadeslayer: oh :/ so its not making a good decision on the server? thats bad [13:31] shadeslayer: cat /var/lib/apt/mirrors/mirrors.ubuntu.com_mirrors.txt [13:31] mvo: i would hazard a guess at that.. yes [13:31] shadeslayer: that will tell you which it got [13:31] http://ftp.iitm.ac.in/ubuntu/ [13:32] which i think is the slowest of the lot [13:32] :/ [13:32] http://ubuntuarchive.hnsdc.com/ubuntu/ << is the second one, which is fastest [13:32] I do not understand what is the purpose of this file?! [13:33] pkramerruiz: ok so it figures out which mirror is fastest for you and uses that [13:33] exactly what you wanted [13:33] sure? [13:33] but it seems to be borked here :p [13:33] on maverick i.e [13:35] no other command to execute the process of finding the fastest mirror server? I distrust this method with the txt [13:35] not that i know of, except using the synaptic method [13:36] maybe mvo has dark magic under his sleeve [13:36] :-D [13:36] maybe [13:37] mvo: i guess the .txt stuff is WIP ? [13:37] shadeslayer: yeah, its not prefect yet [13:37] shadeslayer: but feedback is welcome [13:38] well.. it chooses wrong mirror :P [13:38] thats all i care about eventually :D [13:42] mvo: how do establish which mirror is fastest ? you ping each country mirror? [13:42] lp++ for giving me 300 KBps of bandwidth [13:44] mvo: btw heard of deb deltas? [13:45] shadeslayer: I'm not that familiar with the server side, but basicly I think that the way it works [13:45] hmm === bac` is now known as bac [13:47] aha [13:47] mvo: ok when i ping ftp mirror it does not reply [14:00] Hey hackers. Anyone know why xplash is not in Debian? [14:02] You'd think it it got into an Ubuntu release someone would file an ITP and upload [14:02] paultag: maybe debian doesnt want it? :P [14:03] shadeslayer: hehe, what else is new [14:03] does anybody want it? [14:03] o/ [14:03] ^ not me :P [14:03] heh [14:03] plymoth causes a race condition in my kernel fb buffers [14:03] and fails to post past the initrd [14:03] xsplash+kubuntu == death [14:03] so I'm trying to get a splash screen working on squeeze [14:04] so, I'm off to pbuild this dsc for 9.10 against squeeze [14:09] Hello. I have been having periodic system hang issues on my maverick machine. I somehow think that it is related to my bluetooth keyboard and mouse but not sure. Can someone help me diagnose [14:13] !netconsole [14:15] I can't boot with any kernel newer than 2.6.34-5. All of the newer kernels fail to start X and just go into a non-responsive state. Could someone please help diagnose? Thanks. [14:16] Bleeding_Edge, tried live cd? [14:18] No. I have it installed and everytime a new kernel update comes up, I put it in and try. Haven't been successful yet. [15:01] I have been having periodic system hanging issues on my maverick machine. I think that it is related to my bluetooth keyboard and mouse but not sure. Can someone help me diagnose? Thanks [15:07] Bleeding_Edge, follow this procedure and get the logs before the hang... and attach it to a bug report: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Netconsole?action=show&redirect=KernelTeam/Netconsole [15:10] Trouble with the hang is that it is completely unpredictable. I sometimes have uptimes in the order of days and other times in the order of minutes. I can follow this procedure to submit the bug. Any comments on the newer kernels not initializing X and dying? === Cardinal` is now known as CardinalFang === Guest88035 is now known as jussi === jussi is now known as Guest14592 === Guest14592 is now known as jussi01 === jussi01 is now known as jussi [17:48] I am using 10.10, btrfs as root and btrfs as home ,when upgrade, it costs so much time to unpack deb packages. Is there something wrong ? [17:54] I installed it with dvd of 7.20 === jml` is now known as jml [20:18] Hi - Where's the best place to information on the next Ubuntu release ? Is it Maverick ? [20:20] mxe5: yes, it is maverick [20:21] mxe5: and here would be that place. [20:26] Ah found this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule and - Could someone suggest a site that would list major new bits n pieces it will have over the 10.04 release ? [20:27] Better hardware support I assume etc. etc. ? [20:28] there is this, that updates with each milestone - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview [20:28] There are also blueprints in launchpad, blogs, etc scattered all over [20:29] The blueprints would probably be the best place to look for stuff. [20:30] But... there is no one place to look at all the changes coming without digging a little bit [20:30] charlie-tca: That's good starting point - Thanks [20:31] If I was I trying out the Alpha and have questions - This would be a good channel ? [20:32] This is the correct channel for maverick questions, yes [20:32] !topic [20:32] Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [20:32] Someone in the regular support Ubuntu channel said the ubuntu+1 channel is for next release questions correct? [20:33] ok cool Thanks [20:33] mxe5: Thats this channel, yes. [20:33] Pici: THanks [20:36] I have been waffling back an forth on what name or id want to keep for using the IRC - Is it best to register a name or does it matter that much ? [20:37] Registering the name allows you to have that name everytime you use IRC. Not registering means you may not get the same name each time [20:39] more information - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#Registration [20:43] charlie-tca: Ok - so I guess one advantage would be that the more you use IRC or occasionally answer questions that you might know - you would become more recognizable - True statement ? [20:43] true [20:45] I do see some id's allot of the time in the regular ubuntu support IRC and value what suggestions, help, or advice they might offer. [20:46] charlie-tca: thanks - that clears up what I needed to know - Will be back when have time to give the new 10.10 a spin .... [20:46] You are welcome [21:11] is it btrfs thats slow or just the fact im using an alpha os.... [21:12] I have not tried it with ext4 yet, I thought I`d jump right in and use bt, but its quite slow at disk stuff, like now I`m just installing some apps and its taking a lot longer than I`m used to for its configuring, setting up etc. The install itself took an AGE as well.. [21:22] duffydack: from what I hear btrfs seems to be quite slow, especially with dpkg [21:48] crimsun_: you around? I'm having trouble with pulseaudio. [21:49] module-remap-sink.c: Failed to parse module arguments. ... argument: "sink_name=front master=sound_card channels=2 master_channel_map=front-left,front-right channel_map=front-left, front-right" === Tscheesy_ is now known as Tscheesy [21:53] oh, I see... I had a space somewhere. === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [22:39] maybe I'm getting sick [22:39] or the heat damaged my lcd [22:39] but I sure heck see an overlay over pidgin chat bar !!! [22:39] its using 50% of it [22:39] very very strange [22:40] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112892/pidgin.png [22:44] you sick bastard! [22:44] ;) [22:45] ?? [22:45] do you see it in the screenshot? [22:45] I have no idea what to look for [22:46] what is a chat bar? [22:46] you mean the list of channels? [22:46] then I see it.. [22:47] yes [22:47] it showed up NOW [22:47] on a fresh boot [22:47] I did change the them earlier [22:47] could that have caused it ? [22:49] no idea, it looks like it were supposed to be a gradient.. [23:00] yep [23:00] its gone in Ambience [23:04] bahhh [23:05] ambience puts the icons in the left [23:05] going with dust [23:06] Total time: 17.17 [23:06] no im not [23:06] :( [23:06] human Total time: 8.00 [23:06] mew [23:06] need it to be faster [23:06] and human does show the bar too [23:07] * Daekdroom uses a ambiance theme variety that does 16 seconds [23:08] dakr room Total time: 7.70 [23:08] I had 6.7 yesterday on my old them === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG