[00:29] i have a kernel version 2.6.32-24-generic, but i need to apply a patch to 2.6.35-rc, how do i do that? [00:30] JoeMaverickSett: huh? [00:30] your running .32 but want a patch to .35 [00:31] stlsaint, i mean i need to install the .35 then apply the patch [00:31] JoeMaverickSett: you want to compile the .35 kernel? [00:31] stlsaint, the case here is my open source graphic driver cannot hibernate and the patch has to be applied to .35 [00:32] stlsaint, yup. i think so. [00:34] JoeMaverickSett: have you ever compiled anything before? [00:35] stlsaint, eh! nope. :( [00:35] alright well i suggest you start here: http://www.kernel.org/ [00:35] JoeMaverickSett: for the kernel [00:35] stlsaint, alrighty. [00:36] JoeMaverickSett: then here for kernel compiling: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 [00:38] JoeMaverickSett: also here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43065&highlight=kernel+compilation [00:39] stlsaint, wow! i got alot to learn from. i'll take a look at those. thanks. [00:39] JoeMaverickSett: yea those are some good guides [00:40] JoeMaverickSett: they are abit way back but good for starters [00:40] stlsaint, alright. thanks for the tips. [01:24] today i'm using ircle, an irc client on my iBook G4 (PPC -- which has seen its better days go by unfortunately) [01:47] Can any1 help with permissions problem on boot? [01:47] pcw: dejavu [01:47] paultag: hey again [01:48] pcw: so what's up [01:48] I seem to lose permissions to read and write to /dev on boot randomly [01:48] oh cool :) [01:49] other symtoms include server apps not starting up [01:49] eg. apt-cacher [01:49] ssh seems to work fine though [01:49] rebooting fixed the issues [01:50] Simply the worst kinda bug i.e. repeatable but non consistent [01:50] aye [01:50] sec pcw [01:52] pcw: just a sec [01:52] sure [01:53] sup [01:54] ./stlsaint --halp | ./pcw [01:54] paultag: aye [01:55] pcw: do processes crash before your reboot that causes these permission issues? [01:56] stlsaint: did not see anything weird on dmesg [01:56] pcw: is there anything out of the ordinary in dmesh? [01:57] stlsaint: I did a diff with one with problem and one not (both from clean boot) [01:58] stlsaint: did not notice anything out of the blue [01:58] running chmod manually resolved the issue as well [01:58] chmod on what? [01:59] chmod on /dev/dsp, ..., /dev/snd/* [01:59] that will bring back whatever devices I have lost [01:59] during the boot process [01:59] what is your fstab showing? [02:00] nothing out of the ordinary [02:00] does it show all your drives needed? [02:00] standard ext4 and swap mappings [02:00] fstab command you mean? [02:00] or /etc/fstab? [02:01] yes...in /etc/fstab [02:01] only the drive mappings [02:01] one sec [02:01] I am on ubu btw [02:03] pcw: go here and run script and paste the output in pastebin [02:03] http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ [02:04] stlsaint:just a sec === s_ is now known as pablo [02:09] how do i save a patch as a .txt file if a developer has offered one. from which part do i start copy/paste to save?example: http://www.mail-archive.com/dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01446.html [02:12] stlsaint:i am trying to dup the error [02:13] kk [02:13] JoeMaverickSett: save a patch? [02:17] JoeMaverickSett: start at --- [02:17] JoeMaverickSett: so the first line: drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon.h | 3 +- [02:17] copy and paste it into Gedit [02:20] duanedesign: you use screen? [02:21] yes [02:26] stlsaint:http://pastebin.com/9NdUGATD [02:27] one sec [02:28] stlsaint: dont think that gives enough info for the bug [02:30] pcw: /dev/sda3: PTTYPE="dos" [02:30] pcw: ^^ what is that? [02:30] stlsaint:win 7 swap i think [02:32] pcw: windows doesnt use swap persay [02:32] pcw: windows uses paging files [02:33] stlsaint: which is y i quantified the statement with "i think" :) [02:33] it has a random bootloader on it [02:34] yes i restored the original bootloader so virtualbox could work [02:34] by original i mean win 7 original [02:34] pcw: and you still have grub installed? [02:35] how is that?! [02:35] yes [02:35] better yet WHY is that [02:35] i run vbox with grub as bootloader [02:35] for virtualbox to work [02:35] yes me too [02:35] i think that is a problem in its own [02:35] grub is default bootloader [02:35] no it is not [02:36] tat bootloader is and will never be used [02:36] until i load the win7 with virtualbox [02:36] aye, your running vbox on windows [02:38] my vbox host is linux guest is win7 [02:38] unfortunately i had installed win7 b4 i installed vbox [02:39] so i had to reroute the vbox to the installed win7 [02:39] and to get it to work will require restoring the win7 bootloader [02:39] cant seem to find the instructions now [02:40] hrm, one sec [02:49] pcw: well im not seeing anything off the wall in the results [02:49] pcw: tbh im not sure whats causing the permissions issue [02:50] duanedesign, thanks. [02:51] stlsaint:i do not think that the script generates the correct info required [02:51] pcw: well in general i was looking for anthing particular in your partitions on where the are being booted (blikd) and fstab [02:52] pcw: but it does show what permissions those partitions have [02:52] stlsaint: you have been looking in the wrong places [02:52] i will reiterate my problem if you have time [02:53] pcw: alright [02:54] 1: random loss of permissions to read and write devices including /dev/snd/*, /dev/dvb/*, /dev/dsp [02:54] this results in loss of sound and tv [02:54] chmod a+rw manually will fix the problem [02:54] 2: server applications such as apt-cacher fails to start [02:54] curiously ssh works [02:54] JoeMaverickSett: patch tries to skip any leading garbage, apply the diff, and then skip any trailing garbage. Thus you could [02:54] feed an article or message containing a diff listing to patch, and it should work [02:55] :\ [02:55] pcw: all this happens at bootup? [02:55] 3:Problem repeatable but on a random basis [02:55] yes clean boot [02:55] reboot does not seem to have that problem [02:55] at least not that often [02:56] whats problem 3 [02:56] JoeMaverickSett: but it doesnt hurt to try and keep that stuff out [02:56] no more problem 3 [02:57] :) [02:57] duanedesign, i'm confused. anyways, i won't be doing any patching untill i learn how to compile kernel. i'll get back to you all when i do any patchings. ;) [02:58] duanedesign, got alot of things to learn. doing that step by step. hope you can later assist me in my exploration of linux and Ubuntu. =D [02:58] pcw: alright, well only thing i can think of right now is something with user permissions [02:58] JoeMaverickSett: absolutely [02:59] pcw: im assuming your in the admin group and you are "root" [02:59] duanedesign, alright. thanks. right now! reading how to compile a kernel. [03:00] duanedesign: you see those linkys i posted for joe on compiling kernel....from our very own ibuclaw :D [03:00] duanedesign: hey you have any thoughts on pcw's issue? [03:00] stlsaint: ubu users should hav access to those devices via hal or udev right? [03:00] pcw: what release are you runnign? [03:01] stlsaint: one should not need to be root to read those devices [03:01] stlsaint:lucid [03:01] pcw: what do you get from this command: cat /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/51-ubuntu-admin.conf [03:01] should be AdminIdentities=unix-group:admin [03:02] pcw: no you dont need to be root, but like i said something in permissions is finicky [03:02] yep yep [03:02] duanedesign:it's as you said [03:03] [Configuration]\nAdminIdentities=unix-group:admin [03:04] whats in: groups [03:04] pcw adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare [03:06] duanedesign|stlsaint: think it might be a race condition problem [03:07] otherwise it would not be this random [03:07] hmm [03:08] pcw: yea with it being random makes it kinda hard to diag [03:08] pcw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/477832 I havent been reading this whole thread, but does this sound like anything you are experiencing? [03:08] Ubuntu bug 477832 in update-manager (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "User account lost permissions after Karmic upgrade, breaking all audio (affects: 4) (heat: 22)" [Undecided,New] [03:08] also i wouldnt know how to configure udev or anything to troubleshoot [03:09] duanedesign: just a sec [03:09] 2/5 [03:14] pcw: sorry [03:18] stlsaint:no worries and thank you [03:19] duanedesign: the first part seems right but does not seem to affect the server apps or does it [03:22] duanedesign|stlsaint:Thanks for your help. Bug is still unresolved but i gtg now. [03:36] pcw can you state what was being talked about? [03:37] harrison: you can see logs of this channel and many others at irclogs.ubuntu.com I believe they are updated hourly [03:38] Thanks I was looking for that before but I couldn't remember that URL. [03:41] Does IRSSI have a feachur to turn off telling who joins and quits? [03:43] I find that anoying as When I am reading I get "soandso (soandso@soandsos.isp.net)" and it interups my reading. [03:43] /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS [03:43] that should do it [03:43] I will try that. [03:44] It didn't crash so thats good. [03:44] IdleOne What IRC client are you using? [03:45] xchat [03:45] have you ever used IRSSI> [03:45] *? [03:45] very little [03:45] I might try xchat see how it works. [03:46] it is a GUI client [03:47] Thats why I don't have it on my server. [03:48] indeed [03:49] I am curently SSHed into my server runing a screen session running IRSSI talking here. [03:49] That way I can swich betwean computers easly. [03:50] in that case you are using the right client [03:50] there is a #irssi [03:50] There is? [03:50] one moment [03:51] 383 nicks on there [03:53] also http://irssi.org/documentation/faq is something you may want to look at before asking questions in #irssi Not all channels have the same helpful attitude as Ubuntu channels :) [03:53] how do I join a chat room in Xchat? [03:53] /join #channel [03:53] same as with irssi [03:54] Figured [03:54] most commands are cross client [03:55] Would /ignore work to? [03:55] it does [03:55] okay! [03:56] okay that didn't work. [03:57] Gave me an error mesage [03:57] Unknown arg 'JOINS' ignored. [03:57] Unknown arg 'PARTS' ignored. [03:57] Unknown arg 'QUITS' ignored. [03:57] Usage: IGNORE [03:57] mask - host mask to ignore, eg: *!*@*.aol.com [03:57] types - types of data to ignore, one or all of: [03:57] PRIV, CHAN, NOTI, CTCP, DCC, INVI, ALL [03:57] options - NOSAVE, QUIET [03:58] thats the error. [03:59] exit [04:02] harrison: ask in #xchat [04:03] I don't know the exact command. I actually like seeing the join/parts [04:05] Goodnight [04:05] good night [04:06] harrison: in xchat you can also right click on the channel name and go to Settings > Hide Join/Part [04:06] but there is a command to make it global [04:18] help? [04:21] with [04:21] http://divajutta.com/doctormo/foo/ask-smart-questions.pdf [04:22] I just DLed some MP3s and RythymBox doesnt want to play them [04:51] Good night, I need help with my Ubuntu at boot, I installed Storage Device manager on my Ubuntu 10.4 installation to automount at boot an NTFS hardrive, then I wanted to set it back to no automount and I deleted the settings of the sda3 media, Grub works well and my xp installation, but Ubuntu won-t boot, the screen shuts down and i need to restart, any help+ [04:57] Arthur: it's quite likely as you are dual booting, that sda3 was your ubuntu [04:58] Right, I found differences between fstab and fstab.bak, so I restored with the fstab.bak but have the same issue [05:00] Phillw, sda3 apears as ntfs [05:02] and I also have UUID=3fef9346-48dc-4805-a476-6ee8fddef899 as ext4 but permissions for users,noauto [05:02] the guys over at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=333 would be more familiar with such things. [05:02] there are so many variables that you should run the "I've got a problem" script and post the result (In code tags) on there. [05:02] http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ === pedro3005 is now known as 13WAA8E6E [05:03] sorry but where do I run the Ive got problems script? Im currenlty accesing with a live distro === 13WAA8E6E is now known as pedro3005 [05:04] Arthur, which script? [05:05] "I've got a problem" [05:06] would it be possible to use the live usb to reinstall on the same partition without messing with the grub? [12:48] morning all [12:48] lo :) [12:51] hi, can anyone here assist me with installing ubuntu 10.04 [12:51] ? [12:51] out-of-hand, what problems are you having? [12:51] thank u for ur reply [12:51] im installing ubuntu via live cd through windows [12:51] wait....livecd through windows? [12:51] when it gets to the end of the progress bar . i get a "permission denied" [12:52] it gives me a wubi log [12:52] ok...via wubi..ok [12:52] but im confused . and dont know how to fix the issue [12:52] could you post the log to http://paste.ubuntu.com for us? (provide the link it posts to) [12:52] out-of-hand: You probably need to install it as an admin user in order for it to update the boot manager. [12:52] im admin on this pc [12:53] will post it [12:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/469780/ [12:54] sorry. i ment via Wubi :) [12:54] out-of-hand, how much free space is on the HDD you're installing to? [12:55] out-of-hand: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/371264 that suggests it has problems reading the CD. [12:55] Ubuntu bug 371264 in wubi "erroneous "permission denied" on read error (affects: 5) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Fix released] [12:56] hdd i have 50GB free [12:57] is it a CD error ? [12:57] So maybe try burning the CD at lower speed, or mount the ISO using daemontools or something like that. [12:57] geirha, not a livecd it's wubi [12:57] ill explain ... i once had it installed. i then removed it... and could never get it back on ... so i left it for a while. then eventually 10.04 was out. so i tried to install the new one [12:58] slidinghorn: But as I understood it, wubi run from the CD ... [12:58] (or is there a cd *for* wubi) [12:58] geirha, oh ok, sorry...I've never tried through wubi so I'm unfamiliar [12:58] slidinghorn: The desktop CD has a wubi.exe on it. [12:58] ah [12:58] hmmmm... i dont think its the cd... i did burn it at a slow speed .. [12:59] it works as a live cd... when i boot up computer into ubuntu... [12:59] its through windows i seem to have this issue [12:59] out-of-hand: Try booting the CD, hit shift when it starts booting to get a menu, then choose to check cd for defects. [13:00] ok [13:00] (It is shift isn't it?) [13:00] Or possibly any key. It's when you see a purple screen with a keyboard=person logo at the bottom [13:01] if it not that ? [13:01] out-of-hand, after doing that, you may want to try installing from the .exe as opposed to the disk: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer [13:01] geirha, shift is for the grub menu if that's what you're going for [13:01] checking ur link now [13:03] trying again [13:05] will they eventually get a sync program to sync ur nokia phone numbers to pc ? [13:05] ubuntu * [13:06] out-of-hand, not sure what you mean (then again, I have no cell phone, haha) [13:06] i hate windows... been stressing with this alot .. and been getting ubuntu introduced in south africa... [13:06] the creator of Ubuntu is from South Africa :) [13:07] hmmmm... same error... as i get to end of installation ... comes up with permission denied [13:07] yeah i know :) ubuntu rocks ... [13:07] :( [13:08] out-of-hand, ok...looking for more solutions... [13:08] out-of-hand: Do you have a program to mount iso as a virtual cd in windows? [13:08] i remember last year, when i had the previous ubuntu... i deleted it through add and remove programs ... and since then ... had issues to re install [13:09] I'm guessing wubi.exe detected the ubuntu CD in the drive and used that instead of grabbing the iso off the net. [13:09] i will quickly download a virtual mount program [13:09] out-of-hand, here's a post about one: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9070762&postcount=13 [13:10] out-of-hand, check post #16 on that page too [13:11] thanks seems to have relevance to my issue [13:11] brb [13:13] out-of-hand, well, I could always point you to a post about how to use Evolution ;-) haha [13:13] ok ... trying with ubuntu 9.10 iso [13:13] its the only iso i have on this work pc [13:13] Evolution [13:13] ? [13:13] Evolution is the default email client on ubuntu [13:14] similar to Thunderbird (or, a little less, Outlook) [13:14] vice versa^^ [13:14] i was wondering if it was that .... cant get this new version of ubuntu to work :( i did see they took of pidgin and added Evolution [13:14] well they replaced pidgin with empathy -- maybe that's what you're thinking of? [13:15] damn i think u are right.... must be something on the CD i made ... thank u for that :) the 9.10 installed 100% [13:15] evolution's been with Ubuntu for quite a while [13:15] out-of-hand, excellent! [13:15] empathy .. [13:15] oh... haha ... lovely ... im falling behind [13:16] out-of-hand, the main reason I started using linux was to learn...love learning new things -- that's what linux is all about :) [13:16] can one still play games ... wine ? or other software for it ? [13:16] some of them [13:16] you'll have to check compatibility through wine's AppDB http://appdb.winehq.org [13:16] yeah ... i like Linux to ... i started with Suse... was ok .. bat 8 years back ... [13:16] then knoppix... [13:17] now ubuntu cought my attention [13:17] * slidinghorn started with ubuntu -- back when it was Dapper :) [13:17] awsome ... so how did u learn the command lines ? [13:17] the grub [13:17] etc [13:18] actually no...i had hardy first...and installed dapper on another machine [13:18] that's what it was [13:18] brb [13:18] out-of-hand, just practiced...tried to stay away from GUI programs when I could -- also had some experience w/ unix commands from having a VPS [13:19] plus, I read a lot -- spend a *lot* of my free time reading articles online and just trying to learn all I can :) [13:28] awsome... i got too much free time .. will look into it ... [13:28] also another thing [13:28] ok [13:28] can one save repository (updates ) on a cd and update via a cd like before (for those pc without internet access) [13:29] !aptoncd [13:29] APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline [13:29] check that out ^^ [13:29] oh...no link -- let me find you something [13:29] lol [13:29] thanks [13:29] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/APTonCD [13:30] happy to help [13:31] I'll be back in a bit, going to McDonald's to satisfy my sweet tea addiction and head to the office. Should be back in here by 10 :) [13:31] cheerio! [13:31] *it's 8:30 here now -- for those outside of EST, lol [13:31] thank you again and again [13:32] any time....that's what we're here for :) [13:32] be back soon [13:32] sweet :) [13:32] ciao === prabs is now known as Mohan_chml === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [15:14] OMG BGS100 [15:14] hai [15:15] (: how are ya bgs100 ? [15:15] Alright, sad that summer's nearly over... you? [15:16] I am outta town. I think I ll go home tonight (: [15:17] Well, as extremely cliched by hundreds of movies, "there's no place like it" :P [15:21] :o [15:30] hiya hobgoblin [15:31] o/ [15:32] hows life hobgoblin ? [15:33] pretty good ty Mohan_chml - you too I trust [15:34] Yeah. Going on well. I am outta town for the past three days. Hope tonight I ll get back (: [15:34] :) [15:34] where are the kids? [15:35] she is at here mum's [15:35] the other 2 are older ... [15:35] okies [18:43] i have a simple script that mounts network shares, how do i pipe the (sometimes error) output to a file, an appending file [18:44] >> is not working [18:44] not appending [18:44] tried a couple other things too [18:46] i only get the last line of the last command in the file [18:48] hmm nevermind maybe i got it [18:48] i was using >> file.txt instead of >>file.txt [18:53] BGL-[a]: add 2>&1 [18:53] so command 2>&1 >> file.txt [18:53] that way you will also catch the errors and exceptions [18:54] 2>&1 >> file.txt but not 2>&1 >>file.txt ? [18:55] the space seems to make a diff [18:55] just askin [18:55] i'll give it a whirl [18:55] it shouldn't [18:55] spaces don't matter. [18:57] ok that seems to work [18:58] thx [19:06] pleasure [19:48] okay I have a serious problem...Everytime I boot totem comes up trying to play a file on the network to which it no longer has access. so it spams errors until I either kill it connect to the network share or crash. [19:49] I did a purge and reinstall after reboot but the problem persists [19:49] now flash videos no longer work aswell [20:17] I would like to disable hibernation in Lucid. This used to be a simple gconf key but due to Bug #432598 I have to do "mv /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate.disabled;ln -sv /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate /bin/false;dpkg-divert --package pm-utils --divert /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate --rename /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate.disabled". Does anyone have a simpler way? [20:17] Launchpad bug 432598 in upower (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 14 other projects) "Do not show suspend/hiberate related UI if suspend is disabled in polkit (affects: 49) (dups: 3) (heat: 218)" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432598 [20:21] How do I modify the automount system in ubuntu 10.04 to mount usb sticks so that the current user has permission... right now its mounting them as /media/usb with chown of root:root [20:26] How do I modify the automount system in ubuntu 10.04 to mount usb sticks so that the current user has permission... right now its mounting them as /media/usb with chown of root:root [20:27] cosmosis, might want to take a look at this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/automount-permissions-for-external-usb-hhd-555022/ [20:27] thanks looking thru [20:30] ok so here is the thing.... [20:31] the article you referenced is nov 2009 so they were probably using ubuntu 9. [20:31] so they mention checking some keys with gconf-editor [20:31] and gconftool [20:31] those keys dont exisit at all [20:31] its like storage is being managed by something else (probably fuse [20:34] unfortunately I'm not on an Ubuntu system right now & won't be until after 5pm EST...If you're still around then and haven't gotten your issue fixed, I'll see what I can find out for you [20:35] thanks [20:35] looking into it here too... [20:35] cosmosis: fuse would not handle a usb drive [20:35] cosmosis: fuse == filesystem in userspace ( a program ) :) [20:35] any idea what is responsible for automounting usb sticks? [20:36] cosmosis: sure do. HAL, and one other thing [20:36] cosmosis: sec, let me check init, it's in there [20:37]