/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/07/27/#ubuntu-community-team.txt

highvoltagepopey: sorry for the contentless ping earlier, when you said you'll do the notes for the new members, did that include the meetings for June/July that have already elapsed?03:32
nigelbspeaking of inbox control, mine started being more controllable when I stopped sub'ing debian-devel03:41
pleia2nigelb: that's why you put it in a folder and skim it every week! :)03:45
paultagthat's what I do :)03:46
pleia2I also automatically mark bugs as read03:46
nigelbpleia2: well, my laptop crashed.  so all my mail rules are lost! *gasp*03:46
pleia2nigelb: yeah :( sadness03:46
nigelbI'm stuck with gmail web03:46
nigelbevery hour I'd get close to 10 mails03:47
paultagI've topped that :)03:47
pleia2I use gmail web anyway because I use multiple computers throughout the day, imap ftw03:47
paultag+103:47
highvoltageyesterday I unsubscribed from about 50 mailing lists03:47
highvoltageit already feels like a big weight lifted from me03:47
nigelbwow03:48
nigelbpaultag: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Classic-WTF-The-Pie-T-Department.aspx03:48
nigelbelky got me adddicted to that one today ;)03:48
pleia2better than bash.org anyway03:49
paultagnigelb: haha03:49
paultagI'm busy fighting with my netbook03:49
paultagall day03:49
paultagall freeking day03:49
* pleia2 gives paultag's netbook a pet03:49
* paultag 's netbook purrs03:49
nigelbpleia2: I guess the bribe we paid to the guys were worth it.  paultag is busy throughout the day "fixing" it :p03:50
pleia2sshh!03:50
paultagnigelb: you did a darn fine job03:51
nigelbhaha03:51
paultagnigelb: 2.6.3* kernels break03:51
pleia2maybe try a 2.4 kernel03:51
paultagpleia2: 2.6.2* is OK03:52
pleia2not as funny though03:52
paultagpleia2: so I'm running an older kernel, but I had to debootstrap it03:52
pleia2lenny has 2.6.26, you can use that :)03:52
paultagpleia2: long story, it's been one thing after another03:52
pleia2no fun03:52
paultagpleia2: running squeeze :)03:52
paultagpleia2: I can't get my b43 working03:52
paultagI messed something up03:52
paultagand unlike Ubuntu there is no module backports03:52
pleia2ah03:53
pleia2yeah :(03:53
pleia2b43 is such a pain when it doesn't Just Work03:53
paultagpleia2: the module is loaded, but the device is still network UNCLAIMED with no logical name03:53
pleia2yuck03:54
paultagyeah :/03:54
paultagdoing an STA install now03:54
paultagWhoh...03:57
paultagit worked?03:57
paultagI'm so using Module-Assistant from now on...03:57
pleia2lol03:57
nigelbhaha03:58
paultagHello, World!03:58
paultagWoo! It works!03:58
paultagWell, it's official. I'm back to where I was four days ago.03:58
pleia2paultag is playing http://xkcd.com/349/03:59
paultaghahahahaha03:59
paultagWell, good news is I never went to BSD03:59
pleia2hehe03:59
paultagWoo!04:00
paultagrunning Debian Squeeze, XFCE off a bootstrap. Huzzah04:00
duanedesignpleia2: lol, thats funny04:01
nigelbok, work time.  Time to get ready!04:07
nigelblater folks!04:07
paultagl8r04:07
pleia2doctormo: wow, this packaging guide series of svgs is very impressive so far (you sent me the link 11 days ago, but my brain was full then)04:32
nhandlerI only briefly glanced at them. Some of them are a bit outdated, for instance, I would go with the machine-readable format for debian/copyright (not sure if Debian every officially adopted it, but it is easier)04:34
pleia2yeah, it's actually been a while since I've created a package from scratch so I can't speak to the up-to-dateness of it (I might do some of the same steps if I were to make a package today)04:36
pleia2and I've never actually used pbuilder04:36
paultagwhaaaa?04:37
paultagpbuilder is my <304:37
nhandlerWhat do you use to testbuild pleia2 ? sbuild?04:37
paultagdholbach taught me how to use pbuilder04:37
paultagin his youtube videos :)04:38
pleia2nhandler: I just build :\04:39
nhandlerpleia2: naughty, naughty ;)04:39
pleia2I am from the past!04:39
pleia2actually, I have been meaning to brush up my skills, a lot has changed04:39
paultagyou guys wana see my new netbook?04:40
pleia2paultag: is it pink?04:40
nhandlerpaultag: I think I saw a picture of it already04:40
paultaghttp://i.imgur.com/R8w6j.png <-- This is my new netbook :D04:40
paultagnhandler: I just finished this04:40
paultagnhandler: oh, no, not the case :)04:40
paultagIt's running Debian Squeeze + xfce04:41
pleia2yay mouse!04:41
nhandlerpaultag: I'm a bit surprised at therelatively basic conky setup you have04:41
paultagI call it Forkbomb Linux04:41
paultagnhandler: I'll work on it as I go :)04:41
paultagIt's really nice, actually04:41
paultagI'm quite happy with it04:41
nhandlerI'm glad you are happy. I've had a long couple of days where none of my programs are working the way they should coupled with some boring summer work04:42
paultagyeah. It was a long day, and it was a bad fight04:43
paultagI had to install debian off an ubuntu 9.10 cd on a SD card04:43
paultagerm... that's not normal.04:43
paultagI'm really stoked04:45
paultagit came out fantastic.04:45
pleia2:)04:45
paultagand thank you pleia2 for finally giving a talk that made me consider xfce seriously :)04:45
pleia2woohoo!04:46
pleia2this is the part where I mention that the xubuntu folks are always looking for volunteers04:46
pleia2it's a *tiny* dev team04:46
paultagI thought the xubuntu install was very comfortable04:47
paultagI'd be willing to help them when I clear out some of my existing work04:47
paultagI can't over commit :)04:47
* pleia2 nods04:47
paultagI'm off for the night04:49
paultag'night all04:49
nhandlerNight paultag04:57
=== jussi is now known as Guest88035
sensegood morning!07:07
kim0Good morning all07:10
nigelbgood morning!07:17
dholbachgood morning08:06
nigelbmorning dholbach :)08:08
dholbachhey nigelb08:11
huatsmorning !08:32
=== Tm_K is now known as Tm_T
dholbachcan somebody proofread https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Organisation - does it look OK?09:38
dholbachakgraner: does this look OK?09:38
nigelbdholbach: maybe ask in ubuntu-devel too?10:00
nigelbwait, you have motu-mentors thrice10:00
dholbachhaha10:03
dholbachnice motu-mentors coverage10:03
dholbachfixed10:04
vishdholbach: hehe , say it several times people are bound to listen , ! nice :)10:04
dholbachgorilla marketing10:04
nigelbdholbach: you can probably add kubuntu devel and edubuntu devel there too10:15
dholbachjono: UGJ announce today?10:34
czajkowskimorning10:46
popeyLO!10:50
czajkowskijono: you have mail from me that is kinda urgent to look into, Turkey have lost their domain name and they do all of their work via their forums which is now a parking site for some domain name10:50
jonoczajkowski, will get to it ASAP - on my last meeting10:51
jonoczajkowski, I am amazed IS did not resolve this10:52
jonoI pinged them10:52
czajkowskijono: I had the guy rant/give up/rather upset at me at 12pm last night understandably10:52
jonocompletely understandable10:52
jonoczajkowski, #canonical-sysadmin10:53
dholbachhey popey, hey czajkowski10:53
czajkowskidholbach: hello there10:55
dholbachINBOX 66, this morning it was INBOX 10011:25
czajkowskimaking progress11:27
dholbachjcastro: I'll postpone all daily builds tuition sessions for now11:34
doctormoMorning czajkowski and dholbach11:50
dholbachhi doctormo11:51
doctormodholbach: You guys still traveling?11:51
dholbachdoctormo: I'm not11:51
dholbachdpm, jcastro and jono are11:51
doctormoah11:52
paultagmorning dholbach, doctormo11:52
dholbachhey paultag11:52
* dholbach → lunch11:52
paultagdoctormo: you're up; quite early11:52
paultagdholbach: :)11:52
nigelbdoctormo: rhonda was looking fer ya11:53
doctormo𝅘𝅥𝅯 we're on the road the nowhere 𝅘𝅥𝅯11:54
doctormonigelb: Oh? what about?11:54
doctormopaultag: Got sleep and everything.11:54
nigelbdoctormo: german translation for your latest creation11:55
nigelbcheck scrollback in #ubuntu-motu11:55
doctormonigelb: Ah it exists?12:02
doctormonigelb: I checked the backlog, nothing I could see..12:04
paultagdoctormo: killer12:22
ScottLjono, i see that you wrote an article in LXF about Launchpad, that is outstanding!  hopefully this helps a lot of people develop a better understanding of it :)12:30
jonothanks ScottL :)12:38
jonobiab, heading out for lunch12:38
czajkowskidoctormo: done your daily doodle ?12:39
paultagdoctormo: did you see my netbook?12:39
paultagdoctormo: http://i.imgur.com/R8w6j.png :D12:40
duanedesignmorning all12:47
paultaglo :)12:48
doctormopaultag: helllo13:34
paultagdoctormo: hola13:34
doctormoScottL: I still haven't got my copy of LXF, I think I need to double check with akgraner about it.13:35
doctormo1GB of ram in a netbook... oh my, what are people using all this ram for.13:35
paultagdoctormo: this thing is rocking out loud13:39
highvoltagedoctormo: flash!13:39
paultagdoctormo: I have it totally themed13:39
paultag+1 highvoltage !!!13:40
paultagdoctormo: I have the netbook booting to gdm in under 15 seconds without even touching the startup stuff13:43
doctormohighvoltage: Hey, flash?13:43
paultagdoctormo: you don't use flash?13:46
doctormopaultag: Not really, I'm subjected to it from time to time, but it's not something I active choose to use.13:46
highvoltagedoctormo: yeah flash. we're talking about "people", aren't we ;)13:47
doctormohighvoltage: Flash the super hero?13:49
highvoltagenope, definitely not13:50
paultagyeah the other flash13:51
dholbachUbuntu Global Jam announced :)14:59
paultag:D15:00
scott-workdholbach: did you get any solutions for xwax?15:01
paultagwhoh dholbach15:02
paultagdholbach: it's really early this year15:02
dholbachpaultag: no, around beta time again :)15:02
dholbachscott-work: no, I didn't have much time to dive into it, I need to put more effort into testing it with a couple of different kernels properly15:02
paultagdholbach: shoot, I'll be in Mass. I'll need to get my team to get this together this year :'(15:03
dholbachscott-work: I at least installed a couple of old ones already and I had the feeling that the lucid-release worked, but that was only 20 minutes of testing15:03
scott-workdholbach: re: lucid-release - hmmm, at least that is promising, can you let either me or abogoni know the results please?15:05
dholbachscott-work: will do15:06
dholbachthanks for your interest in this15:06
scott-workdholbach: your welcome15:08
scott-workdholbach: by the way, you may not be aware (i've kept it slightly on the down low) but i am the current ubuntu studio project lead15:08
dholbachoh nice - was there an announce of the news? :)15:08
scott-workdholbach: i did on ubuntustudio-users and ubuntustudio-devel mailing list, but that was really it15:09
dholbachok15:10
dholbachso no blog post and mail to ubuntu-devel@ or something? :)15:10
scott-workdholbach: i did it so that they could see that someone was there and actively participating on improveming studio, sort of to build morale and confidence with the users15:10
* dholbach nods15:11
scott-workdholbach: no, i was unaware about ubuntu-devel@ mail, persia finally told me to announce myself on #ubuntu-release, which i did, but i only scottk and one other person took notice15:11
scott-workalthough ak.graner is suppose to interview me for the fridge and i got my blog on planet ubuntu15:13
dholbachnice :)15:13
dholbachnhandler: THANKS15:20
dholbach:-D15:20
nhandlerdholbach: I was just posting the UDW message on the fridge. For the ical, any reason for keeping it separate? It needs to go on the learning events calendar anyway15:21
nhandlerAnd you are welcome :)15:21
dholbachnhandler: UDW message?15:21
nhandlererr, now I'm getting my events mixed up (I posted Global Jam on the fridge ;) )15:21
dholbachwhat about which ical?15:21
dholbachI'm confused now :)15:21
nhandlerdholbach: Sorry. On the UDW wiki page, you mention an ical that they can subscribe to with all of the events. Why use a separate ical instead of just using the learning events ical?15:22
dholbachnhandler: I have no idea who set it up15:22
dholbachI'm happy with whatever really15:22
nhandlerdholbach: Alright. I'll update the wiki link and that should hopefully take care of it15:23
dholbachgracias15:23
doctormodholbach: http://doctormo.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2uc0cr Global Jam15:32
dholbach:-)15:34
vishhehe , "Age 14" :D15:40
jonoczajkowski, all ok with the domain issue?15:51
huatsjono, she's away for some time (1h) and I don't think there is ay new element15:53
huats(the last time she exposed it at least)15:54
jonothanks huats15:54
paultagjono: yeah, it's still parked15:54
jonothanks paultag - I spoke with IS and got some assigned to providing czajkowski with updates15:56
paultagjono: thanks, you rock :)15:56
jonothanks paultag15:57
jono...and I don't rock :)15:57
jonoI just help coordinate who do rock15:58
paultagyour shameless humility is quite noteworthy jono :)15:58
jonopaultag, lol16:03
czajkowskialoha16:07
czajkowskijono: ticket is gone to private can#t read it but ng said he'd let me know an update16:07
jonoczajkowski, cool16:07
jonoczajkowski, hassle Ng about it if there is no progress16:07
akgranerdholbach, your wiki looks great!16:08
czajkowskijono: thanks for the help16:08
jonoczajkowski, np16:08
dholbachakgraner: thanks16:09
dholbachjust wanted to see if you were OK with it16:09
akgranerdholbach, yep - I need to transfer the marketing stuff from the googledoc to the wiki - and then I'll add a link to your wiki as well16:10
akgranersorry - I've just been slammed here the last couple weeks - but I'll get it all caught up ASAP16:10
akgraner:-(16:10
dholbachawesome16:10
dholbachdon't worry, take it easy!16:11
czajkowskidoctormo: stop top posting!16:16
doctormoczajkowski: But it wasn't a response in context!16:20
czajkowskidoctormo: well, yes it was, you were replying to my mail, giving out about monthly reports16:21
doctormoczajkowski: Top posting is quite ok for this kind of thing.16:21
AlanBellno need to include the bottom in that instance16:22
czajkowskifor when you want to disagree with an entire mail is it?16:22
doctormoczajkowski: Where there is a sufficient insufferably to the entire affair.16:25
czajkowskidoctormo: wow, don't hold back there16:26
czajkowskidoctormo: reports should be a 3 min job, doesn't have to be one person doing it16:27
czajkowskiif it's one person doing everything , it's not really a community is it16:27
paultagThat's right.16:27
paultagdoctormo: it takes like 10 minutes. If you can't do 10 minutes a week to ensure we know what's going on, it's not a good sign either.16:27
doctormoczajkowski: Yes I kept on saying that.16:28
czajkowskino you just complained about the council asking for report, it's not just us looking for them, everyone wants to see reports16:29
doctormopaultag: The process is still WORN, tact on. It doesn't flow, it's not elegant. It's all rather an after thought to the work flow of even organisation.16:29
jonohttp://www.jonobacon.org/2010/07/27/ubuntu-global-jam-start-your-engines/16:29
paultagdoctormo: I disagree totally16:29
AlanBelldoctormo: I have started to read team reports16:30
paultagme as well, and if it turns into automated mail, I won't16:30
paultagand if we don't use it, why do it?16:30
doctormopaultag: I would actually like to read what other teams are up to, but I dare not waste hours digging through a disorganised set of wiki pages.16:31
doctormoIt's not like the idea is a bad one, it's not, it's great. Execution though.16:31
AlanBellthe process is all upstream of the locos anyway in the consolidated page16:31
AlanBellhuh?16:31
AlanBelldoctormo: have you seen the consolidated report page?16:31
paultagthere are strict guidelines doctormo16:31
paultag+1 AlanBell16:31
jonodholbach, looking forward to seeing UGJ events added to the loco dir :-)16:31
czajkowskijono: the global event for it has been created so just up to teams to link to it16:32
jonoI am going to add one now16:32
jonoczajkowski, indeed16:32
AlanBellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports/June2010 is the June report, it is all done with <<include>> moin macros16:32
paultagAlanBell: +116:32
paultagdoctormo: guidelines here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/TeamReporting16:32
czajkowskiaye and we all can follow the nice set up, or get someone to set it up16:32
doctormoOK so not wading through, it's still a wiki though.16:33
czajkowskior ASK FOR HELP!16:33
paultagdoctormo: more here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/TeamReporting/HowTo16:33
czajkowskidoctormo: I honestly, think you just have an issue with anything the loco council are trying to do to help locos16:33
doctormoczajkowski: I like the loco directory.16:33
jonodholbach, would be cool also if when adding an event for a global jam which has the dates set, if it only showed a date picker within those dates16:34
czajkowskijono: aye would be nice, but I think most folks want the timezone issue sorted more so than picking a date, as some teams hold their event the following week depending on loco circumstances16:35
AlanBellI can see that if you didn't know about the consolidated report then the team reporting thing would seem a bit pointless16:35
dholbachjono: can you file a bug for that?16:35
huatsdoctormo, the LD is not really drived by the LC16:35
czajkowskidoctormo: the LD isn't us, we use it and encourage teams to use it also16:35
doctormohuats: Well they didn't start it, but I'm sure the LoCo council fully support it, right?16:35
jonodholbach, will do16:36
dinda1ack, dang redirect on the ubuntu wiki to help.ubuntu.com is too fast!16:36
dholbachjono: thanks16:36
jonoI just added http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/223/detail/ :-)16:36
huatsdoctormo, of course16:36
dholbachjono: awesome16:36
dholbachjono: I have to rework my geographic-regrouping fix - I'm on it now and hope we can get another release out afterwards16:36
dinda1since the last page I visited was a redirected page, now when I try to access the wiki I get shot over to the help site instead16:37
jonodholbach, perfect, thanks!16:37
jonodholbach, if you could land that ASAP it will make it much easier for viewing all the new events :)16:38
dholbachjono: I won't finish it today16:38
jonodholbach, np16:38
jonodholbach, this week would be sweet if possible :)16:38
dholbachok16:39
jonodholbach, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/61049516:42
ubot2Ubuntu bug 610495 in loco-directory "For global events, the new event date picker should be constrained within the date region (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]16:42
czajkowskijono: don't forget #locoteams tag whe tweeting16:42
dholbachthanks jono16:43
jonoczajkowski, I did for the UGJ announce16:43
greg-gwow, the loco directory looks good now!16:43
czajkowskijono: you're a keeper16:43
jonogreg-g, :-)16:43
jonoczajkowski, ahhh you are the real keeper :)16:43
jonodholbach, czajkowski https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/61049816:48
ubot2Ubuntu bug 610498 in loco-directory "About page should be about LoCo Teams, not the directory (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]16:48
czajkowskiadded loco council to it16:49
jonothanks czajkowski16:52
czajkowskino bother shall go poke em16:52
czajkowskiwe're having an extra council meeting next week16:52
dholbachalright my friends16:54
dholbachI call it a day16:54
dholbachsee you all tomorrow16:54
* dholbach hugs you all16:54
jononight dholbach16:54
jono:-)16:54
czajkowskidholbach: nn16:55
* jono hugs dholbach16:55
dholbachbye guys16:57
=== Guest88035 is now known as jussi
=== jussi is now known as Guest14592
=== Guest14592 is now known as jussi01
=== jussi01 is now known as jussi
doctormoczajkowski: Having had a thought about what I was trying to say and how it came across. I wanted to apologise, what I meant was for a constructive dialog on improving the situation and I'm aware that what I wrote was not a primer for that. Instead I feel I may have put communicated doubt in the good work of the loco council and it's members and that was not my intention.17:47
doctormoSorry17:48
highvoltagedoctormo: hmm? doesn't sound like something that happened in this channel?18:09
pleia2highvoltage: loco-contacts list18:10
doctormopleia2: Should I post that to the list do you think?18:10
pleia2doctormo: I think so, yeah18:10
highvoltageah, I guess it would be more appropriate to apologise directly to czajkowski or on the list then :)18:10
doctormohighvoltage: The after effects appeared here, so I thought this was most appropriate. I'll get it sent to the list now.18:11
highvoltagedoctormo: ah. yes I just read your mail and couldn't find anything worth apologizing for. ok18:11
AlanBelldoctormo: don't beat yourself up about it!18:13
doctormohighvoltage, AlanBell: The problem is that I communicate negative aspects by omission a lot. Own worst enemy and all that.18:15
highvoltagedoctormo: I can relate :)18:15
czajkowskidoctormo: thank you18:18
doctormopaultag: I just figured out a bug in English.19:37
doctormopaultag: Should I use "Your added" or "You're added"... both seem acceptable if slightly different.19:37
paultagdoctormo: but there needs to be more19:38
paultagdoctormo: right?19:38
paultagdoctormo: you're added to blah, or your added modifications ...19:38
paultagit depends on the object, I think19:39
paultagdirect object *19:39
paultagright?19:40
paultagdoctormo: or is your bug unrelated to this use case?19:40
doctormoYea I guess anyone could have bugs with incomplete sentences.19:40
paultaghaha19:40
doctormopleia2: With your CC hat on, someone on your blog suggested a "How to Answer Questions" guide for people who want to help (here irc, forums etc).20:10
doctormoWhat are your thoughts?20:10
pleia2doctormo: I read that question as "how helpers could be nicer" - presumably from someone who felt the helpers were curt with them20:11
doctormopleia2: Yes, do you think it's not a serious request? Maybe something to ask at the next CC meeting?20:12
pleia2doctormo: if it's IRC-based, I think it's more appropriate for an IRCC meeting20:12
pleia2I am not sure if it's a serious request20:12
doctormoOK, fuzzy thoughts, I'll keep the idea in mind if ever it comes up again.20:13
czajkowskiI think it depends sometimes in the channel questions that are asked.  if there has been 3-4 other questions prior to it, people ae often tired, and want people to get to the point if they've not asked a question correctly or asked to ask a question20:13
czajkowskialso sometimes you're dealing with a lanauge barrier I find and things can be taken up wrong, as one cannot tell tone over irc20:14
pleia2honestly the IRC support staff does a great job, it's improved a lot over the years20:14
czajkowskiaye it has20:15
czajkowskibut I find in ubuntu-namespace at times when channels are quieter it's a bit harder20:15
czajkowskinamely as there aren't enough people around at a time20:15
czajkowskiwhich is just a timezone issue really20:15
PiciSome of our helpers can be a bit short at times, and others suggest google as their only answer, but we do our best to curb that behavior when we can.20:16
doctormoPerhaps then a guide for helpers wouldn't be so much a repetition of the CoC, but something more based around best practices, useful places to go or keep in your browser bookmarks? Useful practical things?20:16
doctormoPici: Are you on the IRCC?20:17
Picidoctormo: I am indeed.20:17
doctormothen perhaps you would be the person to speak to about getting a link to http://doctormo.org/2010/07/26/how-to-ask-for-translations/ perhaps for the #ubuntu topic?20:18
doctormoA short url20:18
Picidoctormo: I'll propose it to the rest of the IRCC20:20
doctormoThanks Pici20:20
nhandlerWell, I re-learned why I don't like #perl, I can never get answers in there20:53
paultagwhat else is new ;)20:53
doctormonhandler: I used to hang out there way back when20:55
nhandlerdoctormo: Speaking of that, did you see my last PM about switching to the OO approach (which doesn't work)?20:55
doctormoI did yes, For some reasonI think perl's gettext is broken.20:56
nhandlerlol20:56
nhandlerI would have thought someone would have noticed (there have to be other apps that use it). And it does look like some people have had it work for them (although that doesn't mean it didn't break recently)20:56
doctormonhandler: More likely it works if the mo files are in the system directory.21:20
doctormoYou could always go through the gettext module and debug it.21:20
doctormothat's what I did with the python one to figure out why I couldn't get it working.21:20
doctormocjohnston: Woot, I got Hebrew and Polish translations and taught 2 more people how to use ground control.21:42
cjohnstonawesome!21:43
doctormocjohnston: You gotta admit, it looks pretty when they're all next to each other http://doctormo.org/2010/07/26/how-to-ask-for-translations/21:47
* nhandler is looking forward to having ClassBots available in all languages ;)21:48
paultagthis would be cool :)21:48
cjohnstonlol doctormo21:48
paultagnhandler: make it policy to add a meta field for nickserv called lang, and have classbot hit that for the instructor's language21:49
doctormocjohnston: For some reason spanish, arabic and chinese are hard to get translations for.21:49
nhandlerpaultag: I need to get translations working properly first normally. Then I can play around with other stuff like that21:49
paultagnhandler: for sure.21:49
nhandlerdoctormo: I would think Spanish would be easy21:50
cjohnstonI have a buddy who speaks arabic.. but he wouldnt be into doing translations21:50
doctormo*shrug* no offers yet.21:50
paultagdoctormo: seek people out :)21:50
paultagdoctormo: ask in #ubuntu-beginners-team, there are quite a few people from S.A.21:50
paultagdoctormo: as for arabic, try the egypt team, they are kinda active ( active enough )21:50
nhandlerHmm...Someone should link Dell to the new Ubuntu branding21:51
paultagnhandler: they dropped a lot of support21:51
paultagnhandler: I don't think they care tbh21:51
nhandlerpaultag: They just added a bunch of new machines (see omgubuntu): http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs21:51
paultagwhaa?21:51
czajkowskiwhy not ask matthew helmke21:51
paultag9.04 >:(21:51
czajkowskihe speaks arabic21:52
doctormopaultag: You've been reading OMG haven't you :-D21:52
paultagdoctormo: I don't read OMGUbuntu :/21:52
doctormopaultag: Ah they had an article of Ubuntu dropping Ubuntu.21:52
paultaghaha wha?21:52
doctormoThanks czajkowski21:53
doctormopaultag: I meant to say Dell dropping Ubuntu21:53
paultagAhh21:53
paultagthat makes more sense21:53
doctormoThat did come out funny thought21:53
paultagI thought it was a funny post21:53
nhandlerdoctormo: They had a new article within the hour about the PR person they cited being wrong21:54
* nhandler finds it funny the 3 computers listed include 1 with Moblin Remix, 1 with Desktop Edition 10.04, and one with 9.1021:54
paultaghahaha21:55
paultagdoctormo: what's the license on your setup.py script for starf / gc ?21:55
paultagdoctormo: nvmd looks GPLv3, I'm stealing it21:58
doctormopaultag: Yup21:59
paultagbbl, cheers all21:59
senseGood night everyone! How're you?22:29
czajkowskisense: hey enjoying guadec22:29
senseczajkowski: I've been sitting mostly behind the registration desk (doing non-registration stuff), haven't seen anything of the BoFs and such. But it is fun!22:30
senseThe Hague really is a nice city.22:30
czajkowskigreat22:31
senseReally a shame you're not here, would have loved to meet you again.22:31
senseczajkowski: On a LoCo related side: this is also a great opportunity to get to know the GNOME Dutch people better since I'm basically hanging out with them the whole time. I would like to make GNOME Dutch more well-known in Ubuntu NL and see how we can cooperate.22:34
czajkowski*nods*22:34
senseI've also had the change to speak to Sebastian (SWAT) for a short while, which is useful.22:34
senseHe'll probably try to take some Ubuntu CDs with him the LoCo still had left over so we will be the only distro with CDs available. :P22:35
senseDespite the fact that most of the GNOME Dutch people are non-Ubunteros! ;)22:35
sensecoup d'etat!22:35
senseé22:35
czajkowskisense: loving the blogging keep it up22:36
senseczajkowski: Thank you! I'll try to do that every day.22:36
senseczajkowski: You're following the live feed, right?22:37
czajkowskiyup22:37
senseczajkowski: Great!22:39
senseWe're working on video streams right now for the next three days.22:40
senseThey will be in WebM.22:40
sensePlease let me know if the video and social media streams have problems.22:40
senseI find it important that people at home, like you, can at least monitor GUADEC.22:41
czajkowskiwill do22:41
sensethanks!22:43
doctormosense: I didn't think Ubuntu 10.04 supported webm yet22:49
czajkowskiworks fine on my mini 922:50
sensedoctormo: Yes, that is the problematic part. We'll be providing links to alphas, betas, nightlies and dailies for people who actually want to see the stream.22:50
doctormosense: Does ogg not cut the mustard?22:51
senseI think that Flumotion wanted to use the opportunity to test and demonstrate their WebM streaming.22:51
senseWe're actually glad we've got anything at all. A few weeks ago the video streaming was very uncertain.22:51
sensedoctormo: You probably mean Theora here, as WebM is using Ogg for the audio.22:53
doctormosense: Actually it's using Vorbis for the audio, ogg is a container format which webm doesn't use.22:57
senseah, of course, I always confuse those two. :P22:59
senseAnd I thought I was correcting you! ...22:59
doctormosense: ah well, the oft wrong is sometimes not. Picking apart the whole mpeg/avi/aac malarky and doing some background legal on each format gives some perspective.23:37
doctormonigelb: ping23:38
doctormocjohnston: Before I was looking at the "About" bug reported by jono and I thought, "I have a great idea, why not put the about loco directory in the footer"... I get to the report and you've already thought it and made examples. Heh Ubuntu community of smart cookies.23:43

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!