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TheMusoRAOF: Hey Chris. How was your trip?01:11
RAOFTheMuso: Morning Luke.  Pretty much as can be expected.01:11
TheMusoYeah same here. Have you recovered somewhat?01:11
RAOFSomewhat.01:11
RAOFI don't think this is going to be my most productive day ever, though :)01:12
TheMusoYeah thats how yesterday was for me. :)01:12
RAOFThere was a certain amount of excitement leaving Prague - the flight from Prague was delayed a bit, so there was some concern about making my connection at Heathrow.01:13
TheMusoOuch.01:13
RAOFIt turned out fine.01:13
TheMusoYeah I gathered as much,01:13
RAOFWhile they recommend allocating 2 hours for transfer at Heathrow, turns out you can do it in ~30 minutes :)01:14
TheMusowow that is quick.01:14
RAOFYour flights were pleasantly uneventful?01:15
TheMusoYep01:15
TheMusoStill don't feel 100%, but a few early nights should fix that.01:15
TheMusoPlus some exercise.01:16
RAOFYeah.01:16
TheMusoNice to be back on the desktop again.01:23
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pittiGood morning06:12
TheMusoHey pitti.06:13
micahggood morning pitti06:13
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huatsmorning08:27
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vishseb128: hi , you at guadec? or .. back ?10:33
TheMusovish: He is at guadec this week.10:33
vishTheMuso: ah .. cool  thanks :)10:34
TheMusonp10:34
seb128vish, GUADEC for the week10:36
vishseb128: have fun :)10:36
seb128thanks10:37
seb128vish, do you need anything?10:37
chrisccoulsonhey seb128, having fun?10:37
seb128chrisccoulson, yes10:37
seb128though opening days are sort not so well organized10:37
vishseb128: nah , nothing urgent , just a few bugs wanted to ask you about. it can wait a week :)10:38
seb128but nice to talk to people there10:38
seb128vish, just ask10:38
chrisccoulsonhmmm, xchat crashed :/10:38
vishseb128: well , there are a few bugs which are specific to Ubuntu changes and they have patches.. they need to be reviewed. we missed them last cycle too , was wondering if there is a way to make sure we dont miss it again10:39
seb128can you build a list of those and maybe tag them in some way?10:40
seb128we will review them then10:40
vishseb128: and about Bug 15495 , i believe we already carry your patch  , but it just needs a a little change in the titlebar10:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 15495 in file-roller (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) ""Archive Manager" doesn't mean anything if you don't know what an "archive" is (affects: 6) (dups: 1) (heat: 55)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1549510:41
vishseb128: sure , i have the list , its about 10-12 bugs .. hence wanted to wait :)10:41
tseliotvish: did you get any reply from other gtk+ devs on the right-click bug?11:16
vishtseliot: yeah , i dint know how to proceed further with that one either..  should we just get bratsche to commit or ..?11:17
tseliotvish: yes, whoever has the authority to do so11:18
vishbratsche: can you commit this one > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591258  the accessibility team has also reviewed it and given it a green light11:20
ubot2Gnome bug 591258 in gtk "Easy to accidentally select first option in popup menus" [Minor,Unconfirmed]11:20
vishbratsche: and ebassi has reviewed it too , but dint commit it yet..11:21
bratschetseliot, vish: It looks fine to me I think.  I'm running a quick build first just to test it though.11:39
bratscheI'll comment on the bug# in a little bit.11:39
vishbratsche: thanks :)11:39
tseliotbratsche: fantastic. Thanks11:40
bratscheAnyone know where the source for clearlooks is by any chance?11:42
bratscheAh, nevermind.. I found it in gtk-engines11:44
bratschetseliot: I forgot that someone has my second monitor since I haven't been using it.. do you have a 2-monitor setup that can reproduce that rgba issue?11:54
tseliotbratsche: sure11:55
bratschetseliot: What's the error? Is it causing a crash?11:55
bratschetseliot: I updated my patch a few days ago to set an X error handler, and if it traps a BadMatch error then it tries to revert the colormap to the system one.  This seems to fix some things.11:56
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tseliotbratsche: nice, it the new patch in maverick?11:58
tseliots/it/is/11:58
bratscheNope, I'm trying to find the list of bugs in Launchpad so I can do some testing first.11:58
bratscheUnfortunately, Launchpad is not the easiest thing to find things in. :)11:59
tseliotbratsche: ok, let me find the bug report11:59
tseliotI think there should be an entry in the changelog with my name11:59
tseliotthat should contain the bug number11:59
tseliotin nautilus12:00
bratscheOkay cool.12:00
tseliotbratsche: LP: #50889012:00
tseliotbug #50889012:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 508890 in nautilus (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "Nautilus crashes when there are multiple XScreens (affects: 35) (dups: 9) (heat: 234)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50889012:01
tseliotthe details there should help you12:02
bratschetseliot: Thanks!12:04
tseliotnp, thanks for working on it12:04
* tseliot reboots12:09
chrisccoulsonhi mvo - do you know why apturl doesn't ship a apturl.js preferences file for firefox anymore?12:39
chrisccoulsonit used to many releases ago, but seems to have been dropped at some point12:39
mvochrisccoulson: no, that sounds like a mistake12:39
mvochrisccoulson: I can dig into the bzr history12:40
chrisccoulsoni was going to add it back again so that apturl registers as a protocol handler in firefox again12:40
mvothanks, please do12:40
chrisccoulsonmvo - no worries, i will just resurrect the old file12:40
chrisccoulsonthanks12:40
mvoand just commit12:40
mvothanks :)12:40
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vishmvo: hi , for Bug 602705 and Bug 602820 , the maintainers dont seem to know why the wrong package/description is being pulled13:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 602705 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Description: Akonaditray (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60270513:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 602820 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Wrong Firefox package is displayed by default in SC (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60282013:31
vishkiwinote: too ^^13:32
vishhehe , everyone says mvo is python overlord who would know :D13:32
mvovish: I check that, thanks13:34
vishmvo: thanks  :)13:34
chrisccoulsonmvo - the issue with apturl was just that the file was being installed to the wrong place (due to a firefox change)13:45
chrisccoulsoni can upload it now, but can't push to the bzr branch, do you just want to merge in my changes afterwards?13:45
mvochrisccoulson: I'm fine with merging, but isn't that in ~ubuntu-core-dev?13:47
chrisccoulsonmvo - it is, but i'm not a core-dev (but the package is in the ubuntu-desktop packageset)13:47
chrisccoulsonwhich is a bit weird ;)13:47
mvochrisccoulson: yeah, I can merge, thats fine13:50
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chrisccoulsonmvo - it's uploaded now, and i've pushed my changes to lp:~chrisccoulson/apturl/apturl.lp57694413:53
mvochrisccoulson: commited a r97 - sounds like we need to put a bit of work into it to celebrate r100 soon ;)14:11
seb128pitti, hey there, could you get unity build score raised?14:37
seb128didrocks, ^14:37
didrocksmvo: thanks for your plugin viewmanager branch. It's working perfectly (with the fact to add to the model, which isn't a big deal for now)14:39
didrocksmvo: and the cache model is refreshed once integrated, work nicely :)14:39
didrocksit seems that clicking directly on install/remove doesn't work though, don't know why (only add all/remove all)14:39
pittiseb128: bumped14:42
didrockspitti: seb128 thanks :)14:42
didrockspitti: once built and published, I'll ask you for a respin of the iso if possible14:42
didrocksmvo: the viewmanager seems to switch the current view sometimes unexpectidely, not sure if that's because of the plugin or a general issue14:43
seb128pitti, thanks14:43
mvodidrocks: nice!14:43
mvodidrocks: I think that is a general issue14:43
didrocksmvo: thanks again :)14:43
mvodidrocks: I had the problem too14:44
didrocksok14:44
didrockswell, I'll package oneconf now and get it into universe14:44
mvodidrocks: yeah, I'm very happy too :) I think it made the code a lot better, far from perfect, but a lot better14:44
mvodidrocks: cool14:44
mvodidrocks: can't wait for it to be availalbe14:44
didrocksmvo: yeah, I saw your changes, it's way way better :)14:44
mvodidrocks: let me know once there is a debian/ dir and I will beta test14:44
didrocksgreat! ;)14:44
* didrocks hugs mvo for make it possible14:45
mvodidrocks: I want to upload the new s-c today or tomororw (probably today)14:45
* mvo hugs didrocks back for his patience (and endurance)14:45
didrocksthat will fit nicely so :)14:45
pittididrocks: sure, please do14:54
kenvandineseb128, the sqlite branch for gwibber is nearly complete :)15:12
kenvandineseb128, i am going to bump the test suite work items to beta, since it isn't features15:12
kenvandinegotta finish this telepathy-indicator service and the port to sqlite for gwibber15:13
kenvandineryan dropped some stuff in the merge, i got most of what he dropped ported back over last night15:13
kenvandineso looking pretty good15:13
kenvandineand no dep on desktopcouch :)15:13
mvokiwinote: hi, around?15:37
kiwinotehi mvo15:39
mvokiwinote: sorry that I neglected your branches, they are not forgoten :)15:39
kiwinotemvo: nice to hear. If you want me to merge them against trunk just let me know..15:40
mvokiwinote: a quick question, have you put any though in how to ask s-c to show (app,pkg) ? what do you thin kabout "software-center "Firefox Web Browser;firefox"" (assuming that is a app name?15:40
mvokiwinote: the merge is going to be a little bit painful as there was a bit of churn around logging and the viewswitcher/manager class15:41
mvokiwinote: but nothing fundamental changed fortunately :)15:41
kiwinotemvo: I though about that appname stuff, but at least as startup arguments I didn't see what benefits that would give us, as pkgnames are unique, but appnames aren't15:42
mvokiwinote: yeah, it always has to be "appname;pkgname" as a tuple, otherwise it will not work15:42
kiwinotemvo: do you have any usecases for using mixed appnames and pkgnames?15:42
mvokiwinote: the use-case is basicly to show the right icon when a pkgname contains multiple ones15:43
mvokiwinote: multiple apps15:43
kiwinotemvo: I think the icon stuff does work multiple apps, it's the screenshots which don't15:44
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kiwinotemvo: using sgt-puzzles as an example15:44
kiwinotemmvo: just going to find mpt now15:45
kiwinotebe back later15:45
mvovish: ff should be fixed with the next app-installl-data update15:49
vishmvo: neat! thanks.15:50
seb128kenvandine, hey15:51
seb128kenvandine, ok, nice, thank you for the update15:51
seb128kenvandine, delaying the test to beta does make sense15:51
kenvandineyeah... no new features15:52
mvothank you vish for bringing this up15:52
kenvandinebut it worries me... letting it slip usually means it doesn't get done :/15:52
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kenvandinebut getting gwibber with sqlite will make lots of folks happy15:52
seb128kenvandine, right15:57
seb128we were talking e15:57
seb128we were talking yesterday about how dropping couch from the default installation would be nice15:58
kenvandineyeah :)15:58
kenvandinealthough we need a migration path for existing users15:58
seb128is there any plan to use the gobject equivalent client on the desktop for other things?15:58
kenvandinewhich would require couch :/15:58
seb128I don't remember the name of it now15:58
kenvandineoh... midgard?15:59
seb128yes15:59
seb128do you know if there is any plan to switch to it?15:59
kenvandinenot yet15:59
seb128ok16:00
seb128I guess it will be a topic for UDS16:00
kenvandineso for maverick we will need to keep desktopcouch around, to migrate accounts16:00
kenvandineyeah... for sure16:00
kenvandinewe need to look at it very seriously16:00
kenvandineseb128, so next on my plate related to that is migrating accounts from couch to sqlite16:01
seb128ok16:01
kenvandinethen we can do a release and see what is broken :)16:01
seb128do you plan to work on that first or finish the empathy thing before?16:02
kenvandinei think first16:03
kenvandineanxiously want to get something in the wild so we can get bugs flowing in16:03
kenvandineand it is really close16:03
seb128ok16:03
seb128I've no strong opinion so whatever you think needs testing first will do16:04
kenvandineseb128, meeting today?16:11
seb128kenvandine, no16:12
kenvandineok16:12
seb128kenvandine, I will send a notice to the team, thanks16:12
kenvandineok, thx16:12
seb128kenvandine, rick and I are busy and we just got back from the sprint so there should not be lot to discuss16:13
kenvandineyeah, i figured16:13
kenvandinehey rickspencer316:15
rickspencer3hi kenvandine16:15
rickspencer3'sup my friend?16:15
rickspencer3what did I forget now?16:16
rickspencer3:)16:16
kenvandinehehe16:16
kenvandinenotta16:16
kenvandinejust saying howdy16:16
kenvandinethe sqlite branch of gwibber is about to land :)16:16
rickspencer3kenvandine, sweeeet16:17
kenvandinei've added back all the stuff ryan dropped in his merge16:17
kenvandinejust need to code up a migration path to import the accounts from couch16:18
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ltyrhi16:54
ltyris there a GUI tool for doing backups16:54
ltyror most of them are command line?16:54
ltyrbasically im looking for something that's GUI to do backups using RAR ....16:59
kiwinotemvo: I saw that you have resolved it with pkgname/appname. Looks good. I'll update the deb-files branch to use it.17:10
and471mvo, kiwinote, vish, hiya17:11
and471vish, I am progressing further on the shotwell one :)17:12
kiwinotehi and47117:12
and471vish, shall be glad when it is over :D17:12
vishand471: hey. neat ;)17:13
YokoZarmeeting now?17:30
seb128no meeting this week17:30
ltyrok any hints anyone?17:30
seb128GUADEC going on17:30
YokoZarseb128: ahh all right17:30
seb128ltyr, try #ubuntu17:31
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mvoand471: hey, nice to see you17:55
and471mvo, hi how have you been?17:55
mvoand471: good, good, I was traveling, but now I'm back and in action to merge $stuff :)17:59
and471mvo, hehe same, I have been in Belgium :)18:00
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Riddellcan sexy-python be removed?  it's gone in debian18:46
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pittiRiddell: seems so; only reverse recommends is exaile, no rdepends19:45
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pittigood night everyone20:51
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