[01:11] <TheMuso> RAOF: Hey Chris. How was your trip?
[01:11] <RAOF> TheMuso: Morning Luke.  Pretty much as can be expected.
[01:11] <TheMuso> Yeah same here. Have you recovered somewhat?
[01:11] <RAOF> Somewhat.
[01:12] <RAOF> I don't think this is going to be my most productive day ever, though :)
[01:12] <TheMuso> Yeah thats how yesterday was for me. :)
[01:13] <RAOF> There was a certain amount of excitement leaving Prague - the flight from Prague was delayed a bit, so there was some concern about making my connection at Heathrow.
[01:13] <TheMuso> Ouch.
[01:13] <RAOF> It turned out fine.
[01:13] <TheMuso> Yeah I gathered as much,
[01:14] <RAOF> While they recommend allocating 2 hours for transfer at Heathrow, turns out you can do it in ~30 minutes :)
[01:14] <TheMuso> wow that is quick.
[01:15] <RAOF> Your flights were pleasantly uneventful?
[01:15] <TheMuso> Yep
[01:15] <TheMuso> Still don't feel 100%, but a few early nights should fix that.
[01:16] <TheMuso> Plus some exercise.
[01:16] <RAOF> Yeah.
[01:23] <TheMuso> Nice to be back on the desktop again.
[06:12] <pitti> Good morning
[06:13] <TheMuso> Hey pitti.
[06:13] <micahg> good morning pitti
[08:27] <huats> morning
[10:33] <vish> seb128: hi , you at guadec? or .. back ?
[10:33] <TheMuso> vish: He is at guadec this week.
[10:34] <vish> TheMuso: ah .. cool  thanks :)
[10:34] <TheMuso> np
[10:36] <seb128> vish, GUADEC for the week
[10:36] <vish> seb128: have fun :)
[10:37] <seb128> thanks
[10:37] <seb128> vish, do you need anything?
[10:37] <chrisccoulson> hey seb128, having fun?
[10:37] <seb128> chrisccoulson, yes
[10:37] <seb128> though opening days are sort not so well organized
[10:38] <vish> seb128: nah , nothing urgent , just a few bugs wanted to ask you about. it can wait a week :)
[10:38] <seb128> but nice to talk to people there
[10:38] <seb128> vish, just ask
[10:38] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, xchat crashed :/
[10:39] <vish> seb128: well , there are a few bugs which are specific to Ubuntu changes and they have patches.. they need to be reviewed. we missed them last cycle too , was wondering if there is a way to make sure we dont miss it again
[10:40] <seb128> can you build a list of those and maybe tag them in some way?
[10:40] <seb128> we will review them then
[10:40] <vish> seb128: and about Bug 15495 , i believe we already carry your patch  , but it just needs a a little change in the titlebar
[10:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 15495 in file-roller (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) ""Archive Manager" doesn't mean anything if you don't know what an "archive" is (affects: 6) (dups: 1) (heat: 55)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15495
[10:41] <vish> seb128: sure , i have the list , its about 10-12 bugs .. hence wanted to wait :)
[11:16] <tseliot> vish: did you get any reply from other gtk+ devs on the right-click bug?
[11:17] <vish> tseliot: yeah , i dint know how to proceed further with that one either..  should we just get bratsche to commit or ..?
[11:18] <tseliot> vish: yes, whoever has the authority to do so
[11:20] <vish> bratsche: can you commit this one > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591258  the accessibility team has also reviewed it and given it a green light
[11:20] <ubot2> Gnome bug 591258 in gtk "Easy to accidentally select first option in popup menus" [Minor,Unconfirmed]
[11:21] <vish> bratsche: and ebassi has reviewed it too , but dint commit it yet..
[11:39] <bratsche> tseliot, vish: It looks fine to me I think.  I'm running a quick build first just to test it though.
[11:39] <bratsche> I'll comment on the bug# in a little bit.
[11:39] <vish> bratsche: thanks :)
[11:40] <tseliot> bratsche: fantastic. Thanks
[11:42] <bratsche> Anyone know where the source for clearlooks is by any chance?
[11:44] <bratsche> Ah, nevermind.. I found it in gtk-engines
[11:54] <bratsche> tseliot: I forgot that someone has my second monitor since I haven't been using it.. do you have a 2-monitor setup that can reproduce that rgba issue?
[11:55] <tseliot> bratsche: sure
[11:55] <bratsche> tseliot: What's the error? Is it causing a crash?
[11:56] <bratsche> tseliot: I updated my patch a few days ago to set an X error handler, and if it traps a BadMatch error then it tries to revert the colormap to the system one.  This seems to fix some things.
[11:58] <tseliot> bratsche: nice, it the new patch in maverick?
[11:58] <tseliot> s/it/is/
[11:58] <bratsche> Nope, I'm trying to find the list of bugs in Launchpad so I can do some testing first.
[11:59] <bratsche> Unfortunately, Launchpad is not the easiest thing to find things in. :)
[11:59] <tseliot> bratsche: ok, let me find the bug report
[11:59] <tseliot> I think there should be an entry in the changelog with my name
[11:59] <tseliot> that should contain the bug number
[12:00] <tseliot> in nautilus
[12:00] <bratsche> Okay cool.
[12:00] <tseliot> bratsche: LP: #508890
[12:01] <tseliot> bug #508890
[12:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 508890 in nautilus (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "Nautilus crashes when there are multiple XScreens (affects: 35) (dups: 9) (heat: 234)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/508890
[12:02] <tseliot> the details there should help you
[12:04] <bratsche> tseliot: Thanks!
[12:04] <tseliot> np, thanks for working on it
[12:09]  * tseliot reboots
[12:39] <chrisccoulson> hi mvo - do you know why apturl doesn't ship a apturl.js preferences file for firefox anymore?
[12:39] <chrisccoulson> it used to many releases ago, but seems to have been dropped at some point
[12:39] <mvo> chrisccoulson: no, that sounds like a mistake
[12:40] <mvo> chrisccoulson: I can dig into the bzr history
[12:40] <chrisccoulson> i was going to add it back again so that apturl registers as a protocol handler in firefox again
[12:40] <mvo> thanks, please do
[12:40] <chrisccoulson> mvo - no worries, i will just resurrect the old file
[12:40] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[12:40] <mvo> and just commit
[12:40] <mvo> thanks :)
[13:31] <vish> mvo: hi , for Bug 602705 and Bug 602820 , the maintainers dont seem to know why the wrong package/description is being pulled
[13:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 602705 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Description: Akonaditray (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/602705
[13:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 602820 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Wrong Firefox package is displayed by default in SC (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/602820
[13:32] <vish> kiwinote: too ^^
[13:32] <vish> hehe , everyone says mvo is python overlord who would know :D
[13:34] <mvo> vish: I check that, thanks
[13:34] <vish> mvo: thanks  :)
[13:45] <chrisccoulson> mvo - the issue with apturl was just that the file was being installed to the wrong place (due to a firefox change)
[13:45] <chrisccoulson> i can upload it now, but can't push to the bzr branch, do you just want to merge in my changes afterwards?
[13:47] <mvo> chrisccoulson: I'm fine with merging, but isn't that in ~ubuntu-core-dev?
[13:47] <chrisccoulson> mvo - it is, but i'm not a core-dev (but the package is in the ubuntu-desktop packageset)
[13:47] <chrisccoulson> which is a bit weird ;)
[13:50] <mvo> chrisccoulson: yeah, I can merge, thats fine
[13:53] <chrisccoulson> mvo - it's uploaded now, and i've pushed my changes to lp:~chrisccoulson/apturl/apturl.lp576944
[14:11] <mvo> chrisccoulson: commited a r97 - sounds like we need to put a bit of work into it to celebrate r100 soon ;)
[14:37] <seb128> pitti, hey there, could you get unity build score raised?
[14:37] <seb128> didrocks, ^
[14:39] <didrocks> mvo: thanks for your plugin viewmanager branch. It's working perfectly (with the fact to add to the model, which isn't a big deal for now)
[14:39] <didrocks> mvo: and the cache model is refreshed once integrated, work nicely :)
[14:39] <didrocks> it seems that clicking directly on install/remove doesn't work though, don't know why (only add all/remove all)
[14:42] <pitti> seb128: bumped
[14:42] <didrocks> pitti: seb128 thanks :)
[14:42] <didrocks> pitti: once built and published, I'll ask you for a respin of the iso if possible
[14:43] <didrocks> mvo: the viewmanager seems to switch the current view sometimes unexpectidely, not sure if that's because of the plugin or a general issue
[14:43] <seb128> pitti, thanks
[14:43] <mvo> didrocks: nice!
[14:43] <mvo> didrocks: I think that is a general issue
[14:43] <didrocks> mvo: thanks again :)
[14:44] <mvo> didrocks: I had the problem too
[14:44] <didrocks> ok
[14:44] <didrocks> well, I'll package oneconf now and get it into universe
[14:44] <mvo> didrocks: yeah, I'm very happy too :) I think it made the code a lot better, far from perfect, but a lot better
[14:44] <mvo> didrocks: cool
[14:44] <mvo> didrocks: can't wait for it to be availalbe
[14:44] <didrocks> mvo: yeah, I saw your changes, it's way way better :)
[14:44] <mvo> didrocks: let me know once there is a debian/ dir and I will beta test
[14:44] <didrocks> great! ;)
[14:45]  * didrocks hugs mvo for make it possible
[14:45] <mvo> didrocks: I want to upload the new s-c today or tomororw (probably today)
[14:45]  * mvo hugs didrocks back for his patience (and endurance)
[14:45] <didrocks> that will fit nicely so :)
[14:54] <pitti> didrocks: sure, please do
[15:12] <kenvandine> seb128, the sqlite branch for gwibber is nearly complete :)
[15:12] <kenvandine> seb128, i am going to bump the test suite work items to beta, since it isn't features
[15:13] <kenvandine> gotta finish this telepathy-indicator service and the port to sqlite for gwibber
[15:13] <kenvandine> ryan dropped some stuff in the merge, i got most of what he dropped ported back over last night
[15:13] <kenvandine> so looking pretty good
[15:13] <kenvandine> and no dep on desktopcouch :)
[15:37] <mvo> kiwinote: hi, around?
[15:39] <kiwinote> hi mvo
[15:39] <mvo> kiwinote: sorry that I neglected your branches, they are not forgoten :)
[15:40] <kiwinote> mvo: nice to hear. If you want me to merge them against trunk just let me know..
[15:40] <mvo> kiwinote: a quick question, have you put any though in how to ask s-c to show (app,pkg) ? what do you thin kabout "software-center "Firefox Web Browser;firefox"" (assuming that is a app name?
[15:41] <mvo> kiwinote: the merge is going to be a little bit painful as there was a bit of churn around logging and the viewswitcher/manager class
[15:41] <mvo> kiwinote: but nothing fundamental changed fortunately :)
[15:42] <kiwinote> mvo: I though about that appname stuff, but at least as startup arguments I didn't see what benefits that would give us, as pkgnames are unique, but appnames aren't
[15:42] <mvo> kiwinote: yeah, it always has to be "appname;pkgname" as a tuple, otherwise it will not work
[15:42] <kiwinote> mvo: do you have any usecases for using mixed appnames and pkgnames?
[15:43] <mvo> kiwinote: the use-case is basicly to show the right icon when a pkgname contains multiple ones
[15:43] <mvo> kiwinote: multiple apps
[15:44] <kiwinote> mvo: I think the icon stuff does work multiple apps, it's the screenshots which don't
[15:44] <kiwinote> mvo: using sgt-puzzles as an example
[15:45] <kiwinote> mmvo: just going to find mpt now
[15:45] <kiwinote> be back later
[15:49] <mvo> vish: ff should be fixed with the next app-installl-data update
[15:50] <vish> mvo: neat! thanks.
[15:51] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[15:51] <seb128> kenvandine, ok, nice, thank you for the update
[15:51] <seb128> kenvandine, delaying the test to beta does make sense
[15:52] <kenvandine> yeah... no new features
[15:52] <mvo> thank you vish for bringing this up
[15:52] <kenvandine> but it worries me... letting it slip usually means it doesn't get done :/
[15:52] <kenvandine> but getting gwibber with sqlite will make lots of folks happy
[15:57] <seb128> kenvandine, right
[15:57] <seb128> we were talking e
[15:58] <seb128> we were talking yesterday about how dropping couch from the default installation would be nice
[15:58] <kenvandine> yeah :)
[15:58] <kenvandine> although we need a migration path for existing users
[15:58] <seb128> is there any plan to use the gobject equivalent client on the desktop for other things?
[15:58] <kenvandine> which would require couch :/
[15:58] <seb128> I don't remember the name of it now
[15:59] <kenvandine> oh... midgard?
[15:59] <seb128> yes
[15:59] <seb128> do you know if there is any plan to switch to it?
[15:59] <kenvandine> not yet
[16:00] <seb128> ok
[16:00] <seb128> I guess it will be a topic for UDS
[16:00] <kenvandine> so for maverick we will need to keep desktopcouch around, to migrate accounts
[16:00] <kenvandine> yeah... for sure
[16:00] <kenvandine> we need to look at it very seriously
[16:01] <kenvandine> seb128, so next on my plate related to that is migrating accounts from couch to sqlite
[16:01] <seb128> ok
[16:01] <kenvandine> then we can do a release and see what is broken :)
[16:02] <seb128> do you plan to work on that first or finish the empathy thing before?
[16:03] <kenvandine> i think first
[16:03] <kenvandine> anxiously want to get something in the wild so we can get bugs flowing in
[16:03] <kenvandine> and it is really close
[16:03] <seb128> ok
[16:04] <seb128> I've no strong opinion so whatever you think needs testing first will do
[16:11] <kenvandine> seb128, meeting today?
[16:12] <seb128> kenvandine, no
[16:12] <kenvandine> ok
[16:12] <seb128> kenvandine, I will send a notice to the team, thanks
[16:12] <kenvandine> ok, thx
[16:13] <seb128> kenvandine, rick and I are busy and we just got back from the sprint so there should not be lot to discuss
[16:13] <kenvandine> yeah, i figured
[16:15] <kenvandine> hey rickspencer3
[16:15] <rickspencer3> hi kenvandine
[16:15] <rickspencer3> 'sup my friend?
[16:16] <rickspencer3> what did I forget now?
[16:16] <rickspencer3> :)
[16:16] <kenvandine> hehe
[16:16] <kenvandine> notta
[16:16] <kenvandine> just saying howdy
[16:16] <kenvandine> the sqlite branch of gwibber is about to land :)
[16:17] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, sweeeet
[16:17] <kenvandine> i've added back all the stuff ryan dropped in his merge
[16:18] <kenvandine> just need to code up a migration path to import the accounts from couch
[16:54] <ltyr> hi
[16:54] <ltyr> is there a GUI tool for doing backups
[16:54] <ltyr> or most of them are command line?
[16:59] <ltyr> basically im looking for something that's GUI to do backups using RAR ....
[17:10] <kiwinote> mvo: I saw that you have resolved it with pkgname/appname. Looks good. I'll update the deb-files branch to use it.
[17:11] <and471> mvo, kiwinote, vish, hiya
[17:12] <and471> vish, I am progressing further on the shotwell one :)
[17:12] <kiwinote> hi and471
[17:12] <and471> vish, shall be glad when it is over :D
[17:13] <vish> and471: hey. neat ;)
[17:30] <YokoZar> meeting now?
[17:30] <seb128> no meeting this week
[17:30] <ltyr> ok any hints anyone?
[17:30] <seb128> GUADEC going on
[17:30] <YokoZar> seb128: ahh all right
[17:31] <seb128> ltyr, try #ubuntu
[17:55] <mvo> and471: hey, nice to see you
[17:55] <and471> mvo, hi how have you been?
[17:59] <mvo> and471: good, good, I was traveling, but now I'm back and in action to merge $stuff :)
[18:00] <and471> mvo, hehe same, I have been in Belgium :)
[18:46] <Riddell> can sexy-python be removed?  it's gone in debian
[19:45] <pitti> Riddell: seems so; only reverse recommends is exaile, no rdepends
[20:51] <pitti> good night everyone