[00:07] <jamestait> Dang, Android SDK needs ia32-libs. :-/
[00:09] <beuno> these crazy folks on 64bit...
[00:09] <jamestait> Well, yeah.
[00:09] <jamestait> Especially given that I only have 2GB RAM.
[00:09] <beuno> doubly crazy
[00:09] <jamestait> But I wanted to do my bit to support the development of 64bit Linux.
[00:10] <jamestait> It's never going to get better if people don't use it.
[00:10] <jamestait> So I make my little sacrifice, that others may benefit. :)
[00:10]  * mkarnicki runs 64bit Lucid too o/
[00:11] <jamestait> It really hasn't caused me any major problems to be honest.
[00:11] <mkarnicki> apart from Flash racing my CPU and heating up the laptop. I'm happy with youtube running HTML5 now ;)
[00:12] <jamestait> That wasn't limited to 64bit for me though.  Flash always burned my CPU.
[00:12] <mkarnicki> oh..
[00:15] <jamestait> I'm watching the HTML5 thing with interest.  Specifically whether or not Web-M gets a look in.
[00:16] <beuno> mkarnicki, on you develop android on 64bit?
[00:17] <mkarnicki> beuno: yes, I develop on 64bit
[00:17] <beuno> jamestait, there you go
[00:17] <mkarnicki> beuno: Linux dojo 2.6.32-23-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 11 08:03:28 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:17] <beuno> should be possible
[00:17] <jamestait> Absolutely.
[00:18] <jamestait> It's just the kind of "Ugh" that I have to taint my shiny 64bit installation with that 32bit stuff. :-P
[00:18] <mkarnicki> :)
[00:18] <beuno> right
[00:18] <beuno> I feel like that about KDE
[00:19] <jamestait> I mean this is 2010. :D
[00:20] <beuno> ok, I'm off to walk the dog and have dinner with the inlaws
[00:20] <jamestait> Have fun.
[00:20] <mkarnicki> yea. I didn't like when installation of Yaquake (or whatever that fancy console was) took ~200 megs
[00:20] <beuno> talk to you guys soon!
[00:20] <jamestait> I'll be sleeping when you get back. ;)
[00:20] <mkarnicki> using tilda now
[00:20] <mkarnicki> bye beuno !
[00:20] <jamestait> (Well, I'd better be!)
[00:20] <mkarnicki> same here jamestait :) getting late here too.
[00:20] <mkarnicki> jamestait: you from europe?
[00:21] <mkarnicki> jamestait: UK?
[00:21] <jamestait> Yep, I'm in the UK
[00:21] <mkarnicki> jamestait: tell me you live near U1 HQ :D
[00:21] <mkarnicki> jamestait: they have some sort of HQ, right.. ? they do.
[00:21] <jamestait> Hahah!
[00:21] <jamestait> I'm about a 2-hour train journey from Millbank Tower.
[00:22] <mkarnicki> jamestait: few of them do actually meet in person every day
[00:22] <mkarnicki> ;DDD
[00:22]  * mkarnicki laughs :)
[00:23] <mkarnicki> jamestait: I'm happy for you to work for Canonical, may that be great pleasure and challenge at the same time :)
[00:23] <jamestait> I'm closer to @sil - I think we should propose a sprint in Birmingham. :)
[00:24] <mkarnicki> jamestait: he's my GSoC mentor this year :)
[00:24] <jamestait> He's a good chap.
[00:24] <mkarnicki> Indeed, he's cool.
[00:24] <jamestait> They all are, actually.
[00:24] <mkarnicki> Yes they are :D
[00:24] <CardinalFang> mkarnicki, if there's a HQ, it's probably in Argentina now.  We in Florida were close in population but we're losing one guy.
[00:24] <mkarnicki> (as far as I have come to know them :) )
[00:26] <mkarnicki> CardinalFang: so most of U1 developers are in Argentina now o_O ?
[00:26] <mkarnicki> CardinalFang: I know verterok is from Argentina :)
[00:26] <jamestait> I think I'm on a loser, being form the UK.  We're severely underrepresented.
[00:26] <mkarnicki> I could be first representative from Poland, you know ;D
[00:27] <mkarnicki> haha
[00:27] <jamestait> Anyway, the HQ is up there ^ "in the cloud"!
[00:27] <mkarnicki> jamestait: ;)
[00:29]  * mkarnicki finished implementing MIME type custom icons
[00:29] <CardinalFang> jamesh, I think there are two.  One in London.
[00:29] <CardinalFang> Eeek.
[00:29] <CardinalFang> jamestait, ^
[00:29] <jamestait> :D
[00:30] <jamestait> Me in Derby, @sil near Birmingham.  That's all I know of, there may be others.
[00:31] <mkarnicki> There must be someone on that 27th floor of Millbank Tower each day ;)
[00:32] <jamestait> I think that's mostly business support staff though?  And the design team! :)
[00:33] <mkarnicki> =)
[00:33] <jamestait> Bah, what do I know?  I'd just like to visit that office one day, apparently the view is phenomenal.
[00:34] <mkarnicki> indeed, that would be great :)
[00:34] <mkarnicki> I'll be going now. I hope to catch verterok/verterok answer to my mail tomorrow
[00:35] <mkarnicki> night jamestait, CardinalFang
[00:35] <mkarnicki> night beuno :)
[00:35] <jamestait> Night mkarnicki. :)
[00:37] <jamestait> Night all.
[00:38] <CardinalFang> Me too.  Aloha.
[05:13] <duanedesign> http://beuno.com.ar/archives/205
[05:13] <duanedesign> nice!^^^
[05:21] <Chipaca> statik: "trial django*" doesn't do anything interesting
[05:21] <Chipaca> statik: what am I missing?
[05:23] <Chipaca> statik: hm, probably PYTHONPATH=lib trial lib
[08:13] <mandel> morning!!
[09:07] <SuSEno> can I re add my ubuntu computer after I remove it?
[09:09] <SuSEno> ubuntuone preferences didn't pop up web browser
[09:11] <SuSEno> I have done the instructions from FAQ
[09:11] <SuSEno> and This is what I got when I type u1sdtool -c  command:
[09:11] <SuSEno> and This is what I got when I type u1sdtool -s  command:
[09:12] <SuSEno> State: AUTH_FAILED     connection: With User With Network     description: auth failed     is_connected: False     is_error: True     is_online: False     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH
[09:12] <SuSEno> AUTH_FAILED
[09:12] <SuSEno> honk
[11:19] <mandel> vds, ping
[11:20] <vds> mandel: pong
[11:20] <mandel> vds, how is it going?
[11:20] <vds> mandel: ok
[11:20] <vds> mandel: how're you doing?
[11:21] <mandel> vds, fine, I've moved to work on some UI to show the message for the self update etc...
[11:21] <mandel> vds, and the notification area in the systray
[11:22] <mandel_> vds, and we have a branch to merge, the problem is that I had to update spring and the and it looks bgger than it is :(
[11:24] <vds> mandel: np what branch?
[11:24] <mandel_> vds, this guy: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-windows-installer/integrate_spring/+merge/30962
[11:25] <mandel_> vds, just run the tests and create the installer
[11:25] <mandel_> vds, and see if it installs correctly
[11:25] <mandel_> vds, it provides the IPC between .Net langs using named pipes :D
[11:26] <vds> mandel: wow cool how did you do it?
[11:26] <vds> mandel: need to get some lunch now I'll review it as soon as I get back
[11:26] <mandel> vds, is just between the .Net langs, I need to do python tom
[11:26] <vds> ah ok
[11:26] <mandel> vds, first, some ui for self update
[11:26] <mandel> vds, step by step...
[11:57] <mandel> rye, ping
[11:59] <rye> mandel, pong
[12:01] <mandel> rye, two questions, which is the url we have to send user to ask for help
[12:01] <mandel> rye, and is there anything going wrong with the account page? I got an oops :(
[12:02] <rye> mandel, https://one.ubuntu.com/support/ is the best link since it can be altered then and account page w/ oops - what url?
[12:02] <mandel> rye, I just wanted to know the url to upgrade the accout ;)
[12:02] <mandel> rye, I got an error when going to /account , I did not get an oops number, but I got the nice robot
[12:02] <rye> mandel, ah, just a moment, this is a bit... mandel are you on edge?
[12:03] <mandel> rye, nope
[12:03] <mandel> rye, now it works, is there a reason?
[12:03] <rye> mandel, no, need to check what has happened, was that /account/ ?
[12:04] <mandel> rye, yes, /account
[12:04] <mandel> rye, do you want my user email?
[12:06] <rye> mandel, no, just a moment, trying to get the url
[12:07] <mandel> rye, ok, thnx
[12:09] <rye> mandel, for upgrade url you need to make a call to web api, which will return you a json document with upgrade_option
[12:10] <mandel> rye, mm ok, I so there is not way I can redirect a user to the webui for that
[12:10] <mandel> rye, I do not want to do that much work for the windows client right now...
[12:10] <rye> mandel, you can grab modified aquarius' script from http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/ubuntuone-scripts/ubuntuone-account-info ...
[12:11] <rye> mandel, or
[12:11] <rye> mandel, https://one.ubuntu.com/upgrade :)
[12:11] <mandel> rye, that last one is perfect, thx!!!
[12:12] <mandel> rye, I'll later will work with json etc... but for now, a url is nice enough
[12:12] <rye> mandel, this is what the preferences ui uses, actually
[12:12] <mandel> rye, good to know
[12:15] <rye> mandel, syncing the logs to see whether anything happened with /account
[12:15] <mandel> rye, ok, I'm going to lunch, I'll be back asap
[12:15]  * mandel goes to fule up
[12:16] <rye> mandel, me too :)
[12:16]  * mandel goes to fuel up...
[12:42] <rodrigo_> hola nessita, safe back at home?
[12:42] <nessita> good morning!
[12:43] <nessita> rodrigo_: sort of, I was taking 4 planes home, and the third landed in a different airport due to weather issues
[12:43] <nessita> rodrigo_: so the trip was painful long
[12:43] <rodrigo_> ugh
[12:43] <nessita> yeah :-)
[12:43] <nessita> how are you?
[12:44] <rodrigo_> fine, thanks :)
[12:46]  * nessita updates computer and reads emails and synch laptop with desktop
[12:46] <nessita> rodrigo_: is the stand up at 1300 UTC? is it on mumble or IRC?
[12:46] <rodrigo_> nessita, at 1300 UTC, if it's 1500 my time, yes :-), so, in 1:15 hours
[12:47] <nessita> yes
[12:47] <rodrigo_> and it's supposed to be on mumble, but yesterday Chipaca had problems so we did it on irc
[12:48] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:48] <rodrigo_> hi duanedesign
[12:52]  * rodrigo_ goes to have lunch to be around for the standup
[12:57] <mkarnicki> hi duanedesign
[13:10] <rye> mandel_, what's your ip?
[13:12] <rye> mandel_, i found the issue you got at /account/ page
[13:51] <duanedesign> rye: if you have a minute i would like to ask you about bug 607102. I think this is the important part of the logs, line 116, 120.
[13:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 607102 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "deleted files do not delete on ubuntuone web or other machines (affects: 1) (heat: 553)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607102
[13:51] <rye> duanedesign, looking
[13:56] <rye> duanedesign, line 116, 120 of what file within logs archive?
[13:57] <duanedesign> oh sorry
[13:57] <duanedesign> rye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/469798/
[13:57] <duanedesign> :P
[13:57] <rye> hmmm
[13:58] <rye> duanedesign, unlinking of the directory that is not empty?...
[14:07] <mkarnicki> aquarius: facundobatista: NOT_NETWORK means network is not availible or syncdaemon is not connected? (the latter, right?)
[14:07] <mkarnicki> argh.. let me check the svg digram :)
[14:09] <mkarnicki> aquarius: facundobatista: SYS_NET_CONNECTED shifts state to WITH_NETWORK. it is not equivalent to syncdaemon being connected, or is it?
[14:09] <aquarius> that's a facundobatista question, for sure :)
[14:09]  * mkarnicki disconnects to check the state :D
[14:09]  * mkarnicki brb
[14:09] <facundobatista> mkarnicki, where are you reading "WITH NETWORK"?
[14:10]  * mkarnicki is back
[14:10] <mkarnicki> facundobatista: just from states_connection.svg, capital letters are my invetion
[14:10] <mkarnicki> plus, I just looked at u1sdtool
[14:11] <facundobatista> mkarnicki, oh! ok, that in uppercase didn't ring any bell
[14:11] <mkarnicki> when I disconnected, it went NOT_NETWORK. now I'll check when I disconnect syncdaemon
[14:12] <mkarnicki> facundobatista: Not User With Network = so With Network only means network is availible. but both have to be 'with' for syncdaemon to "go on-line", right?
[14:12] <facundobatista> mkarnicki, WithNetwork means that you have network in your device, and could get connected if you want to
[14:12] <mkarnicki> facundobatista: great, thanks. I wanted to clarify that detail.
[14:13] <facundobatista> mkarnicki, yes, you need both WithUser (user wants to connect) and WithNetwork (you have a network available) to try to connect to the server
[14:13] <mkarnicki> facundobatista: o/ high five
[14:13] <facundobatista> mkarnicki, :)
[14:30]  * nessita reboots after kernel update
[14:33] <alecu> rodrigo_, would you mind re-reviewing: https://launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/split-nm/+merge/30727
[14:33] <jetsaredim> is there a way to sync a single file within a directory
[14:34] <rodrigo_> alecu, ok, doing it now
[14:35] <alecu> great, thanks!
[14:35] <rodrigo_> alecu, hmm, btw, I don't get mails for ubuntu-sso branches, do you?
[14:35] <rodrigo_> that's why I missed it
[14:36] <alecu> rodrigo_, yes, I'm getting those mails
[14:46]  * rye is waiting for verterok to ask about unlinking non-empty dir...
[14:47]  * mkarnicki waits together with rye :)
[14:48]  * mkarnicki gets back to code in the meantime
[14:48] <rodrigo_> alecu, your branch is approved now
[14:48] <alecu> rodrigo_, genial! thanks!
[15:13] <nessita> alecu and or rodrigo_, could you please review? https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu-sso-client/improve-gui/+merge/31046
[15:13] <rodrigo_> nessita, yes
[15:20] <rodrigo_> nessita, some comments on the merge proposal
[15:21] <nessita> thanks!
[15:26] <nessita> rodrigo_: replied and fixes pushed
[15:31] <mkarnicki> what are code reviews? you check your co-worker code before you merge into trunk?
[15:32] <jblount> mkarnicki: Yes, all the code we produce gets reviewed by other people on the team before it gets merged into trunk.
[15:33] <mkarnicki> jblount: I thought so :) Thanks for explanation.
[15:33] <duanedesign> launchpad merge proposals are nice for this
[15:33] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: aha!
[15:33] <mkarnicki> jblount: so you guys propose for merge on lp, and someone receives that code review request?
[15:34] <jblount> mkarnicki: We propose it for merge with a reviewer of 'ubuntuone-hackers' which sends out email notifications to everyone that is on that LP team.
[15:34] <mkarnicki> jblount: neat
[15:35] <jblount> mkarnicki: So then I can go to a page like this (you may not be able to see it) and see all the reviews I can do: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone/+activereviews
[15:35] <mkarnicki> jblount: I do see it :) nice!
[15:36] <mkarnicki> jblount: 1 person is enough to review and accept?
[15:36] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: mine arent as interesting but here is a merge proposal for stipple.
[15:36] <duanedesign> https://code.launchpad.net/~stipple-devs/stipple/stipple-empathy/+merge/30775
[15:37] <Cardinal`> mkarnicki, it depends on the reviewer and project.  In some places, the reviewer is more responsible than the orig programmer, when something bad is merged.
[15:37] <mkarnicki> neat, I like that duanedesign
[15:38] <mkarnicki> Cardinal`: right, that makes sense!
[15:38] <duanedesign> each member can 'vote' on the proposal
[15:38] <mkarnicki> I like how things work on lp
[15:38] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: launchpad is nice
[15:38] <duanedesign> especially if you have ever used Debian Bug Tracker
[15:39] <mkarnicki> not really. I may have filed a single bug there ;d
[15:39] <mkarnicki> But I'm getting hold of lp better every day.
[15:39] <Cardinal`> mkarnicki, we have a tool called "tarmac" that verifies the codified social conventions are met and then merges to the proposed destination.
[15:40] <mkarnicki> Cardinal`: ooh, nice. I saw 'tarmac' now and then here on the channel when u guys talked between each other.
[15:41] <Cardinal`> We use the verb "land" to mean something arrives in some location.  Launchpad, tarmac, to land, ... many space-travel themes, of course.
[15:41] <mkarnicki> Cardinal`: is tarmac used only by U1 teams or any Ubuntu devel team which want to use it?
[15:41] <duanedesign> :)
[15:42] <mkarnicki> Cardinal`: I like such terms, they indeed reflect what's going on :)
[15:42] <duanedesign> 5/7
[15:42] <duanedesign> oops
[15:42] <mkarnicki> like to 'land' something.
[15:43] <mkarnicki> I'm happy to receive so rich answers on that channel :)
[15:43] <Cardinal`> tarmac is used outside, and can be used by anyone.  Or subverted.  It's just a program that runs locally and does stuff you can do with other tools, but shouldn't do.
[15:43] <mkarnicki> aha
[15:44] <rodrigo_> nessita, approved
[15:44] <nessita> rodrigo_: thank you!
[15:51] <CardinalFang> kenvandine, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/desktopcouch/+bug/599745  #  Patch landed.
[15:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 599745 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Futon/Basic HTTP auth broken for couchdb-bin 0.11 (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[16:01] <rodrigo_> CardinalFang, can you please patch the server code to use dc revision also?
[16:02] <bt2bn> i seem to have bypassed autenticating my computer in initial startup and can't find how to it now
[16:02] <bt2bn> any thoughts?
[16:02] <CardinalFang> rodrigo_, yes.
[16:04] <bt2bn> sorry . found it in the faq .. duh
[16:08] <rodrigo_> CardinalFang, cool, thanks
[16:15] <kenvandine> CardinalFang, going to have a release soon?
[16:15] <CardinalFang> kenvandine, probably.
[16:15] <kenvandine> ok, thx
[16:15] <CardinalFang> kenvandine, not before next Monday.
[16:15] <kenvandine> ok
[16:17] <lontra> hi ... i want to get ubuntu one to stop syncing one of my folders in ~/Documents/ and i am running the following command: u1sdtool -q; u1sdtool --start; u1sdtool --delete-folder=4158f43b-f275-426a-a00d-023dea96948e; u1sdtool -c ... how long should that command take to run?
[16:17] <lontra> also will this make the folder on the web frontend of Ubuntu One go away? presently it says 'My Synced Folders' on the web frontend but there's no way to remove that ... which I would like to. Thanks!
[16:18] <CardinalFang> lontra, Hrm, I think it should take not much time at all to register that setting, but if it's in the middle of working on it, it may not abort the operation.
[16:18]  * rodrigo_ bbl
[16:20] <CardinalFang> lontra, I don't think it will make the folder disappear on the server.  That would surprise someone.  Imagine having more than one computer:  Stop synch on one.  Files disappear.  That's bad.
[16:21] <rye> lontra, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RomanYepishev/UbuntuOne/ClientControl#User%20Designated%20Folders
[16:21]  * CardinalFang defers to rye in all matters.
[16:22] <rye> lontra, CardinalFang, it will remove the UDF folder from the server, unsubscribing on the other hand does not remove the folder, but folder removal actually does remove the folder from the server side
[16:23] <lontra> rye: i want to unsubscribe that folder and remove it from the web interface
[16:24] <lontra> rye: so that will remove the folder from the server and subsequently the web interface?
[16:24] <rye> lontra, web interface shows precisely what is in your online storage
[16:25] <lontra> rye: and there's no way via that interface to presently remove a subscribed folder
[16:26] <rye> lontra, folder subscription means that the client will receive notification about files/folders/content changes within the subscribed folders. You can e.g. have Music UDF on your Desktop but unsubscribe from Music folder on your netbook. Web interface always shows everything.
[16:28] <lontra> hmm ... ok i think i understand
[16:29] <lontra> that delete folder command has been running now for 10 minutes ... is that OK?
[16:30] <rye> lontra, you can see whether request to remove the folder is actually in the queue - open another terminal and type u1sdtool --waiting-meta, you should see DeleteVolume there
[16:31] <lontra> i get a traceback
[16:31] <lontra> http://pastebin.ca/1909371
[16:33] <rye> lontra, argh, you have accented characters in filenames - this is a bug in the client...
[16:34] <lontra> i shouldn't
[16:34] <rye> lontra, the delete folder command only puts a DeleteVolume work item into the queue. In case there is a lot to upload/download this can take a while
[16:35] <lontra> rye: so this could take a long time? the folder is a few GBs
[16:35] <lontra> in fact it's 9 GBs
[16:37] <rye> lontra, were all files uploaded before you decided to cancel the upload?
[16:37] <lontra> also my language is ENGLISH_US so i don't have any accented characters (unless you're referring to _ or -)
[16:37] <rye> and delete the folder?
[16:38] <lontra> rye: no
[16:38] <lontra> rye: there was nothing in the folders that got uploaded according to the server
[16:38] <rye> lontra, ok, i guess you will then want to user this way - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RomanYepishev/UbuntuOne/ClientControl#Accidentally%20added%20an%20UDF,%20how%20to%20remove%20it%20fast
[16:39] <rye> this is quick and dirty but it works
[16:39] <rye> well, not really that quick
[16:51] <nessita> can I please have a second review for https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu-sso-client/improve-gui/+merge/31046 ?
[16:53] <nessita> alecu: could you please? ^
[16:55] <alecu> nessita, yes, but a bit later. There's been a music store problem and I was asked to look into it.
[16:55] <nessita> alecu: oh right, that's fine, I'll chase someone else
[16:56] <nessita> Chipaca: would you have some sparse time for a review?
[16:56] <nessita> spare*
[17:05] <lontra> deletefolder still working :p
[17:33] <lontra> ok deletefolder has been running now for 1 hour ... this can't be normal ... what should i do?
[17:33] <Chipaca> nessita: I would
[17:33] <Chipaca> nessita: of what?
[17:34] <Chipaca> lontra: what does u1sdtool -s say?
[17:34] <lontra> http://pastebin.ca/1909441
[17:35] <Chipaca> lontra: you are not connected to ubuntu one. Tell it to connect :)
[17:35] <Chipaca> lontra: one way: u1sdtool -c
[17:36] <nessita> Chipaca: https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu-sso-client/improve-gui/+merge/31046
[17:37] <lontra> Chipaca: and then what?
[17:37] <lontra> oh it finished
[17:37] <Chipaca> :)
[17:38] <lontra> thanks
[17:38] <Chipaca> lontra: ubuntuone-preferences was the more user-friendly way to connect
[17:38] <lontra> when will the nautilus icons disappear that show syncing?
[17:38] <lontra> reboot?
[17:39] <Chipaca> lontra: there are different emblems, one of them actually means "sync"
[17:39] <Chipaca> lontra: I'm never sure which is which :(
[17:39] <Chipaca> lontra: so, they are going away :)
[17:39] <Chipaca> lontra: i.e. synced would have no emblem
[17:39] <lontra> ok thanks
[17:39] <Chipaca> lontra: but right now if it's a couple of arrows and no exclamation mark, I think that means synced
[17:39] <Chipaca> rodrigo_ has better memory than I wrt that
[17:40] <lontra> thanks
[17:40] <Chipaca> nessita: reviewing. This will take a while.
[17:40] <lontra> i hope all the changes with ubuntu one make there way back to lucid as i like to track the LTS :)
[17:41] <Chipaca> lontra: yes, they will
[17:41] <lontra> yay! thanks again ... hopefully i won't be back later ;)
[17:41] <Chipaca> lontra: it'll take us a while, but I think for the end-of-year point release
[17:53] <Chipaca> nessita: question re your use of the builder object
[17:54] <Chipaca> nessita: when I've used those, I've just introspected the names and added them as attributes; why are you building this huge, hard to maintain list of names? I assume there is a good reason, so it's an honest question :)
[17:54] <Chipaca> or maybe a honest question, i never get that one right
[17:58] <Chipaca> nessita: bonk
[18:12] <nessita> Chipaca: I was having lunch, sorry. I had no idea about the introspection thingy, I'd be happy to hear how
[18:14] <nessita> Chipaca: and I agree that the huge list doesn't scale
[18:19] <dobey> Chipaca: silent 'h' would denote the pronouncing of a vowel sound, and 'an' would be correct
[18:23] <Chipaca> nessita: I'll throw code at you when I get to the review, after I'm done with this 1:1
[18:23] <nessita> Chipaca: perfect
[18:27] <nessita> rodrigo_: ping
[18:31] <Chipaca> nessita: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ytd/trunk/annotate/head:/ytd.py#L82
[18:33] <nessita> Chipaca: josha
[18:35] <Chipaca> nessita: hold on
[18:35] <Chipaca> nessita: um, that code is old, give me a sec
[18:36]  * Chipaca pushes
[18:36] <Chipaca> nessita: refresh the page :)
[18:36] <nessita> ack
[18:43] <Chipaca> nessita: that does, of course, mean you have to be careful when naming things. What else is new.
[18:43] <Chipaca> nessita: should I expect a patch to this branch?
[18:43] <Chipaca> nessita: or is that "for the future" work?
[18:44] <nessita> Chipaca: can I fix this in the incoming branch? I'll ask you review for this new one as well
[18:44] <Chipaca> nessita: sure. I was asking to know whether to wait or not :)
[18:44] <nessita> please don't
[18:46] <Chipaca> nessita: if you avoid using '-' in names, you can get rid of the code to do that replace, and rejoice at cleaner code :)
[18:47] <Chipaca> nessita: should running
[18:47] <Chipaca> PYTHONPATH=. bin/ubuntu-sso-login
[18:47] <Chipaca> "just work"?
[18:47] <nessita> Chipaca: yes. Thing is that you'll be able to see just the first screen
[18:48] <nessita> Chipaca: the incoming branch will let you go thru the screens with signals, until I get the dbus backend done
[18:48] <Chipaca> nessita: I'm not seeing anything :(
[18:48] <nessita> Chipaca: no way
[18:48] <Chipaca> nessita: nara re nara
[18:48] <nessita> Chipaca: are you "standing" in the right place?
[18:48] <nessita> Chipaca: wait!
[18:48] <nessita> no, is PYTHONPATH=. bin/ubuntu-sso-login-gui
[18:49] <Chipaca> hehehe
[18:49] <Chipaca> hee hee
[18:49] <Chipaca> mucho betero!
[18:50] <Chipaca> nessita: can I ask why there is a mix of glade and manual building?
[18:51] <nessita> Chipaca: the manual building is used for 2 things that are not available in glade: the "LabeledEntry" (custom) and the spinner
[18:51] <nessita> Chipaca: the spinner will be in glade 3.7
[18:51] <Chipaca> nessita: LabeledEntry is the entry with a label that goes away?
[18:51] <Chipaca> nessita: we need that one for the contact picker so bad
[18:52] <Chipaca> nessita: should the captcha thing work/
[18:52] <Chipaca> ?
[18:52] <nessita> Chipaca: re the LabeledEntry: I know, this is part of the thing we talked in the meeting while in Prague, it should be migrated to "ido" soon, by Evan
[18:53] <Chipaca> ok
[18:53] <nessita> Chipaca: re: the captcha, it will work when the dbus service notifies of the captcha being ready to use
[18:53] <Chipaca> nessita: does this do any kind of client-side validation?
[18:53] <nessita> Chipaca: yes, it does all of the validation. In the next branch you'll be able to test it using signals (to simulate backend events)
[18:54] <Chipaca> nessita: how can I see a validation failure?
[18:55] <nessita> Chipaca: in the gui.py file, add to the end of the __init__ file: self.on_captcha_generated(None)
[18:55] <nessita> Chipaca: and re run
[18:55] <nessita> and play with the fields
[18:57] <nessita> Chipaca: does it work?
[18:58] <Chipaca> AttributeError: 'UserRegistrationGUI' object has no attribute '_captcha_filename'
[18:58] <Chipaca> :(
[18:58] <nessita> Chipaca: ah, just move that outside the if backed is not None
[18:59] <nessita> that would be moving it from line 117 to 114 (+-1)
[18:59] <Chipaca> nessita: I just commented out that line and it seems to work. What should I see as validation?
[19:00] <nessita> Chipaca: in that branch, a warning dialog when clicking "Next"
[19:00] <Chipaca> ah
[19:00] <nessita> Chipaca: in the incoming branch, the entries will show the warning message within the same window
[19:00] <Chipaca> nessita: ok, I'll wait for the next branch :)
[19:01] <nessita> ok
[19:03] <Chipaca> nessita: +1'ed
[19:03] <nessita> awesome!
[19:04] <Chipaca> no, *you* are :)
[19:04] <nessita> :-)
[20:55] <Amgine> So, *where* is the "add this computer" button?
[21:16] <Chipaca> Amgine: it's right there!
[21:17] <Chipaca> Amgine: just kidding, what are you trying to do?
[21:17] <Amgine> Add this machine to my Ubuntuone account, so I can sync files.
[21:18] <dobey> Chipaca: can you review my man pages branch?
[21:18] <Chipaca> dobey: again?
[21:18] <dobey> Chipaca: can you approve it at least? :)
[21:18] <Chipaca> Amgine: ok. What have you done so far?
[21:19] <Chipaca> dobey: done that, already
[21:19] <Chipaca> dobey: probably 23 seconds before you asked :)
[21:20] <Amgine> Followed instructions at https://one.ubuntu.com/support/installation/
[21:20] <Amgine> No button.
[21:20] <dobey> oh
[21:20] <Amgine> Have also tried the command line instructions: u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login; u1sdtool -c
[21:21] <Chipaca> Amgine: ok
[21:21] <Chipaca> Amgine: let's start with simpler stuff. In a terminal, do: xdg-open http://one.ubuntu.com
[21:21] <Chipaca> Amgine: report back what happens
[21:25] <Chipaca> hmmm
[21:25] <Chipaca> so, xdg-open causes netsplit
[21:25] <Chipaca> that's good to know
[21:28] <dobey> are you trying to run nightlies?
[21:31] <dobey> what does "ls -l /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-login" show?
[21:32] <Amgine> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8903 2010-06-21 03:06 /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-login
[21:34] <dobey> ok, you seem to have a very weird problem, and i am not sure exactly what it is. you're using Ubuntu yes? not kubuntu xubuntu or someotherbuntu?
 Plain vanilla ubuntu.
[21:36] <dobey> very weird then, it should work. have you tried logging out, and back in again? if you could, i would be very interested to know if you still get the same error (and if so, if you get it after a reboot)
[21:36] <Amgine> Will try that now. rebooting.
[21:40] <Amgine_> Okay, I just had an idea what may be doing it, which I'll test in a minute.
[21:40] <dobey> ok
[21:42] <Amgine_> Mmm, no. Or at least, not from the initial screen.
[21:46] <dobey> so that error is gone now? or it's still just not working?
[21:46] <Amgine> Using the Ubuntu One Preferences, not working. Checking the ulsd one.
[21:48] <Amgine> Looks like I'm going to get a different error on the ulsdtool - it's still waiting on the ubuntone-login.
[21:49] <dobey> do you use firefox, chrome, or what?
[21:49] <Amgine> FF, and seamonkey.
[21:50] <nessita> Chipaca: ping
[21:50] <dobey> do you already have it running? on another workspace perhaps?
[21:50] <Amgine> No.
[21:51] <Amgine> Mmm, wait a second, yes I did have it running.
[21:51] <dobey> is there a new tab in it?
[21:51] <Amgine> Yes
[21:52] <Amgine> New window, actually, not a new tab.
[21:52] <dobey> ok, and the "Add this computer" button is there? :)
[21:52] <Amgine> Is not there.
[21:53] <dobey> was it an ubuntu one page
[21:53] <dobey> ?
[21:53] <Amgine> Yes.
[21:53] <Amgine> https://one.ubuntu.com/account/
[21:53] <dobey> oh you clicked the link inside preferences i guess
[21:54] <dobey> to go to the "My account" page
[21:54] <Amgine> Yes.
[21:54] <dobey> ok, close the preferences window
[21:54] <dobey> and try the u1sdtool method again please
[21:56] <Amgine> Okay, moment. <^C>
[22:01] <Amgine> It's stuck after the ubuntuone-login: no process found, and will hang there until it throws an error.
[22:02] <dobey> so it is giving that same error still?
[22:05] <Amgine> Not yet, but likely it will. That's the error it gives after it hangs for about 10 minutes.
[22:06] <Amgine> <blames the Mac hardware>
[22:06] <dobey> the "ubuntuone-login: process not found" is an error
[22:07] <dobey> hrmm
[22:08] <dobey> what happens when you run "xdg-open http://one.ubuntu.com/" ?
[22:09] <walderrama> helo? .. need help downloading from rythmbox a purchased album
[22:11] <Amgine> moment dobey
[22:11] <walderrama> in the morning  I purchased an album, got the mail confirmation, then it appeared in my ubuntuone web interface, but in rythmbox it status never changed from queued
[22:12] <Amgine> Loads the dashboard in FF, dobey
[22:12] <walderrama> now it's shown as "transfering to ubuntu one storage"
[22:13] <walderrama> with no avance at all
[22:13] <walderrama> *advance
[22:14] <dobey> Amgine: ok, humpf. it seems like for some reason that dbus can't find the ubuntuone-login process then i guess. which is quite odd
[22:14] <dobey> Amgine: what version of ubuntuone-client-gnome do you have installed?
[22:15] <dobey> walderrama: if you go to "Music" in rhythmbox, does the album in question appear if you search for it there?
[22:15] <walderrama> nop..
[22:15] <walderrama> neither in Music , or Purchased Music
[22:17] <Amgine> Moment
[22:17] <dobey> walderrama: do the mp3 files appear anywhere under $HOME/.ubuntuone on your filesystem?
[22:18] <walderrama> nop... they haven't come yet to my machine.. and at least 4 hours have passed
[22:18] <Amgine> dobey: 1.2.2-0ubuntu2
[22:18] <walderrama> what kind of traffic use rythmbox to get the files?
[22:19] <walderrama> does it use http, ftp?... i mean maybe in this network it's filtered
[22:24] <dubno> hello,  just signed into one.ubuntu.com. added another (2) email addresses to be associated with the account. TO my dismay it appears that I have no data stored in my account when just earlier today I had quite a bit. Any ideas?
[22:31] <dobey> Amgine: hrmm. so i guess you have all the updates installed then
[22:32] <dobey> Amgine: i'm sorry i can't be more help, but i really have no idea at this point, what could specifically be causing that :(
 I'm annoyed, but I can deal with it. I won't get any benefit from Ubuntuone, but I can retrieve the stuff I stored there previously.
[22:32] <dobey> walderrama: the files are stored in ubuntu one, and are downloaded to your machine via the ubuntuone-syncdaemon, which uses ubuntuone-storage-protocol
[22:33] <Amgine> Thank you very much, dobey, for taking the time to troubleshoot this with me.
[22:33] <dubno> sorry to repeat - hello,  just signed into one.ubuntu.com. added another (2) email addresses to be associated with the account. TO my dismay it appears that I have no data stored in my account when just earlier today I had quite a bit. Any ideas?
[22:33] <dobey> Amgine: sorry it's not working right for you. your welcome
[22:34] <dobey> and now i must go
[22:36] <walderrama> can I check thr progress somehow?
[23:45] <duanedesign> dubno:
[23:47] <dubno> hi
[23:47] <duanedesign> walderrama: what do you get when you run u1sdtool -s
[23:47] <duanedesign> dubno: hello
[23:48] <duanedesign> dubno: your files are missing from http://one.ubuntu.com/files
[23:48] <walderrama> State: QUEUE_MANAGER
[23:48] <walderrama>     connection: With User With Network
[23:48] <walderrama>     description: processing queues
[23:48] <walderrama>     is_connected: True
[23:48] <walderrama>     is_error: False
[23:48] <walderrama>     is_online: True
[23:48] <walderrama>     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH
[23:48] <dubno> any ideas? I had 300 notes and contact plus a few files - all sync'd across several machines... logged in this evening to web interface and all gone
[23:50] <dubno> i have now resync'd tomboy notes and they appear in one.ubuntu - contacts are not syncing from evolution though ? less worried about get stuff back but more on where it went in the first place
[23:53] <duanedesign> ok
[23:53] <duanedesign> walderrama: looks like yours is working on something
[23:54] <duanedesign> walderrama: can you try:  u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l
[23:54] <duanedesign> walderrama: can you try:  u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l
[23:54] <duanedesign> dubno: notes and files
[23:54] <walderrama> Traceback (most recent call last):
[23:54] <walderrama> Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.UnicodeEncodeError: Traceback (most recent call last):
[23:54] <walderrama>   File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/dbus/service.py", line 702, in _message_cb
[23:54] <walderrama>     retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
[23:54] <walderrama>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/dbus_interface.py", line 204, in waiting_metadata
[23:54] <walderrama>     waiting_metadata.append(str(cmd))
[23:54] <walderrama>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/action_queue.py", line 1442, in __str__
[23:54] <duanedesign> dubno: 0.o
[23:54] <walderrama>     for attr in str_attrs]
[23:54] <walderrama> UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xf3' in position 7: ordinal not in range(128)
[23:55] <duanedesign> walderrama: ok that is a known bug, for the waiting metadata...
[23:55] <walderrama> duanedesign then?
[23:55] <duanedesign> walderrama: anything from u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l
[23:55] <walderrama> duanedesign: just sit to wait ans see what happends?
[23:56] <walderrama> 15014
[23:56] <duanedesign> dubno: contact sync is currently not working
[23:57] <duanedesign> walderrama: wow. ok you have 15,014 items waiting to sync
[23:57] <duanedesign> walderrama: that is going to take awhile
[23:58] <walderrama> duanedesign, holy crapt... this is gona take looong time
[23:58] <duanedesign> rye: is there any workaround for the waiting-metadata UnicodeEncodeError
[23:58] <walderrama> how can I dump the queue?
[23:58] <walderrama> duanedesign, apparently made a mistake some days ago, and sent a lot of files
[23:58] <duanedesign> walderrama: if you can leave it running it should be done by in the morning
[23:59] <rye> duanedesign, unfortunately no, this requires patching the sources
[23:59] <duanedesign> rye: ok
[23:59] <duanedesign> walderrama: once it is done with the metadata you can use that --waiting-content command to track the progress