[00:19] <kelelsai_> if an item is upstream but marked as triage does that mean the upstream team has to fix it or is that something I can fix
[02:07] <RAOF> Oh, wow.  You're not wrong when you said that unity doesn't like radeon!
[02:11] <gambs> Flashing?
[02:14] <RAOF> No.
[02:15] <RAOF> Corrupt textures and distorted background colours
[02:19] <gambs> Oh. I have a radeon card and it flashes to white continually. Can't get it to work at all. In Gnome-shell, the icon colors invert on me.
[02:20] <RAOF> Flashing to white continually probably means that it's crashing.
[02:20] <RAOF> Hm.  Actually… why isn't _this_ crashing.  I found a nice, dependable DRI2 crash at the sprint.
[02:21] <gambs> Is there anything I can do about it crashing? (I assumed that was the problem) Should I just wait?
[02:23] <RAOF> You could file a bug, or you could wander into #ubuntu-x and pastebin logs and such.
[02:24] <RAOF> And, by “logs” I probably mean “run unity under gdb and grab a backtrace”
[02:25] <gambs> Alright, thanks.
[02:25] <RAOF> Mmm, shaders.  Everyone's favourite way to replace a blue sunset with an orangy-brown mess.
[02:26] <gambs> As soon as I Google how to do that, will do ;)
[04:30] <RAOF> Heh.  gnome-shell doesn't like radeon either.
[10:38] <davidbarth> klattimer: hey karl, if you run out of bugs on n-osd be sure to ping me (a bit in advance); let me know
[10:39] <klattimer> yeah, I'm just clearing down the already fixed ones mostly
[10:39] <klattimer> there's cruft that's collected
[10:39] <klattimer> one of the bugs I have no way of testing the fix
[10:39] <klattimer> as I don't have a separate monitor
[10:40] <klattimer> however, reports are that it works, and the code looks nice and clean
[10:40] <klattimer> I'd like to try and get this branch merged into trunk
[10:41] <klattimer> davidbarth: also, feel free to increase the severity of something, if you want to introduce it to my field of view
[10:41] <klattimer> atm I only 'see' high and medium
[10:41] <klattimer> ;)
[10:43] <davidbarth> klattimer: high and meds are fine ;)
[10:44] <klattimer> well, increase the priority if you want me to look at something low ;)
[10:57] <jcastro> klattimer: when I get back I can help test multimonitor stuff
[10:57] <klattimer> cool
[10:57] <klattimer> I've asked for help on the bug
[10:57] <klattimer> someone from the community who's on the bug might help in the mean time
[13:04] <davidbarth> Cimi: hi Andrea
[13:05] <davidbarth> Cimi: bratsche is not here yet, but how is it going for the dbusmenu item tweaks? need help to find your way in the code?
[13:07] <davidbarth> klattimer: btw, a quick heads up on upcoming app. indicator tasks
[13:07] <klattimer> ok cool
[13:07] <davidbarth> klattimer: the next port should be the keyboard layout indicator in gsd
[13:08] <klattimer> gsd?
[13:08] <davidbarth> as said earlier this week (i think? ;) we're going for 2 indicators in Maverick, mostly porting them to being app. indicators
[13:09] <klattimer> yeah i get this
[13:09] <klattimer> what is gsd though?
[13:09] <davidbarth> and M+1 they should become just one, but that still rquires some design work because of the complexity of the domain
[13:09] <klattimer> sorry the acronym escapes me
[13:09] <davidbarth> gnome-settings-daemon
[13:09] <klattimer> ok
[13:09] <davidbarth> too long to type, sorry
[13:09] <klattimer> :)
[13:09] <davidbarth> the issue with that indicator is that it uses either dynamic icons, which can't be stylred (so: no good)
[13:10] <davidbarth> or would have to use a label on the panel
[13:10] <davidbarth> this has been discussed recently on the dbusmenu list with agateau, ted and other kde folks
[13:10] <klattimer> davidbarth: this sounds very much like the ibus problem
[13:10] <klattimer> ibus required support for absolute paths
[13:10] <davidbarth> hmm, ah, does it?
[13:10] <klattimer> could we use that? or is it critical that it gets styled
[13:11] <davidbarth> it is important that it gets styled
[13:11] <klattimer> yeah, the icons are installed in the various folders for the various languages
[13:11] <klattimer> which is difficult to fix
[13:11] <davidbarth> what appears on the panel should be consistent, properly themed
[13:11] <klattimer> that could be fixed in that each of the icons is linked into the hicolor theme but that would be time consuming and require some kind of non-clashing naming so poses many other problems
[13:11] <davidbarth> symbolic icons can help fix a part of that
[13:12] <davidbarth> agateau and ted will be back next week to finalize either of the approaches with you
[13:12] <klattimer> well, I suppose ibus is a special case which is very difficult to theme appropriately
[13:12] <klattimer> if gsd requires something themable I'm sure we can work out something more appropriate for this case
[13:13] <davidbarth> in the meantime, can you prepare the patchset / branch to get the gsd-keyborad indicator into an app. indicator one?
[13:13] <klattimer> I mean, really panel applets should have themable icons
[13:13] <klattimer> is this a straight port from notification area?
[13:13] <klattimer> and what language if you know?
[13:13] <davidbarth> klattimer: should be, i took a quick look at the code
[14:02] <Cimi> davidbarth: is that assigned to me?
[14:03] <Cimi> I am working on the theme now
[14:12] <meebey> hi, are the debian package maintainers also on this channel?
[14:14] <om26er> #ubuntu-motu might be a better place to ask
[14:19] <bratsche> Anyone here having multiple monitors?
[14:47] <Cimi> bratsche: what do you want me to add in murrine?
[14:49] <Cimi> if you tell me the right name of the style property I could patch murrine
[14:49] <Cimi> davidbarth: ping
[14:53] <davidbarth> Cimi: sorry, was out for a bit
[14:53] <davidbarth> Cimi: yes, I need you help to get the dbusmenu layout change in sync with the other you did on the messaging menu
[14:54] <davidbarth> Cimi: you should look into: dbusmenu/libdbusmenu-gtk
[14:55] <davidbarth> Cimi: genericmenuitem.c i think
[14:55] <davidbarth> Cimi: but there may be parts to review also in menuitem.c
[14:55] <davidbarth> Cimi: not sure
[15:08] <Cimi> davidbarth: ok I have patched, now I'm testing it
[15:08] <davidbarth> Cimi: awesome! thanks
[15:11] <Cimi> quite slow to compile on my netbook..
[15:28] <Cimi> bratsche: could you fix dbusmenu? I have an idea why it is not working but it's too hard for me to get it sorted quickly