[00:09] Finally started testing 10.10 in a VBox and was happy that it installed without a hitch. [00:12] uRock: theres nothing to be happy aobut. Using maverick on my machine for a month without problems.. [00:13] DrHalan, that takes the fun out of it [00:13] out of what? [00:13] testing [00:13] alright :D [00:14] * uRock Linkes being sarcastic =) [00:14] Likes [00:16] do you know if there will be gtk3 in maverick [00:16] it doesn't seem like.. [00:16] no clue [00:17] I haven't looked into much of anything yet [00:17] i don't want to wait another rleease for it.. [00:18] I mostly want to see the ayatana stuff for Netbooks will look [00:19] you men indicator-appmenu? [00:19] or the new network-indicator? [00:19] all of the above [00:20] the stuff that caused them to put the buttons on the left [00:20] oh the windicators? [00:20] i don't know if that is really worked on [00:20] http://twitpic.com/27v3gq [00:20] thats how my desktop looks like [00:20] yup, those [00:21] notice i don't have a legacy statusmenu anymore [00:21] and the menu of my apps has moved in the upper panel similiar to OSX [00:21] looks good [00:23] but i don't know if the windicators really will make it into maverick as i don't see any pacakges for them yet [00:24] I hope so, but I won't be too broken hearted. [00:26] There'll be no GTK3 in maverick [00:26] Because it'd require to ship GTK2 AND GTK3 in a single CD, as they can't do such fast transition.. [00:27] -.- [00:28] i thought its normal that the releases after the LTS are a little broken [00:30] well, a little broken and unshippable are two different things [00:31] well there is a gnome 3.0 release so all core apps should be compatible with gtk3 [00:31] but we ship much more then only core apps on cd [00:31] DrHalan, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-gnome [00:32] mh [00:32] back when kde 4.0 came out there was a "4.0 remix" beside the normal Kubuntu release [00:33] will something like this happen? [00:42] Say, how the heck do I point a vnc client at the SECOND head? [00:42] I have :0.0 and :0.1, and can only seem to connect to :0.0. === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [01:03] nite guys [01:16] anyone happen to know about a low latency kernel? [01:36] ChogyDan: what for? [01:37] DrHalan: well, it was referenced to me, but I don't know where to find it [01:39] basically, I want to look at how it is packaged [01:58] ChogyDan, the low latency kernel is called -rt, for realtime [01:58] ah, ok [01:59] #ubuntu-kernel has the guys who package it if you want to ask them directly [01:59] the kernel team in other words [02:00] yeah, I should ask them, thanks === luis_lopez is now known as ` === ` is now known as luis_lopez [04:15] what's the version of freetype that will ship with 10.10? [04:18] johnjohn101, if you know the actual freetype package name, in this channel use "!info $PACKAGENAME" [04:19] !info freetype [04:19] Package freetype does not exist in maverick [04:20] !info mono [04:20] Package mono does not exist in maverick [04:21] johnjohn101, the reason i said the whole "if you know" part is cause i'd already tried "apt-cache policy freetype" and knew it didn't exist, sorry that wasn't clear. [04:23] don't worry, I'll download alpha 3 in a few days === Random833 is now known as Random832 [12:34] huh? they moved the 'Reported by ...' line to the left on launchpad o.O (edge) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:34] and the flames look kind of lost on that layout.. [12:34] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtm/+bug/573785 for example [12:34] Launchpad bug 573785 in qtm (Ubuntu) "QTM crashes when a window is launched" [High,Fix released] [12:37] meh, wrong # === mrsun is now known as MrSunshine [13:35] does anyone notice that Ubuntu software center starts downloading when you choose a package instead of starting when you are finished? [13:52] gnomefreak: afaik that's intended, once you click on install it starts installing, so it already does something while you're looking at other packages [13:53] it makes it hard to keep up with what you already installed, doing alot of packages [14:26] Hello! Am I going to have any problems if I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop keeping the partition of the Home folder of 10.04 untouched? [14:33] Zeus__: Probably not, but maybe. [14:33] Zeus__: Actually, let me rephrase that. You'll only potentially have issues if you are dual booting between 10.04 and 10.10 with a shared .home [14:33] er /home [14:34] Pici, thank you :) [14:38] alot of packages are haveing depends issues atm [16:22] Hello. Are catalyst drivers working on 10.10? [16:56] hey guys.. i'm a bit stuck: pidgin: Depends: pidgin-data (< 1:2.7.1-z) but 1:2.7.2-1ubuntu1 is to be installed. <- any thoughts on that? [16:57] Should I just wait or can i somehow fix that? [17:13] never mind, 'fixed' it. [17:16] !info sessioninstaller [17:16] sessioninstaller (source: sessioninstaller): APT based installer using PackgeKit's session DBus API. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.20-1 (maverick), package size 27 kB, installed size 252 kB === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [17:58] fun, another grub update [17:59] Hmm, food time. [18:22] Ha. Maverick wins. GNOME 3 delayed. [18:38] ummm, I think that would be Maverick loses. Gnome 3 is not going to make into it, even for testing [18:39] charlie-tca, I always assumed it wouldn't make it into Maverick at all, except by, who knows, a PPA. [19:03] Does anyone have any idea on the progress of "windicators" for maverick? It's almost alpha3 now and still no sign of it..... [19:03] hey [19:03] where do debug libs normally go [19:04] it seems like every package does this differently [19:04] some are in /usr/lib/debug others are in /usr/debug/lib others are in /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib [19:05] DrHalan: at least here on amd64 all debug libs that are installed by dpkg are in /usr/lib/debug/* [19:06] yeah thats where i put mine.. [19:06] just wanted to see if do my packages right [19:06] if you're packaging something dh_strip should take care of that [19:09] still waiting for a gui app to create my packages :D [19:09] its faster and easier to learn the text way :) [19:10] took me ages and i don't do anything comples === BUGabundo is now known as BUGa_Mad === BUGa_Mad is now known as BUGa_grumpy [19:11] i just put build a .so and put it into /usr/lib [19:12] well, unless you strip the file you shouldn't need another debug file [19:18] strip? [19:18] DrHalan: remove debug symbols from object / binary files [19:19] see 'man strip' and 'man dh_strip' [19:19] mh i just have two targets in my makefile [19:19] one for release and one for debug [19:19] and they get placed at the specific directories.. [19:19] debuild can do that for me? [19:20] yes, if you build with debug (-g usually) you'll get debug symbols in the binaries [19:20] dpkg always *discards* those unless you override dh_strip to create a -dbg package (and the official buildds always put them into a -dbgsym package) [19:22] so the packaged binaries never have debug symbols, you always have to install a debug package if you want the debug symbols [19:22] (like this the application packages are smaller) [19:24] mh if its like taht i don't know if my rules file is correct [19:24] http://pastebin.com/vwbwZLWQ [19:26] hm, looks ok to me, you won't get debug symbols in the package though since dh_strip will remove them (you *could* install 'pkg-create-dbgsym' so a -dbgsym package will automatically be created if you build locally, like on the official buildds) [19:29] sothere is dbg package withoutdebug symbols? lol [19:30] can is just remove the dh_strip thing? [19:31] try it, I don't know [19:32] * gnomefreak wonders what #ubuntu-motu is for :X [19:32] sry, we're finished I think [19:32] now that I think about it, there's #ubuntu-packaging too [19:32] man says If the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS environment variable contains "nostrip", nothing will be stripped [19:32] mh whats "DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS"? [19:33] or betterwhere is it [19:36] mh whatever g2g [19:36] thanks yofel :) [19:38] yofel: was it you that told me that the password prompt was do to auto login? [19:39] I don't think so [19:40] ok [19:40] * gnomefreak cant recall who but either way i asked for confirm in -bugs [20:07] Hello. Are catalyst drivers working on latest 10.10? [20:07] heh, another grub update, another boot failure :( [20:10] heh, rebooting it after the first boot, seems to have fixed it [20:39] i need help for "lucid & nvidia proprietary driver"? [20:39] anyone? [20:41] calmdude: join #ubuntu for Lucid support [20:41] Please read the topic of channel for more info [20:42] * gnomefreak smoke [20:43] im already in there and nobody cares/knows [20:47] calmdude: it has alot of users in there please be patient and someone will answer you. if not you can try ubuntuforums.com [20:47] this is not an overflow channel for #ubuntu [21:04] overflow channel? [21:05] u just invented the term by yourself, dont u? [21:05] heh [21:05] CardinalFang: you weroverflow was wrong word [21:06] since the channel is not full [21:06] hes gone. sorry CardinalFang === Mike_ is now known as Guest56089 [21:55] I'm searching for the feature that allows us to maintain several 10.10 computers for updates and whatever else this new feature offers [21:55] what is it called? [21:55] If I need to install on btrfs I have to partition /boot and do that from alternate CD right ? [21:56] and grub goes to /boot obviously [21:56] Volkodav, and I think /boot cannot be btrfs [21:56] right [21:57] I read there was something new with respect to maintaining several computer but don't know what it is called [21:57] *computers [21:59] OneConf? [22:00] that OneConf looks promising [22:01] JontheEchidna, google says you are spot on! === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk [22:34] * theoctagon installs ubuntu maverick meercat on btrfs on a virtual box - waiting for installation to complete [22:38] heh [22:38] I just upgraded my lucid to maveric, then converted it to btrfs :) [22:38] stupid flash drive keeps failing [22:40] could anyone check what version of AmiWM that is included in maverick? [22:42] !info amiwm [22:42] amiwm (source: amiwm): The Amiga look alike window manager. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.20.48-8 (maverick), package size 92 kB, installed size 352 kB [22:42] same version as in debian [22:45] thnks [23:34] anybody installed today from daily alternate CD? mine failed twice [23:42] /boot does not have to be sdx1 ? it can be any partition on a drive as long as it has bootable flag ?