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slidinghornOut-Of-Hand, yep :)00:00
Out-Of-Handahhh ok ... just as long as i dont loose my xp ... cool i will give it a shot :)00:00
slidinghornOut-Of-Hand, here you go: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall00:01
Out-Of-Handu see the thing on chrome os ... what do u take on that ?00:01
slidinghornOut-Of-Hand, haven't really looked at it  --  just a friendly reminder to remember to back up all important info before doing anything with your partitions.  there's always a risk of problems no matter how careful you are :)00:02
Out-Of-Handheheh... yeah i know computers toooo well ... been with them 2 long ... got the gray hairs from windows crap00:04
Out-Of-Handhmmmm... the partitions00:05
Out-Of-Handwhts a swap file ? and /dev/sda200:05
Out-Of-Handwould the sda2 be the partition00:06
Out-Of-Handok off to sleep thanks for ur assistance00:09
Out-Of-Handlater00:09
harrisonslidinghorn are you still there?00:22
slidinghornkinda, what's up? :)00:22
harrisonCan you point me to a link to do a network boot?00:22
harrisonI have to go but I will be back.00:23
slidinghornharrison hold on00:23
slidinghorn!netinstall > harrison00:23
ubot2harrison, please see my private message00:23
harrisoni did I will be back00:24
harrisonslidinghorn are you still there?03:14
slidinghornsorta kinda :)03:15
slidinghornwhat's up?03:15
harrisonI am looking at a guide right now if you don't mind standing by that would be apreciated.03:23
slidinghornsure...got a link?03:25
harrisonhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot03:29
harrisonI have one problem: I need a live cd to backup the data on the hard drive.03:30
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slidinghorni take it the usb route didn't work?03:36
harrisonI can't I don't have a usb stick availibal03:38
harrisonnetboot isn't working03:55
harrisonI guess I need to backup and try a usb stick03:56
zkriessewhat's up harrison03:57
zkriesseharrison: Whatcha having trouble with?03:58
harrisonnet boot03:58
harrisonI found the problem I think, the ethernet cable wasn't in all the way03:58
harrisonstill didn't work but it connected to my server03:59
zkriesseYeah...that'd cause some issues03:59
zkriesseOk so what are you trying to do...explain it to me in it's entirety please... :D04:00
harrisonI got a few links via PM from Slidinghorn I followed the one for my situation, I can't boot off the cd drive and there are no usbs availibal right now04:02
zkriesseSo are you all good or still having issues04:02
harrisonstill having issues04:04
zkriesseArgh04:04
harrisonI know04:04
zkriesseIssues suck04:04
harrisonif it helps any the computer is a dell inspiron 5100 from 200204:05
harrisondoes anyone know how to connect wirelessly via CLI?04:12
zkriessenada...sorry04:15
harrisonI'l try the server section04:15
pedro3005I think it might be 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 up' (not necessarily wlan0)04:16
pedro3005not sure04:16
harrisonI got it04:28
harrisonI ended up were I should have started, googleing04:28
nhandlerrobbmunson: !!!!05:00
robbmunsonhi boys!05:00
pedro3005hi robbmunson05:08
zkriessehello ThisDB06:39
ThisDBHi zkriesse06:39
zkriesseHow are you this evening/day/afternoon06:40
ThisDBGood... I'm pondering how to get free in flight wifi06:40
ThisDBBut that's not ubuntu related06:40
zkriesseAh...on what?06:40
ThisDBAmerican airlines06:41
ThisDBGogo06:41
IdleOneHow much is it?06:41
ThisDB8$ for smartphones I thing06:42
ThisDBFor 1 leg of the flight06:42
zkriesseHuh06:42
ThisDBThe long one06:42
IdleOnehow long is the flight?06:42
zkriesseWhere ya headed to/from?06:42
ThisDBTo boston06:43
ThisDBDon't know how long06:43
ThisDBFrom Texas06:43
IdleOnebout 4-5 hours06:43
IdleOneworth the $806:43
ThisDBI'm cheap :D06:43
IdleOnenot worth risking being arrested for stealing wifi06:43
ThisDBWasn't thinking arrested06:43
ThisDBI was thinking cupon code06:43
ThisDBSorry not thinking stealing06:44
IdleOneah, well06:44
zkriesseoh hey IdleOne06:44
zkriessejust realized ya06:44
IdleOneevening zkriesse06:44
zkriesseHello head_victim07:50
head_victimgday zkriesse07:51
zkriesseAussie?07:52
head_victimHah, yeah.07:52
zkriesseLol07:53
head_victimYou forget how little things are noticeable after a while.07:53
zkriessethe "g'day" gave it away07:53
zkriesseCouple buddies on here are from that area so I kinda can tell07:53
zkriesseWhat brings ya here?07:53
head_victimJust looking around for stuff to get more involved in I guess.07:54
zkriesseAWESOME!07:54
zkriesseWhatcha interested in?07:54
zkriesseWiki, coding, doc work?07:54
zkriesseIRC?07:54
head_victimI generally prefer irc/wiki type stuff as I'm a little technically challenged when it comes to programing, coding, etc.07:55
zkriesseOh cool07:55
* zkriesse is a wiki nut07:55
head_victimHah I'm learning wiki a bit, it's a lot easier when I found a decent how to rather than just blundering along.07:56
zkriesseAny wiki questions feel free to message/email/pm07:56
head_victimCheers mate, figured if I just came and hung around for a bit I'd see how it all went07:57
zkriesseColol07:57
zkriesseI'll be here until I hit the sack07:57
zkriessewhich will be a while07:57
zkriessehey hobgoblin!07:57
hobgoblinmorning07:58
zkriesseHow's it goin man?07:58
hobgoblinit's morning and I have not got home from work yet ;)07:59
zkriesseSo it sucks07:59
zkriesseNight shift?07:59
hobgoblinno not nights - I've just not started yet :)08:00
zkriesseOh gotcha08:00
zkriesseYou just missed robbmunson08:00
zkriesseAnd dvz- is in here some where08:01
hobgoblinnot seen rob for some time08:01
zkriesseYeah, he's doing somewhat better so he says08:01
zkriesseHad an injection for his legs08:02
hobgoblincool08:03
zkriesse<robbmunson> Had surgery today.08:04
zkriesse<robbmunson> injections in nerves of my legs to make them stop spasming...because the pills I were taking ultimately didnt work.08:04
hobgoblinaaah - ty zkriesse08:10
zkriesseyup08:17
kermiaczkriesse: hey miss piggy!!!! :P08:17
kermiaczkriesse: head_victim recently revamped the au loco wiki08:18
zkriessecool08:18
zkriessegood one head_victim08:18
zkriessehows my froggy08:18
kermiaczkriesse: hopping along ok, thanks mate ;)08:18
head_victimhey kermiac so you hide out here hey.08:19
kermiaczkriesse: how are you going?08:19
kermiachead_victim: yeah mate, I'm part of this team too08:19
head_victimkermiac: well there you go, you learn something new every day.08:19
zkriesselol08:20
zkriessehead_victim: so you know, kermiac is Kermit to me and I'm Missy Piggy to him08:20
zkriesseOur little joke right hoppers?08:20
kermiaczkriesse: yeah, something like that mate ;)08:20
zkriesselol08:21
kermiacit probably seems a bit strange to everyone else though haha08:21
zkriesselol08:21
head_victimWhatever takes your fancy I say.08:21
duanedesigngood morning08:42
swoodyheya duanedesign :)08:52
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OutOfHandhello all ... i was wondering ... mt pc is a Intel Foxconn 2 core... would i download the X86  or the AMD64BIT11:04
k3lt01The Foxconn 2 core is a 64 bit CPU isn't it? Ifit is download and install th 64 bit version11:05
OutOfHandi been struggling on booting off the x86  via usb boot... it stops at isapnp : no plug & play device found - before it boots into the Gui splash screen11:05
OutOfHandahhh ok thanks ... that might have been my issue all along .... many thanks will try the 64 Bit11:06
k3lt01a 64 bit will be able to use an x86 setup11:06
OutOfHandk3lt01 : problem is ... i install the x86 setup via wubi... in windoze ... installs fine .. but when i have to reboot ... it hangs11:07
OutOfHandand does not proceed . if i go safe graphics ... it stops at  isapnp : no plug & play device found - before it boots into the Gui splash screen11:08
k3lt01ah ok, I'v never used wubi so I'd just b guessing11:08
OutOfHandi have taken photo of problem11:08
k3lt01what version of windows are you running? 32 or 64 bit?11:08
OutOfHandnormal 32bit.. but what was off ,. when i installed windows xp  for first time... it kept me at the blue screen @ "Installing drivers and devices  34min remaining"11:10
OutOfHandand froze... \11:10
OutOfHandso i googled arround and found that when it boots up press f10 to get to a cmd line ...11:10
OutOfHandi had to find the cpu.inf file and delete it ... cos it was freezing the installation ..  never encountered a prob like that...11:10
k3lt01if your running 32bit windowsand want to use wubi stick with x8611:10
OutOfHandcould it be related ?11:10
k3lt01I've never come across anything like that either so I can't be sure about it11:11
OutOfHandi dont want to use windows.... but problem is some apps only work in windoze ...11:12
OutOfHandand i miss ubuntu ...11:12
OutOfHandi cant even load off a usb live disk11:12
OutOfHandits odd11:12
k3lt01have you considered a VM with WIndows within Ubuntu?11:12
OutOfHandbut .. the VM ... how does that work ? i must install virtualBox? when it installs complete, i must still register the windows xp throught the VM... but it wont pick up all the drivers ... for the Comport and stuff... of have thjey fixed it ?11:13
k3lt01Last time I used a VM, for iTunes of all things, verything worked11:14
OutOfHandis vm freeware?11:15
k3lt01get it through synaptic11:15
OutOfHandok .. will try. but im concerened11:16
OutOfHandhear me out ...11:16
k3lt01just be sure to back up wveruthing you need11:17
OutOfHandi have 3 hdd    1 =500GB with windows xp11:17
OutOfHand2= 1TB - movies and all11:17
OutOfHand3= 500Gb extra ... i tried to install ubuntu on this drive ...11:18
OutOfHandstill freezes ,...11:18
k3lt01it is freezing on a usb install?11:18
OutOfHandso if i format drive 3=500gb and install fresh of a live cd ... it would not install11:18
OutOfHandyeah11:18
OutOfHandcan i upload u a jpg where it stalls on the usb install11:18
k3lt01try a LiveCD instead, I have heard of some issues with a usb made in usb creaor and other programs like it11:19
OutOfHandok .. will give a try11:20
k3lt01Thats a good question about the jpgm my first day here so I dont know11:20
OutOfHandi know there a website ... like a dashboard sort of thing11:20
OutOfHandcant ever find the link11:20
k3lt01Ubuntuforums?11:21
k3lt01http://ubuntuforums.org/11:21
OutOfHanddunno ... looking11:21
geirha!imagebin11:26
ubot2Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it.11:26
OutOfHandthanks ... iwll upload now11:30
OutOfHandhttp://imagebin.org/10711511:31
OutOfHandthere it is11:31
k3lt01Is your BIOS st to boot from usb?11:33
k3lt01and is your usb actually bootable? have you tsted it on another machine?11:33
OutOfHandyes11:33
OutOfHandyeah i tested it ...11:33
OutOfHandim downloading x86 and 64bit iso as we speak... and ill try again11:34
k3lt01you have other message there that could be relevant11:35
k3lt01sata link down, its almost lik it doesn;t see a hdd11:36
OutOfHandyeah i was not sure about that11:37
OutOfHandany ideas on that ?11:38
k3lt01thats your No Plug and Play Device found I'd bet, it dosn;t see an actual hard drive11:38
k3lt01check your cables inside th PC make sur thay re all connected properly11:38
OutOfHandthey work within windows though11:39
OutOfHandill try disc 1 at a time ... take  one hdd off at a time11:39
k3lt01how old is this machine?11:40
OutOfHandits about 8 months now11:40
k3lt01ok so it will probably be a 64 bit system, I'm wondering how the disks are setup11:41
OutOfHandhow do u mean the disks ?11:42
k3lt01whn you boot into Windows does it tll you in the post test if you have a RAID array?11:42
OutOfHandno .. i dont follow ...11:43
OutOfHandnot that i can see11:43
k3lt01old ata disks were setup by ribbon cables and workd indepndantly of each other11:43
k3lt01new sata disks can be setup in an array so that you can have multiple disks but they appear to the BIOS as 1 disk11:44
k3lt01so your 2 disks of 500gb may actually be only rcognised as 1 disk11:44
OutOfHandok...11:49
geirhaOutOfHand: When it freezes like that, is there any response from the keyboard? E.g. hitting Caps Lock, does it toggle the Caps Lock led?11:49
OutOfHandhmmm...11:49
OutOfHandno nothing .. got a wireless kB and Mouse .. cant see ant caps lock happening11:50
geirhaAlso, have you tried booting into recovery mode (with the wubi install)?11:50
OutOfHandno led's11:50
OutOfHandrecovery mode with wubi? how do u do that ?11:50
geirhaWhen you boot, you'll first get to windows's boot loader where you can choose between windows and ubuntu11:51
OutOfHandyes correct11:51
geirhaRight after choosing ubuntu, hit Esc (or shift?) to get to another boot menu.11:51
OutOfHandyeah i tried that11:52
geirhaThen choose the second entry, with a (recovery) at the end11:52
OutOfHandit says /// boot of hdd /// normal mode///  and safe graphics mode //// and  2 other names ... and last one is DEMO mode11:52
geirhaOutOfHand: That's the liveCD, I mean boot the one you installed on disk (with wubi)11:53
OutOfHandi tried safe mode graphics... it hangs at the screen i uploaded11:53
OutOfHandok11:53
OutOfHandi will try that tonight11:54
OutOfHand geirha...  that was the menu i got after i installed through wubi. once it reboots, and as it says press ESC .. i press ESC or Shift ... and those are the options i  get ...11:57
OutOfHanddoes not load into splash screen to finalize setup11:57
OutOfHandlast time i never had such issues installing ubuntu ... makes me sad :( but awsome to learn11:58
geirhaHm. That's odd. Must be something new with the latest wubi install.11:59
OutOfHandi dunno ... its confusing .. i honestly think it might be something to do with the damn foxconn drivers ... cos even windows gave me crap... also .. it might be my HDD's ...12:01
OutOfHandthe Sata ... and older HDD... i dunno .. will have to get hands dirty again12:01
k3lt01you have both types of hdds in there?12:01
OutOfHandnot as far as i can remember ... i think they are all SATA12:02
OutOfHandbut i will have to go see12:02
k3lt01ok12:02
OutOfHandone might be the old IDE12:02
k3lt01sata hav small cables12:02
OutOfHandi think\12:02
k3lt01ata have ribbon cables12:02
OutOfHandyeah thanks12:02
OutOfHandim aware of that .. :)12:03
k3lt01lol, sorry12:03
OutOfHandno :) its cool :)12:03
k3lt01even if you do have a raid array it should still install, it would jst do it over both disks12:04
OutOfHandone thing i can say .... im glad ubuntu does not have so manny issues with the OS... like win does ... i been working with win a looooooong time12:04
OutOfHandyeah raid it should install one them disks12:05
OutOfHandbut they all independant , no array setup12:05
k3lt01ah ok12:05
OutOfHandwhat awsome apps does ubuntu have now ?12:05
OutOfHandlast one i played with was 812:06
k3lt01is that a question or a rhetorical statement12:06
OutOfHandjust curious ... any great apps u enjoy ?12:06
k3lt01devede12:06
k3lt01i take more out than i put in12:07
OutOfHandhaha ... why so ?12:07
OutOfHandu prefere running like a bomb ?12:08
k3lt01my laptop, this machine is my internt machine12:08
k3lt01and my desktop is my ntrtainment unit12:08
k3lt01no i just dont need alot of apps so i remov what i dont need12:08
OutOfHandyeah...  i can reason with that12:09
OutOfHandbrb... wanna go for a smoke12:09
OutOfHandwhere u at ?12:09
k3lt01Anyway, its getting late here (australia) so i'm grabbing some sleep12:09
OutOfHandthanks for the help K3lto112:09
OutOfHandand  geirha12:10
OutOfHandthanks ...  i will try and hope to get success12:10
k3lt01thats fine, i learned as much as you, geirha was brilliant12:10
harrisonhello14:33
mariannahi14:34
mariannaI was wondering how to delete programs that I "almost" installed. That is, I didn't write 'make install' but I did everything else14:35
deepkWell behaving dual-boot Ubuntu 9.10 (with Windows Vista) suddenly stopped recognizing Keyboard. Windows Vista recognizes it. What might cause it?14:45
duanedesignhello deepk14:47
duanedesignhello deepk14:47
deepkhi!14:48
duanedesignits 9.10?14:48
deepkYes.14:49
duanedesigndo the system menus and the right-click menu that appears when using the mouse still work14:49
Timpirihi!14:50
deepkActually, my nephew (who has this setup) complains that he's able to enter his login name and password, but once he enters the desktop, keyboard stops functioning.14:50
deepkhe says mouse is all right.14:50
geirhaSo none of the keys produce any characters?14:51
Timpirimay i ask for some help please? i have installed ubuntu 10.04 to my other machine, but there has been a problem after the updating...14:51
geirhaDon't ask to ask, just ask ;)14:51
deepkduanedesign: any other thing I should ask him to look for?14:52
TimpiriAll right!:) So the problem is that after the update i restarted the machine...and then after login, no panels, i cant see anything other than the background, and i get a few error messages...14:52
duanedesigndeepk: if -  ctrl+alt+f1 lets you switch to a console14:52
deepkit's not.14:53
duanedesigni would run the ocmmands:  /etc/init.d/dbus start   /etc/init.d/hal start14:53
duanedesignok14:53
deepkhe says none of ctrl+alt+function keys work. ctrl+alt+f8 gives him a "blank" screen.14:54
Timpiri1. could not update iceauthority file 2.there is a configuration problem with the server. 3.Nautilus could not create the following required folders: /home/user/Desktop, /home/user/nautilus14:54
duanedesigndeepk: i assume he tried unplugging and plugging it back in?14:56
deepkyeah, he did. but does not help. actually, he says "how come it works on Windows?"14:57
deepkI am trying to divert him away from Windows. Selling Ubuntu.14:57
Timpiriabout the update: it wasn't going too smoothly, first of all the internet connection (don't know why) speed was jumping between 0 and 630K...when it finished, it dropped me a message something about that some of the files that should have been downloaded were not reachable...14:57
deepkAnd I thank you for helping me out. The machine is in India and I am trying to help remotely. I can understand the plight ...14:58
duanedesigndeepk: you might try a newer version14:58
duanedesignof Ubuntu14:58
deepkThat's a rather hard sell. 9.10 is ok, right?14:59
duanedesigndeepk: might be a bug that has been fixed.14:59
deepkhmmm. possible.14:59
deepkdo you have a launchpad entry or should I do a search?14:59
deepkAnything else I should ask him to try out before giving up?15:01
duanedesignhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146644215:01
duanedesigndeepk: if he has a live CD you can boot into it15:02
duanedesignsudo gedit /etc/default/console-setup      check the contents of the file15:02
deepkAh, ok. Thanks a bunch. Will debug with him using Live CD.15:03
deepkI think this IRC channel is as important as #ubuntu. Thank you!15:04
duanedesigndeepk: also might try: Sysrq+R (raw keyboard) allows to go back to ctrl+alt+f1 VT1 and then computer works.15:05
duanedesignnot exactly sure what that means :P15:05
duanedesignsys rq + R   brings up console I think is what they are saying15:06
duanedesigndeepk: last link i have: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2009/05/18/temporary-fix-for-keyboard-not-working-error-in-ubuntu-904/15:06
smeag0lhi Silver_Fox_15:49
Silver_Fox_Hello15:49
Silver_Fox_How are you ?15:49
smeag0la bit sleepy just woke up other wise i m good you ?15:50
Silver_Fox_I am fine thank you,  I am doing some work for apple application (Boring!)15:51
Silver_Fox_Hey bobo123 =) How are you doing ?15:51
smeag0lheh15:51
philinuxmorneveaft : I'd like to remove some of the noise in IRc like peeps joining leaving. Any way?15:51
bobo123Silver_Fox_: hi! well I'm mostly ok I think :)15:51
Silver_Fox_You could hide join depart messages15:51
Silver_Fox_^ philinux15:51
Silver_Fox_Depends on the client application15:52
philinuxSilver_Fox_: whats the command I thought I'd seen it somewhere15:52
philinuxxchat15:52
Silver_Fox_ /set irc_conf_mode 115:52
Silver_Fox_I think15:52
Silver_Fox_That will apply to all channels15:52
Silver_Fox_Mostly bobo123 ? Is something the matter?15:53
bobo123is it possible to have the ~/.macromedia/ and ~/.adobe/ deleted automaticly when firefox exits?15:54
philinuxSilver_Fox_: I googled that and found Right click on channel> Settings ahaa15:54
bobo123(instead of having to install yet another fx extension to get rid of the flash cookies)15:54
Silver_Fox_Guess I am a sucker for non gui solutions philinux ;)15:55
philinuxSilver_Fox_: lol. That one you gave does it globally. The gui is channel specific. Learn something new every day eh15:56
Silver_Fox_Yes,  you do philinux15:57
philinuxSilver_Fox_: the #ubuntu channel has a lot of join/part stuff. Nice to get shut15:57
Silver_Fox_philinux,  That is a place I avoid.  It is a bit busy for me. Lots of people all wanting attention at the same time.15:58
Silver_Fox_>.<15:58
philinuxLOL15:58
Silver_Fox_I just get headaches trying to follow it all15:59
bobo123would it be possible to just change the menu command to instead of starting "firefox %u" (what is the %u for btw?) instead start "firefox %u; rm -rf ~/.macromedia; rm -rf ~/.adobe" ?15:59
Silver_Fox_They are switches which are substituted with objects when launching the application. For example in the firefox %u command, the %u stats for a single URL15:59
Silver_Fox_bobo123 ^16:00
Silver_Fox_Have a look here for more info bobo123 -> http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/stable/launchers-properties.html.en#launchers-properties-commands16:00
Silver_Fox_Or if you are KDE have a look at this bobo123  -> http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase-runtime/userguide/customizing-kde.html#desktop-icons-exec16:01
bobo123phillw: yeah the #ubuntu is impossible to use without turning on hiding of join/parts in your irc client. in Pidgin it is one of the default listed plugins, I did set it too that for rooms with more than 200 persons16:01
philinuxbobo123: Just use a script16:02
bobo123aha16:02
Silver_Fox_+1 script16:02
bobo123and yes I'm using ubuntu default (gnome)16:03
philinuxbobo123: why delete .adobe16:03
Silver_Fox_Adobe is EVIL ;) Hehe16:03
bobo123yes :-D16:03
Silver_Fox_Like me16:03
philinuxWhats hidden in that drirectory then?16:04
bobo123but your are the *right kind* of evi ;-)16:04
Silver_Fox_Good question philinux ,  what is in that dir bobo123 ?  I am aware of what goes in to macromedia16:04
bobo123philinux: adobe stores its cookies there in both those direcories I think. well they said so on slashdot at least.16:04
Silver_Fox_Interesting....16:05
* Silver_Fox_ will check later when I have a minute16:05
philinuxBut it has the acroread settings too.16:05
bobo123I don't think I use acroread in linux. why whould I when ubuntu have a better pdf-viewer builtin?16:06
philinuxbobo123: evince cant read some pdf at all16:06
philinuxbobo123: and there's no firefox plugin16:07
bobo123and if I would install say photoshop or something, then its settings would be somewhere under .wine, right?16:07
bobo123aha16:07
Silver_Fox_Wine.... memories, swearing... found alternatives ;)16:08
JoeMaverickSettSilver_Fox_, define the alternatives. =D16:08
bobo123Ok, personally I hate when pdf's gets embedded into the webbrowser pretendeing to be webpages. I want any pdf I click on to open in its own application window. But I guess it is a problem if some pdf's isn't readble in ubntus viewer16:09
bobo123something that would be nice is if the viewer, if started by firefox (only then!), had an extra button in its buttonbar "Save and exit" that when pressed moved the pdf from /tmp to my desktop (or asked for place) and exited the viewer.16:11
Silver_Fox_Hello JoeMaverickSett ,  are you well?  Alternative applications for the commercially available software. In my case I started using Umbrello for Unified Modeling Language diagrams16:11
bobo123now if someone could join evince and comix into one program..... copy evince pdf-support into comix... that would be something...16:20
Silver_Fox_Hello |[i||AZ  , how are you?16:22
JoeMaverickSettSilver_Fox_, alright, alright! i get it! =D16:22
Silver_Fox_Okay16:23
Silver_Fox_You did ask16:23
Silver_Fox_;)16:23
* Silver_Fox_ goes back to writing report16:23
bobo123Silver_Fox_: btw, the http://docs.kde.org/ website doesn't give me any webpages at all here.... that is regardless of url http://docs.kde.org/even-bad-ones-that-should-say-404/  they webpages i 0 bytes empty16:25
Silver_Fox_How odd,  I need to check my list of useful links again... *sigh*16:26
Silver_Fox_Thank you bobo12316:26
bobo123hmmm... wget http://docs.kde.org/  gives me a  '500 Internal Server Error' so perhaps it is juste temporary16:27
philinuxThat link gives a blank page ^^16:30
bobo123strange is wget http://docs.kde.org/development/ gives 500 Internal Server Error, and wget http://docs.kde.org/sdfsdfsdf give 404 Not Found, but in firefox both results in blank page and don't display any error message16:36
Silver_Fox_Hurrah, report done.  Should be a fun day developing tomorrow :)16:44
paultagCRAP!16:46
paultagI can't do reports at all16:46
paultagI keep forgetting16:46
paultagevery darn month16:46
Silver_Fox_Oh mine was pretty basic paultag . I was eyeing up (get it - pun) the competition and just doing a few screenshots and feature list16:47
philinuxHey Piskie o/16:48
hobgoblinhi philinux16:49
user_ anybody knows when nvidia 256.35 drivers will be avaiable in "hardware drivers"?16:49
hobgoblinuser_: if it works the same way as other things it will be in meerkat - not too sure whether nvidia drivers follow the normal pattern16:52
philinuxThey might use the backports16:52
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hobgoblinaah yes possibly16:53
* hobgoblin forgets backports - once bitten twice shy lol 16:53
philinuxhobgoblin: Never had a problem with backports. Proposed yes. lol16:54
hobgoblinnever had aproblem with proposed here16:54
philinuxhobgoblin: proposed is the testing bit backports are stable AFAIK16:55
hobgoblinstable ...16:55
hobgoblinheh16:55
philinuxI believe them https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports16:56
bobo123hmm... perhaps I should uncheck proposed....16:57
philinuxbobo123: defo unless you want to test ;)16:57
bobo123I wonder if the sofware-center bug is fixed yet.... I remeber that I set it to an older version to make it work some week ago... it is easy to forget16:58
philinuxbobo123: the 265 driver also needs the latest xorg. Why not set up a testing partition for maverick. By the way I see no difference on mav to lucid re graphics16:58
bobo123"user_" already left, people are too quick16:59
philinuxFar too quick17:00
hobgoblinhe latched on to me in PMs ...17:03
philinuxhobgoblin: I tel them to create a thread full stop lol17:03
philinuxOr do you mean in here?17:04
Silver_Fox_Its usually the way philinux , or at least how it tends to happen when i get involved :(17:05
Silver_Fox_I still prefer public17:06
philinuxDeffo17:06
Silver_Fox_Then I can be corrected and or get a second opinion17:06
Silver_Fox_I am not always right, unlike my master....17:06
Silver_Fox_Back later,  goodbye17:11
hobgoblinthat is my way of thinking too - but as it was not much to do with the issue I didn't bother17:15
BGL-[a]does anyone know of a basic apache2 tutorial ? all the stuff i've found so far is way outdated17:16
phillwBGL-[a]: what do you want to learn about apache2?17:20
BGL-[a]hmm well just the basics17:23
BGL-[a]i've got it running & just poking around17:24
phillwBGL-[a]: the server guide is a good resource, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html17:24
phillwI'm assuming you're running 10.04, there are versions for older releases as well.17:25
BGL-[a]yeah i'm running 10.0417:27
hobgoblinso any uk people (or anyone who possibly might know) have any idea why a bt homehub fails badly with nfs ?17:36
* paultag rages18:23
paultagOK, this issue is really really pissing me off18:23
paultaganyone know anything about filesystems and kernel modules WRT unionfs in 10.04 ?18:24
paultagunion-fuse sucks ass18:24
zkriessenada18:24
zkriessepaultag: what the heck did you break now?18:24
philinuxpaultag: might get more response in #ubuntu many more eyes18:24
paultagzkriesse: nothing, it's what's breaking me18:24
paultagphilinux: Also more static18:25
paultagphilinux: this is an issue for a kernel guru18:25
zkriessepaultag: Ok....just checking. Just don't blow it up18:25
philinuxTrue18:25
paultagphilinux: I've not been able to figure it out after a lot of owkr18:25
paultagwork *18:25
philinuxHey guys. If I did an /away how do you say your back18:25
paultagthe developer of unionfs-fuse needs a shot to the gut18:25
paultagphilinux: /back or /away18:26
paultagphilinux: depending on client18:26
philinuxlooks like the obvious worked on xchat lol18:26
paultag /back there :)18:26
zkriesseyup18:26
* paultag rages18:26
paultagback to this issue18:26
philinuxpaultag: there's less static if you disable join and parts in #ubuntu18:26
zkriessephilinux: and you know that /away <message note here> will do the away with a message18:27
philinuxyep18:27
paultagphilinux: yeah, but I mean, I'm not going to catch anyone other then IRC help pfolks, and I need someone who works with low level filesystem stuff18:27
paultagphilinux: this module is used in rare case18:27
philinuxah ok18:27
paultagUgh, I'll just download the darn source18:28
philinuxpaultag: complining tonight !!!18:29
philinuxcompiling lol18:29
paultagNah, I just need to see what the stupid thing's doing18:29
paultaghere's a hint -- not what the manpages say18:30
paultagugh18:30
sebsebsebHI18:45
harrisonhello18:46
sebsebsebharrison: hi18:46
harrisonever used 7-zip?18:47
harrison(p7zip in linux)18:47
SketchbagSo.....when i start my buntu I get stuff thats starts automatically like a document that no longer exists and stuff like that. How do i edit whatever to remove these things from starting up?19:10
hobgoblinyou could try making usre that nothing is open and setting remember current apps19:11
Sketchbag.......that just hides the problem though19:11
Sketchbagi actually want to fix it19:11
SketchbagAll my network shares are set for the specific users I have on my laptop and the main box19:12
kwgHow about main menu > Preferences > Startup Applications19:12
SketchbagThey don't show up there ..19:13
hobgoblinwhat did you do just before the issue turned up19:13
SketchbagIt pops up stuff like tomboy notes and an empty document in document veiwer19:13
Sketchbagnothing .....I noobishly had remember running applications on shutdown for like a year19:14
SketchbagSo now this stuff doesn't exist anymore and even though I turned the rember checkbox off it still pops up19:14
hobgoblinsop have you tried making sure that nothing is starting - setting remember apps and rebooting19:16
SketchbagMy laptop is messed bad by this problem ....it constantly opens totem on boot trying to play a file on my network share , which it cannot so it spams errors until you kill it or the computer crasheds19:16
SketchbagK i'll try it19:17
Sketchbagbrb19:17
Sketchbaglol yea it worked I didn't realize you had to actually push the button to save the session :P19:20
* Sketchbag *facepalm19:20
hobgoblin:)19:21
hobgoblinI ahd the same issue once upon a time19:22
SketchbagI feel like such a noob now  ha ha !19:23
SketchbagOh well I won't make that mistake again19:23
SketchbagThanx soo much19:23
Sketchbagso .....ummm could you help me with another problem ?19:24
SketchbagLOL!19:25
SketchbagI removed and purged totem cuz the youtube thing wasn't working inside the program , Then I looked and realized it was a bug but now I can't play flash in firefox19:26
SketchbagSo I got and installed the gstreamer bad plugin19:27
Sketchbagand its like the name says ...bad .. it doesnt work19:27
hobgoblinI install all the gstreamer codecs19:27
hobgoblinand flash I get with restricted extras at the same time19:28
Sketchbagthats the thing they are all installed19:28
hobgoblinwhat flash did you install ?19:29
Sketchbagadobe flash plugin for firefox19:29
Sketchbagbut after the purge it asked me to install a plugin for firefox and I got gstreamer-bad19:31
Sketchbagthat was the only option19:31
hobgoblink - have a look here and post there if necessary http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151756419:32
Bodsdaevenin all20:31
paultaghey Bodsda20:36
paultagBodsda: how's the kid?20:36
Bodsdasup paultag !20:36
Bodsdapaultag: still cooking buddy - due october 1st :)20:36
paultaghahaha :)20:36
paultagI just solved the most complex issue I've had in a long time20:37
paultagtwo issues *20:37
Bodsdapaultag: you understand women?20:37
zkriesseLOL20:38
paultagpfft, I said complex not fsck()ing un-doable20:38
zkriesseBodsda: don't we wish we could20:38
zkriesseBodsda: How ya been man?20:39
Bodsdazkriesse: well.. no actually :) that would make my brain hurt more than debugging regex issues20:39
zkriesseTrue20:39
paultag+120:39
Bodsdazkriesse: not bad thanks mate, yourself?20:39
zkriesseAh doing ok20:39
Bodsdapaultag: what was it then mate?20:40
zkriesseBodsda: Congrats on the little one btw20:40
zkriesseBodsda: Boy or girl?20:40
Bodsdazkriesse: cheers :)20:40
Bodsdazkriesse: Girl20:40
* Bodsda hopes, otherwise that £350 pram will have to be returned20:40
zkriesseBodsda: Awesome....My uncle has three daughters...the one is like not even three yet, she's sooo cute20:41
zkriesseAll my little cousins adore me though20:42
BodsdaI have just gone back to a program I started writing a month ago, it is half way through the sanity check code but I cant remember what I was checking for :( FALE20:42
Bodsdazkriesse: ladies man20:42
zkriesselol20:42
BodsdaI have a funny story to share20:42
BodsdaImagine the following:20:43
BodsdaA service desk for a borough council has an analyst who has been working there for 8 years. She is a racist feminist hell bent on doing as little as she can get away with20:44
BodsdaA technician from the networks team sends said analyst an email detailing the location of a zip file20:44
BodsdaP:\look here\thisfile.zip20:44
BodsdaThe reply he gets is........... "I cant find the file, please advise"20:45
BodsdaHow can you not find a file when given a working direct link???20:45
paultagibuclaw: poke20:47
paultagibuclaw: I need someone to play idea football with right quick20:47
paultagBodsda: lulz20:48
Bodsdapaultag: she has a knack for pissing me off20:48
ibuclawpaultag, I'll chip in, you do a header. :)20:48
ibuclawback of the net.20:48
Bodsdalike germany20:48
BodsdaUnlucky England!20:49
ibuclawpaultag, maybe in -team ?20:49
ibuclawBodsda, this isn't really a chit-chat channel. ;)20:49
paultagibuclaw: aye20:50
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