[00:42] <starspot> On a new 64-bit install for my neighbor he asked me to set his only user account to "login without password" and now I get errors on startup
[00:44] <holstein> hey starspot
[00:44] <holstein> did you set it back and see if all is well?
[00:45] <holstein> was it errors with WIFI?
[00:45] <holstein> i seem to have issues with that as well
[00:47] <starspot> holstein, I think it was because I chose the option to encrypt the drive at install and never entered a passphrase
[00:47] <starspot> no matter, I'm in boot disc now and deleting partitions for a re-install. didn't know what else to do
[00:48] <starspot> but I have noticed several buggy-looking issues with user logins, especially in KDE
[00:48] <holstein> i always say your not doing it right unless you break everything and have to reinstall a couple times ;)
[00:48] <starspot> heheh
[00:48] <starspot> I'm getting more experienced with gparted, thass for sure
[01:11] <Muscovy> How do I file a packaging-requested bug?
[01:23] <yofel> Muscovy: please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[01:31] <Muscovy> yofel: I've already read the process for introducing a new package. I'm just not sure you to file the needs-packaging bug, since I only know of how to report bugs with apport or ubuntu-bug.
[01:31] <holstein> hey guys
[01:31] <holstein> i have a bug i filed
[01:32] <yofel> !bugs
[01:32] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/610642
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[01:32] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 610642 in ubuntu "'Select Guided - resize "drive details" and use freed space and press Enter' option missing (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[01:32] <holstein> and i cant reproduce it again
[01:32] <yofel> hm....
[01:32] <holstein> how would i mark it? or remove it?
[01:33] <yofel> Muscovy: what do you get if you open https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug?no-redirect&field.tag=needs-packaging ?
[01:33] <yofel> (that's linked from the NewPackages wiki page)
[01:35] <Muscovy> Oh.
[01:35] <Muscovy> Thanks.
[01:35] <yofel> holstein: well, if you really can't reproduce it then close the bug by setting the status to 'Invalid' (btw, I'm guessing that's from the installer, please file the bug with 'ubiquity' as package next time)
[01:54] <holstein> yofel: will do
[01:54] <holstein> i marked it invalid
[01:54] <holstein> i saw that before, but it seemed 'greyed out'
[01:55] <holstein> its done though, thanks
[13:26] <qthan> hello..
[13:28] <qthan> have a question about searching for bugs in launchpad...
[13:28] <qthan> what are Milestones?
[13:30] <jpds> Like, alpha1, alpha2, beta1, ...
[13:30] <qthan> but what do these 'alpha1, alpha2...' actually mean?
[13:31] <qthan> are they different releases of ubuntu?
[13:33] <jpds> qthan: No, they are stages within a release cycle.
[13:34] <qthan> jpds: ok, so should I worry about these Milestones when searching for bugs?
[13:35] <qthan> jpds: sorry if the questions seem silly jpds! I'm new to this and I'm just not quite sure what bugs I should be looking at...
[13:36] <jpds> qthan: I suggest looking at bugs against programs you use often and see if you can reproduce them
[13:38] <qthan> ok, i'll try that
[13:39] <qthan> jpds: thanks jpds!
[13:39] <jpds> No problem, feel free to ask if you need anything.
[13:41] <qthan> jpds: ok
[13:59] <qthan> jpds: I'm looking at this bug atm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+bug/609843?comments=all
[13:59] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 609843 in gnome-utils (Ubuntu) "memory leaks (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[14:00] <qthan> jpds: i can replicate the bug on my desktop by following the instructions in the bug description...
[14:00] <om26er> 6000 files is not a small number. I wont call that a memory leak
[14:00] <qthan> jpds: so what is my next step?
[14:02] <qthan> om26er: it may not be a memory leak, true.... but it does caused a load spike, and suddenly chews up a large amount of RAM...
[14:03] <qthan> om26er: I was running top in a terminal while I dragged all the files to another nautilus window...
[14:03] <om26er> qthan, what happens if you close the search utility. does the memory  usage come down?
[14:09] <qthan> om26er: sorry for delay, i am just running the search utility again and seeing what happens if i let it running a little longer...
[14:10] <qthan> om26er: here is my top output:
[14:10] <qthan> top - 23:09:44 up  2:42,  2 users,  load average: 0.80, 1.12, 0.89
[14:10] <qthan> Tasks: 203 total,   2 running, 201 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[14:10] <qthan> Cpu(s):  4.3%us,  1.9%sy,  0.2%ni, 92.2%id,  1.5%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[14:10] <qthan> Mem:   4056520k total,  4023256k used,    33264k free,     1056k buffers
[14:10] <qthan> Swap:  2931852k total,  2208988k used,   722864k free,    36708k cached
[14:10] <qthan>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[14:10] <qthan>  3383 haqt      20   0 5148m 3.0g 3352 S    1 77.2   0:21.87 gnome-search-tool
[14:10] <qthan>  2757 haqt      20   0 1053m 345m 343m S   21  8.7   3:03.66 /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox --comment lucid-mini-amd64 --startvm 41b4bd1f-1245-42a1-85ed-d527079776fd --no-startvm-errormsgbox
[14:10] <qthan>  2464 haqt      20   0  802m 122m 6436 S    0  3.1  11:50.66 /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.8/firefox-bin
[14:10] <qthan>  1018 root      20   0  158m  19m 3204 S    3  0.5   9:53.28 /usr/bin/X :0 -nr -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-HiXAz4/database -nolisten tcp vt7
[14:10] <qthan>  3038 haqt      20   0  673m  13m 5448 S    0  0.3   0:15.35 pidgin
[14:10] <qthan>  1562 haqt      20   0  706m  11m 2496 S    0  0.3   0:21.05 nautilus
[14:11] <qthan> mmmm... probably hard to see what's going on since the formatting's all whacked...
[14:11] <om26er> i see 77.2% mem usage
[14:12] <qthan> yea... here's top after i kill search proc...
[14:12] <qthan> top - 23:12:09 up  2:44,  2 users,  load average: 0.28, 0.77, 0.78
[14:12] <qthan> Tasks: 202 total,   1 running, 201 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[14:12] <qthan> Cpu(s):  1.4%us,  1.1%sy,  0.9%ni, 96.0%id,  0.5%wa,  0.1%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[14:12] <qthan> Mem:   4056520k total,   865004k used,  3191516k free,     1704k buffers
[14:12] <qthan> Swap:  2931852k total,   414852k used,  2517000k free,    59480k cached
[14:12] <qthan>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[14:12] <qthan>  2757 haqt      20   0 1053m 345m 344m S    5  8.7   3:06.13 /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox --comment lucid-mini-amd64 --startvm 41b4bd1f-1245-42a1-85ed-d527079776fd --no-startvm-errormsgbox
[14:12] <qthan>  2464 haqt      20   0  802m 129m 9644 S    0  3.3  11:53.17 /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.8/firefox-bin
[14:12] <qthan>  1018 root      20   0  158m  21m 3616 S    2  0.5   9:57.11 /usr/bin/X :0 -nr -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-HiXAz4/database -nolisten tcp vt7
[14:12] <qthan> so memory's all freed once proc was killed...
[14:12] <jpds> !pastebin
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[14:13] <qthan> sorry! i'll checkout pastebin now...
[14:14] <qthan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/470250/
[14:15] <qthan> can u see my top output with that link?
[14:17] <om26er> yes.. and memory usage is back to normal
[14:17] <qthan> also, the copy (or would it be mv) operation was not carried out...
[14:18] <qthan> so would that be a bug confirmed?
[14:20] <om26er> I dont think its a bug.. copy action where the number of files is too large will certainly consume system resources
[14:22] <qthan> yes, true... i can see the cpu load go up due to the disk activity... but the files i was looking for were just a few thousand jpgs ~few hundred kb in size each...
[14:23] <qthan> there should not have be any problems in copying a few thousand jpgs to another folder, right?
[15:55] <primes2h> Hello hggdh, my membership in ubuntu-bugcontrol is about to expire in a day. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol
[15:56] <primes2h> I wish it  was renewed if possible . :-)
[16:14] <hggdh> primes2h: looking into it now
[16:19] <hggdh> primes2h: done, thank you for helping :-)
[16:35] <primes2h> hggdh: Thank you very much! BTW, how r u? do u remember we met at the last UDS?
[16:40] <primes2h> hggdh: I'm one of the two italian guys  that attended the UDS.
[16:45] <vish> primes2h: hmm , i think there might have been more Italians too :D
[16:54] <charlie-tca> y
[17:01] <hggdh> primes2h: yes, I do remember you (and Paolo) :-)
[17:34] <njin_> I'm not able to understand this: laptop with Usb keyboard, when restart usb keyboard don't work in Grub OS selection, after work, restart from Windows ever works. At wich package have to assign ?
[17:37] <njin_> Is possible that ubi save a last config file before reboot and something is wrong in this?
[18:15] <primes2h> vish: Sure, but hggdh understood what I meant ;-)
[18:44] <drew212> dangit, I've been moving so I haven't had time to do any triage =X.
[19:40] <gnomefreak> can anyone confirm bug 611001
[19:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 611001 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Password prompt shows when automatically login (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611001
[20:04] <hggdh> gnomefreak: out of sheer curiosity (I cannot test it) -- wouldn't the password request be related to the gnome-keyring?
[20:08] <gnomefreak> hggdh: it would if it was mandiatory. i get the feeling it is using the keyring prompt for the auto login request. but yes i have thought of that
[20:10] <gnomefreak> gnome-keyring should not need a password for itself
[20:10] <gnomefreak> unless you request for it
[20:15] <hggdh> well, by default g-k will have the same password as your login
[20:15] <gnomefreak> that would defeat the point of auto wouldnt it?
[20:15] <hggdh> yes, and it is (or was, not up-to-date) a knwon issue
[20:16] <hggdh> the bypass was to reset your g-k to empty
[20:16] <hggdh> er, s/g-k/& password/
[20:16] <gnomefreak> thats kind of crappy :(
[20:16] <hggdh> :-)
[20:17] <gnomefreak> well at least it is known
[20:17] <hggdh> not really. If you accept you want automagic login, then you really do not need a password for the keyring
[20:18] <hggdh> it is like taking out the front door(not just not locking it), but wanting all rooms locked
[20:18] <gnomefreak> true
[20:48] <gnomefreak> hggdh: any easy way to apply that work around?
[21:12] <vish> gnomefreak: i'm pretty sure that is a dup ... that has been a feature for a very long time
[21:12] <vish> and totally irritates me :s
[21:13] <hggdh> gnomefreak: enter the passphrase, and then open System/Preferences/Password & Encryption Keys; alt-click on the login keyring, and change the passphrase
[21:13] <gnomefreak> it was worked out in Lucid by release time IIRC
[21:13] <vish> gnomefreak: nope
[21:13] <gnomefreak> oh
[21:13] <gnomefreak> vish: i thought it was.
[21:13] <vish> i still have that in Lucid.. and not sure how to get out of it :(
[21:14] <gnomefreak> vish: see above
[21:14]  * gnomefreak trying it
[21:14] <gnomefreak> or atleast will be
[21:14] <vish> hggdh: you can change the passphrase , but when we auto-login , we have to unlock
[21:15] <hggdh> vish: you have to set the passphrase to null
[21:15] <vish> oh!
[21:15] <vish> hmm.. never tried that :D
[21:17] <gnomefreak> ok be back going to see if it worked
[21:26] <gnomefreak> hggdh: thanks it works
[21:26]  * gnomefreak happy now
[21:26] <hggdh> gnomefreak: cool! one down ;-)
[21:26] <gnomefreak> vish: it works on 10.10
[21:27] <vish> yay!
[21:27] <vish> hehe , this is like one of the locks on a live cd! where you get prompted for a pword and just hitting enter works :D
[21:27] <vish> that thing has been bothering me for a very long time ;)
[21:29] <gnomefreak> updated bug
[21:30] <gnomefreak> vish: that makes 2 of us
[21:30]  * hggdh is happy for having gotten one right :-)
[21:30] <hggdh> so 3 of us
[21:30] <gnomefreak> :)
[21:31] <gnomefreak> my TTYs started working this last reboot
[21:31] <hggdh> even better, two down <unknown/> to go
[21:32]  * gnomefreak not likely going to get chrome to work in ff4
[21:32] <gnomefreak> well it works but nothing else does with it
[22:10] <Daekdroom> Is this where I ask how to report a bug? (information I need to give, package to link against etc)
[22:11] <charlie-tca> We usually recommend using "ubuntu-bug <package_name>" to help get all the information required
[22:11] <Daekdroom> charlie-tca, yeah, but it's a DRM regression bug.
[22:11] <Daekdroom> Should I file it against the kernel version?
[22:11] <charlie-tca> doesn't matter
[22:11] <charlie-tca> regression is still a bug.
[22:11] <Daekdroom> Ok.
[22:12] <charlie-tca> I think it is against the kernel. <package_name> becomes "linux"
[22:12] <charlie-tca> You can add a comment before submitting that it is a possible regression
[22:14] <Daekdroom> charlie-tca, should I use the kernel I'm reporting against when using ubuntu-bug command or it doesn't matter?
[22:14] <charlie-tca> no, use ubuntu-bug linux
[22:14] <Daekdroom> I mean, which kernel I have to be booted on.
[22:15] <charlie-tca> It will tell us the actual kernel in the report
[22:15] <charlie-tca> Yes, if it is not the kernel in use at the time, include the information from "uname -a"
[22:15] <Daekdroom> Ok. Rebooting.