=== dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === shade_ is now known as shade\ [00:51] on a fresh install I installed samba4 out of curiosity then uninstalled it. It's left some cruft that I think is interfearing with the samba3 install... doing a ps aux -e | grep samba & smbd & nmbd shows all are loaded.. #samba says that the samba process is related to version 4 and smbd & nmbd for version 3.. how do I erradicate samba4? Just delete all related files? [00:52] Scunizi: Better to reinstall and then purge instead of just remove. [00:52] Then if there's anything left and you remove it, the package manager won't remember you removed it by hand and reinstall it properly if you ever install the package again. [00:53] ScottK: I tried purge after remove.. of course it didn't work.. will installing samba4 eliminate samba3's installation? or replace my smb.conf file? [00:53] Scunizi: Purge only works if the package is installed. [00:54] It shouldn't, but if you're concerned, make a copy of it first. [00:54] did.. thanks.. [00:54] * ScottK isn't much of a samba person, so can't say for sure. [00:55] ScottK: just so I have the right purge command.. sudo apt-get purge samba4 ..? === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann-away [00:55] yes. [00:55] (assuming samba4 is the binary package name) [00:55] ok.. thanks [01:02] Also had to do a apt-get autoremove for some of the extra packages. [02:23] i have multiple subdomains on my home server [02:23] i used to keep the subdomain files in different folders in /var/web [02:24] is this a normal place to keep it? === unreal_ is now known as unreal === unreal_ is now known as unreal [03:22] I have a server using software raid in a esata enclosure. I physically moved the location of the server and the enclosure and now my raid array is resyncing am I loosing data? [03:39] http://pastebin.com/Z5DaVRvL <-- can't kill samba ... any ideas? [03:52] Italian_Plumber, kill -9 [03:53] if that doesn't work, the only way I know of is rebooting === luis_lopez is now known as ` === ` is now known as luis_lopez [03:55] :) thanks... I tried that and it seemst o have worked. [04:15] does anyone know how to connect wirelessly via CLI? [04:18] harrison, this is constantly asked here. I didn't find yet a wiki/tutorial/howto about that. If you find, please, tell me so I'll be able to answer other people. [04:25] http://blog.tplus1.com/index.php/2008/06/13/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-from-the-ubuntu-command-line/ [04:25] there is the link [04:26] harrison, did it work for you? Can I recommend this link? [04:27] yes [04:30] What's some really amazing thing about Ubuntu that I could use in a report? [04:31] What he says is "Give an "Oh Wow" fact about the project." [04:32] MTecknology, the best features of ubuntu over other linux distros aren't "oh wow" things [04:32] over windows? [04:33] in general [04:33] in my opinion, Ubuntu's best feature is the simplified nature of the total package [04:34] it gets a lot of it from the debian upstream, but then ubuntu picks a well-thought out subset and puts it together nicely, very little work required [04:34] I was thinking something like, 50 billion people contributed to it [04:35] harrison, thanks [04:35] That is true though - it puts together an awesome default setup [04:35] I guess the crowning moment for me was when they added the LAMP tasksel [04:35] one check box for a working web server [04:36] and now tasksel is going away.... [04:36] :( [04:36] what's it being replaced with? [04:36] So far I've heard nothing [04:36] aptitude is being removed from the default install too [04:40] I always use apt-get anyway [04:40] I know aptitude offers more features but old habits die hard [04:40] it IS kind of silly to include both in the default install [04:41] but tasksel is one of the best features of ubuntu server [04:41] if they don't replace it with something they're seriously hurting it [04:42] qman__: indeed [04:50] qman__ what is tasksel? [04:51] harrison, `sudo tasksel` and see [04:51] okay [04:52] it also runs near the end of a ubuntu server install [04:54] That is something to remember [04:54] what is an edubuntu server? === Barre_ is now known as Barre [04:56] HI [04:57] hello [04:58] !edubuntu > ubottu [04:58] twb, please see my private message [04:58] Oops [04:58] !edubuntu > harrison [04:58] harrison, please see my private message [04:58] harrison: try "/msg ubottu foo" when you want to know "what is foo?" [04:58] how are you [04:59] fine [04:59] are you a system admin? [05:00] I will try that but what I wanted to know, does edubuntu have a server-client system? [05:00] Silentwhisper no I am not, someday maybe. [05:00] sorry, i have no idea [05:01] why you're here? [05:01] what is your careeer now? [05:02] Homeschool student. [05:02] This is a great start for you [05:02] i'm here to learn and shift career [05:02] in what way? [05:03] i hope i could do that a short span of time [05:03] What administer a server? [05:03] i would like to learn about server admin [05:04] I mostly browse the forum how-to's to learn how to install vsftpd and samba and the sort. [05:05] kylenet.dyndns.org is my server. [05:06] vsftpd to transfer files? [05:07] yes it's a ftp server. [05:09] samba to host files? [05:09] were you able to finish the installation [05:09] ? [05:09] what do you want to accomplish now? [05:09] yes [05:10] where are the files? [05:10] I have it setup on my parents computer, it runs win 7 and it works well. [05:12] I want to use postfix to, instead of having a unix account for each address, use LDAP to manage the users. Is there a guide for this? [05:12] What's postfix? [05:12] MTA. [05:14] It's 12:14 EST time for bed. (thats in Quebec, Canada) [05:15] what is the url for your files [05:31] where is your fileserver? [05:36] nowadays what are the skills i should learn a system admin? [05:36] as a system admin [06:01] What form does Postfix want LDAP users in? === mrjazzcat is now known as mrjazzcat-afk [06:33] No matter what form I put the password in, ldap stuff gives "ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)". [06:38] Nonpython: is the LDAP server slapd on lucid? [06:40] yes [06:40] On the server, does "slapcat" work? Does "ss -lp" report that slapd is listening to the appropriate port? [06:41] If so, then try to use "ldapsearch -x" on the server. [06:41] Probably ldapsearch -x -H ldap://127.0.0.1/ [06:43] Slapcat does not work. ss -lp reports that slapd is running on port 24726. [06:46] What does slapcat say? [06:46] Nothing. [06:47] I am just running "slapcat". No arguments. [06:47] What is its exit status? [06:50] 127. [06:50] That is "command not found" [06:50] You should be getting an error message from your shell -- you should investigate that sometime. [06:50] Are you running slapcat as root? [06:51] Lawl. That was from a typo. [06:51] Really it is 0. [06:53] OK; do you have any evidence that there are any objects in your LDAP database? [06:56] no [07:03] I think your LDAP is working but you don't have any objects [07:10] How do I get some? [07:16] ldapadd [08:37] I have 2 virtual hosts. One works, and one shows the same content as the other one, which is not right. What is wrong? [08:41] By "virtual hosts" do you mean apache vhosting? [08:50] yes [08:51] I don't do apache, sorry [09:01] twb: i got that error when having apache read the config files in the wrong order. so i renamed the other one to 00_name and that solved the problem. its about having a default one i guess. [09:33] hi all [09:33] i need help with shorewall. Is possible log mac address with masquerading? [09:46] hello! need help with UUIDs: i have 3 partitions on my disk, sda1, sda2 (primary) and sda5 (extended). now, for some unknown reason sda5 suddenly has no UUID and I can't mount it anymore. How to create a new UUID and attach it to sda5? [09:47] Depends on the filesystem [09:47] What does "sudo blkid /dev/sda5" say? [09:48] its ext4 [09:48] What's the whole line? [09:48] no result for blkid /dev/sda5 [09:49] That doesn't make sense [09:49] blkid gives me result only for sda1 and sda2 [09:49] What does "sudo file -s /dev/sda5" say? [09:50] "/dev/sda5: Minix filesystem [09:51] e2fsck -f says that filesystem is clean [09:53] You've fucked up your filesystem somehow [09:53] what I have already tried is tune2fs -U random /dev/sda5, but that didn't yield any result for me [09:54] What is the filesystem type for sda5 in the partition table? [09:54] IIRC it should be 83 for ext [09:54] but how? only users with limited right are working on the system, I didn't touch anything for at least a month or two :( [09:54] I don't know [09:55] how can I get this what you need? (83) [09:56] I would probably run "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda" [09:57] write new partition table? will all data then be lost? [09:58] That will *inspect* the partition table [09:58] Make a backup of it first if you're really paranoid [09:59] aha, no. I'm not that paranoid :) [10:00] well, i'm in cfdisk, all partitions are listed [10:00] And what type does it list for sda5? [10:01] sda1 (swap),sda2 (root, ext3) and sda5 (extended, ext3) (sry!, its ext3 after all) [10:02] sda5 is listed as logical ext3, linux [10:02] That's what it SHOULD say [10:02] I don't know what you've done to this box that it can't see it in file -s and blkid [10:04] this is computer of my aunt, she has 3 children and some of them must have done something. but they all have limited user accounts, what they can do?! [10:04] all is there except UUID [10:06] when I run 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid' only sda1 and sda2 are listed [10:10] sir twb i was able to setup webserver and mail server quit and dirty [10:10] what else should i learn in maintaining server? [10:11] anyone can help me with shorewall? I need log macaddress of all my packet [10:16] someuser: /dev/disk/by-uuid won't see tune2fs changes until you restart udev [10:17] trinkity__: try #shorewall [10:17] i did shutdown -r now [10:18] but still no changes [10:42] twb: i did it on the old way, with /dev/sda5 instead of UUID in fstab. but still no explanation while UUID is suddenly missing. I will do the upgrade to 10.04 and hope that upgrade process will notice that UUID is missing and generate a new one for me. thank you for your help! [11:35] How do I run installation in text mode? i'm trying to install server on remote HP server using the ILO interface that I can access only via ssh, but as soon as installCD boots up it goes to graphics mode. Is there a way to circumvent that? [11:35] MmikeDOMA: boot with fb=false [11:36] Unless you're using 10.04, in which case you're fucked due to a bug in the server CD. [11:36] (Serial also works, as long as there's no graphics card installed.) [11:39] twb, i'm using 10.04. as soon as i get ISOLINUX booting message it goes to fb [11:39] so I'm fucked [11:40] Neat :) === someuser_ is now known as someuser [11:40] MmikeDOMA: you can either preseed past it and do the install over ssh, roll your own CD, or netboot [11:41] Or do a d-i-less install from an existing unix system [11:41] in try in channel #shorewall but nothing help for me [11:41] i need log mac address in shorewall log [11:42] twb: problem is that ILO remcons won't let me press any keys because it's in graphics mode. It tells me to use web graphics interface which I can't because ILO adapter is on private network, i used ssh port-forwarding to access it. And I don't have hands on site. [11:42] Oh, well. [11:42] MmikeDOMA: yeah, I hate that stuff with a passion [11:42] I'm begining to grow a passion for that hate these days, yes. [11:42] At least your LOM actually supported direct ssh [11:43] Most of the routers and loms I get thrown at ONLY support some goddamn activex-based web UI [11:44] Maybe there is a way to fool the java applet [11:44] MmikeDOMA: I assume you're nowhere near the machine? [11:45] twb, 2 hours drive. I'll be there tomorrow but I wanted to prepup from home. [11:45] And I'm not going there now. [11:45] Nod. [11:45] Can you boot the host off PXE? [11:47] Nope. [11:47] But, would the installCD recognize the serial console if attached? [11:47] It'll support it, but you'll need to pass parameters via the VGA console first :-( [11:48] (You need to do that for 8.04, too, it's just I assumed you could type that blind.) [11:49] Gnj! [11:50] So, the only thing I'm left to is making java applet to connect trough the ssh-forwarded connectio [11:50] Good luck [11:51] Why does a server install CD goes to framebuffer anyway? [11:51] Because of a fancier look? [11:51] MmikeDOMA: That's a very good question. [11:51] It broke stuff for much people [11:52] And has no use [11:53] MmikeDOMA: just to piss me off [11:53] that's the ONLY reason [11:53] The whole world is against me [11:58] Hi server guys. Remember that little django app for celebrating the 10.04.1 release I mentioned yesterday. Can anyone provide me a publically reachable VM to test it on (don't wanna waste time waiting for IS) [11:59] twb: Ehm, but we agree with you! :) [12:00] twb, i'm with you too ;) [12:00] The fact that plymouth is a required part of ubuntu-minimal, and that even with "splash" removed from the boot parameters, it's still *running*, is enough of a turn-off that everyone in my office is turning to one another and saying "so, remind me, why did we switch to Ubuntu again?" [12:01] Yes [12:01] implementing plymouth was stupid, and useless. [12:01] And they did it in an LTS release [12:01] which isn't supposed to be usefull at all! [12:02] And because i915 is enabled by default, my cheapo VGA-only LCD monitors chop off the leftmost column on the tty, so I have to spend five minutes every other day pissing about with their horizontal alignment. The old 80x25 default was big enough that it wasn't noticable. [12:03] The other one that has screwed me hard so far is the race conditions in upstart/mountall when booting from NFS [12:04] To "fix" it I had to change mountall-net.conf to just "killall -USR1 mountall" every tenth of a second, forever [12:05] Where does one report a bug for ubuntu-server? Same place as for desktop? [12:05] MmikeDOMA: launchpad somewhere [12:06] Try "BROWSER=w3m apport-bug" or so [12:06] https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface is useful [12:13] wat is the recomended way to add and configure a bridge at boot? [12:14] add a br0 in /etc/network/interfaces/ [12:14] add a br0 in /etc/network/interfaces [12:14] Unless you're using libvirt, in which case it probably shits over that and does it internally [12:14] No it doesn't [12:14] I stand corrected [12:15] I just remember installing it somewhere and going "aah, wtf are you doing to my configuration?!" before going back to invoking qemu by hand. [12:16] Hmm, never had that [12:16] Jeeves_: will it also create the bridge and add the proper intefaces to it??? [12:17] a_ok: brctl's package has a supplementary manpage for interfaces(5) that makes it very clear [12:17] twb: by default libvirt should not do anything with bridging as it is optional [12:17] If you configure it correct, yes :) [12:17] !pastebin [12:17] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [12:17] twb: ah thanks! [12:17] a_ok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470214/ [12:17] apt-get install bridge-utils; man 5 bridge-utils-interfaces [12:18] that should teach me to prefere google over manpages [12:30] Jeeves_: those are some sensable defaults, verry nice === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann [12:52] morning all [12:53] morning sommer :) [12:53] sommer: are you in EST? [12:54] yeppers :-) [12:54] same here, just got to work. [12:54] oh ya starting the day, heh [12:55] i'm gonna go find some coffee [13:00] twb, I did it! [13:00] twb, i needed to port-forward port 23 from my homebox to the ILO adapter [13:00] and now i have the neaty-neat graphical display of a ubuntu server install [13:01] stupid! [13:01] MmikeDOMA: you should post it on your blog or whatever [13:02] So that the next guy can google and work it out [13:02] Sure thing [13:05] Just to be clear: you're *reverse* forwarding 23 back to the ilo host? [13:06] twb: yes. I opened 23 on localhost and ssh-tunneled it to 23 on the ilo [13:09] does anybody know of an isp control panel that doesn't need postfix/apache2/bind to be locally installed? [13:10] <_ruben> directadmin [13:12] _ruben: it's for a charity so it needs to be free [13:22] morning [13:23] kirkland, here now if are [13:23] good morning mr zul [13:23] smoser: sup? [13:23] hey smoser [13:23] responding to ping about bug 610134 which i see you fix-commited. [13:23] Launchpad bug 610134 in byobu "'byobu -S _name_' is broken" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610134 [13:23] smoser: oh, i was just asking about your byobu bug [13:24] smoser: yeah, it's fixed, such that you can use byobu -S ... to name your sessions [13:24] smoser: however, byobu-select-session only looks for sessions that start with byobu* [13:24] i think thats reasonable [13:24] smoser: which should only affect you if you ssh into a system with multiple running byobu sessions, and you want to choose one [13:25] smoser: if you name your session byobu -S smoser, it won't appear in the list [13:25] yeah. hmm.., but one thing that would stnk about that. [13:25] if i had byobu by default enabled [13:26] and created a session with 'dev'. the select then wouldn't show it to me. [13:26] and may possibly not be able to attach at all when ssh'ing in [13:26] smoser: away for 5minutes, in a 1:1 [13:26] i guess i could work around with ssh -t bash, then byobu -d -r [13:47] is it possible for me to have 3 lvm volume groups on 1 physical volume? [13:54] AndyGraybeal, maybe, but why? you can just use one volume group and create as many volumes in it as you want [13:57] smoser: i could also force a byobu- in front of your "dev" when you do byobu -S dev [13:57] smoser: but i felt that might be rude [13:58] yeah, i was going to suggest that. [13:58] it may or may not be all that rude [13:58] screen -d -r 'dev' [13:58] would still attach [13:58] it does matching [13:59] zul: hey! [13:59] zul: what's the state of https://code.launchpad.net/~mathiaz/server-sru-tracker/visual-improvements/+merge/29329? [14:00] smoser: oh? cool.... [14:00] zul: mathiaz: morning guys [14:00] kirkland: o/ [14:01] kirkland: how is the east coast doing? [14:01] mathiaz: it's very, um, liberal :-) [14:01] kirkland: :) [14:01] mathiaz: :-) [14:01] hi kik [14:01] i'm wrong, kirkland [14:02] kirkland even [14:02] mathiaz: once i get it unbroken ill let yo know :) [14:02] it must match to the beginning only [14:03] which means you could change your selection to match at the end. [14:03] and always append .byobu [14:03] so that select would show all byobu sessions (searching by appending .byobu) [14:03] s/appending/ending/ ^ [14:04] qman__: thankj you for the response, i just came to the same conclusion a second ago after reading more. [14:04] bug 574910 is getting bad. [14:04] Launchpad bug 574910 in linux-ec2 "High load averages on Lucid while idling" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574910 [14:05] smoser: sweet, that sounds perfect [14:05] you should, of course, test my assertions. [14:05] :) [14:14] smoser, kirkland: about bug 574910, is it EC2-specific ? Or does it also affect UEC images / classic servers ? [14:14] Launchpad bug 574910 in linux-ec2 "High load averages on Lucid while idling" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574910 [14:15] i was just thinking that. [14:15] i have no idea on non-ec2 [14:15] but there is suggestion that it might be larger. i have no data at all about non-ec2. [14:15] ttx: unfortunately in our testing, we don't generally leave uec-instances run for very long [14:16] ttx: "does it respond on ssh? if yes: terminate; if no: mark test failed" [14:16] kirkland: could be good to compare some idle load [14:16] I'm pretty sure it's EC2/linux-ec2 specific [14:17] sounds like something we could integrate in our tests though [14:17] That last comment may be orthogonal to the issue, but talks about VirtualBox [14:17] what is good to use for an ftp server with ubuntu? [14:17] ttx, yeah, its becoming a metabug [14:18] Hey guys. Is there an easy way to figure out when last a disk was fsck'd? [14:18] smoser: the "virtualization sucks" metabug ? [14:18] but there is one other bug linked there about way-too-frequent wakeups that could cause such things. [14:18] more "performance on lucid sucks" metabug [14:18] jiboumans: agreed; we could run some long tests over the weekend, when the rig isn't doing anything else [14:18] i've just started testing something here. [14:19] I fired up A.) lucid image B.) lucid image with karmic kernel and ramdisk [14:19] on each, I am running [14:19] while : ; do read r < /proc/loadavg; echo "$(date): ${r}"; sleep 10 || break; done | tee log.txt [14:19] the goal of whic his to see if simply swapping the kernel makes the loadavg reporting go away. [14:21] What can I use for a ftp server, apparently filezilla doesn't have the server for ubuntu [14:21] I haven't seen clues to a general lucid issue. But it might indeed be a common issue that has more visible consequences in virtualized hosts [14:21] zatricky: tune2fs can set that time, so it probably has a way to read it as well [14:21] Jinxed-: vsftpd ? [14:21] so far, the lucid kernel is definitely showing spikes. [14:21] thanks, jiboumans. looking into that, will post result [14:22] ttx, will give it a try [14:22] thanks [14:23] SpamapS: Thanks for looking into the php5 patches for Kolab. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help. [14:24] zatricky: yeah, tune2fs -l /dev/xxx [14:25] zatricky: Last checked: Sat May 15 00:54:20 2010 # on one of my boxes [14:25] cool. Just got tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | grep Last\ checked, gives a similar result [14:25] thanks, jiboumans [14:25] my pleasure === mrjazzcat-afk is now known as mrjazzcat [14:39] what is a simple GUI based ftp server I could use [14:40] Jinxed-: gui???? [14:41] a server isn't gui based [14:41] vsftpd is a good ftp server, though, and quite simple to configure [14:41] !webmin [14:41] webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead. [14:41] !ebox [14:41] ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox [14:42] ebox can probably (or possibly) help you configure vsftpd [14:42] So if I get rid of pure-ftp and pure-ftp admin and get wsftp with ebox [14:42] the pure-ftp admin only had configuration for users etc [14:42] I want to know how I can connect with a filezilla client [14:42] and it doesn't seem to work [14:43] vsftpd, not ws [14:43] ok [14:43] vs = very secure [sic] [14:43] it's probably the most used ftp server on the planet, so I guess it's rather secure [14:43] Jinxed-: just public ftp, or private users as well? [14:45] RoyK, I just want to have ftp on a private network that would allow for both public and private users [14:45] ok [14:46] out of curiosity, why use ftp on a private network? [14:46] eh... RoyK there are alot of different options for ebox [14:46] why not cifs or nfs? [14:46] Jinxed-: it's probably just as easy to configure vsftpd in the config file [14:46] 1.) I don't know what those are. 2.) I like ftp :) [14:46] Jinxed-: are the PCs on linux or windows? [14:47] or mac [14:47] linux/windows [14:47] for the windows machines, run samba - that'll work with linux as well [14:47] just install samba, configure the shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf and you're done [14:47] shares suck [14:47] why? [14:47] Im locked out 70% of the time [14:48] that shouldn't happen [14:48] we're running samba on a 200 user network - it works [14:48] for the linux machines, you might want NFS, but then, SMB/CIFS works with linux as well [14:49] yeah... it seems to work well when i use ip addresses [14:49] but not when I use the network name [14:49] do you have a windows server in there as well? [14:50] nope [14:50] Im just running [14:50] ubuntu (desktop edition) [14:50] ok, setup samba as a windows NT domain controller and it'll just work [14:51] ehhh how would i do that [14:51] :) [14:51] http://tinyurl.com/34fpthl [14:57] he he [14:57] not very nice [14:57] How do I install a printer via the command line? [14:57] :? [14:57] ask roy -> lmgtfy -> " How do I install a printer via the command line" [14:58] :) [14:58] harrison: I think that's covered in the CUPS docs, though I haven't done it for years [14:58] Where would I find the CUPS docs? [14:59]