[00:51] <Scunizi> on a fresh install I installed samba4 out of curiosity then uninstalled it.  It's left some cruft that I think is interfearing with the samba3 install... doing a ps aux -e | grep samba & smbd & nmbd shows all are loaded.. #samba says that the samba process is related to version 4 and smbd & nmbd for version 3.. how do I erradicate samba4? Just delete all related files?
[00:52] <ScottK> Scunizi: Better to reinstall and then purge instead of just remove.
[00:52] <ScottK> Then if there's anything left and you remove it, the package manager won't remember you removed it by hand and reinstall it properly if you ever install the package again.
[00:53] <Scunizi> ScottK: I tried purge after remove.. of course it didn't work.. will installing samba4 eliminate samba3's installation? or replace my smb.conf file?
[00:53] <ScottK> Scunizi: Purge only works if the package is installed.
[00:54] <ScottK> It shouldn't, but if you're concerned, make a copy of it first.
[00:54] <Scunizi> did.. thanks..
[00:54]  * ScottK isn't much of a samba person, so can't say for sure.
[00:55] <Scunizi> ScottK: just so I have the right purge command.. sudo apt-get purge samba4 ..?
[00:55] <ScottK> yes.
[00:55] <ScottK> (assuming samba4 is the binary package name)
[00:55] <Scunizi> ok.. thanks
[01:02] <Scunizi> Also had to do a apt-get autoremove for some of the extra packages.
[02:23] <cmwslw> i have multiple subdomains on my home server
[02:23] <cmwslw> i used to keep the subdomain files in different folders in /var/web
[02:24] <cmwslw> is this a normal place to keep it?
[03:22] <Plecebo> I have a server using software raid in a esata enclosure. I physically moved the location of the server and the enclosure and now my raid array is resyncing am I loosing data?
[03:39] <Italian_Plumber> http://pastebin.com/Z5DaVRvL <-- can't kill samba ... any ideas?
[03:52] <qman__> Italian_Plumber, kill -9
[03:53] <qman__> if that doesn't work, the only way I know of is rebooting
[03:55] <Italian_Plumber> :) thanks...  I tried that and it seemst o have worked.
[04:15] <harrison> does anyone know how to connect wirelessly via CLI?
[04:18] <KurtKraut> harrison, this is constantly asked here. I didn't find yet a wiki/tutorial/howto about that. If you find, please, tell me so  I'll be able to answer other people.
[04:25] <harrison> http://blog.tplus1.com/index.php/2008/06/13/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-from-the-ubuntu-command-line/
[04:25] <harrison> there is the link
[04:26] <KurtKraut> harrison, did it work for you? Can I recommend this link?
[04:27] <harrison> yes
[04:30] <MTecknology> What's some really amazing thing about Ubuntu that I could use in a report?
[04:31] <MTecknology> What he says is "Give an "Oh Wow" fact about the project."
[04:32] <qman__> MTecknology, the best features of ubuntu over other linux distros aren't "oh wow" things
[04:32] <harrison>  over windows?
[04:33] <MTecknology> in general
[04:33] <qman__> in my opinion, Ubuntu's best feature is the simplified nature of the total package
[04:34] <qman__> it gets a lot of it from the debian upstream, but then ubuntu picks a well-thought out subset and puts it together nicely, very little work required
[04:34] <MTecknology> I was thinking something like, 50 billion people contributed to it
[04:35] <KurtKraut> harrison, thanks
[04:35] <MTecknology> That is true though - it puts together an awesome default setup
[04:35] <qman__> I guess the crowning moment for me was when they added the LAMP tasksel
[04:35] <qman__> one check box for a working web server
[04:36] <MTecknology> and now tasksel is going away....
[04:36] <MTecknology> :(
[04:36] <qman__> what's it being replaced with?
[04:36] <MTecknology> So far I've heard nothing
[04:36] <MTecknology> aptitude is being removed from the default install too
[04:40] <qman__> I always use apt-get anyway
[04:40] <qman__> I know aptitude offers more features but old habits die hard
[04:40] <qman__> it IS kind of silly to include both in the default install
[04:41] <qman__> but tasksel is one of the best features of ubuntu server
[04:41] <qman__> if they don't replace it with something they're seriously hurting it
[04:42] <MTecknology> qman__: indeed
[04:50] <harrison> qman__ what is tasksel?
[04:51] <qman__> harrison, `sudo tasksel` and see
[04:51] <harrison> okay
[04:52] <qman__> it also runs near the end of a ubuntu server install
[04:54] <harrison> That is something to remember
[04:54] <harrison> what is an edubuntu server?
[04:56] <silentwhisper> HI
[04:57] <harrison> hello
[04:58] <twb> !edubuntu > ubottu
[04:58] <twb> Oops
[04:58] <twb> !edubuntu > harrison
[04:58] <twb> harrison: try "/msg ubottu foo" when you want to know "what is foo?"
[04:58] <silentwhisper> how are you
[04:59] <harrison> fine
[04:59] <silentwhisper> are you a system admin?
[05:00] <harrison> I will try that but what I wanted to know, does edubuntu have a server-client system?
[05:00] <harrison> Silentwhisper no I am not, someday maybe.
[05:00] <silentwhisper> sorry, i have no idea
[05:01] <silentwhisper> why you're here?
[05:01] <silentwhisper> what is your careeer now?
[05:02] <harrison> Homeschool student.
[05:02] <silentwhisper> This is a great start for you
[05:02] <silentwhisper> i'm here to learn and shift career
[05:02] <harrison> in what way?
[05:03] <silentwhisper> i hope i could do that a short span of time
[05:03] <harrison> What administer a server?
[05:03] <silentwhisper> i would like to learn about server admin
[05:04] <harrison> I mostly browse the forum how-to's to learn how to install vsftpd and samba and the sort.
[05:05] <harrison> kylenet.dyndns.org is my server.
[05:06] <silentwhisper> vsftpd to transfer files?
[05:07] <harrison> yes it's a ftp server.
[05:09] <silentwhisper> samba to host files?
[05:09] <silentwhisper> were you able to finish the installation
[05:09] <silentwhisper> ?
[05:09] <silentwhisper> what do you want to accomplish now?
[05:09] <harrison> yes
[05:10] <silentwhisper> where are the files?
[05:10] <harrison> I have it setup on my parents computer, it runs win 7 and it works well.
[05:12] <Nonpython> I want to use postfix to, instead of having a unix account for each address, use LDAP to manage the users. Is there a guide for this?
[05:12] <harrison> What's postfix?
[05:12] <Nonpython> MTA.
[05:14] <harrison> It's 12:14 EST time for bed. (thats in Quebec, Canada)
[05:15] <silentwhisper> what is the url for your files
[05:31] <silentwhisper> where is your fileserver?
[05:36] <silentwhisper> nowadays what are the skills i should learn a system admin?
[05:36] <silentwhisper> as a system admin
[06:01] <Nonpython> What form does Postfix want LDAP users in?
[06:33] <Nonpython> No matter what form I put the password in, ldap stuff gives "ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)".
[06:38] <twb> Nonpython: is the LDAP server slapd on lucid?
[06:40] <Nonpython> yes
[06:40] <twb> On the server, does "slapcat" work?  Does "ss -lp" report that slapd is listening to the appropriate port?
[06:41] <twb> If so, then try to use "ldapsearch -x" on the server.
[06:41] <twb> Probably ldapsearch -x -H ldap://127.0.0.1/
[06:43] <Nonpython> Slapcat does not work. ss -lp reports that slapd is running on port 24726.
[06:46] <twb> What does slapcat say?
[06:46] <Nonpython> Nothing.
[06:47] <Nonpython> I am just running "slapcat". No arguments.
[06:47] <twb> What is its exit status?
[06:50] <Nonpython> 127.
[06:50] <twb> That is "command not found"
[06:50] <twb> You should be getting an error message from your shell -- you should investigate that sometime.
[06:50] <twb> Are you running slapcat as root?
[06:51] <Nonpython> Lawl. That was from a typo.
[06:51] <Nonpython> Really it is 0.
[06:53] <twb> OK; do you have any evidence that there are any objects in your LDAP database?
[06:56] <Nonpython> no
[07:03] <twb> I think your LDAP is working but you don't have any objects
[07:10] <Nonpython> How do I get some?
[07:16] <twb> ldapadd
[08:37] <Nonpython> I have 2 virtual hosts. One works, and one shows the same content as the other one, which is not right. What is wrong?
[08:41] <twb> By "virtual hosts" do you mean apache vhosting?
[08:50] <Nonpython> yes
[08:51] <twb> I don't do apache, sorry
[09:01] <larsemil> twb: i got that error when having apache read the config files in the wrong order. so i renamed the other one to 00_name and that solved the problem. its about having a default one i guess.
[09:33] <trinkity__> hi all
[09:33] <trinkity__> i need help with shorewall. Is possible log mac address with masquerading?
[09:46] <someuser> hello! need help with UUIDs: i have 3 partitions on my disk, sda1, sda2 (primary) and sda5 (extended). now, for some unknown reason sda5 suddenly has no UUID and I can't mount it anymore. How to create a new UUID and attach it to sda5?
[09:47] <twb> Depends on the filesystem
[09:47] <twb> What does "sudo blkid /dev/sda5" say?
[09:48] <someuser> its ext4
[09:48] <twb> What's the whole line?
[09:48] <someuser> no result for blkid /dev/sda5
[09:49] <twb> That doesn't make sense
[09:49] <someuser> blkid gives me result only for sda1 and sda2
[09:49] <twb> What does "sudo file -s /dev/sda5" say?
[09:50] <someuser> "/dev/sda5: Minix filesystem
[09:51] <someuser> e2fsck -f says that filesystem is clean
[09:53] <twb> You've fucked up your filesystem somehow
[09:53] <someuser> what I have already tried is tune2fs -U random /dev/sda5, but that didn't yield any result for me
[09:54] <twb> What is the filesystem type for sda5 in the partition table?
[09:54] <twb> IIRC it should be 83 for ext
[09:54] <someuser> but how? only users with limited right are working on the system, I didn't touch anything for at least a month or two :(
[09:54] <twb> I don't know
[09:55] <someuser> how can I get this what you need? (83)
[09:56] <twb> I would probably run "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda"
[09:57] <someuser> write new partition table? will all data then be lost?
[09:58] <twb> That will *inspect* the partition table
[09:58] <twb> Make a backup of it first if you're really paranoid
[09:59] <someuser> aha, no. I'm not that paranoid :)
[10:00] <someuser> well, i'm in cfdisk, all partitions are listed
[10:00] <twb> And what type does it list for sda5?
[10:01] <someuser> sda1 (swap),sda2 (root, ext3) and sda5 (extended, ext3) (sry!, its ext3 after all)
[10:02] <someuser> sda5 is listed as logical ext3, linux
[10:02] <twb> That's what it SHOULD say
[10:02] <twb> I don't know what you've done to this box that it can't see it in file -s and  blkid
[10:04] <someuser> this is computer of my aunt, she has 3 children and some of them must have done something. but they all have limited user accounts, what they can do?!
[10:04] <someuser> all is there except UUID
[10:06] <someuser> when I run 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid' only sda1 and sda2 are listed
[10:10] <silentwhisper> sir twb i was able to setup webserver and mail server quit and dirty
[10:10] <silentwhisper> what else should i learn in maintaining server?
[10:11] <trinkity__> anyone can help me with shorewall? I need log macaddress of all my packet
[10:16] <twb> someuser: /dev/disk/by-uuid won't see tune2fs changes until you restart udev
[10:17] <twb> trinkity__: try #shorewall
[10:17] <someuser> i did shutdown -r now
[10:18] <someuser> but still no changes
[10:42] <someuser> twb: i did it on the old way, with /dev/sda5 instead of UUID in fstab. but still no explanation while UUID is suddenly missing. I will do the upgrade to 10.04 and hope that upgrade process will notice that UUID is missing and generate a new one for me. thank you for your help!
[11:35] <MmikeDOMA> How do I run installation in text mode? i'm trying to install server on remote HP server using the ILO interface that I can access only via ssh, but as soon as installCD boots up it goes to graphics mode. Is there a way to circumvent that?
[11:35] <twb> MmikeDOMA: boot with fb=false
[11:36] <twb> Unless you're using 10.04, in which case you're fucked due to a bug in the server CD.
[11:36] <twb> (Serial also works, as long as there's no graphics card installed.)
[11:39] <MmikeDOMA> twb, i'm using 10.04. as soon as i get ISOLINUX booting message it goes to fb
[11:39] <MmikeDOMA> so I'm fucked
[11:40] <MmikeDOMA> Neat :)
[11:40] <twb> MmikeDOMA: you can either preseed past it and do the install over ssh, roll your own CD, or netboot
[11:41] <twb> Or do a d-i-less install from an existing unix system
[11:41] <trinkity__> in try in channel #shorewall but nothing help for me
[11:41] <trinkity__> i need log mac address in shorewall log
[11:42] <MmikeDOMA> twb: problem is that ILO remcons won't let me press any keys because it's in graphics mode. It tells me to use web graphics interface which I can't because ILO adapter is on private network, i used ssh port-forwarding to access it. And I don't have hands on site.
[11:42] <MmikeDOMA> Oh, well.
[11:42] <twb> MmikeDOMA: yeah, I hate that stuff with a passion
[11:42] <MmikeDOMA> I'm begining to grow a passion for that hate these days, yes.
[11:42] <twb> At least your LOM actually supported direct ssh
[11:43] <twb> Most of the routers and loms I get thrown at ONLY support some goddamn activex-based web UI
[11:44] <MmikeDOMA> Maybe there is a way to fool the java applet
[11:44] <twb> MmikeDOMA: I assume you're nowhere near the machine?
[11:45] <MmikeDOMA> twb, 2 hours drive. I'll be there tomorrow but I wanted to prepup from home.
[11:45] <MmikeDOMA> And I'm not going there now.
[11:45] <twb> Nod.
[11:45] <twb> Can you boot the host off PXE?
[11:47] <MmikeDOMA> Nope.
[11:47] <MmikeDOMA> But, would the installCD recognize the serial console if attached?
[11:47] <twb> It'll support it, but you'll need to pass parameters via the VGA console first :-(
[11:48] <twb> (You need to do that for 8.04, too, it's just I assumed you could type that blind.)
[11:49] <MmikeDOMA> Gnj!
[11:50] <MmikeDOMA> So, the only thing I'm left to is making java applet to connect trough the ssh-forwarded connectio
[11:50] <twb> Good luck
[11:51] <MmikeDOMA> Why does a server install CD goes to framebuffer anyway?
[11:51] <MmikeDOMA> Because of a fancier look?
[11:51] <Jeeves_> MmikeDOMA: That's a very good question.
[11:51] <Jeeves_> It broke stuff for much people
[11:52] <Jeeves_> And has no use
[11:53] <twb> MmikeDOMA: just to piss me off
[11:53] <twb> that's the ONLY reason
[11:53] <twb> The whole world is against me
[11:58] <kim0> Hi server guys. Remember that little django app for celebrating the 10.04.1 release I mentioned yesterday. Can anyone provide me a publically reachable VM to test it on (don't wanna waste time waiting for IS)
[11:59] <Jeeves_> twb: Ehm, but we agree with you! :)
[12:00] <MmikeDOMA> twb, i'm with you too ;)
[12:00] <twb> The fact that plymouth is a required part of ubuntu-minimal, and that even with "splash" removed from the boot parameters, it's still *running*, is enough of a turn-off that everyone in my office is turning to one another and saying "so, remind me, why did we switch to Ubuntu again?"
[12:01] <Jeeves_> Yes
[12:01] <Jeeves_> implementing plymouth was stupid, and useless.
[12:01] <Jeeves_> And they did it in an LTS release
[12:01] <Jeeves_> which isn't supposed to be usefull at all!
[12:02] <twb> And because i915 is enabled by default, my cheapo VGA-only LCD monitors chop off the leftmost column on the tty, so I have to spend five minutes every other day pissing about with their horizontal alignment.  The old 80x25 default was big enough that it wasn't noticable.
[12:03] <twb> The other one that has screwed me hard so far is the race conditions in upstart/mountall when booting from NFS
[12:04] <twb> To "fix" it I had to change mountall-net.conf to just "killall -USR1 mountall" every tenth of a second, forever
[12:05] <MmikeDOMA> Where does one report a bug for ubuntu-server? Same place as for desktop?
[12:05] <twb> MmikeDOMA: launchpad somewhere
[12:06] <twb> Try "BROWSER=w3m apport-bug" or so
[12:06] <twb> https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface is useful
[12:13] <a_ok> wat is the recomended way to add and configure a bridge at boot?
[12:14] <Jeeves_> add a br0 in /etc/network/interfaces/
[12:14] <Jeeves_> add a br0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:14] <twb> Unless you're using libvirt, in which case it probably shits over that and does it internally
[12:14] <Jeeves_> No it doesn't
[12:14] <twb> I stand corrected
[12:15] <twb> I just remember installing it somewhere and going "aah, wtf are you doing to my configuration?!" before going back to invoking qemu by hand.
[12:16] <Jeeves_> Hmm, never had that
[12:16] <a_ok> Jeeves_: will it also create the bridge and add the proper intefaces to it???
[12:17] <twb> a_ok: brctl's package has a supplementary manpage for interfaces(5) that makes it very clear
[12:17] <a_ok> twb: by default libvirt should not do anything with bridging as it is optional
[12:17] <Jeeves_> If you configure it correct, yes :)
[12:17] <Jeeves_> !pastebin
[12:17] <a_ok> twb: ah thanks!
[12:17] <Jeeves_> a_ok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470214/
[12:17] <twb> apt-get install bridge-utils; man 5 bridge-utils-interfaces
[12:18] <a_ok> that should teach me to prefere google over manpages
[12:30] <a_ok> Jeeves_: those are some sensable defaults, verry nice
[12:52] <sommer> morning all
[12:53] <AndyGraybeal> morning sommer  :)
[12:53] <AndyGraybeal> sommer: are you in EST?
[12:54] <sommer> yeppers :-)
[12:54] <AndyGraybeal> same here, just got to work.
[12:54] <sommer> oh ya starting the day, heh
[12:55] <AndyGraybeal> i'm gonna go find some coffee
[13:00] <MmikeDOMA> twb, I did it!
[13:00] <MmikeDOMA> twb, i needed to port-forward port 23 from my homebox to the ILO adapter
[13:00] <MmikeDOMA> and now i have the neaty-neat graphical display of a ubuntu server install
[13:01] <MmikeDOMA> stupid!
[13:01] <twb> MmikeDOMA: you should post it on your blog or whatever
[13:02] <twb> So that the next guy can google and work it out
[13:02] <MmikeDOMA> Sure thing
[13:05] <twb> Just to be clear: you're *reverse* forwarding 23 back to the ilo host?
[13:06] <MmikeDOMA> twb: yes. I opened 23 on localhost and ssh-tunneled it to 23 on the ilo
[13:09] <disposable> does anybody know of an isp control panel that doesn't need postfix/apache2/bind to be locally installed?
[13:10] <_ruben> directadmin
[13:12] <disposable> _ruben: it's for a charity so it needs to be free
[13:22] <zul> morning
[13:23] <smoser> kirkland, here now if are
[13:23] <smoser> good morning mr zul
[13:23] <kirkland> smoser: sup?
[13:23] <zul> hey smoser
[13:23] <smoser> responding to ping about bug 610134 which i see you fix-commited.
[13:23] <kirkland> smoser: oh, i was just asking about your byobu bug
[13:24] <kirkland> smoser: yeah, it's fixed, such that you can use byobu -S ... to name your sessions
[13:24] <kirkland> smoser: however, byobu-select-session only looks for sessions that start with byobu*
[13:24] <smoser> i think thats reasonable
[13:24] <kirkland> smoser: which should only affect you if you ssh into a system with multiple running byobu sessions, and you want to choose one
[13:25] <kirkland> smoser: if you name your session byobu -S smoser, it won't appear in the list
[13:25] <smoser> yeah. hmm.., but one thing that would stnk about that.
[13:25] <smoser> if i had byobu by default enabled
[13:26] <smoser> and created a session with 'dev'. the select then wouldn't show it to me.
[13:26] <smoser> and may possibly not be able to attach at all when ssh'ing in
[13:26] <kirkland> smoser: away for 5minutes, in a 1:1
[13:26] <smoser> i guess i could work around with ssh -t bash, then byobu -d -r
[13:47] <AndyGraybeal> is it possible for me to have 3 lvm volume groups on 1 physical volume?
[13:54] <qman__> AndyGraybeal, maybe, but why? you can just use one volume group and create as many volumes in it as you want
[13:57] <kirkland> smoser: i could also force a byobu- in front of your "dev" when you do byobu -S dev
[13:57] <kirkland> smoser: but i felt that might be rude
[13:58] <smoser> yeah, i was going to suggest that.
[13:58] <smoser> it may or may not be all that rude
[13:58] <smoser> screen -d -r 'dev'
[13:58] <smoser> would still attach
[13:58] <smoser> it does matching
[13:59] <mathiaz> zul: hey!
[13:59] <mathiaz> zul: what's the state of https://code.launchpad.net/~mathiaz/server-sru-tracker/visual-improvements/+merge/29329?
[14:00] <kirkland> smoser: oh?  cool....
[14:00] <kirkland> zul: mathiaz: morning guys
[14:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: o/
[14:01] <mathiaz> kirkland: how is the east coast doing?
[14:01] <kirkland> mathiaz: it's very, um, liberal :-)
[14:01] <mathiaz> kirkland: :)
[14:01] <kirkland> mathiaz: :-)
[14:01] <zul> hi kik
[14:01] <smoser> i'm wrong, kirkland
[14:02] <zul> kirkland even
[14:02] <zul> mathiaz: once i get it unbroken ill let yo know :)
[14:02] <smoser> it must match to the beginning only
[14:03] <smoser> which means you could change your selection to match at the end.
[14:03] <smoser> and always append .byobu
[14:03] <smoser> so that select would show all byobu sessions (searching by appending .byobu)
[14:03] <smoser> s/appending/ending/ ^
[14:04] <AndyGraybeal> qman__: thankj you for the response, i just came to the same conclusion a second ago after reading more.
[14:04] <smoser> bug 574910 is getting bad.
[14:05] <kirkland> smoser: sweet, that sounds perfect
[14:05] <smoser> you should, of course, test my assertions.
[14:05] <smoser> :)
[14:14] <ttx> smoser, kirkland: about bug 574910, is it EC2-specific ? Or does it also affect UEC images / classic servers ?
[14:15] <smoser> i was just thinking that.
[14:15] <smoser> i have no idea on non-ec2
[14:15] <smoser> but there is suggestion that it might be larger. i have no data at all about non-ec2.
[14:15] <kirkland> ttx: unfortunately in our testing, we don't generally leave uec-instances run for very long
[14:16] <kirkland> ttx: "does it respond on ssh?  if yes: terminate;  if no: mark test failed"
[14:16] <ttx> kirkland: could be good to compare some idle load
[14:16] <ttx> I'm pretty sure it's EC2/linux-ec2 specific
[14:17] <jiboumans> sounds like something we could integrate in our tests though
[14:17] <ttx> That last comment may be orthogonal to the issue, but talks about VirtualBox
[14:17] <Jinxed-> what is good to use for an ftp server with ubuntu?
[14:17] <smoser> ttx, yeah, its becoming a metabug
[14:18] <zatricky> Hey guys. Is there an easy way to figure out when last a disk was fsck'd?
[14:18] <ttx> smoser: the "virtualization sucks" metabug ?
[14:18] <smoser> but there is one other bug linked there about way-too-frequent wakeups that could cause such things.
[14:18] <smoser> more "performance on lucid sucks" metabug
[14:18] <kirkland> jiboumans: agreed;  we could run some long tests over the weekend, when the rig isn't doing anything else
[14:18] <smoser> i've just started testing something here.
[14:19] <smoser> I fired up A.) lucid image B.) lucid image with karmic kernel and ramdisk
[14:19] <smoser> on each, I am running
[14:19] <smoser> while : ; do read r < /proc/loadavg; echo "$(date): ${r}"; sleep 10 || break; done | tee log.txt
[14:19] <smoser> the goal of whic his to see if simply swapping the kernel makes the loadavg reporting go away.
[14:21] <Jinxed-> What can I use for a ftp server, apparently filezilla doesn't have the server for ubuntu
[14:21] <ttx> I haven't seen clues to a general lucid issue. But it might indeed be a common issue that has more visible consequences in virtualized hosts
[14:21] <jiboumans> zatricky: tune2fs can set that time, so it probably has a way to read it as well
[14:21] <ttx> Jinxed-: vsftpd ?
[14:21] <smoser> so far, the lucid kernel is definitely showing spikes.
[14:21] <zatricky> thanks, jiboumans. looking into that, will post result
[14:22] <Jinxed-> ttx, will give it a try
[14:22] <Jinxed-> thanks
[14:23] <ScottK> SpamapS: Thanks for looking into the php5 patches for Kolab.  Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
[14:24] <jiboumans> zatricky: yeah, tune2fs -l /dev/xxx
[14:25] <jiboumans> zatricky: Last checked:             Sat May 15 00:54:20 2010 # on one of my boxes
[14:25] <zatricky> cool. Just got tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | grep Last\ checked, gives a similar result
[14:25] <zatricky> thanks, jiboumans
[14:25] <jiboumans> my pleasure
[14:39] <Jinxed-> what is a simple GUI based ftp server I could use
[14:40] <RoyK> Jinxed-: gui????
[14:41] <RoyK> a server isn't gui based
[14:41] <RoyK> vsftpd is a good ftp server, though, and quite simple to configure
[14:41] <RoyK> !webmin
[14:41] <RoyK> !ebox
[14:42] <RoyK> ebox can probably (or possibly) help you configure vsftpd
[14:42] <Jinxed-> So if I get rid of pure-ftp and pure-ftp admin and get wsftp with ebox
[14:42] <Jinxed-> the pure-ftp admin only had configuration for users etc
[14:42] <Jinxed-> I want to know how I can connect with a filezilla client
[14:42] <Jinxed-> and it doesn't seem to work
[14:43] <RoyK> vsftpd, not ws
[14:43] <Jinxed-> ok
[14:43] <RoyK> vs = very secure [sic]
[14:43] <RoyK> it's probably the most used ftp server on the planet, so I guess it's rather secure
[14:43] <RoyK> Jinxed-: just public ftp, or private users as well?
[14:45] <Jinxed-> RoyK, I just want to have ftp on a private network that would allow for both public and private users
[14:45] <RoyK> ok
[14:46] <RoyK> out of curiosity, why use ftp on a private network?
[14:46] <Jinxed-> eh... RoyK there are alot of different options for ebox
[14:46] <RoyK> why not cifs or nfs?
[14:46] <RoyK> Jinxed-: it's probably just as easy to configure vsftpd in the config file
[14:46] <Jinxed-> 1.) I don't know what those are. 2.) I like ftp :)
[14:46] <RoyK> Jinxed-: are the PCs on linux or windows?
[14:47] <RoyK> or mac
[14:47] <Jinxed-> linux/windows
[14:47] <RoyK> for the windows machines, run samba - that'll work with linux as well
[14:47] <RoyK> just install samba, configure the shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf and you're done
[14:47] <Jinxed-> shares suck
[14:47] <RoyK> why?
[14:47] <Jinxed-> Im locked out 70% of the time
[14:48] <RoyK> that shouldn't happen
[14:48] <RoyK> we're running samba on a 200 user network - it works
[14:48] <RoyK> for the linux machines, you might want NFS, but then, SMB/CIFS works with linux as well
[14:49] <Jinxed-> yeah... it seems to work well when i use ip addresses
[14:49] <Jinxed-> but not when I use the network name
[14:49] <RoyK> do you have a windows server in there as well?
[14:50] <Jinxed-> nope
[14:50] <Jinxed-> Im just running
[14:50] <Jinxed-> ubuntu (desktop edition)
[14:50] <RoyK> ok, setup samba as a windows NT domain controller and it'll just work
[14:51] <Jinxed-> ehhh how would i do that
[14:51] <Jinxed-> :)
[14:51] <RoyK> http://tinyurl.com/34fpthl
[14:57] <pmatulis> he he
[14:57] <Jinxed-> not very nice
[14:57] <harrison> How do I install a printer via the command line?
[14:57] <Jinxed-> :?
[14:57] <Jinxed-> ask roy -> lmgtfy -> " How do I install a printer via the command line"
[14:58] <RoyK> :)
[14:58] <RoyK> harrison: I think that's covered in the CUPS docs, though I haven't done it for years
[14:58] <harrison> Where would I find the CUPS docs?
[14:59] <pmatulis> lmgtfy
[14:59] <pmatulis> not
[15:00] <ivoks> zul: do you have any idea how to solve that thing with bacula?
[15:01] <ivoks> zul: predepend is what we want, but not going to do it :)
[15:01] <zul> ivoks: no idea but that predepends is what i really want to do :)
[15:02] <ivoks> me too
[15:02] <zul> sooooo.....whats stoping us? :)
[15:03] <ivoks> i doubt that someone will like that solution :)
[15:03] <RoyK> harrison: this was the first hit from google http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Setting_Up_a_Network_Printer_using_CUPS
[15:03] <ivoks> network printer?
[15:04] <harrison> yes
[15:04] <ivoks> it's really easy
[15:04] <RoyK> smb or ipp?
[15:04] <ivoks> you need to change two lines in one file
[15:04] <harrison> The diference?
[15:04] <ivoks> in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[15:04] <ivoks> Listen localhost:631
[15:04] <ivoks> to:
[15:04] <ivoks> Listen 631
[15:05] <ivoks> Browsing Off
[15:05] <ivoks> to:
[15:05] <ivoks> Browing On
[15:05] <ivoks> restart cups and that's it
[15:05] <ivoks> Browsing, obviously
[15:06] <ivoks> on all other mac and linux machines, printer will automagicaly apear by it self
[15:06] <ivoks> no drivers, no configuring, nothing
[15:06] <harrison> What is the diference betwean SMB (samba) and IPP?
[15:06] <ivoks> on windows, you'll need to add them manualy
[15:06] <harrison> okay.
[15:06] <ivoks> IPP is printing protocol, SMB is file sharing
[15:06] <ivoks> and can be misused for printing :)
[15:07] <harrison> i.e exploited?
[15:07] <ivoks> but whoever tells you that SMB printer is on server, he doesn't understand meaning of the expression printer server
[15:08] <ivoks> harrison: no, windows use SMB for printing
[15:08] <RoyK> harrison: not really, it works that way too. also, samba can be used to distribute printer drivers
[15:08] <harrison> If I have Samba installed do I need anything else?
[15:08] <RoyK> ivoks: a windoze or samba server can be setup as a spooler, but not really a print server
[15:08] <ivoks> RoyK: right, clients do the processing
[15:08] <RoyK> yeah
[15:09] <RoyK> harrison: just setup a cups printer and configure samba to use that, sharing it with a samba share
[15:09] <ivoks> he can use ipp on windows too
[15:09] <ivoks> no need for samba
[15:09] <ivoks> and to complicated
[15:09] <ivoks> too
[15:09] <RoyK> imho it's easier for windoze users to browse printers with smb
[15:10] <RoyK> I don't think you can add IPP printers from a login script either
[15:10] <RoyK> when in rome ...
[15:11] <smoser> ccheney, ping
[15:11] <smoser> or maybe kirkland or Daviey can help. i think i need to install a maverick uec.
[15:11] <smoser> and am interested in the automation goodness.
[15:12] <ivoks> zul: the only problem is...
[15:12] <ivoks> zul: bacula doesn't really depend on local mysql/pgsql server :D
[15:13] <zul> yeah i know..
[15:13] <zul> stupd dbconfig
[15:13] <ivoks> it's not dbconfig's fault
[15:13] <ivoks> it's apt
[15:13] <harrison> in ubuntu desktop, I have to go to system -> admin -> printing and configure the printer there, in ubuntu server is it audo detected?
[15:14] <RoyK> harrison: no, you'll need to add it manually to cups
[15:14] <ivoks> harrison: it's http://localhost:631
[15:14] <harrison> how?
[15:14] <harrison> Whats at http://localhost:631?
[15:14] <RoyK> cups config
[15:14] <harrison> Ahh
[15:15] <harrison> if my server is at the url kylenet.dyndns.org should I subsitute localhost for the url?
[15:15] <ivoks> if you replaces localhost:631 with 631 in cupsd.conf, then yes
[15:15] <ivoks> replaced
[15:16] <harrison> i did
[15:16] <RoyK> and restarted cups?
[15:16] <ivoks> well, if you are accessing from non-localhost machines
[15:16] <ivoks> you'll have to allow access
[15:16] <harrison> *slaps head* I forgot to restart CUPS!
[15:17] <harrison> How do I do that?
[15:17] <ivoks> service cups restart
[15:17] <harrison> okay
[15:18] <harrison> just to tell you add sudo to that command.
[15:18] <harrison> still didn't work?
[15:18] <harrison> *.
[15:20] <ivoks> of course you'll restart services as root
[15:21] <ivoks> i don't find it neccessery to tell you that
[15:21] <harrison> good thing I read error meseges.
[15:21] <RoyK> I just tried 'allow from 81.191.180.x' (my IP) where order deny allow was set, still can't access it.....
[15:21] <harrison> How do I allow access?
[15:22] <harrison> What part of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf do I add my desktop to?
[15:22] <ivoks> RoyK: try Deny from none
[15:25] <ivoks> harrison: just add ServerAlias *
[15:25] <ivoks> harrison: at the end of the file
[15:26] <harrison> it did something now I get the error 403 fobidin.
[15:26] <harrison> *somewhere
[15:26] <ivoks> add Allow from all
[15:27] <harrison> Where?
[15:27] <ivoks> to each <Location>
[15:27] <ivoks> there are only 3 of them
[15:27] <harrison> do I deleat the deny part?
[15:28] <ivoks> you have a deny part?
[15:28] <harrison> <Location /> Order allow,deny
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[15:28] <harrison> that is a copy past
[15:28] <harrison> *paste
[15:29] <ivoks> that's ordering
[15:29] <harrison> of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[15:29] <ivoks> don't delete it
[15:29] <ivoks> have you ever configured apache?
[15:29] <harrison> Not realy.
[15:29] <RoyK> order allow,deny shouldn't deny anything access unless it's explicitly denied
[15:29] <ivoks> RoyK: i'm not sure what defaults are
[15:30] <RoyK> ivoks: order allow,deny will allow anything that's not explicitly denied
[15:30] <ivoks> RoyK: maybe, if unspecified, deny is always from all
[15:30] <RoyK> order deny,allow is used when you want to restrict access
[15:30] <ivoks> RoyK: and allow is from localhost
[15:30] <RoyK> I've only used Apache for 10 years or so, but I'm quite positive order allow,deny allows everything
[15:31] <RoyK> seems they have done something 'smart' in there
[15:31] <ivoks> RoyK: true, but for apache, if i don't specify anything, i want it to be available to everyone
[15:32] <ivoks> RoyK: in cups, if i don't specify anything, i want it to be forbidden for everyone :)
[15:32] <RoyK> sure, but then, order deny,allow should be the one used
[15:32] <ivoks> RoyK: order allow,deny is just ordering
[15:32] <ivoks> RoyK: what's important is what's allowed and what's denied
[15:32] <ivoks> RoyK: and this could be different, by default, for cups
[15:32] <RoyK> that's what I'm trying to say...
[15:32] <ivoks> RoyK: in apache, default deny is none, and allow is all
[15:33] <ivoks> RoyK: it could be that for cups, default is deny all, allow localhost
[15:33] <ivoks> but i'm just guessing
[15:33] <RoyK> that doesn't make sense - there's no default deny or allow AFAIK, just the order
[15:34] <RoyK> order deny,allow says 'everything is denied unless explicitly allowed'
[15:36] <harrison> I still want to know where to put allow from all. ;)
[15:39] <ivoks> under location
[15:39] <ivoks> i've told you that already
[15:39] <ivoks> don't delete anything, just add
[15:39] <harrison> above the alow deny?
[15:39] <harrison> or below?
[15:39] <harrison> does it matter?
[15:39] <ivoks> no
[15:39] <harrison> okay
[15:40] <harrison> IT WORKS!
[15:44] <harrison> Thank you ivoks and RoyK that helped a lot.
[15:48] <trapmax> i'm trying to create an lvm-snapshot. my machine just gets stuck there. here's the kern.log http://pastebin.com/KUzVGZSQ
[15:58] <RoyK> trapmax: looks bad
[15:58] <RoyK> like a deadlock between lvm and ext4? is that possible?
[16:04] <ttx> Daviey: are you on top of hggdh-detected UEC maverick regressions ?
[16:06] <smoser> ccheney, ping
[16:08] <zul> mathiaz: can you upload the fix for openldap to maverick as well?
[16:21] <sommer> zul: I was looking at creating an apport hook for spamassassin, and the spec mentions to collect email headers... just wondering how to go about that?
[16:21] <zul> sommer: im not sure...i didnt get that far :)
[16:22] <sommer> okay, I'll do some figurin, heh
[16:33] <mathiaz> zul: the openldap fix is not needed in maverick
[16:33] <zul> mathiaz: k thanks
[16:35] <ttx> Daviey: around ?
[16:47] <kirkland> ivoks: howdy
[16:48] <kirkland> ivoks: are you around?
[16:49] <ivoks> kirkland: yes
[16:49] <ivoks> kirkland: howdy :)
[16:54] <ccheney> smoser, hello whats up?
[16:55] <ccheney> smoser, i'm off today sick, fever keeps rising and is 102f so far, going in to the doctor once my father in law can take me
[16:55] <smoser> was wanting maverick uec install scripts
[16:55] <ccheney> smoser, its in the archive
[16:55] <smoser> rock on.
[16:56] <kirkland> ivoks: hey, i think mrjazzcat and hallyn
[16:56] <smoser> so apt-get install uec-provisioning-*
[16:56] <smoser> ?
[16:56] <ccheney> yes
[16:56] <ccheney> smoser, the dhcp part isn't done yet so do the dd-wrt method
[16:57] <ivoks> kirkland: mrjazzcat left couple of minutes ago
[16:57] <hallyn> kirkland: did you mean to finish that sentence?
[16:57] <ivoks> :)
[16:57] <hallyn> i'm here fwiw
[16:58] <kirkland> ivoks: hallyn: sorry ... we wanted to get a chat together :-)  let me track down mrjazzcat
[17:08] <smoser> kirkland, ccheney so is that availalbe anywhere for lucid ?
[17:08] <smoser> i've 3 boxes : stable lucid, 2 for cloud. would like to run install server on lucid.
[17:10] <AndyGraybeal> in fstab, the last two numbers in the lines, what does this mean?  i seem them being 0, 1, and 2.
[17:11] <AndyGraybeal> i found it on the web, nevermind
[17:18] <ccheney> smoser, not yet, i think it will probably work if force installed on lucid
[17:19] <ccheney> smoser, or locally rebuild with s/maverick/lucid/
[17:19] <smoser> gracias
[17:19]  * ccheney bbl, going to try to make it to the doctor now
[17:21] <ccheney> interesting my fever has dropped a full degree in the past hour
[17:21]  * ccheney wonders wtf is going on
[17:28] <hallyn> you forgot to stick the thermometer back in the boiling water :)
[17:50] <picard1421> hey i had a question about the enterprise cloud... is it possible to install Windows OS's as part of the cloud or are you limited to Linux Distros?
[17:50] <thesheff17> windows installs fine
[17:50] <thesheff17> at least windows xp
[17:52] <RoyK> picard1421: most windows OSes will install nicely
[17:52] <RoyK> even win311 on DOS should work
[17:53] <picard1421> the other question i had about cloud computing in general.. ... How "realisitic is it" i mean that in the sense.. if i have thinclients around the office.. how responsive will Installs be ETC?
[17:53] <thesheff17> picard1421 what kind of thin clients
[17:54] <thesheff17> picard1421 I have had people RDP into a virtual windows xp machine with no problem...they have no clue it is running a virtual machine
[17:55] <RoyK> picard1421: on a gigabit or even 100mbps lan, you won't notice much
[17:56] <picard1421> well it would be over LAN.. in the sense people would obviously on that note not know what is going on etc...
[17:56] <picard1421> but what about (in theory) gaming..
[17:57] <picard1421> i know the server could handle hte graphics and the processing.. but how about the "screen" transfer over the LAN
[17:57] <picard1421> i have also seen products like DVI over Ethernet
[17:57] <thesheff17> I don't think any good games work over any thin clients
[17:57] <picard1421> are those even worth it.. or is the LAN enough?
[17:58] <RoyK> gaming from a thin client isn't what you want
[17:58] <RoyK> office apps will work well
[17:59] <thesheff17> you will never get the same performance on video with cloud/thinclient then you will directly connected to the monitor
[18:17] <android60> I have a small home server mainly for file storage, should I keep the ubuntu os on a separate drive?
[18:18] <trappist> I have a rack app listening on port 8000.  after running for some time and handling a lot of traffic with no problem, suddenly port 8000 was responsive only to a small percentage of traffic...
[18:19] <trappist> even nmap showed it as filtered, and even from the local machine.  restarting the app didn't help, but rebooting the server did, so I'm thinking something in the kernel
[18:19] <trappist> there were no iptables rules - what else could it be?
[18:19] <trappist> I have 7 other servers in the same situation, and I'd rather figure out the actual problem than just reboot them all and wait for it to happen again
[18:25] <zul> sommer: i queued up your apport hook for openldap the next upload
[18:27] <smoser> hallyn, ping
[18:33] <sommer> zul: nice, thanks dude
[18:33] <zul> sommer: i just changed the refrences from ssh to slapd :)
[18:44] <sommer> oh, woops missed that one, heh
[18:55] <hggdh> Daviey: feeling adventurous?
[19:08] <alex88> hi guys, i'm trying to use apache with chroot, but i haven't get it working in hours..
[19:08] <alex88> i'm on ubuntu 10.04, so, installed libapache2-mod-chroot, enable, restarted apache, and still on vhosts it says that the directory not exists, i've set relative the chroot..is it right?
[19:14] <ivoks> alex88: have you enabled the module?
[19:14] <ivoks> oh, you did
[19:15] <ivoks> alex88: did you set ChrootDir in config?
[19:15] <alex88> ivoks: yes, and on start it says that document root not exist, using absolute path outside chroot works (just the start)
[19:15] <alex88> ivoks: yes, just under the pidfile, also linked
[19:15] <skydrome> how can i make 'pgrep apache2' return only 1 pid? instead of all of them?
[19:16] <ivoks> alex88: 'also linked'?
[19:16] <alex88> ivoks: yup, i'm searching the how-to i've followed
[19:16] <ivoks> alex88: what's your chrootdir?
[19:18] <alex88> /var/www
[19:18] <ivoks> and DocumentRoot?
[19:19] <alex88> well, i want something like /var/www/domain.com /var/www/domain2.com etc
[19:19] <alex88> so in virtualhost config i've set domain.com
[19:19] <ivoks>  /domain.com
[19:19] <alex88> yes sorry
[19:19] <ivoks> ok
[19:19] <alex88> domain.com looks in /etc/apache
[19:20] <ivoks> set it as /domain.com
[19:20] <alex88> it is
[19:20] <alex88> let me see, un second
[19:20] <ivoks> you've linked pid file and logs directory?
[19:20] <alex88> i'll check again
[19:21] <alex88> i've set logs inside user dir
[19:21] <ivoks> k
[19:21] <alex88> well, is /domain.com/www the documentroot and /domain.com/log the logs
[19:22] <andreserl> ttx, ping
[19:23] <alex88> ivoks: so, i've restored backup, now it has default virtualhost with fcgid for php
[19:23] <alex88> http://www.alexnetwork.it/
[19:24] <alex88> now, installing libapache2-mod-chroot
[19:24] <ivoks> 2.6.18-028stab067.4-ent
[19:24] <ivoks> ?
[19:24] <ivoks> that's not ubuntu :D
[19:25] <alex88> vps :)
[19:25] <alex88> ubuntu 10.04, trust me
[19:25] <ivoks> i know, i know
[19:25] <alex88> btw, installed, enabled
[19:26] <alex88> restart fine, site still works
[19:26] <ivoks> add chrootdir
[19:26] <ivoks> ChrootDir /var/www
[19:27] <ivoks> stop apache
[19:27] <alex88> edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf under PidFile ${APACHE_PID_FILE} added that line
[19:27] <ivoks> fix pid file
[19:29] <alex88> mkdir -p /var/www/var/run  chown -R root.root /var/www/var/run ln -s /var/www/var/run/apache2.pid /var/run/apache2.pid ?
[19:29] <ivoks> yes
[19:29] <alex88> done, start?
[19:29] <ivoks> yes
[19:30] <alex88> done, start with no errors (strange, it has to say /var/www/ not exists)
[19:30] <alex88> http://www.alexnetwork.it/ connection closed
[19:30] <alex88> btw i've done chown -R root:root not root.root
[19:31] <ivoks> and what's in error.log?
[19:31] <alex88> now i have to set document root of 000-default as / right?
[19:31] <ivoks> yes
[19:33] <alex88> http://pastebin.com/tWkKu8G3 something like this would be fine?
[19:33] <ivoks> yes
[19:33] <ivoks> but your apache isn't working
[19:34] <ivoks> at all
[19:34] <ivoks> check error.log
[19:35] <alex88> oh..errors on fcgid
[19:35] <alex88> i'll dismod for the moment
[19:35] <memoen> does anyone know what service takes care of logs?
[19:35] <memoen> because I have no message logs or boot logs
[19:35] <alex88> memoen: syslog
[19:36] <memoen> thanks alex88 :)
[19:36] <alex88> memoen: np
[19:36] <alex88> ivoks: (2)No such file or directory: could not open mime types config file /etc/mime.types
[19:36] <alex88> No such file or directory: Couldn't bind unix domain socket /var/run/apache2/cgisock.24464
[19:37] <ivoks> fcgi and chroot need additional fixing
[19:37] <ivoks> paths are different
[19:37] <alex88> this is after disabling fcgid
[19:37] <ivoks> disable fcgid
[19:37] <ivoks> /var/run/apache2/cgisock.24464
[19:37] <alex88> already done and restarted, those are message for next start
[19:37] <ivoks> that stinks like fcgid
[19:37] <ivoks> or cgi
[19:38] <alex88> removed cgid
[19:38] <alex88> http://pastebin.com/uCiagyaX
[19:39] <ivoks> stop apache
[19:39] <ivoks> check if apache process is running
[19:40] <alex88> ps -A | grep apache nothing, also netstat -tapn nothing
[19:40] <alex88> should /var/www be www-data owned?
[19:41] <ivoks> nope, that's irrelevant
[19:41] <ivoks> put LogLevel debug to config
[19:43] <alex88> http://pastebin.com/aGhkNyNa
[19:43] <matt_keys> I'm trying to set up pub key auth. I've done this hundreds of times before but never seen this. I created the pair (no password) w/ssh-keygen, then ssh-copy-id to the host i'm trying to connect to. all looks fine but when i try to use the identity file it asks for a password
[19:43] <matt_keys> anybody know what the deal is?
[19:43] <alex88> not much more
[19:44] <alex88> matt_keys: need to change sshd config to no accept password?
[19:45] <ivoks> alex88: don't know... it should work
[19:45] <alex88> ivoks: damn..
[19:45] <alex88> ivoks: thank you for your time
[19:46] <ivoks> np
[19:47] <matt_keys> alex88: RSAAuthentication yes and PubkeyAuthentication yes, AuthorizedKeysFile is commented (defaults)
[19:48] <aaditya> What's a reasonable amount of swap on a high-usage production server with 16GB RAM?
[19:49] <zul> whee openldap is fun
[19:49] <matt_keys> aaditya: depends on what you're running on it
[19:49] <alex88> ivoks: i'm asking on https, hope thay can help
[19:49] <matt_keys> aaditya : oracle, for example, has requirements for swap sizing
[19:53] <matt_keys> aaditya : old rule of thumb was 2x RAM. with 16gb ram I wouldn't do that though... 2048mb tops
[19:58] <binBASH> re
[20:03] <alex88> ivoks: you there?
[20:04] <ivoks> alex88: yes
[20:04] <alex88> ivoks: from 2.2.10 you don't need mod_chroot, everything works without mod, just add chrootdir to config.. -.-'
[20:05] <ivoks> :)
[20:05] <MagicFab> New question on Shapado: What's the most well-integrated monitoring solution on Ubuntu: Zenoss, Zabbix or Cacti(+nagios)?
[20:05] <alex88> now i just need to found the libcc file cause it says "libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work"
[20:05] <MagicFab> http://ubuntu.shapado.com/questions/what-s-the-most-well-integrated-monitoring-solution-on-ubuntu-zenoss-zabbix-or-cacti-+nagios
[20:06] <alex88> how to find a file? O.o
[20:07] <ivoks> apt-file search
[20:07] <ivoks> it's libgcc1
[20:07] <ivoks> that should be installed by default :)
[20:08] <alex88> it is, but maybe under chroot it can't find it
[20:08] <ivoks> or... more likly, it doesn't work with fcgi
[20:08] <alex88> it's disabled
[20:09] <alex88> now it's normal apache
[20:09] <alex88> mpm_worker
[20:09] <ivoks> hm
[20:09] <ivoks> try prefork
[20:10] <alex88> too slow for me, i'll try to leave it as is
[20:10] <alex88> now is time for suexec :)
[20:10] <aaditya> mattt: fair enough. So I believe it's safe to say that swap should never exceed 2GB.
[20:11] <aaditya> matt_keys is gone, nevermind.
[20:15] <ivoks> alex88: so
[20:15] <ivoks> alex88: if chroot is now supported by apache itself
[20:15] <ivoks> alex88: you don't need to fix pid file
[20:15] <ivoks> alex88: remove the link
[20:19] <kirkland> hallyn: how long does it take to build the eucalyptus liveiso/
[20:19] <kirkland> ?
[20:21] <alex88> ivoks: wait, i've added /var/www/alexnetwork/www/
[20:22] <alex88> DocumentRoot [/alexnetwork/www] does not exist
[20:22] <alex88> i've serious doubts about it, but apache will give errors if chrootdir option in config is rejected
[20:22] <alex88> don't know what to think
[20:24] <alex88> and now says "SuexecUserGroup directive requires SUEXEC wrapper."
[20:24] <ivoks> that's worker, right?
[20:25] <alex88> ivoks: true
[20:26] <ivoks> i think this is broken
[20:27] <alex88> okok, now it works..but it still says that my docroot isnt' there
[20:28] <alex88> now alexnetwork.it says forbidden
[20:28] <ivoks> apache is running?
[20:29] <ivoks> [Wed Jul 28 21:28:53 2010] [notice] child pid 23581 exit signal Aborted (6)
[20:29] <ivoks> libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work
[20:29] <ivoks> this is bad
[20:29] <alex88> yes it's running
[20:30] <zul> mathiaz: ping nssov seems to be broken with a newer gcc
[20:31] <alex88> ivoks: mod_fcgid: call /alexnetwork/www/index.php with wrapper /var/www/alexnetwork/php-cgi
[20:31] <alex88> suexec policy violation: see suexec log for more details
[20:33] <alex88> Exec format error: exec failed (php-cgi)
[20:33] <ivoks> i got it working with worker
[20:34] <ivoks> plain, default apache install
[20:34] <ivoks> and just this in /etc/apache2/conf.d/chroot:
[20:34] <ivoks> LoadFile /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
[20:34] <ivoks> ChrootDir /var/www
[20:34] <ivoks> edited /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[20:35] <ivoks> so that DocumentRoot points to /
[20:35] <ivoks> that's it.
[20:35] <alex88> sure? let me try to add LoadFile /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
[20:35] <ivoks> i'm sure :)
[20:36] <hallyn> kirkland: the eucalytpus liveiso took prolly 20-30 mins
[20:36] <hallyn> i couldn't do it in tmpfs (at 4G it called itself full)
[20:36] <alex88> ok working...
[20:36] <hallyn> which slowed it down :)
[20:36] <alex88> now, last thing i hope...
[20:37] <alex88> /bin/sh: Can't open php-cgi
[20:37] <alex88> the php-cgi is in the fcgid wrapper
[20:38] <ivoks> that's something else now
[20:38] <ivoks> you have working chrooted apache
[20:38] <ivoks> you'll have a hard time making fcgi working with chrooted apache
[20:38] <alex88> maybe it's because /usr/bin/php-cgi is unaccessible inside the chroot
[20:39] <ivoks> cause apache conects on request
[20:39] <ivoks> exactlly
[20:39] <kirkland> hallyn: what's the URL to that again?
[20:39] <ivoks> but... that's it from me for today
[20:39] <ivoks> good night
[20:39] <kirkland> hallyn: i think smoser might want to take a look at it
[20:40] <alex88> ivoks: good night, thanks for your time
[20:40] <hallyn> kirkland: people.canonical.com/~serge/binary.iso.lzma
[20:40] <kirkland> smoser: ^
[20:40] <smoser> what is this
[20:40] <hallyn> really the lzma was worthless here :)  shaved 8M off
[20:40] <kirkland> smoser: maverick live ISO with euca-everything installed
[20:40] <kirkland> hallyn: yeah, i meant to tell you that
[20:41] <smoser> well, id ont particularly want that. iw anted an insall to work :)
[20:41] <hallyn> smoser: then stop breaking them
[20:41] <hallyn> duh
[20:41] <kirkland> smoser: will probably need daviey to help sort that out
[20:41] <Jinxed-> How do I add a static route to something to an interface where vlan trunking is enabled
[20:41] <smoser> bloody wonderful.
[20:42] <hallyn> is that a subtle dig at our brittish companion?
[20:42] <hallyn> kirkland: have you run into any real problems yet?
[20:43] <kirkland> hallyn: well, it's not working yet, but i don't think it's due to image creation
[20:43] <kirkland> hallyn: it's probably just euca-2.0 borkage
[20:43] <kirkland> hallyn: but i need Daviey to confirm or deny that
[20:43] <kirkland> hallyn: as far as I'm concerned, it's looking okay;  can you drop the live-helper command you used into the blueprint?
[20:44] <hallyn> kirkland: yup
[20:44] <kirkland> hallyn: thanks, i'm going to leave it for now;  i've verified all the bits are there, and the cloud controller is listening
[20:44] <kirkland> hallyn: its friends eucalyptus-* are not yet registered and working
[20:45] <kirkland> hallyn: i'll drop an email to you and dave
[20:45] <hallyn> kthx
[20:46] <kirkland> hallyn: would you mind lzma -d'ing that image, and renaming it to:  maverick-uec-amd64.iso
[20:46] <kirkland> hallyn: just post me the updated url when you're done
[20:51] <tyska> hello im having problems with CUPS Server, i cant auth and print, can someone help pme
[20:51] <tyska> ?
[20:53] <RudyValencia> I changed the network card in my server and the new card isn't eth0, how do I fix it?
[20:53] <hallyn> kirkland: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/maverick-uec-amd64.iso
[20:53] <kirkland> hallyn: thanks!
[20:57] <Jinxed-> how would you add a static route with virtual interfaces
[20:57] <hallyn> Jinxed-: well, you can 'route add -dev'
[20:58] <hallyn> 'route add -net 10.0.2.0/24 -dev veth3' might work
[20:58] <Jinxed-> i have tried this
[20:59] <Jinxed-> http://pastebin.ca/1910363
[20:59] <Jinxed-> i first added the up route add
[20:59] <Jinxed-> that didn't work
[20:59] <Jinxed-> then i tried making every virtual interfaces default gateway
[21:00] <Jinxed-> what i wanted the static route to be
[21:00] <Jinxed-> but that didn't work
[21:01] <mathiaz> zul: you may wanna check with upstream then
[21:02] <mathiaz> zul: file an ITS - they should be able to help out
[21:07] <thesheff17> does anyone use vmbuilder here?  I create two instances then reboot the whole server and the first instance won't start.
[21:08] <smoser> so in theory i can install this iso ?
[21:09] <smoser> hallyn, kirkland
[21:09] <hallyn> smoser: i suppose - i don't know if there is some 'installer' package i should ahve installed to do that
[21:10] <hallyn> it's intended just as a live demo aiui
[21:11] <hallyn> smoser: you should be able to just boot an ec2 node off of it though
[21:11] <hallyn> presumably...
[21:17] <hggdh> anyone with eucalyptus installed? If so, please confirm bug 610987 -- I will then set it to High
[21:18] <papertigers> does eucalyptus do kvm failover?
[21:18] <failover> dunno
[21:18] <hggdh> no
[21:18] <papertigers> failover: haha not directed to you
[21:19] <failover> :)
[21:23] <papertigers> anyone else running KVM?
[21:31] <thesheff17> papertigers I am
[21:32] <papertigers> thesheff17: whats your setup like?
[21:33] <thesheff17> papertigers it isn't that advanced....I run standalone KVM machines
[21:33] <thesheff17> and slowely moving to eucalyptus
[21:33] <papertigers> I want to set up eucalyptus too, I never used it before
[21:33] <thesheff17> it is pretty straight forward with ubuntu 10.04
[21:34] <papertigers> thesheff17: I would love to set it up
[21:34] <papertigers> thesheff17: currently I have a quadcore box with 8g of ram running 3-5 vms
[21:34] <thesheff17> papertigers: I have the similar setup
[21:35] <thesheff17> papertigers: how do you install your virtual machines? virt-install?
[21:36] <thesheff17> papertigers: what I really want to be able to do is put a SAN behind everything and run eucalyptus and use vmbuilder
[21:43] <_Techie_> i need  help setting up postfix, port 25 is blocked by my ISP by default... i will request to have it unblocked at a later date... i just wish to be able to recieve mail at the moment
[21:44] <_Techie_> i also have webmin as i am unable to get ssh out from my current location
[21:49] <thesheff17> Techie it sounds like most of the outgoing ports are blocked.
[21:49] <papertigers> thesheff17: I usually install via virt-manager
[21:50] <thesheff17> papertigers: I have been using vmbuilder which can build virtual machines very quickly but I'm having some problems.
[21:50] <papertigers> thesheff17: currently I have a 5.4TB raid6 shared over nfs that is trunk linked via gigabit to the kvm server, and I store all of their drives on there
[21:51] <thesheff17> papertigers: so are the mounted NFS actually running the virtual machines?
[21:52] <papertigers> yeah basically, they all point to something like /mnt/vmimages/dnsserver.img
[21:52] <thesheff17> papertigers: have you tried virt-migrate?
[21:54] <papertigers> yeah virsh migrate --live?
[21:54] <papertigers> that one
[21:54] <_Techie_> also, how can i redirect a virtualdomain in apache to another ip in my network, eg linksys.domain.com to get my main router and dynalink.domain.com to get my wireless repeater?
[21:55] <thesheff17> papertigers: does it work good?  I have never got it to work...I think it is because I never had one central storage device.
[21:55] <papertigers> thesheff17: yeah it works, you need a central storage like I have setup
[21:55] <hallyn> kirkland: btw, did i ever mention that the ttylinux iso is under /srv in that liveimage?
[21:55] <hallyn> (or, should be)
[22:04] <kirkland> hallyn: cool, i didn't get that orginally, but thanks
[22:17] <hallyn> kirkland: all right, lp:~serge-hallyn/live-helper/uec
[22:26] <lowridah> _Techie_:  you can put redirect directives inside the <VirtualHost> directive
[22:27] <_Techie_> lowridah: can you please provide an example?
[22:27] <lowridah> <VirtualHost myRouter> RedirectPermanent / routerIP </Virtualhost> (3 lines though)
[22:31] <_Techie_> lowridah: and last of all, what config file is this in?
[22:48] <mathiaz> smoser: hey
[22:48] <mathiaz> smoser: reading your blog post about ssh keys on EC2
[22:48] <mathiaz> smoser: is there a way to automate all of that?
[22:48] <mathiaz> smoser: could this part of the xc2-init project (whatever the name is)?
[22:52] <_Techie_> lowridah: i couldnt seem to get it working, i added the lines into the default sites config, and then when i loaded it in webmin it reported an invalind address and wouldnt load the virtualserver
[22:53] <lowridah> well then create a new blank site in apache
[22:53] <lowridah> make sure you have mod_rewrite enabled
[22:53] <lowridah> then create an .htaccess in each blank site you need to redirect to your router/etc
[22:55] <lowridah> that should have been in your sites-available sites
[22:55] <lowridah> the previous example
[23:19] <hallyn> zul: the # of failed mysql install/upgrade bug reports is kind of impressive.  Do you happen to know if they are always due to pre-existing configuration file being misplaced, or if there is a real bug?
[23:19] <hallyn> (seems like every week i see at least one or two)
[23:47] <mathiaz> hallyn: the main problem with mysql upgrade is that the init script uses a specific user (debian-sys-maintainer IIRC) to connect to the database and shut it down
[23:48] <mathiaz> hallyn: however if you take a snapshot of another mysql server and load it in your machine, either the debian-sys-maint doesn't exist
[23:48] <hallyn> mathiaz: hm.  the two bugs i was just seeing today were an apparently-known bug about old_passwords.cnf not existing
[23:48] <mathiaz> hallyn: or its password is different
[23:48] <mathiaz> hallyn: which leads to upgrade failure
[23:48] <hallyn> all just seems so fragile :)
[23:49] <mathiaz> hallyn: yes - the mysql package is fragile on upgrade
[23:49] <mathiaz> hallyn: which leads to tons of bugs :/
[23:49] <hallyn> and there's nothing really to be done about it?
[23:49] <hallyn> without fixing zul and a team of ninjas on it of course
[23:49] <mathiaz> hallyn: hm - not really
[23:50] <mathiaz> hallyn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingMySQL
[23:50] <mathiaz> hallyn: ^^ has some help in debugging things
[23:50] <hallyn> thanks, i'll look at that
[23:50] <mathiaz> hallyn: mainly the standard reply that will ask for more information
[23:50] <hallyn> (i imagine i'll be seeing more :)
[23:50] <mathiaz> hallyn: part of the reporter won't provide the information, so we'll close the bug in a few weeks
[23:51] <mathiaz> hallyn: and the rest will provide the daemon.log file that should have the actual error message
[23:51] <hallyn> mathiaz: yeah, i've seen several bugs about non-standard install in the past weeks.  not today though
[23:51] <mathiaz> hallyn: so in terms of first-list triager the standard reply is usually enough
[23:51] <hallyn> anyway, figuring those out isn't particularly hard, i was just hoping we could do more than say 'yup, confirmed'
[23:51] <mathiaz> hallyn: starting from lucid there should be apport hook to provide that information though
[23:52] <mathiaz> hallyn: well - there can be multiple causes for an upgrade failure
[23:52] <hallyn> heh, then maybe we can have a hook to not report a bug, but just auto-fix it :)
[23:52] <mathiaz> hallyn: :)
[23:52] <mathiaz> hallyn: usually the error message is about mysql not being able to be stopped or started at some point during the package upgrade
[23:53] <mathiaz> hallyn: however there can be multiple reasons for this failure
[23:53] <mathiaz> hallyn: so marking 'yup, confirmed' is not enough if there is only the dpkg terminal log
[23:53] <mathiaz> hallyn: looking at daemon.log is necessary to figure out the *actual* error message
[23:55] <hallyn> mathiaz: right, the ones i saw in the past have *mostly* been bc of apparmor as i recall