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dakeranyone here ?01:27
dakeri want to show you what i have done01:28
dakerhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/Arn/01:28
dakernewz2000, http://ubuntuone.com/p/Arn/20:58
* newz2000 looks20:58
newz2000daker: what are you showing me here?20:59
dakerubuntu start page20:59
newz2000ah, I see the diff now20:59
newz2000that's clever, does it work just like you'd expect with a normal button?20:59
dakeryes21:00
newz2000(or is this just a mockup?)21:00
dakerhttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~adnane002/ubuntu-start-page/ubuntu-10.1021:00
newz2000daker: do you want me to help you get in touch with the person who maintains that?21:00
dakerthat would be great21:01
stas_newz2000: since you're online and I am too :)21:01
stas_maybe we should prepare a new countdown for the upcoming release in autumn?21:01
newz2000daker: the person you need is beuno, I'll tell him about what you'vve done21:01
newz2000stas_: nah, lets just use the old 10.04 one21:02
dakernewz2000, cool thanks a lot21:02
newz2000;-)21:02
newz2000stas_: yeah, I guess that's going to come a bit earlier this year21:03
stas_:)21:03
newz2000Instead fo using app-engine we should use a technology we can host internally that works the same way, django probably21:03
stas_too much headaches with local hosting :)21:04
newz2000I hear you, but the sysadmins would like to have control over it21:04
newz2000I wonder how hard it would be to prototype w/ app engine but host on one of our platforms21:05
stas_bzr push , bzr pull :)21:05
newz2000yeah21:05
stas_no need for complexity like gapps21:05
newz2000Well, I liked our little dynamic redirector we used so that we could have just an <img tag21:06
newz2000I think we should switch 100% to that21:06
newz2000no more js21:06
newz2000thoughts?21:06
stas_true21:06
newz2000I'll send an email to sysadmins right now to get us set up with something. We'll say it can be either php or python and see what they pick21:07
* newz2000 knows what they'll pick21:07
stas_both are good for facebook, worked with both apis so doesn't really matter21:08
stas_except the app will have to be rewritten for php21:08
newz2000stas_: do you think the app will continue to work as is or will facebook's changes require a big change?21:09
stas_newz2000: so far that feature works, though I can't say how much they will support it21:10
newz2000Do you want to keep it as is or do you want to modernize it?21:10
newz2000I'm wondering if I should even mention the php option or just say python21:10
stas_i would like to make some refactoring in code, but i won't touch api stuff21:11
newz2000ok, I'll just say python then21:11
stas_ask them what are the benefits of moving from python if they say no21:11
stas_if they got good reasons, i'm ok21:11
newz2000ok. I'm quite certain they'll prefer python anyway.21:12
newz2000stas_: how cachable is this content? Does it need cookies or sessions or stuff like that?21:14
newz2000(facebook app that is)21:14
stas_nope, though i need some db storage21:15
stas_since user prefs needs to be stored21:15
newz2000ok, sent the request.21:20
newz2000I better get back to themeing wiki.ubuntu.com now21:20
dakernewz2000, i got a idea21:24
newz2000let's hear it21:24
dakerwell , i dont know if we can implement a small news system on ubuntu start21:25
dakersomewhere on the page21:25
dakerso it can display a small news around ubuntu21:25
newz2000There's been talk about that, and the thought process at the time was this:21:26
newz2000this page is translated into many languages21:26
newz2000it's used very often by people who may not really know or care about Ubuntu21:26
newz2000(think about your browser page in windows talking about cool microsoft news)21:26
newz2000(though apple does it :-()21:26
newz2000and it needs to be very fast or people will change their default page21:27
newz2000(therefore it's 100% static content now, though this is an easy barrier to overcome)21:27
newz2000I think some dynamic content (maybe created statically each day) would be awesome21:27
stas_i don't use it, and surely ain't gonna use it if there will be news on it21:27
newz2000stuff from the shop or maybe links to some of the popular destinations like gmail21:28
dakeryes21:28
newz2000we know fromthe search log that a lot of people go to gmail, hotmail, etc21:28
newz2000daker: here's basically how that project works21:29
newz2000beuno is in charge and does 50% or more of the work21:29
newz2000a couple people from the community help with translation related stuff21:29
dakerwhere can i find him ?21:29
newz2000he's here on freenode or in launchpad21:29
dakerin which channel ?21:29
newz2000daker type /whois beuno21:30
newz2000or send him a /msg21:30
dakeroki21:30
newz2000you can also ask a question on the ubuntu-start-page project21:30
newz2000That might be a good place to propose more lengthy ideas21:30
newz2000here's a key piece of info...21:30
dakeroki thanks21:30
newz2000start page is not his #1 priority21:30
dakernewz2000, i know :D21:31
dakernewz2000, i am waiting for a good theme for the wiki :D21:33
newz2000the wait is nearly over. ;-)21:33

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