daker | anyone here ? | 01:27 |
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daker | i want to show you what i have done | 01:28 |
daker | http://ubuntuone.com/p/Arn/ | 01:28 |
daker | newz2000, http://ubuntuone.com/p/Arn/ | 20:58 |
* newz2000 looks | 20:58 | |
newz2000 | daker: what are you showing me here? | 20:59 |
daker | ubuntu start page | 20:59 |
newz2000 | ah, I see the diff now | 20:59 |
newz2000 | that's clever, does it work just like you'd expect with a normal button? | 20:59 |
daker | yes | 21:00 |
newz2000 | (or is this just a mockup?) | 21:00 |
daker | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~adnane002/ubuntu-start-page/ubuntu-10.10 | 21:00 |
newz2000 | daker: do you want me to help you get in touch with the person who maintains that? | 21:00 |
daker | that would be great | 21:01 |
stas_ | newz2000: since you're online and I am too :) | 21:01 |
stas_ | maybe we should prepare a new countdown for the upcoming release in autumn? | 21:01 |
newz2000 | daker: the person you need is beuno, I'll tell him about what you'vve done | 21:01 |
newz2000 | stas_: nah, lets just use the old 10.04 one | 21:02 |
daker | newz2000, cool thanks a lot | 21:02 |
newz2000 | ;-) | 21:02 |
newz2000 | stas_: yeah, I guess that's going to come a bit earlier this year | 21:03 |
stas_ | :) | 21:03 |
newz2000 | Instead fo using app-engine we should use a technology we can host internally that works the same way, django probably | 21:03 |
stas_ | too much headaches with local hosting :) | 21:04 |
newz2000 | I hear you, but the sysadmins would like to have control over it | 21:04 |
newz2000 | I wonder how hard it would be to prototype w/ app engine but host on one of our platforms | 21:05 |
stas_ | bzr push , bzr pull :) | 21:05 |
newz2000 | yeah | 21:05 |
stas_ | no need for complexity like gapps | 21:05 |
newz2000 | Well, I liked our little dynamic redirector we used so that we could have just an <img tag | 21:06 |
newz2000 | I think we should switch 100% to that | 21:06 |
newz2000 | no more js | 21:06 |
newz2000 | thoughts? | 21:06 |
stas_ | true | 21:06 |
newz2000 | I'll send an email to sysadmins right now to get us set up with something. We'll say it can be either php or python and see what they pick | 21:07 |
* newz2000 knows what they'll pick | 21:07 | |
stas_ | both are good for facebook, worked with both apis so doesn't really matter | 21:08 |
stas_ | except the app will have to be rewritten for php | 21:08 |
newz2000 | stas_: do you think the app will continue to work as is or will facebook's changes require a big change? | 21:09 |
stas_ | newz2000: so far that feature works, though I can't say how much they will support it | 21:10 |
newz2000 | Do you want to keep it as is or do you want to modernize it? | 21:10 |
newz2000 | I'm wondering if I should even mention the php option or just say python | 21:10 |
stas_ | i would like to make some refactoring in code, but i won't touch api stuff | 21:11 |
newz2000 | ok, I'll just say python then | 21:11 |
stas_ | ask them what are the benefits of moving from python if they say no | 21:11 |
stas_ | if they got good reasons, i'm ok | 21:11 |
newz2000 | ok. I'm quite certain they'll prefer python anyway. | 21:12 |
newz2000 | stas_: how cachable is this content? Does it need cookies or sessions or stuff like that? | 21:14 |
newz2000 | (facebook app that is) | 21:14 |
stas_ | nope, though i need some db storage | 21:15 |
stas_ | since user prefs needs to be stored | 21:15 |
newz2000 | ok, sent the request. | 21:20 |
newz2000 | I better get back to themeing wiki.ubuntu.com now | 21:20 |
daker | newz2000, i got a idea | 21:24 |
newz2000 | let's hear it | 21:24 |
daker | well , i dont know if we can implement a small news system on ubuntu start | 21:25 |
daker | somewhere on the page | 21:25 |
daker | so it can display a small news around ubuntu | 21:25 |
newz2000 | There's been talk about that, and the thought process at the time was this: | 21:26 |
newz2000 | this page is translated into many languages | 21:26 |
newz2000 | it's used very often by people who may not really know or care about Ubuntu | 21:26 |
newz2000 | (think about your browser page in windows talking about cool microsoft news) | 21:26 |
newz2000 | (though apple does it :-() | 21:26 |
newz2000 | and it needs to be very fast or people will change their default page | 21:27 |
newz2000 | (therefore it's 100% static content now, though this is an easy barrier to overcome) | 21:27 |
newz2000 | I think some dynamic content (maybe created statically each day) would be awesome | 21:27 |
stas_ | i don't use it, and surely ain't gonna use it if there will be news on it | 21:27 |
newz2000 | stuff from the shop or maybe links to some of the popular destinations like gmail | 21:28 |
daker | yes | 21:28 |
newz2000 | we know fromthe search log that a lot of people go to gmail, hotmail, etc | 21:28 |
newz2000 | daker: here's basically how that project works | 21:29 |
newz2000 | beuno is in charge and does 50% or more of the work | 21:29 |
newz2000 | a couple people from the community help with translation related stuff | 21:29 |
daker | where can i find him ? | 21:29 |
newz2000 | he's here on freenode or in launchpad | 21:29 |
daker | in which channel ? | 21:29 |
newz2000 | daker type /whois beuno | 21:30 |
newz2000 | or send him a /msg | 21:30 |
daker | oki | 21:30 |
newz2000 | you can also ask a question on the ubuntu-start-page project | 21:30 |
newz2000 | That might be a good place to propose more lengthy ideas | 21:30 |
newz2000 | here's a key piece of info... | 21:30 |
daker | oki thanks | 21:30 |
newz2000 | start page is not his #1 priority | 21:30 |
daker | newz2000, i know :D | 21:31 |
daker | newz2000, i am waiting for a good theme for the wiki :D | 21:33 |
newz2000 | the wait is nearly over. ;-) | 21:33 |
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