[01:27] anyone here ? [01:28] i want to show you what i have done [01:28] http://ubuntuone.com/p/Arn/ [20:58] newz2000, http://ubuntuone.com/p/Arn/ [20:58] * newz2000 looks [20:59] daker: what are you showing me here? [20:59] ubuntu start page [20:59] ah, I see the diff now [20:59] that's clever, does it work just like you'd expect with a normal button? [21:00] yes [21:00] (or is this just a mockup?) [21:00] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~adnane002/ubuntu-start-page/ubuntu-10.10 [21:00] daker: do you want me to help you get in touch with the person who maintains that? [21:01] that would be great [21:01] newz2000: since you're online and I am too :) [21:01] maybe we should prepare a new countdown for the upcoming release in autumn? [21:01] daker: the person you need is beuno, I'll tell him about what you'vve done [21:02] stas_: nah, lets just use the old 10.04 one [21:02] newz2000, cool thanks a lot [21:02] ;-) [21:03] stas_: yeah, I guess that's going to come a bit earlier this year [21:03] :) [21:03] Instead fo using app-engine we should use a technology we can host internally that works the same way, django probably [21:04] too much headaches with local hosting :) [21:04] I hear you, but the sysadmins would like to have control over it [21:05] I wonder how hard it would be to prototype w/ app engine but host on one of our platforms [21:05] bzr push , bzr pull :) [21:05] yeah [21:05] no need for complexity like gapps [21:06] Well, I liked our little dynamic redirector we used so that we could have just an I think we should switch 100% to that [21:06] no more js [21:06] thoughts? [21:06] true [21:07] I'll send an email to sysadmins right now to get us set up with something. We'll say it can be either php or python and see what they pick [21:07] * newz2000 knows what they'll pick [21:08] both are good for facebook, worked with both apis so doesn't really matter [21:08] except the app will have to be rewritten for php [21:09] stas_: do you think the app will continue to work as is or will facebook's changes require a big change? [21:10] newz2000: so far that feature works, though I can't say how much they will support it [21:10] Do you want to keep it as is or do you want to modernize it? [21:10] I'm wondering if I should even mention the php option or just say python [21:11] i would like to make some refactoring in code, but i won't touch api stuff [21:11] ok, I'll just say python then [21:11] ask them what are the benefits of moving from python if they say no [21:11] if they got good reasons, i'm ok [21:12] ok. I'm quite certain they'll prefer python anyway. [21:14] stas_: how cachable is this content? Does it need cookies or sessions or stuff like that? [21:14] (facebook app that is) [21:15] nope, though i need some db storage [21:15] since user prefs needs to be stored [21:20] ok, sent the request. [21:20] I better get back to themeing wiki.ubuntu.com now [21:24] newz2000, i got a idea [21:24] let's hear it [21:25] well , i dont know if we can implement a small news system on ubuntu start [21:25] somewhere on the page [21:25] so it can display a small news around ubuntu [21:26] There's been talk about that, and the thought process at the time was this: [21:26] this page is translated into many languages [21:26] it's used very often by people who may not really know or care about Ubuntu [21:26] (think about your browser page in windows talking about cool microsoft news) [21:26] (though apple does it :-() [21:27] and it needs to be very fast or people will change their default page [21:27] (therefore it's 100% static content now, though this is an easy barrier to overcome) [21:27] I think some dynamic content (maybe created statically each day) would be awesome [21:27] i don't use it, and surely ain't gonna use it if there will be news on it [21:28] stuff from the shop or maybe links to some of the popular destinations like gmail [21:28] yes [21:28] we know fromthe search log that a lot of people go to gmail, hotmail, etc [21:29] daker: here's basically how that project works [21:29] beuno is in charge and does 50% or more of the work [21:29] a couple people from the community help with translation related stuff [21:29] where can i find him ? [21:29] he's here on freenode or in launchpad [21:29] in which channel ? [21:30] daker type /whois beuno [21:30] or send him a /msg [21:30] oki [21:30] you can also ask a question on the ubuntu-start-page project [21:30] That might be a good place to propose more lengthy ideas [21:30] here's a key piece of info... [21:30] oki thanks [21:30] start page is not his #1 priority [21:31] newz2000, i know :D [21:33] newz2000, i am waiting for a good theme for the wiki :D [21:33] the wait is nearly over. ;-)