[00:00] <shiftingcontrol> KE1HA:do yu know how to create gnu project the one which is the given in tutorials given by u ?
[00:00] <shiftingcontrol> like rfernce which yu gave
[00:00] <KE1HA> shiftingcontrol, which refrence ?
[00:01] <capleton> Hi everyone.  I'm trying to get emulatetwofinger scroll to work.  unfortunately I think that it isn't working becaue of another input device handler in my xorg.conf.  what package does "InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
[00:01] <capleton>  belong to
[00:01] <shiftingcontrol> KE1HA:http://www.airs.com/ian/configure/
[00:02] <capleton> what I mean is, I have that in my xorg.conf, and I'm trying to figure out what package/drivers it belongs to
[00:02] <KE1HA> Thats not a GNU project, that's an individual perons site.
[00:02] <bwinterton> Can someone help me get ad2p working with Blueman in 10.04. My phone connects but the computer does not play the sound
[00:02] <Conzeit> hey, I installed koala with password authentication...but I dont want it to ask for a password to connet to wireless networks, can anybody tell me how to configure that?
[00:03] <KE1HA> For information on GNU, see: http://www.gnu.org/
[00:03] <BigC> KE1HA: I got it to work, I told it to go to /bin/sh instead of /bin/bash so that was my prob
[00:03] <BigC> *problem
[00:04] <KE1HA> Ah... Ok, glad it's sorted.
[00:05] <shiftingcontrol> after make makefile ,wot should we do in normal linux package installlation ?
[00:05] <mnemon> shiftingcontrol: if you make, you're not doing package installation :)
[00:06] <KE1HA> shiftingcontrol, depends, sometimed all you need is the make, and somtimes you need to make install. But this if Off-Topic for Ubuntu Channel.
[00:06] <coldzero13> hi every one
[00:07] <uRock> Conzeit, In network manager set up your connection, then check the box in the lower left hand corner of the settings to allow for all users.
[00:07] <coldzero13> guys how can i hack msn by using ubuntu
[00:07] <shiftingcontrol> ke1ha,mnemon:i agree but thot some one will know here http://pastie.org/1062995
[00:08] <uRock> Conzeit, this will make the connection permanent
[00:08] <beginer> hello everybody, ive been around in the past days because of a nvidia driver problem of screen black flashes (flickering) on a dell inspiron 9400 with nvidia video card 7900GS and with proprietary driver version 195.36.24
[00:09] <coldzero13> who is the best here
[00:09] <beginer> i have figured out that this happens everytime my performance level is changing from a level to another (looking at the X server settings)
[00:09] <bastid_raZor> coldzero13: you are.
[00:09] <KE1HA> shiftingcontrol, pass, this is not my area of expertise.
[00:10] <shiftingcontrol> ok,thank yu
[00:10] <Conzeit> urock, network manager? is that network connections under system/preferences?
[00:10] <uRock> Conzeit, Yes it is.
[00:11] <uRock> LLCooLJ, Mama said knock you out!
[00:11] <uRock> sorry, couldn't resist
[00:12] <beginer> does anyone know how to make those flashes stop ?
[00:13] <capleton> How do I restart X server?
[00:13] <bastid_raZor> capleton: log out then back in or in a terminal type: sudo sevice gdm restart
[00:13] <capleton> what if i don't have gdm?
[00:13] <bastid_raZor> capleton: kdm
[00:14] <capleton> >_> compiz standalone
[00:14] <KE1HA>  capleton, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[00:14] <KE1HA> or log out, and back in should do it as well.
[00:15] <capleton> how do i log out of x without gdm or kdm or the xfce equivalent?      should i change virtual terminals and pkill x?  i feel like that would leave orphaned processes
[00:15] <Takeasy> i have a question
[00:15]  * capleton kicks himself for using an immature desktop environment
[00:15] <KE1HA> basically, drop to a console, then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop .. then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[00:16] <Takeasy> my desktop hasn't got any icon, and i can't right click on desktop, how to fix it?
[00:16] <capleton> KE1GA, like i said, I don't have KDE or Gnome, so I don't have kdm or gdm
[00:16] <capleton> takeasy, are you using vanilla ubuntu?
[00:16] <kylind> Hi, I could use need some help: How can I merge multiple folders? There are too many to just use cut & paste.
[00:16] <KE1HA> oh, sri missed that, do an init-3 then, dropping out, then init-5
[00:17] <pradeep> hi
[00:17] <Takeasy> capleton: i'm sorry, i'm new to linux, what is vanilla ubuntu?
[00:17] <capleton> thanks KE1HA, I'll try that out
[00:17] <hylian> !hi | pradeep
[00:17] <capleton> Takeasy, just regular ubuntu, not xubuntu or kubuntu right?
[00:17] <Takeasy> xubuntu, capleton
[00:18] <hylian> Takeasy vanilla means unchanged, what came from the install disk.
[00:18] <pradeep> am using ubuntu 10.04 i installvirtualbox but my usb is greyed on my windows virtual machine
[00:18] <pradeep> howdo enable it
[00:18] <capleton> okay, then I think that thunar manages the desktop, and there is an option to have thunar not display icons.
[00:18] <Takeasy> os[Linux 2.6.32-24-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "lucid" 10.04]
[00:18] <MechanisM> hello
[00:19] <capleton> so open a terminal, type thunar, then go to preferences, and look from there.   I hope that works, i don't have thunar myself and i can't remember exactly how to do it
[00:19] <hylian> pradeep the only workaround i know is to be root. the best way to do this is to either type gksu VirtualBox, or to make a link with that setup
[00:19] <MechanisM> I have trouble
[00:19] <beginer> hello everybody, ive been around in the past days because of a nvidia driver problem of screen black flashes (flickering) on a dell inspiron 9400 with nvidia video card 7900GS and with proprietary driver version 195.36.24 on ubuntu 10.04... i have figured out that this happens everytime my performance level is changing from a level to another (looking at the X server settings). I really need my 3D card to work properly a
[00:19] <beginer> sap to be able to work, could anyone give me a hint on how i could fix this?
[00:19] <Takeasy> capleton: is it to me?
[00:19] <capleton> Takeasy, yes
[00:19] <capleton> sry
[00:19] <Takeasy> that's ok, too many ppl around, capleton
[00:20] <MechanisM> help me someone please
[00:20] <pradeep> hylian, how dont really understand u
[00:20] <capleton> Takeasy, yeah yo right.  check out the settings in thunar though and let me know if there's someting there
[00:20] <xerok29> hi
[00:20] <hylian> pradeep, hold alt, and hit f2. then type gksu VirtualBox. this will start VirtualBox in super user mode.
[00:21] <Takeasy> capleton: after i type thunar, file manager comes out
[00:21] <xerok29> hello to lead you have a program to hide ip an urgent need
[00:21] <capleton> Takeasy, yes, then go to a preferences or settings button
[00:21] <capleton> if there is one
[00:22] <xerok29> can anyone help
[00:22] <MechanisM> someone knows how to open encrypted user home directory which were encrypted from other Ubuntu install and which located on diffirent disk and have only this home folder at all ??
[00:23] <xerok29> can anyone help
[00:23] <Mr_Sonoma> MechanisM, do you have the key?
[00:23] <hylian> xerok29 can you be way more specific? i dont undertsand what the problem is
[00:23] <Scunizi> /var/lib/update-rc.d has samba 4 listed.  I had initially installed samba 4 but then uninstalled and installed normal samba (3.x?).  I've had issues with other LAN machines accessing the shares until I sudo service smbd restart the samba server.  Could this entry in update-rc.d possibly be the culprit?
[00:23] <linxeh> xerok29: what are you trying to do ?
[00:23] <arnoldas> why all ubuntu have this read-only device problems(when using usb drives etc.). I just installed crunchbanglinux, which is based on ubuntu, in it's standard desktop version, and I have the same read-only device problem as in my lynx ubuntu
[00:23] <xerok29> ip hide i need program
[00:23] <DeM0nFiRe> Hey guys, is there a command to list all packages in apt by size?
[00:24] <MechanisM> I remeber passwords
[00:24] <linxeh> xerok29: you cannot hide your ip address. the internet will not work if you do
[00:24] <Scunizi> MechanisM: but can't remeber how to remember to spell remember?
[00:24] <MechanisM> and this encrypted directory exist but other system files are deleted
[00:24] <linxeh> xerok29: you might try tor if you are attempting to remain anonymous, but it is not suitable for bandwidth intensive operations
[00:25] <beginer> hello everybody, ive been around in the past days because of a nvidia driver problem of screen black flashes (flickering) on a dell inspiron 9400 with nvidia video card 7900GS and with proprietary driver version 195.36.24 on ubuntu 10.04... i have figured out that this happens everytime my performance level is changing from a level to another (looking at the X server settings), anyone help me please??
[00:25] <ps2pdf> how do i convert postscript (*.ps) to PDF in Ubuntu 10.04?
[00:26] <Takeasy> capleton: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5123/screenshot1ve.png
[00:26] <linxeh> ps2pdf: you could install the ps2pdf utility :)
[00:26] <hylian> xerok29 this explains how to hide an ip in ubuntu: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/23771
[00:26] <MechanisM> so? I have any chance to get my files back?
[00:26] <KE1HA> xerok29, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[00:26] <Takeasy> capleton: i set it and not works
[00:26] <ps2pdf> linxeh: apt-cache search ps2pdf yields nothing
[00:26] <hylian> KE1HA thanx!
[00:26] <DeM0nFiRe> Man, why is my XUbuntu style more than 3Gb in size?
[00:26] <hal> I've sadly failed at the first hurdle with installing sqlite3, because it is not obvious to me which package contains the db engine.  Would someone please help me to determine which one I should be installing please?
[00:26] <linxeh> ps2pdf: it is probably part of ghostscript, but might be part of the latex tools too. hangon, let me find out
[00:27] <Mr_Sonoma> MechanisM, this page might help: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7568
[00:27] <Scunizi> ps2pdf: if you install cups-pdf you can open the ps file in evince or whatever and then "print" it to the newly installed driver.
[00:27] <MechanisM> thnx
[00:27] <DeM0nFiRe> Err
[00:27] <DeM0nFiRe> Xubuntu installation
[00:27] <ps2pdf> Scunizi: i am currently downloading and installing that package to try that, any easier solutions?
[00:27] <coldzero13> help plz
[00:27] <beginer> can anyone help me?
[00:27] <coldzero13> how can i axtract zip and rar files
[00:27] <coldzero13> plz
[00:27] <Mr_Sonoma> MechanisM, there's a way to do it, i've read about it but cant remember the procedure now. I've never had to do it myself
[00:27] <hylian> cups pdf works great! use it myself.
[00:28] <Scunizi> ps2pdf: if it's a graphic you could import it into scribus or possibly inkscape and then output to pdf
[00:28] <capleton> Takeasy, do you have compiz or feh running as well?  if so make sure they aren't set to draw to the desktop
[00:28] <capleton> *i mean draw the desktop
[00:28] <linxeh> ps2pdf: install ghostscript
[00:28] <ps2pdf> linxeh: okay, thanks
[00:28] <AldeBaran> hi
[00:28] <xerok29> I need to hide the look of my pc ip kehia can help me or explain more detailed
[00:29] <beginer> hello everybody, ive been around in the past days because of a nvidia driver problem of screen black flashes (flickering) on a dell inspiron 9400 with nvidia video card 7900GS and with proprietary driver version 195.36.24 on ubuntu 10.04... i have figured out that this happens everytime the card's perf level is changing level after a few hours in use (know it from X server settings monitoring), anyone help me please??
[00:29] <hylian> coldzero13 as for zip files, right click and choose extract, it's already there. rar is available through synaptic, sytem-administration-synaptic package manager
[00:29] <ps2pdf> linxeh: ghostscript is already the newest version.
[00:29] <Takeasy> compiz ? feh? capleton
[00:29] <uRock> !flood
[00:30] <ps2pdf> !tor | xerok29
[00:30] <coldzero13> ok thnks hylian
[00:30] <KE1HA> xerok29, I dont know what you mean ( Hide The Look of Your Machine).
[00:31] <capleton> Takeasy, I looked it up, it's not under thunar, it's actually under 'Desktop Settings>Icons>file/launcher icons'
[00:31] <uRock> beginer, have you made a thread on ubuntuforums.org?
[00:31] <beginer> i did
[00:31] <beginer> couldn't get any better so far
[00:32] <uRock> Seems complicated, I wish I could help.
[00:32] <Takeasy> capleton: i set it there
[00:32] <Takeasy> no use
[00:32] <beginer> m thinking on doin the same on the english based forums
[00:32] <jaybee> Hey party people....
[00:32] <nobarking> hello all
[00:32] <ps2pdf> !hi | nobarking
[00:32] <Garak> anyone know of a free service that will allow me to ssh into a computer behind a router, I'm looking for some way to remotely manage my parents computer when they are on the road using what ever wifi is avaiable
[00:32] <hylian> beginner sorry i didnt find anything on that subject. hmm. did you check google?
[00:33] <beginer> looks like messing with powermizer perf levels
[00:33] <jaybee> I know this is not technically ubuntu, but there is no #locate - how can I tell mlocate to ignore my /mnt directory?
[00:33] <MechanisM> ohhh.. i don't have my mount passphrase =(( ewww
[00:33] <ps2pdf> Garak: there is a service inside of TOR that offers such a service free
[00:33] <nobarking> currently my Kubuntu OS is at 32bit and i want to switch over to 64bit, is it possible to do without reinstalling the entire OS?
[00:33] <KE1HA> Garak, set up a port forward on your head-Router to the machine you want to SSH too.
[00:33] <capleton> Takeasy, what happens when you run xfdesktop?
[00:34] <KE1HA> or, but a Machine in your DMZ and SSH though it.
[00:34] <Takeasy> capleton: i have to logout and run xfdesktop to give a try , right?
[00:34] <dylan-m> Hey, has anyone encountered network problems with HP laptops after the last kernel update?
[00:34] <Garak> KE1HA: the computers are connected to random wifi networks
[00:34] <hylian> beginner i did find an article about a siilar problem with windows, but that was caused by power fluctuations with the mobo.
[00:35] <KE1HA> Doesnt' matter, it's the router that preventing you from entry.
[00:35] <hendaus> help me plz!
[00:35] <ps2pdf> !ask | hendaus
[00:35] <hylian> !hi | hendaus
[00:35] <capleton> Takeasy, logout only if it doesn't work when you try from inside the DE
[00:35] <KE1HA> Or wait, you meaning like Mobile to Mible WiFI networks ?
[00:35] <Garak> KE1HA: what I'm looking for is a free service that two host can connect to act as an intermediate, kinda like an irc server... hmm...
[00:35] <hylian> hendaus how can we help
[00:36] <hendaus> hylian,  thanx, i want to know how to share files from windows to ubuntu?
[00:36] <ps2pdf> Garak: there is a free service available on TOR that lets you log into a server through SSH for free to SSH to another machine
[00:36] <capleton> Takeasy, from within xfce, open a terminal and try xfdesktop --replace or just xfdesktop -replace (with one "-")
[00:37] <clcto> what does Option "TapButton2" "2" do?
[00:37] <hylian> hendaus via network, or are you dual booting...??
[00:37] <Garak> ps2pdf: yea I'll look into that
[00:37] <hendaus> hylian,  dual booting
[00:37] <KE1HA> I think one of them would still need to be static, but maybe wrong.
[00:37] <travis_> can anyone haelp me with xubuntu? no one would help in #xubuntu
[00:37] <ps2pdf> Garak: let me find the address of the service, one min
[00:37] <clcto> !ask
[00:37] <AldeBaran> out of interest... does anyone know of a free xen-type hosting provider? (Taking chances)
[00:38] <hylian> hendaus the simplest solution is to mount your fat32/ntfs drive. ubuntu has no problem reading the drive, then you can just copy or view at your leisure.
[00:38] <hendaus> hylian,  i am newbie friend on this, can u tell me how, and thanx
[00:38] <pradeep> hylian, still battling qit it
[00:39] <travis_> please?
[00:39] <daniel_san> does anyone know if theres a way to setup a keyboard shortcut in gnome to turn on and off compiz like with kde?
[00:39] <pradeep> i noticed if i gksu it give me a root view of virtualbox
[00:39] <clcto> !ask | travis_
[00:39] <hylian> hendaus, under places, do you see your windows partition or drive?
[00:39] <pradeep> i don see my vm's
[00:39] <travis_> im not asking to ask a question
[00:40] <KE1HA> Garak, I dont know about a service, but any Web-Host that will allow you SSH access to can be easily setup to do what you want.
[00:40] <clcto> then what is your question? if someone can help you?
[00:40] <hylian> pradeep i did fail to manetion that after you run virtualbox in super user mode, you will have to re set up your virtual machines, you can still use the same hard drives, you will just have to re set up the accounts. you will then have usb available
[00:40] <EzVeGGiEpZ> hello
[00:40] <hendaus> hylian,  yes
[00:40] <clcto> hellp
[00:40] <clcto> o
[00:41] <EzVeGGiEpZ> I know this is the wrong chat, but I having a hard time with the psx4droid
[00:41] <EzVeGGiEpZ> I'm not sure what to do with a .mdf and .mds file (the game is xenogears and I'm trying to run it on PSX4Droid)
[00:41] <hylian> hendaus click on it, and see if it opens, and if it does, it's always a good i dea to run a small file on their like a pdf or text document just to make sure
[00:41] <capleton> Takeasy, I've got to bolt.  just post if you get it working and let me know how you did it
[00:41] <pradeep> hylian,  so does it mean anytime i want to run vbox i must gksu?
[00:41] <travis_> i was looking at themes in xubuntu (they were all preinstalled) and when i went to one of them, it logged me out of xubuntu and will not let me login again
[00:41] <EzVeGGiEpZ> Can anyone help me out?
[00:41] <hylian> pradeep, yes and no, if you want usb support yes. i have tried every other work around, and it doesn't work.
[00:42] <a1> if anyone can help with "unknown monitor" error message me pleeeease!!!!!!!!!
[00:42] <hendaus> hylian,  yes i open it, i can see the folders of windows
[00:42] <clcto> EzVeGGiEpZ: people will answer if they can
[00:42] <EzVeGGiEpZ> thanks
[00:42] <hylian> hendaus try and run something, music, a picture, anything
[00:42] <pradeep> hylian,  hmmmm ok then let me see brb
[00:42] <clcto> travis_: have you tried tty?
[00:42] <daniel_san> anyone have any idea on that keyboard shortcut i mentioned above?
[00:42] <travis_> tty?
[00:42] <Takeasy> capleton: command not found
[00:43] <jrib> daniel_san: please don't refer to previous lines unless you are speaking to someone in particular that you know read it.  I have no clue what you are talking about, so can't help you
[00:43] <ps2pdf> Garak: http://kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.tor2web.com/wiki/index.php/Howto:_Setup_Anonymous_SSH_Via_Tor_Hidden_Services, there was also a service that did this
[00:43] <a1> any sort of experts in here??????
[00:44] <jrib> !ask | a1
[00:44] <travis_> im kind of new to ubuntu, so i dont know much of the terminal stuff, or what tty is
[00:44] <daniel_san> well it was either do that or spam the question again, you obviously didnt read it so oh well
[00:44] <hendaus> hylian,  ok,now if i boot to windows,how can i share from ubuntu?
[00:45] <clcto> travis_: ctrl+alt+f1 will bring you to a console, try logging in there. ctrl+alt+f7 will bring you back to X
[00:45] <xXBoondocXx> :D i just got Ubutnu 10.04 lastnight got all my updates and now i am wondering what Programs do you guys recommend for me to be able to see the full power of ubuntu?
[00:45] <ps2pdf> hendaus: http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows
[00:45] <Hilikus> xXBoondocXx: depends what youre into
[00:45] <a1> wondering if anyone can help with locked low resolution and unknown monitor??
[00:45] <shiftingcontrol> http://pastie.org/1063027,i m getting following error
[00:45] <jrib> daniel_san: it's proper etiquette to repeat the question after waiting a reasonable amount of time, yes.  And the reason I couldn't read it is because I wasn't in the channel
[00:46] <travis_> clcto: which one will it log me into?
[00:46] <clcto> ?
[00:46] <daniel_san> tis all good rib, thanks
[00:46] <travis_> nevermind
[00:46] <KE1HA> Garak, if you can't find a "Service", find a web-host that will allow you SSH Access, even if it's a Jail-Shell access type, that would do what you need I fairly certain.
[00:46] <AldeBaran> xXBoondocXx: awk is really powerful... grep... perl
[00:46] <travis_> ill try that
[00:46] <clcto> travis_: try to log in there and see if you can
[00:46] <ps2pdf> a1: in terminal, to reset the default highest resolution for your video card, you can sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[00:46] <xXBoondocXx> well i want to make youtube videos and play games and someday make my own kind of live chat server and make a few music beats
[00:46] <clcto> f1=f6 are all consoles (tty)
[00:46] <ps2pdf> a1: you will have to restart to see if it works
[00:46] <xXBoondocXx> what programs do you recommend
[00:46] <daniel_san> @hendaus: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[00:47] <Scunizi> Is there a run level gui editor?
[00:47] <hendaus> hylian,  are u still with me?
[00:47] <tuliohm> Hi, there is any way to move windows between desktops with the mouse and without compiz?
[00:47] <hylian> hendaus, to be honest, theirs no way i know of conventionally. the only way i know of requires ubuntu to do the transfers. you would need a ext 3 or 4 reader of some sort, which windows doesnt have. hmm. maybe there is one, but i haven't seen one. one option is to take a small part of your hard drive and make a fat32 partition, them put in their what you would like to transfer, but that still doesnt give you full access.
[00:47] <Hilikus> xXBoondocXx: video editing and audio editing. for audio editing i use audacity, but i'm no pro
[00:47] <ps2pdf> hylian: there are ext3 readers and writers for windows available
[00:47] <Hilikus> xXBoondocXx: i remember an opensource program similar to fruity loops
[00:48] <hylian> ps2pdf can you tell hendaus where they are available?
[00:48] <daniel_san> milkytracker?
[00:48] <xXBoondocXx> i am useing LMMS right now its alot like FL
[00:48] <xXBoondocXx> so i have that already
[00:48] <ps2pdf> hylian: my link was above
[00:48]  * AldeBaran may be showing his age but FutureCrew made a nice looper..
[00:48] <Hilikus> xXBoondocXx: go in Applicaiton/ubuntu software centre
[00:48] <AldeBaran> did it ever work on Linux? Natively?
[00:48] <ps2pdf> hendaus: http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows
[00:49] <a2> thanks ps2pdf i've tried a lot of methods will try this and let you know thanks again
[00:49] <Takeasy> capleton: i'm sorry that i have to leave now, laters
[00:49] <inayet> #drupal-themes
[00:49] <EzVeGGiEpZ> I'm not sure what to do with a .mdf and .mds file (the game is xenogears and I'm trying to run it on PSX4Droid)
[00:49] <shiftingcontrol> http://pastie.org/1063027,i m getting followig error
[00:49] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  can u plz tell me what to do, coz i am newbie on this
[00:49] <ps2pdf> a2: you have to have ext2 or ext3, not ext4
[00:49] <xXBoondocXx> what program do you recommend me getting if i want to make my own Live chat server??
[00:49] <ps2pdf> hendaus: all you have to do is install one of those programs in windows and restart into windows
[00:49] <ps2pdf> hendaus: they should appear as a new drive letter
[00:49] <pcw> Does any1 know why irqbalance is not started up on boot?
[00:50]  * AldeBaran asks again - does anyone know where one can get hold of a free VPS server? 
[00:50] <woodyjlw> I have a laptop "hp special edition L2000"  with amd Turion64.  will ubuntu 10.04 lts 64 bit run ok on this machine?  with 2 x 512.  I think it shares 128 with 200m ati on board video
[00:50] <p_masho> How do I move the "minimize/maximise" button to the top right ?
[00:50] <hylian> hendaus i found one, thanx to p2pdf: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
[00:50] <daniel_san> anyone know if theres a way to setup a keyboard shortcut in gnome to turn on and off compiz like with kde?
[00:51] <beginer> anyone knows about powermizer messing up with nvidia cards when changing card's perf level?
[00:51] <ps2pdf> p_masho: System -> Preferences -> Appearances -> reselect a theme and apply
[00:51] <KE1HA> xXBoondocXx, ircSever, Jabber, Dancer etc
[00:51] <lucas-arg> hello, im habing problems with gnome-power-manager, when i unplug my laptop from cable it doesnt run power-management.... i uninstalled gnome-power-manager, is there any other alternative?
[00:51] <ny_> hallo there i need help ....
[00:52] <ps2pdf> !ask | ny_
[00:52] <ny_> my Totem Movie Player cant play the youtube clips way
[00:52] <tensorpudding> how do i restart policykit?
[00:52] <travis_> ok i tried, and i logged in but i couldnt get back to the desktop
[00:52] <ps2pdf> tensorpudding: did you try in terminal sudo service policykit restart ?
[00:52] <hylian> beginer i was thinking about your problem. this might not solve anything, but unless that's a laptop, you might want to consider setting ubuntu to not do any power saving. (system-preferences-power management)
[00:52] <travis_> im using gnome now, ubuntu, i installed xubuntu through synaptics
[00:53] <lucas-arg> !battery
[00:53] <ny_> every i play clip it says "Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file" how can i get the permission to that ?
[00:53] <ny_> every time ^
[00:53] <clcto> travis_: ok, that is good. alt+f7 didnt get you back?
[00:53] <tensorpudding> there is no such script
[00:53] <tensorpudding> there doesn't appear to be any initscripts related to policykit
[00:53] <ps2pdf> clcto: an update placed ctrl+alt+F1 as the default X11 (of course you need ctrl+alt+F7 to return if its there)
[00:54] <beginer> hylian> thing is im on a laptop (dell inspiron 9400)
[00:54] <travis_> no, it kept saying some kind of errors, i remember some of it, it said device not ready and some other stuff
[00:54] <hylian> ny_ you will have to change the permissions. do you know your way around file structures, folder etc?
[00:54] <travis_> but i can log into gnome fine, it just xfce session and xubuntu session i cant log into on login screen
[00:54] <ps2pdf> tensorpudding: i am running 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04 and it shows here: /etc/init.d/policykit , maybe try sudo /etc/init.d/policykit restart
[00:54] <ny_> no i new to the ubu linux ,,,
[00:54] <EnigmaticCoder> Is there a way to synchronize the installed programs on a desktop and laptop. By synchronize I mean ensure that the same programs are installed on both machines
[00:55] <tensorpudding> That file doesn't exist, and I'm using the same version of Ubuntu exactly
[00:55] <hylian> beginer well if anything trying that might be atleast a diagnostic tool. sorry i wasnt more helpfull
[00:55] <ps2pdf> tensorpudding: try this in terminal: sudo find / -name policykit
[00:55] <p_masho> ps2pdf: ta.. bit silly to move buttons a round..
[00:55] <ny_> plz just pass me  command =)
[00:55] <KE1HA> p_masho, Ubuntu Tweek, lots of neat things it can do.
[00:55] <tensorpudding> (i hate system v init)
[00:55] <ps2pdf> p_masho: i agree, please add that suggestion here: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[00:56] <KE1HA> opps Ubuntu Tweak, not Tweek
[00:56] <clcto> ps2pdf: oh, my bad
[00:56] <hylian> ny_ chmod a+x (file name or folder name) like this: chmod a+x /home/user/Music/
[00:56] <tensorpudding> I suppose somehow I could have uninstalled policykit? I'm not sure how that could happen.
[00:56] <hendaus> hylian,  this Ext2Read can be installed on ubuntu or windows xp?
[00:56] <beginer> hylian> its ok, anyway my battery's dead so im on AC all the time (it should work properly then, isn't it?)
[00:56] <tensorpudding> I know for certain it was running.
[00:56] <pradeep> hylian, wats up am back
[00:56] <pradeep> i have a work around now
[00:57] <ny_> hylian plz righ to me privet
[00:57] <hylian> hendaus thats a windows xp vista 7 app
[00:57] <ps2pdf> tensorpudding: you can apt-cache search policykit to check the repos for it
[00:57] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  Ext2Read is this the program to download? on windows xp or ubuntu?
[00:57] <hylian> pradeep did that work?
[00:57] <ny_> still don't understand
[00:57] <tensorpudding> No, it's definitely installed.
[00:57] <travis_> clcto: so will i have to uninstall xubuntu through dynaptic, then reinstall?
[00:57] <ps2pdf> hendaus: it would be easiest to do everything in windows, but possible to do in ubuntu
[00:57] <EnigmaticCoder> Is there a way to synchronize the installed programs on a desktop and laptop. By synchronize I mean ensure that the same programs are installed on both machines
[00:57] <travis_> synaptic i mean
[00:57] <pradeep> hylian, yea it did very well
[00:57] <tensorpudding> I'm new to Gnome but not to Debian
[00:57] <KE1HA> Things to Do After 10.04 Install: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[00:57] <hylian> beginer thats true, if your always ac, then no power handling is no big deal, but walking away for half an hour at a cafe can really suck the juice
[00:57] <ps2pdf> hendaus: you should check to ensure it is NOT ext4 first though before proceeding
[00:58] <KE1HA> It has the Button Move / Fix
[00:58] <epinky> EnigmaticCoder: huh? use Veritas :)
[00:58] <tensorpudding> I'll try dpkg-reconfigure
[00:58] <EnigmaticCoder> epinky: thanks
[00:58] <ps2pdf> KE1HA: can you add some of those top 10 to brainstorm.ubuntu.com ?
[00:58] <ny_> do u wan't me to look for i folder name chmod a+x are make the hapen .... ??
[00:59] <hylian> pradeep i actually edit the menu item for virtualbox and added the gksu in the front, since i always need usb support to run my windows only scanner
[00:59] <hendaus> ps2pdf, so i am at ubuntu right now,so i cant do anything here,just restart to windows xp and install Ext2Read?
[00:59] <joshua__> this is fun
[00:59] <joshua__> i love you guys
[00:59] <clcto> travis_: you shouldn't have to, but idk
[00:59] <KE1HA> There's severalk Sites with Great Tips. Ii've never been on brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[00:59] <ps2pdf> hendaus: yes, but ensure your ubuntu is not on ext4 partition
[00:59] <travis_> ok
[00:59] <tensorpudding> what is this policykit-1
[00:59] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  ensure how? tell me
[00:59] <ps2pdf> hendaus: do that first before reboot into windows by System -> Administration -> Disk Utilities
[00:59] <travis_> it was a theme that messed everything up
[00:59] <travis_> that was pre-installed
[01:00] <KE1HA> This one is really good, Long link though SRI fer that:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[01:00] <pradeep> hylian,  what version of vbox are you using
[01:00] <hylian> ny_ no, the command is chmod a+x, not the file name. chmod a+x (your folder or file that is locked here)
[01:00] <ps2pdf> hendaus: ensure you see no ext4, otherwise that windows program will not work
[01:00] <pradeep> hylian,  here is what i did https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/103523
[01:00] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  i open disk utilty? then what?
[01:01] <hylian> pradeep did that actually work though? because i got no results.
[01:01] <beginer> hylian> but its really weird i can predict the flickerings by looking at the nvidia X server setting monitor for powermizer...any time it changes level i got a black screen like a flash for not more than a wink's time
[01:01] <ps2pdf> hendaus: then find the "Hard Disk" on the left navigation portion of the program, and select it
[01:02] <pradeep> hylian,  well it did for me after addin to my /etc/rc.local worked very well
[01:02] <AldeBaran> KE1HA: nice link
[01:02] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  ok i select it
[01:02] <hylian> pradeep good to know. i guess im lazy being su all the time, but i really needed my usb devices.
[01:02] <tensorpudding> what is this policykit-1, what does it have to do with policykit
[01:03] <pradeep> hylian, yup
[01:03] <ps2pdf> hendaus: do you see "ext4" anywhere on that screen? or are you lost? if you see ext4, there is no reader available yet in windows to read ext4, but you can suggest ubuntu deal with this in Ubuntu 10.10 at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/25388/
[01:03] <xerok29> hi
[01:03] <xerok29> friends
[01:03] <ps2pdf> !hi | xerok29
[01:03] <tensorpudding> also starting policykit from its initscript does precisely nothing
[01:03] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  yes i see 100 GB ext4
[01:03] <tensorpudding> but i have something called polkitd running
[01:04] <mikeru> hey
[01:04] <ps2pdf> hendaus: then that program will not work, refer to my last URL above or here to suggest ubuntu deal with this issue better: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/25388/
[01:04] <mikeru> I have some problems with video
[01:04] <hylian> beginer, it might be a driver thing. did you install the driver ubuntu recommended or the one from nvidia? believe it or not, im not running the most up to date driver on my nvidia 8400 gs, because a slightly older driver had a little more compatability. strange, no?
[01:04] <tensorpudding> something about this smells like a broken hack
[01:04] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  i am using ubuntu 10.04lts
[01:05] <mikeru> I've checked in Nvidia X Server Settings Sync to VBlank for both OpenGL and Xvideo
[01:05] <travis_> then i have another question, at startup, what is this: acer-wmi: Unable to detect wmid devices?
[01:05] <ps2pdf> hendaus: I understand you are in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, but without restructuring your partitions or converting ext4 to ext3, there is no option to read these files in Windows
[01:05] <mikeru> however, I can see tearing in every game
[01:05] <mikeru> yet they all run perfectly 60fps, from SNES to N64 and PSX
[01:06] <ps2pdf> hendaus: you can write your comments on this page: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/25388/ so they fix this in the future
[01:06] <Spreadsheet_> I need help with an ASUS USB-N13 USB wifi adapter
[01:06] <manlymatt83> I'm trying to install ubuntu on an old box with regular ATA drives.  It hangs at 33% creating partitions.
[01:06] <mikeru> and when I use Xvideo, it is indeed Vsynced, but it looks a bit blurry
[01:06] <mikeru> HALP?
[01:06] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  so there is way to do that?
[01:06] <manlymatt83> Some googling showed that this is due to bad memory, bad mobo, etc.
[01:06] <Spreadsheet_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1419504
[01:06] <manlymatt83> but I've swapped everything out
[01:06] <Spreadsheet_> I followed post #35 but now it doesn't work
[01:06] <ps2pdf> hendaus: yes, it is tedious though, there is no easy fix
[01:06] <Spreadsheet_> I notice that there is no network manager thing
[01:07] <travis_> anyone know what acer-wmi: unable to detect wmid devices means?
[01:07] <beginer> i installed the nvidia recommended driver, but my card is quite old (ive got a choice between 3 drivers to go for and 2 of them support the GForce7900GS) and i got the same pb with the 2 drivers (but at that time it didn't change my refresh rate...)
[01:07] <KE1HA> travis_, Acer-wmi is derived from acer_acpi, originally developed by Mark
[01:07] <KE1HA> Smith in 2005, then taken over by Carlos Corbacho in 2007, in order to activate
[01:07] <KE1HA> the wireless LAN card under a 64-bit version of Linux, as acerhk[1] (the
[01:07] <KE1HA> previous solution to the problem) relied on making 32 bit BIOS calls which are
[01:07] <KE1HA> not possible in kernel space from a 64 bit OS.
[01:07] <FloodBot4> KE1HA: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:07] <KE1HA> Opps SRI :-)
[01:07] <ps2pdf> hendaus: heres an Ubuntu discussion on how to downgrade from ext4 to ext3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1377366
[01:08] <travis_> so its not a problem, even though it takes forever to show that, then it starts booting?
[01:08] <beginer> hylian> i can still give it a go...
[01:08] <KE1HA> travis_, Well, not really, here's the whole scoop: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/laptops/acer-wmi.txt
[01:08] <beginer> but id like to know where that bug comes from so i can choose the right thing to do
[01:08] <alberto> hola
[01:08] <Gloria1328> hoola
[01:09] <travis_> ok thanks
[01:09] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  ok thanx friend, but other thing , i have vbox on ubuntu and also i have windows xp installed
[01:09] <hylian> beginer thats kinda what i meant if you do this and your problem is solved, well, you problem still isnt solved. i just thought it would be nice to have confirmation.
[01:09] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  if i do this: VBoxSDL -fullscreen -vm "Windows XP Pro" <-- it looks fullscreen
[01:10] <tensorpudding> Logging in and out fixed the problem.
[01:10] <travis_> i still dont like that it adds 30-40 seconds to boot time
[01:10] <tensorpudding> It's a very non-optimal fix though
[01:10] <travis_> but it doesnt matter
[01:10] <ps2pdf> hendaus: i tried VM without success, sorry thats not my strong point, but for ext4 to ext3, here are detailed instructions http://duopetalflower.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-to-migrate-ext4-partitions-to-ext3.html
[01:10] <ps2pdf> tensorpudding: did you reinstall policykit?
[01:10] <Spreadsheet_> hmm
[01:10] <tensorpudding> I didn't install anything.
[01:10] <tensorpudding> Just rebooting fixed it
[01:11] <Spreadsheet_> I should've just used the default solution
[01:11] <KE1HA> travis_, Its a problem, but not a show stopper, I dont like long boot times either.
[01:11] <ps2pdf> tensorpudding: what does the sudo find / -name policykit show?
[01:11] <travis_> ok, i still think i need it though because it says it allows me to use wireless card
[01:11] <tensorpudding> this reminds me of the issue i took with gnome in the past
[01:12] <tensorpudding> it was too complicated for me to fix it when it ultimately broke
[01:12] <DeM0nFiRe> Hello
[01:12] <travis_> ke1ha: do you know anything about xubuntu?
[01:12] <KE1HA> rrr, yes you should, if it's not already logged, put in a bug report on it as they are hard after things that slow down boot times.
[01:12] <ps2pdf> tensorpudding: the policykit is only needed for the wireless portion if you utilize gnome-network-manager
[01:12] <tensorpudding> It's needed for programs that use it for authentication.
[01:12] <tensorpudding> Like the software center.
[01:13] <ps2pdf> tensorpudding: gnome apps mainly though, so wicd and using iwconfig/ifconfig will not need it
[01:13] <KE1HA> travis_, I play around with it, but mostly stick to UB-Server and Desktop to allow me to better understand the mainstream support needs / issues.
[01:13] <tensorpudding> In any case, having it fail randomly after bringing the system back from suspend is egregious.
[01:13] <Andre_Re> someone around who wants to help me with banshee? would be really nice
[01:13] <travis_> ok just wondering because i have a problem with it
[01:13] <tensorpudding> Speaking of egregious, when suspend fails
[01:13] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  i have a question, can i open on ubuntu the folders of windows xp installed on vbox?
[01:14] <ps2pdf> !banshee | Andre_Re
[01:14] <aguitel> n
[01:14] <KE1HA> Proibably best to head for the xubuntu channel unless its common to both.
[01:14] <AldeBaran> 2:14am
[01:14] <ps2pdf> hendaus: yes, i believe they will show, all windows files should show in Ubuntu if Ubuntu is running, virtual or otherwise
[01:14] <AldeBaran> sleep time, I guess
[01:14] <Andre_Re> i don't know how i can make is convert m4a-files
[01:14] <travis_> i alreadt did, but i asked and waited for over 10 minutes and nobody responded, so i tryed here
[01:14] <Andre_Re> it worked on another pc but i don't know which package is missing here
[01:15] <tensorpudding> Saying "you can work around it" is apologetics for "this software is junk and probably shouldn't have been released", but whatever
[01:15] <KE1HA> whats the issues, no harm in asking.
[01:15] <ps2pdf> Andre_Re: dir2ogg should convert m4a to ogg audio format, will that accomplish your goal?
[01:15] <Andre_Re> ps2pdf: nope, because i want to use some functions of banshee
[01:16] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  ok i am at ubuntu and vbox is not running,so how can i open the files that i have save on windows xp?
[01:16] <Andre_Re> it can synchronize the music depending on different settings
[01:16] <ps2pdf> hendaus: Places -> XX GB filesystem
[01:17] <travis_> i was looking through the themes that were installed with xubuntu, and i clicked on one of them, then it logged me out of xubuntu. I tryed logging in on xfce session and xubuntu session, but it showed splash screen, then returned to the login screen
[01:17] <hendaus> ps2pdf,  not on windows booting, i mean on virtualbox
[01:17] <Spreadsheet_> If you have a wifi card then you have something in the panel that allows you to see the conncetions
[01:17] <ps2pdf> anyone have banshee knowledge to help Andre_Re ?
[01:17] <marko-_-> hi guys i have a problem, i have a EPSON Stylus D78 printer and when i want to print a page nothing happens, checking it under http://localhost:631/printers/ it says that it's processing, but nothing happens and under http://localhost:631/jobs/ it said "Unable to write print data: Input/output error"
[01:17] <Spreadsheet_> I have a USB wifi card (ASUS USB n13) and it is working/the light is flashing
[01:17] <marko-_-> please i need this quick
[01:17] <Spreadsheet_> However I do not see a network thing in the panel
[01:18] <Spreadsheet_> Is there a command to start that manually?
[01:18] <ps2pdf> hendaus: it should still show there, they mount using a loop option
[01:18] <Andre_Re> ps2pdf: i know that it works because my mate installed banshee and tested it with succes
[01:18] <Scunizi> sudo service smbd restart doesn't work responding with "unrecognized service" *but* sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart works and then says that function has been converted to an upstart job.. isn't that the first command that didn't work?
[01:18] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: what does iwlist report?
[01:18] <Andre_Re> but he hadn't enough time to check which plugins were involved
[01:19] <h07> when is the next release of ubuntu live cd? please
[01:19] <Spreadsheet_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/470042/
[01:19] <travis_> 10.01
[01:19] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: ^
[01:19] <travis_> 10.10
[01:19] <KE1HA> travis_, not sure about that one, never seen it before. I'd go to the xubuntu forums and post it there, as well as in bugs.
[01:19] <Spreadsheet_> It is blinking a little more than normal. I tested it in Vista and it didn't blink that much
[01:19] <travis_> its ok
[01:19] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey
[01:19] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: oopos, maybe it is iwconfig
[01:20] <travis_> Ubuntu 10.10 is next release, but its currently in alpha
[01:20] <h07> when as in what date
[01:20] <Spreadsheet_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/470043/
[01:20] <Scunizi> h07: 10.10 refers to the date... Oct of 2010
[01:20] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: ^
[01:20] <travis_> yes what scunizi said
[01:20] <ChogyDan> !10.10 | h07
[01:20] <Spreadsheet_> It seems kinda errory
[01:20] <h07> Scunizi: thank you
[01:21] <ny_> Manhattan os is nice...
[01:21] <ChrisBuchholz> I like using gedit for writing code, but i hate compiling via the terminal - too much writing and repeating. Does there exist a gedit plugin for managing and compiling c++, or an ide that is not heavy and bloated?
[01:21] <travis_> i will try the xubuntu forum
[01:21] <travis_> and bugs
[01:21] <ps2pdf> Spreadsheet_: did you look at http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1444746&page=6 ?
[01:21] <Spreadsheet_> ps2pdf: nope
[01:21] <Spreadsheet_> I'll go check that
[01:21] <steve6> no gui on ubuntu server?
[01:21] <Scunizi> WHY .. OH WHY .. is samba acting so different on 10.04.. sudo service smbd restart says "unrecognized service"
[01:22] <maco> steve6: no. its a server
[01:22] <KE1HA> travis_, certainly changing themes should not cause that issue, and i'e nt seen it in the standard UB channels, particularly on 10.04
[01:22] <Spreadsheet_> ps2pdf: which post should I look at?
[01:22] <hasse> an alternetiv to pulseaudio? since i can't open soundsettings or control the volume with my keyboard without it
[01:22] <Scunizi> steve6: by default the server install has no gui.. but you can add one even though most of what you do will be cli
[01:22] <ChogyDan> Scunizi: I dunno, but that commands works-for-me
[01:22] <steve6> is 10 much different than 8?
[01:23] <ps2pdf> Spreadsheet_: it seemed one near the top or middle seemed to work for everyone, thats why i pointed out that page (page 6)
[01:23] <steve6> 8 is what i had last
[01:23] <Spreadsheet_> ps2pdf: ok
[01:23] <EruditeOgre> Question: I wish to stop Apache2 from starting when Ubuntu boots (10.04). Googling turned up chmodding the file /etc/init.d/apache2 however this is also the file used to control apache itself. Anyone know of a better way?
[01:23] <Spreadsheet_> ps2pdf: But the thing is that I am trying to get the list of wireless networks
[01:23] <Spreadsheet_> EruditeOgre: you can disable it in startup services
[01:23] <steve6> heh
[01:23] <KE1HA> Scunizi, what does the results of this say: ps -e | grep smb
[01:23] <tensorpudding> damn floodbots need to stop modeflooding
[01:23] <h07> whooo floodbot is busy!!!
[01:23] <Spreadsheet_> System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[01:23] <ps2pdf> Spreadsheet_: it looks like that driver for that wireless is very unstable in Ubuntu
[01:23] <travis_> KE1HA: yeah it has to be xubuntu problem because i didnt do nothing to it, just looking at themes to see which one i liked, but the thing is, i dont know what theme caused it.
[01:24] <EruditeOgre> Spreadsheet_: Not showing in there.
[01:24] <Scunizi> ChogyDan: initially I had samba4 installed and then uninstalled it.. put samba in and it worked as long as I restarted it after boot..
[01:24] <Spreadsheet_> ps2pdf: how do I get Network Manager or the equivalent to show up?
[01:24] <Spreadsheet_> I mean it is working for me
[01:24] <Scunizi> KE1HA: nothing.. although smbd and nmbd does show.
[01:24] <EruditeOgre> Though, thinking about it, I'd probably have to open it as root to see it.
[01:24] <Spreadsheet_> But I can't get the GUI to show up
[01:24] <DeM0nFiRe> So guys, Xubuntu doesn't come with the xfce menu editor anymore?
[01:24] <ps2pdf> Spreadsheet_: try gksu network-manager in terminal, see if that does it
[01:24] <KE1HA> The service doesn't appear to be runnung.
[01:24] <hasse> an alternetiv to pulseaudio? since i can't open soundsettings or control the volume with my keyboard without it
[01:24] <Scunizi> KE1HA: however ps aux -e | grep smb does show the service running.
[01:25] <Spreadsheet_> ps2pdf: I don't have it installed
[01:25] <hylian> i remember xfce-panel from xubuntu 6.10, which i would have to use often.,
[01:25] <h07> Spreadsheet_: top bar on the right hand side (beside the clock)
[01:25] <clcto> Option "TapButton2" "2" in xorg.conf synaptics should send a button 2 press when i tap with 2 fingers, no?
[01:25] <KE1HA> Oh, it is, ok... can you stop, start or staus the ser5vice in init.d ?
[01:25] <Spreadsheet_> It's not there
[01:25] <h07> Spreadsheet_:  so add it
[01:25] <ps2pdf> Spreadsheet_: in terminal, sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[01:26] <hylian> Spreadsheet are your panels gone? xfce-panel restarts them
[01:26] <Spreadsheet_> I have my panels
[01:26] <Scunizi> KE1HA: yes.. using /etc/init.d/smbd restart etc... however when I do that it says that method has been converted to an upstart job.. ie... sudo service smbd restart
[01:26] <venom25> hey
[01:26] <venom25> guys
[01:26] <Spreadsheet_> I'm in 10.04. There is a special way to have the network manager
[01:26] <h07> Spreadsheet_: right click on top panel    hten add to panel
[01:26] <KE1HA> LOL .. ok, that is definately odd.
[01:26] <hylian> Spreadsheet all of your gui is gone?
[01:26] <steve6> what is a 'lvm' that this install is asking me
[01:27] <ps2pdf> Speadsheet_: by the way, there is no xfce-network-manager package, only for kde and gnome
[01:27] <Spreadsheet_> You have to add the indicator applet
[01:27] <travis_> KE1HA: i found a code which shows errors, i think in Xorg or xserver, the code is less ./.xsession-errors    should i try that?
[01:27] <Spreadsheet_> I am in GNOME
[01:27] <Scunizi> KE1HA: yet.. the shares are not accessable from the LAN via a mapped drive in windows running on a vm
[01:27] <travis_> to see if thier are errors?
[01:27] <h07> Spreadsheet_: so is all users in ubuntu
[01:27] <venom25> what channel do I go to if I am having trouble with a internal microphone ?
[01:27] <Spreadsheet_> h07: what do I add to the panel?
[01:27] <steve6> :/
[01:28] <Scunizi> KE1HA: all this worked prior to reinstalling 10.04 from 9.10
[01:28] <hylian> Spreadsheet my bad, somehow i was under the impression you where using xubuntu, xfce.
[01:28] <Spreadsheet_> I get a window up but I don't know which one to ad
[01:28] <hiexpo> ? how do install something from repos with suid rights
[01:28] <KE1HA> Scunizi, I think the shares are not accessable because it's not runnign properly, why though is a bit baffeling.
[01:28] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: try running nm-applet
[01:28] <ps2pdf> hiexpo: sudo apt-get install <package> and to find the package, apt-cache search <package>
[01:28] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: thanks
[01:28] <EruditeOgre> Spreadsheet_: Found it. update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[01:29] <Scunizi> KE1HA: yea.. I was over at #samba and although they suggested a few things basically said it's most likely a distro issue..
[01:29] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: "an instance of nm-applet is already running"
[01:29] <h07> Spreadsheet_: haha told you so :P
[01:29] <travis_> would less ./.xsession-errors work?
[01:29] <h07> Spreadsheet_: so is all users in ubuntu
[01:29] <Spreadsheet_> But it's not there
[01:29] <KE1HA> Scunizi, I would save my .conf files, then uninstall / reinstall samba then edit your new .conf & restart to see where that puts you.
[01:29] <hylian> Spreadsheet this might help: http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[01:29] <hiexpo> ps2pdf,  thats not what i asked   > how do i install an app from repos and give it suid rights
[01:29] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: are you sure that your wifi is working?
[01:30] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: yes
[01:30] <ps2pdf> hiexpo: please explain further, your question if very generic
[01:30] <Spreadsheet_> I am using a wired connection at the moment though
[01:30] <ChogyDan> !panels | Spreadsheet_ hylian
[01:30] <KE1HA> Scunizi, after having many issues early on with Versin Upgrades, I now only do staright installs.
[01:30] <ized> hi!
[01:30] <ps2pdf> !hi | ized
[01:30] <hylian> ChogyDan i didn't need this information, Spreadsheet did.
[01:30] <bryans> ah i need help installing ubuntu on a Eee netbook
[01:30] <Scunizi> KE1HA: lol.. that's pretty much what I just did.. reinstalled samba4... then purged it.. installed samba.. however I did't "re-install" samba.. I should try that.... Yea.. I *never* version upgrade any more.. always a fresh install keeping the same /home
[01:31] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: does iwconfig report the same thing
[01:31] <ChogyDan> hylian: yeah, I know, sorry
[01:31] <slidinghorn> hiexpo, what program?  you shouldn't need to with anything in the repos....
[01:31] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: I posted what iwconfig put out
[01:31] <ps2pdf> hiexpo: can you please give more details of what you wish to accomplish
[01:31] <hiexpo> when installing kismet you can have suid rights so  howdo i give kismet suid rights
[01:31] <hylian> ChogyDan no problem, thanx for the info
[01:31] <ps2pdf> hiexpo: sudo kismet
[01:31] <Spreadsheet_> Oh cool
[01:31] <KE1HA> Scunizi, I'd un-install, purge, then do a fresh install od Samba and deps, then test again.
[01:31] <Spreadsheet_> The default panels work
[01:31] <ps2pdf> hiexpo: that is in terminal, as kismet I believe is terminal-only
[01:32] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: is it fixed?
[01:32] <Spreadsheet_> However it only says Wired connections
[01:32] <Scunizi> KE1HA: Wow... purging samba resulted in an error in the process when trying to stop the process... same error I get when trying to reinstall.. now for an install and see what happens.
[01:32] <ps2pdf> Spreadsheet: use iwconfig and iwlist to see if you have wireless extensions
[01:33] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: right click, can you enable wireless?
[01:33] <hiexpo> suid rights  should bypass that
[01:33] <KE1HA> Scunizi, if it's running, ya need to kill the PIDS
[01:33] <Spreadsheet_> Maybe I should unplug the wired net
[01:33] <hylian> !network tools
[01:33] <bryans> how do i install from a flash drive if it wont install from boot and the options to change the bios doesnt appear in the beginning?
[01:33] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: what do you mean?
[01:33] <hiexpo> brb
[01:33] <Scunizi> KE1HA: too late.. already reinstalling.. that'll be the next purge step if I need to..
[01:33] <Sasquatch7> Is it possible to run a program ex. firefox from the terminal and then have the terminal close and firefox remains open?
[01:33] <hylian> well i gotta go, bye!
[01:33] <hylian> !bye
[01:33] <Spreadsheet_> You mean user permissions?
[01:33] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: the networking icon...
[01:33] <bryans> I turn on the computer and windows runs
[01:33] <ps2pdf> hiexpo: as an alternative, you can assign root a password via sudo passwd and then login as root, su <enter> and run kismet
[01:33] <bryans> no f10 for bios or anything
[01:34] <KE1HA> Scunizi, oif there's previous PIDS or lock files you'll get errors.
[01:34] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: there are no wireless nets that show up
[01:34] <ps2pdf> bryans: you need to reinstall grub2
[01:34] <ChogyDan> bryans: try different buttons, like del, esc, f5, f3
[01:34] <h07> Spreadsheet_: try adding a custom applet called nm-applet
[01:34] <Spreadsheet_> It shows me the wired net though
[01:34] <Spreadsheet_> h07: I restored the panel to defaults and I can see now
[01:34] <h07> Spreadsheet_: ok then
[01:34] <hiexpo> ok figured it out thanx guys
[01:35] <bryans> grub2?
[01:35] <ps2pdf> !grub2 | bryans
[01:35] <pradeep> so wats ip with ubuntu
[01:35] <ps2pdf> !ask | pradeep
[01:35] <Scunizi> KE1HA: sudo service smbd restart now works.. *AND* my windows vm can now see the shares.. YEE HA!  It may not seem like you helped but you did.. Thanks (KD6WQK here)
[01:35] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470046/
[01:35] <Spreadsheet_> This is my iwconfig
[01:35] <pradeep> so wats up with ubuntu
[01:35] <h07> pradeep: as in?
[01:35] <CkhiKuzad> is there a voice synth program for ubuntu that has a voice similar to stephen hawking?
[01:35] <KE1HA> Scunizi, rrr glad it's working, acutlly Im now KI7MT :-)
[01:36] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: ok, it is the same.  Try sudo iwlist ra0 scan
[01:36] <Scunizi> KE1HA: time for a nick change? :-))
[01:36] <Scunizi> CkhiKuzad: got one for Betty Boop
[01:36] <ps2pdf> CkhiKuzad: gnome-speech-swift
[01:36] <KE1HA> LOL.. everything is in KE1HA, it's Nightmare :-)... but need to do it I suppose.
[01:36] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: the networks show up!
[01:37] <allquixotic> Hi, I notice that the default behavior in Lucid is to modify default.pa to disable time-based scheduling (tsched=0 parameter to module-udev-detect). But I notice that my sound is very choppy without tsched, and it's extremely smooth (even under load) with tsched. I realize tsched was broken before on VMware, but it's fixed now. Any way to stop the system from modifying default.pa and putting tsched=0 back every reboot?
[01:37] <pradeep> i mean how to use ubuntu to configure bandwith usage
[01:37] <Scunizi> KE1HA: 7 land huh?  Is that AZ?
[01:37] <pradeep> in a network
[01:37] <Spreadsheet_> Spreadsheet_: how do I connect to them via CLI?
[01:38] <bryans> where do i get grub2?
[01:38] <hiexpo> Definition: SUID: Set User ID: a file attribute which allows a program to run as a specific user  no matter who executes it.
[01:38] <Scunizi> !grub2 > bryans
[01:38] <KE1HA> Scunizi, no, Montana.
[01:38] <h07> pradeep: not poss AFAIK it doesnt do bandwidth limiting (its not for that)
[01:38] <ps2pdf> bryans: you have to install Ubuntu 10.04, it should have it embedded into the CD
[01:38] <blendmaster1024_> what is a good bs= for dd when I'm imaging a usb SD card?
[01:38] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: with iwconfig
[01:38] <Maletor> Should I get the v2.6.34-lucid kernel or the v2.6.35rc6-maverick ?
[01:38] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: how?
[01:38] <ps2pdf> bryans: try del and F10 to get to see your BIOS's boot menu, if your computer supports boot by CD
[01:39] <KE1HA> Scunizi, 7-Lannd is a BIG Place :-)
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> blendmaster1024_:  1024 or some Multiple of it.. up to like 4x
[01:39] <ChogyDan> Maletor: the lucid one
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> blendmaster1024_:  ive heard that the latest dd's allready default to 1024 or 2048
[01:39] <Scunizi> KE1HA: ah.. I'll be up that way next summer.. family reunion.. but I'm off topic for this channel and have to run anyway..  Will touch base later.
[01:39] <KE1HA> rr CUL
[01:39] <blendmaster1024_> Dr_Willis, really? I thought mine was defaulting to 1 ...
[01:39] <bryans> the netbook doesnt have a disk drive
[01:39] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: how would I connect to a network named "somenet"?
[01:39] <egaudet> Is there a recommended way to start multiple gnome sessions?
[01:39] <Spreadsheet_> Using iwconfig
[01:39] <ps2pdf> bryans: then use a USB flash drive, that will work
[01:39] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: why not use the applet?
[01:40] <Spreadsheet_> It doesn't show up
[01:40] <Spreadsheet_> Do I have to disconnect from the wired network?
[01:40] <pradeep> h07, i need cos am network admin in hospital people use up bandwith in various offices to download and all
[01:40] <ps2pdf> bryans: here is a tutorial: http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=1645
[01:40] <bryans> ah got the bios
[01:40] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: the networks show up on iwlist, but not on NM
[01:40] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: did you right click, and enable wifi?
[01:40] <KE1HA> egaudet, howdo you mean multiple session? or do u want multiple desktops ?
[01:40] <ForestBear> guys best free linux rpg?
[01:40] <blendmaster1024_> woot 9.9MB/s thanks Dr_Willis
[01:40] <ForestBear> oh wait
[01:40] <Spreadsheet_> Yes
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> blendmaster1024_:  try some tests and see. I heard in here the other day that dd defaults now to 1024 or somthing.. but ive not tried it. im used to alwyas giving a bs= option
[01:41] <Maletor> ChogyDan: how come?
[01:41] <egaudet> KE1HA, yes.  For example startx -- :1
[01:41] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: Enable Networking?
[01:41] <ChogyDan> Spreadsheet_: enable wireless
[01:41] <h07> pradeep: you need a special application for that   no ubuntu desktop
[01:41] <egaudet> multiple X sessions
[01:41] <h07> pradeep: you need a special application for that   not! ubuntu desktop
[01:41] <FreeRunner> Hey... Anyone familiar with tunneling both incoming and outgoing traffic through a server with ubuntu on it?
[01:41] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: that doesn't show up
[01:41] <egaudet> i.e. I want to use VT 7,8 for different desktop/login
[01:41] <ps2pdf> egaudet: thats a handy command: startx -- :#
[01:41] <KE1HA> egaudet, I dont think you can have more that one X server runnign at one. You already ahve somethigng like 4 destops available.
[01:41] <wcomnisky> hello!  i'm running Ubuntu Server on VirtualBox and not using X Windows, only the command line, but It looks like it is redrawing the screen for every line that causes the screen to shift down
[01:42] <KE1HA> but Im not 100% on that.
[01:42] <Spreadsheet_> ChogyDan: I'll be disconnecting for a while
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> KE1HA:  you can. Ive had gnome on alt-cgrl-f7 and kde on f8 befor.
[01:42] <amaro> q pdo reseco
[01:42] <amaro> q pedo reseco
[01:42] <ps2pdf> !es | amaro
[01:42] <KE1HA> Ahh, Ok, I've never done that before.
[01:42] <alberto> vaya
[01:42] <alberto> pachon
[01:42] <amaro> lo siento
[01:42] <egaudet> Dr_Willis, is there an "official" ubuntu way of doing that
[01:43] <alberto> aki
[01:43] <wcomnisky> I've tried to add the blacklist to vga16fb, but doesnt solved
[01:43] <egaudet> or should I just go figure out why my startx isn't working
[01:43] <alberto> eesto si funciona
[01:43] <amaro> oh sorry
[01:43] <pradeep> h07,  i use cisco router
[01:43] <ps2pdf> !es | alberto
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> egaudet:  its not ubuntu related azt all.. its just X using  the next avail display.
[01:43] <pradeep> ubuntu sever
[01:44] <amaro> sorry i didn't know it, i'm going to speak in English...
[01:45] <egaudet> Dr_Willis, so there's no really out-of-the-box way to do it, I just have to go figure out why startx is just sitting there repeating "No protocol specified"
[01:45] <ps2pdf> egaudet: you could maybe reconfigure your xserver?
[01:45] <h07> pradeep: you need a special application for that   not! ubuntu server ( its not built in )
[01:45] <egaudet> i've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:45] <FreeRunner> Anyone familiar with tunneling both incoming and outgoing traffic through a server with ubuntu on it?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> egaudet:  out of the box? add proepr commands to rc.local if you wanted. :) or i recall there being gdm configs to start more then 1 session.
[01:46] <ps2pdf> egaudet: did you try jockey-text --list to see if there are custom video drivers?
[01:46] <egaudet> Dr_Willis, well what I meant was startx -- :1  doesn't -just- work
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> egaudet:  X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[01:47] <travis__> is there a way to make the windows easier to resize? because its very hard to grab an edge, especially in the corners
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> egaudet:  :) i recall having to do it as root. and makign it start gdm.. or somthing befor
[01:47] <travis__> and with a touchpad
[01:47] <ps2pdf> travis__: add that suggestion to http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[01:48] <travis__> ok i  will
[01:48] <a1> anyone know how to solve unknown monitor issue on karmic?
[01:48] <froschi> travis__: press alt-space, then r and move the mouse/touchpad
[01:48] <soreau> a1: What is the issue?
[01:49] <ps2pdf> a1: maybe try sudo lshw and pastebin the monitor details
[01:49] <egaudet> no authorization or other errors, the Xorg log looks fine.  It just sits there repeating "No protocol specified" after "waiting for X server to begin accepting connections"
[01:49] <a1> only displaying 800x600 max but will run 1280x1024 in win7
[01:49] <froschi> travis__: (maybe something other than r in non-english locales)
[01:49] <egaudet> alright I'll learn more about it and figure it out,thanks guys
[01:49] <Kemp_Family> I have never use an IRC and I am having problems with internet connections in ubuntu 10.04
[01:49] <soreau> a1: What card is it according to the output of lspci|grep VGA ?
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> egaudet:  this worked.. but started up X  and gdm as the root user. :) shame shame on me,..   sudo startx -- :1
[01:49] <travis__> alt+space+r doesnt do anything
[01:50] <travis__> when moving mouse
[01:50] <Kemp_Family> could anybody help me
[01:50] <froschi> rage: alt-space should bring up the window menu, does it?
[01:50] <soreau> Kemp_Family: How is your machine connecting to the internet?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> Kemp_Family:  give details on what you are doing, and whats not working
[01:50] <froschi> rage: oops
[01:50] <a1> i already know the card its an old 3dfx voodoo3
[01:50] <froschi> travis__: alt-space should bring up the window menu, does it?
[01:50] <travis__>  yes
[01:50] <a1> i've tried lots and looked on forums for the last week
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> a1:  you mey need to put custome modelines in the xorg.conf
[01:50] <travis__> oh i see what you mean now
[01:51] <froschi> travis__: it doesn't work directly with maximized windows... and you have to move the mouse farther than the win borders...
[01:51] <soreau> a1: Im not sure whatever driver is for that card supports xrandr, but you could try to add a mode with xrandr..
[01:51] <bjegovic> HOW CAN I SPEED UP MY UBUNTU 9.1 GNOME ??
[01:52] <thedoor> When i delete a file in a ext4 partition it will be really deleted?
[01:52] <thedoor> or anybody can recover it whit special programs?
[01:52] <travis__> ok it should be easier by clicking on the borders, or at least provide more documentation on how to resize, especially for new users
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  depends on whats slow about it.
[01:52] <a1> thanks willis and soreau i've come across both of those methods but not sure if i tried rither correctly any specifics?
[01:52] <bjegovic> 512 ram
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> thedoor:  tjhers always a chance of revovery.. slim.. but a chance
[01:52] <a1> *either
[01:52] <ps2pdf> thedoor: no, try shred <filename> then delete it
[01:52] <EruditeOgre> Ok, I want to put a folder in /usr to store my web work but can only make the directory as root. (sudo) Now, if I make the directory thus, can I add files to the directory as a vanilla user or do i have to add everything as root?
[01:52] <FreeRunner> Anyone familiar with tunneling both incoming and outgoing traffic through a server with ubuntu on it?
[01:52] <froschi> travis__: you can make the borders thicker i think :/ ...
[01:53] <thedoor> ps2pdf, shred? nice, i will try it :D
[01:53] <Kemp_Family> I originally had ubuntu 9.10 n that worked great for months in regards to internet connection.  Wired n wireless.  I dual booted with windows 7 n reinstalled ubuntu 10.04 and I can not even get on with an ethernet cable.  When I installed 9.10 that was good out of the box
[01:53] <soreau> a1: Can you pastebin the output of xrandr from your terminal to pastebin.com? (and then post the link here)
[01:53] <trojan_spike> thedoor, you should do a hard drive sweep to do a full delete,, take about an hour.. there free software
[01:53] <EruditeOgre> FreeRunner: Tunneling? as in VPN?
[01:53] <ps2pdf> thedoor: there are also apps to clean the empty space, ram, and swap space
[01:53] <Mr_Sonoma>  soreau pastbinit
[01:53] <Kemp_Family> not this time around
[01:53] <soreau> Mr_Sonoma: You pastebinnut
[01:53] <travis__> ok, i found on brainstorm, that they should make an invisible part, instead og making borders thicker, in some cases, a thick border isnt appealing, or pleasant
[01:53] <EruditeOgre> FreeRunner: Or as in using a proxy?
[01:54] <travis__> but better than nothing
[01:54] <soreau> Kemp_Family: Sounds like a nameserver issue possibly. What do you have in /etc/resolv.conf?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  thers no need to PM me.. ask the questions in the channel
[01:54] <Kemp_Family> I don't understand
[01:54] <thedoor> ps2pdf, i think it's better programs to clean empty space, the file is already "deleted" so shred is not appliable :(
[01:54] <FreeRunner> EruditeOgre: as in using a SOCKS proxy.
[01:54] <h07> a1: what refresh rate you using
[01:55] <soreau> Kemp_Family: Open a terminal and type cat /etc/resolv.conf
[01:55] <bjegovic> i says i have 512 ram memory
[01:55] <bjegovic> and my gnome run slow
[01:55] <a2> soreau sure but i'm new to ubuntu though sorry how would i do that?
[01:55] <ps2pdf> thedoor: yeah, try the program that cleans the empty space, that will remove an already deleted file
[01:55] <trojan_spike> get more ram..
[01:55] <bjegovic> i cant
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  thats not supriseing..  more ram is always good.
[01:55] <soreau> a2: Open a terminal and type xrandr then pastebin the output to pastebin.com in your browser
[01:55] <a2> h07 60hz
[01:55] <thedoor> ps2pdf, any sugestion? :)
[01:56] <bjegovic> my configuration i s very old and there is no ram what i need
[01:56] <trojan_spike> ps?
[01:56] <h07> a1: try setting it to 75hz
[01:56] <FreeRunner> EruditeOgre: any ideas?
[01:56] <travis__> bjegovic: you could install Xubuntu, designed for older computers, or computers with less memory
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  or lubuntu instead of xubuntu
[01:56] <ps2pdf> thedoor: http://techthrob.com/2009/03/02/howto-delete-files-permanently-and-securely-in-linux/
[01:56] <bjegovic> the same
[01:56] <Kemp_Family> it says "no such file or directory
[01:56] <EruditeOgre> FreeRunner: http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/
[01:56] <Kemp_Family> "
[01:56] <travis__> it acts sam in xubuntu?
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  you need to be a bit more verbose and concise in what you mean  'the same' is meaningless to us..
[01:56] <travis__> acts same?
[01:56] <soreau> ! who | Kemp_Family
[01:57] <EruditeOgre> Requires a SSH account on whatever server you wish to proxy to but still.
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu should work quite well in 512mb of ram.
[01:57] <bjegovic> the same speed is when i install lubuntu and x ubuntu and ubuntu
[01:57] <trojan_spike> bjegovic, what do u mainly want to use your pc for?? because there are other o.s's u could choose.. that run well under 512 ram..
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  clarify what you mean by 'speed'
[01:57] <travis__> maybe Fluxbuntu?
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  and whats your cpu?
[01:57] <EruditeOgre> Hrm. Wonder if I can CHMod the folder...
[01:57] <bjegovic> how to chexk that ?
[01:57] <ps2pdf> thedoor: Secure-delete is a package of four separate cli utilities, sswap, srm, sfill and smem
[01:57] <ChogyDan> travis__: maybe lubuntu
[01:57] <travis__> i heard that the Flux window manager was lightweight
[01:58] <soreau> Kemp_Family: So if the output of ifconfig shows an eth0 interface, that means the driver is loaded so its just a matter of configuring it, in sys>prefs>networking
[01:58] <ChogyDan> travis__: I think fluxbuntu is dead
[01:58] <bjegovic> how to see what is my cpu
[01:58] <travis__> hChogydan: he said he already tried lubuntu
[01:58] <travis__> oh it is?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> travis__:  almost any 'just a window manager' will be light weight compared to a full desktop.
[01:58] <gizmobay> Device: /dev/sda, ATA error count increased from 960 to 984. Smartctl sent me the prevoius line in an email. Is my hd about to bite the dust?
[01:58] <GeekDude> hey
[01:58] <a1> http://pastebin.com/uK4REXmj
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> !info hardinfo
[01:58] <ps2pdf> thedoor: you probably should run a disk check on the disk to ensure there are no errors on the disk prior to using any of those programs, and be careful, one error will wipe the wrong partition
[01:59] <bjegovic> i wanna to be on facebook and listen youtube, but when i try that, my comp begin so slow
[01:59] <FreeRunner> EruditeOgre: i am aware of that. What i am trying to do is tunnle a programs incoming and outgoing traffic through the server. I can set the program to use specific ports but i still cant get the incoming traffic to work
[01:59] <cn1109> HELLO. I've just installed ubuntu 10.x LTSP. I'm currently using a different server to server for DHCP. What do I need to edit in my dhcp for my other systems PXE boot from Ubuntu LTSP?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  check  the command -->  more /proc/cpuinfo
[01:59] <travis__> bjegovic: go to System Moniter
[01:59] <trojan_spike> change your o.s to something lighter and basic..
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  thats not supriseing either.. flash is a big pig.
[01:59] <thedoor> ps2pdf, i found one called beachbit it does what i need?
[01:59] <a1> soreau thanks as you can see iv'e tried to add a resolution
[02:00] <bjegovic> so i cant that ?
[02:00] <travis__> on the system tab should be your cpu
[02:00] <ps2pdf> thedoor: i have only used secure-delete with success
[02:00] <travis__> you could try google chrome, and use HTML5 in youtube
[02:00] <trojan_spike> bjegovic, is it a netbook your using?
[02:00] <travis__> but its beta though
[02:00] <travis__> but it works for me
[02:00] <bjegovic> no, desktop
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  for youtube videos - use the HTML5 feature. instead of flash . that may help
[02:00] <ps2pdf> bjegovic: try facebook lite version while on youtube: http://topnews.us/content/27035-facebook-launches-its-simple-and-streamlined-lite-version-us-and-india
[02:01] <bjegovic> my cpu:  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
[02:01] <trojan_spike> u got graphics card?
[02:01] <travis__> but it only works on google chrome and not firefox
[02:01] <soreau> a1: You have to post the link here so I can see it
[02:01] <a1> http://pastebin.com/uK4REXmj
[02:01] <chris63546541651> hey i have tried to change my password preferences in ubuntu, and now it won't let me log on
[02:01] <soreau> Kemp_Family: Dont pm people
[02:01] <soreau> ! pm | Kemp_Family
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  you really should look into getting more ram. The stuff is cheap these days
[02:01] <Spreadsheet_> Hello
[02:02] <h07> bjegovic: Celeron CPU   hehe
[02:02] <ps2pdf> chris: did you try in terminal: sudo passwd <username> ?
[02:02] <bjegovic> i know but my comp is very old and i cant find that version of ram
[02:02] <froschi> Dr_Willis: not for the cheap older computers :/
[02:02] <trojan_spike> hmmm Dr_Willis depend on the ram
[02:02] <pradeep> h07, heard of mikrotik
[02:02] <Spreadsheet_> It works!
[02:02] <Spreadsheet_> My wireless connection that is
[02:02] <trojan_spike> DDR here is pretty expensive
[02:02] <Spreadsheet_> However the GUI parts don't see it
[02:02] <wcomnisky> could anybody help me with framebuffer problem in ubuntu server + virtualbox?
[02:02] <chris63546541651> ps2pdf : no i haven't i can get into recovery mode into terminal, i just want back into the GUI
[02:02] <Spreadsheet_> I used iwconfig and now I am connecting to a shell server, chatting with you
[02:02] <travis__> bjegovic: do you know what version your ram is?
[02:02] <steve6> how do i enable the root user and set a password for it
[02:02] <Spreadsheet_> However pidgin is broken beacuse it is waiting for a network connection when there is one
[02:02] <Kemp_Family> I am sorry for PMing I am just trying to get help
[02:03] <ps2pdf> chris: try recovery mode, login as root, and passwd <username> to reset password
[02:03] <trojan_spike> do you know what version it is bjegovic i have ram laying around
[02:03] <steve6> so i can actually log in as iit
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> froschi:   varisious web suites sell it very cheaply. and  his pc is not that old.  a Cel 2.4 ghz should handle ubuntu decantly well. i
[02:03] <bjegovic> no but some man who work in  comp shop told me that today that version is not exiting
[02:03] <soreau> a1: Looks like you added it but havent selected it yet. Try xrandr --output Screen\ 0 --mode 1024x768
[02:03] <ps2pdf> steve6: in terminal sudo passwd
[02:03] <travis__> oh ok
[02:03] <ps2pdf> steve6: this will assign a password to root
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> 512mb ram - is proberly the bottleneck on a Cel 2.4 ghz system.
[02:03] <Spreadsheet_> How do I get the NetworkManager to see it?
[02:03] <a1> thanks will try
[02:03] <steve6> thanks
[02:04] <travis__> you could try DSL, but its not a ubuntu distribution though
[02:04] <EruditeOgre> FreeRunner: No clue how to do that, sorry. :(
[02:04] <trojan_spike> how old is the pc bjegovic
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> I see no differance in the light facebook page vs the normal facebook page. :)
[02:04] <travis__> and i tryed it but it not very good to me
[02:04] <ps2pdf> Dr_Willis: well, i guess that was a bad suggestion, maybe less reliance on javascript?
[02:04] <mneptok> "tried"
[02:04] <FreeRunner> EruditeOgre: Its ok no one does
[02:04] <soreau> a1: Maybe (0x96) is part of the mode name? I dont know why your output name and mode has spaces in their name
[02:04] <bjegovic> i bought it 2000
[02:04] <actionParsnip> yo yo yo
[02:04] <bjegovic> 10 years
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> ps2pdf:  not sure. :) it does have a slight differance rendering..  but  let me play with it more.
[02:04] <Kemp_Family> does anybody know how to get a wired internet connection to work
[02:05] <travis__> you might have to buy new laptop/desktop
[02:05] <ps2pdf> Dr_Willis: try the view source
[02:05] <h07> pradeep: no whats it for?
[02:05] <mneptok> actionParsnip: this is the last time i will ask you to stop /join'ing the channel and instantly adding unnecessary input
[02:05] <bjegovic> i dont  have money
[02:05] <cn1109> Does anyone have experience setting up a Ltsp server?
[02:05] <travis__> oh
[02:05] <chris63546541651> ps2pdf : how do i log in as root
[02:05] <ps2pdf> bjegovic: use your USB flash drive as swap, it will increase the speed of your computer's accessing the RAM
[02:05] <actionParsnip> mneptok: ok dude, no worries
[02:05] <travis__> you could try lockerz
[02:05] <ps2pdf> chris: under recovery option, drop to root shell
[02:05] <a3> tried it but changed screen 0 to default i think thats right?
[02:05] <trojan_spike> window millenium.. ddr or pc 2
[02:06] <a3> and it said xrandr: cannot find mode 1024x768
[02:06] <Spreadsheet_> I need help with network manager.. anyone?
[02:06] <chris63546541651> ps2pdf : od
[02:06] <actionParsnip> mneptok: could I trouble you for a testimonial n my wiki page. I'm vying for ubuntu membership :)
[02:06] <chris63546541651> ok*
[02:06] <steve6> i just installed ubuntu, and im getting 'error: no suitable mode found
[02:06] <steve6> and error: unknown command terminal
[02:06] <steve6> on startup, what gives?
[02:06] <travis__> if you ever heard of lockerz
[02:06] <trojan_spike> 512mb in one stick bjegovic
[02:06] <actionParsnip> steve6: boot to root recovery mode and run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:06] <EruditeOgre> Question: I have a folder under /usr that I wish to use to host web work from. The folder apparently must be owned by root (at least I had to create it with root). How do I grant write access to my account (admin account) to that folder? Do I just 'chmod o+w'?
[02:06] <soreau> a1: Ok, try xrandr --output Screen\ 0 --mode 1024x768\ \(0x96\)
[02:07] <bjegovic> what????
[02:07] <steve6> actionParsnip, i still get login proimpt after about 30 seconds
[02:07] <ps2pdf> steve6: actionParsnip is usually on the ball, try that trick
[02:07] <soreau> a3: see that?
[02:07] <Todd__> Anyone able to give me some suggestions for installing network drivers from the command line?
[02:07] <soreau> a3: I made it to a1
[02:07] <actionParsnip> steve6: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[02:07] <Kemp_Family> does anybody know how to get the internet connection working in Ubuntu 10.04 after beeing dual booted with windows 7
[02:07] <steve6> but i dont have x installed... its 'server'
[02:07] <EruditeOgre> Or can I do g+w considering I'm a part of the admin group?
[02:07] <travis__> its a site where you earn points, and use it on redeeming a whole bunch of stuff
[02:07] <EruditeOgre> (Even though the folder is root:root)
[02:07] <travis__> including computers
[02:07] <a3> ye not sure how ive got all these names :S
[02:07] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: can you be specific on any error messages you get or things you have tried to fix it (more details needed)?
[02:07] <a3> thanks tryin
[02:07] <travis__> and its not a scam
[02:08] <mneptok> actionParsnip: since i have asked you multiple times in the past to stop the "yo yo yo" on /join, and you're *still* doing it, it does not incline me to assert that you're receptive to the requests of community leaders, which is requisite for membership. sorry.
[02:08] <bjegovic> i am installing lubuntu
[02:08] <travis__> ok
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> Todd__:  drivers for what exactly? if you know the pcakge names its not too hard.
[02:08] <EruditeOgre> Kemp_Family: Wifi or ethernet?
[02:08] <h07> steve6: The problem is that the Video mode is set in '/boot/grub/grub.cfg' to an incorrect value (hence the error message!)
[02:08] <ps2pdf> mneptok: is it in the Ubuntu terms of agreement for this chatroom?
[02:08] <steve6> i get 'packiage xserver-zorg is not installed
[02:08] <a3> same result
[02:08] <actionParsnip> mneptok: i understand
[02:08] <cablop> i'm starting to get so tired of the way ubuntu works :(
[02:08] <cablop> full of stupid bugs!
[02:08] <pradeep> h07, basically for hotpot or bandwith manager
[02:08] <actionParsnip> EruditeOgre: make a group and add your user and root to it, then run:   sudo chown root:foo bar; sudo chmod g+w bar     replace foo with the group name and bar with the folder name
[02:09] <Kemp_Family> if was able to get the ethernet working I could download the driver for the wireless adapter
[02:09] <ps2pdf> cablop: suggest improvements here: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <cablop> i can't change the keyboard layout, i add a different and remove what i'm using now, but IT WON'T CHANGE
[02:09] <Todd__> I had ubunter server 10 installed and the mobo fried.  installed a new mobo and ubuntu does not recognize the nIC anymore.  Need to trigger ubuntu to reinstall the Network driver
[02:09] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: did you try sudo service networking restart in terminal?
[02:09] <cablop> it's not an improvement! it's a bug... awww
[02:09] <Todd__> not sure how to do this from the command line.
[02:09] <Kemp_Family> nope
[02:09] <Kemp_Family> I will try
[02:09] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: consult ifconfig and iwconfig for details of your network and wireless card, see if you get an IP address?
[02:10] <soreau> Kemp_Family: You need to set your nameserver. In /etc/resolv.conf, you can put nameserver 192.168.1.1 or whatever you want to be your nameserver or you can just use sys>prefs>networking
[02:10] <cablop> anyway
[02:10] <cablop> after the rant
[02:10] <Kemp_Family> I have ip address in the network connection for auto eth0
[02:10] <ps2pdf> soureau: public nameservers include 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4, 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220
[02:10] <cablop> any idea on how to be able to change the keyboard layout?
[02:10] <soreau> Kemp_Family: If you type ping 8.8.8.8, does it work?
[02:10] <Kemp_Family> more like a mac address
[02:10] <actionParsnip> Kemp_Family: soreau : if you use a gui app for network management, the changes in resolv.conf will be overwritten so you must append the setting in the gui app
[02:11] <EruditeOgre> actionParsnip: Thanks. Will do
[02:11] <soreau> ps2pdf: I know that.
[02:11] <h07> pradeep: so ask for help at there forum :P
[02:11] <mneptok> ps2pdf: "Don't be annoying: Flooding, away messages, repeating, CTCPs and bot abuse are not the only ways you can be annoying. Personal attacks when things don't go as planned, ***** other attention-seeking behaviour *****, and continued misbehaving after you have been advised to stop is disruptive and obnoxious. Such behaviour may result in a removal from the channel."
[02:11] <elegantchaos> cheers! does anyone know of an Acer support chat? im having start up issues
[02:11] <soreau> actionParsnip: Yes, I know.
[02:11] <Kemp_Family> type 8.8.8.8
[02:11] <Kemp_Family> where
[02:11] <mneptok> ps2pdf: from the IRC Guidelines, with emphasis added
[02:11] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: maybe the IP you are getting is IPv6, which looks like a mac address
[02:11] <soreau> Kemp_Family: No, ping 8.8.8.8
[02:11] <travis__> cablop when you clicked it, did you click 'Apply System Wide?
[02:11] <ps2pdf> mneptok: i have not and am not violating any of them
[02:11] <soreau> Kemp_Family: In your terminal
[02:11] <Kemp_Family> in a terminal'
[02:12] <mneptok> ps2pdf: i did not say you were
[02:12] <actionParsnip> soreau: was more just to tie your flows together. I guessed you knew :)
[02:12] <cablop> travis_ yes i did, and nothing happened
[02:12] <KE1HA> elegantchaos, what is the start up issue ?
[02:12] <Kemp_Family> it says command not found
[02:12] <soreau> actionParsnip: my flows dont require tying, thanks.
[02:12] <cablop> i'm going to restart this thing and see what happens :(
[02:13] <soreau> Kemp_Family: ping
[02:13] <soreau> Kemp_Family: ping 8.8.8.8
[02:13] <travis__> خن
[02:13] <chris63546541651> ps2pdf : i tried going to root shell and changed password, it still wont let me on, i click on username and it goes right back to the same screen to select user
[02:13] <cablop> but... after using 5 years ubuntu it's too sad to see some stupid bugs around... 5 years...
[02:13] <travis__> هف هف صخقنثی بخق پث
[02:13] <actionParsnip> soreau: np
[02:13] <pradeep> please newort administrator here
[02:13] <elegantchaos> it doesnt wanna boot into ubuntu   it may take several times... maybe never.. ive installed several times.. im patient   perhaps a "grub"issue?
[02:13] <a3> soreau: do you know the way to edit the xrandr?
[02:13] <travis__> it worked for me
[02:13] <h07> cablop: what bugs?
[02:13] <Kemp_Family> it says network is unreachable
[02:13] <soreau> a3: You mean the mode you already added?
[02:13] <ps2pdf> chris: did the password reset for the user so you can login? did you get any errors?
[02:14] <travis__> h07: cablop says it wont change keyboard layout, but it works for me
[02:14] <chris63546541651> ps2pdf : no it didnt require a password to log on, but it wont let me in
[02:14] <travis__> i think cablop forgot to move what he wanted to the top
[02:14] <a3> soreau: ye i can't remember how i added it haha
[02:14] <ps2pdf> chris: if you switch ttyl at startup, can you login as the user or root?
[02:15] <KE1HA> elegantchaos, I doubt grub is the root problem, more likely a kernel / harware compatability issue. Are you getting any error messages during boot?
[02:15] <h07> cablop: cant change keyboard layout.. thats not a bug!
[02:15] <soreau> a3: Even if you were able to get xrandr working this way, it would reset after X restart. Ultimately you will want to add a mode line to xorg.conf
[02:15] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: in terminal (applications -> accessories -> terminal), run route , do you see your router there?
[02:15] <chris63546541651> ps2pdf : i can log on as a different user, and i put in root as user but dont know password
[02:16] <bjegovic> will my comp be faster when i install lubuntu and will i can acess gnome again ??
[02:16] <elegantchaos> i did see "64 bit"   in lineage.. but am surei m  using 32 bit    ata 2 and ata4 marked "dummy" are the last lines on start up in recovery
[02:16] <Kemp_Family> run: command not found
[02:16] <ps2pdf> chris: is this correct then: you don't know your username's password or the root password?
[02:16] <a3> soreau: any suggestions on doing that? i'm only just starting on ubuntu and this is on my list of problems i've had so far
[02:16] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: i am sorry, just "route" in terminal without quotes
[02:17] <bjegovic> can anybody answer me
[02:17] <chris63546541651> ps2pdf : yes
[02:17] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: you should see your Router's IP under Gateway column, do you see this?
[02:17] <h07> travis__: not sure what his problem is!
[02:17] <travis__> lubuntu doesnt have gnome installed, but you can install it through synaptics
[02:17] <Kemp_Family> nope, it is blank for Gateway
[02:17] <ps2pdf> chris: i think recovery is the only option, anyone else know a way for chris to recover his password for username or root?
[02:18] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: ok, that is the problem, your Ubuntu is not detecting your router as the gateway, does your computer run alright in Windows mode if you have Windows installed?
[02:19] <Kemp_Family> yes, it is dual booted with 7 n the wireless is just fine
[02:19] <h07> ps2pdf:  is chris working off a live cd?
[02:19] <KE1HA> elegantchaos, you can enable an extended log funciton for boot errors: In /etc/default/bootlogd edit BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No
[02:19] <KE1HA>  to say yes, then review the results.
[02:19] <ps2pdf> h07: i do not believe so
[02:19] <actionParsnip> ps2pdf: you may be able to chroot, not sure
[02:19] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: ok, in terminal, try "sudo service network restart" without quotes
[02:19] <actionParsnip> ps2pdf: chroot then run: sudo passwd foo
[02:19] <elegantchaos> thanks   i will try and let you know :)
[02:19] <pharacon> ok got a quick question I got to change file permissions using nautalis and I can click and change it but as soon as i move the mouse it snaps back to what it was before i changed it, any suggestions?
[02:19] <ps2pdf> chris: did you see actionParsnip's suggestion above?
[02:20] <h07> ps2pdf:  in the past Ive used  system-rescue cd to do just that
[02:20] <magn3ts> why are there two  conflicting packages: "gcc-mingw32" and "mingw32" they have hte same description...
[02:20] <Kemp_Family> network:  unrecognized service
[02:20] <soreau> a3: Maybe you can google for an xorg.conf that has mode lines
[02:21] <actionParsnip> pharacon: are you the owner of the file?
[02:21] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: ok, in terminal, try "sudo service networking restart" without quotes, try networking instead of network
[02:21] <pharacon> yes
[02:21] <pharacon> i just made the folder
[02:21] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: ok, in terminal, try "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart" without quotes, that should also work if service is again not recognized
[02:21] <pharacon> but i want to allow a group to have full access to it
[02:22] <soreau> Kemp_Family: You say wireless works in win7 but hardwire does not work in ubuntu. That isnt a fair comparison, even though I know you are trying to ultimately get wireless working, something could be physically wrong with your ethernet cable and/or termination connections
[02:22] <a3> soraeu: thanks will take a look now at least im on the right track
[02:22] <actionParsnip> pharacon: hmm, so the partition is writable and you are the owner, should be ok. If you change it in terminal does it stick?
[02:22] <keplar> anyone happen to know what the tablet is that appears on the ubuntu homepage?  or is it just a mock-up
[02:22] <ps2pdf> soreau: they have an ip in ifconfig, can't ping ip addresses, and have no IP in route's gateway
[02:22] <pharacon> i'm a noob, i do not know how :(
[02:22] <cmwslw> ls
[02:22] <preecher> when i am watchin a movie every few minutes my screen starts to fade and then go black but if i move my mouse when it starts to fade it stays ok--its aggravating when im tryn watch something-anyone kno how to stop this?
[02:23] <hiexpo> Kemp_Family,  what kinda router isit ?
[02:23] <h07> keplar: whats the link to the page?
[02:23] <pharacon> it seems like naut just doesn't allow for it
[02:23] <octavio-rdz> hi room what is the best solution for remote desktop ... I have tried vnc but is slow ... comparing it to Win. solution (RDP)
[02:23] <keplar> www.ubuntu.com
[02:23] <keplar> :P
[02:23] <thune3> DeM0nFiRe: you had a question way back about listing packages by size. You could try: dpkg-query -W -f '${Installed-Size} ${Package}\n' | sort -n
[02:23] <h07> keplar: bleh
[02:23] <h07> keplar: full link please
[02:23] <Kemp_Family> linksys
[02:23] <keplar> it is in the "Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is here!" advert on the main page
[02:23] <actionParsnip> Kemp_Family: make sure you disable opwer management on the ethernet device as well as the ability to "wake windows up", both are set in device manager. This can make the device not get "ocked" even when windows is off
[02:23] <DeM0nFiRe> thune3, yeah, thanks I found it already
[02:23] <hiexpo> Kemp_Family,  and what system 10.04 ?
[02:24] <ps2pdf> hiexpo: yes, they are on 10.04
[02:24] <keplar> http://www.ubuntu.com/sites/default/files/active/02_ubuntu/U_homepage/U0.0_carousel_01.png
[02:24] <actionParsnip> preecher: its the screen saver
[02:24] <Kemp_Family> my wife has unbuntu the wirless works just fine
[02:24] <hiexpo> what kinda router ?
[02:24] <preecher> actionParsnip ok thx
[02:24] <ps2pdf> hiexpo: linksys they said, you need the model?
[02:24] <soreau> Kemp_Family: Which wifi card do you have btw that you need a driver for?
[02:24] <pcw> how do i convert stardict dictionaries to dict?
[02:25] <Kemp_Family> broadcom
[02:25] <elegantchaos> "permission de" :(nied
[02:25] <travis__> h07: go here: http://www.ubuntu.com/sites/default/files/active/02_ubuntu/U_homepage/U0.0_carousel_01.png
[02:25] <travis__> that is the picture hes talking about
[02:25] <Kemp_Family> it was working fine when I had 9.10 installed by itself
[02:25] <soreau> Kemp_Family: Can you ping your router?
[02:25] <travis__> oh, keplar beat me to it
[02:25] <travis__> nevermind
[02:25] <keplar> :P
[02:26] <keplar> i was trying to zoom in to see the logos and stuff, but can't get a clear picture :(
[02:26] <h07> keplar: ohh    is that a tab Pc?
[02:26] <keplar> i thought so.  it may be an all-in-one i guess :/
[02:26] <risc79> hi
[02:26] <ps2pdf> soreau: i have seen this bug in Ubuntu 9.10, where i get an IP from the router, but nothing in the route, and can't ping any IPs
[02:26] <leftyfb> Fresh install of 10.04 with the /home from 8.04 copied back. For some reason, clicking on items in the Places menu is bringing up Firefox as the File manager instead of nautilus. I've looked in gconf-editor but can't find anything that isn't setup correctly. There's no setting for file manager in preferred applications and nothing I can find for file manager in /etc/alternatives.
[02:26] <keplar> but no keyboard and mouse in view
[02:26] <h07> keplar: looks like a mock up to me
[02:27] <actionParsnip> leftyfb: did you chown the folders to the new user?
[02:27] <keplar> looking for a good slate w/ multitouch
[02:27] <travis__> or it could be a moniter, ive seen some without a logo
[02:27] <leftyfb> actionParsnip: it's the same UID so no need
[02:27] <keplar> asus has some monitors of that style, not off the desk, just propped up from behind
[02:27] <actionParsnip> leftyfb: ok thats cool, god to check ;)
[02:27] <keplar> i was just hoping it was a tablet :(
[02:27] <actionParsnip> *good
[02:27] <usacomputertec> hello does anyone know how to get past activex problems on web pages?
[02:27] <elegantchaos> get a mac
[02:27] <h07> travis_   yeah sure   but those buttons at the base?
[02:28] <leftyfb> usacomputertec: use internet explorer under wine or in Virtualbox. There's no activex for Ubuntu
[02:28] <usacomputertec> I have a web page that requires activex even if I use the user agent switcher and tell it I'm using Windows and IE6
[02:28] <keplar> they may be like the monitor menu buttons
[02:28] <hiexpo> ok heres what ya gotta do   > heres the problem with eth it sometimes chages eth upon each boot so what ya gotta do is  right click on network manager than  hit edit than click wired see what eth it is eth 0   > 1 2 3etc than  click the one your on than edit it  i will go on after you tell me that is the prob changing eth number upon reboot
[02:28] <ps2pdf> pcw: http://superuser.com/questions/137007/how-to-convert-stardict-dictionary-file-format-to-any-readable-format
[02:28] <leftyfb> usacomputertec: there's no activex for ubuntu or any linux distro
[02:28] <travis__> keplar: if you looking for all in one, have you seen this one: http://www.gateway.com/programs/zxseries/index.php?cmpid=topnav_computers
[02:28] <travis__> i think its multitouch and stuff
[02:28] <pcw> ps2pdf:Super thanks
[02:29] <hiexpo> Kemp_Family,  ^
[02:29] <keplar> nah, looking for a tablet/slate
[02:29] <Kemp_Family> yes
[02:29] <travis__> oh
[02:29] <keplar> like an ipad i guess, but with good software :D
[02:29] <actionParsnip> leftyfb: try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install nautilus   it may reset the default apps in gconf
[02:29] <h07> travis_   hah mock up to me!
[02:29] <keplar> i think the asus eeepad will be my choice when it (maybe) comes out next year
[02:29] <hiexpo> Kemp_Family, so is that whats going on ?
[02:29] <elegantchaos> i want an ipad with real software too
[02:30] <Kemp_Family> same as before
[02:30] <soreau> Kemp_Family: Assuming your routers ip is 192.168.1.1, can you try this? sudo killall NetworkManager && sudo /sbin/route del default && sudo /sbin/ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.110 && sudo /sbin/route add default gw 192.168.1.1 && sudo /sbin/iptables -F && sudo /sbin/iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT && sudo /sbin/iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT && sudo /sbin/iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT
[02:30] <keplar> i saw someone put ubuntu on an archos 9, seemed pretty decent
[02:30] <octavio-rdz> hi room what is the best solution for remote desktop ... I have tried vnc but is slow ... comparing it to Win. solution (RDP)
[02:30] <ps2pdf> usacomputertec: under wine, you can install IE6 in Ubuntu 10.04
[02:30] <travis__> for tablet(at least there called tablet) i found a HP and Lenovo and Fujitsu
[02:30] <actionParsnip> octavio-rdz: why do you want to view the remote desktop?
[02:30] <keplar> i dont want the keyboard deal, just a slate like an ipad
[02:30] <travis__> oh i get it now sorry
[02:30] <elegantchaos> remote desktop viewer works well for me
[02:31] <soreau> Kemp_Family: Then try to ping 8.8.8.8
[02:31] <h07> ohhh an IPAD with linux   (droooool)
[02:31] <blitzo> .
[02:31] <elegantchaos> ipad with linux   yesss ill take one
[02:31] <travis__> i think i found some now,    http://portables.about.com/od/otherdevices/tp/Slate_tablet_roundup.htm
[02:31] <blitzo> .
[02:31] <keplar> http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/04/asus-epad-like-the-eeepad-but-with-less-ecstasy/
[02:31] <dd__> .
[02:31] <h07> but i dont think linux is up to it
[02:31] <keplar> that is kinda what im looking for
[02:31] <travis__> that might be what your talking about it has a lot of slate
[02:31] <octavio-rdz> actionParsnip: I want to access my home computer from my office. (in a secure way)
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> h07:  by xmas time thers zuppsed to be several 'tablet' type devices out with linux/ubuntu
[02:32] <leftyfb> octanium: teamviewer.com
[02:32] <actionParsnip> octavio-rdz: but for what reason, there are usually more elegant solutions than vnc
[02:32] <elegantchaos> remote desktop viewer... should be fine
[02:32] <leftyfb> oops
[02:32] <leftyfb> octavio-rdz: teamviewer.com
[02:32] <keplar> checking that site out now, there are a lot of slates there
[02:32] <h07> Dr_Willis: from who?
[02:32] <elegantchaos> i use my iphone and remotetapp   it rocks
[02:33] <leftyfb> ditto
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> h07:  several makers are planing the devices.
[02:33] <leftyfb> works on linux, mac and windows, android and iphone
[02:33] <travis__> yes, its about the only one i found
[02:33] <h07> Dr_Willis: do please tell
[02:33] <Ubuntus> hello
[02:33] <octavio-rdz> teamviewer is vnc, rigth?
[02:33] <leftyfb> octavio-rdz: no
[02:33] <leftyfb> forget about vnc
[02:33] <Ubuntus> how can i upgrade my intel bios?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> h07:  you dident bother to look at the url that keplar  posted did you...
[02:33] <Kemp_Family> network is unreachable
[02:33] <leftyfb> it's slow and inefficient
[02:33] <DeM0nFiRe> Haha, I am sure I am gonna make someone cringe, but I made my menu more like the Windows XP Start menu :P
[02:33] <Ubuntus> i already downloaded the file
[02:34] <h07> Dr_Willis: looking now
[02:34] <Ubuntus> is a .BIO file
[02:34] <elegantchaos> lol i made mine Mac lol
[02:34] <octavio-rdz> actionParsnip: there are some times that I need a file that is my other computer, or sometime just see some downloads that I left
[02:34] <DeM0nFiRe> :P
[02:34] <ps2pdf> Kemp_Family: try in terminal: sudo dhclient
[02:34] <DeM0nFiRe> I even named the menu "Start" ahaha
[02:34] <soreau> Kemp_Family: You should file a bug report then. It should justwork OOTB
[02:35] <actionParsnip> octavio-rdz: use ssh with winscp
[02:35] <hiexpo> Kemp_Family, ok than upon hitting edit  click ipv4 than hit method  click manual than  hit add in add type     > pm me if ya wanna know the rest ok
[02:35] <leftyfb> octavio-rdz: use ssh for quick file transfers, use teamviewer for full remote desktop
[02:35] <octavio-rdz> leftyfb: it is not? I read that it was based on UltraVNC code
[02:35] <soreau> Kemp_Family: sudo dhclient eth0
[02:35] <elegantchaos> thats almost sick DeMo
[02:35] <travis__> haha i found a vdeo with ubuntu on iphone
[02:35] <actionParsnip> octavio-rdz: torrent cliebts have web interfaces
[02:35] <soreau> Kemp_Family: but you shouldnt have to do any of this because it should already be working
[02:35] <IdleOne> !ot | DeM0nFiRe elegantchaos
[02:35] <travis__> vvideo
[02:35] <Ubuntus> how can i upgrade my intel bios from the terminal?
[02:35] <h07> Dr_Willis: im only droooling on one side now!!
[02:35] <soreau> Kemp_Family: or actually, you need to configure it in sys>prefs>networking
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. why is it that with some of my usb flash drives in ubuntu i get major major slow speeds.. its getting annoying. WIth each kernel update, i  jhope it gets fixed. :(
[02:35] <elegantchaos> oops sorry admin
[02:35] <leftyfb> octavio-rdz: I stand corrected. Either way, it's VNC done right then. Just go try it. Doesn't really get any better than that
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> h07:  theres rumors of some in the $100 range also. but i will wait and see
[02:36] <ps2pdf> soreau: they should run it without the eth0, so it refreshes all interfaces
[02:36] <Ubuntus> how can i upgrade my intel bios from the terminal?
[02:36] <h07> Dr_Willis: I dought that really   cause the will be shit
[02:36] <keplar> dell needs to put a touch screen on the adamo xps and reverse the way the screen faces.  .4 inch thick tablet with actual notebook hardware
[02:36] <octavio-rdz> leftyfb: ok I am going to try it
[02:37] <IdleOne> h07: please keep the language clean
[02:37] <elegantchaos> i saw a less than $100 iPad like deal coming out of india
[02:37] <actionParsnip> Ubuntus: most can't. i've done a dell bios upgrade in terminal
[02:37] <h07> ok then    crap!
[02:37] <elegantchaos> its real
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> h07:  note that these things Are not going to be runnign windows.. that means they can use ARM and other cpus and save a lot of $$ :)
[02:37] <Ubuntus> actionParnsip: cna you tell me how?
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> h07:  at least Some of them are not going to be windows. :)
[02:38] <IdleOne> Dr_Willis: Can you please move this tablet convo to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:38] <octavio-rdz> actionParsnip: ok, thanks I am going to try winscp
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> going to work now anyway. :)
[02:38] <h07> Dr_Willis: I wouldnt but it unless some sort of linux
[02:38] <actionParsnip> octavio-rdz: see what I mean, there is usually a better solution than vnc. this is why i fnid it very vulgar. The only reason I can see vnc being used is for training and presentations over lan, otherwise there are much faster and sleeker solutions to why most users think they need vnc
[02:39] <h07> Dr_Willis: I wouldnt buy! it unless some sort of linux
[02:39] <Gametime> I'm trying to set up a windows 7 installation, on a RAID 0 array. However, i cannot install windows 7 without setting to AHCI in my bios, therefore defeating the problem. If i were to use my ubuntu installation (on a 3rd, seperate hard drive) and set up software raid, could i then install windows 7 on it?
[02:39] <Boondoc> Come join my new Chat server... its at irc.wyldryde.org and join #RiotChat
[02:39] <Gametime> creating a problem*
[02:39] <actionParsnip> !ot | Boondoc
[02:39] <travis__> im starting to move away from windows, tired of it being slow all the time, even on a fast computer
[02:39] <ps2pdf> actionParsnip: he already left
[02:39] <actionParsnip> bah
[02:39] <octavio-rdz> actionParsnip: wondering is vnc faster than a x remote session?
[02:40] <travis__> especially vista
[02:40] <actionParsnip> octavio-rdz: could try and test
[02:41] <Todd__> Hi all.  Anyone know how to reinstall nic drivers from command line?  When Ubuntu installed it installed the drivers but now the nic has changed.
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Todd__:  what 'nic' are you trying to uise?
[02:41] <leftyfb> Todd__: did remove or disable the previous "nic"?
[02:42] <Todd__> There are 2 actually.  One in the mobo which I assume will be more difficult.  I also have one in a pci slot.
[02:42] <leftyfb> Todd__: why do you need multiple nic's?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Todd__:  most wired nics should be just plug in the wire.. and they work
[02:42] <actionParsnip> octavio-rdz: many torrent clients have web clients so you can check your downloads from any PC and there are even smartphone apps which talk to some torrent apps
[02:42] <Todd__> It's just some basic nic card.  When I went to the manufacturer site they indicated it was integrated into the linux core.
[02:42] <Gametime> no answer?
[02:42] <leftyfb> Todd__: why do you need multiple nic's?
[02:42] <h07> Todd__: what OS?
[02:43] <Todd__> OS is Ubuntu server 10.  Need to because this is being configured as a firewall.
[02:43] <Todd__> to = two
[02:43] <octavio-rdz> actionParsnip: ok, going to look for one of those
[02:43] <IdleOne> Gametime: see ##windows for help with install
[02:44] <h07> Todd__: and it didnt pick them up?
[02:44] <a3> soreau: new error :(
[02:44] <Todd__> I had ubuntu server installed and working and mobo fried.  installed new mobo and it does not recognize the new mobo integrated network card.
[02:45] <Todd__> I installed a generic card in an pci slot to see if this would work and it does not see that one either.
[02:45] <leftyfb> Todd__: does sudo ifconfig eth0 ; sudo ifconfig eth1     show you both nic's?
[02:45] <h07> Todd__: does windows pick it up?
[02:45] <Todd__> It shows me only the pci slot card.
[02:46] <Todd__> If I remember correctly.
[02:46] <Evolution-X> is there any software to backup ubuntu
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Todd__:  you sure the onboard is not disabled in bios?  does lspci show both nics?
[02:46] <ridin> has anyone been able to download opera?
[02:46] <h07> Todd__: whats the new MB?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> ridin:  it works fine here.  theres even repos for it ir ecall
[02:47] <IdleOne> !backup > Evolution-X
[02:47] <leftyfb> Todd__: "cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules "   how many uncommented lines show up there?
[02:47] <ridin> Dr_Willis, where i can get the repos?
[02:47] <ridin> Dr_Willis, never mind, the download is working
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> ridin:  i thought it was in the aprtners repos.. or some PPA's
[02:48] <Todd__> I can't get to the box right now.  From what I remember the lspci showed one only.
[02:48] <Todd__> I will try the cat /etc... tomorrow when I can get to the box again.
[02:48] <hiexpo> ridin,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[02:48] <leftyfb> Todd__: please don't ask for assistance when you don't have access to the machine. It helps noone.
[02:49] <a3> anyone come know:"could not set the configuration for CRTC 136"????
[02:49] <Todd__> lefty I understand why the frustration but I was just looking for some suggestions.
[02:50] <leftyfb> Todd__: no suggestions can be given when all of the variables/data are unknown/assumed
[02:50] <Todd__> OK I'll check back tomorrow when in front of the box.  thanks.
[02:51] <a3> "could not set the configuration for CRTC 136" when changing resolution??
[02:51] <a3> anyone?
[02:52] <hiexpo> a3,  relax if someone knows they will help you
[02:52] <actionParsnip> ridin: http://gamblis.com/2010/05/08/opera-10-53-for-ubuntu-lucid-lynx/
[02:53] <a3> hiexpo: just making sure everyone's seen it ;)
[02:53] <wcomnisky> how can i append an argument in /proc/cmdline?
[02:54] <hiexpo> a3,  they did don't worry and if in 10 mins reask be patient it is your best virtue
[02:55] <kisuke> ok anyone knwo what "mac suspend failed" means?
[02:55] <a3> hiexpo: okok im new lol
[02:55] <hiexpo> a3,  :)
[02:59] <capleton> Hi, I'm trying to enable two-finger scrolling on my asus eee 1201n pc.  It is able to do it in windows.  I want to do the Xorg method.  But when I find my settings with synclient -m 150 and plub them in, I get erratic scrolling behavior.   even without emulatetwofingers enabled, whenever i touch the touchpad with two fingers, the cursor moves around eratically.   Does anyone know how I could get two-finger scrolling to work?
[03:00] <capleton> here's my synclient -;
[03:00] <capleton> *synclient -l
[03:00] <capleton> http://dpaste.com/222590/
[03:01] <nimbiotics> hello everybody. I just updated to 10.04 and am getting some troubles. To begin with the most important one; now I cannot, or don't know how to access, other (NTFS) partitions on this PC. I can only guess this is related to an error message I'm geting on startup: "An error occurred while mounting 'blkid. Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"(sic) I tried M once but, not knowing...
[03:01] <nimbiotics> ...what to do, haven't tried again. I can see the partitions with gpaterd and Disk Utility; but thats about it. What can I do?? TIA!
[03:02] <hiexpo> Kemp_Family,  did ya figure it out ?
[03:04] <sjm> nimbiotics, is it a dual boot machine?
[03:04] <nimbiotics> sjm: yes
[03:05] <sjm> nimbiotics, I get that when I suspend windows.  It is still marked as active so Ubuntu won't mount it to change anything.  boot back into windows and shutdown rather than suspending or hibernating and try again.
[03:05] <trollboy> so I backed up ~ and then formatted and re-installed ubuntu.  I copied .evolution and .evolution-backup from /backup to ~ and nothings there.  Thoughts?
[03:06] <nimbiotics> sjm: I dont thinks thats the case, but will give it a try, BRB
[03:09] <Ubuntus> Does the Gnome panel fix their bug yet? the one that if you by mistake delete the sond icon, it can no longer be there
[03:09] <Ubuntus> *sound icon
[03:10] <trism> Ubuntus: it's part of the indicator applet as of 10.04, so add that back to your panel
[03:10] <Ubuntus> It cant be added agaim, there is no such an option in the RMB
[03:11] <Ubuntus> theres is just a bunch of usless option in the add to panel menu
[03:11] <a3> add to panel indicator applet
[03:11] <Ubuntus> no sound icon there
[03:11] <trism> Ubuntus: there is no sound applet, it is part of Indicator Applet
[03:13] <niglop> which WM does the default ubuntu run on?
[03:13] <Ubuntus> WARNING: if you delete the sound icon on your Gnome panel, is over. No more soun icon for you
[03:14] <niglop> l2spell
[03:14] <IdleOne> Ubuntus: right click on the panel and add Indicator Applet
[03:14] <a3> Ubuntus: lol
[03:14] <trism> they really need to rename the indicator applet so we don't get this question constantly
[03:14] <IdleOne> !panels | Ubuntus also
[03:14] <Plecebo> I have a server using software raid in a esata enclosure. I physically moved the location of the server and the enclosure and now my raid array is resyncing am I loosing data?
[03:15] <niglop> which WM does the default ubuntu run on?
[03:15] <jasonwryan> niglop: metacity
[03:15] <niglop> o
[03:15] <Ubuntus> there is no such option. Maybe, i have it in spanish, a paste bin may help me, i do not want to delete the panel, i have try that before with devastating effects
[03:16] <Ubuntus> !help |Ubuntus also
[03:16] <Ubuntus> .....
[03:17] <IdleOne> Ubuntus: you can try asking in #ubuntu-es for help in Spanish if you prefer
[03:17] <Ubuntus> maybe i will
[03:17] <xangua> !panels | Ubuntus
[03:18] <guspur> !ping
[03:19] <Paddy_NI> ##politics
[03:19] <rav014> do linux get virus? because i got tons of virus
[03:20] <kisuke> what will cause a "mac suspend failed" error?
[03:20] <IdleOne> !virus | rav014
[03:20] <hiexpo> rav014,  no
[03:20] <Ubuntus> well, it reset, but no sound icon
[03:20] <Ubuntus> meh
[03:20] <rav014> because i use klamav and detected some virus
[03:20] <hiexpo> what ?
[03:20] <Ubuntus> let me go have some lunch, and then we will discuss it
[03:21] <vtuxbox> hello all  i would like to know how to enable usb2 for my USB HARDDISK
[03:21] <actionParsnip> rav014: are they in files that  a windows user uploaded?
[03:21] <hiexpo> usb does not exist
[03:21] <actionParsnip> vtuxbox: usb2 functionality is built into the kernel
[03:22] <hiexpo> ^usb2
[03:22] <vtuxbox> Jul 28 05:16:57 bt kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
[03:23] <rav014> ive downloaded wine from repository
[03:23] <hiexpo> vtuxbox,  that is backtrack
[03:23] <vtuxbox> yes
[03:23] <hiexpo> #backtrack-linux
[03:23] <vtuxbox> can't write in this room
[03:24] <vtuxbox> so i come here
[03:24] <vtuxbox> fo help
[03:24] <hiexpo> 1 sec
[03:24] <actionParsnip> hiexpo: nice catch :)
[03:24] <vtuxbox> :) catch me
[03:25] <hiexpo> actionParsnip,  :)
[03:25] <actionParsnip> vtuxbox: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[03:25] <vtuxbox> Codename:       intrepid
[03:26] <actionParsnip> vtuxbox: intrepid isnt supported anymore, it dies 2 months ago
[03:26] <actionParsnip> !intrepid
[03:26] <actionParsnip> *died, not dies
[03:26] <leftyfb> vtuxbox: you are using backtrack linux. It is not ubuntu and not supported here. Please seek support from backtrack linux
[03:26] <ZykoticK9> is bt is based off of intrepid?
[03:26] <leftyfb> vtuxbox: you are using backtrack linux. It is not ubuntu and not supported here. Please seek support from backtrack linux
[03:26] <vtuxbox> "_
[03:26] <hiexpo> vtuxbox,  /msg nickserv identify nic password        > go to freenode and paste that  replace nck with yours and pw with yours
[03:26] <actionParsnip> ZykoticK9: who knows
[03:27] <ZykoticK9> actionParsnip, i don't.  thus the question ;)
[03:27] <vtuxbox> thx u all guyz
[03:27] <nimbiotics> sjm: i'm still geting same message about 'blkid (sic) and cannot see other partitions. Last time I used XP I restarted the PC to ubunutu, but had left  some updates pending, nevertheless it was all after the upgrade to 10.04
[03:28] <hylian> anyone ever heard of a weather applet that plays an audible tone or something. i would like something that gives me a heads up, sometimes im really into whatever I am doing, and would like to be warned.
[03:28] <hiexpo> vtuxbox,  welcome
[03:28] <actionParsnip> ZykoticK9: i'd ask in the backtrack channel, just sounds like an old release to me
[03:29] <actionParsnip> nimbiotics: i'd boot to windows and chkdsk the partiton to make sure its healthy
[03:29] <xangua> hylian: the indicator applet gives you notification when the weather changes
[03:29] <xangua> indicator applet is still in development
[03:30] <ZykoticK9> actionParsnip, i was worried the lsb_release command would not return anything bt specific, and in this case it didn't.  it would be handy to be able to give a command to identify bt.
[03:30] <nimbiotics> actionParsnip: Thanks, will try that
[03:31] <hylian> xangua i dont think your getting what i am saying, i dont look at the weather every two seconds, and i work with apss that cover the top bar. i need it to audibly alert me
[03:31] <blut> hello
[03:31] <actionParsnip> ZykoticK9: i believe if you get the full output of -a then it will show
[03:31] <blut> i just configured mutt and now i get Sorting mailbox...Segmentation fault
[03:33] <hiexpo> actionParsnip,  - it kinda helps when ya know bt commands just happened to catch it   :)
[03:33] <hiexpo> actionParsnip,  thanx
[03:33] <astropirate> what does WINE stand for?
[03:33] <vtuxbox> hiexpo
[03:33] <hylian> xangua, is it audible?
[03:34] <vtuxbox> them not answering me  [maybe sleeps ]
[03:34] <xangua> hylian: no, it just gives you a visual notification
[03:34] <xangua> notify osd uses ubuntu by default
[03:34] <vtuxbox> do u have any guide i could take
[03:34] <vtuxbox> ?
[03:34] <astropirate> anyone knwo what does WINE stand for?
[03:34] <sweetpi> astropirate: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[03:34] <vtuxbox> windos emulator
[03:34] <hiexpo> yes vtuxbox  ?
[03:34] <vtuxbox> please help me  with anyguide to fix my problem
[03:35] <KE1HA> Windows is Not An Emulator
[03:35] <KE1HA> wow, Im slow today :-)
[03:35] <astropirate> thanks
[03:35] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, Windows? don't you mean wine?
[03:35] <Evolution-X> i feel like sharing this  http://portablelinuxapps.org/
[03:35] <KE1HA> LOL Noi I ment WiDoze .. LOL but put Windows :-)
[03:36] <niglop> whats the command to fsck on a device?
[03:36] <KE1HA> But yes, the real acronym is Wine .. .. ..
[03:36] <ZykoticK9> niglop, technically you fsck file systems, not devices
[03:36] <hiexpo> astropirate,  http://skytel.co.cr/linux/research/1997/0406.htm
[03:36] <niglop> ok then ZykoticK9  how
[03:36] <niglop> USB
[03:37] <ZykoticK9> niglop, what file system are you using?
[03:37] <niglop> sdb1
[03:37] <hiexpo> vtuxbox,  what is ure prob?
[03:37] <Jewfro-Macabbi> niglop, sudo fsck /dev/sdb1
[03:37] <ZykoticK9> nightwish, sdb1 is what filesystem?
[03:37] <ZykoticK9> niglop, above!  sorry other guy.
[03:37] <niglop> thanks
[03:37] <hylian> weather report is soo much better than indicator applet. i like being able to click on weather report and get my weekly forecast, current weather data... weather report with an audible and/or silent alert would be perfect...hmm.
[03:38] <vtuxbox> i need to run my usb harddisk normaly
[03:38] <hiexpo> sdb1 is flash drive
[03:38] <niglop> yes same thing -.-
[03:38] <actionParsnip> astropirate: The name Wine derives from the recursive acronym Wine Is Not an Emulator. While the name sometimes appears in the forms WINE and wine, the project developers have agreed to standardize on the form Wine
[03:39] <h07> hello all
[03:39] <dignan> Why is it that dpkg --listfiles only reveals documentation files were installed for libglut3 and libglut3-dev? Shouldn't there be a shared library and header file?
[03:39] <astropirate> wow lots of drama with wine :p
[03:40] <Guest23762> what is wine?
[03:40] <dignan> software that emulates winapi so you can run windows apps on linux
[03:40] <ZykoticK9> !wine | Guest23762
[03:40] <Mr_Sonoma> !wine > Guest23762
[03:40] <hiexpo> vtuxbox,    ^ was that directed at me u need to run usb persistent  ?
[03:41] <hiexpo> brb
[03:41] <h07> Guest23762: is a lovely drink :P
[03:41] <Guest23762> so with wine you run windows programs?
[03:41] <Oer> no
[03:41] <leftyfb> yes
[03:41] <xangua> Guest23762: someones
[03:42] <Mr_Sonoma> Guest23762, yes, some. some don't play well in my experience.
[03:42] <xangua> !appdb | Guest23762
[03:42] <astropirate> wow i got RUSE to run under ubuntu :DDD i'm soo happy
[03:42] <astropirate> now to write a tut for others..
[03:43] <Guest23762> how do you install wine?
[03:43] <Mr_Sonoma> Guest23762, sudo apt-get install wine
[03:43] <ridin> Guest23762, in the terminal put sudo apt-get install wine
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> Guest23762, try to find native linux applications to replace the ones you used in windows (you'll be happier in the long run).  Use wine for gaming.
[03:44] <actionParsnip> Guest23762: theres a wine ppa as well  which will give a later build which may help in some cases. Wine is a very strange animal.
[03:44] <noisewaterphd> if you have a copy of windows already I would just install VMWare Player (free), install your windows on it and then run it in unity mode
[03:44] <noisewaterphd> works far better than wine
[03:44] <hiexpo> !pm | vtuxbox  thats not kool
[03:44] <astropirate> noisewaterphd: but it is horrible for full-screen games
[03:45] <noisewaterphd> ya but so is wine
[03:45] <actionParsnip> astropirate: halflife2 and Doom3 run amazingly here in fullscreen
[03:45] <ZykoticK9> Guest23762, in regards to noisewaterphd suggestion, i'd suggest VirtualBox over VMWare, but neither are ANY good at full screen gaming!
[03:45] <astropirate> i couldn't get it to run anything fulscreen
[03:45] <astropirate> but underwine got halflife2 and ruse and ageof empires 2 to work fine
[03:45] <noisewaterphd> if your intent is to play fullscreen games you should just be booting into windows
[03:45] <h07> Guest23762: wine for games is crap
[03:45] <vtuxbox> i  have problem with my USB HD run slowwwwwwww  .   my system read it as "kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk"
[03:45] <astropirate> with a little performance loss ofcourse
[03:45] <vtuxbox> lsb_release -c
[03:45] <vtuxbox> Codename:       intrepid
[03:45] <sweetpi> actionParsnip: doom 3 has a native linux client
[03:46] <vtuxbox> what i could do plz
[03:46] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9: ya, or virtualbox, also works very well
[03:46] <leftyfb> vtuxbox: you are running backtrack linux, NOT UBUNTU. Please seek support from Backtrack Linux.
[03:46] <ZykoticK9> !intrepid | vtuxbox
[03:46] <ZykoticK9> !eol | vtuxbox
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> vtuxbox, see that last link ;)  good luck man.
[03:47] <vtuxbox> +okie
[03:47] <actionParsnip> sweetpi: true, i couldnt get it to run though and wine was more than acceptable
[03:48] <KE1HA> Also check out PlayOnLinux ... works well for many things.
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> sweetpi, actionParsnip my list of native games http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/gaming mostly FPSs
[03:49] <h07> all robots must die
[03:49] <Jibkat> Who wants some panda fries?
[03:49] <Jibkat> I made enough for everyone
[03:50] <rww> !ot | h07, Jibkat
[03:51] <dlopez12> Hi
[03:51] <dlopez12> this is my first time using IRC...just wanted to confirm it was working
[03:51] <Mr_Sonoma> !hi dlopez12
[03:51] <dlopez12> hi MR_Sonoma
[03:51] <Mr_Sonoma> !hi | dlandau
[03:51] <dlopez12> I guess it is
[03:52] <h07> who   htat bot is busy
[03:52] <Guest23762> i have installed wine now what do i do?
[03:52] <Mr_Sonoma> lol and i messed up twice in a row too :(
[03:53] <sweetpi> ZykoticK9: Nice. I don't really play games much. But any I find that have native installers, I buy to show support.
[03:53] <h07> perhaps a traitor to you
[03:53] <zenergi> Are mod_evasive + mod_security the best defense against web based DOS/DDOS attacks? Would iptables be better suited for the rate-limiting tasks?
[03:54] <dlopez12> this is just a quick question about bots in IRC...what do they actually do?
[03:54] <leftyfb> actionParsnip: fixed my issue with places items opening up with firefox instead of nautilus. Problem is described here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/260492
[03:54] <zenergi> dlopez12: think of them as scripts that react to commands
[03:54] <wrektjet> how can i get a file that is over 4 gig onto a usb? do i format the usb with gparted into etxt3?
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> Guest23762, assuming Gnome, double click on a windows EXE file and you'll probably get an error about executable, so right click the EXE properties and put a checkmark in "make executable" and apply it.  Then double click on the EXE again and it should start.  You want the EXE installs, or if they are installed on a windows partition you can try those as well (might fail due to missing install stuff though)
[03:54] <dlopez12> oh ok, thx zenergi
[03:54] <ridin> somehow the sound options are stretched too much vertically that i can't resize it to see all the options?
[03:55] <noisewaterphd> zenergi: mod_sec is a must IMO, but yes, I use iptables for rate limiting still
[03:55] <surfereddie> hello
[03:55] <ZykoticK9> sweetpi, those are all games i OWN legal copies of the windows CD
[03:55] <zenergi> dlopez12: they can also be used like a wiki. so common questions in the channel can be quickly (or automagically) answered
[03:55] <surfereddie> Anybody in here using FreeNX
[03:56] <zenergi> noisewaterphd: i was thinking itables woudl be best since it's most efficient being a kernel level function
[03:56] <soreau> ! anybody | surfereddie
[03:56] <ZykoticK9> sweetpi, i'm really disappointed about iD dropping linux support :(  Hopeful about Steam though :)  Long live linux gaming (although I too don't really game anymore, none installed right now)
[03:56] <zenergi> noisewaterphd: any thoughts/experience with mod_evasive?
[03:56] <noisewaterphd> zenergi: never used it
[03:56] <sweetpi> ZykoticK9: I wasn't implying that you didnt. sorry if it came off that way. i was just saying even though i dont play games, i still buy them to show support.
[03:56] <noisewaterphd> I was just googling it
[03:57] <h07> ZykoticK9: PC games on ubuntu?
[03:57] <ZykoticK9> sweetpi, it didn't - i was just agreeing with you!
[03:57] <surfereddie> Does anybody have FreeNX working?  I tried to install it and now I cannot uninstall it.
[03:57] <actionParsnip> !games | h07
[03:57] <zenergi> noisewaterphd: thats about my level of experience iwth it too :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1142222 , was the best link i found
[03:57] <sweetpi> ZykoticK9: oh ok :)
[03:57] <zenergi> best ubuntu related link
[03:57] <thune3> wrektjet: sure ext2/ext3. Or you sould split the file, if reconstructing it later is feasable.
[03:57] <noisewaterphd> zenergi: thx
[03:58] <wrektjet> just chiming in - i spent loads of time trying to get COD working on 9.04 and never succeded
[03:58] <sweetpi> ZykoticK9: I heard the rumors about id. is it official?
[03:58] <natex> surfereddie: you having a problem with it?
[03:58] <h07> hey   that bot is doing over time!
[03:58] <dlopez12> !help
[03:59] <ZykoticK9> sweetpi, they haven't released anything since Quake Wars for linux i think, i believe it's pretty official they aren't continuing 'cause it ain't profitable :(
[03:59] <surfereddie> @natex; yes it will not overwrite a NX user.  And I don't know how to get rid of the files
[03:59] <wrektjet> thune3, i just realized - will i be able to get it onto my windows install? i am having trouble getting data from one partition to another i thought just putting it on a usb would be easiest but that hasnt worked out so far
[03:59] <natex> surfereddie: not sure what you mean "overwrite a NX user"
[03:59] <h07> wrektjet: from where?
[04:00] <surfereddie> natex: prior install
[04:01] <surfereddie> natex: it creates a user.  their were problems with the first install now their are dir / folders with X's and I can't even see the files in them to delete them
[04:01] <wrektjet> h07, from my ext3 hdd onto a diff hdd with a win7 partition, the / directory, and another ext4 partition. dont ask btw how this came to be. i was even n00bier than now :)
[04:02] <natex> surfereddie: did you use --purge ?
[04:02] <wrektjet> there shoud be a test users have to pass before being allowed access to gparted :)
[04:02] <surfereddie> natex: no is that a command or program
[04:02] <sweetpi> ZykoticK9: I didnt think they released anything for PC at all since quake wars
[04:03] <cesar001> hi roommates
[04:03] <cesar001> how is everything?
[04:03] <natex> surfereddie: remove it with 'sudo apt-get purge PACKAGENAME'
[04:03] <aaron_> i have a iso for win7 but not a big enough flashdrive to hold it.  can i install it directly from the harddrive some how?
[04:03] <h07> wrektjet: so  have you booted from a live cd?
[04:04] <actionParsnip> wrektjet: to mount ntfs: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[04:04] <ZykoticK9> sweetpi, i'm pretty sure something come out since then (i have SOMETHING in memory) that sparked the whole linux not supported anymore.
[04:05] <sweetpi> ZykoticK9: ah .. there was a new wolfenstein. :/
[04:05] <natex> surfereddie: there is a nxserver PPA you should use. search launchpad for
[04:05] <natex> freenx team
[04:06] <actionParsnip> !ppa
[04:06] <actionParsnip> surfereddie: use taht link to search ;)
[04:07] <natex> surfereddie: I'm using freenx on Lucid, and it works perfectly for me.
[04:07] <zcom> hi
[04:07] <kisuke> ok any know hot to fix mac suspend errors on the b3 driver?
[04:07] <kisuke> b43*
[04:07] <wrektjet> h07 actionParsnip thnx i made a mistake even asking the Q. it seems to be working fine in 10.04! i should have checked. my problems date back to 9.04. All is well!
[04:07] <ZykoticK9> !wfm > natex ;)
[04:08] <therealpsychx> hey there
[04:08] <xiehaijun> 840706
[04:08] <surfereddie> natex: I have FreeNX Stable PPA.  that was my original install but it did not install correctly so went to nomachine.com and tried to install theirs
[04:09] <surfereddie> natex: with SSH
[04:10] <lolmac233> hi, is it possible for me to use a computer both locally and remotely at the same time with ubuntu?
[04:10] <zcom> hello
[04:10] <ZykoticK9> lolmac233, yes - using VARIOUS methods, including command line and gui apps.
[04:10] <zcom> The theme of networks can talk it?
[04:10] <peepingtom> lolmac: yes
[04:10] <natex> surfereddie: I see. You should still be able to sudo apt-get purge the packages
[04:11] <zcom> sorry for my enlgish
[04:11] <zcom> Iam spanish
[04:11] <ZykoticK9> !es | zcom
[04:11] <zcom> but I lleartn
[04:11] <tuti_> oi
[04:11] <zcom> ok thnks
[04:11] <surfereddie> natex:  where are the package names?
[04:11] <ZykoticK9> zcom, IF you wanted spanish support - stay here if you want english.
[04:11] <natex> surfereddie: you tell me, you installed them :)
[04:12] <natex> surfereddie: there should be 3 packages from nomachine... client, node, server
[04:12] <lolmac233> hi
[04:12] <surfereddie> natex: sorry, nx: client, node and server
[04:12] <lolmac233> is it possible for me to do it in windows?
[04:12] <lolmac233> sorry
[04:13] <lolmac233> ubuntu?
[04:13] <natex> lolmac233: do what??
[04:13] <korben> [lolmac233]: to do what in windows?
[04:13] <h07> lolmac233: ??
[04:13] <surfereddie> natex: where are they listed so I know thier names in terminnal
[04:13] <kisuke> modulle backlists are ususally in /etc/modprobe.d/ right?
[04:14] <ZykoticK9> !blacklists | kisuke
[04:14] <jeremy77> I just did fresh install ubuntu 10.04 64 bit and just have a couple things I need help on.  I have my num lock set on in bios but it shuts off at log in screen and I need to set up ati graphics card.  guess I will start with num lock. how do I get ubuntu to leave num lock on at boot instead of shutting it off?
[04:15] <ZykoticK9> !blacklist | kisuke
[04:15] <natex> surfereddie: you can see what is installed with dpkg -l
[04:15] <kisuke> ZykoticK9: close enough, thanks.
[04:15] <natex> surfereddie: filter that with dpkg -l | grep nx
[04:15] <cornwallis_> anyone know how to simulate the "next song" button by pressing something like cntrl+shift+. ?
[04:15] <korben> [jeremy77]: once u log in to your account numlock stays open
[04:16] <korben> no matter if the lamp is closed at ur loggin screen
[04:16] <peepingtom> If I have a VPN connection and a bunch of computers on a LAN, can I just have them all connect to the VPN separately or do I have to set up some sort of special server and routing?
[04:16] <peepingtom> I mean like having 2 computers use networkmanager to connect to the same VPN account
[04:16] <natex> peepingtom: one has to be the server
[04:17] <ZykoticK9> cornwallis_, system / preferences / keyboard shortcuts -- Next Track
[04:17] <natex> peepingtom: one has to be the server
[04:17] <cornwallis_> ZykoticK9: i love you
[04:17] <KE1HA> Quesiton about CPU speed: IN the system monitor, my Laptops CPU-Speed = 1.73Ghz, but when checking /proc/cpuinfo it says cpu Mhz = 798 MHZ, any cluses as to what's going on there?
[04:18] <korben> so much love and affection that is what ubuntu is all about :P
[04:18] <thoma582> except at times
[04:18] <thoma582> where you get so frustrated
[04:18] <thoma582> and you want to just reformat
[04:18] <lolmac233> hi, is it possible for me to log in automatically with a remote account in ubuntu?
[04:18] <lolmac233> h07, natex
[04:18] <korben> [ThomasB2k]: never!
[04:18] <lolmac233> i wanted to log a remote account in ubuntu
[04:19] <Guest23762> what's a good tutorial for wine? website?
[04:19] <peepingtom> natex: thanks
[04:19] <h07> love and affection    OT   me thinks :P
[04:19] <natex> lolmac233: log in graphically? or via shell?
[04:19] <lolmac233> when ubuntu starts it asks for a user and password,  but it logs another user (a remote one) automatically
[04:19] <lolmac233> via shell
[04:19] <surfereddie> natex:  ran purge on nxserver and cannot shutdown nxserver error
[04:19] <lolmac233> but i could access it remotely  from another computer
[04:19]  * ThomasB2k dislikes the constant join/part messages in this channel
[04:19] <KE1HA> lolmac233, use PGP & SSH Authentication. Just make sure your the only one that's going to use the computer to access the remote machine.
[04:20] <ThomasB2k> bbl
[04:20] <korben> h07 that is what ubuntu is all about m8
[04:20] <natex> surfereddie: you'll have to stop the service I guess. Do you know how?
[04:20] <sixofour> okay, this is retarded, when ever the mouse lock on my laptop ios rpessed, the keyboard stops working untill reboot, applications do not work, terminal does not work, clcking icons doesn't work, nor does restarting...the only option is to hard reset....sorry for saying this, but what the fuck
[04:20] <ZykoticK9> Guest23762, to be honest i don't remember seeing a "good" wine tutuorial.  FYI from command line you can run "wine ApplicationName.exe" and it won't give permission issues.
[04:20] <h07> korben: hehe   still ####OT
[04:20] <jeremy77> I have a ati HD2600xt so do I have to remove default driver before i download and install the amd drivers?
[04:20] <lolmac233> KE1HA, ok thanks, also, do you know if ubuntu supports concurrent remote sessions?
[04:20] <Guest23762> thanks zkykotick
[04:21] <digitalfiz> even from cli wine wants the exe to be executible
[04:21] <Mr_Sonoma> lolmac233, yes i do it all the time
[04:21] <lolmac233> 1 user using the computer locally (user A account ) and another user using it remotely (user b account)
[04:21] <Guest23762> how do you add applications to wine?
[04:21] <Guest23762> libraries?
[04:22] <lolmac233> hmm, so is it possible to make the account log on automatically?
[04:22] <korben> i don't remember openning an actually usefull app with wine except a game or two
[04:22] <natex> lolmac233: yes you can do that. You'll need either vnc or freenx
[04:22] <KE1HA> How do you mean concurrent ?
[04:22] <surfereddie> natex: no I do not
[04:22] <keen101> I need some help with X.org. or is it X11? anyway...i need some help
[04:22] <lolmac233> KE1HA, at the same time, two or more accounts accessed/used simultaneously
[04:22] <lolmac233> in the same computer
[04:23] <argyle> keen101: what's your question?
[04:23] <sixofour> okay, when ever the mouse lock on my laptop ios rpessed, the keyboard stops working untill reboot, applications do not work, terminal does not work, clcking icons doesn't work, nor does restarting...the only option is to hard reset....how do i fix this, the mouse lock button completely breaks linux :@
[04:23] <ZykoticK9> Guest23762, get the installers for the stuff you need as you would in windows - download the EXEs, then install them using wine.  you might also want to check out the winetricks script, pretty handy for stuff.
[04:23] <h07> keen101: what the problem?
[04:23] <KE1HA> Yes, by putting your Public Signature on the remote computer, when you log via SSH, no PW is required.
[04:23] <therealpsychx> Guest23762: Typically, if you install it via Wine, it will be added to the Program Files menu. You can also find the wine directory at: /home/username/.wine/drive_c
[04:23] <keen101> i wanted to re-enable the GDM restart with Ctrl Alt Backspace and used the command setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_f9
[04:23] <keen101> now i need to know how to undo that....
[04:24] <Guest23762> this is day 1 for me with wine....little confused
[04:24] <guest1> what' wrong with wine?
[04:24] <ZykoticK9> !dontzap | keen101
[04:24] <h07> keen101: thats confusing
[04:25] <Mr_Sonoma> keen101, graphical way is to go to system > preferences > keyboard > layouts > options > key sequence to kill x server
[04:25] <therealpsychx> Guest23762: If you download, or use from a CD or something, an .exe - you should be able to double-click, or right-click and open with wine. It should run in Wine and install within Wine.
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> keen101, OHHH sorry i have no idea about your issue!  i never used the setxkbmap before.  good luck man.
[04:25] <h07> !dontzap | keen101
[04:25] <sixofour> okay, when ever the mouse lock on my laptop ios rpessed, the keyboard stops working untill reboot, applications do not work, terminal does not work, clcking icons doesn't work, nor does restarting...the only option is to hard reset....how do i fix this, the mouse lock button completely breaks linux :@
[04:25] <therealpsychx> Guest23762: Then if you go to Applications > Wine > Program Files - it should be in there.
[04:25] <keen101> i used the command "setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_f9" from  a terminal. It doesent work the way i wanted to. And yes, i figured out the graphical way. But, when i press CTRl_ALT_F9 the screen blacks out.
[04:26] <Guest23762> really....wow
[04:26] <bsmith0931> does totem support dvd menus on a commercial dvd?
[04:26] <therealpsychx> It might also put an icon on your Desktop.
[04:26] <jeremy77> is it ok to down load and install ati proprietary driver while ubuntu default video driver is running?
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> keen101, so press ctrl+alt+f7 or f8
[04:26] <therealpsychx> bsmith0931: Not sure about totem, but VLC does for sure.
[04:26] <bsmith0931> thx
[04:26] <jaybee> pop quiz: how do you launch a document (e.g. mydoc.pdf, myspreadsheet.xls) from an xterm, if you don't know what application it's associated with?
[04:26] <keen101> ZykoticK9, huh?
[04:27] <ubuser> is ubuntu different than dos or do i download linux versions
[04:27] <h07> keen101: CTRL_ATL_F9 is a terminal
[04:27] <keen101> oh.
[04:27] <Guest23762> i am finished with my wine tonight....little drunk thanks for the help
[04:27] <Guest23762> trying to find the door
[04:27] <h07> Guest23762: too much wine :P
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> keen101, h07 actually it's a virtual x terminal to be more precise.  if you had multiple x sessions running you might see something there.
[04:28] <cutterjohn> hi guys
[04:28] <therealpsychx> Guest23762.. had me laughing.
[04:28] <guest1> Guest23762
[04:28] <guest1> http://translate.google.ru/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntologia.ru%2Fwine&sl=ru&tl=en
[04:28] <h07> ZykoticK9: thats my point!
[04:28] <jaybee> never mind, I've found it - "gnome-open"
[04:29] <keen101> Okay, so your saying that that was already a shortcut for a terminal? well... how to get out of the terminal if i got into it?
[04:29] <sixofour> okay, when ever the mouse lock on my laptop ios rpessed, the keyboard stops working untill reboot, applications do not work, terminal does not work, clcking icons doesn't work, nor does restarting...the only option is to hard reset....how do i fix this, the mouse lock button completely breaks linux :@
[04:29] <cutterjohn> anyone else having problems with absolute crap wake from suspend with 10.4 as in it's actually faster to reboot?
[04:29] <therealpsychx> guest1: HE just signed off. =/
[04:29] <ZykoticK9> h07, what's your point?
[04:29] <surfereddie> natex:  it's gone.  I'm going to reinstall it but wanted to know before you go if you are using SSH and putty on a Win client?
[04:29] <natex> sixofour: sounds like a driver issue
[04:29] <tensorpudding> if i wanted to mount an encrypted /home/user partition from a different ubuntu, how might i go about it?
[04:29] <ZykoticK9> h07, are you using gdmflexiserver or something?
[04:29] <korben> everybody is completely ignoring poor sixofour and i can't help him out :(
[04:29] <sixofour> lol
[04:30] <natex> surfereddie: I use putty and nxserver for my remote needs/
[04:30] <h07> ZykoticK9: CTRL_ATL_F9 is a terminal
[04:30] <therealpsychx> korben: What's going on?
[04:30] <sixofour> okay, when ever the mouse lock on my laptop ios rpessed, the keyboard stops working untill reboot, applications do not work, terminal does not work, clcking icons doesn't work, nor does restarting...the only option is to hard reset....how do i fix this, the mouse lock button completely breaks linux :@
[04:30] <ZykoticK9> h07, not a terminal - but an Xorg window
[04:30] <surfereddie> natex: what about SSH?
[04:30] <sixofour> tat @ therealpsychx
[04:30] <natex> surfereddie: yes
[04:30] <sixofour> that*
[04:30] <tensorpudding> As in, I'm running a different Ubuntu instance on the same machine, with the partition containing the ecryptfs home.
[04:30] <cutterjohn> anyone else on wake from suspend total shit response?
[04:30] <natex> surfereddie: nx needs ssh
[04:30] <ZykoticK9> h07, F1-F6 are terminals
[04:30] <h07> ZykoticK9: CTRL_ATL_F7 is not that?
[04:30] <therealpsychx> sixofour: So you press the mouse lock, then can't get out of it - or do anything at all? Then you hold the power button on the laptop?
[04:30] <korben> [therealpsychx]: he has crushes because of mouselock ?
[04:30] <sixofour> therealpsychx pressing mouse lock pretty much breaks linux
[04:31] <ZykoticK9> h07, 7-10 are GUI "terminals"
[04:31] <surfereddie> thanks so much for the help!!!
[04:31] <sixofour> i turn it off, but nothing works after
[04:31] <keen101> ....interesting....
[04:31] <h07> ZykoticK9: no no no
[04:31] <sixofour> and i have to do a hard reset
[04:31] <joeb3_> cutterjohn, I get a blank white screen.  I just type my password and hit enter.  It works
[04:31] <therealpsychx> sixofour: Just wondering, what kind of laptop is it?
[04:31] <sixofour> the mouse works after i turn it off, but everything else doesn't
[04:31] <sixofour> hp
[04:31] <h07> ZykoticK9: noly F7 is a GUI
[04:31] <therealpsychx> sixofour: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:32] <sixofour> the latest
[04:32] <guest1> alt+f7 is GUI
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> h07, yes yes yes.  they are Xorg--Virtual-Terminals - i don't know there technical name.  F7 F8 F9 & F10 yes are GUI
[04:32] <cutterjohn> joeb3, not my problem I get the hdd going apeshit and the system not responding to anything other than ALT-SYSRQ+RSEINUB unless I wait c. 5m
[04:32] <subspider> hello guys
[04:32] <keen101> okay, cool. so i didnt mess up my system. I just tried Ctrl_Alt_F9 on another machine and it went black too, so i guess it is a terminal
[04:32] <natex> h07: you can have F8 and more too
[04:32] <korben> i am sure it is just a driver thing, i am sure that the mouse lock is translated with something else that is not supported and crashes
[04:32] <h07> ZykoticK9:  well thats not so  ONLY one is gui
[04:33] <keen101> ....but... typing "exit" doesent do anything...hmmm
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> h07, you can have multiple!
[04:33] <therealpsychx> sixofour: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[04:33] <cutterjohn> joeb3 just faster to emerg reboot by ALT-SYSRQ
[04:33] <h07> ZykoticK9:  not by default
[04:33] <keen101> how do i exit that terminal?
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> h07, gdmflexiserver and log in as another user - only one user at a time!
[04:33] <sixofour> let me check
[04:33] <joeb3_> cutterjohn, ok
[04:33] <sixofour> yes therealpsychx
[04:33] <subspider> when i press ctrl + alt +f5 my cli gives me theses errors constantly unable to enumerate usb device on port 3
[04:33] <subspider> hub cannot disable port 3 (error=-32)
[04:33] <subspider> usb device not accepting adress 0 , error =-71
[04:34] <natex> h07: try it... in ubuntu log inas another user. then use ctrl+alt+f7/f8 to swith back and forth
[04:34] <nimbiotics> hello everybody. I just updated to 10.04 and am getting weird behaviour. To begin with the most important one; now I cannot, or don't know how to access, other (NTFS) partitions on this PC. I can only guess this is related to an error message I'm getting on startup: "An error occurred while mounting 'blkid. Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"(sic) I tried M once but, not...
[04:34] <nimbiotics> ...knowing what to do, haven't tried again. I can see the partitions with gparted and Disk Utility; but thats about it. What can I do?? TIA!
[04:34] <cutterjohn> (this IS a CLEAN install BTW)
[04:34] <therealpsychx> sixofour: Ok
[04:34] <cutterjohn> (x86-64)
[04:34] <kisuke> is there any way to disable ipv6?
[04:34] <h07> ZykoticK9:  another user maybe   but not by default
[04:35] <ZykoticK9> h07, i don't understand why you can't try it and see - all by default.  (but yes your system would need 2 users)
[04:35] <cutterjohn> maybe I should go to a different chat room for my problem?
[04:35] <digitalfiz> nimbiotics, sounds liek the partitions werent cleanly unmounted so you may have to boot into windows and run chkdsk and reboot a few more times to fix the partition then boot back into ubuntu
[04:36] <keen101> okay. nevermind. i guess Ctrl_Alt_F7 exits from the strange terminals.....wierd. Thanks guys!!!
[04:36] <h07> ZykoticK9:  thats a mote point
[04:36] <natex> ZykoticK9: h07 sorry to butt in. but a single user can have two gui sessions. Use startx -- :1 for another gui session
[04:36] <h07> ZykoticK9: only F7 is a GUI
[04:36] <natex> ZykoticK9: h07 man startx
[04:36] <guest1> Press the key combination <Ctrl> + <Alt> + <F2>. You will be back to prompt login:. However, this is not a return to the top of the system - you just switched to another virtual terminal. Here you can register under a different name. Try to log in as the newly instigated user. Then press the key combination <Ctrl> + <Alt> + <F1>. You will return to the first screen. By  default, Red Hat Linux opens when you start 6 parallel sessions of work  (virtual terminals)
[04:36] <korben> [keen101]: lol that is not a strange terminal that is the actuall terminal
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> natex, i wouldn't do that if i where you.  that feature was removed from GDM for a reason.
[04:37] <korben> [keen101]: and u get to it by alt+F1 alt+F2 and get away from it with alt+F7
[04:37] <natex> ZykoticK9: what's the reason?
[04:37] <therealpsychx> sixofour: I'm trying to figure it out, hold on a sec.
[04:37] <korben> [keen101]: that is the actuall linux terminal :P
[04:37] <sixofour> k
[04:37] <nimbiotics> digitalfiz: i ran chkdsk a while ago on both disks, booted back to windows and then back to ubuntu; same thing :(
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> natex, multiple files in home dir being written at the same time.
[04:37] <keen101> okay, then why cant i type anyhting in that terminal?
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> natex, i believe it only messes with the user account, it's not really a system issue.
[04:37] <h07> a user cant have two gui terminals by default
[04:37] <korben> [keen101]: u have to login
[04:38] <korben> [keen101]: because it is a terminal like "outside" of the desktop enviroment
[04:38] <keen101> interesting.
[04:38] <kisuke> !ipv6 >kisuke
[04:38] <natex> ZykoticK9: I see. not really an issue unless you have a clone of yourself working remotely :)
[04:38] <oo> does anyone get random crashes with xchat-gnome?
[04:38] <digitalfiz> nimbiotics, you have to run chkdsk and fix all problems then reboot into windows a few times im not sure why but you have to do it a few times in a row then boot into ubuntu some weird ntfs quirk
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> natex, which you would have if you have 2 Xorg sessions running at the same time - it's not even remote!
[04:38] <oo> it happens to me all the time on lucid 64bit so i've switched to irssi
[04:39] <korben> [keen101]: it just works parallel with the desktop enviroment and u get back to your desktop with alt+F7
[04:39] <nimbiotics> digitalfiz: roger, will try, thanks!
[04:39] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[04:39] <natex> ZykoticK9: :)
[04:39] <keen101> cool. Never knew that before.
[04:39] <korben> basicly keen101 when u start console terminal from gnome it is gnome's terminal
[04:39] <keen101> Korben, yeah i knew that.
[04:39] <cutterjohn> are there any other channles than -dev that are better than this?
[04:39] <h07> ZykoticK9: 2 Xorg sessions running  how?
[04:40] <cutterjohn> where someone might have a clue?
[04:40] <korben> but the one u see with alt+F1 is like the console of linux it self not of gnome
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> oo, use the real xchat instead of xchat-gnome, just my opinion mind you - might not be worth much ;)
[04:40] <oo> keen101: consider that Unix and Linux have been around for a long time, before the window managers and X and stuff like that, so it was a way to switch between programs. Now you can do stuff like run multiple users at the same time
[04:40] <chris_osx> morning
[04:40] <natex> cutterjohn: about what?
[04:40] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: http://dpaste.com/222606/
[04:40] <korben> [keen101]: so there are terminals till F6 and F7 closes them
[04:40] <oo> Yeah I switched to irssi but i'll try that
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> !attitude | cutterjohn
[04:41] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/" ?
[04:41] <oo> I just want something in the ubutu repositories so I get security updates
[04:41] <keen101> Hmm.. okay. Yeah, i wasnt really around when Unix was dominant.
[04:41] <korben> [keen101]: well actually not closes them just switches back to graffic
[04:41] <digitalfiz> cutterjohn, i dont think there is a helpful channel for poor attitudes lol good luck though
[04:41] <keen101> my first computer ran DOS. :(
[04:41] <h07> keen101: ubuntu ISNT unix :P
[04:42] <keen101> h07: yes i know.
[04:42] <guest1> [keen101] you can use virtual terminal to kill  some processes when your GUI dektop "has hanged"
[04:42] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: no output
[04:42] <therealpsychx> sixofour: Something you can try is going to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, then search for something called: gpointing-device-settings
[04:42] <korben> so u where arround when linux came up ;p
[04:42] <korben> heheheheh
[04:42] <Guest69819> does anyone have trouble with this site? i cant get it to load all the way whatsoever: http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/866
[04:42] <keen101> haha
[04:42] <sixofour> k
[04:42] <korben> if u say no u have to be going to elementary school by now
[04:42] <therealpsychx> sixofour: It basically gives you more control over the settings for the touchpad.
[04:42] <Guest69819> its a site for free xubuntu cd
[04:42] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: That's good, you should now be able to access you files from "My Media" by going to Filesystem > mnt ("ls /mnt").
[04:43] <livingdaylight> hi, FF and chrome both flash plugin crash when trying to load express.paltalk, a web-based paltalk client. Anyone, advise me?
[04:43] <therealpsychx> sixofour: Also, check out this Ubuntuforums post.. I'll PM it to you.
[04:43] <Omar_pimentel> Hi everyone
[04:43] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Of course that's only one of the two ntfs partitions you have.
[04:43] <keen101> It's very easy to confuse myself.
[04:43] <h07> keen101: linux is a UNIX clone
[04:44] <korben> [livingdaylight]: have u downloaded the latest flash plugin?
[04:44] <korben> 10.1 ?
[04:44] <Omar_pimentel> I have a problem connecting to my wireless network in ubuntu, I have the version 10.4, my wireless card is RTL8187 and it see the network but cant connect
[04:44] <Evolution-X> hey guys i run   dd if=/dev/sda of=~/disk1.img and get   dd: opening `/dev/sda': Permission denied
[04:44] <keen101> Isnt OSX Unix with a bunch of proprietary mish-mosh added on top?
[04:44] <Evolution-X> i want to make a image for backup purposes
[04:44] <Jordan_U> Guest88149: It's loading very slowly for me, probably a server side problem.
[04:44] <oo> Omar_pimental: did you upgrade form an earlier version of Ubuntu, and do you have access to an internet connection over ethernet?
[04:44] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: sorry, im a noob and cant understand your previous message, still tryng to figure it out
[04:45] <h07> keen101: no OS uese linux!
[04:45] <livingdaylight> please, can someone help me?
[04:45] <digitalfiz> keen101, osx has a bsd core
[04:45] <Omar_pimentel> The connection worked fine a few days ago
[04:45] <guest1> http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/866 doesn't load
[04:45] <keen101> whats is the difference between bsd and unix?
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> !ot | keen101
[04:45] <livingdaylight> flash plugin crashes a lot here. anyone?>
[04:45] <Omar_pimentel> I did a clean install of ubuntu 10.4
[04:45] <keen101> okay. thanks the help!! bye!
[04:45] <h07> keen101:an auful lot!
[04:45] <natex> Evolution-X: you may need to write the image to another drive. Also, make sure you have proper write permissions.
[04:45] <livingdaylight> I'm on topic but ignored :/
[04:46] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: If you go to Places > Computer, then select "Filesystem", then select the directory there named "mnt", you will see the files from the partition named "My Media".
[04:46] <korben> [livingdaylight]: download the latest one 10.1
[04:46] <korben> i answered u before
[04:46] <natex> livingdaylight: flash is spotty on linux. Are you using 64 bit? Or 32?
[04:46] <Evolution-X> i have mi ipod plugdin for that,,how i make sure i have permission
[04:47] <livingdaylight> natex, 32 - I think
[04:47] <Jordan_U> Evolution-X: You need to run that with sudo, but be *very* carefull with dd, accidentily switching if= and of= for instance can trash your entire drive.
[04:47] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, i give natex's comment +1
[04:47] <Evolution-X> ando how i send that to the ipod
[04:47] <korben> [Evolution-X]: run it with root console
[04:47] <Evolution-X> OMG
[04:47] <livingdaylight> but paltalk express is designed to work on Linux
[04:47] <Evolution-X> how can i backup then
[04:47] <natex> livingdaylight: other flash sites work?
[04:47] <hanasaki> have tomcat installed and put a WAR file in the webapps directory : why would it not be auto deployed? the server.xml is set to autodeploy
[04:48] <livingdaylight> natex, youtube etc, YES
[04:48] <korben> [livingdaylight]: Have you downloaded the LATEST 10.1 version ?
[04:48] <korben> of flash?
[04:48] <capleton> how do I restart X now that ctrl-alt-del is deprecated?
[04:48] <Evolution-X> y try to use grsync but have a virtual machine here too about 10G and stop the prosses because is too big the virtual machine
[04:48] <Jordan_U> Evolution-X: That command will work if you put "sudo " in front of it, if you want an option that is less likely to cause serious problems with a typo then try an app called clonezilla.
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, are you sure paltalk express is using only flash?  could this be a java issue?
[04:48] <digitalfiz> capleton, power button :P
[04:48] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: indeed, but why is it that all items are grey?
[04:49] <korben> [capleton]: run shutdown -r now
[04:49] <IdleOne> capleton: alt-sysrq-k
[04:49] <korben> as root
[04:49] <ZykoticK9> capleton, alt+sysrq+k
[04:49] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: I don't know.
[04:49] <IdleOne> !dontzap | capleton
[04:49] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: a;; seems good though
[04:49] <h07> capleton: init 1
[04:49] <Evolution-X> i try to get that from pendrivelinux i did everything thay said and didnt work for me
[04:49] <livingdaylight> ZykoticK9, you may well be right. it just that I get the flash complaint pop up
[04:49] <capleton> thnx
[04:49] <oo> Omar_pimentel: I'm sorry I thought you said rt2*** not rtl*****, I dont knwo anything about realtek drivers and cant help you. good luck though!
[04:49] <guest1>  capleton ctrl+alt+f1 killall X.org
[04:49] <livingdaylight> ZykoticK9, I do have java installed too
[04:49] <tensorpudding> Okay, so I'm trying to mount.ecryptfs /mnt/home/foo/.Private to /home/foo/oldhome, but it keeps mounting /home/foo/.Private instead
[04:49] <natex> livingdaylight: what is the web address?
[04:50] <Evolution-X> where can i get clonezilla .iso so i can burn to disk and boot
[04:50] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, are you using the default opensource java or the oracle/sun java (which is in the Partner repository, not turned on by default!)
[04:50] <tensorpudding> Why is it doing this, and what should I do to make it aright?
[04:50] <livingdaylight> natex, http://www.paltalk.com/express/
[04:50] <oo> Evolution-X clonezilla's site has one
[04:50] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: (all*) how can we mount the "Win XP SP3" partition?
[04:50] <Omar_pimentel> I have a problem connecting to my wireless network in ubuntu, I have the version 10.4, my wireless card is RTL8187 and it see the network but cant connect, Can somebody please help me??
[04:50] <oo> clonezilla.org
[04:51] <gogeta> nimbiotics: like any other drive
[04:51] <Evolution-X> ok
[04:51] <Evolution-X> thanks
[04:51] <livingdaylight> ZykoticK9, I don't think I@m using the opensource version of java - ice-tea - ? How can I tell for sure?
[04:51] <livingdaylight> pretty sure i'm using Sun's java
[04:51] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: First try selecting it in Places > Computer. Is it listed there?
[04:51] <oo> livingdaylight: about:config in firefox's loxation bar
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, i get an error about OS!  You might have to try this in WINE Firefox!
[04:52] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: no
[04:52] <natex> livingdaylight: I'm using default Ubuntu java and flash. It's working for me.
[04:52] <livingdaylight> ZykoticK9, no, express is web-based and it says it runs on windown, max and linux on their site from any browser like ff and opera
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, see natex's comment ;)  good news
[04:52] <livingdaylight> natex, that's frustrating then
[04:53] <natex> livingdaylight: yeah
[04:53] <gogeta> livingdaylight: whats broken lol
[04:53] <livingdaylight> gogeta, my ubuntu it looks like, argh.
[04:53] <natex> livingdaylight: update your flash?
[04:53] <livingdaylight> natex, how so?
[04:53] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Odd, you can unmount your "My Media" partition and mount your "Win XP SP3" partition with "sudo umount /mnt/" then "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt". Then your
[04:54] <h07> ah ok drop me on to that netwotk
[04:54] <gogeta> Jordan_U: flagged dirty ntfs will not automount he probly needs to boot xp and let chkdsk run
[04:54] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: ... Then your "Win XP SP3" files will be available in /mnt (like your "My Media" files were before).
[04:54] <natex> livingdaylight: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> natex, what flash are you using?  ie. how did you install it, more then the version number.
[04:55] <Tamnakz> I'm currently runing 8.10. Update suggests 9.04. If I update, what changes will I see?
[04:55] <ravic> hey can some1 tel me how to use mutt to download only unread mails from servers but nt all emails?
[04:55] <natex> ZykoticK9: livingdaylight: I'm using the adobe flashplugin installer
[04:55] <gogeta> Tamnakz: you can change that to go stragt to lucid
[04:55] <livingdaylight> natex, looks like I already have the newest version. And you're running sun's java or the opensource version which ubuntu is set to by default?
[04:55] <gogeta> Tamnakz: change your upgrade prefs from normal to lts
[04:56] <Jordan_U> gogeta: You can't upgrade directly from 9.04 to 10.04.
[04:56] <Tamnakz> gogeta, what's the difference?
[04:56] <gogeta> Jordan_U: hes on 8.10
[04:56] <Jordan_U> gogeta: You can't upgrade directly from 8.10 either :)
[04:56] <natex> livingdaylight: java-common (non-Sun I think)
[04:56] <gogeta> Tamnakz: its the next long term support ubuntu
[04:56] <Jordan_U> gogeta: Only 8.04.
[04:56] <gogeta> oh
[04:56] <Tamnakz> how long is the support for 9.04?
[04:57] <guest1> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[04:58] <gogeta> Tamnakz: normal releses are 1 year lts are 3
[04:58] <Tamnakz> gogeta: I wasn't gonna update for now, but I'm already seeing problems. . .
[04:58] <IdleOne> !support
[04:59] <jpk_> Hi everyone, I am having a major problem with cryptsetup & key-files--I had to reboot my 8.04 LTS server, and after reboot, cryptsetup does not work for one of two encrypted disks I have; one disk unencrypts fine with it's key file, while the other one gives me the error "Command failed: No key available with the passphrase." Nothing has changed with regards to the key-files or setup that I know of.
[04:59] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: perfect! it worked, guess i can go on my ownby googling help on mount and umount, right?
[04:59] <kisuke> !8.04 | jpk_
[04:59] <kisuke> !upgrade | jpk_
[05:00] <kisuke> we have any networking familar people here atm?
[05:00] <jpk_> kisuke: I've tried using a 10.04 live disk to open the encrypted disks, but got the exact same results.
[05:00] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Yes. I'm surprised that the partitions don't show up in Places > Computer, but there's nothing wrong with mounting manually (or setting them up to always mount via fstab).
[05:00] <Jordan_U> !fstab | nimbiotics
[05:01] <gogeta> Jordan_U: as i said dirty ntfs will not show up
[05:01] <surfereddie> Does anybody know how to get rid of the user in freeNX?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> gogeta: If it were dirty then it wouldn't have mounted with the mount command.
[05:01] <gogeta> Jordan_U: once chkdsk runs on them they should become visable
[05:01] <ubuser> hello
[05:01] <gogeta> Jordan_U: it will but read only
[05:01] <kisuke> jpk_: it looks like the key file might have disapeared, you might want to try fsck, not sure what parameters you would need though
[05:02] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Did you get any error message with that seccond mount command?
[05:02] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: none
[05:02] <Jordan_U> gogeta: And in my experience "unclean" ntfs filesystems show up in nautilus but give an error message when you try to access them.
[05:03] <gogeta> Jordan_U: yea mounting reead only
[05:03] <gogeta> Jordan_U: strange
[05:03] <Jordan_U> gogeta: Since he's getting no error messages his ntfs partitions are not dirty.
[05:03] <Jordan_U> gogeta: Indeed.
[05:04] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: What about the "error mounting 'blkid?  does that have to do with my problem?
[05:04] <gogeta> Jordan_U: acully i rember this issue it was due to some old files after a upgarde braking automount but i cant rember the fix
[05:04] <ubuser> i was wondering if i downloaded the dependencies for something do i need a specific one for each version of ubuntu ( breezy,dapper, Feisty Fawn, Gutsy Gibbon))
[05:04] <gogeta> Jordan_U: you had to remove a package and it fixes it but i cant rember the name
[05:04] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: BTW, the single quote is in the message, its not a typo ('blkid)
[05:05] <mrpoundsign> quck Q... how, in the recovery console, do I remount / as read/write?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: It's likely, though I don't know what that error message means.
[05:05] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: also, this error message estops boot process
[05:05] <ubuser> or does zlib v1.2.3 work on all versions of ubuntu
[05:05] <jpk_> kisuke: both key files are still there & remain unchanged from when I originally created them; cryptsetup luksDump still shows all the same info as before as well.
[05:06] <jpk_> I can't fsck because it's a luks partition, not an ext..
[05:06] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: well, im going to try fstab and see what happens
[05:06] <abhijit> hello
[05:06] <iflema> ubuser what does zlib depend on?
[05:06] <bruttotempo> ciao
[05:06] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U, ubottu: Thanks a lot!!
[05:06] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: You're welcome.
[05:06] <kisuke> jpk_: are you sure you have the PW right?
[05:06] <gogeta> Jordan_U: mani cant rember lol
[05:06] <bruttotempo> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[05:07] <bruttotempo> nessuno parla italiano?
[05:07] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: ubottu is a channel bot by the way (not a human).
[05:07] <gogeta> Jordan_U: its due to the new system and the old sstems packages being not removed
[05:07] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: lol, thanks!
[05:07] <jpk_> kisuke: it doesn't have a password, it uses a key file, and it is correct; I have backups of the file as well.
[05:08] <ubuser> is ubuntu OS/2
[05:08] <kisuke> jpk_: diff keyfile backup_of_keyfile?
[05:08] <jpk_> kisuke: the md5 sums are the same..
[05:08] <capleton> Hi all.  Does anyone know why a multi-touch capable (eee 1201n) system would register two fingers as two seperate touches rather than one large, wide touch?
[05:09] <capleton> the best would be if someone knew how i could fix it ;-)
[05:09] <kisuke> jpk_: files are in the correct spot?
[05:09] <gogeta> Jordan_U: thats the packge remove usbmount
[05:09] <jpk_> mrpoundsign: to remount / to rw, "mount -o remount -o rw /" should work.
[05:10] <jpk_> kisuke: yep, though I can specify where to look with cryptsetup luksOpen..
[05:10] <gogeta> Jordan_U: and hal
[05:10] <gogeta> Jordan_U: those 2 get left behind on a upgrade and screw with the automount system
[05:11] <mrpoundsign> jpk: thnaks :)
[05:12] <kisuke> jpk_: humor me, and try to open the file wiht the backup
[05:12] <gogeta> nimbiotics: i managed to dig up your mounts not showing issue usbmount and hal dont get removed on a upgrade from 9.04 and screw up that automount system removing them fixes it
[05:13] <jpk_> kisuke: I already have, both replacing the file in /etc for bootup as well as just using the cryptsetup luksOpen..
[05:13] <kisuke> do you have a backup of the container?
[05:14] <juju2143> hi, you know how to find the screen resolution of the purple splashscreen at the start in Lucid?
[05:14] <abhijit> bye
[05:14] <kisuke> juju2143: settings>startup? (or somehting like that.)
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, are you using nvidia proprietary drivers?  If so i think it's like 800x600 (or maybe smaller even)
[05:15] <ubuser> im trying to download snes its saying i need djgpp v2, and its making me choose from windows unix msdos os/2 or dosemu.?!
[05:15] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, got ATI
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, the bootup stuff is call Plymouth
[05:15] <jpk_> kisuke: I do now. :-) and I've tried opening that w/ luksOpen, but same problem..  I don't from before when it was working, I only have an un-encrypted dump (from a while ago)
[05:15] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, it's the framebuffer right?
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> s/call/called
[05:15] <ubuser> k thx
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, NOT "really" but kinda "yes".
[05:16] <cornwallis_> anyone know how to made the default max volume higher. every time i want to listen to music I have to go to system>preferences>sound and change the output to be above 100%. is there a way to move the "150%" to 100?
[05:16] <Rev> Hi
[05:16] <niglop> instead of downloading xubuntu can i download ubuntu and then just install xfce?
[05:16] <Rev> Any Ubuntu guru's around
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> niglop, yes
[05:16] <kisuke> jpk_: im you have any oldre  backups that work?, i dont use encrypted drives atm, so im not as familar as id like
[05:16] <niglop> kk thanks
[05:16] <juju2143> So if I boot from the live cd I get a decent resolution for that Plymouth thing and from the HD a rather low resolution
[05:17] <ZykoticK9> !purexfce | niglop
[05:17] <juju2143> so I want to set the resolution  to the one on the live cd
[05:17] <tucemiux> cornwallis_, sounds like a bug, you mean you change the volume in the "sound" applet but after you reboot you have to change that setting again?
[05:17] <niglop> thanks ZykoticK9
[05:17] <jpk_> kisuke: no, I don't generally back up the whole encrypted drives.. I have some older backups, but have some pretty important stuff on the drive that was done recently..
[05:18] <tucemiux> niglop, yes but that will kind of defeat the purpose, it's like getting the whole burguer when youre a vegeterian an all you want is lettuce and tomato
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, if you are using proprietary ATI then i can see you getting poor Plymouth resolution.  But is getting worse Xorg drivers really worth getting a few seconds of good Plymouth resolution?
[05:18] <jpk_> kisuke: I've re-learned everything I knew about encrypting again awfully quick! :-)
[05:18] <cornwallis_> tucemiux. the setting for output volume will stay the same after a reboot. but if I have to drop it below 100% then when I press the volume up button it won't go past 100%
[05:18] <niglop> lol tucemiux  i want to see what gnome is like (only used xfce before)
[05:18] <Rev> Any ubuntu guru's able to have a quick pm conversation, just I'm heavily confused about a problem with installation and harddrives.
[05:19] <kisuke> jpk_: what application are you using?
[05:19] <niglop> im switching from mint to ubuntu because it has a more active community
[05:19] <kisuke> !wicd
[05:19] <cornwallis_> its just the 100% is not loud enough for mostt media
[05:19] <tucemiux> niglop, if you already have xfce you can install gnome
[05:19] <wizard_> hi... anyone having probs with java after updates?
[05:20] <jpk_> kisuke: it is actually an LVM under the encrypted array, with multiple VMs running; the only stumbling block is just getting the luks partition to work with it's key file...
[05:20] <puff> I recently jumped from edgy to lucid, anybody know what the latest emacs verison in edgy was?  Or is there any way I could determine this from my backup files?
[05:20] <niglop> tucemiux:  im on mint, im installing ubuntu
[05:20] <Rev> Help anyone?
[05:20] <niglop> tucemiux:  but i dont know if i should go straight to xubuntu or test out the normal thing and then install xfce afterwards
[05:20]  * kisuke looks up at what jpk_ just said
[05:20] <tucemiux> cornwallis_, then it sounds like it's an application related issue.  What do you mean by you the volume "button" up? I thought you were changing the volume using the "sound" applet?
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> Rev, why not state your issue/problem/question here so EVERYONE can look at it?
[05:21] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, I get a decent 1600x900 and good 3D
[05:21] <tucemiux> niglop, is mint ubuntu based?
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, oh man 1600x900 can you read terminals ok?  isnt' that really small?
[05:21] <kisuke> !mint | tucemiux
[05:21] <falckon> where are the menu entries for a user's gnome menu saved? my friend has nothing in his applications menu
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, ctrl+alt+f1 type terminals
[05:21] <Rev> ZykoticK9: because everyone is talking so quick it won't get answered
[05:21] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, oh not terminal, xorg
[05:21] <randy_> Rev: its hard to tell who can help you because you need to just go ahead and describe your problem :)
[05:22] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, I get a low resolution
[05:22] <jpk_> it's definitely not simple, but I've not had any problems before; it's been running like a champ for a little over 2 years now; multiple reboots the whole nine yards..
[05:22] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, what i'm saying is you'd have to remove your good/proprietary drivers, and install the opensource drivers to get the good Plymouth resolutions.
[05:22] <sam92> Hi, I have a classroom setup with Ubuntu 8.04 and LTSP. I want to upgrade to 10.04 and I want to use the Alternate CD for it. What about the packages which are not on the CD? Will they stay unupdated until I update them manually or will they be deinstalled?
[05:23] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, ah ok.
[05:23] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, so I won't get 3D?
[05:23] <Rev> ZykoticK9: I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu.  Ubuntu see's my partitioned drive that I'd like to install to, however gparted says the drive the partition is held is unallocated.  When I try to install, I can't find the partition I want to install onto.
[05:23] <nimbiotics> gogeta: sorry it took me so long to see your message. How do I remove usbmount and hal? TIA!
[05:23] <tucemiux> niglop, you can try ubuntu on a virtual machine if youre already using linux mint
[05:23] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, minimal at best?  you using ATI - i'm NOT the person to ask.
[05:23] <cornwallis_> tucemiux: when i want to listen to music I have to go to ubuntu's sound settings and change the output volume to 150%, but if I need to turn it down later to say 50%, and then I use the volume up buttons on my PC it will only go back up to 100%. i was just wondering if there was a way to increase the DB level of the output volume's 100%
[05:23] <juju2143> ok thx ZykoticK9 i'll try
[05:24] <ZykoticK9> Rev, that didn't have to be directed at me ;) it's for EVERYONE to look at.
[05:24] <randy_> Rev: is there any chance that was partitioned with Mac or something like that?
[05:24] <cornwallis_> that way I dont always have to navigate to the volume settings for the change
[05:24] <Rev> No
[05:24] <randy_> Rev: is there anything on the drive that you would like to keep? or is it just partitioned externally but essentially empty?
[05:25] <Rev> The drive must be kept, it stores a lot of essential things
[05:26] <Rev> I created a 24gb partition on there when I first bought the drive, so I could run ubuntu
[05:26] <tucemiux> cornwallis_,  i use alsa gnome mixer for that and I attach the applet to my panel, that way when I have to change the volume I click on the applet and the volume app shows, I only use the volume buttons on my laptop when I want to lower the button right away, for example if I get a phone call, or need to mute the volume
[05:26] <puff> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/8gzr9hcL
[05:26] <randy_> Rev: is it a strange partition type?
[05:26] <ZykoticK9> Rev, start the LiveCD and in at terminal run "sudo fdisk -l" and it should show all parititions the OS sees.
[05:27] <cornwallis_> tucemiux: i will just try that. thanks
[05:30] <Rev> http://yfrog.com/20screenshotjdp - what it showed
[05:31] <nimbiotics> gogeta: sorry it took me so long to see your message. How do I remove usbmount and hal? TIA!
[05:31] <Colonel_Panic> Hey all
[05:31] <Colonel_Panic> I'm trying to join #debian, but the server says I'm banned
[05:31] <wizard_> hi can anyone help with java issue?
[05:31] <_hoop> anyone good with printer installations?
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> Rev, from what i see it doesn't appear sdb has any paritions on it.
[05:32] <Colonel_Panic> is it because I'm using a Web IRC client?
[05:32] <Rev> It's the 500gb drive
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> !anyone | wizard_ Colonel_Panic
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> Colonel_Panic, sorry that was for _hoop
[05:33] <Colonel_Panic> ZykotickK9: What?!?
[05:33] <Colonel_Panic> oh ok
[05:33] <Colonel_Panic> sorry
[05:33] <wizard_> ok having cripes errors playing web games.... worked before updates
[05:33] <tucemiux> Colonel_Panic, you have to register your nick
[05:33] <_hoop> System-Admin..-Printing ... i get that far but i cannot select NEW
[05:33] <ssd7_> Hi, I'm trying to fix my fiancee's toshiba laptop.  It seems that after waking up from suspend, the ACPI LID close even no longer gets sent, so after the first suspend and resume you can no longer do suspend/resume via the lid close.  Any ideas?
[05:34] <Colonel_Panic> I know you guys aren't supposed to answer Debian questions, but I'm having an installation issue with it not recognizing my hard drives
[05:34] <wizard_> reinstall firefox and sun6 no good though
[05:34] <ZykoticK9> !register > Colonel_Panic this one's for you ;)
[05:34] <Rev> Zykotick9: weird thing is, if I goto places, it shows the drive I want to install to in there.. Linux!
[05:34] <Colonel_Panic> My nick is registered
[05:35] <ZykoticK9> Rev, it should!  but it's not currently formatted.  If you are worried about installing, select the option during formatting/partitioning for largest free space, and it should automatically install there!  FYI you should have a backup of your system BEFORE trying to install Ubuntu.
[05:35] <Colonel_Panic> if I chang my nick, am I going to be kicked out of here?
[05:35] <nimbiotics> How do I remove usbmount and hal? TIA!
[05:36] <IdleOne> Colonel_Panic: shouldn't
[05:36] <lobak> if i want to create a cron job that execute every 30 minutes, does this layout accurate ? 0,30 * * * * /my/first/command && /my/second/command
[05:36] <tucemiux> ssd7_, using suspend/resume is flaky on my laptop, that's why I never use it, if windows does weird things you can probably expect linux to do weird things as well, I personally never use it unless off course I do it inadvertently, I've lucked out and never had a problem waking my laptop up with linux but then again I suppose its just a matter of time so I generally dont do it
[05:36] <tucemiux> John_Albert, did you authenticate with freenode?
[05:36] <IdleOne> #debian has a ban set on @gateway/web/freenode
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, actually you can register multiple nicks on your freenode account, so I'm not sure what switching to a non-associated nic would do.  just sayin'.  hope all is well.
[05:37] <ssd7_> tucemiux: Suspend/Resume was working fine on this laptop until the upgrade to 10.04
[05:37] <_hoop> System-Admin..-Printing ... i get that far but i cannot select Add to add a printer
[05:37] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: um, yeah I knew that, I meant he shouldn't be kicked for changing nick. I'm well thanks :)
[05:38] <tucemiux> ssd7_,  that sounds like it's a bug, what the model of the laptop?
[05:38] <_hoop> Can anyone help me with printer?
[05:39] <Rev> Thanks for your help guys, i'm going to leave it.  Guess Linux isn't cut out for me
[05:39] <soreau> !print
[05:39] <ssd7_> Toshiba Satellite E105.  I found a bug report with similar symptoms, but it hasn't gotten any attention
[05:40] <andresj> Hello, ever since upgrading to Lucid, some programs fail with Segmentation Fault predictably. For example, most gtksourceview programs (including gedit) crash at specific times of selecting/typing quote characters. It gets quite annoying after a while, which is why I started using Kate. Inform7 crashes when I click on the Go or Replay button. Is there any way I can diagnose this? The command line only says "Segmantation Faul
[05:40] <andresj> t" with no other kind of help.
[05:40] <_hoop> how do i connect to local host and cups?
[05:40] <tucemiux> ssd7_, i suggest you follow that bug report and post to it as well, if enough people post on it it'll grab someone's attention, eventually
[05:40] <kisuke> andresj: have you updated everything?
[05:40] <soreau> andresj: Ubuntu dist upgrades can be problematic. I'd recommend installing fresh
[05:41] <soreau> _hoop: Read the links ubottu gave. You can use your browser
[05:41] <andresj> soreau: I was told otherwise---specialyl since the installer doesn't work properly anymore on my computer.
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> ssd7_, if you have a Launchpad account, have you already marked yourself as being affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/445905
[05:41] <_hoop> Cups Server ERROR (there was an error during the CUPS operation: 'Failed to connect to server'
[05:41] <andresj> kisuke: I would assume so. I did the automated dist upgrade.
[05:41] <tucemiux> _hoop, http://localhost:631/admin
[05:42] <soreau> andresj: If the installer didn't work, that's a good sign an upgrade wont either
[05:42] <soreau> andresj: Is it an older machine?
[05:42] <ssd7_> ZykoticK9: I don't think that is the same bug I've having
[05:42] <andresj> soreau: no, it is quite new, actually. 4 years old.
[05:42] <juju2143> now how I switch from the proprietary to free driver?
[05:42] <juju2143> for the framebuffer
[05:42] <juju2143> for ati
[05:42] <soreau> andresj: Hm.. should work then..
[05:43] <ZykoticK9> ssd7_, i really just went on your model and the bug title, i didn't check to close, so I'm glad you did!
[05:43] <andresj> soreau: I think the problem with the installer had to do with using neoveau instead of nvidia driver, though. I sidestepped that by doing a dist upgrade and enabling nvidia driver.
[05:43] <soreau> andresj: Is it anything weird like non-intel or 64bit?
[05:43] <kisuke> andresj: open a teminal and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:43] <_hoop> still not connecting
[05:43] <flomaster> some thing is messing up my runlevel on boot how can I diagnose the issue and see what is messing it up on boot?
[05:43] <soreau> _hoop: Read the links ubottu gave you. You have to install and setup cups first
[05:43] <soreau> ! print | _hoop
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> ssd7_, sure sounds like the same symptom - [TOSHIBA Satellite E105] hibernate/resume failure
[05:44] <jpk_> kisuke: any further thoughts, or just prayers? :-)
[05:44] <_hoop> IVe read before... im not Linux noob
[05:44] <andresj> soreau: it is 64-bit. an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core, to be precise
[05:44] <soreau> andresj: That sucks man, sorry for your loss
[05:44] <andresj> kisuke: ok fine, i got a bunch of un-upgraded software. _now_. I think it was broken before that, though. i'll try upgrading anyway.
[05:44] <andresj> kisuke: (now as in after the dist upgrade)
[05:45] <kisuke> jpk_: payers mostly. not sure what else i can tell you.
[05:45] <flomaster> any gurus up in here?
[05:45] <soreau> flomaster: nope
[05:45] <wrektjet> found a cool command that will move the cloase, max,min buttons from the left to the right : gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close
[05:45] <vikasap> When I do a top , what is this ata/1 that is always running in my system ?
[05:45] <flomaster> FML
[05:46] <andresj> soreau: yeah trying to digure out what it means.
[05:46] <IdleOne> !ask | flomaster
[05:46] <thetabyte> I'm running 10.04 Lucid Lynx and I removed the chat indicator and shut down menu from the gnome-panel and can't find the right gnome-panel widget to put it back? any solutions?
[05:46] <tucemiux> ssd7_, my advice is to go ahead and add yourself as affected by the bug if the symptoms are the ***same*** as you are experiencing otherwise file a bug report of your own, that is really the only way to get bugs fixed, people reporting them and the developers fixing them, I had sound problems on both laptop and desktop -- they were fixed on my desktop and to a bearable degree on my laptop
[05:46] <jpk_> kisuke: heh, nice typo--I have a phone call scheduled w/ Canonical tomorrow morning. :-(
[05:46] <ssd7_> ZykoticK9: Generically yes, but the problem I am having is, I think, more of an ACPI problem.  I can resume and suspend with no problem using the power menu.   The problem is that no ACPI event is triggered when I close the lid AFTER resuming from a suspend.
[05:46] <soreau> andresj: Are you using 32bit or tried it yet?
[05:46] <hasen> hi, if I'm editing a gtkrc file, can I see changes immediately? or is there a command that I can run to tell the system that gtkrc has changed? (without using a gui)
[05:46] <soreau> andresj: your version of ubuntu, that is
[05:46] <ZykoticK9> ssd7_, you are correct!  different bug FOR SURE.  sorry man.
[05:47] <wrektjet> thetabyte, its part of the basic applet "indicator applet"
[05:47] <flowbee> i have ubuntu 10.04;  how do i emulate the 3rd mouse button press?
[05:48] <flomaster> some thing is messing up my runlevel on boot how can I diagnose the issue and see what is messing it up on boot?
[05:48] <andresj> soreau: no, i am using 64-bit. used to use 32-bit but 64-bit has worked quite well till The Problem :P
[05:48] <jpk_> kisuke: thank you!
[05:49] <wrektjet> thetabyte, sorry it is part of the indicator session applet
[05:49] <kisuke> jpk_: NP
[05:49] <Ubiedoodie> am having an issue with Lucid 2.6.32-22 on Dell Laptop.. nm-applet not showing up and no networking is available help plz...
[05:49] <soreau> andresj: I would work on trying to get a fresh install, 32 or 64 bit, since you have the choice
[05:49] <thetabyte> thanks wrek!
[05:50] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, first "ps aux|grep NetworkManager; sudo killall NetworkManager" and let me know if the network manager applet shows up
[05:50] <glick> hey is there a way to set up dual displays by having to monitors attached to two different graphics cards?
[05:50] <soreau> oh yea, I forgot chmod -x `which NetworkManager` :p
[05:51] <thetabyte> is there anyway to remove the system tray from the gnome-panel? like the icons put there by skype, xchat, dropbox, etc.?
[05:51] <glick> one is my nvidia, and the other ine is the internal built in intel one
[05:51] <Ubiedoodie> ok will try
[05:51] <subcool> could anyone help me with a vpn and my iphone?? i was on efnet, but they are hardasses
[05:52] <vikasap> !sound
[05:52] <subcool> hhmm !VPN
[05:52] <andresj> soreau: well at this point it really isn't a choice. i don't have a lot of free time to do it, and i'm getting a new laptop anyway---in which i will have to decide what to install :P
[05:52] <subcool> i tried- lol
[05:53] <soreau> andresj: You might as well use a pay-for OS that requires less time and smarts then
[05:53] <glick> is that possible?
[05:53] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: did as performed but no applet still
[05:54] <hasen> hi, if I'm editing a gtkrc file, can I see changes immediately? or is there a command that I can run to tell the system that gtkrc has changed? (without using a gui)
[05:54] <subcool> here, actually ill explain a bit more-- i was looking for a good ubuntu L2TP server i think. i had installed openvpn- but it didnt work out well.
[05:54] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, can you hook your laptop to a wired connection and: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:55] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, actually -- first, do you know how to use paste?
[05:55] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: the wired connection fails also... this machine is a friends and was running fine. I don't understand what happened..
[05:55] <andresj> soreau: [gasp] "less time and smarts"---just for that i'll keep ubuntu :P No, the choice is between Ubuntu and Fedora. But def keeping linux cuz i love the Unix feel. And MacOSX isn't an option for the price.
[05:56] <randy_> glick: yes, its possible
[05:56] <mcurran> Anyone here know how to write a sort script - I wanna add a startup script in KDE that sorts my desktop icons after a sleep/pause of about 15 seconds at startup (i.e. Autostart folder).  Can anyone help me out?
[05:56] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: I am on another machine right now. The problem machine is right next to me
[05:56] <glick> randy_, do you know how i can set that up?
[05:56] <randy_> glick: it can just become really tricky ;)
[05:56] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, the network files get corrupt or misconfigured in dell machines, you have to first configure the wired connection then the wireless connection
[05:56] <soreau> andresj: It will require time, testing, reading many frustrations. Also, segfaults means something is fundamentally wrong which is why I suggest starting over with a clean install
[05:57] <randy_> glick: mostly, its really similar to setting up TwinView or something like that with Nvidia/ATI, etc... but just with two different drivers running two different monitors on two different instances of an Xserver
[05:57] <tucemiux> which file lets you configure your network device???
[05:57] <randy_> glick: lemme see if i can't find something on the interwebs that can help ;)
[05:57] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: that makes sense... I will try that. Is there a solution to prevent this again.
[05:58] <glick> thanks i tried a search but couldnt find snything
[05:58] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie,  dont reimage your machine?  Or learn how to fix it?  I've had to fix the wireless every time I reimaged my laptop, once or twice I had to fix the wired connection
[05:58] <Ubiedoodie> ok
[05:58] <randy_> glick: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53966 this refers to what you're looking for.  just keep in mind that you're gonna specify *different* drivers for the intel/nvidia obviously
[05:59] <minjoo> how to install gcc 3.x on lucid?
[05:59] <KE1HA> just install build e4ssentials
[05:59] <KE1HA> opps essentials ..
[06:00] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, you want me to show you how to configure your wired nic to dhcp?
[06:00] <KE1HA> then gcc
[06:00] <glick> meh, i was hopiing for a plug and play solution since i will be unplugging this monitor often
[06:00] <racerd> !grub
[06:00] <andresj> soreau: yes, i wonder a lot what it could cause it, though. to prevent it from happening.
[06:00] <randy_> glick: you're gonna want to look carefully at the differences in his xorg file and a 'normal' one.  notice that his file has dual "Device" "Monitor" and "Screen" sections... this is the trick ;)
[06:00] <minjoo> KE1HA, i wanna gcc downgrade :)
[06:00] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: please
[06:00] <glick> thanks randy_
[06:01] <subcool> no vpn'ers
[06:01] <randy_> glick: well, once you've got everything working, it should be relatively easy to specify different resolutions if you're always using the same monitors
[06:01] <thetabyte> is there anyway to remove the system tray from the gnome-panel? like the icons put there by skype, xchat, dropbox, etc.?
[06:01] <KE1HA> Ahh, hold on, I got some notes on that, did that on a box that was finiky about the compiler.
[06:02] <_hoop> System-Admin..-Printing ... i get that far but i cannot select NEW
[06:02] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, edit  "/etc/network/interfaces" , you should have the following two lines in your config: "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" --- if you want to see what it looks like head over to:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[06:02] <randy_> glick: simply because you unplug that monitor often shouldn't deter you from setting this up.  once you've got it working, its more of a gnome thing to set up which monitor acts as your primary for the menu's etc...
[06:03] <iaeomm> I need to give someone remote access, with their own account, and sudo powers.  how do I keep them for being able to access my home folder?
[06:03] <_hoop> can someone help me by not sending me a printing guide link and listen to where and what im having for trouble.. perhaps?
[06:03] <subcool> iaeomm, dont give them access :-)
[06:03] <KE1HA> minjoo, here ya go, just modify the versions you want to delete and change sym links as appropriate: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29449
[06:03] <minjoo> thanks KE1HA
[06:04] <iaeomm> subcool: i sort of have to.  it's to my benefit.  given these conditions how do i restrict access?
[06:04] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: all I have in it is ' auto lo        iface lo inet loopback '
[06:04] <randy_> glick: for example, i run dual-monitor off one Nvidia card.  My old and crummy monitor--which shows crazy colors occasionally and will die one day--is just a leftward extention of my desktop which for all intensive purposes is completely useless except for the fact that i can watch movies on that monitor, or run commands and such while browsing.  if i unplug it, i only lose my extension but not my whole functionality of my desktop
[06:04] <KE1HA> minjoo, here another one I had marled to "switch between versions": http://www.question-defense.com/2010/03/30/how-to-switch-between-different-versions-of-gcc-and-g-in-backtrack-4-final-or-any-version-of-ubuntu
[06:05] <zruty> I upgraded to 10.04 but now my volume applet seems gone. How to get it back?
[06:05] <KE1HA> opps another one I had marked .. .. ..
[06:05] <iaeomm> Is there a way to encrypt my home folder?  How do I do it?  Users and groups doesn't offer it
[06:05] <subcool> iaeomm, i could tell u if it were windows, im a bit of dunce myself. I am looking for help with something easy as VPN. lol- if u give them access, root access.. best i can think of is to encrypt ur home directory.
[06:05] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, go to the lilnk I gave you and go to the section titled: Setup interface to dhcp -->that's what your file should look like witht hose two lines
[06:05] <minjoo> great
[06:05] <actionparsnip> zruty: run: gnome-volume-control-applet
[06:05] <iaeomm> subcool: how do I do that?
[06:05] <_hoop> can someone help me by not sending me a printing guide link and listen to where and what im having for trouble.. perhaps?
[06:06] <subcool> being the fact u have ur own password- it would a deturrant but, root is root. lol
[06:06] <randy_> glick: regardless, it *will* work ;)
[06:06] <actionparsnip> _hoop: sup?
[06:06] <subcool> idk- i dont encrypt it- i just know its possible.
[06:06] <iaeomm> subcool: even with root acces they can't get through encryption
[06:06] <subcool> i crash too often and have to recover too freaquently to also have to crack my home directory
[06:06] <subcool> nah- but they;ll have access
[06:06] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: I setup eth0 auto dhcp now how to restart?
[06:07] <subcool> my user can mess with ur user
[06:07] <subcool> my ROOT can mess with anyone
[06:07] <subcool> its root
[06:07] <_hoop> action... System-Admin..-Printing ... i get that far but i cannot select NEW
[06:07] <zruty> actionparsnip: That works! Will it be there when I restart, too...?
[06:07] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:07] <actionparsnip> zruty: try it
[06:07] <_hoop> action... i have lsusb and know its detecting my printer
[06:07] <zruty> actionparsnip: OK, thanks!
[06:07] <subcool> so even tho ur directory is encoded, he still has the ability to prod at it. If it were just me- i couldnt even see a file size
[06:08] <actionparsnip> _hoop: are you in the lpr group?
[06:08] <iaeomm> CAN someone please tell me how to encrypt my home folder?
[06:08] <_hoop> action.. lpr?
[06:08] <Luija1006> Guys I got no sound when I play runescape (java game). Whats happening?
[06:08] <DrThodt> :/ can someone tell me offhand why ubuntu server 10.04 base install uses so much memory
[06:08] <Luija1006> Guys I got no sound when I play runescape (java game). Whats happening?
[06:09] <niglop> Luija1006:  please dont repeat yourself
[06:09] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: that got the eth0 interface looking for dhcp... I am away from my router so I cannot plug in right now... I still wonder where my nm-applet is. or do I have to plug in forst.
[06:09] <Luija1006> sorry
[06:09] <subcool> iaeomm, www.linkux-mag.com/id/7586
[06:09] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, try killing network manager again and hope it works and it gives you an applet
[06:09] <actionparsnip> _hoop: type my nick then press tab. it will highlight my nick just as I am higlighting yours
[06:09] <subcool> linux-mag.com/id/7586
[06:10] <actionparsnip> _hoop: run: groups     what is output?
[06:10] <_hoop> actionparsnip ok
[06:10] <subcool> brb- iaeomm let me know how that goes
[06:11] <_hoop> actionparsnip: i dont see what your speaking of
[06:11] <iaeomm> subcool: er?  Opera Unite...?  what does that have to do with encryption o_o?
[06:11] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: sudo killall NetworkManager or network-manager says no process found....
[06:11] <actionparsnip> _hoop: in a terminal, type: groups    then press enter
[06:12] <_hoop> actionparsnip: ok will do
[06:12] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, use paste bin, REPEAT use paste bin, once again, you will be kicked if you dont use paste bin: what is the output of "iwconfig"
[06:12] <_hoop> groups
[06:12] <_hoop> actionparsnip: ok and what am i looking for?
[06:12] <nimbiotics> hello everybody. I just updated to 10.04 and, upon booting, I'm getting message: "An error occurred while mounting 'blkid. Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery" and booting stops. I tried M once but, not knowing what to do, haven't tried again.  Please notice that the message includes the single quote before blkid; thats not a typo. I was told earlier to remove usbmount and hal...
[06:13] <nimbiotics> ...so ichecked an usbmount is not installed, removed hal and still had same problem so I just installed again. by What can I do?? TIA!
[06:13] <actionparsnip> _hoop: I want you to paste the output here, so we can see it
[06:13] <DrThodt> serious base install, 256mb ram, 14mb free
[06:13] <DrThodt> shouldnt it be the other way?
[06:14] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: working on it...
[06:14] <_hoop> actionparsnip: hoop root adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape sudo dip video plugdev fuse lpadmim admin sambashare
[06:14] <alphagas> anybody up?
[06:14] <tucemiux> !anybody| alphagas
[06:14] <cmdbbq> would anyone care to recommend a DLNA compatible upnp client for ubuntu?
[06:15] <lostinspace_46> Where can i download the Grub Graphical menu Manager?
[06:15] <Flannel> nimbiotics: Sounds like your fstab had things added to it that shouldn't have been.  A LiveCD is your best bet for fixing it.
[06:15] <vikasap> When I do a top , what is this ata/1 that is always running in my system ? Any idea folks ?
[06:15] <skh_> can someone  help me?
[06:15] <tucemiux> troll alert!
[06:15] <andresj> soreau: actually, using gdb i found out that what crashed Inform7 was the graphite library (activated because i have pango-graphite installed). This would explain why it only happened in some GTK apps. I'll start using Gedit and see if this fixes things. ##linux was pretty simple and helpful here :P
[06:15] <actionparsnip> _hoop: why are you in the root group.. weird. anyway you seem to be in the right groups. You could  try running the printer app with gksudo
[06:15] <nimbiotics> Flannel: am a noob, can you please further ecxplain your answer? TIA
[06:16] <alphagas> I am having trouble installing ubuntu :-/  I get a soft-lockup during install.  I've tried about a dozen workarounds and none have produced any results.  I'm using a toshiba A355-S6935
[06:16] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, im going to be adventerous and ask, why do you need GRUB?
[06:16] <actionparsnip> _hoop: although you arent a member of dip: http://serverfault.com/questions/11488/what-are-the-default-groups-assigned-to-the-first-user-in-ubuntu-server
[06:16] <snowrichard> printer -- maybe I should see if my deskjet all in one wokrs
[06:16] <snowrichard> works
[06:16] <alphagas> can someone please help, i've been trying to get this to work for about a week now
[06:16] <nimbiotics> Flannel: hmmm... are you telling me to reinstall 10.04?
[06:17] <tucemiux> alphagas, i once had that problem, what i did is I removed the hard drive from the laptop and installed it on another laptop, installed xubuntu then put the hard drive to the original machine
[06:17] <_hoop> actionparsnip: what you mean " You could  try running the printer app with gksudo
[06:17] <actionparsnip> alphagas: have you MD5 tested your ISO before butrning? Did you burn as slowly as you were allowed? Did you test the CD for defects? Did you test your RAM?
[06:17] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Because I am dual booting...I have grub, I just want the graphical menu manager for it
[06:17] <kasun> alphagas, be little more descriptive. then people who knows it well will respond
[06:17] <Flannel> nimbiotics: No.  But you'll need to get to a state where you can edit your fstab (which is a file), and a LiveCD is probably the easiest way you're going to get there.
[06:17] <snowrichard> printer worked fine, i never had to set it up :)
[06:17] <illac> alphagas: check your hardware and make sure it's compatible, I had an old sony that had similiar issues and it tied back to some proprietary hardware that wasn't compatible
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> lostinspace_46, i'm not even sure what "Grub Graphical menu Manager" is, but are you using Grub2 (default lucid grub version)? and if so, is your program grub2 compabitle? i doubt it.
[06:18] <actionparsnip> _hoop: maybe your system has a weirdness in it right now, if you run it with gksudo you should be able to install a printer
[06:18] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46,  if no one in here is able to help you then head over to #grub, this channel is for ubuntu support
[06:18] <nimbiotics> Flannel: and how do i know what should and should not be there?
[06:18] <trereretretr> ..
[06:18] <launch> we are on IRC?
[06:18] <alphagas> this is a pretty new computer.  and I'm kind of new to ubuntu linux.  It's not just 10.04 though, 9.10 and 9.04 won't install either
[06:18] <redalqaeda> aguien habla espanol
[06:18] <redalqaeda> aqui
[06:18] <rmrfboy> @alphagas: try removing usb that is not used
[06:18] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Ag8RyrtV
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> !es | redalqaeda
[06:18] <alphagas> and unfortunately I can't swap my harddrives around to try that method
[06:18] <lostinspace_46> ZykoticK9, yes and yes
[06:19] <Flannel> nimbiotics: Well, from the LiveCD you come back and we'll walk you through it.  It either got something added to it, or it got over written.  If it's the former, we just remove the line with "blkid" on it.  If it's the latter, we'll have to create a new one, which isn't difficult and we can help you do so here.
[06:19] <rmrfboy> @alphagas: its also something do to with the keyboard. regarding the lockup
[06:19] <trereretretr> hu
[06:19] <_hoop> actionparsnip i still dont get what you me running print app? what pring app ... without a terminal command i dont know what your refering
[06:19] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I asked in grub....VERY unresponsive
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> lostinspace_46, cool, good luck then.
[06:19] <alphagas> rmrfboy something with the keyboard?
[06:20] <nimbiotics> Flannel: could it be just the single quote before 'blkid?
[06:20] <actionparsnip> _hoop: with the app running, run: ps -ef | grep -i print      you will get the command, you can then run: gksudo foo    (replace foo with the application name)
[06:20] <alphagas> rmrfboy: what do you mean remove usb that is not used?
[06:20] <launch> we are on IRC?
[06:20] <illac> alphagas: does the system lock up after install or during?
[06:20] <Flannel> launch: yes.
[06:20] <alphagas> during install
[06:20] <rmrfboy> @alphagas: maybe,maybe not. i experienced that nwhen i installed 10.4.  did it hang after you type something during install?
[06:20] <soreau> andresj: Typically segfaults don't yield useful bt's but it's never a bad idea to run the program with a debugging tool like gdb or valgrind
[06:20] <launch> Flannel, ok thanks
[06:20] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, the problem is nobody is in that room right now, try asking at another time, I once even talked to a grub developer when they first rolled out grub2
[06:20] <Flannel> nimbiotics: "blkid" wouldn't be in that file normally.
[06:21] <nimbiotics> readalqaeda: aqui no se habla espa~ol, y creo que menos con ese nick..
[06:21] <illac> alphagas: does it let you go through the process and lock while copying files or does it lock early on?
[06:21] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, OK but for 4 hrs last night I tried
[06:21] <nimbiotics> Flannel: ok, i'll do that, whats the location of fstab?
[06:21] <rmrfboy> @alphages: e.g. usb drive that is not needed during installation. it "can" cause some lockup in some instance
[06:21] <alphagas> it locks up at a point where it says somethign about "No key to set for <some directory regarding netbook>"
[06:22] <nimbiotics> redalqaeda: aqui no se habla espa~ol, y creo que menos con ese nick..
[06:22] <_hoop> actionparsnip in printing Preferances.... im not connected....
[06:22] <Flannel> nimbiotics: /etc/fstab (so it'll be in whatever partition is your harddrive, then in /etc/ then the "fstab" file)
[06:22] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, this works on my laptop so hopefully it'll work on yours: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid MYWIRELESSROUTER ---> this works on a wireless router with no security, the ssid is MYWIRELESSROUTER, you can change that to your SSID
[06:22] <alphagas> I don't know about removing usb drives from a laptop
[06:22] <launch> arrete de parler en espagnol
[06:22] <nimbiotics> Flannel: ok, thanks, be back in a while
[06:22] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, dont try at the same time, try like around 8PM eastern USA time
[06:22] <illac> alphagas: can you give me the exact text of the error message?
[06:23] <alphagas> sure, I'll have to reboot, be back in about 10 minutes
[06:23] <launch> jai la vessie pleine de pipi jaunatre
[06:23] <actionparsnip> _hoop: connected to what?
[06:23] <Flannel> launch: This channel is english only, thanks.
[06:23] <lostinspace_46> I may not be explaining myself correctly....this    http://grub.gibibit.com/Theme_format  is what I want.  I just can't seem to get it downloaded.
[06:23] <actionparsnip> !fr | illac
[06:23] <illac> !en | actionparsnip
[06:24]  * rmrfboy 
[06:24] <_hoop> actionparsnip localhost... and cannot add
[06:24] <Luija1006> Guys I got no sound when I play runescape (java game). Whats happening?
[06:24] <illac> Luija1006: you've gone deaf :/
[06:24] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, so basically you want to use grub to boot up your OSes?  what OSes are you using?
[06:24] <Luija1006> no
[06:24] <illac> Luija1006: we didn't have the hear to tell ya :(
[06:25] <illac> heart*
[06:25] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: that set the essid... my wireless is WPA2... I see where you are heading though.and I will try and setup the wireless manually..
[06:25] <illac> Luija1006: ;)
[06:25] <Luija1006> can someone help me?
[06:25] <subcool> anyone with experience with VPNS?
[06:25] <redalqaeda> help me plss???????
[06:25] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I am using grub now
[06:25] <Gnea> !helpme
[06:25]  * rmrfboy 
[06:25] <lostinspace_46> I want to mod the screen
[06:25] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, that's right, you knock on the wirerless router that way, then ask for an IP: sudo dhclient
[06:25] <Gnea> !ask
[06:26] <illac> subcool: what kind of experience, setting up or connecting?
[06:26] <actionparsnip> _hoop: according to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R91MXHasjSM you can select samba...
[06:26] <subcool> hhmm- both. Illac - but ill go with setting up..
[06:26] <Gnea> Luija1006: is sound working for any other java apps?
[06:26] <KE1HA> subcool, have you been though this first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[06:26] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: I appreciate your help... it is getting late and I am tired I will hit it from that direction..  gnite
[06:26] <illac> subcool: !info | vpnc
[06:26] <subcool> i have experience with windows,
[06:26] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, i found a guide that shows you how to do it
[06:26] <Luija1006> Gnea: let me try frostwire
[06:27] <illac> !info vpnc | subcool
[06:27] <subcool> well- thats the client side, i really need a server.
[06:27] <subcool> and from what i see i need L2TP
[06:27] <_hoop> anyone on Teamspeak3? thank knows anything about CUPs and PRINTing
[06:27] <illac> subcool: my client of choice, but we only run Cisco stuff for work, that's my only experience :/
[06:27] <subcool> i wish my sh!t box could handle IPSec
[06:27] <subcool> ya, im a cisco man myself, its just a bit of a hassle
[06:28] <KE1HA> Cicso is costs $$$ but it has the best support. It's what we use also.
[06:28] <subcool> maybe when i start working with stuff that that requires the encryption
[06:28] <subcool> nah- i know a bunch about cisco, and its really easy
[06:28] <subcool> just lenghty
[06:28] <alphagas> illac: are you still here?
[06:29] <subcool> i took a cople classes, it makes complete sense,
[06:29] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Just curious..how do you know no one is in the grub channel, since it is listing 62 users?
[06:29] <subcool> i hate this keyboard- wtf.
[06:29] <tucemiux> !ot | subcool
[06:29] <subcool> lol-
[06:29] <illac> alphagas: yea
[06:29] <KE1HA> I've read OpenVPN is a descent solution as well, but not used it myself.
[06:29] <ZykoticK9> !lol > subcool
[06:29] <subcool> ok, well i still need that server..
[06:30] <subcool> hahaha- oh jease guys. come on.
[06:30] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46,  if youre not getting any response then for your purposes nobody is in the grub channel
[06:30] <illac> !ohjease > subcool
[06:30] <illac> subcool: I kidd
[06:30] <subcool> tucemiux well we have to give them time to respond
[06:30] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Got ya
[06:30] <KE1HA> subcool, here's on I had bookmarked for VPN server install: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=132029
[06:30] <alphagas> ok, the last thing that I see is "No value to set for key: '/apps/netbook-launcher/favorites/favorites_list' then BUG: soft lockup – CPU#0 stuck for 61s! BUG: soft lockup – CPU#1 stuck for 61s!
[06:31] <illac> alphagas: hmmm
[06:31] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, so you want to install grub in your machine?
[06:31] <subcool> and between explaining what we are working on we are discussing other things, Liek the ussage of cisco- So as i had state from before, thatnks for the clients. im obviously gonna need it, but i was look for the assistance for the server side software. Which is what seems to be the issue.
[06:32] <alphagas> illac, I have seen many threads and posts about having this problem on toshiba laptops and some workarounds but none of them work for me
[06:32] <illac> alphagas: give me a few minutes to dig around and see what I can turn up
[06:32] <alphagas> everything from trying to install karmic and update that way etc, but even that won't install, I just get a black screen
[06:32] <subcool> illac,  its cool - lol. im ok with it. Its getting flak for stupid things like chatting while trouble shooting- and how i talk. It just comes out this way- i dont proof read.
[06:33] <KE1HA> subcool, OpenVPN Server Instal on 8.04 Example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[06:33] <kurtis> Hello.
[06:33] <subcool> KE1HA, sorry, already said i cant use that
[06:33] <subcool> i already have it
[06:33] <subcool> and it doesnt work wiht my setup.
[06:33] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, No, I have grub installed. It works fine. But it is UGLY black and white.   http://grub.gibibit.com/Theme_format The app here is a graphical manager for grub.  Umm..front end??
[06:33] <KE1HA> Oh, sri, what VPN applicaiton are you using on the server side?
[06:33] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, you have grub legacy or grub2?
[06:33] <alphagas> ok
[06:33] <ZykoticK9> subcool, last one i promise
[06:33] <ZykoticK9> !enter > subcool
[06:34] <lostinspace_46> grub 2..grub 1.98
[06:34] <illac> subcool: same, I got booted from offtopic for mentioning wiki leaks earlier :/
[06:34] <subcool> ubottu- get off my butt for saying lol
[06:34] <illac> !nazis > subcool
[06:34] <subcool> im not going to spell out laughing out loud
[06:34] <illac> subcool: ;)
[06:35] <greezmunkey> lostinspace_46: seems like a lot of fuss for something that you only see once in a while. And, what if the script fails - you are going to be back in here asking for help to get your box to boot...I'm just sayin'...
[06:35] <Flannel> illac: Please stop that.
[06:35] <illac> Flannel: roger that red leader
[06:36] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, ive never tried it but it looks like fun, if you dont mind me using as a guinea pig we can both look at that site and we can go step by step, I need to remind you though that if you hose your installation you might have to reinstall grub
[06:36] <illac> alphagas: http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8407323
[06:36] <subcool> lol- ugh this machine is soooo slow- im trying to load that webpage, and it just wont go. brb- im going to go get my laptop
[06:36] <illac> alphagas: give that a shot?
[06:36] <lostinspace_46> greezmunkey, I can boot my box just fine, TY.  I just asked if someone knew where to D/L the app
[06:36] <Boondoc> join my new channel at irc.wyldryde.org and join #RiotChat
[06:37] <kurtis> So with #!Crunchbang does it matter what Emulator I use or is WINE perfectly fine?~
[06:37] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Well, you any good with bazaar...the app is there, I just can't seem to get it
[06:37] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46,  you dont want to download an ***app***.  You want to make grub2 look pretty, that is what you are trying to do, if you use the correct terminology people might help you specially the ones that have done that
[06:37] <lostinspace_46> tuc feel free to PM
[06:37] <alphagas> illac: well, I'm not trying to install the netbook version :-/ and I'm installing off of a CD
[06:37] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, sudo apt-get install bzr ???
[06:38] <KE1HA> kurtis, wine + PlayOnLinux is a good combination.
[06:38] <illac> alphagas: hmmm k, I shall keep digging
[06:38] <kurtis> I have been using Unbuntu for the last 2 years and I feel its time to switch it up
[06:38] <kurtis> Going to be using #!Crunchbang as my new gaming OS, just wanted to make sure everything was still compatiable
[06:38] <drcasper> guys .. one quick question only.. i have a vaio laptop i just bought a SSD drive for .. what partition format should i be using.. f4 f3?
[06:38] <KE1HA> I was suprised, after a few tweeks, 10.04 is really pretty good.
[06:39] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, first you want to download images and put them in "/grub/themes/icons", there shoud be a directory in your hard drive named that way
[06:39] <Gnea> drcasper: what's F3/F4?
[06:39] <KE1HA> exty4 is not much diffrent that ext3 in my opinion, but there's advocates of both.
[06:39] <drcasper> ext4. sorry ..
[06:39] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I don't want to get too off-topic in channel...but I will rephrase..I don't need an app I need software that makes grub pretty...better?
[06:39] <KE1HA> I went with the default EXT4 .. but have several machines running EXT3
[06:40] <Gnea> drcasper: ext4 should do just fine
[06:40] <actionparsnip> drcasper: ext2 will make it last longer
[06:40] <greezmunkey> tucemiux: http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/DistroDownloads#Ubuntu
[06:40] <drcasper> thanks guys ..:)
[06:40] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, what OS are you using?
[06:40] <mercury_halo> how to disable the scroll wheel of the mouse?
[06:41] <_hoop> actionparsnip wow.... simple.... [ sudo service cups restart  ]
[06:41] <ubuser> hey, i was wondering if anyone could help me? I am trying to find a snes emulator that will work on ubuntu 5.10, i know its an old version, i also dont have internet on this computer
[06:41] <drcasper> well.. i bought a SSD drive to see if it would be any faster but i gotta tell you, either the drive i bought is crap (branded patriot) or there is just very little difference on this particular laptop compared toa 72k rpm HD
[06:41] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, AHA..I am not clear..I have changed my background already...this software allows changing fro text to icons, and completely channging the LOOK of grub without changing the functionality
[06:41] <ubuser> right now i am trying zsnes and i got all the dependcies on a cd, but i want to download another emulator just to make sure
[06:41] <mercury_halo> how to disable the scroll wheel of the mouse?
[06:42] <SwedeMike> drcasper: then you probably bought the wrong one, because I have intel ssd:s in "all" my machines and it's a huge difference.
[06:42] <actionparsnip> _hoop: makes, sense. Ive seen a few folks say their cups wasn't running at boot. If you reboot and it's stopped, add "service cups restart"   (without quotes) to /etc/rc.local   above the exit line and it should fix it
[06:42] <sparky> ntu 64 bit yet?
[06:42] <ubuser> does anyone know of a snes emulator that will work for ubuntu 5.10 hopefully no dependencys
[06:42] <actionparsnip> !find snes | ubuser
[06:42] <ZykoticK9> SwedeMike, does ubuntu currently support trim?
[06:42] <sparky> any body figure out how to get by flash on ubuntu 64 bit ?
[06:42] <KE1HA> drcasper, SSD are very fast, you will not see a diff in EXT3 or EXT4, but you will certainly see a Vast improvemnt over 5400 / 7200 rom drives.
[06:42] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux,  If I can't D/L the graphical manager, I guess I will find the correct .mod files to change
[06:42] <actionparsnip> ubuser: snes9x-gtk
[06:43] <SwedeMike> ZykoticK9: 10.10 might, I don't remember. Check the kernel version of each release, but I seem to remember it came around 2.6.33 or so
[06:43] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, you can basically configure your grub on your own, I wouldnt trust an application to do it for me
[06:43] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: still uses slow ass SATA conections though so is capped at 300Mbps
[06:43] <mercury_halo> how to disable the scroll wheel of the mouse?
[06:43] <Gnea> actionparsnip: interesting... have you read this? http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/03/01/ssds-journaling-and-noatimerelatime/
[06:43] <ubuser> will i need to install some dependcys
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> SwedeMike, so that's a no.  Thanks, i was just googling about it before i read your reply above, thought i'd just ask :)
[06:44] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, but if you insist on an application to do it for you then why dont you google for it, you dont want to tell me what OSes you use so im showing you the way I would do it on ubuntu
[06:44] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, You are prolly right..like I said I will see if I can find the right grub files to modify
[06:44] <KE1HA> rogetr that, but 3gbs vls 100mbs is a massive improvement.
[06:44] <spine> hi, is anyone here very familiar with kismet?
[06:44] <lostinspace_46> Sorry Win7 and ubuntu lucid
[06:45] <KE1HA> Bott times are amazing, especially on Linux boxes, even with the Bloated Vista Machines I was astounded.
[06:45] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, grub is grub, whatever OS you use it is still grub, there might be a few differences though, like how you name the files but it's still grub, no doubt about it
[06:45] <KE1HA> oops boot times..
[06:45] <actionparsnip> Gnea: funky stuff. I tried to use the noatime option and it made my partition not mount
[06:45] <drcasper> guys do i need a swap file partition with a ssd ?
[06:45] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, you have ubuntu lucid installed on your machine???
[06:45] <spine> is anyone here very familiar with kismet?
[06:46] <Gnea> actionparsnip: o.O
[06:46] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: look at PCIexpress SDcard readers ;) FAST!
[06:46] <ubuser> wow thx parsnip
[06:46] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Well that is how I looked at it...I guess I will open s couple .mod files and see if I can make the changes I want there...it's all just cosmetics
[06:46] <ubuser> u think itll work on ub 5.1?
[06:46] <KE1HA> rrr will do, not used them before.
[06:47] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Yes lucid is installed
[06:47] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, if you want to install bazaar: sudo apt-get install bzr
[06:47] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: or pciexpress raid controllers controlling SSD drives. very fast indeed
[06:47] <sparky> any one know hoe to get a lap top mic to work for skype
[06:47] <ubuser> actionpar, do you think this snes will run on ubuntu 5.1
[06:47] <kurtis> Is anyone Familiar with #!Brunchbang Linux? Trying to find an easy way to get all my drivers without having to go from site to site
[06:48] <bazhang> ubuser, 5.10?
[06:48] <ubuser> zsnes need libpng,nasm,sdl and zlib
[06:48] <actionparsnip> ubuser: what's ubuntu 5.1, hoary?
[06:48] <ubuser> yeah, snes9x-1.4
[06:48] <ubuser> 1.5
[06:48] <illac> alphagas: I'm not sure man, that's a slippery one
[06:48] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Not wanting to look dumber than i already do..heheh..I got bzr, I just can't figure out how to download the package
[06:48] <bazhang> ubuser, that is not supported
[06:48] <illac> alphagas: still looking
[06:48] <alphagas> illac :-/ bummer
[06:48] <ubuser> i know its old, but its all updated
[06:48] <ubuser> but no internet
[06:48] <ubuser> sound works and all
[06:49] <ubuser> its got python 2.4 gcc and other stuff
[06:49] <spine> anyone here good with kismet??
[06:49] <bazhang> ubuser, upgrade to a recent version if you wish support
[06:49] <kisuke> !wicd
[06:49] <ubuser> do you think itll work tho..?
[06:49] <kisuke> !network manager
[06:49] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I think I will check the bazaar channel
[06:49] <KE1HA> actionparsnip, 512 GB Drive 2200 Bucks LOL... not anytiem soo here :-)
[06:49] <actionparsnip> ubuser: if you can satisfy deps, sure why not
[06:49] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, thats ok, dont worry aboutit, just ask away -- I dont know what package youre trying to download so cant help you there, usually they tell you how to do it if they use bazaar, but for now you can install a GUI that will help you modify grub to get you started
[06:50] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: only need a 10Gb one for / your user data rubbish can go on a SATA as speed is less necessary
[06:50] <hylian> after the update today i noticed that firebird greyes out the screen a lot, and that closing tabs also slows things down and greyes it.
[06:50] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux,  This app   http://grub.gibibit.com/Theme_format
[06:50] <kurtis> Is anyone Familiar with #!Brunchbang Linux? Trying to find an easy way to get all my drivers without having to go from site to site
[06:50] <ubuser> say i went to download some for ubuntu, what platform is it
[06:50] <KE1HA> would be nice to play with fer sure :-)_
[06:50] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, And it IS in a bazaar branch
[06:50] <bazhang> kurtis, try #crunchbang as its not supported here
[06:50] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, sudo apt-get install startupmanager ---> use startupmanager to change GRUB, if grub still doesnt look fancy enough then you can tru something more, before you do any changes to your grub, read this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager
[06:51] <kurtis> Alright.
[06:51] <ubuser> im actually on 9.10 so its cool
[06:51] <bazhang> ubuser, if thats the case then it should work
[06:51] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I have done all the startupmanager allows
[06:51] <ubuser> linux works under ubuntu
[06:52] <ubuser> but i want the snes .e*e on my desktop
[06:52] <bazhang> ubuser,  a launcher?
[06:52] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, ok first lets download the software then, fire up a command prompt and go to a place where you want to download all the software, let me know when youre ready
[06:52] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: also if you use the toram cheat code for your OS, and have enough ram, you wont even touch the drive for OS activity as its already in ram
[06:52] <ubuser> yeah
[06:52] <ubuser> not a shortcut
[06:52] <ubuser> the whole snesx source
[06:52] <ubuser> but i dont know which to choose, linux?
[06:53] <bazhang> ubuser, that's not the way to install or run things
[06:53] <ubuser> i use terminal
[06:53] <KE1HA> ram is definately better than SSD, and it's cheap these days.
[06:53] <ubuser> it is from a cd
[06:53] <hylian> anyone else notice how slow firefox is? seamonkey is unaffected and so is epiphany...?
[06:54] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: exactly, its one thing that makes puppy great :)
[06:54] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I am more than ready...but shouldn't we do this with PM?
[06:54] <KE1HA> Yes, FF has been slow on all the machines I've put 10.04 on, have not figured out why yet.
[06:54] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, this is how you download the branch for that software: bzr branch http://grub.gibibit.com/bzr/gfxmenu
[06:54] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: you can make the ubuntu live cd do it too with some tweaks
[06:54] <ubuser> what was ubuntu written in/with
[06:55] <actionparsnip> ubuser: C and machine code most likely
[06:55] <hylian> well thanx all, im gonna crash
[06:55] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, here is fine, i  have never done this before so you want as much input as you can get
[06:55] <hylian> !bye
[06:55] <KE1HA> rr. I PXE boot about 15 machines for crunching numbers, works a treat with UB-Server. Exported /homes to an HD
[06:55] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: try arora or swiftfox or midori
[06:56] <KE1HA> I loaded Arora this eveing, haven't played with it much yet though.
[06:56] <spine> anyone here good with kismet?
[06:56] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, and thats it,  that should download all the stuff that you want, next comes the fun part, configuring it, good luck!
[06:57] <ubuser> well i surely hope tar.bz2's open on ubuntu it doesnt play avi's
[06:57] <KE1HA> ubuser, what do you mean written in ?
[06:57] <ubuser> without CODEC anyway
[06:57] <ubuser> idk
[06:57] <ubuser> linux works on it
[06:57] <ubuser> with*
[06:57] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux,  Maybe I did this wrong, I got this  bzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for http://grub.gibit.com/bzr/gfxmenu/.bzr/branch-format: Unable to handle http code 400: Bad Request
[06:58] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, OOPS I see what I did wrong
[06:58] <ubuser> there 10 emu's one should work wish me luck
[06:59] <ubuser> + deps for zsnes
[06:59] <nimbiotics> Flannel: here's my fstab (http://dpaste.com/222625/) and this is the result of blkid (http://dpaste.com/222626/) Hope you can help. TIA!
[07:00] <Flannel> nimbiotics: The second line, put a # in front of it.
[07:00] <Flannel> nimbiotics: ("Use 'blkid -o....)
[07:00] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, if you still have more problems downloading the software: http://grub.gibibit.com/bzr/
[07:01] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, There..seems to be downloading now...may take awhile..this Phils internet connection is not too good
[07:01] <ubuser> 60kbs a sec to a flash drive, sad
[07:01] <ubuser> omg a 100
[07:01] <IdleOne> ubuser: Do you have a support question or just feel like complaining and giving us a play by play?
[07:02] <spine> lol does anyone where i can get support for kismet?
[07:02] <ubuser> nah good on 9.10 side
[07:02] <juju2143> ok now how I install radeonfb?
[07:02] <kaeles> so i installed lucid lynx on my htpc to replace the xbmc live cd i had been running for like 6 months now, and it works fine other than the sound will cut out after using it for awhile, for example, if I click on the sounds in the sound preference over and over for ~5 seconds, the sound cuts out, and is replaced by really scratchy deep sounds instead of the glass or barking or whatnot, its weird, never had an issue with xmbc live,
[07:02] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, bazaar could also just be taking its time, good luck!  If you need more help you want to ask for someone to help you configure grub2 for eye candy,  good night
[07:03] <nimbiotics> Flannel: thanks, will try that and let you know in 10
[07:04] <kaeles> anyone have a clue as to what would cause my sound to stop working correctly after playing sounds for ~5 to 30 seconds?
[07:04] <tucemiux> kaeles, sounds (no pun intended) like a bug with pulseaudio
[07:04] <subcool> KE1HA, hey- sorry about before, i was looking for the one i was trying to give flak to- and then i saw u said that, and i was like crap- my bad.
[07:04] <kaeles> tucemiux: ok, so how would i go about changing back to alsa, if thats possible?
[07:04] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, It's working..don't know how long it will take at 5-38kbs though.  38kbs is my top right now..upgrading to a whole 1meg tomorrow...wooohooo
[07:04] <KE1HA> no worries, been frustrated many times myself.
[07:07] <kaeles> maybe I will try turning on the realtime scheduling for the pulseaudio and see if that helps
[07:07] <kaeles> it only seems to cut out when i am making the machine "work"
[07:08] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux Sry, closed the wrong window
[07:08] <Lazy^> hello, how i can extract all .rar files from a directory. Since i have 5 different .rar sets in same directory
[07:09] <lostinspace_46> Lazy Right click on the file you want, and select opens with..then .RAR
[07:10] <Lazy^> in terminal =)
[07:10] <Lazy^> i dont have X
[07:10] <lostinspace_46> Lazy Although I think i will open with archive manager
[07:10] <Lazy^> with X np, but in terminal
[07:10] <Lazy^> unrar x <but which parameters, so it opens all the files>
[07:11] <lostinspace_46> Lazy..hmmm   not sure how to open all at once
[07:12] <lostinspace_46> Lazy Just open one at a time I guess..heheh
[07:12] <Lazy^> takes 4ever
[07:12] <Lazy^> grr
[07:13] <lostinspace_46> Lazy maybe unrar path/to/file    use *.rar for filename
[07:13] <KE1HA> Lazy, do yourself a favor, and install all those compression utilities, 7zip,  rar, lrzip p7zip etc, there small and save lots of nagging problems like that
[07:14] <lostinspace_46> KE1HA, I think he is using strictly command line
[07:14] <lostinspace_46> no GUI
[07:15] <KE1HA> even more reason to install them, atleast those that have CL ability.
[07:15] <nio> hello all
[07:15] <kaeles> did they switch to pulseaudio only in lucid?
[07:16] <kaeles> I mean, did they switch to using pulse audio in lucid, or was it used before
[07:16] <nio> which is the best for thinclient tmpfs or ramfs
[07:17] <lostinspace_46> KE1HA, Ah, I see what you mean, I think he has at least rar since he can run unrar...his issue I think was opening several files at once
[07:18] <KE1HA> I woud do, at a minimum: sudo aptitude install unace rar unrar zip unzip
[07:19] <lostinspace_46> KE1HA, I agree....so very handy
[07:19] <KE1HA> maybe even  p7zip-full p7zip-rar uudeview mpack lha arj
[07:19] <KE1HA> the first ones I have on all my headless servers.
[07:20] <lostinspace_46> KE1HA,  sudo apt-get install *.decompress
[07:20] <lostinspace_46> LOL
[07:20] <KE1HA> I mostly use tar and gzip or bz2 for daily stuff
[07:21] <lostinspace_46> KE1HA, Yeah, same here, except im my family's win install where I use rar
[07:21] <nio> i am trying to make a custom kernel based on ubuntu10.04lts for diskless thinclient I am getting a problem unable to mount /proc and /sys on tmpfs and cannot find init..... trying to kill init. i checked several time and provided boot=initrd to the boot option. any help is deeply appriciated
[07:21] <lostinspace_46> gotta run for a while...later
[07:22] <nimbiotics> Flannel: i havent been able to edit fstab ... can you please tell me how?
[07:22] <Flannel> nimbiotics: Are you on the LiveCD still?
[07:22] <nio> sudo gedit fstab
[07:22] <nio> sorry sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:23] <Flannel> nio: Should always use gksu or gksudo with graphical programs
[07:23] <nio> hmmm i was using sudo only
[07:23] <nio> thankx
[07:23] <KE1HA> command line: VIM or Nano .. simple and very effective.
[07:23] <kaeles> this is making my brain hurt, its so random as to whether I have sound issues or not, I even disabled pulseaudio in the startup programs
[07:23] <nio> flannel did you read my problm above
[07:24] <nimbiotics_> Flannel: sorry, lost connection
[07:24] <Flannel> nimbiotics_: No worries.  Are you still on your liveCD session?
[07:24] <KE1HA> nio, these are going to be PXE boot thin clients ?
[07:24] <nio> yes
[07:25] <nio> i am working for 1 week day and night
[07:26] <nio> the problem is in init program but could not able to solve and point out
[07:26] <Lazy^> KE1HA: this works: ls *.rar | xargs -i unrar x {}
[07:26] <spine> is anyone here experienced with kismet?
[07:26] <KE1HA> nio, I dont know the exact problem, but here's the guide I used when testing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto
[07:26] <nio> recent status the client boots and leave me with the status unable to find init
[07:27] <nimbiotics> Flannel: no, i'm not, but i just did edit fstab. as nio pointed out, i was omitting sudo. let me reboot and i'll let you know what hapenned
[07:27] <KE1HA> Lazy, yes that will unrar allot of things if it finds it :-)
[07:29] <abcba> fujfhxdazs
[07:29] <kisuke> does any one have any idea how to fix "association took too long" errors?
[07:30] <abcba> ;jn;l'
[07:30] <KE1HA> kisuke, are you using WPA wireless? is that where the error is happening?
[07:30] <iflema> spine you wireless card must support promiscuous/monitor mode....... and your straying offtopic...
[07:31] <spine> it supports it
[07:31] <oaf> how to change crontab's default editor into Vim?
[07:31] <spine> i'm just having trouble with the software itself
[07:31] <spine> not the hardware or drivers
[07:31] <iflema> spine this is not the place.
[07:32] <kisuke> KE1HA: one sec and i will paste bin the last 30 lines of /var/logs/daemon.log
[07:32] <Flannel> oaf: in your bashrc, add export EDITOR=vim (assuming you want it to stick)
[07:32] <spine> k
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Oaf: http://www.netadmintools.com/art395.html
[07:32] <nio> flannel thanks for the link but i don't want ltsp reason it need linux only server and uses nfs actually i want complete thinclient os on the ram and client works independently aftr boot process
[07:32] <oaf> thanks all
[07:32] <Lazy^> KE1HA: yep, from that directory =). That was the thing which i were looking for
[07:33] <KE1HA> kisuke, first though, is this a wireless conneciton error? if not wehre / when is the error happening, and what Ubuntu Version are we talkign about here?
[07:33] <kurtis> What other program do you use with WINE thats good for online gaming?
[07:34] <KE1HA> nio, i think you want a straight netboot solutino, let me have a look in my files here.
[07:34] <phenrique> Has anyone installed Ubuntu on an external hard drive? Can you boot in another machine with no problems or no problem of drivers? It is totally impractical to boot in another machine or not?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: world of warcraft, halflife based games, return to castle wolfenstein. Check the appdb under the games filter
[07:35] <kisuke> KE1HA: ubuntu 10.04 netboook remix, and yes it is a wlan problem, now that the darn thing (mostly) works
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> phenrique: will be fine provided you don't have an xorg.conf defined
[07:35] <kurtis> Where do I look for that sir? I don't know what that is.
[07:35] <KE1HA> kisuke, there's a bug in the wpasuplicant aps, a couple actually.
[07:35] <kisuke> !appdb | kurtis
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | kurtis
[07:35] <roved2101> yeehaa
[07:36] <kurtis> Thank you guys for your quick replys and help! :)
[07:36] <nio> not all program runs with wine
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: there are native online games too like urbanterror and alienarena
[07:36] <krish> guys how to turn off screen lock feature
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: there's also quakelive which runs in flash
[07:36] <kisuke> KE1HA: ther is also a kernel regression that makes getting broadcom 43xx wireless chipsets working ...painful
[07:37] <nio> i tried to run rdp v6 on wine but it don't work
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> krish: when does it occur?
[07:37] <nio> Ke1ha are you giving me something :)
[07:37] <nio> i am waiting
[07:37] <krish> ActionParsnip: every 5-10 mins
[07:38] <krish> i want to disable it
[07:38] <kisuke> KE1HA: pastebin.ubuntu.com/470113
[07:38] <krish> if left idle i dont want screen to lock
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Krish: so it just locks and you have to enter your password?
[07:38] <krish> ActionParsnip: yeah
[07:38] <krish> but this is inside a VM
[07:38] <krish> my vm is always on
[07:38] <nimbiotics> Flannel: That fixed two big issues, thanks un bunch!!!
[07:39] <krish> my base OS i dont mind getting locked
[07:39] <krish> but everytime i need to unlock the vm
[07:39] <krish> brb
[07:39] <KE1HA> kisuke, VM? what's the base OS?
[07:40] <kisuke> KE1HA: ubuntu 10.04 netbook remix, on a dell 910 netbook
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> krish: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466504
[07:40] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[07:40] <kisuke> KE1HA: its not a VM
[07:41] <ShapeShifter499> how do I get the "pretty" exe thumbnailer
[07:41] <ShapeShifter499> ?
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: add the wine ppa maybe?
[07:41] <ShapeShifter499> ahhh
[07:41] <KE1HA> kisuke, ok, so this is a native install on your Dell Notebook yes?
[07:41] <ShapeShifter499> I did not know I needed that
[07:41] <kisuke> KE1HA: yes
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: mine does it and I use that version so I'm guessing its what is needed
[07:42] <KE1HA> rr, send in the bug report, as the wpa aps has a few issues.
[07:42] <nimbiotics> Flannel: Again, thank you very much. I've stil got at least half a dozen issues after upgrade to 10.04, but thats all for me today. I need a break. God bless you
[07:43] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: thanks I'll try that
[07:43] <KE1HA> I've read a couple bug reports on the wpasuplicant applicaitno, but its not accross all NIC's.
[07:43] <nio> ke1ha if you peek inside the kernel /script/local is the file which is used when we work on the system with hdd i write my own file named init and pass the argument to the kernel but still it says no init. may be it is due to some wrong command for mounting the virtual file system
[07:43] <HeTaL> Anyone here with basic WEP cracking knowledge?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> !ot | HeTaL
[07:43] <songer> hello
[07:43] <kisuke> HeTaL: try #aircrack or #aircrack-ng
[07:43] <bazhang> HeTaL, offtopic for this network and channel
[07:44] <bazhang> kisuke, they wont like it there either
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> !hi | songer
[07:44] <HeTaL> Arigato.
[07:44] <KE1HA> nio, that would be my "guess" or it's not getting the correct VFS location
[07:44] <kisuke> baz and they wont why?
[07:44] <bazhang> kisuke, offtopic for the network
[07:44] <songer> i neeed  help to use a cell phone as modem fom metro pcs
[07:45] <KE1HA> but, it's its starting to boot, then it's found the kernel, and the file system structure is not being passed or located correctly, which is odd.
[07:45] <kisuke> !mobile broadband | songer
[07:45] <nio> ke1ha what is your base ox
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: factoids don't hve spaces
[07:45] <songer> yes kisuke
[07:45] <kisuke> KE1HA: any ideas?
[07:45] <KE1HA> nio, for what, my servers?
[07:45] <nio> your os
[07:46] <nio> uname -r
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> songer: telling folks the make /model is good too ;)
[07:46] <KE1HA> nio, on the PXE's they are all on 8.04-server-64 at the moment, several desktoips on 10.04 and laptops on 10.04, bnut the boot sequence and file structure would be the same on either version.
[07:47] <songer> moto ve240 is motorola
[07:47] <songer> ActionParsnip,
[07:47] <KE1HA> kisuke, not much I can do on this one im affraid, if it's working, yet intermitently, they your setup and config is correct, and like I said earlier, there's a couple of bugs in the WPA applicaitons.
[07:48] <kisuke> KE1HA: any ideas where i can get the nightlys?
[07:48] <nio> actually i had sucessfully make diskless tc on 8.04 hady but the performance of rdesktop is too slow i really don't know the reason
[07:48] <KE1HA> kisuke, I dont use them, too many troubles as it is, but hold on, will have a look.
[07:49] <nio> thats why i am trying completely on 10.04lts
[07:49] <kisuke> KE1HA: thanks
[07:49] <songer> gnome ppp say:  Invalid dial command
[07:50] <glaksmono> anyone here?
[07:50] <KE1HA> kisuke, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[07:50] <odb|fidel> glaksmono: ask a real question
[07:50] <KE1HA> Dont shout if it breaks :-)
[07:50] <glaksmono> for some reason, my VI isn't setup properly on the keyboard
[07:50] <glaksmono> when i press up arrow for example, it types A, and such
[07:51] <glaksmono> can't do backspace..
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Glaksmono: scroll lock or numlock make a difference at all?
[07:52] <glaksmono> ActionParsnip, nope :(
[07:53] <nio> ke1hai had hardy on laptop i directly run the rdesktop it is still slow. i tried to update rdesktop from 1.5 to 1.6 but there is no update available with the synaptic nor through apt-get so i manually complle the application but still rdesktop perform poor and in low bandwith it disconnects as compare to my fedora9. i am completely fed up and so i install latst 10.04 ubuntu and make it a base
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> glaksmono: any hidden files in $HOME to configure the app?
[07:53] <glaksmono> hmmm
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Nio: instead of compiling I recommend searching the ppas first
[07:53] <glaksmono> hmmm.. home as in ~ right?
[07:53] <glaksmono> yeah, of course..
[07:53] <KE1HA> glaksmono, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup This will re-install the console-tools package, which will remap your keyboard layout if you select something different.
[07:54] <KE1HA> or in this case, may reset what is clearly out of whack.
[07:54] <therealpsychx> Trying to load Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on a Gateway 4540 laptop, and no matter if I boot or install Ubuntu - it just goes to a black screen. It shows the splash screen for Ubuntu, then when it's done loading (confirmed in the text based boot) it goes to a black screen. I can not get to desktop.
[07:55] <nio>  ppas has the solution for 64 bit machine only
[07:55] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, have you been able to boot completely with the Live-CD ?
[07:55] <nio> i searched for 1 day
[07:55] <glaksmono> KE1HA, my keyboard model isn't there :(*
[07:55] <glaksmono> i'm using Sony FZ-4000
[07:55] <KE1HA> glaksmono, try a standad keyboard or is it a laptop ?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> therealpsychx: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[07:55] <glaksmono> KE1HA, it's a laptop
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> KE1HA: its a known issue
[07:56] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: The Live-CD is doing the same thing. It will show the splash, then go to black.
[07:56] <KE1HA> Pick a generic Lappy first and see what the affect is.
[07:56] <glaksmono> KE1HA, it's a Generic 105-key
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> therealpsychx: a quick websearch would have given you the link I gave ^
[07:56] <kisuke> ok thats it im building from source
[07:57] <KE1HA> ActionParsnip, Which one, the Keytboard or Black-Screen issue ?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> KE1HA: black screen
[07:57] <KE1HA> rr tnx, didn't know that. is it on Laptops & desktops?
[07:57] <mae_tae> people...whats wrong with this tar xjf ipcop-1.4.21-kernel-2.4.36.tar_.bz2 -C / touch  /var/run/need-depmod-2.4.36  <--- it says "NOT FOUND IN THE ARCHIVE", what does this mean?
[07:57] <mae_tae> please help me please
[07:57] <glaksmono> :(
[07:58] <therealpsychx> The link that ACtionParsnip did not work.
[07:58] <flowbee__> hey when i resize my terminal window AFTER i ssh'd into a server.  the text doesnt extend to new space;  it stpuidly overwrites the beginning of line. how to fix?
[07:58] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: The link that ActionParsnip provided, did not work.
[07:59] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, did not work meaning it did not fix the problem, or the link didn't work ?
[08:00] <spartan07> hey guys is it hard to enable 2 video cards in ubuntu 10.04? I want to setup 3 displays. Both vid cards are identical and 1 is working right now but when I stick the other in I get a panic @ boot
[08:00] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, also, look at Solutions-3 if there's no .conf file, you need to get a generic one in there somehow.
[08:01] <spartan07> is this something that needs to be done @ install time?
[08:02] <nuwan> i have a problem installing kubuntu-desktop from synaptic or tru apt-get in ubuntu 10.04... it gives the error saying unable to fetch paackage
[08:02] <KE1HA> spartan07, no, typically you will need to install restricted drivers, Post-Install, Example, My 2x 9800GT's played on a generic VID driver, then I loaded the Nvidia drivers after updates.
[08:02] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Sorry, was messing with the laptop. I meant that the solution did not work.
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Nuwan: try using a different source under software sources
[08:02] <mae_tae> people...whats wrong with this tar xjf ipcop-1.4.21-kernel-2.4.36.tar_.bz2 -C / touch  /var/run/need-depmod-2.4.36  <--- it says "NOT FOUND IN THE ARCHIVE", what does this mean?
[08:03] <nuwan> ActionParsnip: like ?
[08:03] <spartan07> KE1HA, im running nvidia R Drivers right now
[08:03] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: It seems to be stopping on: "Setting Sensors Limits" and says "[ok]"...
[08:03] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, you need to boot the live CD. mount your HD file system and check to see if you ahve an xorg.conf file.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> nuwan: the main server instead of the more local one selected, or the gb one if you don't already use it
[08:03] <spartan07> just found this thread but hes talking about 2 different cards http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53966
[08:04] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: How do I mount the HD file system? Sorry for such a stupid question. I'll search for it at the same time.
[08:04] <KE1HA> spartan07, is the system working properly now then ?>
[08:04] <nuwan> ActionParsnip:  shall i send u a copy of error message i get ?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> nuwan: just a different source, any will do
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> nuwan: my connect is dog slow, it'd be faster by pigeon. Sorry
[08:05] <spartan07> yea this is the one im on now. running fine 10.04 all updates. I was thinking of putting in the other card fireing it up and reconfiguring x but it gives me a panic @ boot
[08:05] <nuwan> ActionParsnip: ok thanks i will try and see now will let you know.. thanks
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> nuwan: if its stuff like: cannot find package x and so-on then the new source will probably solve it
[08:05] <mae_tae> ActionParsnip, how do i fix that command?
[08:05] <mae_tae> please help me please
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> mae_tae: fix what command?
[08:06] <mae_tae> ActionParsnip, this one, tar xjf ipcop-1.4.21-kernel-2.4.36.tar_.bz2 -C / touch  /var/run/need-depmod-2.4.36
[08:06] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, just use the file browser from the Live-CD, but you may run into fole permission issues when you copy the xorg.conf if its not done as sudo
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> mae_tae: no idea, what are you trying to achieve?
[08:06] <mae_tae> ActionParsnip, this one tar xjf ipcop-1.4.21-kernel-2.4.36.tar_.bz2 -C / touch  /var/run/need-depmod-2.4.36 <----- it says not found in archive
[08:07] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: As long as I run as sudo then I should be fine?
[08:07] <spartan07> KE1HA, did you ever run 2 vid cards with a live cd and work?
[08:07] <KE1HA> yes should be.
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> mae_tae: no idea at all dude, sorry
[08:07] <kurtis> Is there a way to boot a new OS from an Exsternal HD?
[08:07] <KE1HA> spartan07, Live-CD, no, it only used the one, only after install did I use both cards.
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: can you clarify "boot a new os" please
[08:08] <mae_tae> ActionParsnip, i just copy it because that was the instruction, i dont know what that command would do but that instruction
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: you can add the external partition to you existing grub and boot it, if that's what you mean
[08:09] <KE1HA> mae_tae, that's the / touch for ?
[08:09] <kurtis> How do I do that? and Can I boot/install it onto my second partition I made for it?
[08:09] <KE1HA> oops what is the / touch for, you putting the contensts of the tat into the need-dep file ?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> mae_tae: then ask the instructor for clarification, or find alternative instruction
[08:09] <mae_tae> yes it uses touch
[08:09] <nuwan> ActionParsnip: i tried the main server/UK main server but all failed same error
[08:10] <mae_tae> KEIHA, so how will i fix it?
[08:10] <KE1HA> I'd do the Touch first, then extract the file to the file you created.
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: you can boot any partition accessible to the kernel and able to boot
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> nuwan: without the output I'm stuck. Maybe someone on a faster connection can advise.
[08:10] <mae_tae> KE1HA, thats what i wonder for, because thats the instruction to upload ipcop-kernel
[08:11] <nuwan> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebindings/python-kde4_4.4.2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[08:11] <nuwan>   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[08:11] <mae_tae> that command was specified there
[08:11] <KE1HA> Its either not finding the Source File, you may try ./ ipcop-1.4.21-kernel-2.4.36.tar_.bz2 then then make the destination file and try it
[08:11] <nuwan> This is all i get
[08:12] <mae_tae> KE1HA, here's the link http://www.ipcops.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=12076
[08:12] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: How do I browse files from the Live-CD? It's not giving me the option - or at least, I don't see it.
[08:12] <KE1HA> The live-CD should ahve mounted the Internal hard Drive.,
[08:13] <mae_tae> KEIHA, ok ill try it, do i need pipe for that?
[08:13] <mae_tae> i see
[08:13] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: I'm at the Live-CD menu. It says things like "Try Ubuntu without installing" etc
[08:13] <KE1HA> mae_tae, Those are teo diffrent commands, the first is extracting the archinve, then created the Touch file, you can't combine them.
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> therealpsychx: you will need to mount yor internal partition using the places menu. You will need to run: gksudo nautilus ,to get write access
[08:13] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, yes, try witout installing.
[08:14] <KE1HA> ActionParsnip, can you help him wiht that part pse ?
[08:14] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: When I go to "Try Ubuntu without installing" it just loads then goes to a black screen.
[08:14] <cipherz> anyone have problems after upgrading to 2.6.32.24.25 in ubuntu 10.04 lts (amd64 arch)
[08:14] <SwedeMike> !details | cipherz
[08:14] <cipherz> when i boot i select ubuntu from my win7 boot menu and nothing else happens after that
[08:14] <KE1HA> Thata a problem, if you can Live-CD, your not gonna install.
[08:15] <KE1HA> oops if you can't.
[08:15] <cipherz> SwedeMike, sorry was hoping it was a general upgrade problem should have stated details prior to asking if i was the only one
[08:15] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Any ideas on what to do? It's not mine, it's a friend
[08:15] <KE1HA> Only thing I can suggest is try the full desktop version if the Laptop-Remix isn't booting.
[08:15] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: He was having this problem, I've tried a lot so far. DUnno
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> KE1HA: I just gave all s/he'll need to mount and write to the internal partitions if that's what is needed
[08:16] <SwedeMike> cipherz: well I upgraded to the nwe kernel the other day and it worked for me, so it's not a general problem.
[08:16] <KE1HA> rrr. but if he can't boot the Live-CD, he's stuck.
[08:16] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: He says that this is the Desktop version..
[08:16] <o2oo> hi
[08:16] <cipherz> SwedeMike, can always hope, but its highly unlikely :) just weird.. been using the old one for weeks, didnt touch anything else.. and finally decided to give it a go and restart it
[08:16] <chris_osx> therealpsychx: can you boot suse?
[08:17] <KE1HA> mae_tae, did you get my last post, the instruction said to Extract first, then Touch the other file, you can't do both on ome command line.
[08:17] <o2oo> I wonder if VirtualBox has the Mac OS version?
[08:17] <cipherz> but usually grub should display itself right ? (which is for me the odd part)
[08:17] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, rrr .. ok, then try the Laptop Version.
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: mine doesn't but my timeout is small
[08:18] <therealpsychx> chris_osx: openSUSE?
[08:18] <chris_osx> therealpsychx: yes
[08:18] <therealpsychx> chris_osx: I haven't tried yet. I will try that now.
[08:18] <cipherz> is there a way to remove the fancy start up tihng, so I can see what is going on ? :)
[08:18] <cipherz> the splash screen i think its called
[08:19] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, I must admit though, i've not seen a time where the Desktop version Would Not Boot, and the Laptop WOuld it's usually the other way around, but as ActioParsnip said, theres a bug on this issue.
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: press esc when plymouth shows
[08:19] <SwedeMike> cipherz: yes, edit the boot statement and remove quiet and splash
[08:19] <cipherz> thanks
[08:19] <cipherz> ActionParsnip, plymouth ?
[08:19] <cipherz> all I get is a cursor waiting and nothing else :(
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: the lucid boot splash is plymouth
[08:19] <cipherz> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[08:20] <cipherz> so guessing, reinstall grub (just to be on the safe side) and remove quiet/splash and increase time should at least help me get a clue whats going on
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: or you can edit /etc/default/grub and remove the boot options there
[08:20] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Yeah, I haven't seen this either. I'm going to try both SUSE and the laptop variant of Ubuntu.
[08:20] <cipherz> excellent :)
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: you must run: sudo update-grub ,to apply the change
[08:20] <KE1HA> Try the Ubuntu Laptop Version First.
[08:20] <rgnr> hey guys
[08:21] <rgnr> what the hell
[08:21] <cipherz> weird the timeout is like 10, so i should have least seen it hmm
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: you'll need to delete quiet splash from the quotes
[08:21] <rgnr> ubuntu cannot handle files larger than 3gb?
[08:21] <SwedeMike> rgnr: not correct.
[08:21] <cipherz> ActionParsnip, did that already :) just looking at the other options.. and guessing the timeout 10 is in seconds
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: it can hadle xb files
[08:21] <KE1HA> I have an Old ASUS A6V, and it went in really slick, even WPA worked out of the box, was well impressed with the Laptop Verion of 10.04 over 9.10
[08:21] <SwedeMike> rgnr: it can handle much larger, it depends on the filesystem and other factors.
[08:21] <rgnr> fs3
[08:22] <cipherz> hmm interesting
[08:22] <rgnr> it copies 3 gb and then gives an error with file to large
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: look at the wikipedia page for ext4
[08:22] <SwedeMike> rgnr: without providing more details there is no way to hepl you further. what FS are you running?
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: are there any bugs logged for it?
[08:22] <rgnr> oh its ext4
[08:23] <pico_> is there a solution for : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/511001
[08:23] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Did you ever try the desktop version on that?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: if you are copying to fat32 you will get that
[08:23] <SwedeMike> rgnr: ext4 should definitely be able to handle that.
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: but we have too little info to provide help
[08:24] <cipherz> i somehow doubt this can be good: Cannot find list of partitions! (update-grub)
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: try a different file manager too like thunar or pcmanfm. Maybe its a bug with nautilus
[08:24] <cipherz> I have mounted /dev and /proc .. tried running it with strace but cant seem to find anything of interest from the syscalls
[08:24] <rgnr> well i copy it to f32
[08:24] <rgnr> ad ntfs
[08:25] <trollboy> so where does evolution store its mailboxes?
[08:25] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, on my Laptop, no, only put Dekstop version on Desktops.
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: ntfs will be fine, fat32 has a fairly small maximum filesize so if you copy 3gb files to fat32 you will get that error
[08:25] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Is it the "netbook" version?
[08:26] <KE1HA> I have the Notebook version running on all my notebooks, server & desktops running on desktops.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: there's a suggestion on brainstorm to make the os look at the copy tasks to fat32 and then show a message saying "that won't work dave"
[08:27] <krish> ActionParsnip: thanks
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> KE1HA: netbook desktop on a server, bit weird
[08:27] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: I mean, I see you saying notebook - but on their website, it says netbook. And I thought there was a difference between notebooks and netbooks. I'm just a little confused.
[08:28] <KE1HA> ActionParsnip, no, my server / workstations have Server or Workstation only.
[08:28] <SwedeMike> rgnr: just out of curiosity, why didn't you tell us you were copying to an fat32 filesystem initially?
[08:28] <unresolved> hi im having trouble install Demume i have a guide from wikipedia but when i type Sudo Make it says no target specified and no makefile found . stop .
[08:28] <sgr> ?
[08:29] <unresolved> whats does that mean ?
[08:29] <KE1HA> Oh... SRI, I missunderstood as well :-) .. No NET-Books, only NoteBooks or "Laptops: here.
[08:29] <o2oo> Hi, I wonder if VirtualBox has the Mac OS version?
[08:30] <Melodist> wat
[08:30] <Melodist> 0200 i do not understand the question
[08:30] <KE1HA> o2oo, yes the have Virtualbox for Mac OS, but that's a bit off-topic for us here.
[08:31] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: So, if I want the laptop version - where can I find it? on Ubuntu.com I only see the Desktop and Netbook versions.
[08:31] <bazhang> o2oo, try ##apple
[08:33] <unresolved> ????/
[08:33] <unresolved> can anyone help with that ?
[08:33] <unresolved> hi im having trouble install Demume i have a guide from wikipedia but when i type Sudo Make it says no target specified and no makefile found . stop ......
[08:33] <unresolved> Desmume*
[08:33] <rgnr> SwedeMike: I wanted you to guess )
[08:34] <bazhang> unresolved, just install from repos
[08:34] <unresolved> repos ?
[08:34] <bazhang> unresolved, sudo apt-get install desmume
[08:35] <bazhang> !repos > unresolved
[08:35] <bazhang> unresolved, no need to compile, just install from software repositories (repos)
[08:35] <therealpsychx> unresolved: Alternatively, you could go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager - Then search for Desmume
[08:35] <bazhang> !info desmume | unresolved
[08:36] <unresolved> thatas the old Version
[08:36] <unresolved> that dosnt support wifi
[08:36] <unresolved> the gide i got was http://wiki.desmume.org/index.php?title=Installing_DeSmuME_from_source_on_Linux
[08:36] <unresolved> this is the guide i had
[08:36] <unresolved> but they didnt work
[08:36] <unresolved> lol
[08:36] <unresolved> :(
[08:36] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, sri, I got my "laptop" version from a PPA, designed fer Laptops, so I can't say it's Formally supported from Canonical.
[08:36] <FloodBot4> unresolved: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:37] <unresolved> i got stuck on Make
[08:37] <pradeep> hi good morning everyone
[08:37] <Dweezahr> good morning
[08:38] <rgnr> good mourning*
[08:38] <rgnr> :D
[08:39] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Can you tell me where to get the same one or a similar build to the one you have?
[08:40] <KE1HA> I was just looking for it, but I can't find the PPA at the moment, but irritating actually.
[08:40] <KE1HA> oops a bit irritating.
[08:41] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, I think the problem you have is with the Bug though. You need to submit a bug report on it.
[08:41] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Yeah, I'm searching as well. And what was the bug, again? Just about the screen going black?
[08:42] <cipherz> think I have found why my grub setup is erhmm interesting
[08:42] <cipherz> warn: Embedding is not possible. ....
[08:42] <rav014> what are the best feature of ubuntu-10.04? because i want to upgrade im using 9.10
[08:42] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, yes, all the detailes abt your setup, and the problems encountered. : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[08:43] <rav014> what are the best feature of ubuntu-10.04? because i want to upgrade im using 9.10
[08:43] <KE1HA> That;s a show stopper, so it should get allot of attention.
[08:43] <coz_> rav014,  well that is a bit difficult to aswer
[08:43] <coz_> rav014,   it boots faster
[08:43] <rav014> ok
[08:43] <coz_> rav014,  there are obious advantages of newer kernerls  etc
[08:44] <coz_> rav014,  and it is LTS
[08:44] <bazhang> !notes > rav014
[08:44] <coz_> rav014,   and I think it being LTS  is probably its' beggest advantage
[08:44] <rav014> ok thanks coz
[08:45] <coz_> rav014,  on the other hand... I never reccomend an upgrade from one version to the next.. I always reccomend  backing up what you need to and do a clean install
[08:45] <KE1HA> rav014, google Ubuntu 10.04 Reviews, all the major sited reviewd it, there's allot of improvements in 10.04.
[08:45] <mick02> coz_, How do you feel about keeping the home directory on another partition and then upgrading the OD that way i.e. never having to touch the home folder
[08:46] <rav014> thanks a lot guys because right now im downloading ubuntu-10.04-netbook
[08:46] <coz_> mick02,  in all honesty  I never do that  so I dont have much expeirence with it... I follow my own advice :)
[08:46] <coz_> rav014,  cool....
[08:46] <coz_> rav014,   why netbook?
[08:47] <OneMillionDollar> can starcraft 2 play on ubuntu
[08:47] <mick02> coz_, fair enough, I've been thinking about moving my home folder to it's own partition but I'm being quite lazy about doing it!
[08:47] <coz_> OneMillionDollar,  I cant answer that  here ... I am not much of a gamer
[08:47] <KE1HA> rav014, Im using Sever-64, Desktop-32 & 64 and have a PPA for my Laptop. After a few tweaks, there all running faily well for this stage in the distro, and like was said, it's a LTS release.
[08:47] <OneMillionDollar> i'm not a gamer too heheheehehe
[08:47] <coz_> mick02,  yeah on this point you may have to get the advice of someone else  and maybe good advice about that on ##linux channel :)
[08:47] <rav014> i like netbook because im always travelling
[08:48] <rav014> it's handy
[08:48] <rav014> small
[08:48] <OneMillionDollar> for 10 years i got pc only 2 games i play
[08:48] <OneMillionDollar> netbook better than the stupid ipad
[08:48] <coz_> rav014,   you may want to look into kubuntu's  netbook edition.. I found it nicer to work with... faster than the gnome one... and prettier as well :)
[08:48] <OneMillionDollar> steve jobs said ipad going to replace netbook an calling it rubbish
[08:48] <rav014> ok!
[08:48] <ciphersson> i have read every were that Star Trek onlline works under wine but i tried every thing to no avail
[08:49] <rav014> ipad -> proprietary!
[08:49] <coz_> rav014, actually ... I believe the  'minimal install"  cd  allows for either gnome netbook or kde netbook as well as ubuntu   edubuntu and kubuntu
[08:49] <coz_> rav014,  and its not difficult to work with however it is not a live cd
[08:50] <KE1HA> ciphersson, have you tried it with PlayOnLinux ?
[08:50] <trollboy> is it possible to do wildcards in linux hostfile?
[08:50] <livingdaylight> hi! if I've installed sun-java do I need to remove open-java to ensure sun-java is utilized henceforth?
[08:50] <ciphersson> yep
[08:50] <coz_> rav014,  the advantage of the minimal is that it download what it needs from the internet and it is always up to date after the install
[08:50] <ciphersson> <64 bit 10.04 lts on i7  gtx 260
[08:50] <rav014> i think kde is much better than gnome
[08:51] <rav014> in terms of desktop
[08:51] <rav014> nice graphic
[08:51] <coz_> rav014,  well I disagree but thats my personal opinion but I do believe the kde netbook is much nicer :)
[08:51] <ciphersson> ty
[08:51] <rav014> coz, i try kubuntu
[08:52] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, If you still there, I've not found this PPA yet, but stil hunting fer it.
[08:53] <coz_> rav014,   ok if you try it with the minimal install cd    when you bet the "boot" prompt   ...just hit enter
[08:53] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Yeah, I'm still here - thanks a lot!
[08:54] <KE1HA> the CLI only server install rocks! .. fast and no fluff added at all.
[08:55] <KE1HA> Of course, not desktop / GUI .. but once you get used to CLI, it's a breeze to admin.
[08:56] <quietone> I can't get ocr to work and my son needs it now. tesseract errors is "check_legal_image_size:Error:Only 1,2,4,5,6,8 bpp are supported:16" which means nothing to me. anything else I can try?
[08:56] <er0th> quit
[08:56] <Kartagis> !lamp
[08:56] <bmoses> Any alternatives to Unetbootin? That are worth it, feature-wise?
[08:57] <therealpsychx> livingdaylight: Did you ever get your answer?
[08:57] <livingdaylight> therealpsychx,
[08:58] <livingdaylight> therealpsychx, no
[08:58] <therealpsychx> livingdaylight: I'm looking, because I am wondering the same thing.
[08:58] <livingdaylight> therealpsychx, do you know whether ubuntu automatically chooses sun-java over open-java if they are installed side by side?
[08:58] <livingdaylight> i see
[08:59] <therealpsychx> livingdaylight: I'm not sure
[08:59] <KE1HA> quietone, not an exper on OCR  but here'a How-To: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR
[08:59] <livingdaylight> hi popey
[09:00] <livingdaylight> popey, do you know whether ubuntu automatically chooses sun-java over open-java if they are installed side by side?
[09:02] <therealpsychx> livingdaylight: I just uninstalled my openjava. openjdk in synaptic
[09:02] <mikeru> hey, anyone know of a DCC fileserver for Xchat?
[09:02] <livingdaylight> therealpsychx, I'm the opposite, I@m removing my openjdk
[09:03] <therealpsychx> livingdaylight: Yeah, that's what I removed. Now I only have Sun-Java.
[09:03] <KE1HA> mikeru, http://www.socosoftware.com/FS.html
[09:05] <cipherz> hello, I recently upgraded the kernel of my ubuntu 10.04 lts, and booted for the first time with it this morning. Now when I boot I just see a cursor and nothing else. Tried booting a live cd and re-running grub without luck also disabled quiet and splash and ensured that timeout was long enough to make it possible to see grub .. nothing
[09:05] <cipherz> i realized that apparantly grub cannot do embedding, and it should be noted that grub is installed in an extended partition, because of the partition scheme that lenovo t400 provides
[09:07] <Guest41778> Ubuntu
[09:07] <Naznaz> hi
[09:08] <Guest41778> hi
[09:08] <m3lvin> Hi, I'm looking for a good cli web browser, I've tried lynx and elinks, anyone have any recomendations? I would prefer to have VIM style motions
[09:08] <pradeep> Naznaz, hi
[09:08] <Naznaz> i got a strange problem with my internet connection on lucid, can anyone help me?
[09:08] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Um...I don't suppose you can be slightly more descriptive?
[09:08] <pradeep> Guest4113, hi
[09:09] <tensorpudding> how does one get flash on amd64 now that adobe pulled the plug on the 64-bit version of 10.0?
[09:09] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, what do you want to know ?
[09:10] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Describe, in order, what exactly happened; what changed from the time it was working properly, how your disk layout is - simple things.
[09:10] <hego> are questions about maverick allowed here, or is there a separate channel?
[09:10] <chris_osx> tensorpudding: i have flash on ubuntu 64 bit 19
[09:10] <chris_osx> 10
[09:10] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, gimme a sec writing up the story + partition scheme in a pastebin
[09:11] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Roger
[09:11] <tensorpudding> chris_osx: the stories that i'm hearing is that it got pulled and you can't use it anymore.
[09:12] <chris_osx> tensorpudding: where did you read that?
[09:12] <tsdh> Hi. I want to install a PPA from launchpad, but I'm missing the add-apt-repository command.  Where do I get that from?
[09:12] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Are you typing: sudo add-apt-respository blah blah blah?
[09:12] <spartan07> thanks for all your help calling it a night and working on the multiple video cards tom.
[09:13] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: yes
[09:13] <hego> @ tsdh: you can add the ppa to software sources
[09:13] <spartan07> KE1HA, thank you for your time.
[09:14] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, The general command would be: sudo add-apt-repository (insert PPA here) => check that you're typing it correctly...
[09:14] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Jwe7X0Uf - sorry the partition table is not fdisk -l but I am in windows right now
[09:14] <cipherz> thought about re-running easybcd ( see pastebin)
[09:14] <cipherz> and thanks in advance for helping me :)
[09:15] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Yes, I type exactly that.  Maybe my server runs a too old ubuntu version.  I already did "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade".  How do I know the version I'm running?
[09:16] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, I believe in this situation you're going to have to do the "Windows Boot Recovery" prior to doing the grub2 stuff...
[09:16] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, ''windows boot recovery'', just to make sure I understand you, ''re-run generation of windows boot menu'' ?
[09:16] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Um... cat /etc/issue => will tell you the version
[09:17] <tensorpudding> chris_osx: sorry, my irc client crashed
[09:17] <tensorpudding> they pulled the linux 64-bit flash from their website, and the partner channel on the software channel doesn't stock it anymore
[09:17] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, When booting with the Win7 disk, you can do a recovery => I personally use a "Vista Recovery Disk" that I downloaded for assistance with that kinda crap...
[09:18] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, ahh I cannot do that :) if I do that my lenovo mbr is trashed..
[09:18] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, As well, once I'm done, I boot a liveCD, then mount/chroot the partitions, THEN re-run grub
[09:18] <cipherz> and windows 7 boots just fine :) and yeah thats what I did ;) followed instructions just had to add --force
[09:18] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Well, then you can try what I just said - boot to a liveCD, chroot, then re-run grub2 matey
[09:19] <tensorpudding> there has to be a 64-bit libflashplayer.so lying around somewhere...
[09:19] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Ok, it is "Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS".  All the PPA howtos are for Karmic or later.  How do I upgrade to a newer version? (I always thought dist-upgrade would do that...)
[09:19] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, I did that already :) doesnt help :/
[09:20] <randy_> tsdh: dist-upgrade just does an upgrade of kernel and stuff like that
[09:20] <randy_> tsdh: misleading, i know...
[09:20] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, purge, update, then dist-upgrade...
[09:21] <randy_> has 8.04 -> 10.04 even been tested?  that has got to wreak some serious havoc on a system ...
[09:22] <SwedeMike> randy_: er, yes, it's been heavily tested. LTS->LTS is definitely a supported upgrade path.
[09:22] <tensorpudding> the only supported upgrade paths are adjacent releases and LTS to LTS upgrades, aren't they?
[09:22] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Have you double-checked your /etc/default/grub and also your /etc/grub.d configs?
[09:22] <SwedeMike> tensorpudding: yes.
[09:22] <jasonwryan> randy_: worked like a charm on my mother-in-laws machine :)
[09:23] <tsdh> randy, YankDownUnder
[09:23] <randy_> jasonwryan: yeah... i make too many odd changes for a normal upgrade.  i always run into issues.
[09:23] <tsdh> randy, YankDownUnder: I guess I also have to fiddle in the sources.list.d/?
[09:23] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, ya might wanna double check yer sources to make SURE they're pointing to the right places...
[09:24] <jasonwryan> randy_: Hers is a pretty vanilla box: I keep it simple for her...
[09:24] <Lyannie> uii
[09:24] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, have to admit I havent browsed through /etc/grub.d but I have been through /etc/default/grub (mainly to disable splash,quiet and make sure i had a timeout) but did look it over
[09:25] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, gonna try and boot with my easybcd changes, if nothing else I'll be online from the livecd and able to do a better detailed description
[09:25] <cipherz> brb
[09:25] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, When you initially set this up - since you don't want to touch the Lenovo MBR, did you set it up to boot into linux through the Windows boot mangler, or through grub?
[09:26] <Naznaz> I hope somebody can help me so i'll outline my problem in short :)
[09:26] <tsdh> YankDownUnder, randy: Here are some good instructions: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[09:26] <therealpsychx> How should I go about mounting a .daa file?
[09:26] <Naznaz> I'm on WLAN at an 16 Mbit connection, and apt download speed is very good about ~1,8 Mb/s
[09:26] <tsdh> Thanks!
[09:27] <Naznaz> But browsing is insanely slow (Firefox and Opera), sites do either load very slowly or i just get an error
[09:27] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, In all reality, mate, I don't do upgrades. In the past, um, 18 years, I've done THREE. All went south. So I don't. I do clean installations. Workstations, servers, whatever.
[09:27] <Naznaz> also tracepath www.google.de aborts after the server of the ISP
[09:27] <ttmrichter> What's the trick to get GCC working on Ubuntu/Lucid 64-bit?  When I install build-essential I get a gcc that can't compile because the back-end assembler doesn't recognize the 64-bit registers.
[09:27] <Naznaz> What can i do? :)
[09:27] <randy_> Naznaz: have you tried using a different DNS server?
[09:27] <Naznaz> no, how?
[09:27] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: do sites load slowly or is there a long wait before they start loading and then they load quickly?
[09:27] <LinuxPhreak> I just had some wierd power searge and my computers turned off. On my Ubuntu Server when it restarted I get an command line that says (initramfs) how do I fix the problem
[09:28] <Naznaz> long wait before loading starts (if loading starts)
[09:28] <Naznaz> and sometimes a very fast error
[09:28] <randy_> Naznaz: SwedeMike it feels like to me that DNS isn't resolving like its supposed to
[09:28] <YankDownUnder> therealpsychx, I convert them to an ISO then mount 'em.
[09:28] <Naznaz> (but only in opera)
[09:28] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Well, the server is only a virtual image, so I don't have a change to do a clean install on my own.
[09:28] <tsdh>  
[09:28] <tsdh>  
[09:28] <tsdh>  
[09:28] <tsdh>  
[09:28] <FloodBot4> tsdh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <therealpsychx> YankDownUnder: What do you use to convert them?
[09:29] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: then you most likely have a dns problem, use wireshark or alike to track what's going on on the wire, if a DNS request is timeouting for instance.
[09:29] <randy_> Naznaz: you can test your DNS real quick by using the dig command (or nslookup)
[09:29] <randy_> Naznaz: for example... $ dig google.com
[09:29] <YankDownUnder> therealpsychx, AcetoneISO mate
[09:29] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: might be ipv6 related, look for AAAA request and answer in the DNS traffic.
[09:29] <therealpsychx> YankDownUnder: Thanks!
[09:30] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, so I have been using grub-legacy from easybcd since my original 10.04 lts install.. and its been working.. but i decided to try, just for the fun of it, if their grub2 worked
[09:30] <Naznaz> but if it's a dns-problem, shouldn't the same problem appear on windows?
[09:30] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, and the grub-legacy didnt .. but grub2 did.. hmm
[09:30] <LinuxPhreak> anyone know how to fix BusyBox error on Ubuntu 10.04
[09:30] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: not it's not a pure dns problem most likely, but dns might be one part.
[09:30] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Mate, I've been sticking to grub2 - or lilo (for some of my client's boxen)
[09:31] <randy_> Naznaz: i concur.  IF your DNS responses take a long time (they should be almost immediate via the dig command) then we know where to start looking
[09:31] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, Change the settings to ignore IPv6, restart the connection, see if that helps.
[09:31] <Naznaz> okay, I'll post the output of  dig. one moment
[09:31] <randy_> Naznaz: thats not necessary
[09:32] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, well I didnt really choose anything in the install, and as far as I know grub2 is default in ubuntu.. but didnt know that earlier.. (so used easybcd's legacy support .. without problems until last kernel upgrade hmm something else besides the kernel must have been installed :) )
[09:32] <Naznaz> okay, it seems to be fast :)
[09:32] <Naznaz> I'll try disabling ipv6, brb
[09:32] <randy_> Naznaz: did you try a website name you don't normally go to??
[09:32] <guido_> ubuntu.it
[09:32] <randy_> Naznaz: its possible you received a cached response...
[09:32] <Naznaz> no
[09:32] <Naznaz> oh ok
[09:33] <Naznaz> a website i never went to takes somewhat longer but is still fast
[09:33] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, I'd use what is packaged - which is grub2 by default - using the easybcd is fine and dandy, but I'd say you're going to have more ease by re-installing grub2 from the liveCD - doing the re-mount and chroot prior
[09:33] <Naznaz> ipv6 is already set to ignore
[09:33] <randy_> Naznaz: what kind of internet connection do you have?
[09:33] <Naznaz> ADSL
[09:33] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, Add in another DNS server that's not in your country - like 139.130.4.5
[09:34] <Naznaz> also very fast response
[09:34] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, I think I am really poor at expressing myself, because when I read your replies it doesnt make sense according to what I have done.. sorry :) one last time: I tried what you just did, without luck, changed my windows boot menu options and voila.. dont know how it worked before as grub2 always have been default in ubuntu 10.04 .. but thanks a lot for your time and have a nice day :)
[09:34] <therealpsychx> YankDownUnder: Do you ever have problems converting files with acetoneiso?
[09:34] <guido_> come faccio ad andare su ubuntu.it? grazie
[09:34] <SwedeMike> !it | guido_
[09:35] <YankDownUnder> therealpsychx, Not unless they're corrupted...
[09:35] <therealpsychx> YankDownUnder: Oh, ok. It told me something about losing the first layer or something like that. I'm still trying it.
[09:35] <chris_osx> is there a free replacement for the flashplugin?
[09:35] <randy_> Naznaz: and you say windows computers work fine..  hmm...
[09:36] <Naznaz> yes, my gf's laptop running vista is just fine
[09:36] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: you mentioned opera, do the different browsers behave differently?
[09:36] <pradeep> Naznaz, go format it n put ubuntu then maybe vm vista
[09:36] <pradeep> lol
[09:36] <therealpsychx> If I want to mount something, do I just cp it to the media directory that i have? ie: /media/iso
[09:36] <SwedeMike> therealpsychx: cp doesn't mount anything.
[09:37] <randy_> Naznaz: and you run wireless.  its possible that you're losing a lot of packets (errors) over the radio link.
[09:37] <YankDownUnder> therealpsychx, You should be able to mount it from wherever it's at - no need to copy it anywhere...
[09:37] <Naznaz> SwedeMike: opera sometimes immediately throws an error, while firefox takes some seconds and then starts loading
[09:37] <therealpsychx> sudo mount -o loop filename ?
[09:37] <Naznaz> i dunno, I'm sitting right next to the router
[09:37] <randy_> Naznaz: have you tried a wired connection to see if the problem goes away?
[09:37] <Naznaz> nope
[09:37] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: again, my advice is to use wireshark and look at what's going on on the wire.
[09:37] <Naznaz> okay thanks
[09:37] <Naznaz> I'll try wired first
[09:37] <Naznaz> brb
[09:38] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, You can also change the MTU to 1500 instead of "automatic" - I find that helps heaps.
[09:38] <SwedeMike> why do people hate actually looking what's going on at the packet layer?
[09:38] <pradeep> Naznaz, what does wireshark   do
[09:38] <Naznaz> ?
[09:38] <spaceghost_> why are my user folders (e.g. /home/me/downloads) absent in file choosing prompts yet present in normal navigation?
[09:38] <randy_> SwedeMike: its not that.  we are all not OSI professionals working on the linklayer on a daily basis
[09:38] <pradeep> does anyone know an appon ubuntu for bandwith management on a network
[09:39] <randy_> SwedeMike: unless you know what to look for, its all gibberish
[09:39] <ttmrichter> What's the trick to get GCC working on Ubuntu/Lucid 64-bit?  When I install build-essential I get a gcc that can't compile because the back-end assembler doesn't recognize the 64-bit registers.  Here's the output on a freshly-installed Ubuntu 10.4 system with build-essential installed: http://ideone.com/G8WUZ
[09:39] <hrhrhr_> morning
[09:39] <randy_> pradeep: bandwidth management has historically been a sticky/difficult subject in the linux community primarily due to a lack of documentation
[09:39] <hrhrhr_> am i right in thinking .bash_profile is executed at login?
[09:39] <hrhrhr_> and .bashrc upon 'su/sudo' ?
[09:39] <SwedeMike> randy_: but if you do, it's an excellent tool in finding out what's going on. I work as an network engineer and "server people" seem to hate to have to look at what's actually going on.
[09:40] <randy_> pradeep: truly, Linux has extremely powerful QoS tools, but no one knows how to use them ;)
[09:40] <hrhrhr_> i have aliases which don't work after sudoing
[09:40] <YankDownUnder> hrhrhr_, For bash, yes. the ~.profile is for your environment stuff
[09:40] <pradeep> RaNdy_ hmmm i c
[09:40] <SwedeMike> randy_: and it's not that hard, spend 20-30 minutes reading up on DNS and TCP and you will have a lot of use for it.
[09:40] <hrhrhr_> YankDownUnder: .bash_profile or .profile? does it matter/
[09:40] <YankDownUnder> hrhrhr_, If you describe what you're trying to accomplish, that may help
[09:41] <pradeep> RaNdY_ so who wrote them
[09:41] <randy_> SwedeMike: i never said that I haven't done that.  I'm just suggesting that it may not be necessary for Naznaz to do that if its a Driver issue as opposed to a network issue
[09:42] <randy_> pradeep: a magical individual by the name of Alexey N. Kuznetsov did a lot of the work (and I assume he takes a lot of the credit) even though a countless number of people had a hand in it...
[09:42] <N4zroth> <- Naznaz
[09:42] <hrhrhr_> YankDownUnder: i have basic aliases such as c=clear in my .bash_profile
[09:42] <hrhrhr_> when i sudo
[09:42] <hrhrhr_> i lose these
[09:42] <N4zroth> still the same problem with wired connection
[09:42] <N4zroth> and
[09:42] <N4zroth> when i input google.com instead of www.google.com in opera i immediately get a network error
[09:42] <FloodBot4> N4zroth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:42] <YankDownUnder> hrhrhr_, Well, then the question has just been answered.
[09:44] <randy_> pradeep: there have been *some* tools written to make bandwidth management easier/manageable, but none of them are gui based (at least not in Ubuntu that i know of)...
[09:44] <randy_> pradeep: i found in my experience, though, that they weren't very good/extensible
[09:45] <Naznaz> brb switching to wireless again
[09:45] <jgcampbell300> Is it possible to get virus on Ubuntu 10.04?
[09:45] <YankDownUnder> randy_, pradeep  => Squid can be used.
[09:45] <jason_wt> currently i have a user who can run root takes by typing in their password when prompted, but i like to prevent them from running root tasks unless i enter an admins account password
[09:45] <jason_wt> can this be done?
[09:45] <pradeep> jgcampbell300, nope
[09:45] <YankDownUnder> jgcampbell300, Um...is this a joke?
[09:45] <coz_> jgcampbell300,  it is possible but very unlikely
[09:45] <jgcampbell300> I did not think so, but I have been having some trouble that I can not explain:(
[09:46] <pradeep> RaNdY_ so wat do u suggest i do
[09:46] <randy_> YankDownUnder: thats a yes and no problem that only can solve a *part* of a larger issue.  the root solution is at the tc level
[09:46] <bullgard4> jgcampbell300: Theoretically yes. Practically: no.
[09:46] <YankDownUnder> IN THEORY, there are like, um, what, 13 viruses for unix/bsd/linux => however, they cannot survive in the "wild"
[09:46] <coz_> jgcampbell300,   linux is overseen by many groups that watch out for and report on possible threats... for the desktop linux it is unlikely to happen for at least 5 years
[09:46] <jgcampbell300> I have not changed anything but now avi files that played fine before do not work
[09:46] <coz_> jgcampbell300,  if you are really concerend you can go to the BlackHat  security conference site and read on what they have reported etc
[09:47] <pradeep> randy_ am a network admin in a teaching hospital so many peeps download alot of thing where draggin n taking up all the bandwith u get
[09:47] <randy_> pradeep: honestly, if you intent to run a server in a router capacity, i would suggest running something more intended for that, like vyatta or zeroshell (not to bash on ubuntu, but, server is not equal to router)
[09:47] <YankDownUnder> jgcampbell300, Simple steps to figure this out. 1.) From the last time you were able to view them, what has been installed/changed/upgraded? 2.) Are you doing exactly what you did before to play them? 3.) Are you using a particular program to view them, or are you viewing them in your web browser?
[09:48] <pradeep> randy_ i have a cisco router 1800 series
[09:48] <YankDownUnder> pradeep, Um...have you thought about setting quotas on the user accounts?
[09:49] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: As you've foreseen, the upgrade didn't work: http://pastebin.ca/1909945
[09:49] <randy_> YankDownUnder, pradeep, i don't think that solves the problem of bandwidth usage compared to downloaded/temporary/streaming media
[09:49] <tsdh> It seems I have to update the kernel package and reboot.  How do I do that?
[09:49] <jgcampbell300> I have been a lot of stuff trying to figgure this one out ... it seems random ... a file will play and then one day it will quit ... but not all the files quit playing at the same time ... seems to happen to a few files at a time ... i did notice that when i opend up the info on the playing file i was seeing mp3 insted of avi
[09:50] <ttmrichter> What's the trick to get GCC working on Ubuntu/Lucid 64-bit?  When I install build-essential I get a gcc that can't compile because the back-end assembler doesn't recognize the 64-bit registers.  Here's the output on a freshly-installed Ubuntu 10.4 system with build-essential installed: http://ideone.com/G8WUZ
[09:50] <jgcampbell300> is there a way to update all the codex packages ?
[09:50] <c_korn42> hello. I wanted to install lucid yesterday and tried the daily build (alterate amd64). after clicking "install ubuntu" I got the error: "uncompress error -- system halted" is this a known problem ? I could reproduce it on my notebook. I created a bootable usb stick from the iso using Ubuntu's creator
[09:50] <pradeep> YankDownUnder, randy_ so what do you suggest ? some one told me about mikrotik
[09:50] <jgcampbell300> maybe something happend to them
[09:50] <randy_> Naznaz: well, we've proven that you don't have a wireless issue, and your DNS seems to be fine, and IPv6 is out
[09:51] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Well, time to do a fresh install - unless you want to waste more time by upgrading to like 8.10, then to 9.04, then 9.10 and finally to 10.04...(I hate wasting time...yet another reason why I like doing fresh installations)
[09:51] <Naznaz> yes :(
[09:51] <randy_> pradeep: yeah, i've looked at mikrotik before, but its pricy for what you get.  its cheaper just to build a bigger ATX server with fancy (lit. big) gig ethernet ports on the cheap
[09:52] <MauL^> I've set up a public&private key for ssh authentication between 2 ubuntu, one is mustafa@server1 the other is root@server2 ... when I do ssh root@server2 , it still asks me for password .... why ??
[09:52] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: As I've said, I cannot do a fresh install because that's only a virtual server I don't have physical access to.
[09:52] <cipherz> MauL^, try running ssh -vv or something to see whats going on :)
[09:52] <YankDownUnder> jgcampbell300, Have you tried VLC to play them?
[09:52] <PureSine> hello I want to install an update to transmission but it seems it is available through ppa (https://edge.launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/nightly/+packages) is there a simple way to update like synaptic ?
[09:52] <minjoo> how to install gcc 3.x on ubuntu 10.04?
[09:52] <cipherz> MauL^, could easily be some permission problems on the key ;)
[09:52] <randy_> pradeep: there really is no difference between building something big except size and power.  the proc. in the microtik won't compare with what you get in a real mobo
[09:53] <Guest72611> hi. could somebody help me with external monitor config?
[09:53] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Dunno what to say mate...I have physical access to my servers...
[09:53] <jgcampbell300> yes ... I always use VLC
[09:53] <Guest72611> whatever I choose in config always get out of range
[09:53] <randy_> pradeep: in the end, you still end up with a 'how do i do it' 'what os do i use' type of problem
[09:53] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Good for you. ;-)
[09:53] <YankDownUnder> jgcampbell300, Well, then you're possibly having codec issues...
[09:53] <pradeep> randy_ what do you suggest  seems you are a network admin
[09:54] <jgcampbell300> is there a command or something to reset/reinstall all the codec ?
[09:54] <gogeta1> YankDownUnder: vlc is your frend
[09:54] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Be nice to be able to create a new VM and just copy stuff over to it...
[09:54] <YankDownUnder> Dunno if VLC is my frend, but it's certainly my media player of choice.
[09:54] <gogeta1> YankDownUnder: you can enable usb and copy stuff
[09:55] <gogeta1> YankDownUnder: no codec issues then
[09:55] <YankDownUnder> Enable USB and copy stuff? Um...I think something got lost in the translation...
[09:55] <Guest72611> PureSine: just add pa repository and install with synaptic
[09:55] <randy_> pradeep: well, if you want something that won't fry your brain after weeks of studying LARTC (Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control), let me suggest zeroshell, they have tutorials and can at least get you really close to something that would really work right without a lot of tweaking miserably in the command line, i.e. http://www.zeroshell.net/eng/qos/
[09:56] <mikeru> HELLO
[09:56] <Naznaz> I also wonder why apt is so insanely fast and my browsers aren't :/
[09:56] <PureSine> Guest72611, where should I add it in synaptic ?
[09:56] <randy_> Naznaz: yes, thats a good question.
[09:57] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, Have you made sure you turned off proxy auto-configuration in your web browser?
[09:57] <gogeta1> YankDownUnder: vms support usb so you can copy things using a usb device or you can make a samba share
[09:57] <gogeta1> or ftp etc
[09:57] <Guest72611> puresine: you can add with system | administration | software sources
[09:57] <Guest72611> PureSine: or in synaptic wait a second....
[09:57] <Naznaz> YankDownUnder, yes it's turned off
[09:58] <randy_> YankDownUnder, Naznaz good call.  let me also suggest, just to narrow things down, downloading a file on the command line using wget to see if there is some sort of gnome proxy thing borking things up.  I also suspect it might be network-manager
[09:58] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, If everything else works fast (or appears to) - have you tried more than one browser?
[09:58] <Guest72611> PureSine: Settings | repositories
[09:58] <Naznaz> YankDownUnder, I tried Opera and Firefox
[09:59] <Naznaz> randy_, I'll try wget
[09:59] <Guest72611> PureSine: Second tab: Another software ; click add.. button
[10:00] <Guest72611> PureSine: argh... but don't know what to put in. Moment...
[10:00] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[10:00] <Naznaz> randy_, when i do wget http://blahblah , resolving the address takes ages but download is fast
[10:00] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: That's exactly the procedure I did.
[10:00] <Naznaz> when i repeat this, resolving still takes ages
[10:00] <Guest72611> PureSine: ppa:transmissionbt/nightly put this
[10:01] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, I'll assume you've followed this TO THE "T" yeah?
[10:01] <pradeep> randy_ is that guide how to configure zeroshell besides wud ubuntu work
[10:01] <pradeep> ?
[10:01] <ttmrichter> What's the trick to get GCC working on Ubuntu/Lucid 64-bit?  When I install build-essential I get a gcc that can't compile because the back-end assembler doesn't recognize the 64-bit registers.  Here's the output on a freshly-installed Ubuntu 10.4 system with build-essential installed: http://ideone.com/G8WUZ
[10:01] <Guest72611> PureSine: or instead of clickuing run Terminal and type in: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:transmissionbt/nightly
[10:02] <yudi1> i am trying to backup a cd with drivers on it, I want to make a image file. I am using brasero and it defaults to a *.toc image file. is it alright to use a toc image. or should I choose iso
[10:02] <YankDownUnder> yudi1, ISO image is best suited.
[10:02] <PureSine> Guest72611, you mean I don't have to type full http address of the package ?
[10:03] <Guest72611> PureSine: no
[10:03] <Guest72611> PureSine: you have to add repo adress
[10:04] <Guest72611> PureSine: synaptic will get packages index and all the stuff it needs to instal package
[10:04] <randy_> pradeep: ah, that link was specifically for Zeroshell, just as an example of what *it* can do.  of course, Ubuntu *can* do it.  tc (as part of iproute2 package) is an integral part of the linux kernel in every distribution.  most people will never need/touch/learn the tc command and it is so rarely employed that very little has been written about it.  rarely do people need to do what you want to do.  regardless, it is incredibly p
[10:04] <PureSine> where should I add repo address ? in synaptic where you gave the address before ?
[10:04] <ttmrichter> Or is Ubuntu not intended to work with amd64 architectures?
[10:05] <yudi1> yank..., ok but why is it defaulting to .toc, I backed up a dvd and it used iso.
[10:05] <SwedeMike> ttmrichter: amd64 is definitely supported, been running it for years myself.
[10:05] <randy_> pradeep: unlike vyatta/Zeroshell, though, there isn't a fancy interface for configuring bandwidth management in ubuntu
[10:05] <ttmrichter> SwedeMike: can you explain http://ideone.com/G8WUZ?
[10:05] <PureSine> Guest72611,  where should I add repo address ? in synaptic where you gave the address before ?
[10:05] <YankDownUnder> yudi1, Not sure
[10:05] <ttmrichter> GCC's back-end is choking on the extended amd64 registers.
[10:05] <SwedeMike> ttmrichter: nope, let me try that on my machine.
[10:06] <Guest72611> PureSine: yes. Synaptic | Settings | repositories in that window select second tab (another software), press add.. buton at the bottom and put this ppa:transmissionbt/nightly. Done
[10:06] <yudi1> yank, no prob, using iso. will stick to what I know. thanks
[10:06] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Well, I've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades, section "Upgrade from 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS", subsection "Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)".
[10:06] <uLinux> Does somebody know long how it takes to erase an harddrive using DBAN's quick erase method? like 600GB
[10:06] <SwedeMike> ttmrichter: that compiles just fine on my 10.04 amd64 machine.
[10:06] <randy_> pradeep: here's a link to some (rather simple) scripts available in the repositories for bandwidth shaping: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/use-bandwidth-shapers-wondershaper-or-trickle-to-limit-internet-connection-speed.html
[10:06] <PureSine> Guest72611,   thanks I try that :)
[10:06] <ttmrichter> SwedeMike: So how would I go about diagnosing this?  I've reinstalled everything I could find related to development and get the same problem.
[10:07] <quietone> KE1HA, thx. I have been using that and I can't get any of the options to work
[10:07] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Have you ever been to this server - where the VM lives?
[10:07] <pradeep> randy_ been of great help... are you network admin
[10:07] <piszczekd> Co tu mam pisac ?
[10:07] <SwedeMike> ttmrichter: sorry, I don't know how to debug that.
[10:07] <stu_> hm
[10:07] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Nope.  I don't even know where that is.
[10:07] <piszczekd> Dawo
[10:07] <strange> my apt-get is stuck because some stuff i tried to install has unmet dependencies it keeps telling me to run apt-get -f install to fix it
[10:07] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <FloodBot4> piszczekd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:08] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <strange> but that puts me in a loop
[10:08] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Um...and you're trying to do an upgrade on this machine?
[10:08] <strange> anyone have any suggestions?
[10:08] <randy_> pradeep: i ran a few ISP's in my day in the hot sun surrounded by commercial internet satellites funded with community cash... running on a budget, paying out the ** for bandwidth, baking in the hot hot hot hot sun... (enough about that ;))
[10:08] <yudi1> when ever I join a channel or start pidgin I get quite a few tab pop up, like from nickserv, frigg, etc, how to suppress them
[10:09] <jasonwryan> strange: have you run it with the force flag? What happened?
[10:09] <ttmrichter> Fuck Ubuntu.
[10:09] <YankDownUnder> yudi1, Um...have you tried #pidgin ?
[10:09] <pradeep> randy_ i must say you have paid your dues lol
[10:09] <jasonwryan> strange: sorry, just saw the next line...
[10:09] <pradeep> randy_ thanks
[10:09] <randy_> Naznaz: yeah, it still feels like a wierd DNS thing or a TCP windowing issue, or even the MTU thing mentioned earlier
[10:09] <randy_> pradeep: no problem ;)
[10:10] <Naznaz> randy_, i tried setting mtu to 1500 but no change
[10:10] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Seems so.  But I do have good backups of my data, so I could perform a fresh install and later copy my data back.
[10:10] <jgcampbell300> wow I think something has eaten some of my avi files
[10:10] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: The provider has a reinstall option on the web frontend.
[10:10] <yudi1> yank...,will try
[10:10] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Mate, I'm used to thinking in another perspective - using linux servers to run MS in VM's - not the other way around...
[10:10] <uLinux> Has anyone used dban?
[10:11] <YankDownUnder> uLinux, As an antiperspirant?
[10:11] <uLinux> lol
[10:11] <strange> jasonwryan, http://pastebin.com/7QteZ68t
[10:12] <Guest72611> sobeody help me with monitor issue?
[10:12] <strange> i need a way to remove those packages i think so it doesnt want to isntall them anymore
[10:12] <YankDownUnder> uLinux, I'd just assume to format the drive a heap of times with different FS's, then zero out the disk
[10:12] <strange>   libglew1.5-dev: Depends: libgl1-mesa-dev or
[10:12] <strange>                            libgl-dev
[10:12] <strange>   libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libgl1-mesa-dev or
[10:12] <strange>                              libgl-dev
[10:12] <FloodBot4> strange: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:12] <strange> those
[10:13] <YankDownUnder> strange, apt-get autoremove && apt-get -f install && apt-get update => eh?
[10:13] <strange> YankDownUnder, trying.
[10:13] <randy_> Naznaz: did you do this to disable IPv6? http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/speed-up-your-internet-connection-in-ubuntu-linux/
[10:14] <strange> YankDownUnder: nope that just does the same bitches about dependencies
[10:14] <aurquiel> hi
[10:14] <jasonwryan> strange: manually remove (or move) libGL.so and retry?
[10:14] <strange> http://pastebin.com/hSgfKKnD
[10:14] <strange> jasonwryan, can you tell me how to manually do that or link me ?
[10:15] <jasonwryan> strange: sudo mv /usr/lib/libGL.so{,bak}
[10:15] <Naznaz> randy_, no i just disabled it in the interface options, trying your link now, thx
[10:15] <strange> jasonwryan, same problem still.
[10:16] <randy_> Naznaz: no wait, this one http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html that link was too old
[10:16] <YankDownUnder> strange, Um...have you tried to manually select the libmesa stuff and remove them?
[10:17] <strange> YankDownUnder, i've tried "apt-get remove lib-mesa(or whatever its called)
[10:17] <strange> and purge i've tried as well
[10:17] <Naznaz> randy_, okay, thanks
[10:17] <YankDownUnder> strange, This is strange, strange. HOWEVER, there are answers...
[10:18] <strange> for some reason it looks like its in a queue of some sorts becuase if i want to run an aptitude thing unrelated to those it still wants those first, where is this queue stored
[10:18] <strange> answers i like :)
[10:18] <jasonwryan> strange: flush the dpkg cache?
[10:19] <strange> jasonwryan, how?
[10:19] <Naznaz> if the /etc/modprobe.d/aliases file does not exist, does simply creating it suffice?
[10:19] <randy_> YankDownUnder: strange whenever i see references to libmesa a chill races down my spine from days of old ... when graphics drivers were unreliable and skinny elephants occasionally trampled all over my keyboard...
[10:20] <strange> nvidia drivers are decent these days but i installed something to disrupt the balance :x
[10:20] <YankDownUnder> randy_, Those were the days when I did mostly everything in the console - or just ran OLVWM and didn't worry about graphic
[10:20] <jasonwryan> strange: apt-get clear
[10:20] <strange> jasonwryan, that command doesnt exist
[10:20] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, I think you can get away with that.
[10:21] <jasonwryan> strange: whoops: that was helpful...
[10:21] <YankDownUnder> apt-get purge
[10:21] <randy_> Naznaz: ok ok ok, here we go! guaranteed for 10.04: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[10:21] <strange> apt-get purge i'ved tried same error
[10:21] <Quadrescence> Hello everyone I am having problems with amd64's gcc -----> http://codepad.org/H9FocBgN
[10:22] <YankDownUnder> strange, apt-get autoclean && apt-get check && apt-get update => ??
[10:22] <Naznaz> thanks! :)
[10:22] <strange> YankDownUnder, including => ?
[10:22] <YankDownUnder> strange, Don't be strange! Nah! Hehehehhee
[10:22] <Quadrescence> Does anyone know a solution? I am just beginning Coding in C,
[10:22] <strange> YankDownUnder, same error.
[10:23] <YankDownUnder> Quadrescence, Yes - the solution is use B
[10:23] <Quadrescence> YankDownUnder: Excuse me?
[10:23] <YankDownUnder> strange, Have you, just for giggles and grins, rebooted this machine?
[10:23] <strange> nope but lets do :)
[10:23] <Naznaz> yey I think you got it right! Disabling ipv6 in ff speeds things up A LOT, just trying to disable it in ubuntu and rebooting, thanks, brb
[10:23] <strange> http://pastebin.com/vdiJViXb
[10:23] <YankDownUnder> Quadrescence, You didn't finish the question, so I answered what you already typed.
[10:23] <strange> there you can see my wonderful failures
[10:24] <YankDownUnder> strange, They're not YOUR failures, mate...blame them on someone else.
[10:24] <strange> YankDownUnder, after reboot same problems
[10:24] <strange> back to the drawingboard :)
[10:25] <Quadrescence> YankDownUnder: The question should be quite obvious.
[10:25] <Quadrescence> "How do I fix my above problem?"
[10:25] <YankDownUnder> Quadrescence, Ah. Right. Clear as mud.
[10:26] <YankDownUnder> strange, Mate, what happens if you try to install something that you don't already have - using apt-get install - and then running apt-get update after that?
[10:26] <Quadrescence> YankDownUnder: Are you trolling? I pasted a C program, gcc output, my architecture, the program compiled, the command I did
[10:27] <YankDownUnder> Quadrescence, Mate, you're right. I must be trolling, and I must have the answer to your question because obviously each and every one of us in here is running 64bit bloody amd Ubuntu and we're all conspiring against you by not answering the bloody question.Phew.
[10:27] <Quadrescence> YankDownUnder: You know, if you do not have an answer, it would be better if you just remained quiet and not filled the channel with noise.
[10:27] <strange> YankDownUnder, sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa-dev_7.6.0-1ubuntu4_i386.deb
[10:27] <strange> i think that fixed it
[10:27] <doktoreas> hello everybody, anyone knows if is possible to use fbi inside an ssh session
[10:28] <YankDownUnder> Quadrescence, You're so right.
[10:28] <randy_> Quadrescence: this is a support channel for the Ubuntu Distribution of Linux/GNU Debian.  Most of us are not programmers and I suspect you may have better luck in either #gcc or ##C
[10:28] <strange> YES! it works, thanks for thinking with me guys
[10:28] <YankDownUnder> strange, Coolbeans. I'l quit flooding the freaking channel.
[10:28] <Quadrescence> randy_: This is on Ubuntu.
[10:28] <jasonwryan> strange: nice one!
[10:28] <Quadrescence> This is only a problem with Ubuntu.
[10:28] <Quadrescence> randy_: So the problem is on the Ubuntu side.
[10:28]  * YankDownUnder now knows why he doesn't employ or befriend programmers - or wanna-be programmers
[10:30] <Quadrescence> YankDownUnder: What?
[10:30] <linux_probe> woo, big channel
[10:30] <Naznaz> hi I'm back
[10:30] <Naznaz> it still doesn't work
[10:30] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, Workin?
[10:30] <Naznaz> no
[10:30] <Naznaz> ff is fast
[10:30] <randy_> Naznaz: have you tried taht ipv6 test command? how is it going?
[10:30] <Naznaz> as i disabled ipv6 seperately
[10:30] <Naznaz> it outputs 1, so it should be disabled
[10:31] <yessir_turan> Quadrescence: There seems to be some problem with your assembler..
[10:31] <yessir_turan> Try this:
[10:31] <randy_> Naznaz: excellent!
[10:31] <yessir_turan> gcc -S hello.c
[10:31] <Naznaz> no
[10:31] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, Have you tried, in gconf-editor: /system/http_proxy => check the settings (or delete them)
[10:31] <yessir_turan> and then copy the contents of hello.s into a pastebin and paste the link
[10:32] <Naznaz> YankDownUnder, thanks I'll try
[10:33] <metalgeek> Hi, Have been trying to network two ubuntu pcs for two days now and getting nowhere, Am nub so probably something simple that i don't know but i'm pulling my hair out, Please Help!
[10:33] <Quadrescence> yessir_turan: http://codepad.org/JENI1HIY
[10:33] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, Can you ping the one machine from the other?
[10:34] <Quadrescence> yessir_turan: There seems to be nothing unexpected in the output except that it's using 64-bit registers and as is having a hissy fit over them.
[10:34] <lemonade_> screen mess at booting
[10:34] <lemonade_> what to do?
[10:34] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, Graphics are mucked up when you're booting?
[10:35] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, yeah,sometimes
[10:35] <Naznaz> everything but ff (and apt) is still slowly resolving addresses
[10:35] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, But it does finally boot up nicely to the desktop, ya?
[10:36] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, no,I have to reboot
[10:36] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, Have you check to make sure you've got the correct drivers for your graphics card?
[10:36] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, No,
[10:36] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, Give that a shot firstly mate
[10:37] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, there not connected
[10:37] <yessir_turan> Quadrescence: Now try as test.s
[10:37] <yessir_turan> and post the output..
[10:37] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, I think so,I get the correct 1280X800 ,and 3d desktop
[10:37] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, Um...right...then I've misinterpreted your situation
[10:37] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, am trying to create a wireless adhoc network between netbook and desktop
[10:38] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, I cant even get the wireless up
[10:38] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, Intel card?
[10:38] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, ATI
[10:38] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, You might look through the settings in Network Manager to be sure
[10:38] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[10:38] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, you can edit the /etc/default/grub and check the framebuffer settings
[10:39] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, Ive tried everything that my limited experiece allows, :)
[10:39] <newbie> Ciao c'è qualcuno che parla italiano?
[10:39] <MaRk-I> !it | newbie
[10:40] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, It makes no sense to me. I can at least get my netbook to connect to my windows wireless network but then i can't ping the other machines either
[10:40] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, what's the correct setting?
[10:40] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=74869037
[10:40] <newbie> grazie vado =)
[10:40] <newbie> hi
[10:41] <Naznaz> yey
[10:41] <olav_> Is there anyone thats know some stuff about checking for viruses on Windows via a Live-CD? Trying to check another friends computer for viruses, but ClamTK seems to end up not responding after a while.
[10:41] <Naznaz> randy_, I disabled ipv6 in grub with http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-910.html and now my opera is fast, too =)
[10:41] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, You can check by running "sudo apt-get hwinfo" => then run "sudo hwinfo --framebuffer" => check the settings available to your graphics card, then add them as such "VGA=0x0347" or whatever...
[10:42] <Naznaz> now I only need to get grub-shell to compile ...
[10:42] <YankDownUnder> olav_, Use a terminal, and do: clamscan --remove --recursive --quiet
[10:43] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, thank you first,I'm going to have a try
[10:43] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, Coolbeans.
[10:44] <Naznaz> randy_, YankDownUnder (and everyone I forgot) thanks for your help :)
 So that is an automated non-interactive commando for Clam that checks all disks if a am correct? If thats the case great :) Does it take care of any viruses as well or is it some kind of option to this after the process is done?
[10:46] <olav_> YankDownUnder, booting up to try now. is it best to just do this without logging on do the graphical user interface?
[10:46] <ShapeShifter499> hi again
[10:48] <ShapeShifter499> I keep getting the "ugly" thumbnails of exe's instead of the better(imo) wine icon and little exe app icon in the corner
[10:48] <YankDownUnder> olav_, I've used the GUI, but run clamscan or f-prot in a terminal - so that I'm not draining resource on yet another GUI. Faster, too.
[10:49] <YankDownUnder> olav_, Sorry - didn't see the prev post - after you've mounted the drives (which are in /media) you run that command from the /media dir as root, and yes, it cleans up all the crap recursively and automagically with only a report at the end.
[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> the exe thumbnail that looks like a windows "window" with the exe's native icon inside it, is what I've got now, I want the other one that is the wine icon with the exe's native icon in the corner, how do I do/get that?
[10:51] <olav_> YankDownUnder, Great, trying out now. Thanks a lot!
[10:51] <YankDownUnder> olav_, Just fyi mate, I generally use f-prot & clamav - run one then the other - just in case. AND make sure you update them prior to the scan mate
[10:54] <Amway> can we change ubuntu 10.04 startu logo ?
[10:54] <ShapeShifter499> brb
[10:55] <Amway> 9.10 startu logo was good, 10.04 got like a dos based game logo lol :D
[10:55] <om26er> Amway, you must be using the proprietary driver
[10:55] <YankDownUnder> Amway, You can look through the package manager and find more plymouth themes to boot to.
[10:56] <olav_> YankDownUnder, will do :)
[10:56] <Amway> proprietary driver ? how to check ?
[10:57]  * YankDownUnder thinks that you don't buy it from Amway firstly
[10:57] <om26er> Amway, did you install an drivers?
[10:57] <stetho> If I do an apt-get update or install I get a connection time out to archive.canonical.com. How can I tell if this server is actually down or if there's something else going on?
[10:57] <YankDownUnder> stetho, You can ping the server to check
[10:58] <Amway> drivers for what ?
[10:58] <schnux> stetho: behind proxy?
[10:58] <Amway> i just upgraded 9.10 to 10.04
[10:59] <stetho> Nope, not behind proxy and it responds to ping.
[10:59] <YankDownUnder> stetho, Could be traffic at this time of night/day...I get it sometimes when it's peaked in the US
[11:00] <schnux> stetho: telnet archive.canonical.com 80  ?
[11:00] <YankDownUnder> I need coffee.
[11:01] <stetho> Interesting - telnet returns a 301. I'm being redirected somewhere...
[11:03] <viric> Hello people.
[11:03] <olav_> YankDownUnder, could I just ask one final question before hitting enter? If any files are marked as infected, can it result in loss of personal data? It is not my computer and I believe the one who owns the computer have some stuff that will be missed. The most important are images though. I am not used to viruses and such :p
[11:03] <viric> Does anybody know, why ubuntu repository has the nvidia driver version 195.34, while the nvidia website has 295.35? Why that big difference in numbers?
[11:04] <kisuke> viric: afaik, it has to do with there being more revisions made for win thatn for *nix
[11:04] <metalgeek> ther day i blacklisted something on advice from a wireless webpage about setting up a ralink  rt2870. How can i undo this, i blacklisted 3 different drivers i think but it made no difference so i would like to undo to try again
[11:04] <ahaios> hello...does anyone know what is the command to saw the type of the router im connected on wireless?
[11:05] <viric> kisuke: I talk about the linux drivers specifically
[11:05] <jgcampbell300> well im pretty sure i just erased my grub loader
[11:05] <viric> kisuke: I need an ubuntu user to install 'the latest nvidia drivers', and what he can choose looks far from the latest
[11:06] <kisuke> did you go t the nivida site? and what do you need them for?
[11:06] <mrvn_> Is there a way for upstart jobs to say "stop be BEFORE stopping foo"?
[11:07] <jgcampbell300> could someone tell me how to reinstall grub with out reinstalling ubuntu ?
[11:07] <metalgeek> How do i un blacklist drivers?
[11:07] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, are you sure you need to reinstall it
[11:08] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, would updating it do
[11:08] <kisuke> ok how wouldi install a .DSC?
[11:08] <jgcampbell300> dont know really ... i was using tweak ubuntu or something like that and i erased something bad lol
[11:09] <jgcampbell300> guess i could try updating if i could get to a promp
[11:09] <jgcampbell300> prompt
[11:09] <kisuke> !dsc
[11:09] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, Do you not get terminal option at grub
[11:09] <kisuke> !source
[11:10] <jgcampbell300> nope ... i boot and get flashing thing at top left like it is stuck .. right after hardware check
[11:10] <jgcampbell300> hmm wonder if ssh has loaded
[11:10] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, use live cd to boot into vdesktop to get a terminal to update grub
[11:11] <MegaHerz> Hi all. My keyboard hangs every 2 seconds. Any ideas?
[11:11] <karma_police> i just reinstalled 10.04 and it boots to a grubrescue promt.... its not loading grub apparently
[11:11] <jgcampbell300> kk
[11:11] <ShapeShifter499> back
[11:11] <metalgeek> Can anyone help me with undoing blacklist
[11:11] <ShapeShifter499> and I fixed that exe thumbnail problem
[11:12] <jgcampbell300> will a ubuntu server 10.04 disk work i dont think i have any desk top disks here
[11:12] <karma_police> would a corupt install cause a "grubrescue" command prompt upon initial reboot?
[11:12] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, i believe so but am fairly new myself lol
[11:13] <jgcampbell300> kk brb
[11:13] <metalgeek> I have blacklisted 3 drivers that i want to un blacklist, how  to?
[11:14] <karma_police> would a corupt install cause a "grubrescue" command prompt upon initial reboot?
[11:15] <viric> kisuke: I went to the nvidia site, yes, to check the version.
[11:16] <metalgeek> Have asked same question 4 ties to no answer, am i doing something wrong (am newbie so don't understand)
[11:16] <viric> kisuke: I have to deploy some binaries in that system, and it will be easier for me if I could put my nvidia libGL binaries. But that requires that user to have the proper module in the kernel
[11:17] <jgcampbell300> wow its takeing forever to boot
[11:17] <kisuke> viric: why not just use the binarys off the nvida site?
[11:17] <jgcampbell300> i wonder witch is faster a usb hard drive or a internal sata
[11:17] <metalgeek> Hello?
[11:17] <ddavids> any idea what this means in wine? "Fialed FsUsbExService, No existing FsUsbExDevice". I get that evertime i start any program in wine...
[11:18] <iceroot> ddavids: #winehq is a better place for that i guess
[11:18] <jgcampbell300> sounds like it is looking for a usb drive that isnt there
[11:18] <jgcampbell300> ok im booted up
[11:18] <ddavids> iceroot: thanks
[11:19] <viric> kisuke: ubuntu is supposed to provide 'package management' :)
[11:19] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, ok so now open terminal and: sudo update-grub
[11:19] <jgcampbell300> k
[11:19] <kisuke> viric: it does, but it all tends to be older packages, because they have been proven stable.
[11:20] <viric> that was for debian. Also for ubuntu?
[11:20] <jgcampbell300> umm poop ... error cannont find device for /
[11:20] <viric> it has a package named "nvidia-current", that shows 195.34
[11:21] <hrhrhr_> Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS <--
[11:21] <hrhrhr_> what's the LTS stand for
[11:21] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, That dosnt sound good, but unfortunatly its as far as i know,
[11:21] <metalgeek> hrhrhr_, long term service
[11:22] <metalgeek> Can someone help mewith blacklist please
[11:22] <Mud> hrhrhr_ : 8.04 lts ftw :)
[11:23] <jgcampbell300> what did you blacklist
[11:23] <SwedeMike> metalgeek hrhrhr_ : long term support
[11:23] <hrhrhr_> cheers
[11:24] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, 3 drivers that were apparantly why my wireless dongle was not working
[11:24] <metalgeek> rt2870 driversto do with ralink
[11:25] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, i think that they were called something lik rt28000usb of something
[11:25] <metalgeek> IdleOne, Hello, i'm sorry to bother you but you have been really helpfull in the past, could you spare a minute?
[11:25] <jgcampbell300> whitelist
[11:26] <jgcampbell300> from what i read on google
[11:26] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, Something you can try is to connect the machine to ethernet, and do System => Administration => Hardware Drivers => check to see if any drivers for the dongle are found (of course, you have to have the dongle IN at the time)
[11:27] <Andreas05> paidia eimai arxarios sto ubuntu kai exw provlima. mporei na voithisei kaneis?
[11:27] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, thanks, is there a way to see a list of my blacklists
[11:27] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, don't have ethernet
[11:27] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[11:28] <Andreas05> can someone help guys? ubuntu newbie here
[11:29] <om26er> !ask | Andreas05
[11:29] <jgcampbell300> not sure but i would think man whitelist would show you manual
[11:29] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, opened the file but can't see the drivers that i am looking for, dose this mean that they are not blacklisted at all?
[11:29] <jgcampbell300> hmm maybe the info you looking for is under /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[11:30] <jgcampbell300> im not the greatest with wifi tho but looks like a good place to look
[11:31] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, How's about this - when you boot with the liveCD, does the wireless work?
[11:31] <phani1> Hi... I am running lucid and need help in configuring Ec1262 reliance data card... any help please....
[11:32] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, hold the phone, i'll try, back in a min
[11:33] <hrhrhr_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[11:33] <ravma> hi mini tube is not working
[11:33] <hrhrhr_> which of those do i use for xeon (intel 64bit)
[11:34] <jpds> hrhrhr_: A server?
[11:34] <hrhrhr_> yeh
[11:34] <jpds> hrhrhr_: http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.4/ubuntu-8.04.4-server-amd64.iso
[11:34] <hrhrhr_> it lists it as 'amd64'
[11:34] <hrhrhr_> we run intel
[11:34] <jpds> hrhrhr_: "Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2)."
[11:34] <hrhrhr_> perhaps amd64 is not the most appropriate name?
[11:35] <jpds> hrhrhr_: No, but it's the historical one.
[11:35] <hrhrhr_> ok cheers
[11:35] <ravma> hello iam running ubuntu netmix  latest version of mini tube is not working insted it skiping
[11:35] <SwedeMike> hrhrhr_: it's the name used.
[11:36] <SwedeMike> hrhrhr_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64#AMD64
[11:36] <monkey_dust> ravma, you're not the person whose minitube won't work - mine won't either, i did not try again to make it work
[11:36] <hrhrhr_> presumably it's now deprecated in 10*
[11:36] <monkey_dust> *not the first person
[11:37] <ravma> but i like mini tube
[11:37] <ravma> it streems well than in browser
[11:38] <jpds> hrhrhr_: 10.04? No.
[11:38] <hrhrhr_> it's still called amdblah?
[11:38] <hrhrhr_> lol
[11:38] <jpds> hrhrhr_: Yes.
[11:38] <SwedeMike> hrhrhr_: yes, because that's the correct name.
[11:38] <hrhrhr_> SwedeMike
[11:38] <YankDownUnder> They wanted to rename it to "Carrot64" but it didn't take off very well.
[11:39] <hrhrhr_> how is 'amd' the correct name for a distribution which applies to architecture extending beyond amd?
[11:39] <wgrant> hrhrhr_: AMD invented the architecture.
[11:39] <SwedeMike> hrhrhr_: do you thin kit's weird that amd emulated i386? so it's weird that it's called i386 ?
[11:39] <ravma> any one can make my minitube running
[11:39] <hrhrhr_> citation? :)
[11:39] <hrhrhr_> anyway
[11:39] <hrhrhr_> who cares
[11:39] <SwedeMike> 12:36 < SwedeMike> hrhrhr_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64#AMD64
[11:39] <red2kic> hrhrhr_ does.
[11:39] <hrhrhr_> is there a changelog for 8.04.04
[11:39] <Andreas05> I have a problem booting Ubuntu from Hard disk (old video drivers). Please Help?
[11:40] <jpds> hrhrhr_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/8.04.4
[11:40] <SwedeMike> it seems hrhrhr_ is not very grateful for the help he's getting.
[11:41] <aseoista> ciao
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> SwedeMike: my apologies
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> you are all right
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> The original specification was created by AMD, and has been implemented by AMD, Intel, VIA, and others.
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> now it makes perfect sense
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> i am very grateful to all :)
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> cheers jpds
[11:42] <wgrant> hrhrhr_: Other distributions and operating systems may use other names. Partly because Debian adopted the architecture quite early.
[11:42] <wgrant> hrhrhr_: And we inherited the name from Debian.
[11:42] <hrhrhr_> cool
[11:43] <YankDownUnder> I wonder, however, if we argue the point about naming conventions, if somehow it will all change by the end of the week? (This conversation has been going on for more than 18 years, BTW)
[11:43] <Andreas05> Newbie Help please :D I have a problem booting Ubuntu from Hard disk (old video drivers). I probably need to edit grub. Any Help?
[11:43] <SwedeMike> !details | Andreas05
[11:45] <Andreas05> Running ubuntu 10.04. Succesfully boot from usb using live i915.modeset=1  / cant boot from hard drive, I get blank screen
[11:45] <wgrant> Andreas05: That's interesting. i915.modeset=1 should be the default in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[11:46] <SwedeMike> Andreas05: have you tried invoking grub2 menu on boot?
[11:46] <YankDownUnder> wgrant, Been through this already... Andreas05 have you added this line in your /etc/default/grub config?
[11:46] <Andreas05> yes I did, but update-grub does not work
[11:47] <Andreas05> I get "error cannot find a device for"  is dev mounted"
[11:47] <jgcampbell300> lol i have same problem as Andreas05
[11:48] <Andreas05> I used this guide http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[11:49] <Andreas05> swedemike: How can invoke grub2 menu?
[11:49] <schnux> andreas: looks like in grub is just the wrong device generated ?
[11:49] <Andreas05> shnux: please explain a bit. I'm a complete newb
[11:50] <Andreas05> where is grub supposed to be? different partition?
[11:51] <YankDownUnder> Andreas05, Um...just reading through the page - did you also read through the comments that were left?
[11:52] <monkey_dust> !grub| Andreas05
[11:53] <schnux> andreas: please provide complete error message like "error cannot find a device fo
[11:53] <Andreas05> I should also tell that it's not a dual boot. I only have ubuntu installed
[11:53] <schnux> after doing grub-update
[11:53] <Kangarooo> whats this? used sudo apt-get update and on finish i got W: Failed to fetch http://lv.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[11:53] <Kangarooo> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:54] <SwedeMike> Kangarooo: "Hash Sum mismatch" means the file didn't checksum correctly.
[11:54] <schnux> kangaroo: just wait and try again
[11:54] <Andreas05> "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)"
[11:55] <Kangarooo> schnux: how this was created? server still dl updates?
[11:55] <Andreas05> that's what I get after running the command
[11:55] <schnux> andreas: from which environment are you doing update-grub ?
[11:55] <Andreas05> ubuntu live from usb
[11:56] <schnux> kangaroo: youre using lv - looks like temporary problem. did you wait some time and tried again?
[11:56] <mono_> the NSA knows it all!!!!!!! Google: ' remote neural monitoring'
[11:56] <astropirate> I was told that i could access a process's memory using the /prc/[PIC]/mem interface but when i open it in a text editor it's empty. and when i open it with using open() and read() it gives me the following errno error "No such process". Am i missing something here?
[11:56] <computer_> what packages do i need to install so pcsx emulator will run?
[11:56] <jgcampbell300> hmm maybe look under /media/ "big long number" /usr/sbin/grub-prob
[11:56] <YankDownUnder> Andreas05, Have you tried to chroot and update grub again?
[11:57] <Kangarooo> schnux: i got this error right now.. but i just changed to main ubuntu server and got 3 updates. so while this problem in lv server exist i cant get updates.
[11:57] <Andreas05> yank: how do I do that? lol
[11:57] <MauL^> I am trying to establish an sshfs auto mount between 2 ubuntus.. somehow, I see the directory mounted but I cannot dir in
[11:57] <schnux> andreas: in chroot: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
[11:57] <P-Nuts> Which of mii-tool and ethtool is telling the truth here?  One says "negotiated 1000baseT-HD"; the other "Speed: 1000Mb/s", "Duplex: Full".  Obviously, I'd rather have it full-duplex if possible.  I've tried a couple of different cables.  Full command output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470211/
[11:58] <YankDownUnder> Andreas05, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[11:58] <schnux> andreas: sry, that you'll do _before_ chroot
[11:58] <Andreas05> schun what is chroot?
[11:58] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: I'd trust ethtool.
[11:59] <P-Nuts> SwedeMike: by the way, ethtool wasn't installed by default, whereas mii-tool was, why is that?
[11:59] <schnux> andreas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
[11:59] <YankDownUnder> P-Nuts, ethtool starts with "E" therefore more trustworthy. ;)
[12:00] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: I have no idea, but I do know that 1000BASE-HD is very rare, never seen it in real life.
[12:00] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/mii-tool-ethtool-different-output-better-option-than-either-500025/ says ethtool superseeds miitool
[12:01] <Andreas05> shnux what is the line I should type to do what you say?
[12:01] <schnux> andreas: mkdir /mnt/chroot; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev; mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc; chroot /mnt/chroot /bin/bash; update-grub ...
[12:02] <schnux> andreas: sry mistakes, again:
[12:02] <schnux> andreas: mkdir /mnt/chroot; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/chroot/dev; mount -t proc /proc /mnt/chroot/proc; chroot /mnt/chroot /bin/bash; update-grub ...
[12:02] <P-Nuts> SwedeMike: on another computer on the same switch (though it's running Debian Squeeze, not Ubuntu), both ethtool and mii-tool claim full-duplex
[12:03] <Andreas05> the semicolon mean new lines of commandes, right?
[12:03] <schnux> andreas: customize update-grub how you wanted to use it
[12:03] <schnux> yes
[12:03] <schnux> andreas: semicolons automatically seperate each commandos
[12:03] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: same hardware?
[12:04] <Andreas05> tried first line. cannot create directory...permission denied
[12:04] <dury> hi there channel :)
[12:05] <schnux> andreas: sudo
[12:05] <P-Nuts> SwedeMike: no, not even the same architecture
[12:05] <P-Nuts> but the same version of mii-tool apparently
[12:05] <schnux> andreas: sudo bevore every command except chroot
[12:05] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: did you even read the article I pasted to you?
[12:05] <smallfoot-> o
[12:06] <schnux> andreas: or you'll become root for simplicity
[12:06] <smallfoot-> where can i request new language ditionaries to be added to ubuntu?
[12:06] <dury> K3b doesn't recognise my devices burner...I would appreciate it if someone can drive to setup it properly, please
[12:06] <smallfoot-> ubuntu has no Elvish dictionaries
[12:06] <dury> sorry can drive me to setup it up correctly
[12:07] <P-Nuts> SwedeMike: yes, so you think it's just that mii-tool doesn't query certain hardware correctly, and ethtool is more likely to cope?
[12:07] <SwedeMike> dury: are you planning to mention what kind of burner you have?
[12:07] <YankDownUnder> smallfoot-, Yes, there are Elvish dictionaries.
[12:07] <linux36> the ubuntu in the VM can't PING network
[12:07] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: as it states, they seem to work better with different hardware, none of them are perfect and works with everything.
[12:07] <linux36> who can slove it
[12:07] <smallfoot-> YankDownUnder, where?
[12:07] <dury> SwedeMike: what you mean
[12:08] <b43confused> hi
[12:08] <Andreas05> snhux: second line error mount: mount point /mnt/chroot/dev doesnot exist
[12:08] <schnux> linux36: ifconfig;lsmod;lspci;dmesg
[12:08] <YankDownUnder> smallfoot-, They take so long to research, test, verify and compile, that by the time the one's for 10.04 are ready, we'll be using 12.10
[12:08] <b43confused> can someone help me figure out how to set up my broadcom chip
[12:08] <b43confused> my wireless
[12:08] <SwedeMike> dury: do you expect anyone to be able to help you without even knowing what hardware you're using?
[12:08] <schnux> andreas: bevore mount points can be mounted, the directory must exist (mkdir)
[12:09] <smallfoot-> YankDownUnder, i was thinking of dictionaries for myspell or ispell that can be used for like Firefox, Office, etc
[12:09] <dury> SwedeMike: until now k3b was right.... but I don't know how did disconfigured it
[12:09] <YankDownUnder> b43confused, You should be able to - while connected via ethernet - check the Hardware Drivers - and the Broadcom drivers will be found and activated.
[12:09] <b43confused> i can't connect to the ethernet
[12:09] <b43confused> i only have wireless on my computer
[12:09] <b43confused> can i download
[12:09] <b43confused> something on my windows partition
[12:09] <b43confused> put it on a usb
[12:09] <b43confused> and use it on my 10.04
[12:10] <b43confused> ubuntu?
[12:10] <linux36> yes
[12:10] <ikonia> b43confused: what do you want to download?
[12:10] <b43confused> i want my broadcom wireless card (b43) to work on my linux ubuntu 10 partition
[12:10] <mrpinky> hi guys :D does anybody know the ALSA device name for the mixer (like selecting "mixer" as the input device on windows), or any way to find out?
[12:10] <b43confused> but i can't use ethernet
[12:10] <linux36> 8.10
[12:10] <b43confused> i have no access
[12:11] <ikonia> b43confused: ok, that's understandable, and should work
[12:11] <schnux> mrpinky: $ alsamixer ?  /dev/mixer ?
[12:11] <b43confused> ikonia:  what do i download?
[12:11] <b43confused> ikonia:  i doewnloaded b43-cutter
[12:12] <ikonia> b43confused: try not to press enter for every few words, type what you want to say, then press enter
[12:12] <b43confused> ikonia: but it is not making sense to me  (i am NOT a good sysadmin)
[12:12] <premchand> Hi... Can anyone help me on reliance EC1262 on lucid please.... i am unable to configure it
[12:12] <krishna> Can anyone help me
[12:12] <ikonia> !Broadcom
[12:12] <Wolphie> krishna, what's the problem?
[12:12] <ikonia> b43confused: checkout that link
[12:12] <monkey_dust> !ask| krishna
[12:13] <dury> SwedeMike: how do I know which burner I have... what's the command to type in terminal or maybe there is another way to know it
[12:13] <novato_br> how can I my video work? I can't access gui and firefox to access internet, I'm running ubuntu 10.04 under shell
[12:13] <krishna> Actually I want to change my default disply manager
[12:13] <b43confused> thanks for the help on the link but i can't run apt-get or wget or anything like this because i have no ethernet.  i have to install all files from a USB
[12:13] <ikonia> b43confused: download the packages manually, then install them
[12:13] <schnux> novato:br: what have you done that it does not work? anymore?
[12:14] <schnux> novato: installed drivers?
[12:14] <ikonia> b43confused: is there a reason you can't use the ethernet to resolve this ?
[12:14] <krishna> Wolphie are you there
[12:14] <schnux> krishna: where's the problem in changing the display manager ?
[12:14] <jgcampbell300> what was the command that shows you all your hdd's like hd0 etc
[12:14] <novato_br> schnux: i've tried to update videocard drivers
[12:15] <ikonia> jgcampbell300: do "sudo fdisk -l "
[12:15] <novato_br> and I've got this error
[12:15] <jgcampbell300> that is just showing me sda1
[12:15] <krishna> I have installed GDM I want to remove it
[12:15] <jrib> krishna: how did you install it?
[12:15] <mrpinky> schnux, thanks! :D
[12:15] <monkey_dust> !gdm| krishna
[12:15] <Wolphie> krishna, you want to completely remove GDM or do you mean you don't want to use it anymore?
[12:15] <novato_br> how can I reconfigure the video driver on shell?
[12:15] <krishna> using apt-get install gdm
[12:16] <jrib> !apt > krishna
[12:16] <jgcampbell300> sudo apt-get remove gdm
[12:16] <b43confused> okay.  i am going to try to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20No%20Internet%20access advice for "NO Internet Access" install.  I may check back in with you all in five minutes though.  thanks to everyone for your help.  xoxoxoxoxoxoxox
[12:16] <krishna> ok
[12:18] <novato_br> !bot |install video card
[12:19] <krishna> How can I configure system sound in BT4
[12:20] <ikonia> KrisDouglas: backtrack is not supported here, it's in the channel #backtrack-linux
[12:20] <ikonia> oops
[12:20] <premchand> Hi... When i try to configure my USB card getting error Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
[12:20] <premchand>   any suggestions please....
[12:20] <ikonia> krishna backtrack is not supported here, it's in the channel #backtrack-linux
[12:20] <ikonia> premchand: what type of card is it
[12:20] <premchand> ikonia: its EC1262 Huwaei
[12:21] <ikonia> premchand: is that a network or broadband card ?
[12:21] <mrpinky> is there a way to use the currently-playing-system-audio as an input to gstreamer pipeline (linux)? i tried alsasrc device="/dev/mixer" but it fails trying to open /dev/mixer (no such file or directory)
[12:21] <mrpinky> sry wrong channel
[12:21] <KrisDouglas> ikonia, I never mentioned backtrack :P
[12:22] <KrisDouglas> ikonia, I just logged in xD
[12:22] <ikonia> KrisDouglas: typo
[12:22] <KrisDouglas> ikonia, no problem :)
[12:22] <glaucous> Anyone know of a good non-Gnome-based music player? Amarok is not working too well, failing with _some_ flac files and not able to play 96/24 files at all.
[12:23] <An_Ony_Moose> what's the boot splash screen program called again?
[12:23] <MaRk-I> premchand: try this:   http://freedomyug.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/how-to-configure-reliance-huawei-modem-with-ubuntu-10-4-lts-lucid-lynx/
[12:23] <Benhuard> premchand : did you have a look at http://freedomyug.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/how-to-configure-reliance-huawei-modem-with-ubuntu-10-4-lts-lucid-lynx/
[12:23] <astropirate> An_Ony_Moose: plymoth i think
[12:23] <astropirate> or something simillar
[12:24] <An_Ony_Moose> ah yes, that
[12:24] <An_Ony_Moose> 's it
[12:24] <An_Ony_Moose> thanks astropirate
[12:24] <astropirate> :-) np i know bcouse mine fails to start :-(
[12:24] <premchand> MaRk-I/Benhuard: that's the same link i have tried and getting error
[12:26] <premchand> Any other suggestions for me on configuring EC1262 WAN card please.....
[12:27] <astropirate> I was told that i could access a process's memory using the /prc/[PIC]/mem interface but when i open it in a text editor it's empty. and when i open it with using open() and read() it gives me the following errno error "No such process". Am i missing something here?
[12:28] <MauL^> is there a good GUI tool for configuring startup scripts in gnome @ ubuntu 10.04
[12:29] <Jinxed-> How difficult would it be to write your own driver for something?
[12:29] <KrisDouglas> Jinxed-, very if you do not own the hardware, why what do you need to make a driver for?
[12:29] <aguitel> MauL^, starupmanager
[12:31] <Jinxed-> KrisDouglas, I basically is a device that will do IP over ethernet, but it registers as a composite device I believe something like 4 serial and 1 ethernet
[12:31] <Jinxed-> sorry IP over USB not ethernet
[12:31] <dustball1> hello there. i want tu use my WhiteStar II dvb-stick with ubuntu. i run on ubunut 10.04, got the af9015 header for the kernel and got the firmware. still i dont know how to run it exactly
[12:31] <brijithmac> How can I enable seamless mode in virtualbox
[12:32] <An_Ony_Moose> how can you configure plymouth to use a different theme?
[12:32] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, you need to install the virtual box additions package, usually only works in windows from my experience
[12:32] <An_Ony_Moose> !plymouth
[12:32] <dustball1> noone can give me help with the dvb-thingy?
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> An_Ony_Moose: its doable.. i  just dont recall how/where  :) I normally just disable plymouth.
[12:32] <KrisDouglas> Jinxed-, I would most likely think that it is nearly impossible without schematics of the device itself.
[12:33] <computer_> what is a programm i can use to run windows on ubuntu...wine isnt working for me, i heard some talk bout vmware but not sure how to get it
[12:34] <kisuke> was there a netbook remix for 9.10?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> computer_:  go to the virtualbox homepage and read up on Virtualbox.  its easier to use then vmware
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> !virtualbox | computer_
[12:34] <computer_> thanks
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> computer_:  wine can run specific windows apps.   how well it works.. depends on the app.
[12:34] <An_Ony_Moose> nvm I've found it out
[12:35] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas: you mean,  linux as host machine one can not operate in seamless mode ?
[12:36] <computer_> ok i am installin virtual box package now :)
[12:36] <computer_> thanks dr willis
[12:36] <dury> how do I check if my burner it's connected rightly in ubuntu?
[12:36] <dustball1> once again: i have a dvb-usb stick and want it to run, but can't. whats wrong?
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> dustball1:  could be it has no linux support.
[12:37] <bastiaen> Is there any software availeble to run an OS in a vmbox just like you could run linux inside windows?
[12:37] <dustball1> well it doesnt have from the start, but with ubuntu or at least kernel 2.6.28 it runs.. or should
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> dustball1:  You may want to check the forums for its exact brand/make/model and check the MythTV/Mythbuntu forums also
[12:37] <jgcampbell300> hmm there should be a special menu in ubuntu for me ... if grub dosnt run it should read "So you have trashed your OS again. Please click here."
[12:37] <Jinxed-> KrisDouglas, are there any tools to take a windows driver and convert it for use in ubuntu? Also if I had access to the schmatics, how difficult would it be
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> dustball1:  so what have you done to 'use' it so far?
[12:37] <brijithmac> Hi all, How can I enable seamless mode in virtualbox ? The seamless mode menu seems disabled ...
[12:38] <dustball1> its plugged in, i downloaded and installed the af9015-module and copied the firmware to /lib/firmware
[12:38] <KrisDouglas> Jinxed-, Even with the schematics i would imagine it would be a real pain, and the only thing i know of with windows drivers is NDIS and im pretty sure that it wouldnt be able to work off of it.
[12:39] <jgcampbell300> is it possable to make 5 diffrent types of hard drives show up as one HD in ubuntu ?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  via raid/lvm yes. I think its possible. but it can be a hassle.
[12:40] <kisuke> !netbook
[12:40] <schnux> campbell: of course - mount ...
[12:40] <computer_> hmm do i need to have a windows cd to use virtualbox?
[12:40] <schnux> campbel: LVM
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  you mean 5 'different' hard drives showing up as one large filesystem?   I cant think of 5 differnt types of hard drives. :)
[12:41] <jgcampbell300> cool ... that would be neat to strip all my my storage drives togather
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> computer_:  you install the guest OS inside virtual box.. its a 'virtual pc' - so you need some sort of OS to install into it.
[12:41] <jgcampbell300> ya i mean sizes most are WD
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  untill one dies.. and you lose data on all them.
[12:41] <Jinxed-> KrisDouglas, so basically the end product of the device is that it is doing IP over usb... there aren't any other device drivers that I might be able to use for it?
[12:41] <jgcampbell300> lol ... good point
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  you could just mount them all to a single 'Data' directory with each drive as a sub dir.
[12:41] <brijithmac> Hi all, How can I enable seamless mode in virtualbox ? The seamless mode menu seems disabled ... ?
[12:42] <KrisDouglas> Jinxed-, if you have googled around for any model numbers displayed on the device, and looked for alternative names, it's not looking promising.
[12:42] <jgcampbell300> ya that would work
[12:42] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, i mentioned before, you have to install guest additions
[12:42] <jgcampbell300> i was thinking of the speed increase at first tho but loss of data would suck
[12:42] <ascent__> how to connect on LAN in Lubuntu
[12:43] <ascent__> other pc has Win Xp
[12:43] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, you can do that through the mount menu if i recall, but as far as I am aware seamless mode is limited to some operating systems, which one are you using?
[12:43] <jgcampbell300> oh well just dreaming ... i crashed my grub and getting to sleepy to work on it lol
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> !samba | ascent__
[12:43] <karim__> ubuntu's window border and controls disappear!
[12:43] <Raven__> #ubuntu.pl
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> karim__:  try alt-f2 and run 'metacity --replace'
[12:43] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas: Lucid
[12:43] <computer_> hmm so i am basicaly runin linux, but using a windows OS for games!
[12:43] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas: and the gust is windows xp
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> computer_:  games may not work very well in virtualbox.. it depends on the game.
[12:44] <computer_> ugh
[12:44] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, you just need to install guest additions
[12:44] <jgcampbell300> hmm does anyone know if adobe master collection will run under wine or would i have to go Vbox
[12:44] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas: how to do that ?
[12:44] <bastiaen> It will run under wine
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | jgcampbell300
[12:45] <bastiaen> Well cs4 runs great for me atm
[12:45] <KrisDouglas> jgcampbell300, I would recommend using a virtual box, it is a pain in the ass to run it under wine, its almost un-usable
[12:45] <CrackGuy> I've just installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but the sound card doesn't seem to work.. can someone help me please..
[12:45] <KrisDouglas> that is using the latest version of wine from their GIT repository
[12:45] <dustball1> okay uhm... any good program that is dvb-compatible?
[12:45] <researcher1> i want to connect to my office pc which has ubuntu
[12:45] <jgcampbell300> ahh ... kk ... just wondered if anyone else had tryed it ... im so sick of running windows for work
[12:46] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, Devices menu, then click install guest additions
[12:46] <researcher1> kindly help me connect 2 my students aho r in office n Im at home pc
[12:46] <jgcampbell300> you could use Openssh
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> researcher1:  use ssh/scp/sshfs  if you want to access files.
[12:47] <CrackGuy> I've just installed fresh Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but the sound card doesn't seem to work.. can someone help me please..
[12:47] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas: its says. cannot find some file.. download from Internet
[12:47] <karim__> why don't the window border and the controls stay the way they are when I switch on again
[12:47] <researcher1> Dr Wilis how to do that my office pc dont have ssh installed
[12:47] <researcher1> but home pc has
[12:47] <mrvn> Anyone with upstart knowledge here? With "stop on ((starting rc and runlevel [!2345]) or runlevel [2345])" in foo why does rc no longer start?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> researcher1:  then you are proberly out of luck. Unless you installed some other service on the box.
[12:48] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas:where can I get this  VBoxGuestAdditions.iso
[12:48] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, one second, just need to close something
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> brijithmac:  the virtualbox menus could auto mount it/download the latest last time i tried virtualbox
[12:48] <Jinxed-> KrisDouglas, is there a way to see detected hardware from usb?
[12:48] <karim__> i don't like metacity. compiz looks and acts way better
[12:49] <backTrack4> lsusb
[12:49] <KrisDouglas> lsusb
[12:49] <tyler> .hu
[12:49] <backTrack4> krisCouglas ok he
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> brijithmac:  virtualbox guest os window menus -> devices -> install guest addations. and it will mount that iso to the guest os.
[12:50] <computer_> linux isnt very gamer friendly :(
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> karim__:  so use 'compiz --replace'  if compiz or metacity crashes you lose your title/decorations. You may want to install the fusion-icon tool. it can restart compiz if compiz crashes.
[12:50] <kisuke> computer_: no, game companys arent linux frendly
[12:50] <computer_> lol kisuke
[12:50] <KrisDouglas> computer_,  because nobody writes modern games for linux at the moment, Steam is soon going to change that, try using wine to run your games though, some of them work quite well
[12:50] <brijithmac>  Dr_Willis:when I clicked the menu it asked me to download the guest addition.iso
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> game Companies are often not 'gamer' friendly
[12:51] <kisuke> computer_: its true.
[12:51] <kisuke> Dr_Willis: that depends on the company.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> brijithmac:  it just auto mounted it here for me. Im using the Vbox from the download site. Not the OSE version from the repos
[12:51] <brijithmac>  Dr_Willis:oh I see..
[12:51] <mrpinky> a really great free linux RTS game (similar to total annihilation) sudo apt-get install spring-engine
[12:51] <brijithmac>  Dr_Willis:I am using OSE
[12:51] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, yea, Dr_Willis is right, if you download the non open source version from the website, you will probably have more luck, its easy to install
[12:51] <Jinxed-> KrisDouglas, would it be possible to run something that wine or some virtualization tool that would allow me to run my hardware with the windows driver in some virtualization but still get the ip data back to ubuntu?
[12:51] <Amway> i want to play Prince of Persia :p
[12:52] <mrpinky> Ameth, install "dosbox"
[12:52] <CrackGuy> I've just installed fresh Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but the sound card driver doesn't seem to work.. can someone help me please..
[12:52] <jgcampbell300> did you guys ever figure out that grub problem someone was having earlier ?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> i get my games from -> http://www.playdeb.net/welcome/
[12:53] <KrisDouglas> Jinxed-, yes, possibly, if you install Virtualbox from virtualbox.org, install Windows, you should be able to load the device and use it as if it was on the PC. As for Wine I honestly don't know if it would work.
[12:53] <KrisDouglas> another linux game i find way to addictive is Sauerbraten (a very good FPS all things considered)
[12:53] <Dan_E> how do i edit the boot up grub menu I am using ubuntu 1004 and Kernel 2.6.32-24. I want to edit out 2.6.32-23 & 22.
[12:54] <KrisDouglas> and there is also Urban Terror, which makes for some quite good counter-strike style gameplay
[12:54] <KrisDouglas> Dan_E i am not certain, but you may be able to use synaptic to uninstall the unwanted kernels, then use update-grub
[12:54] <MaRk-I> !sound | CrackGuy
[12:55] <jgcampbell300> !grub
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Uninstalling kernels should automatically update grub.
[12:55] <raj1000> I didnt get any reply on bt channel
[12:56] <KrisDouglas> raj1000, what was the question?
[12:56] <Dan_E> I did that and didnt update grub so i am left with the menu that needs edited
[12:56] <manday> How can I get rid of the big fat icons in natulius? That's awfully annoying! The icons take up 10% of the space, even in list view and the text is so large that blind people could read it
[12:56] <raj1000> How shuld I configure sound on bt4
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> raj1000:  see the BT4 channel.
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> !bt4 | raj1000
[12:56] <KrisDouglas> manday, go to appearence settings, and change the fonts to size 8 or 9, it makes it much more readable
[12:56] <MaRk-I> krishna changing nicks wont help you either
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> !backtrack | raj1000
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> raj1000:  or check their forums.
[12:57] <raj1000> Noone is there i dont get any reply
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> raj1000:  sounds like a good reason to not use 'bt4' then
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> !sound
[12:58] <Dan_E> maybe i should reinstall them and update grub this time?
[12:58] <dustball1> okay... my dvb-stick is said to be outta the box, but it doesnt work...
[12:58] <chris_osx> raj1000: what is bt4???
[12:58] <PureSine> hi, does ubuntu has a default firewall ?
[12:59] <Takeasy> help! my desktop icons are disappeared, and cant right click on desktop
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> PureSine:  thers no default rules set.
[12:59] <bastiaen> bt4 = Backtrack4
[12:59] <KrisDouglas> !ufw PureSine
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> PureSine:  but the feature is there.
[12:59] <TiK> help I accidently removed the wireless panel and can't reinstall it *can't find it in the list)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | TiK
[12:59] <backTrack4> bastiaen yes
[12:59] <jgcampbell300> hey Dr ... i have 4 partitions on a drive and i am trying to find the one to install grub to ... two say linux one extended and one swap ... how do i figure out witch one is right
[12:59] <PureSine> how can I activate it then ?
[13:00] <chris_osx> bastiaen: what is that?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  you nromally install grub to the MBR of teh drive. Not a partition of the drive
[13:00] <TiK> henius
[13:00] <TiK> genuis, thanks
[13:00] <MaRk-I> !firewall | PureSine
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  ie: install grub to /dev/sda   NOT /dev/sda1 sda2 or any other # just 'sda'
[13:00] <Takeasy> help! my desktop icons are disappeared, and cant right click on desktop
[13:00] <KrisDouglas> PureSine http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823741
[13:01] <jgcampbell300> ok thanks
[13:01] <tobiasz> newest kernel makes my Ubuntu load forever, it just stays at Ubuntu splashscreen, anyone got this problem too? I rarely can boot without problems on it
[13:01] <PureSine> ok thanks
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Takeasy:  sounds like nautilus crashed. try alt-f2 and run 'nautilus'
[13:02] <razz1> is there any way to make the sound output louder, my lappy sounds louder under windows but way less in ubuntu
[13:02] <manday> KrisDouglas: im concerned about the huge icons in front of the text
[13:02] <Takeasy> fail to load, Dr_Willis
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Takeasy:  did you try  just logging out/back in?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Takeasy:  or open up a terminal and try running nautilus and look for error messages
[13:03] <Takeasy> Dr_Willis: tried, same prob
[13:03] <Takeasy> will do
[13:03] <giovy> salve
[13:03] <giovy> Firefox mi si avvia solo da root? why?
[13:03] <Pici> !it | giovy
[13:04] <Takeasy> Dr_Willis: natualus not installed, should i install it?
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Takeasy:  Nautilus is the default file manager in Ubuntu...  i doubt if its not installed...
[13:04] <researcher1> how do I know if ubuntu OS is available in my native language
[13:04] <Takeasy> i use xubuntu
[13:04] <Hedron> I was wandering, is there a way to actually stop using sudo, kdesudo, gksudo for every single admin task in ubuntu?  I tried setting rootpw in sudoers, but for some tasks it continues to ask for user password instead root's one.
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Takeasy:  then i have no idea. I dont use xubuntu and i dont know how it handles the desktop icons. try #xubuntu perhaps
[13:04] <Mr> hello guys
[13:05] <slow-motion> hi
[13:05] <Takeasy> Dr_Willis: i got it, thx
[13:05] <Mr> had anybody tried qt
[13:05] <KrisDouglas> Hedron, sudo -i puts you in a permanent root shell for that session
[13:06] <Pengy> Hello!!!
[13:06] <Mr> almost drive me  crazy
[13:06] <KrisDouglas> Hedron, if you were to launch any apps from that shell they would be running as root, and work as root.
[13:06] <Hedron> No, you do not understand, I do not whant to use sudo. At all. I whant to use su.
[13:06] <computer_> gonna see if i can get GUildwars to work with wine, so far its working :)
[13:06] <Hedron> I whant to revoke all admin privileges from user
[13:06] <Mr> i use root
[13:06] <backTrack4> use root
[13:07] <Hedron> me too, but whant to
[13:07] <kryl> hi
[13:07] <Hedron> stop sudo from appearing in places like kpackagekit
[13:07] <Mr> ah, why not root?
[13:07] <backTrack4> heeeeeeee
[13:07] <Hedron> as I mentoined I set the rootpw in sudoers
[13:07] <razz1> is there any application to make the sound output louder
[13:07] <KrisDouglas> Hedron, "su -" does the same thing and puts you in an admin shell, the idea of running in an environment like that is security, you can do "sudo passwd root" and login as root, but you open yourself up to any person being able to do anyting with your pc
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> its best to learn to use the 'sudo' system.
[13:08] <Hedron> I know, I have enough experience with other linux systems, such as fedora, opensuse
[13:08] <daedaluz> I lost volume control icon from panel for no reason and it's not in applet selector. WTF?
[13:08] <Hedron> I whant to know how to stop sudo from usage
[13:08] <An_Ony_Moose> uninstall it?
[13:08] <KrisDouglas> Then in that case, you can login as root by using sudo passwd root
[13:08] <KrisDouglas> and then running the system as root
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  the one next to the mail is one of those new kind of applet. theres also the old gnome-volume-control-applet  you can run
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  did you remove that mail icon also?
[13:09] <Hedron> ok, tell me this - how using sudo to elevate ordinary user in ubuntu is diferent from run as under windows?
[13:09] <computer_> i installed ubuntu through wubi inside my windows xp;...is there any way to acess my windows xp files while i am in ubuntu?
[13:09] <Hedron> I whant to completely disable admin privileges for a user
[13:09] <MaRk-I> !root | Hedron
[13:10] <Hedron> I know sudo passwd or sudo su
[13:10] <daedaluz> Dr_Willis: no it's still there
[13:10] <computer_> ROFL ubottu
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Hedron:  theres more to sudo that what most people realize  read up on it at --> http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/intro.html
[13:10] <Hedron> I have more than 7 years of unix/linux experience :-D
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  odd. it may of crashed.
[13:10] <An_Ony_Moose> computer_, ubottu is a bot
[13:10] <daedaluz> Dr_Willis: I've tried restarting
[13:11] <Hedron> yes, but the way it is popping up arround every corner in ubuntu is annoing
[13:11] <daedaluz> Dr_Willis: any idea what the process is called?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  Hmm. You could reset the panels
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[13:11] <tobiasz> newest kernel makes my Ubuntu load forever, it just stays at Ubuntu splashscreen, anyone got this problem too? I rarely can boot without problems on it
[13:11] <computer_> i love the matrix
[13:11] <computer_> and that was so awesome
[13:11] <Hedron> and I personally consider it to be major security flaw
[13:11] <Kartagis> I'm trying to connect to a windows machine via vinagre, and it says verification method is not supported. how come?
[13:11] <computer_> i am gonna put it on my facebook!
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  not really. I was just looking for it.. ive never noticed a way to close it or start it..
[13:11] <Hedron> or to say epic fail
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Hedron:  Sudo's been argued both ways in the forums.. and basically its how ubuntu works . so thats what this channel 'supports'
[13:11] <lostinspace_46> When compiling software, if you have an .sh file (for instance genfslist.sh) does not that file need to be executable?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> lostinspace_46:  if its not executable you need to do 'sh whatever.sh' then
[13:13] <matrix> hello guys
[13:13] <troopperi> computer_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=914358
[13:13] <computer_> k i will see
[13:13] <matrix> what do you think that s group parttion  ?
[13:13] <jgcampbell300> well maybe that installed grub back lol
[13:13] <geoff0110> anyone know why i virtualbox cant see my usb ports ?
[13:13] <computer_> thanks trooper
[13:13] <matrix> in my opinion ,i will use ext4
[13:13] <daedaluz> Dr_Willis: I tried resetting, still not there. only network manager, bluetooth  and mail visible
[13:13] <daedaluz> Dr_Willis: volume controls work just fine under pulse, so it shouldn't be related to it
[13:13] <KrisDouglas> geoff0110, are you using the one from the repository
[13:14] <geoff0110> yes KrisDouglas
[13:14] <Mr> i use vritual box too
[13:14] <MaRk-I> geoff0110: virtualbox OSE you cant use USB on guest machines
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  Try making a new user. and see if it shows up for them
[13:14] <backTrack4> how update kadu ??
[13:14] <jgcampbell300> ahhh crap
[13:14] <jgcampbell300> still got a blank screen
[13:14] <ABBADON> Hi, I'm having a bit of a problem with GRUB, is this the correct channel to ask?
[13:14] <lostinspace_46> Dr_Willis, I got the tarball for the program that allows you to "pretty up" the grub screen, and I am trying to compile it.  However, even the configure file isn't executable till I make it so.
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> ABBADON:  we can always point you to some wiki/docs/guides
[13:14] <KrisDouglas> geoff0110, ahh, that done does not have USB support, you need to uninstall it and download the non-open source version from the website at http://virtualbox.org
[13:15] <KrisDouglas> geoff0110, it's just a deb file, and it won't delete your virtual machines
[13:15] <tobiasz> newest kernel makes my Ubuntu load forever, it just stays at Ubuntu splashscreen, anyone got this problem too? I rarely can boot without problems on it
[13:15] <geoff0110> ok sounds easy enough, apt-get remove virtualbox ?
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> thats right geoff0110
[13:16] <geoff0110> ok thanks KrisDouglas
[13:16] <ABBADON> Dr_Willis, Thank you, is there any reason why GRUB would stop at stage 1.5 when using a separate home partition on a USB hard drive?  Every time I have it plugged it, GRUB stops.
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> tobiasz, please don't repeat yourself, if you are not getting a response, it usually means nobody knows the solution to the problem
[13:17] <KrisDouglas> tobiasz, have you tried removing the new kernel with recovery mode and replacing it with the older one
[13:17] <jgcampbell300> is there a recovery program for grub ?
[13:17] <Hedron> You know, the combination "sudo su" is ridiculous enough, to make me whant to shoot the computer, obviously I will just continue using openSuSE, and I whanted to switch for using aptitude. But whatever.
[13:17] <geoff0110> KrisDouglas: one last question will apt-get remove delete my .Virtualbox folder ?
[13:18] <KrisDouglas> geoff0110, no, when you install the new virtualbox it should read that data, but, i would make a backup copy to be sure
[13:19] <tobiasz> KrisDouglas I've got the older one, I am just willing to let Ubuntu devs know about that issue
[13:19] <geoff0110> ok will do thanks
[13:19] <lostinspace_46> Dr_Willis, It does not seem like the program would compile if files that need to be executable, aren't.  Or am I missing something?  BTW, some of the .sh files are executable and some are not.  Might they get changed to executable when configure runs?
[13:19] <blip99> hi all, yesterday I did some resizing of partitions with gparted to give space out of some logical partitions to my main root primary partition. It completed but with some warnings, I can't figure out how serious those warnings are and whether I should recreate some partitions and reinstall Linux. Can you please take a look at lines 258, 433, 472: http://pastey.net/139012-2fac    ... do you think this is serious ?
[13:20] <tobiasz> KrisDouglas what should I do to report the problem to Ubuntu developers?
[13:20] <blip99> shall I reinstall Linux after recreating the partitions ?
[13:20] <lenovo> 没有中国到？
[13:20] <Misterio> blip99: It isn't necesary
[13:20] <MrSunshine> hmm, how do i make the grub menu wait for me to press a selection before continuing ?
[13:20] <Misterio> !english | lenovo
[13:20] <MaRk-I> !cn > lenovo
[13:20] <om26er> blip99, what do you mean by linux?
[13:21] <lostinspace_46> MrSunshine, hit any key
[13:21] <daedaluz> mystery of missing volume control applet remains
[13:21] <computer_> do not try to get your games to work with wine, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth...There is no gaming in linux. then you will see it is not the OS that games, but ur mind itself!
[13:22] <computer_> lol jk
[13:22] <lostinspace_46> MrSunshine, That is hit any key except enter
[13:22] <computer_> i got GW to work i think, so far its wroking!
[13:22] <computer_> !root
[13:22] <computer_> owned!
[13:22] <cutiyar> how to run windows program with virtual box ?
[13:23] <Kartagis> I'm trying to connect to a windows machine via vinagre, and it says verification method is not supported. how come?
[13:23] <tobiasz> cutiyar install windows in virtualbox :P
[13:23] <Kartagis> authentication*
[13:24] <cutiyar> tobiasz, now iam using ubuntu but i want running windows exe
[13:24] <tobiasz> cutiyar install wine 1.2 from repository
[13:24] <cutiyar> tobiasz, AND I KNOW ABOUT WINE
[13:24] <tobiasz> cutiyar what's the problem then? :P
[13:25] <cutiyar> tobiasz, wine does noy work eith all exe
[13:25] <tobiasz> cutiyar with most
[13:25] <Pici> cutiyar: What is your actual question?
[13:25] <marekw2143> hi, given one app installed via apt-get, how to upgrade that app?
[13:26] <tobiasz> cutiyar you need to know what components might be required to run certain applications, best source is wine's homepage
[13:26] <daedaluz> marekw2143: sud aptitude upgrade app-name
[13:26] <cutiyar> pici , i want running exe file type with virtual if its possible i dont want wine
[13:26] <daedaluz> marekw2143: sudo, not sud
[13:26] <Pici> cutiyar: virtualbox requries that you install Windows yourself within it.  You'll need Window's installation media and a license to do so.
[13:26] <abhijit> hello :)
[13:26] <marekw2143> daedaluz: ok, thanks
[13:26] <tobiasz> cutiyar always check here http://appdb.winehq.org/ there are rating, tweaks and solutions to get programs to work
[13:26] <computer_> cutiyar,  u need virtualbox-ose package, and then u need windows xp or w/e CD and install it on the virtual box!
[13:28] <cutiyar> computer_ how to install windows in virtual ?
[13:28] <marekw2143> daedaluz: aptitute upgrade didn't work, but apt-get upgrade worked
[13:28] <Misterio> marekw2143: it's aptitude, not aptitute
[13:29] <marekw2143> Misterio: sorry, I made typo on irc, in my system I used aptitude
[13:29] <bazhang> marekw2143, that wont upgrade individual apps unless new ones are available
[13:29] <Misterio> marekw2143: oh, okay
[13:29] <bazhang> marekw2143, ubuntu is not a rolling release distro
[13:29] <marekw2143> bazhang: apt-get upgrade app-name told me that it would upgrade about 160 packages
[13:29] <marekw2143> bazhang: rolling release?
[13:30] <lolzhax> hello
[13:30] <Misterio> !hi | lolzhax
[13:30] <bazhang> marekw2143, that would not upgrade a single app that you wish, just give the latest of all available upgrades; if wine came out with a new version tomorrrow, it would not be available in apt-get upgrade in a similar time frame
[13:31] <lolzhax> I just installed Xubuntu 10.04. then my harddrive corrupted and I lost all my data and my windows 7
[13:31] <marekw2143> bazhang: is it for consistency reasons?
[13:31] <Misterio> bazhang: tell me if I am correct; ubuntu doesn't update app's versions, it just add patches. App's version upgrades will come in next ubuntu version
[13:31] <bazhang> marekw2143, stability for the most part
[13:32] <lolzhax> good thing I used my flash drive to install it or else I wouldn't have an OS right now lol
[13:32] <Asad2005> When i start dansguardian with tinyproxy and firehol i can not do sereach in firefox with yahoo or google it is giving Parsing Error: undefined entity. if i stop firehol it works please help
[13:32] <marekw2143> bazhang: but if in our example wine would worked, why don't let users upgrade to newest version of it?
[13:32] <backTrack4> bye
[13:32] <daedaluz> marekw2143: go to winehq.org, look around, upgrade to latest version
[13:32] <bazhang> marekw2143, its not the way ubuntu handles software updates/upgrades. simple.
[13:32] <Misterio> marekw2143: If you would like to upgrade use its repo
[13:33]  * YankDownUnder checks channel topic again
[13:33] <jakyo> info: who wanna free shell account plz join #netcorp , Thx..
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[13:33] <SmashedHammer> needs help with Lenovo G550 running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - the Lucid Lynx. The issue is that my DVD rom no longer recognizes DVD movies. Tried VLC, no go, nor does 'MoviePlayer'.
[13:33] <FloodBot4> jakyo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:34] <MaRk-I> !libdvdcss | SmashedHammer
[13:34] <SmashedHammer> Movie player gives "Could not read from resource" error
[13:35] <andril> does Wine 1.2 still have the quirks  when you remove a app?
[13:35] <bazhang> andril, ask in #winehq
[13:35] <daedaluz> SmashedHammer: problem occured suddenly or after installation?
[13:35] <SmashedHammer> after install
[13:36] <daedaluz> !libdvdcss | SmashedHammer
[13:37] <SmashedHammer> daedaluz: forgive the ignorance, but what is meant by !libdvdcss
[13:37] <daedaluz> dunno
[13:37] <DiploCat> SmashedHammer, it makes ubottu say: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:38] <bazhang> SmashedHammer, it decrypts dvd copy protection
[13:38] <SmashedHammer> thanks
[13:39] <DiploCat> SmashedHammer, if it is a new install of Ubuntu, you need to run this from the command line:  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[13:40] <JulioNeto> Hi all
[13:41] <livingdaylight> hi, anyone know where the flashplugin for Chrome is found?
[13:41] <livingdaylight> flash keeps crashing on both chrome and ff, any ideas why this could be?
[13:42] <ResQue> livingdaylight: did it work before?
[13:42] <linxeh_> livingdaylight: because flash is rubbish
[13:42] <JulioNeto> livingdaylight, is anything crashing?
[13:42] <livingdaylight> JulioNeto, yes, a lot
[13:42] <ResQue> livingdaylight: are you on 32 or 64 bit and yes flash does suck, i realy hope HTML becomes the new standard and we get rid of flash
[13:42] <JulioNeto> livingdaylight, try to use another player... like gnash
[13:42] <livingdaylight> Researcher, it did when I had openjdk. I've removed and replaced with sun-java
[13:43] <JulioNeto> and see what happens livingdaylight
[13:43] <ResQue> html 5 has some great new features
[13:43] <SmashedHammer> DiploCat: Thank you that appears to have done it
[13:43] <abhijit> !flash | livingdaylight
[13:43] <fabio> ResQue: not supported yet
[13:43] <livingdaylight> where is flashplugin for Chrome found?
[13:43] <ResQue> !Restricted
[13:43] <fabio> livingdaylight: with chrome you can use html5
[13:44] <livingdaylight> I think sun-java is the best option, so I would like to try that as paltalk extreme was crashing before
[13:44] <fabio> but cpu usage is as high as the flash
[13:44] <ResQue> i hate ogg most player dont support it, although that might be getting better, i had loads of trobble when i first head of ogg
[13:44] <ResQue> heard
[13:44] <livingdaylight> fabio, chrome says there is no java, but i did install it for sure. Maybe I just need to restart it?
[13:44] <SmashedHammer> #exit
[13:44] <figure002> hello. does anyone know a good channel for help wich C programming in linux? I already know about the channel #C.
[13:44] <smallfoot-> ResQue, Ogg is a container for video and audio
[13:44] <fabio> livingdaylight: maybe
[13:45] <fabio> the way mp4 is
[13:45] <computer_> how do i force close a program? wine is always bein unresponsive!
[13:45] <smallfoot-> figure002, #c #linux #programming, maybe on other networks too such as EFnet, Undernet, DALnet, QuakeNet
[13:45] <smallfoot-> computer_, you can kill Wine with killall wine
[13:45] <fabio> computer_: kill wineserver
[13:46] <figure002> smallfoot-: thanks, i'll try there
[13:46] <computer_> so command in terminal is "killall wine" ?
[13:46] <smallfoot-> $ killall wine wineserver
[13:46] <ResQue> smallfoot-: yes i think you are right, ogg if defo the way farward, but although most players can play whats inside the ogg container they can not understand the container it self, i could be wrong i use VLC these days, and its been a while since i played one so it could be getting better
[13:46] <rapture> I'm getting a load of fake dead pixels, any ideas what could be causing them?
[13:46] <smallfoot-> ResQue, Ogg uses Vorbis for audio and Theora for video
[13:46] <rapture> they appear in screenshots too
[13:47] <rapture> running an NVIDIA card with 173 restricted drivers
[13:47] <smallfoot-> Researcher, VLC supports Ogg. Rhythmbox supports Vorbis audio.
[13:47] <ResQue> smallfoot-:  i thought you could put any format you like inside a container?
[13:47] <fabio> smallfoot-: what about ipod sony walkman creative zen?
[13:48] <smallfoot-> ResQue, Ogg can contain many formats, but most commonly used is Theora and Vorbis
[13:48] <ResQue> fabio: the ipod might support it, you can play ogg audio on the thing i think. its been a long time since i looked into this
[13:48] <ResQue> smallfoot-: i see :-D
[13:48] <computer_> i think i am starting to like this "ubuntu" !
[13:48] <ABBADON> Hi, is there a tool for editing GRUB's device.map or do I have to do so manually?
[13:48] <fabio> not my sony walkman
[13:48] <computer_> i would LOVE it if all my games worked :/
[13:49] <smallfoot-> fabio, iPod, Sony Walkman and Creative Zen supports MP3 but not free file formats, open standards and royalty-free standards such as Ogg, Vorbis, Theora
[13:49] <computer_> cause its FREE!! lol
[13:49] <DiploCat> sony walkman definitely supports cassette
[13:49] <smallfoot-> ResQue, iPod is done by Apple who are compatibility and interoperability. They hate open standards. They want to lock you in using proprietary file formats. Apple is a strong practicer of vendor lock-in.
[13:49] <smallfoot-> fabio, iPod is done by Apple who are compatibility and interoperability. They hate open standards. They want to lock you in using proprietary file formats. Apple is a strong practicer of vendor lock-in.
[13:49] <ResQue> smallfoot-: i think the ipod can play ogg audio, becuase you can use itunes to convert it
[13:50] <fabio> i know! ... just a little ot: sony walkman kicks ipod in the ass
[13:50] <Misterio> !ot
[13:50] <smallfoot-> fabio, which is why they have their own formats, Apple have Apple Audio Codec and Sony have ATRAC-#
[13:50] <smallfoot-> ATRAC-3
[13:50] <ResQue> fabio: get your cassettes out  haha
[13:50] <DiploCat> fabio, except I hate turning the tape over every 30 mins
[13:51] <smallfoot-> iPod is overhyped, its pretty, but thats it. its not well-known for its good audio quality
[13:51] <fabio> sony walkman is the best mp3/mp4 player around
[13:51] <smallfoot-> there are many portable media players which are better than iPod
[13:51] <computer_> UBUNTU!
[13:52] <smallfoot-> mp3 players are a dying breed now with advanced mobile phones which does MP3, MP4, WMA, and both audio and video
[13:52] <rapture> Any ideas about graphical corruption creating faux dead pixels?
[13:52] <fabio> finally ubuntu has a good mtp support
[13:52] <computer_> yeah smallfoot
[13:52]  * Misterio points #ubuntu-offtopic (fabio, smallfoot-, computer_)
[13:52] <smallfoot-> no idea why they created MTP
[13:52] <smallfoot-> probably just to mess with people
[13:52] <smallfoot-> and break shit lol
[13:52] <ResQue> smallfoot-: i agree and with the new google phones and android i think there is going to be  a lot more innovation coming out way
[13:53] <smallfoot-> ya
[13:53] <JulioNeto> Is there any easy way to change GDM screen resolution? I have only found xorg.conf optitions.
[13:53] <smallfoot-> 1+ GHz ARM processors. Those android phones do HD video and gaming like Quake 3, Unreal, etc
[13:53] <smallfoot-> JulioNeto, i think xorg.conf is the way to go
[13:54] <computer_> what is a good phoen i can get where i dont have to pay extra for internet and stuff?
[13:54] <smallfoot-> JulioNeto, though Xorg should auto-detect proper good native resolution
[13:54] <JulioNeto> smallfoot-, the proper native resolution is 800*600... but it is too low and my monitor can 1024*768 pretty well
[13:54] <abhijit> !ot | computer_
[13:55] <computer_> k
[13:55] <computer_> abhijit are u indian?  i am indian too!
[13:55] <lemonade_> 9 pm
[13:55] <smallfoot-> JulioNeto, you can edit xorg.conf
[13:55] <rapture> can we help you with something, computer_?
[13:56] <Misterio> computer_: Stop please. If you want chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic. This is a support channel
[13:56] <computer_> ok sorry bye
[13:56] <fabio> JulioNeto: did u try System-> Preferencs -> MOnitor?
[13:56] <JulioNeto> fabio, yep... it changed the system resolution... but GDM is still using 800*600
[13:57] <JulioNeto> I don't understand why
[13:57] <fabio> gdm has its own config
[13:57] <researcher1> how do I know if ubuntu is available in my mother tongue
[13:58] <easyfit> hey, I'm having some diffculty finding where I can define which window manager to use by default if the user hasn't made a choice... I'm guessing it should be in the display manager, but I can't find it anywhere in either GDM or KDM
[13:58] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! What uid would I need to use to mount drives on startup? When I tried using nousid, I can
[13:58] <econdudeawesome> t rw to the drive
[13:58] <Misterio> researcher1: What's your mother language?
[13:58] <geemee> Hi folks. I have a test ubuntu desktop with dhcp3 server installed. Works fine however it does not start at computer startup. Any ideas where to specify this?
[13:59] <researcher1> my mother tongue MARATHI Indian
[13:59] <blip99> hi, can anyone help me with a gparted error ?
[13:59] <easyfit> geemee, I think you should have a look at the "service" command
[13:59] <ABBADON> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 and I've just moved my /home partition to an external USB drive.  For some reason, whenever I have it plugged in, I can't boot the system - it just hangs at GRUB stage 1.5 and I have to hard reset the computer.  I did some searching and found that it's possible that GRUB has some sort of naming conflict, so I edited device.map and restarted, but no dice.  Is it...
[13:59] <ABBADON> ...possible GRUB is re-writing device.map during the boot process?
[13:59] <blip99> researcher1: you speak indian ?
[13:59] <easyfit> or maybe actually update-rc.d
[13:59] <researcher1> Misterio my mother tongue MARATHI Indian
[13:59] <Misterio> researcher1: pff, I don't know, try LiveCD and check if it is in that tongue
[13:59] <researcher1> I talk Indian
[13:59] <terry__> Can britannica encycylopaedia installed on ubuntu?
[14:00] <blip99> researcher1: I don't
[14:00] <pumpya15> hey
[14:00] <terry__> Can britannica encycylopaedia be installed on ubuntu?
[14:00] <pumpya15> i got a question
[14:00] <researcher1> blip99: Yes I talk Indian
[14:00] <monkey_dust_> !ask| pumpya15
[14:00] <blip99> researcher1: can you type indian ?
[14:00] <ksbalaji> any help with dpkg error? I lost ubuntu on upgrading.
[14:00] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! What uid would I need to use to mount drives on startup? When I tried using nousid, I can't write to the partitions (even with the rw option)
[14:00] <pumpya15> how can i open .exe files in backtrack-linux
[14:01] <terry__> Can britannica encycylopaedia be installed on ubuntu?
[14:01] <monkey_dust_> ksbalaji, try dpkg-reconfigure -a
[14:01] <geemee> easyfit: OK have a list of all services running. I presume the + is for at startup and the - is disabled?
[14:01] <ABBADON> pumpya15, I'm guessing you should probably use WINE for that.  Linux doesn't natively support .exe files.
[14:01] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, have you chowned the drives? in addition to permissions man chown (or chown yourname:yourname /thedrive
[14:01] <erUSUL> !wine | pumpya15 ask further questions in #backtrack-linux
[14:01] <blip99> in dee ya
[14:01] <terry__> Can britannica encycylopaedia 2010 be installed on ubuntu?
[14:01] <mrpinky> terry__, doubtful
[14:02] <easyfit> geemee, I'm not sure, sorry, I'm not that used to ubuntu, I was really just trying to point you in the right direction
[14:02] <terry__> Any encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:02] <mrpinky> terry__, you can try installing WINE, then try double-clicking the installer
[14:02] <mrpinky> terry__, wikipedia?
[14:02] <ksbalaji> monkey_dust_, yes I tried - as I told before. It says read only files... and quits
[14:02] <terry__> Encarta?
[14:02] <erUSUL> !appdb | terry__
[14:02] <mrpinky> terry__, are you from the past?
[14:02] <researcher1> bli  I can tye Indian
[14:02] <phpgeek> hai
[14:02] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky when I did that I got an operation not allowed error
[14:02] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, sudo chown
[14:02] <terry__> yes cant forget encarta
[14:03] <handjob> Hi all. I just installed dwm. What files I need to edit in order to add some applications on startup (of X)?
[14:03] <terry__> Any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?>
[14:04] <terry__> Any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:04] <erUSUL> handjob: ~/.Xsession ? ~/.xinitrc ?
[14:04] <monkey_dust_> terry__, you could wget the brittannica site
[14:04] <terry__> What?
[14:05] <terry__> Any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:05] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky I tried through sudo, and I tried as root
[14:05] <terry__> Any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:05] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky same error both times
[14:05] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, sorry i'm stuck :(
[14:05] <Quiet_guy> hi guys
[14:05] <handjob> erUSUL: My .xinitrc points at ". /etc/X11/Xsession". Can You show me how regular .Xsession should look like?
[14:06] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky its not too bad of a problem right now--just have to press "s" at startup to skip mount error. Would like to fix completely. What usid is root? I think perhaps adding that to options in fstab would fix it
[14:06] <handjob> erUSUL: or never mind I will google that out. Thank You.
[14:06] <terry__> Any using any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:06] <terry__> Any using any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:06] <econdudeawesome> terry__ try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474444
[14:06] <ksbalaji> monkey_dust_, what command can I use from the live cd (this is knoppix) to repair my installed ubuntu? any idea please?
[14:06] <erUSUL> handjob: no problem « man Xsession » exist.
[14:07] <bazhang> terry__, dont repeat so quickly
[14:07] <econdudeawesome> terry__ first link in a google search--Ubuntu + Google == Operating Marital Bliss
[14:07] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, root uid is normally 0, but i can be anything
[14:07] <handjob> erUSUL: Sometimes I just...Thx again.
[14:07] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky where would I check? "Users and Groups"
[14:07] <phanindra> hai
[14:07] <econdudeawesome> terry__ the Wikipedia download is not that large, and has less errors than britannica or encarta
[14:08] <terry__> thanks!
[14:08] <econdudeawesome> terry__ unless you have a desperate need to have an updated account of Lindsay Lohan's exploits. It's probably a protected page
[14:08] <chris_osx> terry__: are you sure you are looking for any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:08] <econdudeawesome> terry__ but if that's the case, you need the internet to stay current :-D
[14:08] <monkey_dust_> ksbalaji, try backing up your ubuntu, then remove and reinstall it and put your backed up files back
[14:08] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, cat /etc/passwd will list users and ids
[14:09] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky it's under the group id's too--0 is right for plain vanilla ubuntu install
[14:10] <monkey_dust_> econdudeawesome, i looove lindsyay lohan
[14:11] <ksbalaji> monkey_dust_, I was upgrading when powercut spoiled everything. Now, is it possible to reinstall an upgrade? I feel it only can be repaired.??
[14:11] <Quiet_guy> how do i join other servers with xchat?
[14:11] <monkey_dust_> ksbalaji, try to install the newer version, then
[14:11] <econdudeawesome> monkey_dust I don't, but I couldn't think of anybody else's name I'd heard in the news recently
[14:12] <Lantizia> Can anyone remember that project that lets you run the linux kernel as a service on windows?  And thus Ubuntu?
[14:12] <monkey_dust_> ksbalaji, upgrading the OS, or just some packages?
[14:12] <econdudeawesome> monkey_dust and singling out Obama gets old ;)
[14:12] <Lantizia> nevermind - already remembered
[14:12] <ksbalaji> I was upgrading from 8.04 to 9.10. Infact, I wanted to upgrade again to 10.4
[14:12] <monkey_dust_> !ot| Quiet_guy
[14:13] <erUSUL> ksbalaji: you could have done 8.04 --> 10.04 being both LTS this upgrade is supported
[14:13] <monkey_dust_> ksbalaji, then my advice is to install the newer version, after you backed up important documents
[14:13] <econdudeawesome> Anyone know how to add root to a user/group? I'd like to do something with both root and the main admin account without adding the main admin account to "root" group
[14:14] <abhijit> monkey_dust_, for any xchat question redirect users to channel #xchat
[14:14] <ksbalaji> Yeah. I was searching for that. But the upgrade app showed only 9.10 to upgrade.
[14:14] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: I suppose a repair upgrade could be doable, I never faced a power cut. Depending on your partitioning it could ba as "simple" as installing 10.04 directly instead of dealing with a broken upgrade, methinks.
[14:14] <monkey_dust_> didn't know that one, abhijit
[14:14] <artinstartin> hi, I used KleanSweep with sudo rights, only "useless thumbnails" function, and now kde has a problem. Can I fix the whole system from a usb stick somehow?
[14:14] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: root does not need to be on any group. and we do not support an enabled root account
[14:14] <econdudeawesome> Quiet_guy although it shows up in logs and people here longer than me don't like to give that kind of advice, in xchat "/connect <server>" works fine
[14:14] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL so not my question at all
[14:15] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL do you support editing fstab?
[14:15] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, performing that action as root will produce the same result as performing it from your user account with sudo
[14:15] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, You sound very reasonable. Unfortunately, I do not have a 10.04 installable dvd.
[14:15] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: yes
[14:16] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, there's also a gui tool in the system menu that wraps up the fstab editing for you :D
[14:16] <ABBADON> Can anyone help me with a booting issue?
[14:16] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, further, all upgrade for 9.10 was already done. The failure occurred only at the fag end.
[14:16] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky it doesn't, I've tried. Awsome erUSUL. I am trying to get my partitions to mount in a writable way. Adding "rw" to fstab didn't work, chown gives an operation not allowed error. The only thing that works is setting the usid in fstab to my user account, but then at login I have to skip mounting. Can I add another usid to the fstab line?
[14:16] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, system -> administration -> disk utility
[14:16] <omkar> hey guys
[14:17] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: ... Darn. Talk about misfortune! What's your box's status at the moment?
[14:17] <omkar> I am planning to install gnome 2.28.2 on kubuntu
[14:17] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: show us the fstab line that is giving problems. tell us what type of fileystem you are mounting
[14:17] <omkar> for some reason I have downloaded the tarball for gnome 2.28.2
[14:17] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL two of them:
[14:17] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, the downloads were over. unpacking done and midway configuring, dpkg failed.- pwr failed.
[14:17] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL: /dev/sdb1	/mount/storage-backup	ext4	auto,user,rw,uid=1000	0 0
[14:17] <econdudeawesome> /dev/sda1	/mount/storage		vfat	auto,user,rw,uid=1000	0 0
[14:17] <dave> e
[14:18] <omkar> n while configuring it said to install a  gnome-doc-utils >= 0.3.2
[14:18] <poncho> hi
[14:18] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: the first one is wrong. ext4 does not support uid option
[14:18] <omkar> test
[14:18] <deepk> Well behaving dual-boot Ubuntu 9.10 (with Windows Vista) suddenly stopped recognizing Keyboard. Windows Vista recognizes it. What might cause it?
[14:18] <giaco> hello
[14:18] <Jinxed-> What is a simple/good ftp server to use with Ubuntu?
[14:18] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, yeah. misfortune. I searched and found this knoppix livecd and am contacting using this! after 3 years of ubuntu!
[14:19] <giaco> I've just installed ubuntu netbook edition, I want to switch to italian language but it seems that the usual configuration panel is not working
[14:19] <poncho> i want to install google earth last time only the splash screen came up
[14:19] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL what do I need to do then to make it writable
[14:19] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: so put just "defaults,user" as options
[14:19] <giaco> It's still in english
[14:19] <poncho> should i try older version
[14:19] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL I'll give it a shot
[14:19] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: set up correct permissions
[14:19] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL how do I do that
[14:20] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: you either mount it in amount point where you can writte or you make dirs inside the filesystem where you can writte
[14:20] <erUSUL> !addingfs | econdudeawesome
[14:20] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, the only other livecd for ubuntu I have is an old gutsy.
[14:20] <erUSUL> !permissions | econdudeawesome
[14:20] <econdudeawesome> !permissions
[14:20] <econdudeawesome> !fstab
[14:20] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: the vfat paritrion does support uid i also recommend to put a liberal mask in it
[14:20] <erUSUL> !ntfs | econdudeawesome
[14:20] <Guest80079> I am trying to burn an iso image to a blank dvd in ubuntu desktop 10.04 64 bit. I right click on image file and choose: write to disk. But my blank dvd is not recognized, Message says: install a supported disk. It is a dvd-r 1-16x 4.7 g; can anyone help or tell me what I am doing wrong?
[14:21] <poncho> hmm
[14:21] <poncho> boring
[14:22] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: can you access your data? I would suggest backing it all to an USB stick, download the 10.04 iso, place it on an USB stick, boot from the USB stick, and then restore your data. From here it sounds like the best alternative for you at this time. I assume that you tried to boot your box and that it is in an unusable state.
[14:22] <ABBADON> Hi, I'm having a problem booting Ubuntu 10.04 after moving my /home partition to a USB hard drive - has anyone else had this issue?
[14:23] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL what does a liberal mask do
[14:23] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: umask=0000 makes all files in the partiton accessible by anyone
[14:23] <jrib> !ftpd | Jinxed-
[14:23] <razz1> is there anyway to make the sound output louder, my laptop speakers sound a bit louder in windows but really low under ubuntu. any way to make them louder
[14:23] <artinstartin> Is there a command to auto-fix the "registry" or a general system repair command?
[14:23] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: uid guid umask and all that options are only supported by vfat
[14:24] <Guest80079> cmpsalvestrini: I am trying to burn an iso image to a blank dvd in ubuntu desktop 10.04 64 bit. I right click on image file and choose: write to disk. But my blank dvd is not recognized, Message says: install a supported disk. It is a dvd-r 1-16x 4.7 g; can anyone help or tell me what I am doing wrong?
[14:24] <jrib> artinstartin: ubuntu doesn't have a registry.  What problem are you experiencing?
[14:24]  * erUSUL thinks of gconf
[14:24] <econdudeawesome> I'll be back to test :-)
[14:25] <Zeus__> Hello! Am I going to have any problems if I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop keeping the partition of the Home folder of 10.04 untouched?
[14:25] <jrib> Zeus__: 10.10 is still being developed, so yes, probably
[14:25] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, though the upgrade failed, as a consolation, the recovery mode works for the previous kernel. Otherwise, the data partitioning etc seem to be intact in the hdd.
[14:25] <abhijit> !10.10 | Zeus__
[14:25] <bazhang> Zeus__, #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:26] <Zeus__> thank you all!!
[14:26] <artinstartin> jrib: I was running KleanSweep in sudo and now there is a kde problem but everything work (just no internet) also on start up it says cannot mount home, when i wsant to start in recovery mode. then also when i boot, it says problems mounting home, press s for skip,
[14:26] <jrib> artinstartin: what is kleansweep?
[14:26] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, But, I am no good with linux commands. especially those related with upgrade repair work!
[14:26] <artinstartin> jrib: a tool to delete unused files, or dead links
[14:27] <jrib> artinstartin: you need to figure out why you can't mount home
[14:27] <bugs_bugger> hey guys. anybody know what to do? i had trouble uninstalling the ubuntuzilla thunderbird-build. postremoval-script had an error. fixed the related line in the script, uninstalled it. now, when i install the ubuntu build of thunderbird, its being showed in synaptict as installed, but i cant execute it (file not found) and apt-get in the terminal states, its currently not instaled
[14:27] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: have you tried the recovery mode? My solution is quite... radical, so to speak, so I'd like to keep it as a last resort in case everything else fails.
[14:27] <artinstartin> jrib: oh now
[14:27] <artinstartin> jrib: oh no
[14:28] <Ejdesgaard_> hi, i have compiled the latest kernel with yes '' | make oldconfig, rebooted and then tried to reinstall the ati driver for my HD3300... but i get the following: http://dpaste.org/Uxhw/
[14:28] <artinstartin> jrib: i have ubuntu on a usb stick, do you see any chance?
[14:28] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, what is this recovery mode? I am able to boot the last kernel recovery - not the gui version. but command prompt is offered.
[14:28] <jrib> !kernel > Ejdesgaard_
[14:28] <deepk> Well behaving dual-boot Ubuntu 9.10 (with Windows Vista) suddenly stopped recognizing Keyboard. Windows Vista recognizes it. What might cause it?
[14:29] <jrib> artinstartin: try mounting the partition your home is on to some arbitrary (empty) directory and see what happens
[14:29] <giaco> please help me I've an ubuntu netbook edition that doesn't want to be in italian language, just english. It's 10.04, how am I supposed to change language?
[14:29] <erUSUL> giaco: System>Admin...>language support
[14:29] <jrib> giaco: enable italian where erusul said and then choose it at the login screen
[14:30] <artinstartin> jrib: where do i do that, while i run ubuntu?
[14:30] <jrib> artinstartin: where do you do what exactly?
[14:30] <Ejdesgaard_> jrib, well... the reason why i compiled a newer kernel, is that kernel <2.6.35-rc4 has a bug that makes wow in wine act like garbage...
[14:30] <artinstartin> jrib: where di I mount from?
[14:30] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, monkey_dust_ I took a grave risk in upgrading without a backup. Even now, ubuntu is alive. but unable to get up and running!
[14:30] <jrib> Ejdesgaard_: that page details how to get restricted modules setup
[14:31] <artinstartin> jrib: don't understand what you mean
[14:31] <jrib> artinstartin: a terminal
[14:31] <cutiyar> hello
[14:31] <artinstartin> jrib: o i try
[14:31] <artinstartin> jrib: thanks
[14:33] <giaco> erUSUL, done it, thank you.
[14:33] <erUSUL> giaco: no problem
[14:34] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: Sounds like in CLI recovery mode it *should* be possible to run apt commands to redo the upgrade, otherwise I'm afraid the only way would be to download the 10.04 ISO and transfer it to an USB stick for a clean installation from the USB stick. I'm sure this is doable with your Knopix installation.
[14:34] <mattish> good afternoon :)
[14:34] <mattish> I have 2 ip's on eth0 and eth0:1 within the same network range, is it possible to set the default gateway to be on the alias interface ?
[14:35] <mattish> I cant seem to get it to work, no matter how I add default it goes out via eth0 not eth0:1 :(
[14:36] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL worked like a charm, thanks!
[14:37] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: no problem
[14:37] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, Yes . thanks. I also feel that this can be done. ... And thats why I am here. BUT, ignorant me, I need help.
[14:39] <cmpsalvestrini> afk
[14:39] <unimatrix9> hi there
[14:39] <erUSUL> hi here
[14:39] <unimatrix9> how is it going
[14:39] <Jinxed-> What is a simple GUI based ftp server that I could use
[14:39] <erUSUL> Jinxed-: use ssh
[14:39] <deepk> Jinxed-: FileZilla
[14:40] <Jinxed-> Filezilla only is a client in ubuntu
[14:40] <rupeshitpatekar> Suddenly all files from my desktop deleted automatically but all folders are as it is but they wont contains files in it....how i can recover those files.......
[14:40] <Jinxed-> as far as I know deepk
[14:40] <unimatrix9> is there any one who has , an windows xp machine with shared printer ? can i print from ubuntu to the xp shared printer , all tips are welcome ..
[14:40] <deepk> oh, vsftpd is good too.
[14:41] <rupeshitpatekar> Suddenly all files from my desktop deleted automatically but all folders are as it is but they wont contains files in it....how i can recover those files.......those data is very critical for me
[14:41] <ksbalaji> knoppix livecd offers installation repair tools. How to use them to repair my broken Ubuntu upgrade?
[14:42] <sectroyer> Hi. How can I NOT run X by default in ubuntu ?
[14:42] <jrib> sectroyer: have gdm not start at boot
[14:42] <bazhang> ksbalaji, ask in a knoppix channel?
[14:42] <sectroyer> jrib: How ? :)
[14:42] <jrib> sectroyer: either edit /etc/init/gdm.conf and add "never" as a condition or just rename the file to something that doesn't end in .conf
[14:43] <ksbalaji> bazhang, I am worried about my crashed ubuntu upgrade.
[14:43] <unimatrix9> rupeshitpatekar , maybe they are hidden files now, browse to your file with filebrowser, and hit crtl + h ,
[14:43] <bazhang> ksbalaji, try to fix it then? not sure why you want a knoppix cd here
[14:43] <Lalon> ;)
[14:43] <hrhrhr_> how do i enable normal 'su'
[14:43] <hrhrhr_> instead of sudo
[14:44] <sectroyer> jrib: In which line should I add it?
[14:44] <mneptok> hrhrhr_: sudo -i
[14:44] <Lalon> is there anything like yahoo messenger in ubuntu?
[14:44] <gafir> Hi Folks, does anybody know if there's the equivalent of the iPad but with the capacity to run Ubuntu? a sort of Ubuntu Pad tablet? :-)
[14:44] <jrib> sectroyer: the one with the conditions, you can add "and never"
[14:44] <ksbalaji> bazhang, a knoppix livecd I found handy after ubuntu upgrade crashed. I seek help to fix the failed dpkg.
[14:44] <jrib> sectroyer: conditions *for starting*
[14:44] <hrhrhr_> mnemon: is there no 'su' in ubuntu?
[14:44] <sectroyer> start on (filesystem ...) etc?
[14:44] <sipior> hrhrhr_: su comes installed by default, i believe.
[14:44] <bazhang> ksbalaji, try #knoppix then
[14:44] <mneptok> Lalon: Empathy can use the Y!IM protocol.
[14:44] <jrib> hrhrhr_: of course there's a su....
[14:44] <hrhrhr_> it doesn't seem to accept creds
[14:45] <rupeshitpatekar> @unimatrix9: I tried that command but still wont get my files
[14:45] <hrhrhr_> like it's disabled
[14:45] <jrib> hrhrhr_: be more specific
[14:45] <gafir> hrhrhr_: You can do sudo -i, it's the equivalent of su sort of no? :-)
[14:45] <Lalon> mnemon,  how to use that
[14:45] <mneptok> Lalon: start Empathy, add an account, make it a Y!IM account.
[14:45] <Lalon> mneptok,  i have empathy but u know i can share my pic with my yahoo frnds and they can share their pics
[14:45] <jpds> hrhrhr_: There is no su.
[14:45] <ksbalaji> bazhang, forget about knoppix. Can you help me fix my failed Ubuntu upgrade please?
[14:45] <jpds> !noroot | hrhrhr_
[14:45] <sipior> hrhrhr_: you can't use your own login's password with su, if that's what you're trying to do.
[14:45] <Lalon> mnemon,  i know its there but u cant share pic there
[14:45] <Lalon> mneptok,
[14:45] <gafir> ubottu hrhrhr_: why not use sudo -i ?
[14:46] <mnemon> Lalon: ?
[14:46] <bazhang> ksbalaji, please restate your issue to the channel with as much detail as possible; if someone knows they will undoubtedly assist
[14:46] <Lalon> mnemon, not to u sorry
[14:46] <mneptok> mnemon: tab-complete fail
[14:46] <hrhrhr_> sudo is er
[14:46] <hrhrhr_> two extra chars to type
[14:46] <hrhrhr_> and im lazy
[14:46] <mneptok> hrhrhr_: alias it
[14:46] <bazhang> hrhrhr_, easy on the enter key there
[14:46] <gafir> hrhrhr_: goodness :-) What a tough world we live in to type 4 letters instead of 2
[14:46] <hrhrhr_> and also
[14:46] <Kwpolska> I need to make my IP address in my local network static. How can I do that?
[14:46] <hrhrhr_> sudo is gay
[14:46] <Lalon> so empanthy is only for messeging
[14:46] <hrhrhr_> nm
[14:46] <unimatrix9> ksbalaji , use knoppix live cd , but you can use the ubuntu live cd as well, backup all your data to an usb external drive or so , or maybe to an other partition, and do an clean install of ubunut ?
[14:46] <FloodBot4> hrhrhr_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:46] <hrhrhr_> google :P
[14:46] <jrib> hrhrhr_: wow.  Stop.
[14:46] <Makoto> Enter text here...hiii
[14:46] <Lalon> u cant do anytin more there
[14:47] <erUSUL> Kwpolska: configure it as such in Network Manager ?
[14:47] <Makoto> how r u all??
[14:47] <gafir> so, anybody knows of an ipad clone with UBuntu? :-)
[14:47] <Kwpolska> erUSUL: how?
[14:47] <Kwpolska> gafir: tablet pc's.
[14:47] <Kwpolska> not a clone.
[14:47] <mneptok> Lalon: Empathy does audio and video chat as well, if you have Linux-supported hardware
[14:47] <sectroyer> jrib: After adding "and never" linux restarts all the time.
[14:47] <Makoto> there is no susch a thing
[14:48] <rupeshitpatekar> @unimatrix9: I tried that ctrl+H command but still wont get my files back which are very important for mw
[14:48] <Lalon> mneptok,  i have linux supported hardware how can i make audio video chat tell me
[14:48] <gafir> Kwpolska: but they are a bit pricey, like $4000 on Dell
[14:48] <erUSUL> Kwpolska: right click on the NM icon. choose edit connections. choose the right device and choose edit. go to ipv4 tab. choose manual fill the information
[14:48] <jpds> hrhrhr_: No, it isn't, it's been the default for years on Ubuntu and most people are happy with it.
[14:48] <gafir> Lalon: Why not use skype: www.skype.com
[14:48] <mneptok> Lalon: if your webcam works in Ubuntu then other IM users should see the option to have a video chat with you
[14:48] <Lalon> gafir,  can u use yahoo chat in skype?
[14:49] <hrhrhr_> i just dont agree with the whole 'all users are nubz so we need to keep them away from root shells'
[14:49] <Kwpolska> hmm, what was the ip...
[14:49] <sipior> hrhrhr_: so do what you want. who cares?
[14:49] <Lalon> mneptok,  yah i know then what about me , how can i share my pic with my frnds and can accept their photo sharing
[14:49] <Da_Wrecka> Non-Linux question again... Assuming you were looking for a new 3.5" hard drive, and you were looking at two otherwise-identical drives, which would you prefer and why; 800GB with 64MB cache, or 1TB with 32MB cache?
[14:49] <unimatrix9> ipad clone : http://wetab.mobi/
[14:50] <rupeshitpatekar> Suddenly all files from my desktop deleted automatically but all folders are as it is but they wont contains files in it....how i can recover those files.......those data is very critical for me.......I also tried ctr+h command
[14:50] <Da_Wrecka> I ask here because of the channel I frequent, this one seems to have the most technically-minded occupants
[14:50] <bazhang> Da_Wrecka, ##hardware for that
[14:50] <Oer> Da_Wrecka, ask in #Ubuntu-offtopic ?
[14:50] <Da_Wrecka> *channels
[14:50] <Da_Wrecka> Oh, good point
[14:50] <mneptok> Lalon: i have no idea. i have never used the official Y!IM client and do not share photos. if i want someone to see a picture, i use the web. that's what the web is for.
[14:50] <ksbalaji> While upgrading from 8.04 to 9.10 (which was the only upgrade offered by the upgrade tool - when trying to upgrade to 10.04) powercut spoilt upgrade at the fag end. Downloads ware over. packages unpacked and config was being carried out. Now, aptitude asks to use dpkg -configure -a. But dpkg is unable to run for want of some read only files. HELP.
[14:50] <hrhrhr_> sipior: i thought for a moment i might not be the only person who came from slack
[14:50]  * Da_Wrecka is stoopid, durrrr
[14:50] <hrhrhr_> and an answer would leap out at me
[14:50] <hrhrhr_> clearly], this was foolish
[14:51] <sipior> hrhrhr_: if you can't figure out how to enable su, do you *really* think you should have unmitigated access to a root shell?
[14:51] <Lalon> mneptok,  yeah u know .. but u know security issue is there when u put ur pic to web
[14:51] <simon__> i installed mintbackuptool and now i cant acces to gnome.console mode says i am using mint(false),and gnome too(safe mode)
[14:51] <mneptok> hrhrhr_: the answer is "sudo -i" and if you don't like the extra characters make an alias for it.
[14:51] <hrhrhr_> yes
[14:51] <astropirate> I was told that i could access a process's memory using the /prc/[PIC]/mem interface but when i open it in a text editor it's empty. and when i open it with using open() and read() it gives me the following errno error "No such process". Am i missing something here?
[14:51] <hrhrhr_> i love slapping commands i dont know the implications of into root shells
[14:51] <hrhrhr_> KAPOW KAPOW KAPOW
[14:51]  * Kwpolska hugs erUSUL 
[14:51] <bazhang> !enter| hrhrhr_
[14:51] <Synthead> is there a way to install a package to a different root?
[14:52] <erUSUL> Kwpolska: :) yw
[14:52] <Lalon> how do u open rar file in ubuntu?
[14:52] <erUSUL> !rar | Lalon
[14:52] <unimatrix9> type free the fish in your bash command
[14:52] <unimatrix9> :P
[14:52] <Pici> !ot | unimatrix9
[14:53] <simon__> i changed /etc/issue /etc/issue.net /etc/lsb-realese
[14:53] <simon__> but when i reboot it dont change anything
[14:53] <unimatrix9> yes dear benjamin
[14:53] <Oer> Lalon install rar from synaptic
[14:53] <ksbalaji> ....continued .... dpkg error message unable to access dpkg status area...read only file system.
[14:53] <Lalon> cani install it from terminal?
[14:54] <bazhang> Lalon, sure
[14:54] <Pici> simon__: 1) We do not support mint here, please use their irc channel. 2) You really shouldn't touch those files.
[14:54] <Pici> !mintsupport | simon__
[14:54] <Lalon> bazhang,  how to do that
[14:54] <simon__> Pici,  i'm using ubuntu!!
[14:54] <Oer> Lalon sure, sudo apt-get install rar
[14:54] <simon__> this is the problem
[14:54] <simon__> i'm not have mint,and it says i using it
[14:55] <unimatrix9> strange
[14:55] <Pici> simon__: mintbackuptool is not in the Ubuntu repositories.
[14:55] <simon__> but i installed .deb packages
[14:55] <MatBoy> mhh, Iḿ searching for a CRM I forgot, ir was opensource and in the same line as vtiger and sugarcrm, but than fully free and opensource
[14:55] <Synthead> any idea about installing to a different root?  If I mount an ubuntu drive on another ubuntu system, I want to be able to apt-get something and have it install on the guest drive
[14:56] <unimatrix9> bye bye all ;)
[14:56] <gnomefreak> mint uses .deb  take a look in /etc/apt/sources.list to see if you have mint repo in there
[14:56] <gnomefreak> simon__: ^^^
[14:56] <ksbalaji> unimatrix, sorry for the delay - I have a very old ubuntu gutsy live cd which I fear may not support the purpose. However, I am able to boot upto the level of recovery prompt. can you guide to repair upgrade  - with dpkg application please?
[14:56] <gnomefreak> more than likely it pulled in mint packages
[14:56] <Ejdesgaard_> is there a ubuntu repos with bleeding edge kernels?
[14:57] <abhijit> !backports | Ejdesgaard_
[14:57] <cutiyar> Lalon, install it from ubuntu center
[14:57] <Pici> abhijit: That does not contain bleeding edge kernels.
[14:57] <abhijit> Pici, I see
[14:58] <hrhrhr_> sudo -i runs .bash_profile
[14:58] <gnomefreak> there is a kernel PPA but i dont use it
[14:58] <hrhrhr_> many thanks you excellent ppls
[14:58] <simon__> only ubuntu repos
[14:58] <avi_> hello everyone
[14:58] <gnomefreak> simon__: you installed something you shouldnt have  remove it see what happens
[14:58] <MatBoy> aaahhh !! mhh can't remember
[14:58] <Lalon> cutiyar,  installed already
[14:59] <Lalon> so now the problem is using yahoo messenger
[14:59] <Pici> Ejdesgaard_: You could look at the mainline kernel ppa. But be aware that we cannot support issues with those here.
[14:59] <cutiyar> Lalon,  good
[14:59] <Synthead> no thoughts on installing to a different root?
[14:59] <biscottin> hi, anyone knows about a channel with focus asterisk?
[14:59] <mIjd> YESTERDAY I WAS TALKING WITH FRAKN SINATRA. HE TOLD ME. 'HEY MIKE O'CONNOR, YOU SHOULD SPAM IN #UBUNTU'. SO I AM DOING IT! :-D
[14:59] <mIjd> YESTERDAY I WAS TALKING WITH FRAKN SINATRA. HE TOLD ME. 'HEY MIKE O'CONNOR, YOU SHOULD SPAM IN #UBUNTU'. SO I AM DOING IT! :-D
[14:59] <mIjd> YESTERDAY I WAS TALKING WITH FRAKN SINATRA. HE TOLD ME. 'HEY MIKE O'CONNOR, YOU SHOULD SPAM IN #UBUNTU'. SO I AM DOING IT! :-D
[14:59] <FloodBot4> mIjd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:59] <bjegovic> DO ANYBODY KNOW HOW CAN I SPEED UP LXDE, ITS ON UBUNTU.
[14:59] <cutiyar> lalon ,u cant use empathy to video c/audio chat
[14:59] <gnomefreak> bjegovic: lose the caps please
[14:59] <bazhang> bjegovic, no caps
[14:59] <Amway> lol
[14:59] <bjegovic> ok sorry
[15:00] <cutiyar> lalon , i have same problem
[15:00] <Lalon> cutiyar,  hmm cant even share pic
[15:00] <gafir> lalon cutiyar: I use Skype for linux, because I use it to have video chat with people who use linux or mac, and so skype is the prefered application
[15:00] <Synthead> nobody here knows how to install packages to a different root?
[15:00] <gafir> lalon cutiyar: I'd rather use something more open-source, but pidgin doesn't support video chat with skype
[15:00] <Lalon> gafir,  but u know the ppl who use yahoo u cant do video chat with them in skype
[15:01] <biscottin> hi, anyone knows about a channel with focus asterisk?
[15:01] <bjegovic> how can i speed up lxde on ubuntu 9.1 ??
[15:01] <Lalon> yeah
[15:01] <cutiyar> gafir, all people that i talk to them they dont know even whats linux?
[15:01] <bazhang> biscottin, #asterisk
[15:01] <Lalon> so cant we use Y!M in ubuntu
[15:01] <marianna> can someone tell me where to find Network-Manager. I have it installed, but it's not in system or apps.
[15:01] <gafir> Lalon cutiyar: I don't think you can video chat with linux and yahoo messenger, you can use pidgin to connect to yahoo messenger and text chat and send files, but that's all
[15:01] <gnomefreak> marianna: look on your tool bar it should be there
[15:02] <gnomefreak> marianna: gnome == upper panel on right hand side
[15:02] <ksbalaji> Synthead, doubtful. I am trying for a week here now to repair my crashed ubuntu in it own root.
[15:02] <marianna> it got lost when I upgraded to Lynx
[15:02] <cutiyar> gafir, empathy also did that
[15:02] <Lalon> gafir,  i see ...
[15:02] <marianna> It's not even in the 'add to panel' thing
[15:02] <gnomefreak> marianna: add it back, it should be in add to panel menu
[15:02] <Lalon> linux is incomplete u know...
[15:02] <gafir> cutiyar Lalon: Yes, Empathy does it too; I personally prefer Pidgin
[15:03] <biscottin> bazhang: yes, but in which network? here in freenode only 4
[15:03] <Lalon> for msn i use emesene
[15:03] <Amway> what is the command to mount shared folder ?
[15:03] <Lalon> but for yahoo i can use none
[15:03] <Lalon> :(
[15:03] <gafir> Cutiyar Lalon: For Yahoo MEssenger Video, or even to have the photo sharing functionality, I have used VirtualBox with Windows XP inside of linux, and then install Yahoo Messenger in there
[15:03] <bazhang> biscottin, try /msg alis list *asterisk*
[15:03] <cutiyar> gafir , empathy is better for slower connection i have slow connection
[15:04] <[SePoY[> help me please
[15:04] <Pici> biscottin: There are 239 people in #asterisk
[15:04] <Lalon> gafir,  i dont hav xp in my pc
[15:04] <Pici> biscottin: You need to be registered to join there.
[15:04] <Pici> !register > biscottin
[15:05] <cutiyar> gafir, but i dont know how to install windows with virtualbox ?
[15:05] <[SePoY[> can anyone help me on my xchat?
[15:05] <aeon-ltd> [SePoY[: explain.
[15:05] <bazhang> [SePoY[, ask a question
[15:05] <Lalon> neither know i
[15:05] <cmpsalvestrini> back
[15:06] <bjegovic> how can i speed up my lxde on ubuntu?? need help please...
[15:06] <[SePoY[> i can't see who's online here
[15:06] <[SePoY[> i mean the userlist
[15:06] <hexa-> can somebody redirect me to a channel where i can get support for wine+intel graphics driver+opengl apps
[15:06] <gafir> Lalon cutiyar: It's not XP, it could be Vista, or 7
[15:06] <Pici> cutiyar: Virtualbox support is in #vbox, they should have documention to help you install operating systems in vbox.
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[15:06] <FloodBot4> freeprw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <Pici> hexa-: Wine's support channel is #winehq
[15:07] <biscottin> thanks bazhang! you great
[15:07] <[SePoY[> can u help me where can i find it?
[15:07] <hexa-> thanks
[15:07] <ksbalaji> Now, can a great friend tell where to look for dpkg repair help please?
[15:07] <cutiyar> pici gafir, thansks
[15:07] <marianna> my computer died - not plugged in.
[15:07] <marianna> anyway. I can't add the network-manager from add to panel
[15:07] <Pici> ksbalaji: Ask here.  If you have errors, please paste them to a pastebin and share the link.  Please ask your question all on one line if possible.
[15:08] <pacopad> Hi all , little question , i got a soft that try to access to the framebuffer without success
[15:08] <pacopad> I tried to put a vga arg in grub but no way
[15:08] <Lalon> :(
[15:09] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: there's a thead in ubuntuforums about repairing apt-get, here's the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=357857
[15:09] <pacopad> i always got /dev/fb/0 no such file or dir
[15:09] <pacopad> could someone give me a tip please ?
[15:11] <ksbalaji> Pici, cmpsalvestrini  Great! Thanks ! My dpkg crashed while upgrading from 8.04 to 9.10. dpkg error msg::unable to access dpkg status area...read only file system =help?
[15:12] <pacopad> nobody ? please
[15:13] <Mike1> pacopad: what problem do you have?
[15:13] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: a read-only filesystem IMLK happens when said filesystem is not mounted. Perhaps by mounting the filesystem the command should work?
[15:14] <pacopad> i'm trying to execute an app that would access to /dev/fb/0
[15:15] <marianna> I lost Network-Manager during the upgrade to lynx. Now I can't connect to wifi at all.
[15:15] <michaelting> hello
[15:15] <aeon-ltd> [SePoY[: do the command /userlist
[15:15] <pacopad> and i got the curreent error /dev/fb/0 no such file or directory
[15:15] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, sounds just. which file system is to be mounted? what filesystems do dpkg deal with? I dont know :((
[15:15] <michaelting> i've tried following the guidelines on http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download to create a bootable USB drive with Ubuntu
[15:15] <metalgeek> hi is Ubuntu FHS compliant?
[15:16] <michaelting> thing is, I don't have a 1GB usb drive
[15:16] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview metalgeek
[15:16] <michaelting> so I tried it using an SD card (with USB reader) and portable hardisk
[15:16] <michaelting> but the boot won't work from either of the two
[15:17] <carlos> hey my ubuntu add and remove progrmas is broke
[15:17] <metalgeek> bazhang, Thanks once again
[15:17] <michaelting> any idea?
[15:17] <bazhang> michaelting, using unetbootin?
[15:17] <michaelting> bazhang: using terminal, cause I'm using MAc
[15:17] <VP1> installed Joomla in Ubuntu 9.04. Works fine but editing done to site is not saved bcoz Joomla is in root and I'm other administer. Pl help
[15:17] <bazhang> michaelting, and how did you do it in terminal on the mac?
[15:17] <michaelting> i followed the guide to install the img using Mac's terminal
[15:17] <michaelting> and it seems to work fine
[15:18] <ubuntuserver> Cadcenter1 AptDaemon: INFO: InstallPackages() was called: dbus.Array([dbus.String(u'compizconfig-settings-manager')], signature=dbus.Signature('s'))
[15:18] <michaelting> sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1m
[15:18] <ubuntuserver> and thats all i get
[15:18] <ubuntuserver> any one know why add and remov has stoped working
[15:18] <marianna> How do you remove a half-installed program? Package Manager?
[15:18] <ftruzzi> hi, what group I need to add my user so it can run programs like tcpdump, and others from the pcap library?
[15:18] <ubuntuserver> Package Manager has stoped working
[15:18] <ubuntuserver> Cadcenter1 AptDaemon: INFO: InstallPackages() was called: dbus.Array([dbus.String(u'compizconfig-settings-manager')], signature=dbus.Signature('s'))
[15:19] <ubuntuserver> thats all it says now
[15:19] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: try mounting the root filesystem on your ubuntu box, the exact /dev is dependent on your partitioning and installation
[15:19] <michaelting> bazhang: this is how I do it: sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1m
[15:20] <ubuntuserver> is there and way of reseting  Package Manager back t default
[15:20] <aeon-ltd> michaelting: were you doin this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles#Mac%20OS%20X
[15:20] <storm_zen> Just upgraded to Lucid.  Sound worked at first, but isn't now.  Is there a way to reboot only the sound?
[15:20] <CrackGuy> is there an IRC support channel for empathy?
[15:20] <michaelting> aeon-ltd: nope. I was doing this http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download
[15:20] <bazhang> CrackGuy, /msg alis list *empathy*
[15:21] <CrackGuy> bazhang, nothing found :(
[15:21] <ftruzzi> hi, what group I need to add my user so it can run programs like tcpdump, and others from the pcap library?
[15:21] <Kwpolska> anyone knows how to configure orpentagram cerberus for port fw?
[15:21] <ubuntuserver> WHY HAS PACKET MANINGER STOPED WORKING
[15:22] <Kwpolska> ubuntuserver: BECAUSE OF IT STOPPED
[15:22] <Kwpolska> !caps
[15:22] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, so shall I try. now I have to reboot shutting down this livecd. Thanks! hope to come here thru Ubuntu.
[15:22] <VP1> VP1: installed Joomla in Ubuntu 9.04. Works fine but editing done to site is not saved bcoz Joomla is in root and I'm other administer. Pl help
[15:22] <ubuntuserver> KWPOLSKA BUT WHYYYYY
[15:22] <ubuntuserver> sorry but why has it stoped any resoun
[15:22] <michaelting> aeon-ltd: yes, the guide is the same on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles#Mac%20OS%20X, and that's what I did
[15:22] <Lalon> so
[15:23] <Lalon> :(
[15:23] <cutiyar> my ubuntu do not read dvd ?
[15:23] <storm_zen> Anyone know how to reboot only sound?
[15:23] <ezscany> can someone help me on how to install 64bit nvidia drivers on ubuntu 10.04 :? tried 3 ways of doing it and nothing works
[15:23] <metalgeek> bazhang, Sorry, i needed to change machines and lost thet url you gave me
[15:23] <Kwpolska> !dvd | cutiyar
[15:23] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview metalgeek
[15:23] <Lalon> cutiyar,  download vlc player
[15:23] <metalgeek> bazhang, Thanks again
[15:23] <aeon-ltd> storm_zen: sudo /etc/rc.d/alsa restart
[15:23] <Lalon> cutiyar,  complete solution for ur dvd problem
[15:23] <Lalon> :D
[15:24] <storm_zen> aeon-ltd: Is also tied into pulseaudio as well?  ( I think pulseaudio is installed by default? )
[15:24] <philinux> !medibuntu | cutiyar
[15:25] <AdvoWork> Hi there, is it easy enough to upgrade from 8.04.4 to 10.04 desktop?
[15:25] <aeon-ltd> storm_zen: pulseaudio is a layer above alsa if your running a pulseaudio you can restart it the same way, but replace alsa with pulseaudio(or the name od the daemon)
[15:26] <cutiyar> ubottu, if i installed it what will happen>
[15:26] <storm_zen> aeon-ltd: There is no rc.d (for lucid?)  is that rc.local?
[15:26] <cutiyar> ?
[15:26] <CrackGuy> i am getting this error "/tmp/pidgin-facebookchat-1.67-1.deb could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences." ubuntu won't let me install the .deb.. any suggestions...
[15:26] <aeon-ltd> storm_zen: rc.d is a daemons folder, it might be different in ubuntu, i'm using arch
[15:27] <storm_zen> aeon-ltd: /etc/init.d, I think.
[15:27] <_iTroll> tomboy like notes with support for tagging notes?
[15:27] <cmpsalvestrini> I hope I was useful to ksbalaji... :S
[15:27] <ezscany> can someone help me ? i have a problem with my video drivers ...
[15:27] <philinux> AdvoWork: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades
[15:27] <storm_zen> aeon-ltd: ... And only thing also in there is alsa-mixer-save ...
[15:27] <michaelting> sorry, bazhang, you know what I did wrong?
[15:27] <aeon-ltd> storm_zen: no you run it in a terminal :)
[15:27] <bazhang> pidgin-facebookchat CrackGuy install it from repos
[15:28] <bazhang> CrackGuy, sudo apt-get install pidgin-facebookchat
[15:28] <philinux> AdvoWork: make sure you backup first
[15:28] <storm_zen> aeon-ltd: huh?  I am in terminal.
[15:28] <bazhang> michaelting, never done it from a Mac, sorry
[15:30] <dewman> is it necessary to have a xorg file in order to load nvidia glx?
[15:30] <daedaluz> dewman: apparently no longer
[15:30] <storm_zen> I guess I don't have time to mine the dark arts to determine how to reboot sound in Lucid.
[15:31] <michaelting> thanks, bazhang
[15:31] <storm_zen> If anyone knows how to restart sound, please leave a memo for me.
[15:31] <_iTroll> hello peeps, does anyone know a notes or desktop wiki that supports tagging notes/articles?
[15:31] <dewman> daedaluz, hmm....strange for some reason it doesnt want to load....
[15:32] <AdvoWork> philinux, anything inparticular i should be backing up?
[15:33] <philinux> AdvoWork: Your important stuff from /home
[15:34] <sipior> _iTroll: does tomboy not do tagging?
[15:34] <cmpsalvestrini> dewman: an xorg.conf file is still necessary AFAIK
[15:34] <AdvoWork> philinux, ahh ok, will it remove all that then, or could it
[15:34] <_iTroll> sipior: not afaik, and i had a look and couldnt see anything
[15:34] <nikolaj_basher> How can I get MC to use the internal editor as default? I tried to du it through MC but it won't work everytime I restart mc the default editor is vim?
[15:34] <aeon-ltd> nikolaj_basher: its in the config file
[15:35] <philinux> AdvoWork: No. an upgrade just upgrade the system files. But it can go wrong
[15:35] <aeon-ltd> nikolaj_basher: wouldn't you rather use your editor of choice anyway
[15:35] <nikolaj_basher> aeon-ltd, but I couldn't find the right line :(
[15:35] <philinux> AdvoWork: personally I would do a clean install. I have 3 partitions  / /home /swap
[15:35] <nikolaj_basher> aeon-ltd, I love to use it..
[15:36] <cmpsalvestrini> philinux: one other person I was chating with in here had an upgrade malfunction on account of his power failed, now he's recovering stuff. I fear that he's going to have to do a clean install tho.
[15:37] <philinux> cmpsalvestrini: I do a clean install with each new release. With home on it's own partition it's very easy
[15:37] <AdvoWork> philinux, not that easy to do clean install, at this second i mean anyway
[15:37] <philinux> AdvoWork: well just make sure you backup important stuff
[15:38] <philinux> AdvoWork: is this machine just ubuntu or dual boot?
[15:39] <cmpsalvestrini> philinux: you are wise my friend.
[15:40] <philinux> cmpsalvestrini: Experience I'm afraid though some failed upgrades back in 2007
[15:41] <cmpsalvestrini> philinux: Ah, a graduate from the university of hard knocks I see
[15:41] <philinux> cmpsalvestrini: Although I've seen people upgrade from dapper to now with no problems lol
[15:42] <cmpsalvestrini> philinux: I was lucky as well, upgrading from 9.04 to 10.04 was no problem at all for me. I *did* hava a backup of my important stuff however.
[15:43]  * cmpsalvestrini is also a graduate from hard knocks university
[15:43] <philinux> AdvoWork: To repeat is this machine just ubuntu or dual boot?
[15:48] <cmpsalvestrini> brb
[15:51] <TTGRULES> this is cool...
[15:51] <TTGRULES> I didn't know that this was here...
[15:51] <TTGRULES> so.... do I just ask a wuestion?
[15:51] <TTGRULES> *querstion
[15:52] <TTGRULES> question
[15:52] <sipior> TTGRULES: yep :-)
[15:52] <TTGRULES> stupid keyboard
[15:52] <GDotODot> yea stupid keyboard
[15:52] <Lalon> totem player do problems like when i put my mouse on the bar of totem it shows video otherwise it shows black screen
[15:52] <Lalon> whats the problem
[15:52] <TTGRULES> ok... I am building a computer, and I have a nice MB to support the AMD Phenom II... it runs fine, but it says the chipset temperature is 127C.... I know that can't be right.. but it keeps restarting
[15:53] <TTGRULES> anyone have any ideas...
[15:53] <TTGRULES> ive tried a bunch of stuff with lm-sensors...
[15:53] <stu_> i've used mplayer media player, but by installing mplayer i only get the video everytime i click on a vid? i don't get the player interface etc.
[15:53] <Lalon> TTGRULES,  i think ur machine is becoming hot
[15:53] <sipior> TTGRULES: why can't it be right?
[15:53] <TTGRULES> because,
[15:53] <Lalon> TTGRULES,  put extra cooling fan in ur cput box
[15:53] <mneptok> TTGRULES: did you attach the CPU heatsink and fan? ;)
[15:53] <GDotODot> BIGB where u at?
[15:53] <TTGRULES> I pointed an extra fan straight at it..
[15:54] <sipior> mneptok: i was going to ask... :-)
[15:54] <BigB> here
[15:54] <TTGRULES> and it only went down to 109C
[15:54] <GDotODot> okay i see u
[15:54] <desti> there is no contact between your cooler and the chip
[15:54] <TTGRULES> if I go off the hypothesis that it is reporting in ferenheight.....
[15:54] <TTGRULES> and convert it to celsius..
[15:54] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all. thought I would point out something that may apply to ubuntu developers. I have downloaded and re-downloaded the ubuntu alternative 64-bit installation cd 3 times now, and there appears to be a problem with the kernel during installation. The errors I am seeing in the installation log have been recorded here: http://pastebin.com/usdjXmDB
[15:54] <TTGRULES> its around 50C
[15:54] <desti> look in your system bios for the tempertures
[15:55] <Lalon> TTGRULES,  too hot
[15:55] <TTGRULES> the sys bios doesn't give a chipset temp..
[15:55] <TTGRULES> it has a northbridge and a southbridge...
[15:55] <TTGRULES> and I can't tell which one it thinks is 127C
[15:55] <Lalon> TTGRULES,  then try to put a air cooler inside ur machine
[15:55] <Lalon> :D
[15:55] <_UsUrPeR_> if I could get some help with this, I would appreciate it. I am going to do an MD5sum on the .iso, but when I check the CD to ensure that it is correct, it says the CD has no problems
[15:55] <cmpsalvestrini> TTGRULES: it's possible that the heatsink is not properly secured to the CPU, or that there is not enough goo between them.
[15:55] <mneptok> TTGRULES: you should ask in #hardware, or contact the mobo manufacturer. this is not an Ubuntu issue.
[15:55] <TTGRULES> I did.. it went down to 109C
[15:56] <TTGRULES> It looks like it reads the sensor as ferenheight.. or just reads it wrong...
[15:56] <TTGRULES> its cool to the touch..
[15:56] <w00tw00t> hi how do I disable the password prompt (to unlock keyring) whenever i connect to my wireless network (wpa psk)?
[15:56] <TTGRULES> but the computer doesn't say so...
[15:57] <cmpsalvestrini> TTGRULES: and... 109C is *way* hot, that's the boiling point of water. It's more likely that it's reporting in Fahrenheit
[15:57] <TTGRULES> yeah....
[15:57] <TTGRULES> is there any way I can edit the shutdown temp
[15:57] <desti> but ubuntu does not reboot your system when lm_sesnors detect high temps
[15:57] <w00tw00t> hi how do I disable the password prompt (to unlock keyring) whenever i connect to my wireless network (wpa psk)?
[15:57] <TTGRULES> then how does it get the temp
[15:57] <TTGRULES> the log says... critical system temperature reached 127C... shutting down
[15:58] <Lalon> TTGRULES,  where u from
[15:58] <desti> i might be an acpi event thats initiated by your system bios
[15:58] <TTGRULES> is there a way I can set the shutdown temp to be higher?
[15:59] <TTGRULES> ok... im kind of new to this.. but whats acpi?
[15:59] <Error404NotFound> i am copying some really huge files, around 200G and my system load is going crazy: http://pastebin.com/cGzCDpM6
[15:59] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[15:59] <surfereddie> Hello world of ubuntu
[16:00] <profxavier> i would like to use my Ubuntu box as a mail server, for alerts and notifications, how can I do this [a link/URL is sufficient] ?
[16:00] <desti> acpi is some kind of hardware information and controlling interface
[16:00] <ShapeShifter499> I was following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonHD     and I need the latest kernel from here---> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/      what would be the latest stable kernel?
[16:00] <Oer> !acpi
[16:00] <Pici> profxavier: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[16:00] <profxavier> thx Pici :D
[16:01] <Lalon> !acpi
[16:01] <profxavier> do you recommend a certain server over another ?
[16:01] <Pici> profxavier: The default mta for Ubuntu is postfix, Its pretty easy to setup.
[16:02] <profxavier> Pici, lets see if it works, and is able to send to my external email addresses "D
[16:02] <cmpsalvestrini> TTGRULES: Probably tweaking on lm-sensors config file? I've never encountered any problems.
[16:02] <TTGRULES> why would it shut down?
[16:03] <TTGRULES> and is it normal for a chipset to run at over 100C?
[16:04] <TTGRULES> if I convert 109 from ferenheight to celsius its around 42 degrees.. is that a better estimate?
[16:04] <w00tw00t> i found it:  http://www.eteanga.ie/solution-to-ubuntu-904-enter-password-for-default-keyring-to-unlock/
[16:04] <aronaliaga> hola
[16:04] <aronaliaga> q tal?
[16:04] <Oer> TTGRULES, i think you should check the bios
[16:04] <_UsUrPeR_> TTGRULES: It is not normal for a computer to operate above 100C, and I believe that your PC is being measured in celcius
[16:04] <aronaliaga> algun español?
[16:04] <aronaliaga> por aqui?
[16:05] <_UsUrPeR_> because 149 Ferenheit is a nice nominal temp
[16:05] <Oer> !es | aronaliaga
[16:05] <Solow-laptop> How do I install a .bin file? I downloaded java jdk, I need it for netbeans.
[16:05] <_UsUrPeR_> TTGRULES: emergency shutdown parameters pertaining to temp are located in your BIOS
[16:05] <_UsUrPeR_> TTGRULES: however, if your PC is operating at a temp which shuts it down, there are larger issues for you to mitigate.
[16:06] <TTGRULES> does anyone know why my computer would say that the chipset is running at a temperature higher than the boiling point of water and ubuntu is shutting down.. when I can touch the passive heatsync and its mildly warm?????
[16:06] <xangua> Solow-laptop: botj sun java and open jdk are in repositories
[16:06] <xangua> both*
[16:06] <TTGRULES> the ubuntu sensors....
[16:06] <TTGRULES> not the bios
[16:06] <surfereddie> Can anybody tell me where I can see the actual key NX server is looking for?
[16:06] <TTGRULES> the bios doesn't show a chipset temp monitor...
[16:06] <xangua> sun java is in parthner's
[16:06] <Solow-laptop> xangua, and, what's the package na,e?
[16:06] <xangua> !partner | Solow-laptop
[16:06] <_UsUrPeR_> TTGRULES: where is your server located? Is it in an enclosed space? When is the last time you opened the computer case and cleaned it out? Dust can cause a lot of issues pertaining to hear retention
[16:06] <xangua> ans ubuntu-restricted-extras will install openjdk Solow-laptop
[16:07] <Oer> !lmsensors
[16:07] <TTGRULES> it says that the sensor is a thermal diode and that its running currently at 109C
[16:07] <Solow-laptop> got it thanks
[16:07] <hylian> anyone know of a program like siw for linux thats gives system info?
[16:07] <Micheal`> is this a new system TTGRULES
[16:07] <Oer> hylian sysinfo
[16:07] <Oer> !sysinfo
[16:08] <Solow-laptop> I forgot one thing, is there a shortcut to bring up the desktop? (minimzie everything)
[16:08] <Solow-laptop> minimize*
[16:08] <Oer> sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[16:08] <hylian> Oer thank you!
[16:09] <cutiyar> my ubuntu do not reading dvd?
[16:09] <_UsUrPeR_> TTGRULES: you need to answer questions that people are asking you so that we may help. Is your system brand new? If it is not, when is the last time you opened it up and cleaned out the dust?
[16:10] <rizzuh_laptop> Why does the Ubuntu download page say 64-bit is not recommended for daily desktop usage?
[16:11] <Oer> cutiyar, maybe the dvd is encrypted, but there is a solution https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multimedia see the dvd part
[16:11] <rizzuh_laptop> 64-bit OS's are generally more efficient than 32-bit, unless you're kinda memory tight (<2GB).
[16:11] <cutiyar> Oer, all type not just one dvd
[16:12] <Pici> cutiyar: Did you read the information that ubottu gave you earlier?
[16:12] <philinux> rizzuh_laptop: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940 see post #62
[16:12] <cutiyar> pici, i couldnt understand , but know what i mean?
[16:12] <Oer> cutiyar, css decryption does not work for *all dvd
[16:13] <cutiyar> Oer, ???
[16:13] <AnxiousNut> how can i use sed to remove everything comes after a '?' in a file till the next line? sed s/?//g MyText.txt but this only takes the ? out!
[16:13] <rizzuh_laptop> philinux, ahh, okay, that's a very good explanation, thanks for the link!
[16:14] <philinux> rizzuh_laptop: I do hope they change the wording
[16:14] <CQ> hello, anyone using backupninja here? I have two removable drives that I want to back up different stuff to, one using rdiff the other rsync... but both are not always mounted. I know I can write scripts to stop the actions, but if the first one fails, backupninja never gets to the second possible backup ... any ideas?
[16:16] <cutiyar> pici, what i see there?
[16:16] <Pici> AnxiousNut: s/\?.*$//g
[16:16] <rizzuh_laptop> philinux, it was fine for like 9.10 or 9.04, 32-bit was generally recommended and 64-bit "may provide additional capabilities for compatible hardware" - that was okay, not great, but okay
[16:17] <Pici> cutiyar: What part of the page do you not understand?
[16:17] <rizzuh_laptop> philinux, though you'd be hard pressed to find a system manufactured today that can run Ubnutu 32-bit but not 64-bit.
[16:17] <cutiyar> PICI, U KNOW i mean in my question?
[16:18] <AnxiousNut> Pici, :) thanks a lot! it works!
[16:18] <Pici> cutiyar: No. I don't understand.
[16:19] <cutiyar> Pici, when i put the dvd the dvd will show in Desktop , and i think its not running in cd/dvd writer
[16:19] <cutiyar> pici will not show
[16:19] <smallfoot-> Mac OS X uses modern GPT, Windows and Ubuntu uses legacy MBR. When will Ubuntu use modern GPT?
[16:19] <Pici> cutiyar: Are you trying to watch a movie dvd? Please provide details of what is happening and what you would like to happen instead.
[16:20] <heoa> How can I change boot order from Grup-cli?
[16:20] <AnxiousNut> Pici, do you have a tutorial or something for sed, i would like to learn how to use it professionally!
[16:20] <cutiyar> Pici , no iam trying to see the another dvd not video ,
[16:20] <_iTroll> hey guys, anyone know if there is any code snippet organizing software in the repos?
[16:21] <cmpsalvestrini> err... GPT, smallfoot-?
[16:21] <CQ> AnxiousNut: look for tutorials on regular expressions, those are used in many many programs from sed to perl to open office search and replace functions... if you learn those, you can do whatever you need
[16:21] <monkey_dust> GPT = Guid partition table
[16:21] <cutiyar> Pici, when u put the dvd the icon should shown in Desktop but my ubuntu dont
[16:21] <AnxiousNut> CQ, Oh! thanks for the info i guess
[16:22] <cmpsalvestrini> monkey_dust: thank you
[16:22] <Pici> cutiyar: Can you read CDs?
[16:22] <cipher42> what is the latest kernel?
[16:22] <cutiyar> Pici,No
[16:22] <philinux> cipher42: for which version of ubuntu?
[16:22] <cipher42> lucid
[16:22] <cipher42> I'm on 2.6.32-24-generic
[16:23] <cipher42> is that right?
[16:23] <philinux> Thats the one
[16:23] <cipher42> kool thanks
[16:24] <travis2> i have a problem with ubuntu, i messed up some settings, so i made new account, and i tried deleting the old account, and no matter what i do, i cant delete it
[16:25] <cipher42> just take the user out of /etc/passwd
[16:26] <Pici> cutiyar: Can you pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab please?
[16:27] <travis2> what do i remove from passwd?
[16:27] <travis2> there is a whole bunch of text
[16:27] <hrhrhr_> remove the entire line
[16:28] <{C}ronos> Hi I am trying to recover data on a bad HDD. If I use gddrescue, should i first use 'Test Disk' to see if i can recover a partition? Or just not touch until I get the image of the drive. I
[16:28] <travis2> that starts with the user name?
[16:28] <hrhrhr_> yup
[16:28] <hrhrhr_> ctrl+k
[16:28] <hrhrhr_> might be worth removing it from the shadow file too
[16:28] <cutiyar> Pici, command not found
[16:28] <BedMan> pico you mean?
[16:29] <Pici> cutiyar: What command?
[16:29] <Pici> BedMan: no :P
[16:29] <AnxiousNut> my gnome-termenal became colored, how can i make it as before? It Myname@Mycomputer is now in light green!
[16:29] <travis2> do i have to open it with sudo?
[16:29] <hrhrhr_> yup
[16:29] <Pici> travis2: The best way to delete a user would be to use the deluser command.
[16:29] <cutiyar> Pici, what i have to paste to u?
[16:29] <popey> AnxiousNut: right click the terminal window and choose profiles, its in there
[16:29] <cipher42> put the disk in a plastic bag, and then into th freezer
[16:30] <cipher42> after a day remove it and try to use it before it cools off
[16:30] <cipher42> trust me it works
[16:30] <Pici> cutiyar: Open /etc/fstab in your favorite editor and paste the contents to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[16:31] <travis2> some reason, i get this:Warning: group `travis' has no more members.
[16:31] <travis2> userdel: user travis is currently logged in
[16:31] <travis2> /usr/sbin/deluser: `/usr/sbin/userdel travis' returned error code 8. Exiting.
[16:31] <AnxiousNut> popey, not the whole text, only apart of it! It bacame just like Linux Mint's default!
[16:31] <cutiyar> pici,http://pastebin.com/LqK5sQWG
[16:31] <sipior> travis2: well then, you see the problem, i guess :-)
[16:31] <heoa> Which thing controls the device by which to boot a comp? ie boot from CD or hard-disk?
[16:31] <travis2> the user isnt logged in though
[16:31] <AnxiousNut> popey, currently configured to be black on white
[16:32] <popey> AnxiousNut: what did you change?
[16:32] <travis2> i never logged into it
[16:32] <chapmage> heoa, the BIOS is what controls the boot order
[16:32] <AnxiousNut> popey, nothing, i think there is a package that enabled this thing!
[16:32] <sipior> travis2: what does "who" report?
[16:33] <heoa> chapmage: if I get into GRUP setup, can I get booting from CD?
[16:33] <Pici> cutiyar: does   ls /dev/sr0    report anything?
[16:33] <travis2> travis2  tty8         2010-07-28 11:18 (:0)          travis2  pts/2        2010-07-28 11:30 (:0.0)
[16:33] <sipior> travis2: and the account you're trying to remove is just called "travis"?
[16:34] <travis2> yes
[16:34] <sipior> travis2: does the "--force" option to deluser help?
[16:34] <jalal_> where is boston mass channel pls?
[16:34] <cutiyar> Pici, ,http://pastebin.com/50trR691
[16:35] <cutiyar> Pici,
[16:35] <cutiyar> http://pastebin.com/50trR691
[16:35] <Pici> cutiyar: Yes, I saw it. One moment.
[16:35] <Pici> jalal_: Ubuntu's Massachusetts Loco channel is #ubuntu-us-ma
[16:35] <travis2> when i put --force before deluser, it says invalid option --'-'
[16:36] <jalal_> pici Thank you
[16:36] <sipior> travis2:  try putting it after :-)
[16:36] <travis2> ok
[16:36] <Pici> cutiyar: And this is a built-in drive? Not a usb cdrom drive?
[16:36] <travis2> it said the same thing
[16:37] <cutiyar> Pici, i dont know what u mean?
[16:37] <sipior> travis2: you're typing "sudo deluser --force travis"?
[16:37] <travis2> yes
[16:38] <Pici> cutiyar: What does ls /media/   report?
[16:38] <sipior> travis2: try just "sudo userdel -f travis"
[16:38] <travis2> it says this: userdel: user travis is currently logged in
[16:38] <cutiyar> Pici, just reading my usb nothing else
[16:39] <travis2> should i restart, then try again?
[16:39] <nullvariable> ok can anyone help with gnome issue? I can't switch window focus with the mouse or alt-tab
[16:40] <sipior> travis2: might as well. or just edit the damned password file directly.
[16:40] <nullvariable> and that's after rebooting a few hundred times and purging the gdm ubuntu-desktop packages
[16:40] <picard1421> im looking for the smallest distro of ubuntu that uses command line.. no GUI.. what would that be?
[16:40] <gdoteof> can you guys see this?  i just loaded up empathy and i can't doing a /j #anything
[16:40] <abhijit> !server | picard1421
[16:40] <philinux> picard1421: ubuntu minimal
[16:40] <travis2> ok ill restart first, then ill try the password file if it doesnt word
[16:40] <travis2> work
[16:40] <gdoteof> !server | gdoteof
[16:41] <picard1421> the ubuntu server is minimal?
[16:41] <xangua> no
[16:41] <wollex> huhu
[16:41] <abhijit> !bot | gdoteof
[16:41] <philinux> picard1421: ubuntu minimal is 10mb then install what you need.
[16:41] <wolle_afk> wrong channel
[16:41] <Pici> cutiyar: okay, we're going to try to mount the cdrom drive manually.  If that works then we can set it up to do so automatically.  run: sudo mkdir /media/cdrom
[16:41] <picard1421> i see an ubuntu minimal desktop?
[16:42] <picard1421> is that what i want or the server version?
[16:42] <econdudeawesome> Looooooot of people stay in #ubuntu--how many are action I wonder?
[16:42] <cutiyar> picard1421, ok?
[16:42] <philinux> picard1421: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[16:42] <cutiyar> Pici, ok?
[16:42] <picard1421> KK thanks.. also one more question.. what are the main differences between Gnome and KDE?
[16:42] <picard1421> like Ubuntu vs Kubuntu?
[16:43] <nullvariable> no suggestions on troubleshooting the window manager?
[16:43] <bt4> like ubuntu VS backtrack ?
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[16:43] <Amway> how to mount Shared Folder ?
[16:43] <Pici> cutiyar: Then run sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom
[16:43] <philinux> picard1421: google gnome vs kde you will get a lot of hits
[16:43] <adamkex> picard1421: they are two completely different desktop enviroments, they use different programs, KDE uses QT4, GNOME uses GTK
[16:44] <madmax_x> hey all
[16:44] <picard1421> what is better for which?
[16:44] <econdudeawesome> !mount | Amway
[16:44] <picard1421> i assume they both support Wine.. which will have more programs and whatnot?
[16:44] <travis2> sipior: when i restarted, it was gone, so thanks for the help
[16:44] <adamkex> picard1421: it's a matter of preference, blue vs red
[16:44] <cutiyar> pici. http://pastebin.com/hChki3VW
[16:44] <sipior> travis2: glad it's finally working for you
[16:44] <philinux> picard1421: thought you wanted a minimal install
[16:44] <picard1421> this is for another PC
[16:44] <philinux> ah
[16:44] <cutiyar> pici,sorryyyyyyyyyyy
[16:45] <philinux> picard1421: preference yes they both achieve the same thing
[16:45] <madmax_x> how do i create a shortcut to genome terminal that opens in a specific folder...more importantly i have an app that id i create a shortcut to the binary it says "please change to the directory before running)
[16:45] <werjeo> Fuck you motherfuckers
[16:45] <werjeo> Fuck you motherfuckers
[16:45] <picard1421> ahh kk
[16:45] <adamkex> picard1421: you can install all programs on both, they just come with different from the begining
[16:45] <Pici> cutiyar: Don't type 'run.'
[16:46] <picard1421> yea im not sure i was thinking EIther going Ubuntu 10.4 or trying to setup a Gnome enviornment in Arch Linux.. still deciding which to do
[16:46] <cutiyar> Pici, http://pastebin.com/bTnPRxEx
[16:46] <philinux> picard1421: is this a modern machine
[16:47] <picard1421> yes..
[16:47] <philinux> no worries then
[16:47] <picard1421> well its more for testing.. for a company
[16:47] <philinux> picard1421: try them both
[16:47] <adamkex> picard1421: that's up to you, i don't use arch anymore, i am giving ubuntu a swing right now, otherwise i use gentoo. if you want "optimizations" then go for gentoo.
[16:47] <Pici> cutiyar: Is your cd/dvd in your drive right now?
[16:47] <picard1421> its a $15,000 machine they are letting me play with before they actually use it i get it for a month
[16:47] <adamkex> picard1421: if not go for ubuntu, if you want nothing installed from the begining use the mini iso
[16:47] <cutiyar> Pici, yup
[16:48] <picard1421> yea ubuntu seems to have support and really good architecture ... im just comming over from Unix.. so... it seems wayyy more fun to say the least
[16:48] <econdudeawesome> picard1421 which are you coming from? Windows or Mac?
[16:48] <picard1421> Unix
[16:49] <adamkex> picard1421: you can always reinstall linux if you don't like it
[16:49] <picard1421> well i have BOth Windows and Mac at my house..
[16:49] <user_> anybody knows when nvidia 256.35 drivers will be avaiable in "hardware drivers"?
[16:49] <picard1421> my house is just run off a VM server cloud..
[16:49] <picard1421> i have 1 medium sized server
[16:49] <picard1421> and
[16:49] <picard1421> 4 "home made" thin clients built into a monitor (rip off Imac's)
[16:49] <Pici> cutiyar: Could you please open then close your cdrom drive and then pastebin the result of: dmesg   ?
[16:49] <Pici> !enter
[16:50] <econdudeawesome> picard1421 then my opinion will not matter :-D but for me, as a techie, and my wife, as a nontechie, Ubuntu has been great. I really like Lubuntu remix--looks okay, very light impact
[16:50] <picard1421> and then i just install whatever i feel like.. wether it be mac, windows, unix, w.e. it is ...
[16:50] <adamkex> picard1421: go for ubuntu (mini iso or not) or gentoo if you want "optimizations"
[16:51] <adamkex> picard1421: gentoo is more unix-ish
[16:51] <bt4> Could you please open then close your cdrom drive and then pastebin the result of: dmesg   ?
[16:51] <econdudeawesome> picard1421 so it really just matters what you got for ya. If you enjoy playing with linux in general, maybe fedora or debian is up your alley
[16:51] <picard1421> the only thing i guess.. i know they have "wine"... how realisitic is that... my work needs me to use Outlook (idk why).. i wanted to use Zimbra.. but they insist on outlook clients.. (i know you can hook em up.. but still) is wine really useable?
[16:51] <econdudeawesome> picard1421 you can check out winehq for compatibility. I've found that to be an accurate source of info
[16:51] <econdudeawesome> !wine | picard1421
[16:51] <picard1421> hmm i might have to check out gentoo for a transistion os then.. thanks adamkex
[16:52] <adamkex> picard1421: i don't know how well outlook is supported, if you really need it and doesn't worh then google for crossover office
[16:52] <cutiyar> Pici, http://pastebin.com/1Av5S4He
[16:52] <adamkex> picard1421: work*
[16:52] <docmur> is there away to get gnome on Karamic Server
[16:52] <_johnny> hi, i'm trying to compile the following: http://pastebin.com/Mwg0TG78 but i get "roundup.c:(.text+0xd): undefined reference to `lrint'", only when i compile it in ubuntu. anyone have an idea as to why? my compile string is: gcc -o roundup roundup.c
[16:52] <geri> hi is there a packet tinyos-2.1.0 in ubuntu?
[16:52] <adamkex> docmur: try installing ubuntu-desktop
[16:52] <docmur> it's complainnig about not letting me install gnome-vfs
[16:52] <econdudeawesome> docmur sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop would do it
[16:52] <zenix> Hi, I wonder when I sit in airports / cafe and the like. In Windows is set to "public places", and thus that this is not "trusted" connection. The opposite of the "home network" that is "trusted" in Windows. Is there a setting on this in ubuntu? (When you connect to wireless networks).
[16:53] <adamkex> docmur: don't use apt-get, use aptitude instead
[16:53] <picard1421> is crossover better than Wine?
[16:53] <econdudeawesome> adamkex what is the difference with that?
[16:53] <Pici> cutiyar: This is a USB cdrom drive?
[16:53] <AnxiousNut> why cant the following command work? gksu nautilus  --no-desktop /
[16:53] <geri> hi is there a packet tinyos-2.1.0 in ubuntu?
[16:53] <cutiyar> pici, what?
[16:53] <adamkex> econdudeawesome: as far as i have understood aptitude supports dependancies better
[16:53] <mustelo> how can I specify boot parameters to the installer on a standard desktop install disk? do I need the alternate disk?
[16:54] <Pici> cutiyar: Does this drive connect to your computer with a USB cable?
[16:54] <econdudeawesome> adamkex I thought apt-get is a branch of aptitude, and uses the same code?
[16:54] <cutiyar> pici, yes with my ipod
[16:54] <econdudeawesome> adamkex or at lease the same thing...
[16:54] <rww> aptitude will actually tell you why something's uninstallable due to dependency problems, whereas apt-get will just spit out basic, useless, information and give up.
[16:54] <rww> If you don't have dependency problems, they're pretty much the same.
[16:54] <adamkex> econdudeawesome: it's not the same thing, it's a different frontend to dpkg
[16:54] <geri> is there a packet tinyos-2.1.0 in ubuntu?
[16:55] <rww> (on the command-line, anyway)
[16:55] <econdudeawesome> adamkex ah
[16:55] <_johnny> some c programmer please?
[16:55] <adamkex> econdudeawesome: listen to rww
[16:55] <geri> wrong chan;)
[16:55] <rww> geri: no, and considering that tinyos looks to be an OS, that's not really surprising
[16:55] <Pici> _johnny: C support is in ##C, you'll need to register to join there.
[16:55] <Pici> !register > _johnny
[16:55] <_johnny> geri: no, it's only an ubuntu issue
[16:55] <geri> rww, but there is a package in debian
[16:55] <geri> how that comes?
[16:55] <rww> geri: named "tinyos"? no there isn't
[16:55] <geri> yes
[16:55] <rww> geri: no: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=tinyos
[16:56] <geri> rww, http://docs.tinyos.net/index.php/Installing_TinyOS_2.1
[16:56] <geri> its metioned here
[16:56] <abhijit> _johnny, try in #c
[16:56] <econdudeawesome> rww but I like my basic, useless info ;-) What is the aptitude equivalent command for apt-get update && apt-get upgrade>
[16:56] <rww> econdudeawesome: aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade
[16:56] <_johnny> ok, thanks
[16:56] <rww> you can use upgrade too, but it's deprecated
[16:56] <adamkex> econdudeawesome: aptitude searches, apt-get doesn't
[16:56] <Pici> cutiyar: Please try: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sdd /media/cdrom
[16:56] <econdudeawesome> rwww and for apt-get dist-upgrade?
[16:56] <rww> geri: no, that's a repository for Debian. It's not part of debian
[16:56] <Pici> adamkex: Thats what apt-cache is for.
[16:56] <arvind_khadri> econdudeawesome, you can use dist-upgrade, thats better
[16:56] <picard1421> is mini ubuntu a 2.4 kernel or 2.6?
[16:57] <adamkex> Pici: i know
[16:57] <rww> econdudeawesome: full-upgrade or dist-upgrade, second is deprecated
[16:57] <geri> rww, ??
[16:57] <geri> rww, they do: sudo apt-get install tinyos-2.1.0
[16:57] <picard1421> or ubuntu 10.4 in general 2.4 kernel or 2.6
[16:57] <econdudeawesome> rww I'm unfamiliar with the term: deprecacted?
[16:57] <adamkex> econdudeawesome: not used, old
[16:57] <arvind_khadri> picard1421, 2.6
[16:57] <cutiyar> Pici, http://pastebin.com/BduUgX6C
[16:57] <picard1421> kk thnks
[16:57] <abhijit> !mini | picard1421
[16:57] <adamkex> econdudeawesome: steam engines are deprecated
[16:57] <rww> econdudeawesome: Deprecated means that it's still supported, but recommended that you use another way because it may be removed in the future.
[16:57] <rww> s/supported/available/
[16:58] <Pici> cutiyar: Then your disc is already mounted in the location mentioned.
[16:58] <Pici> cutiyar: It should show up as 'New Volume'
[16:58] <econdudeawesome> adamkex steam engines have made leaps and bounds in recent years as people look to move off oil :-D
[16:58] <phanindra> i am trying to install ubuntu from usb drive, while installing i got an error that "Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO". What shall i do?
[16:58] <adamkex> econdudeawesome: hehehe, you know what i mean ;)
[16:58] <cutiyar> Pici,  its my ipod
[16:58] <cablop> which is the ubuntu firewall?
[16:58] <Pici> geri: They also add a new repository in the first step.
[16:58] <rww> ubottu: ufw | cablop
[16:59] <abhijit> !unetbootin | phanindra
[16:59] <econdudeawesome> rww is full-upgrade not recommended, as it may install packages with broken dependencies?>
[16:59] <cablop> thanks rww
[16:59] <Pici> cutiyar: Please try: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sdc /media/cdrom
[16:59] <aronaliaga> hola
[16:59] <aronaliaga> alguien me ayuda?
[16:59] <cutiyar> pici , i will remove my ipod and i will try
[16:59] <aronaliaga> es una duda q tengo
[16:59] <Pici> !es | adamkex
[17:00] <Pici> adamkex: sorry, mistab.
[17:00] <erkan^> Touchpad: I switch from a touchpad: FN + F10. My question: Can I use FN + F10 at startup applications preferences to set that next time I re-type FN + 10? If so, what name or command?
[17:00] <Error404NotFound> when i set the properties on gnome-panel to be solid color and max transparent, why doesn't the region behind "Application-Places-System" go transparent as well?
[17:00] <geri> pici i need to download it manually?
[17:00] <Pici> econdudeawesome: 'full-upgrade' and 'dist-upgrade' do the same thing.
[17:00] <rww> econdudeawesome: it does the same as apt-get dist-upgrade. It may remove packages to satisfy dependencies, and is thus more likely to cause problems. Neither safe-upgrade nor full-upgrade (or their apt-get equivalents) will install packages with unsatisfiable dependencies, though aptitude's output is more informative.
[17:01] <econdudeawesome> rww i see
[17:01] <FreeRunner> anyone know how to setup a proxy to tunnel all local traffic in and out of specific ports on and ubuntu server? (hope that makes sense
[17:01] <cutiyar> Pici,  no medium found
[17:01] <econdudeawesome> Pici if so, then why waste the programmers time with both? ;-)
[17:01] <madmax_x> how do i create a shortcut to genome terminal that opens in a specific folder...more importantly i have an app that id i create a shortcut to the binary it says "please change to the directory before running)
[17:02] <Pici> econdudeawesome: I don't know the rationale behind renaming that argument.
[17:02] <Pici> geri: No, just follow the directions there.  It sounds like you skipped the first few steps.
[17:02] <Pici> cutiyar: And you have a cd or dvd in that drive?
[17:02] <cutiyar> Pici, yes
[17:03] <cutiyar> Pici, i tired u so much iam so sorry but i have to
[17:03] <rww> Pici: because dist-upgrade is confusing, as comes up in here occasionally (since it's not actually used for Distribution Upgrades sometimes)
[17:03] <cutiyar> Pici, to fix it
[17:03] <rww> (or at all in Ubuntu)
[17:05] <geekette2010> does anyone know how to get the kindle reader for Linux?
[17:05] <adamkex> how good is ati driver (open and closed) these days in comparison to the closed nvidia drivers?
[17:05] <geri> whats the latest version of ubuntu? is it hardy ?
[17:05] <abhijit> hello friends
[17:05] <adamkex> 10.04 lucid lynx
[17:05] <rww> geri: lucid
[17:05] <geri> oh
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> geri:  its goes by 'date' 2010. 4th month. :)
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> !hardy
[17:06] <gafir> !lucid
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> geri:  hardy 8.04 is over 2 years old.
[17:06] <abhijit> so i am planning to completely remove ubuntu-desktop and then  reinstall it. i just need to know what thing i wll loose? i want all my data. which program i will loose?
[17:06] <geri> i am not up to date;)
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  the ubuntu-desktop package you mean? that wont remove anything..
[17:06] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, yes
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  its just a meta-package. Why are you doing this anyway?
[17:06] <xangua> abhijit: what are you trying to do¿
[17:07] <arvind_khadri> abhijit, your gnome application settings and stuff
[17:07] <xangua> more like, what do you want to do¿
[17:07] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, xangua my firefox started to run veryyyyyyyyyy slow and also all my mouse icons are messed up since i removed kubuntu-desktop. so i want to restore all that
[17:07] <abhijit> arvind_khadri, ^^
[17:07] <StefanMonov> Hi. I have a server pc with no GUI, which had a working internet connection yesterday but today it doesn't work. Can you help me fix it? It uses DHCP.
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  that would have nothing to do with *-desktop packages i imagine
[17:08] <AnxiousNut> Help, the terminal allows me to do "sudo nautilus --no-desktop" but not "gksu"!!
[17:08] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, i want clean desktop actually
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  make a new user. see if its slow for them. If its NOT.. then you just showed its a user setting/plugin thats the issue
[17:08] <adamkex> StefanMonov: type "dhclient eth0" in the server
[17:08] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, ok
[17:09] <xangua> or a lot of plugins in firefox case
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  clean 'user settings' ? if so remove the users setting dirs.. nothing at all will be removed from the USERS settings if you remove the variouys packages
[17:09] <sipior> AnxiousNut: does gksudo work?
[17:09] <StefanMonov> adamkex: I did. it's also in /etc/rc.local. doesn't help
[17:09] <subsume> Hi everyone. I sense I might have a swollen kcore. Can someone help me diagnose it?
[17:09] <adamkex> StefanMonov: check the cable
[17:09] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, how to remove all my desktop user settings in order to get new clean settings?
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  this isent windows. :)  programs dont normally 'remove' their settings. and definatly dont touch settings in the users homes.
[17:09] <abhijit> xangua, ok
[17:09] <sipior> subsume: a swollen kcore? did you hit with something?
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  delete whatever dirs/files teh settings are in, in the users home dir.
[17:09] <subsume> Maybe
[17:10] <subsume> its 750MB
[17:10] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, yah ok
[17:10] <subsume> seems exorbidant
[17:10] <AnxiousNut> sipior, yes it works but not with the nautilus command: gksudo -q nautilus --no-desktop doesnt work
[17:10] <StefanMonov> adamkex: double checked, plugged and blinking
[17:10] <adamkex> StefanMonov: do you get an error message?
[17:10] <philinux> abhijit: do you mean you want a default ubuntu desktop
[17:10] <mrjbg> hey guys
[17:10] <AnxiousNut> sipior, but it works without the --no-desktop option
[17:10] <mrjbg> I ve messed up my eclipse installation
[17:10] <StefanMonov> adamkex: no. I just can't ping anything (not even by IP address)
[17:10] <sipior> subsume: kcore isn't acutally a file. looks about right to me.
[17:11] <mrjbg> you have any idea how to fix it
[17:11] <subsume> righton
[17:11] <mrjbg> ?
[17:11] <mrjbg> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter
[17:11] <subsume> I will remove it then
[17:11] <abhijit> philinux, may be. i want my firefox and mouse icons things to be as that of when they were i installed first time lucid on my pc
[17:11] <sipior> subsume: no, don't do that.
[17:11] <StefanMonov> adamkex: well, I haven't looked for an error msg in dmesg or anything
[17:11] <subsume> its done
[17:11] <sipior> subsume: do you understand what kcore is?
[17:11] <StefanMonov> adamkex: but dhclient doesn't give an error
[17:11] <subsume> yeah its not really a file so I can delete it
[17:11] <prodcutnews> hi
[17:11] <adamkex> StefanMonov: can you ping your router?
[17:11] <n00b_> i am unable to delete a folder . i even used rm -rf but wasnt successful. moreover it is saying  Input/output error
[17:11] <philinux> abhijit: then use the default theme
[17:11] <mrjbg> guys?
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> If you dont know what 'kcore' is - well.. you proberly should be leaving it alond.
[17:11] <subsume> n00b_, remove knife from HD
[17:12] <mrjbg> any help with messed up eclipse installation
[17:12] <adamkex> n00b_: add sudo infront of your command
[17:12] <sipior> subsume: you notice that it didn't save you any space, right?
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> n00b_:  file system curruption, fsck the filesystem. or the Hd is going bad. are also posibilities
[17:12] <cmpsalvestrini> n00b_: sounds like your disc is conking heads...
[17:12] <abhijit> philinux, all that mouse theme is just messed up after removing kde. i cant just change mouse icons :(
[17:12] <subsume> sipior, heh I was joking.
[17:12] <StefanMonov> adamkex: there is no router between the server and the ISP, but there is a router between the server and our LAN, and no, I can't ping that router.
[17:12] <sipior> subsume: i guess that's better than stupid :-)
[17:12] <BKTech86> hello
[17:12] <philinux> abhijit: is this ubuntu and gnome
[17:12] <subsume> not in some courts
[17:13] <abhijit> philinux, yes
[17:13] <mrjbg> ?
[17:13]  * cmpsalvestrini loves the brotherly communion of fellow ubuntu geeks
[17:13] <philinux> abhijit: so you installed kubuntu-desktop the uninstalled kde
[17:13] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> I've installed once gcc-3.4.2 from source into /usr/local tree, what is the easiest way to remove it from there?
[17:13] <abhijit> philinux, exactly
[17:13] <philinux> hang on
[17:14] <guest__> hello.. can i get some help for windows xp here?
[17:14] <adamkex> StefanMonov: this may be a dumb question but what if eth0 is the wrong device
[17:14] <adamkex> guest__: no
[17:14] <abhijit> philinux, and after that only that firerox and mouse icon problem starts (as I guess ;)  )
[17:14] <guest__> any suggestions
[17:14] <adamkex> guest__: go to ##windows
[17:14] <arvind_khadri> guest__, ##windows
[17:14] <guest__> tahnks
[17:14] <mrjbg> hello
[17:14] <philinux> abhijit: is this lucid lynx if so http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[17:14] <mrjbg> can I get some help with ubuntu and eclipse here?
[17:14] <cmpsalvestrini> guest__: this is a Linux support channel
[17:14] <abhijit> philinux, yes this is lucid
[17:15] <abhijit> !ask | mrjbg
[17:15] <philinux> abhijit: see the link I gave
[17:15] <abhijit> philinux, yes sure
[17:15] <StefanMonov> adamkex: yesterday it was certainly the correct device, and no one has touched the pc since then. I don't know if it can automatically change its number silently though.
[17:15] <guest__> cmpsalvestrini: i know..  i am a linux user also.. just cam to ask .. thanks
[17:15] <cct> hola
[17:15] <arvind_khadri> MitsuoDeshoDesho, i guess make clean, did you do make install ??
[17:15] <n00b_> i tried fsck but it didnt work. i also tried e2fsck -b 8193 <device> but it regularly says the same message
[17:15] <philinux> abhijit: you might have missed uninstalling some kde stuff
[17:15] <cct> alguien español
[17:15] <guest__> cam= came
[17:15] <ZykoticK9> !es | cct
[17:15] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> arvind_khadri: I did, into /usr/local
[17:16] <mrjbg> When I start Eclipse I get: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter
[17:16] <mrjbg> Can Anyone help ?
[17:16] <krambiorix> hi guys, i bought myself a wireless mouse (Microsoft) but sometimes it crashes. What could be the problem?
[17:16] <cmpsalvestrini> guest__: I'm sure that there will be other friendly and charming people over at #windows
[17:16] <arvind_khadri> MitsuoDeshoDesho, then you need to see the README , it will instructions about uninstalling
[17:16] <abhijit> philinux, yes looks like that. i first done sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop after that i removed some kde aps manually but after that till today there is .kde folder in my /home folder. each time i delte it the next login it is there again :(
[17:16] <n00b_> mrjbg: how did you install it
[17:16] <adamkex> StefanMonov: something wrong with the ISP?
[17:16] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> arvind_khadri: thanks, I'll take a look
[17:16] <arvind_khadri> MitsuoDeshoDesho, make uninstall or make clean will help :)
[17:16] <guest__> cmpsalvestrini: .. thanks.. just came to ask the name of a channel.. geez  :)
[17:16] <abhijit> mrjbg, jfy there is channel #eclipse
[17:17] <mrjbg> n00b_: it was working ok then I tried to install an UML plugin ......
[17:17] <philinux> abhijit: that link should remove all of it except the stuff in home
[17:17] <StefanMonov> adamkex: still haven't called them, will do.
[17:17] <StefanMonov> thanks
[17:17] <cmpsalvestrini> guest__: people here are a bit... erm... peculiar?
[17:17] <abhijit> philinux, ok. my all imp data in /home
[17:17] <adamkex> StefanMonov: you're welcome, sorry that i could not help
[17:17] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> arvind_khadri, I think make uninstall says something about not being available in the current tre
[17:17] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> e
[17:17] <n00b_> i tried fsck but it didnt work. i also tried e2fsck -b 8193 <device> but it regularly says the same message
[17:18] <abhijit> philinux, brb
[17:18] <n00b_> to try e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> n00b_:  i hope you got some backups
[17:18] <arvind_khadri> MitsuoDeshoDesho, oh ok, read the documentation first, also try asking in #gcc once.
[17:18] <blendmaster1024> I have a rather serious problem: in one of my two ubuntu installs on my laptop, the one I use, the network manager icon ALWAYS says "networking disabled". period, no matter how much I restart NM. any idea what could cause this?
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> n00b_:  what filesystem is the data on? ext2/3/4?
[17:18] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> arvind_khadri, I will.
[17:19] <ZykoticK9> n00b_, an I/O error may indicate a failing drive.  In a terminal type "dmesg" and see if your kernel is see lots of I/O errors.  Best of luck, and i agree with Dr_Willis backup statement above.
[17:20] <blendmaster1024> n00b_: make that "dmesg | tail"
[17:20] <krambiorix>  i bought myself a wireless mouse (Microsoft) but sometimes it crashes (as in stops working). What could be the problem?
[17:20] <ZykoticK9> blendmaster1024, right click on network icon, "enable networking" ?
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  theres some 'tools' that may help you in recovering the data from the partition. but it will take some work. and is not guarenteed
[17:20] <Micheal`> krambiorix, bluetooth or rf?
[17:20] <blendmaster1024> ZykoticK9: I didn't know you could do that ... I thought something in /etc was shut off :P
[17:20] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, i think you mean n00b_ ;)
[17:21] <n00b_> Dr_Willis: i dnt knw the file sys . it is saying   folder(inode/dir)
[17:21] <blendmaster1024> ZykoticK9: yep, looks like it.
[17:21] <racerd> zykotick9 | hey
[17:21] <blendmaster1024> ZykoticK9: thanks, rebooting back to the good install now
[17:21] <ZykoticK9> racerd, hey?
[17:21] <ZykoticK9> blendmaster1024_, glad to help ;)
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> n00b_:  the fsck command should of mentioned it.. you are not trying to use fsck.ext3 on a ntfs or vfat partition are you?
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> n00b_:  or check 'sudo fdisk -l' output.
[17:21] <mrjbg> n00b_: how to remove completely eclipse from ubuntu ?
[17:21] <krambiorix> Micheal`, i guess rf, it comes with a usb receiver...
[17:21] <madmax_x> how do i create a shortcut to genome terminal that opens in a specific folder...more importantly i have an app that id i create a shortcut to the binary it says "please change to the directory before running)
[17:22] <mrjbg> I suppose if I remove all files and then reinstall it
[17:22] <mrjbg> it should work right?
[17:22] <econdudeawesome> Does anyone know where elinks saves downloaded files to by default?
[17:22] <racerd> zykotick9 | I am about intstall windows on another drive.  It is grub i want to install after that right?
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> madmax_x:  i think 'gnome-terminal' can take command line options for that.
[17:22] <madmax_x> econdudeawesome, ~/Downloads
[17:22] <top> what script is called on wake from hibernation? I would like to issue some commands on resume from hibernation
[17:22] <econdudeawesome> madmax_x I checked there, but saw nothing...
[17:22] <ZykoticK9> racerd, grub1 is the older grub, what version of Ubuntu are you using (was it updated between versions?)?
[17:23] <econdudeawesome> madmax_x where would the config file be?
[17:23] <madmax_x> Dr_Willis, i tried gnome-terminal "MYPATH" didnt work
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> madmax_x:  check gnome-terminal --help for options
[17:23] <racerd> zykotick9, 10.04
[17:23] <acp_> hi, can any one suggest a wireless head set that will work for ubuntu?
[17:23] <madmax_x> Dr_Willis, duh sorry
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> madmax_x:  xterm and others can use a -c option. but i dont see that in gnome-terminal
[17:23] <n00b_> mrjbg: sudo apt-get remove
[17:23] <ZykoticK9> racerd, well so long as that wasn't upgraded from previous versions - then you are probably using grub2
[17:24] <Micheal`> krambiorix, all logi stuff i use works without an issue. alot of microsoft stuff used to be logi chips... is there any other info that might help?
[17:24] <mrjbg> lol
[17:24] <mrjbg> n00b_: I know this one
[17:24] <racerd> zykotick9, isn't there a way to check the version?
[17:24] <mrjbg> n00b_: i need to completely remove everything that has to do with eclipse
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> madmax_x:  its the -e option.. 'gnome-terminal -e cd /'
[17:24] <n00b_> mrjbg: it would be better u delete alll the files from synaptic
[17:25] <krambiorix> Micheal`, well, it after booting it works but suddenly it stops working
[17:25] <sjm> mrjbg: check the purge option of apt-get or aptitude or "remove completely" in synaptic.
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. -e seems briken
[17:25] <n00b_> mrjbg: it will help you
[17:25] <ZykoticK9> racerd, restart and see what version # is shown on the grub screen, FYI 1.7 = 2 ;)
[17:25] <econdudeawesome> Does anyone know where elinks saves downloaded files to by default?
[17:25] <djudldin> hello everybody! how is it called the "tool" in the right side of the upper bar where you can shutdown, change user etc?
[17:25] <nurv> does anybody on here use vuze?
[17:26] <ZykoticK9> !anyone > nurv
[17:26] <IdleOne> djudldin: Indicator applet session
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> madmax_x: this might work -->  gnome-terminal --command 'bash scripttocd.sh'
[17:26] <Micheal`> krambiorix, have you tried just resetting the mouse?
[17:27] <djudldin> IdleOne : how can i put back in the bar?
[17:27] <MamboKing> hello all, I'm recompiling my kernel to get iscsi-scsit built with kernel support
[17:27] <krambiorix> Micheal`, yes more than once. Sometimes it works again when i plug out and plugin the receiver
[17:27] <n00b__> i am still unable to find the filesystem
[17:27] <IdleOne> djudldin: right click on the panel > Add to panel > select indicator applet session
[17:27] <MamboKing> can anyone tell me what the difference between linux-headers-2.6.32-21 and linux-headers-2.6.32.21-generic is?  I'm currently running -generic if I cat /proc/version
[17:27] <Micheal`> krambiorix, next time rty turning just the mouse off and then back on or pull the battery and put it back in
[17:28] <mrjbg> FIXED
[17:28] <mrjbg> :)
[17:28] <djudldin> IdleOne : thanks!
[17:28] <nurv> im having an issue with vuze, i configure my firewall for port forwarding for vuze, and did the nat/firewall on vuze and it passed that, and did the upload and download speed test succesful but when i go to do a search i just get the circle and no results
[17:28] <mrjbg> THANKS!
[17:28] <mrjbg> :)
[17:28] <krambiorix> Micheal`, i tried, doesn't work :s
[17:29] <krambiorix> now i moved the receiver in another usb port and it works again, but for how long...
[17:29] <Micheal`> krambiorix, do you have alot of other wireless items around?
[17:29] <n00b__> i am still unable to find the filesystem
[17:30] <krambiorix> Micheal`, none, but my mobile is here and my printer works on bluetooth
[17:30] <Ubuntus> Can you recommend me something to record my screen and outputs it in an .AVI file?
[17:31] <caution> what's the easiest way to accept mail from my mail client and deliver it directly to the recipient without the need for an smtp server provided by someone else?
[17:32] <rww> ubottu: postfix | caution
[17:32] <rww> It's what I use, and is the default Ubuntu MTA, anyway.
[17:32] <caution> thanks
[17:34] <racerd> zykotick9 | hey i have a silent boot
[17:34] <warz> hi all, is there a utility that will show me the MD5 hash of a file?
[17:34] <warz> or checksum, or whatever it is
[17:35] <sipior> caution: you'll probably want to ensure that your ISP allows for proper reverse-dns lookups of your address, or you'll find that most of your mail does not make it to its destination.
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> !md5
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> warz:  the md5 command..
[17:35] <warz> md5sum*
[17:35] <caution> sipior: what do you mean by proper?
[17:35] <warz> thanks
[17:35] <sipior> caution: easier just to set up postfix to use your ISP's smtp as a relay.
[17:36] <sipior> caution: i mean "it works" :-)
[17:36] <willeb> Hi! i'm new to ubuntu, so be kind =P is there a linux program equivalent with frostwire and limewire?
[17:36] <Ubuntus> Gnutella
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> !frostwire | willeb
[17:37] <napsy> Hello. Is there a fix for the ugly boot splash when using ati catalyst drivers?
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> napsy:  other then disabling Plymouth you mean? :)
[17:37] <napsy> yes, ofcurse
[17:38] <sipior> caution: most places will happily hand out ip addresses, but will not maintain a reverse-lookup table, mapping ip addresses to hostnames. most smtp servers are configured not to accept mail from machines whose names don't match their addresses.
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> I found it easier to just disable it. :) but im on nvidia
[17:38] <ZykoticK9> racerd, ok then new test of grub version ;)  If you can hold down the shift key as computer starts and get grub then you have Grub2
[17:38] <caution> most?
[17:38] <caution> I didn't know that
[17:39] <sipior> caution: standard anti-spammer protocol
[17:39] <caution> are you talking about when the host name is used in the HELO though?
[17:39] <sipior> caution: yep
[17:39] <caution> I'm pretty sure you're wrong if not
[17:39] <abhijit> hello
[17:39] <abhijit> philinux, Dr_Willis, xangua thanks :)
[17:39] <caution> so the solution is not to use an invalid host name in the HELO
[17:40] <philinux> abhijit: nice one
[17:40] <sipior> caution: right, the question of how that validity is established brings us back to the reverse-dns query.
[17:42] <MonkeySpank14670> anyone around.. would like some help
[17:42] <abhijit> !ask  MonkeySpank14670
[17:42] <abhijit> !ask  | MonkeySpank14670
[17:44] <MonkeySpank14670> ok... i have a new laptop im trying to install ubuntu on... wont install through windows or boot from disk... never had problem installin on laptop before this one... specs of laptop... amd dual core m300, 3gb ram 320gb hdd
[17:44] <Raman> is there a way to configure how long GRUB takes before booting into your OS. On a Macbook.
[17:45] <phanindra> i am trying to install ubuntu using wubi, while the installation i got the error "Cannot download the metalink and thus iso". what shall i do?
[17:45] <JamaKris> gets to a kernel log screen and does not load after thtat
[17:45] <Misterio> Raman: Yes, I had configured to wait 5 secs, but was 2 years ago, so I don't remember
[17:45] <t0ken|work> anyone explain why us.archive.ubuntu.com is in london and not the US ?
[17:45] <Misterio> Raman: But yes, you can do it
[17:46] <JamaKris> ok... i have a new laptop im trying to install ubuntu on... wont install through windows or boot from disk... never had problem installin on laptop before this one... specs of laptop... amd dual core m300, 3gb ram 320gb hdd
[17:46] <sipior> Raman: you're looking for the "timeout" parameter in /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[17:46] <forceflow> sipior: isn't it different for grub2?
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> JamaKris:  disk boots on other machines? the md5 checked out? you burnt it at the slowest speed you can? Try making a bootable usb flash drive to install from?
[17:47] <sipior> forceflow: didn't think so, but i suppose it's possible. yay linux, fixing things that aren't broken.
[17:47] <JamaKris> it boots up on other machine and can install on my desktop from same disk
[17:47] <phanindra> my cd rom is not working thats why i want it to install from usb.plz help
[17:48] <JamaKris> ill copy down log error when it trys to load and last entry before it stops loading
[17:48] <JamaKris> brb
[17:49] <Raman> just confirming that there isn't a timeout parameter in grub.cfg
[17:49] <a1> "crtc 136 error" when selecting a resolution created via xrandr any help?
[17:49] <Raman> maybe I spoke too soon, found it, thanks for the help.
[17:50] <sipior> Raman: you might find this useful, in future: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[17:50] <racerd> zykotick9 | hey i have grub 1.98-1ubuntu7
[17:51] <furfur> Hi
[17:51] <furfur> Hello
[17:51] <racerd> zykotick9 | i have different kernels too.... how do i delete ones that are not really needed?
[17:51] <furfur> Hello
[17:52] <MamboKing> anyone running iscsi-scsit?
[17:52] <Misterio> !hi | furfur
[17:53] <furfur> CAn you guys help me
[17:53] <furfur> im having some problem   installing  ubuntu  in  my ibook
[17:53] <Misterio> furfur: If you ask question maybe we'll can do it
[17:53] <crux000> Silly question: If I pull in the mozilla nightly PPA to test a site with the nightly builds, does it clobber the official version?
[17:53] <AnxiousNut> ab7120001
[17:54] <AnxiousNut> oops my password
[17:54] <AnxiousNut> XD
[17:54] <sipior> AnxiousNut: time for a change, i guess
[17:55] <AnxiousNut> sipior, nah it's aint for irc
[17:55] <sipior> AnxiousNut: that's what i mean :-)
[17:55] <furfur> when i  boot   ubuntu   i type live ...  and then the   screen goes white
[17:55] <sjm> racerd, you can remove old kernels through synaptic or your favorite apt tool.
[17:55] <kopper> Hi Ubuntu users!
[17:56] <abhijit> !hi | kopper
[17:56] <racerd> you can?
[17:56] <a1> "crtc 136 error" when selecting a resolution created via xrandr any help?
[17:57] <b4nnd1t> Is there a way to disable the need to enter the Secure Attention Key (Alt+SysRq+K) at boot-up?
[17:57] <sjm> racerd, IIRC you need to search on "linux-image"
[17:57] <sjm> racerd, just make sure you don't remove the one you want to keep.
[17:58] <Randumb> is it possible to install ubuntu 10.04 server with a custom kernel on install?
[17:58] <Randumb> the default 10.04 kernel doesnt support my raid card
[17:58] <Randumb> but 2.6.33 and up does
[17:58] <b4nnd1t> Because when I boot it goes to a blank screen that requires the SAK
[17:58] <daMull> Hi folks, does someone know a SQL database system that supports double quotes around identifiers (table names, fields, schemas)?
[17:58] <furfur> any one know   why  when i try to install ubuntu the screen  goes white
[17:58] <furfur> ubuntu powerpc
[17:59] <rww> daMull: try #ubuntu-offtopic or #sql
[17:59] <sjm> Randumb, not sure, but I'd try the mini-iso for a net install that should pull the latest of everything down.
[18:00] <daMull> rww: thanks. i will.
[18:00] <esteeven> hello
[18:00] <Randumb> sjm: pull it down to where tho?   if the mini-iso doesnt see the raid card either...
[18:01] <racerd> sjm | hey what do i look for in synaptic
[18:01] <a1> anyone know how to get resolution higher than 800x600 with unknown monitor?
[18:01] <b4nnd1t> crux000, No the nightly build will be kept separate from the stable release.
[18:01] <kopper> furfur,You need to download a new iso,yours is a bad one,it will not work
[18:01] <preecher> for last 2 days i been getting the upuntu update popup notice-when i click to install the updates it starts the download and then just stops and say it take like 8 hours to download-its only a 20 meg dload -is they another way to download the update other than update manager or is it just so busy ?
[18:01] <racethesunlive> If i use the create a startup disk feature to make a bootable usb drive, will my settings save back to that drive when i change things?
[18:01] <sjm> racerd, I sent it a little earlier, I think it's "linux-image" (just make sure you leave at least the one you want to still use)
[18:02] <rww> racethesunlive: If you set the persistant option, yes.
[18:02] <racethesunlive> preecher: you can update using the command line, its 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[18:02] <rww> racethesunlive: sorry, they renamed it. The "Stored in reserved extra space" one
[18:02] <sjm> Randumb, Not sure, but I'd try it.  It's only something like a 80MB download, burn, try to install with it.
[18:02] <preecher> racethesunlive thanks-)
[18:03] <sjm> preecher, It might also be the mirror you are pointing at that is slow.  you might try changing mirrors.
[18:03] <racethesunlive> rww: i see the option but its grayed out, am i missing something?
[18:04] <JViz> i ran updates for ubuntu and now windows is gone from the bootloader
[18:04] <preecher> now i have a really lame question- i just did the sudo apt-get update and it already done--how come it work and the other no work?
[18:04] <preecher> did i get the same update?
[18:05] <racethesunlive> preecher: apt-get update, updates the list of available software
[18:05] <rww> racethesunlive: Do you have a source image and disk selected in the two boxes above it, and does the selected disk have enough free space?
[18:05] <sjm> preecher, the update just updates the list of packages, the "upgrade" is what pulls the updates down.
[18:05] <racethesunlive> preecher: the second command, apt-get upgrade, does the actual upgrading
[18:05] <IdleOne> preecher: apt-get update    updates the list of available packages now you need to sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:05] <kopper> bye
[18:05] <JamaKris> when i try to install ubuntu, it stops on this last entry while loading....[0.708248] [<c0104087>] kernel_thread_helper +0x7/0x10
[18:05] <preecher> do i need to do the upgrade even if i using 10.4 already
[18:06] <madmax_x> how do you put a timed wait in a shell script
[18:06] <Micheal`> sleep X
[18:06] <madmax_x> thanks
[18:06] <IdleOne> preecher: sudo apt-get upgrade (upgrades the packages and not the entire OS)
[18:06] <madmax_x> x = ms
[18:06] <madmax_x> ?
[18:06] <Micheal`> yeah
[18:06] <preecher> IdleOne oh ok thanks-)
[18:07] <JamaKris> when i try to install ubuntu, it stops on this last entry while loading....[0.708248] [<c0104087>] kernel_thread_helper +0x7/0x10
[18:07] <_mojo_> Hi! I have some issues regarding my multi touch screen in ubuntu netbook remix... anyone who can help me?
[18:07] <lousygarua> in openoffice formula editor, the little floating dialog with all the different symbols/functions/operators/etc disappeared and i can't find where to show it again
[18:08] <cmpsalvestrini> well friends it's been fun but I gotta dash
[18:08] <JamaKris> when i try to install ubuntu, it stops on this last entry while loading....[0.708248] [<c0104087>] kernel_thread_helper +0x7/0x10 can someone help me with this?
[18:09] <Micheal`> is there a fast way to back up my stuff on 10.04 so i can restore it on another box?
[18:09] <cannonballs> anyone able to help me with a install problem
[18:09] <JamaKris> cannon im also trying to get help with install problem
[18:09] <Micheal`> cannonballs, have you checked the media and memory?
[18:10] <cannonballs> dont know what ya mean by media, but I jave 4 gigs of ram
[18:10] <JamaKris> micheal can u help me also
[18:10] <sjm> Micheal`, what "stuff"?
[18:10] <maco> cannonballs: media = the cd or flash drive you are using to install from
[18:10] <Micheal`> user dir really
[18:10] <_mojo_> i have a problem with my touch-screen... someone who can help?
[18:10] <cannonballs> what kinda problem you having Jama>
[18:11] <JamaKris> when i try to install ubuntu, it stops on this last entry while loading....[0.708248] [<c0104087>] kernel_thread_helper +0x7/0x10 can someone help me with this?
[18:11] <JamaKris> i use this same media to install on my desktop worked fine
[18:11] <Micheal`> sjm, i just was looking for a faster way than rsync
[18:11] <sjm> Micheal`, is the other box already installed and running?  (If so, I'd use rsync across ssh)
[18:12] <maco> Micheal`: rsync's about the fastest you'll get, since it only copies the changes
[18:12] <Micheal`> sjm,  was hoping for something faster but i will live then
[18:12] <cannonballs> ok brb gonna just write down the error I get.. be much easier
[18:12] <JamaKris> micheal did you get that
[18:12] <sjm> Micheal`, I can't remember the incantation, but you could tar/gzip it to USB and then reverse it at the other end.
[18:12] <Micheal`> sjm, maco thanks
[18:13] <maco> sjm: itd be: tar zcf backup.tar.gz folder/
[18:13] <preecher> when/if i do something in terminal is it the same as when i do it by clicking on it in applications or whatever?
[18:13] <maco> preecher: generally, yes
[18:13] <preecher> maco oh ok thanks
[18:14] <maco> preecher: the "Exec=" line in the .desktop in /usr/share/applications/ that corresponds to the menu entry will tell you exactly what command matches. usually its the same. sometimes it's "gksudo <command>" (like things in the administration menu)
[18:14] <slow-motion> bye
[18:15] <saji89> !repeat>saji
[18:15] <_mojo_> anyone who can help me with my touch screen??
[18:15] <roy__> Convert any paper form to an electronic form
[18:15] <saji89> !repeat>saji89
[18:15] <acidblue> touch screen??
[18:15] <_mojo_> yes, multi touch
[18:16] <preecher> maco again thanks-i been using ubuntu about 3 years but im trying to learn much as i can
[18:16] <roy__> anyone know if ubuntu hsa an sofware where i can Convert any paper form to an electronic form
[18:16] <_mojo_> on a Packard bell Easy Note Butterfly Touch...
[18:16] <spydee32> hello, i have 64bit lucid lynx, trying to stream a wmv video online. gnome mplayer works but its buggy for me, any other way? (i tried vlc plugin and totem, not working)
[18:17] <NiCeWoLf> hey got a question how come any other network says connection refused?
[18:17] <sjm> roy__, fillable forms?  I'd try OpenOffice.
[18:18] <maco> preecher: the book "how linux works" (no starch press) might be worth reading. i havent done so, but i was flipping through it last week and figured it was perfect for the kid i was hanging out with to get beyond the gui (made sure she got a copy)
[18:19] <sjm> maco, :( you just missed him...
[18:19] <maco> doh
[18:19] <roy__> filliable form
[18:19] <sjm> roy__, I think OpenOffice can create fillable pdf forms, IIRC
[18:20] <roy__> do you know exactly where sjm
[18:21] <cannonballs> ok guys.. thanks for helping.. heres my situation
[18:21] <anAngel> Hello, can u tell me some free log analyzers that work with shorewall or iptables
[18:21] <sjm> roy__, try this: http://www.octobersystems.net/2010/07/08/howto-create-fillable-pdf-forms-with-open-office/
[18:22] <roy__> ok thanks
[18:22] <ExAstris> Hi all. Fairly stupid question, but I'm running a script through SSH. It's a .run installer and it's a sort of gui within the command line shell - yes/no buttons, etc, manipulated with arrow keys. There are [X] boxes I want to uncheck, how do I d othat? I can move up and down the list
[18:23] <ExAstris> but hitting enter moves me to the next step in the installation
[18:23] <rww> ExAstris: spacebar, possibly?
[18:23] <cannonballs> I boot w/cd.. I goto a purple screen for a few seconds, then a blank screeen with cursur blinking at top left (1-2mins) next, the purple "unbuntu" screen (2-3mins). Finishing with this on a blank screen.
[18:23] <ExAstris> that didi t
[18:23] <ExAstris> thanks
[18:23] <mgolisch> yeah space!
[18:24] <cannonballs> BusyBox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1.1.13.3-1ubuntu11)built-inshell(ash)
[18:25] <cannonballs> (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[18:25] <Raven> hello
[18:25] <monkey_dust> !hi| Raven
[18:25] <cannonballs> any Ideas?
[18:26] <MikeHoncho> Does anyone have a recommendation for a multi-threaded download manager?
[18:26] <cablop> !clipboard
[18:26] <hal_canary> I've got a quick question.  I just want sound when I get a new instant message from Empathy, but I don't want any other sounds on my system.  How do I do that?
[18:26] <cablop> any good clipboard manager for gnome? i got used to ditto-cp in windows, now i need one in linux
[18:27] <MikeHoncho> cablop:  Parcellite?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> MikeHoncho: uget is one I used to use. Not sure what multithreaded is in the context
[18:27] <Pici> cablop: glipper?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> +1 for glipper
[18:27] <Sasquatch7>  I have a simple bash script that opens a web browser. Though I want the browser to open in the background and not effect the terminal/application I'm currently using. Is this possible?
[18:27] <coz_> cablop,   how about glipper
[18:28] <coz_> cablop,   it is a panel applet i believe
[18:28] <MikeHoncho> ActionParsnip:  Looking for something that'll download a file in multi-parts at the same time.  Speeds up the download.
[18:28] <cannonballs> so...? anyone know what the "unable to find a mediuym containing a live file system" error during install could be?
[18:28] <hal_canary> Sasquatch: $browser_exevutable > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> hal_canary: set the system sound theme to none (or remove the ubuntu-sounds package). You can then set the sounds as you wish in empathy
[18:28] <hal_canary> But that didn't work.
[18:28] <coz_> cannonball,  if you are running with the live cd  then something ismost likely up with your cdrom
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Sasquatch7: add an ampersand on the end of the commands to background them
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> MikeHoncho: not heard of that
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> cannonballs: did you md5 test the iso and verify the cd?
[18:30] <cannonballs> what do you mean something wrong with my cdrom? The Drive is working fine, this is a fairly new pc
[18:30] <anAngel> Hello, can u tell me some free log analyzers that work with shorewall, iptables or any other good network analyzer programs/scripts
[18:30] <cannonballs> yes
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> cannonballs: is the install media verified in any way?
[18:30] <surfereddie> hello
[18:30] <cannonballs> I havd this problem about 6moths ago, and just gacve up
[18:31] <Sasquatch7> ActionParsnip: I have that already and it still opens and automatically redirects me into the browser window :\
[18:31] <coz_> cannonball,  ok when you run the live cd    choose the  "Check cd" option
[18:31] <cannonball> cannonballs: Nice nick :-)
[18:31] <cannonballs> haha thanks this is my mmo nick I've used for years
[18:31] <coz_> cannonballs,   use the check cd option from the live cd to be sure the cd itself is not  corrupted
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> cannonballs: when you boot the cd, press space then select check cd for defects as coz_  suggests
[18:32] <cannonballs> -->ActionParsnip I dont know
[18:32] <Micheal`> O_o! why did i have a server kernel??
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> cannonballs: I just gave you the method. The cd you burned sounds bad.
[18:32] <strangeseraph> I'm having trouble with java
[18:33] <strangeseraph> can anybody help me?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Micheal`: you install the server release or installed the kernel manually
[18:33] <coz_> cannonballs,   when burning an image   you might want to burn it at  1x  or the slowest possible speed on the application you use
[18:33] <abhijit> !ask | strangeseraph
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> !details | strangeseraph
[18:33] <cannonballs> ok I'll do the hit spacebar thing during install and see
[18:34] <coz_> cannonballs,   this will help in getting a good burn...also ...if you want " less to burn"  therefore less to corrupt...download the minimal install cd and go from there
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> cannonballs: also md5 testing the iso will tell you if the file you have downloaded is complete and consistant
[18:34] <coz_> ^^
[18:34] <Micheal`> ActionParsnip, it is very much a desktop release. and maybe it is from when i was playing with xen....
[18:35] <strangeseraph> All right. I have a chat room that I regularly visit which is on a custom in browser java chat window. It can be found here (but you have to be logged in to see it). http://forums.romancedivas.com/index.php?app=chat Its normally worked fine, but today its not displaying the custom commands and buttons correctly, and I am unable to connect fully to the chatroom
[18:35] <sjm> ActionParsnip, cannonballs just left, but if he returns, another thing that causes that is a CD drive that is recognized by the BIOS, but not the drivers on the livecd.
[18:35] <strangeseraph> this happened after an update of my computer and I'm really not sure which updates could have caused it.
[18:35] <courtni> Hi everyone, is there anyway to changa from the netbook version of ubuntu to the desktop version?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Micheal`: you could make the steps to remove the kernel/s then see what else will need to be remove (the deps). You can cancel the removal after reviewing the list by pressing n
[18:35] <gabriel_pimentel> Hi everyone
[18:36] <Micheal`> ActionParsnip, ty
[18:36] <sjm> courtni, they're basically the same except a few user interfaces, I think.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> sjm: I'm shooting for bad cd as so many people are ignorant of md5 and cd checking
[18:37] <sjm> courtni, what do you want to change?
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> !hi | gabriel_pimentel
[18:37] <sjm> ActionParsnip, I've run into that, though many a time and had to install from a usb cd drive
[18:37] <gabriel_pimentel> I have a problem with ubnutn 10.4, I cant connect to my wireless network, I have a RTL8187 chipset
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> sjm: true but still need to md5 before transferring
[18:37] <courtni> the only thing I wanted to change was the user interface actually, is there another way to do this?
[18:38] <sjm> ActionParsnip, true.  Just another troubleshooting step.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> courtni: vhange in what way?
[18:38] <perlDreamer> since updating to FF 3.6.8, all textareas are using \r\n instead of just \n as line-endings.  Google and launchpad aren't showing anything about this.  What should I do next to track this down?
[18:38] <coz_> yes it is ALWAYS  wise to check the md5 sum of an iso ...if avialable..and they are available for ubuntu
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> perlDreamer: have you tried creating a new profile?
[18:38] <gabriel_pimentel> I have a problem with ubuntu 10.4, I cant connect to my wireless network, I have a RTL8187 chipset , I can see the network but It doesnt connect
[18:39] <sjm> courtni, yes.  I did a google search to find out how to do it on mine, just a sec to see if I can find the pages...
[18:39] <warz> Hi all. I installed the Desktop version of Ubuntu, but am trying to disable the automatic bootup of Gnome. I don't want it to use that graphical login prompt, either. I can't seem to disable this. I've tried rcconf, and that did nothing.
[18:39] <warz> Any ideas?
[18:39] <perlDreamer> ActionParsnip, no.  I'm kind of partial to the current profile.
[18:39] <strangeseraph> and this is why I ask for help because I always get silence if I just ask the question.
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> perlDreamer: sure but its useful to troubleshoot don't you think. You can have more than one profile
[18:40] <coz_> strangeseraph,  if no one knows the answer...unfortunately  they simply dont resond...if that happens again ...simply repost the question...and  hang out or if it is a problem that may be linux in general  you can to to the ##linux channel :)
[18:40] <nimbiotics> Since upgrading to 10.04, i've had more than a couple of issues, some of which have already been tackled. Next one i think i must address is some error messages I can see just before the graphical interface starts, but that I cannot catch. How can I catch them so I can post them here?? TIA!
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> gabriel_pimentel: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-troubleshoot-wireless-network-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: run: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:41] <gabriel_pimentel> My connection worked fine a few days ago, now it doesnt, I have a RTL8187 chipset, I can see the network but when I try to connect It wont let me
[18:42] <sjm> courtni, I think you can just change it on login, IIRC.  After selecting your login name, change which session you want at the bottom before entering your password.
[18:42] <khider> Greetings all--I installed xubuntu on my laptop (hp6515b) and it no longer detects my wifi card via lspci. How to remedy?
[18:42] <philinux> perlDreamer: run firefox in safe mode. firefox -safe-mode can you post a screenshot of what you see.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> strangeseraph: do you have the latest java? Does java work in other pages?
[18:43] <madmax_x> gabriel_pimentel, did you compile your drivers?
[18:43] <lakowasi> When I download truecrypt I cannot extract the tar.gz file it says:unexpected end of file tar Unexpected EOF in archive tar Error is not recoverable exiting now
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> khider: run: sudo lshw -C network ,should show you stuff
[18:43] <lakowasi> what can i do?
[18:43] <strangeseraph> I have a source for java in my repository so it should always be the latest. This particular chat room requires sun java.
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> lakowasi: sounds like a bad download
[18:43] <strangeseraph> java works everywhere else yes.
[18:43] <strangeseraph> but I'll double check other java places just in case
[18:43] <khider> ActionParsnip: What about installing wifi drivers--it is hard to install drivers when it does not detect...
[18:43] <lakowasi> ActionParship: I downloaded 3 times already
[18:44] <gabriel_pimentel> the wireless car is recognized
[18:44] <perlDreamer> ActionParsnip: new profile behaves the same way
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> strangeseraph: go to www.java.com to check it is the latest
[18:44] <gabriel_pimentel> the wireless card is recognized
[18:44] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: http://dpaste.com/222837/
[18:44] <madmax_x> gabriel_pimentel, are you using the provided drivers or did you compile from source
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> perlDreamer: ok cool, sounds like a bug then. How did you install the browser?
[18:44] <perlDreamer> it's stock ubuntu
[18:45] <strangeseraph> ah! there is an update! :)
[18:45] <gabriel_pimentel> ubuntu recognizeds
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: its no use to me. I suck at xorg errors. That lot of text is you x server loading and will show issues etc
[18:45] <paco_> hola buenas tardes
[18:45] <gabriel_pimentel> ubuntu recognized it automatically, it was working fine until a few days ago
[18:45] <sebsebseb> Hi
[18:45] <strangeseraph> but why isn't it in the repository? I don't know how to use this bin thing. Ubuntu won't do anything when I double click in.
[18:45] <strangeseraph> it*
[18:45] <gabriel_pimentel> saludos paco
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> perlDreamer: try adding the mozilla ppa. The later build may cure the issue
[18:45] <paco_> me pueden ayudad ?
[18:45] <khider> ActionParsnip: It only detects the internet cable--not the wifi card when I run the command
[18:45] <paco_> saludos gabriel
[18:46] <sjm> !es | paco_
[18:46] <paco_> pueden ayudarme ?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> khider: then make sure the killswitch is set to on and reboot. You can also run: dmesg | less ,to see if its detected at boot
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> strangeseraph: no, there is a page to test java and if you have the latest version
[18:47] <paco_> alguien puede ayudarme por favor ?
[18:47] <sjm> paco_, venga a #ubuntu-es
[18:47] <oCean_> paco_: /join #ubuntu-es
[18:47] <mneptok> paco_: Ingles solamente aqui, pf
[18:47] <strangeseraph> I did that ActionParsnip and it told me to download an update. But my update sources should give me the latest. :(
[18:47] <paco_> ok gracias
[18:47] <khider> ActionParsnip: What do you mean by kill switch?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> khider: if its a clean install you should get updated. May help. Maybe there is a bug
[18:47] <mneptok> paco_: de nada
[18:48] <khider> ActionParsnip: It is a new install, just a few hours ago
[18:48] <strangeseraph> how do I install a .bin?
[18:48] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: lamo... well its going to be a whole lot less usefull for a noob like me :D
[18:48] <khider> ActionParsnip: I am updated, did not help : - (
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> strangeseraph: then you can use the .bin but you won't automagically update
[18:48] <gabriel_pimentel> My connection worked fine a few days ago, now it doesnt, I have a RTL8187 chipset, I can see the network but when I try to connect It wont let me, Can somebody help me?
[18:49] <strangeseraph> will the new updates eventually go to the repository?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> strangeseraph: there are guides around on how to use it, you basically mark it as executable and run it as user, it extracts n
[18:49] <perlDreamer> philinux: it showed me a dialog box with 6 unchecked boxes.  Then, when I continued, it showed me a default firefox browser screen
[18:49] <itsjar> hello
[18:49] <b0ot> how woudl i allow remote control of my machine in ubuntu the remote desktop preferences says i only have acces over localhost
[18:49] <perlDreamer> ActionParsnip: how do I uninstall the PPA if it doesn't change anything?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> strangeseraph: and you symlink the plugin to your browser plugins folder
[18:49] <b0ot> i want someone to be able to get there from outside
[18:49] <philinux> perlDreamer: but do site display correctly in safe-mode
[18:49] <itsjar> I'm having some problems with a new ATI graphics card on puredyne (ubuntu based), is this the right place to ask my question
[18:49] <abhijit> getting this error while attemting to update: W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openldap/libldap-2.4-2_2.4.21-0ubuntu5.1_amd64.deb
[18:49] <abhijit>   404  Not Found
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> perlDreamer: run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:50] <strangeseraph> have no idea what that means. :/
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> strangeseraph: find guides online on how to use it. The repo hasn't been updated yet so your java is old
[18:51] <abhijit> help
[18:51] <strangeseraph> seems like it'd be easier to wait for the repo update than fiddling with an installer. Thanks.
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> perlDreamer: simply adding the ppa doesn't do much, you have to tell the system to upgrade and it will pull down new stuff
[18:51] <terry_> abhijit: whith...?
[18:51] <nimbiotics> Since upgrading to 10.04, i've had more than a couple of issues, some of which have already been tackled. Next one i think i must address is some error messages I can see just before the graphical interface starts, but that I cannot catch. How can I catch them so I can post them here?? TIA!
[18:51] <perlDreamer> philinux: it's not a question of display, it's a question of how it interprets my input
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> strangeseraph: your call. Using that method is how to get native 64bit java rather than 32bit via nspluginwrapper
[18:52] <abhijit> terry_, getting this error while attemting to update: W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openldap/libldap-2.4-2_2.4.21-0ubuntu5.1_amd64.deb
[18:52] <itsjar> Did anyone have any experience with ATI HD 5xxx cards on ubuntu?
[18:52] <abhijit>   404  Not Found
[18:52] <perlDreamer> ActionParsnip, so to revert back to good old regular Firefox instead of new bleeding edge Firefox, I remove the ppa from the set of repos and update/upgrade again?
[18:52] <strangeseraph> I don't think I have a 64bit supported laptop? :/
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: change your source to the main server
[18:52] <sjm> nimbiotics, try: dmesg
[18:52] <Daekdroom> perlDreamer, you have to use ppa-purge upon the PPA repo
[18:52] <abhijit> ActionParsnip, you mean from in to main?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> perlDreamer: sure, remove ppa then reinstall the browser, you can remove firefox too then reinstall it. The settings and profile will be untouched
[18:53] <terry_> abhijit: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openldap/libldap-2.4-2_2.4.21-0ubuntu5.1_amd64.deb says 404 not found
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: in software sources under system -> admin
[18:53] <abhijit> terry_, yes
[18:53] <abhijit> ActionParsnip, no no. I mean do you mean change it from local server i.e. India server to main server?
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: yes, the one you are on is having issues / being updated so use a different one
[18:54] <abhijit> ActionParsnip, ok
[18:54] <Pici> terry_, abhijit: If you'd like, you can just wait.  It looks like the India mirror is a a few hours out of date.
[18:54] <abhijit> Pici, yes.
[18:54] <nimbiotics> sjm: http://pastebin.com/wDzVnvwy
[18:55] <fling> what is up with the java?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: change to main server then run: sudo apt-get upate; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:55] <itsjar> Guys, does anybody have any experience with  the HD 5xxx ATI graphic cards on ubuntu, if it just doesn't work I can give up and just move to an other pc I guess..
[18:55] <strangeseraph> thanks bunches anyways. :)
[18:55] <abhijit> ActionParsnip, yah ok
[18:55] <Phoenixz> Anybody knows how I can install the package wmi-client in 10.04? Supposedly hardy had it, but I cant seem to find it anywhere in 10.04. Tried google, no luck there either..
[18:55] <terry_> abhijit: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libldap-2.4-2
[18:55] <Mea> Quick question. How long would it take to "shred" a 320GB drive? Does it go sector by sector?
[18:56] <abhijit> terry_, now I changed it to main server. will look for indian server after some hours
[18:56] <fling> 32 min
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Phoenixz: could find a ppa with it on
[18:56] <fling> depnding on speed and level of shredding
[18:56] <sjm> nimbiotics, not sure what that is about, I was just helping with a way to see errors that might "disappear" when X starts up.
[18:56] <abhijit> ActionParsnip, terry_ Pici thanks :)
[18:56] <Mea> 32 mins is not too bad. So long as it doesnt take all day. Thanks fling
[18:56] <coz_> Phoenixz,  yeah I dont see that package listed for lucid at all
[18:56] <fling> an sata 320gb with 3.2ghz and 133fsb should shred it quickly
[18:57] <nimbiotics> sjm: thanks
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Mea: depends on spindle speed , seek time and many other factors like age.
[18:57] <khider> ActionParsnip: So you think this may be a kernel error, to not detect a wifi card?
[18:57] <fling> 1333*
[18:57] <anAngel> Hello, can u tell me some free log analyzers that work with shorewall, iptables or any other network analyse program/script
[18:57] <fling> and atleast 1gb ram
[18:57] <Phoenixz> ActionParsnip: looked for PPAs, no luck there either.. its weird, its just as if it disappeared
[18:57] <Unorth> msg nickserv identify unorth/89-
[18:57] <fling> 7.2krpm was my experience
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> khider: you may need a boot option or 2 to make it pickup. Check for ubuntu guides for your laptop. Users sometimes publish their methiods for others
[18:57] <abhijit> omg
[18:57] <Unorth> nice
[18:58] <Unorth> ...
[18:58] <Unorth> wrong window
[18:58] <abhijit> Unorth, change your password immidiatly
[18:58] <fling> xD
[18:58] <Unorth> lol I know...
[18:58] <Mea> Do know all that its a year old or so Compaq with Athlon 64 and 2GB of RAM and 5400RPM. Its not that dated but it is broken so I will try to sell it to someone who can fix it
[18:58] <Unorth> trying
[18:58] <khider> ActionParsnip: The laest update is 2008
[18:58] <Mea> just dont want my data to be recuverable
[18:58] <abhijit> !pm | Unorth
[18:58] <DeMolay> hi there, anyone knows how to set a permanent umask for www-data user?
[18:58] <fling> i could fix it, where u at lol
[18:58] <abhijit> Unorth, ask in #freenode
[18:58] <Mea> Im in Boston
[18:58] <Mea> Should be a bunch of MIT kids here that would want it
[18:59] <philinux> Mea: I used dd on a 120gig drive and it took a few hours.
[18:59] <fling> and the hd is fried but nothing else?
[18:59] <fling> xD
[18:59] <Mea> Uhm actually.. no the power ribbon I accidently ripped out when I opened it. because the fan stopped working correctly
[18:59] <rawrmage> Is anyone good with partitions? I accidentally made a NTFS volume think it's bigger than the partition is, but I don't know how to make the partition bigger without changing the volume like gparted wants to do.
[18:59] <fling> delete it?
[19:00] <abhijit> Unorth, /msg nickserv help set password
[19:00] <Unorth> dont worry, thanks, just done it
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> khider: update of what?
[19:00] <Unorth> lol... that was noobish :/
[19:00] <Pici> Phoenixz: It looks like wmi-client is incompatible with python2.6 and was dropped from the repositories, as discussed here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wmi/+publishinghistory
[19:00] <Unorth> anyway, thanks all, cya
[19:00] <khider> ActionParsnip: On the laptop--in terms of forum postings
[19:00] <fling> hey thre are no noobs here, we are all noobs in some fashin here
[19:00] <dury> hi there channel :)
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Mea: better than anything I have. Most of my rigs are circa 1995
[19:00] <b0ot> how does one "call out with vnc and give control" to a specific ip in ubuntu?
[19:01] <perlDreamer> ActionParsnip: PPA behaves the same way
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> khider: well, worth a shot
[19:01] <travis2_> does anyone know how to get compiz in Xubuntu 10.0
[19:01] <fling> !tremoulus
[19:01] <travis2_> 10.04
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> perlDreamer: sounds like a bug then, log a bug
[19:01] <fling> fudge
[19:01] <khider> ActionParsnip: They talk about ndiswraper and whatnot. Not much good when the wifi card is ignored.
[19:01] <abhijit> !compiz | travis2_
[19:01] <Mea> ActionParsnip: it's not a rig its a laptop.
[19:01] <Mea> ActionParsnip: though why such old hardware on your stuff?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Mea: still a rig in my book
[19:02] <fling> rig=anything that computes
[19:02] <smallfoot-> #j Wikipedia
[19:02] <khider> ActionParsnip: I even took the trouble of getting a dlink wifi card,  does not detect that either
[19:02] <smallfoot-> sry
[19:02] <rpius> Does anyone have any idea on the progress of "windicators" for maverick? It's almost alpha3 now and still no sign of it.....
[19:02] <Mea> fling:  my TI-83 is a rig?
[19:02] <Mea> lol
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Mea: they are file / torrent / backup servers and all I do is chat and browse so I don't need a system with 8gb ram quad core @ 40Ghz. Its a waste of money on me
[19:02] <fling> my linksys wusb54gv2 works with rt2751??
[19:03] <abhijit> rpius, ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:03] <fling> lol
[19:03] <fling> action, you don't multitask? or play hd tv?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> fling: run: sudo lshw -C network ,it will tell you the chip used. The make and model is moot
[19:03] <Mea> ActionParsnip: No def a waste. Though they are still holding up. Do you torretn movies and HD content
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> fling: nope, music, chat, browse
[19:04] <fling> music and video will benefit from more then one core and hw processing definately
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Mea: I go to the ciinema for movie, bigger than any screen and the sound quality is superb
[19:04] <fling> xD
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> fling: spotify runs fine
[19:04] <fling> action-if you find the right theater
[19:04] <Mea> ActionParsnip: what about like movies that dont get released in the states? Or documentaries!
[19:04] <fling> xD
[19:04] <Pici> !ot
[19:05] <fling> ^^
[19:05] <dury> I got this error when I'm trying to boot bloody vista from grub: Error 13: Invalid unsupported executable format. how can I solve this?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Mea: I have a tv for that but its rarely used. I tend to be out and about seeing the world. I use my phone it irc . Post on freenode
[19:05] <khider> I'll give opensuse a try, I think they are optomised for HP hardware--hopefully that will detect the wifi card. Too bad, Ubuntu is usually one of the better distros for that stuff
[19:05] <hiexpo> ? i have a folder on my usb floppy that somehow got read only how can i change it back everytime i open it it looks all the others also
[19:06] <hiexpo> ^locks
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> khider: try some bootoptions. I'd also try a livecd of maverick just to test
[19:06] <ozzloy> i would like to do something like: `sudo echo "1.2.3.4 a" >> /etc/hosts` but it says permission denied, so i tried `sudo ( echo "1.2.3.4 a" >> /etc/hosts ) ` and it says syntax error.
[19:06] <Mea> ActionParsnip: Well, thats good., tho. At least your not cooped up. I dont see the world and stuff that much. just work, sleep, and the occasional drunkeness
[19:06] <khider> ActionParsnip: Waht is Maverick
[19:06] <terry_> khider: You will be able to do anything with Ubuntu that you could with SuSe
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | khider
[19:07] <Pici> ozzloy: sudo does not cross io redirection operators. You can do:  echo "1.2.3.4 a" | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Mea: I love to explore, and not with my mouse. Let's keep ontopic now :)
[19:07] <ozzloy> i want to echo something and append it to a file owned by root.  i want to do this in a script i'm writing.  i'd like to use sudo for this.
[19:07] <ozzloy> Pici, ooh, my first use of tee!
[19:07] <ozzloy> i've seen tee documented before, but didn't really get what it was for!
[19:07] <ozzloy> cool thanks!
[19:08] <Pici> ozzloy: Sure, no problem :)
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> khider: maverick is the release in october this year. It may help
[19:08] <nimbiotics> Since upgrading to 10.04, i've had more than a couple of issues, some of which have already been tackled. Next one i think i must address is some error messages I can see just before the graphical interface starts, but that I dont know what they mean. Here is what I get from dmesg (http://pastebin.com/tzXnAC86) and xorg (http://pastebin.com/uNjDwDB4)  TIA!
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> khider: but try boot options first
[19:08] <lucenut> Hey guys. How can I tell the MHz of my processor in ubuntu?
[19:08] <Mea> Alright, Thanks for your help. Gotta get back to work tho
[19:08] <Pici> lucenut: lscpu or look at /proc/cpuinfo
[19:09] <terry_> nimbiotics: What are you trying to fix?  (What is not working properly?)
[19:09] <lucenut> I'm in the system monitor and all it says is AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
[19:09] <hiexpo> i have a folder that somehow got changed to read only on my usb floppy  how do i get permission back
[19:09] <fling> how to update to ubuntustudio-rt?
[19:09] <terry_> hiexpo: sudo chmod
[19:10] <abhijit> !chown | hiexpo
[19:10] <dury> that device is in /dev/sda1
[19:10] <lucenut> Pici when I type "/proc/cpuinfo" in a terminal it says "Permission denied".
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: ok your display is detected and using 1024x768. Wassup?
[19:10] <fling> <-finally got xp back on the pc. overclocked in ubuntu? 2.8-3.2ghz? how do i confirm this?
[19:11] <abhijit> lucenut, its "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[19:11] <Pici> lucenut: Its not a command.  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:11] <Phoenixz> Pici: so any ideas on how I could get it installed?
[19:11] <gabriel_pimentel> Hi, I have a problem connecting with my wireless network in ubuntu 10.4, I have a RTL8187 chipset, this is the info from iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/ARWt5WNn
[19:11] <Phoenixz> Pici: I kinda need it and AFAIK, its the only thing that does easy WMI interface..
[19:11] <dury> grub doesn't lanch that
[19:12] <khider> ActionParsnip: Nothing on wifi for boot options
[19:12] <gabriel_pimentel> And here is the info from Dmesg: http://pastebin.com/30xVnVEH . Can somebody help me?
[19:12] <fling> weak signal dude..
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> khider: there won't be. Try thing like noacpi, noapic, nodma etc. There aren't specific options for wireless
[19:13] <Quiet_guy> Having problems with dual monitors and Ubuntu.  Works fine when doing the 'TRY' from the cd but when I installed Ubuntu on my computer I no longer have both monitors working.  Thanks
[19:13] <terry_> Phoenixz: Are you trying to get a print driver working?
[19:13] <fling> gabriel, have you considered a weak signal to the router?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Quiet_guy: what video chip?
[19:13] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all ,does anyone know of any light ray tracing programs for Linux? Ya know, light bouncing off a surface, angle in = angle out?
[19:13] <Phoenixz> terry_: No, Im working on an automated server monitoring system.. I need to be able to check windows servers as well, and WMI is the way to go for that..
[19:13] <ccahoon_> How do I prevent a user from changing specific attributes of their own User model, given a role? I am using cancan, but really I think there is something I can do at the model level that I haven't been able to figure out.
[19:14] <Phoenixz> terry_: but I do NOT want to do this from a windows server myself, ofcourse :)
[19:14] <fling> david i believe there is supported software called bender??
[19:14] <dury> can't lanch the win system Error 13: Invalid unsupported executable format. how can I solve this?
[19:14] <Phoenixz> DavidJHeinrich: apt-cache search raytrace
[19:14] <abhijit> dury, may you want to try in ##windows?
[19:14] <DavidJHeinrich> fling: hmmmm...I have that, but it is complicated. I don't want modeling, I want something for optics
[19:14] <gabriel_pimentel> Hi, I have a problem connecting with my wireless network in ubuntu 10.4, I have a RTL8187 chipset, this is the info from iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/ARWt5WNn and this is the info from Dmesg: http://pastebin.com/30xVnVEH Can somebody help me?
[19:15] <fling> pls try above commnd in console^^
[19:15] <Quiet_guy> I will have to look and see what the chip video chip is....just a min.
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Quiet_guy: the command: lspci ,will tell you in 2 seconds
[19:16] <Pici> DavidJHeinrich: povray or blender may fit your needs.
[19:16] <fling> wow dude, gabriel i beleive your device is connected with no conflicts?
[19:16] <ashraf> hi can i get some help with Xubuntu 10.04
[19:16] <Pici> Phoenixz: I'm looking, but I'm not seeing much :/
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> !ask | ashraf
[19:16] <dury> abhijit: I can mount it when I'm in Ubuntu but can't lanch it when I'm in grub the error I mention appears
[19:16] <Phoenixz> Pici: same here, its as if it quietly died off... weird, because its very usefull..
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> If I drop off, my battery died. I'm not being ignorant
[19:17] <DavidJHeinrich> Pici: thanks, I'm getting povray... is it easy to use for 2D stuff? I just wanna figure out rays for a pyramid "cone" vs. a hyperbolic "cone"...for a soft box...to figure out which gets the most light to the front
[19:17] <fling> why can't i run tremolus installs? no permission?
[19:17] <abhijit> dury, i dunno. may be windows expert help you. try in channel ##windows
[19:17] <Pici> DavidJHeinrich: I've never used it myself :/
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Fling: use software centre
[19:17] <roy__868> my ubuntu inslation can`t made downloads
[19:17] <ashraf> How do I get my applications bar back?
[19:17] <terry_> Phoenixz: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+package/wmi-client
[19:17] <fling> action: thats usually not up to date..  i want to play 1.2
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> fling: it will install and give a nice menu icon
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> fling: then i'd find a ppa
[19:18] <fling> action i believe they are?
[19:18] <sweetpi> gabriel_pimentel: according to the docs, your deauthenticating because the access point went offline. maybe your out of range?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> ashraf: press alt+f2, type: gnome-panel ,press enter
[19:19] <aeon-ltd> ActionParsnip: xubuntu.
[19:19] <gabriel_pimentel> no, i have the computer near the router
[19:19] <Pici> terry_: That is not lucid.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Gah
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: nice catch
[19:19] <abhijit> !details | roy__868
[19:19] <fling> ah... they are *.run files... usually i give them permission to run and they instal..??
[19:19] <gabriel_pimentel> it connected fine before, now I dont know what happened
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> xfce-panel then (?)
[19:19] <aeon-ltd> ashraf: right click on the desktop there should be some options
[19:19] <fling> wine isn't installed..
[19:19] <Phoenixz> terry_: yeah, I found that one too, but thats jaunty.. Im on Lucid..
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> fling: if its a run file, mark it as executable and run it in terminal
[19:20] <ezscany> guys can someone help me install my drivers :S
[19:20] <terry_> Should find source tarball from there....
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> ezscany: for what hardware?
[19:20] <terry_> Phoenixz: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/wmi/1:0.1.12-1
[19:20] <Pici> terry_: That is still not Lucid.
[19:21] <ezscany> 2 x nvidia 9800 gt
[19:21] <fling> acin: yes i did this
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | ezscany
[19:21] <Pici> terry_: The source fails to build with python2.6 which is why it was removed from 10.04
[19:21] <fling> action::: even gave it read/write access
[19:22] <Phoenixz> terry_: checking
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> fling: try with sudo then
[19:22] <ezscany> propriety failed, from the official site failed and the ones from synaptic failed too ...
[19:22] <ezscany> all lead to crashes of the X
[19:22] <Dilly> hello there ppl
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> ezscany: are you fully updated?
[19:22] <sweetpi> gabriel_pimentel: actually i just checked my dmesg, and it looks about the same. could you paste your net config(s)?
[19:22] <abhijit> !hi | Dilly
[19:22] <ilovefairuz> !tab | fling
[19:23] <ashraf_> xubuntu 10.04 application panel disappeared ... how do i bring it back
[19:23] <ezscany> yea of course but in previous releases of ubuntu it was like this too it has always been like this ...
[19:23] <hiexpo> whats the command to see the name of my usb floppy
[19:23] <ezscany> running fully updated 64bit lucid
[19:23] <abhijit> ashraf, try in #xubuntu
[19:23] <lindsaymobil22> Im a Fedora user now but im willing to help stranded ubuntu users
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> ezscany: I've always used the nvidia vdpau ppa personally
[19:23] <ilovefairuz> ashraf_: alt + f2 and type xfce4-panel
[19:23] <gabriel_pimentel> how do I paste my net configs?
[19:24] <abhijit> !paste | gabriel_pimentel
[19:24] <ezscany> havent tried it yet
[19:24] <sweetpi> !who | gabriel_pimentel
[19:24] <lindsaymobil22> gabriel_pimentel,  try pastebin.com
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> lindsaymobil22: always glad for the help :)
[19:24] <ezscany> is it mentioned it the binary how to ?
[19:24] <DavidJHeinrich> do u guys know where povray goes in the Ubuntu menu system?
[19:24] <sanguisdex> hi there I have a hp mini 1030nr that does not have a eternet jack and I need to get the broadcom drivers where can I get the deb packages?
[19:24] <ashraf_> thanks ilovefiroz!
[19:24] <ilovefairuz> !broadcom | sanguisdex
[19:24] <Dilly> ;)
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> ezscany: no but that's never worked for you so its worth trying something else
[19:25] <abhijit> DavidJHeinrich, usualy its graphics or sound and video. you first try logout and login or you can lanuch it from terminal
[19:25] <Dilly> whats up ppl/?
[19:25] <ilovefairuz> ashraf_: you're welcome
[19:25] <lindsaymobil22> hey ActionParnsip! its been a while since i last spoke to you!
[19:25] <ilovefairuz> !ot | Dilly
[19:25] <sweetpi> gabriel_pimentel: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces and if your using wpa_supplicant, pastebin its config as well
[19:25] <ezscany> yea
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> lindsaymobil22: not recognising the nick, sorry
[19:25] <ezscany> starting to think its from my setup
[19:25] <ezscany> i mean my pc setup
[19:25] <lindsaymobil22> ActionParsnip it was a good few months ago now
[19:25] <lindsaymobil22> I was on jaunty
[19:26] <sheepz_> hello, why is the output to bash limited in length?
[19:26] <sweetpi> !pm | gabriel_pimentel
[19:26] <ilovefairuz> sheepz_: output of what ?
[19:26] <fling> action: lol the update runs so i can just d/l the depo version and upgreade xD
[19:26] <gabriel_pimentel> Here It is: auto lo
[19:26] <gabriel_pimentel> iface lo inet loopback
[19:26] <sheepz_> anything really, ilovefairuz
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> ezscany: add the ppa then install nvidia-glx-180 and you should get the latest driver. May even have the 256 version etc. Have a play
[19:26] <ilovefairuz> sheepz_: write an example
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> lindsaymobil22: that'll be why ;)
[19:26] <lindsaymobil22> :)
[19:26] <roy__868> i`m running ubuntu version 10.04 when i try to  check filesystem its showme error while im performing an operation
[19:26] <ezscany> ok will try it thx
[19:26] <sheepz_> well, I'm using a python script and i need to print out a long xml file
[19:27] <sheepz_> i only see the end bit
[19:27] <ilovefairuz> gabriel_pimentel: pastebin lshw -C network
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> fling: if you tab complete nicks, it highlights just like my text to you higlisghts
[19:27] <gabriel_pimentel> ok
[19:27] <ilovefairuz> sheepz_: append ' | less' at the end of the command and scroll up and down, use 'q' when you're finished
[19:27] <NiCeWoLf> Big question how come any other ICQ server gives me Connection refused
[19:27] <sheepz_> ok, ilovefairuz, thanks
[19:28] <fling> lol, auto complete is handy in terminal..useless in chat rooms with 2billion people that have names like yours
[19:28] <NiCeWoLf> Big question how come any other ICQ server gives me Connection refused???????
[19:28] <ilovefairuz> roy__868: pastebin the command and  error
[19:28] <gabriel_pimentel> Here is the pastebin of lshw: http://pastebin.com/G8sCnuUn
[19:29] <fling> xchat doesn't even tab through them it just displays all of them in huge text chunks xc
[19:29] <fling> nice- you haven't registered the nick there?
[19:29] <glaucous> What's the command to setup monitors? I'd like to shortcut multiple monitors and so on. xrandr?
[19:29] <ilovefairuz> gabriel_pimentel: are you using a USB stick? pastebin  'lsusb'
[19:30] <gabriel_pimentel> yes, im using a usb stick
[19:30] <ilovefairuz> fling: type first few letters
[19:30] <gabriel_pimentel> Im going to paste lsusb now
[19:30] <fling> ilovefairuz, woot
[19:30] <ilovefairuz> !dualhead | glaucous
[19:30] <yeti__> //q/q
[19:30] <sweetpi> gabriel_pimentel: since youve ignored my !who and !pm... good luck
[19:30] <hiexpo> how do i get the path to usb floppy drive?
[19:31] <ilovefairuz> fling: type the first few letters of a nick and press tab
[19:31] <daedaluz> something like Kiten for GNOME?
[19:31] <gabriel_pimentel> sorry, imw new at this chat and I dont understand well
[19:31] <ashraf> I have installed Xubuntu 10.04 using WUBI.exe on a computer infected with .exe file infecting virus. My Xubuntu runs very slowly. I have 256 mb Ram. Is it running slow because of virus or low memory? Please help!
[19:31] <ilovefairuz> !pm | roy__868
[19:31] <gabriel_pimentel> the pastebin from lsub: http://pastebin.com/a5wTC1nn
[19:31] <matt_keys> I ran ssh-keygen and did not set a password, then ssh-copy-id. When I try to ssh using the identity file I get prompted for a password for the identity file. Does anyone know why??
[19:31] <lindsaymobil22> ashraf low memory, 256mb isnt alot, even for XFCE
[19:31] <Quiet_guy> Let me try this again with more information.  I just installed Ubuntu and am having dual monitor problems.  When running in the 'try' mode everything works fine but, when I installed Ubuntu 10.04 on my HD only one monitor works.  My video card is GE Force 8400GS.
[19:32] <ilovefairuz> ashraf_: windows viruses don't affect ubuntu
[19:32] <fling> ilovefairuz, yes they do and vice versa
[19:32] <gabriel_pimentel> sweetpi> here is my lsusb paste bin: http://pastebin.com/a5wTC1nn
[19:32] <ilovefairuz> fling: link?
[19:32] <matt_keys> Quiet_guy : click system, preferences, monitors. make sure it's turned up
[19:32] <matt_keys> on*
[19:32] <gabriel_pimentel> ilovefairuz> here is the pastebin from lsusb: http://pastebin.com/a5wTC1nn
[19:33] <fling> ilovefairuz,  um, how about 3 crashes in both os's from alternating os's...ddos..
[19:33] <NiCeWoLf> Big question how come any other IRC server gives me Connection refused???????
[19:33] <Quiet_guy> matt have done that with no luck.  in 'try' mode I could control both monitors but when installed only sees one monitor.
[19:34] <ilovefairuz> fling: you're talking nonsense
[19:34] <fling> ilovefairuz, ubuntu / linux has several safeguards yes
[19:34] <Pici> NiCeWoLf: What other IRC serveR?
[19:34] <matt_keys> Quiet_guy : never used the "try" mode... what's that about?
[19:34] <lindsaymobil22> would anyone recommend XFCE to a gnome user?
[19:34] <sweetpi> gabriel_pimentel: i asked for your /etc/network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant.conf, not your hardware. i already know what hardware you have from your dmesg paste
[19:34] <fling> fine, fine it's nonsense...
[19:34] <sanguisdex> how can I mount a liveUSB as the live CD?
[19:34] <NiCeWoLf> Pici: anyone i try efnet dalnet undernet anything
[19:34] <matt_keys> sanguisdex: google unetbootin
[19:34] <gabriel_pimentel> sweetpi> ok, im going to look for it right now
[19:34] <fling> traceroute and hops trace with system info is just nonsense...
[19:35] <Quiet_guy> Matt,  that is a version of the program that can be run off a CD without installing it.
[19:35] <ashraf> thanks! you guys are great!
[19:35] <ilovefairuz> roy__868: copy and paste the WHOLE command and output to a pastebin
[19:35] <roy__868> partition 1 of ATA Maxtor 6l080P0 THE DEVICE IS BUSY
[19:35] <matt_keys> quiet_guy : oh the live cd
[19:35] <lindsaymobil22> ashraf thats why we're here!
[19:35] <lampliter> is there anyone here who can help me with Bluetooth keyboard question
[19:35] <ilovefairuz> !paste | roy__868
[19:35] <Quiet_guy> Matt, yes sir.
[19:35] <fling> vulnerability- in the end linux was stable and running, and not curropt
[19:35] <sanguisdex> matt_keys: I can do that but I can't then use the USB as a software source for installing packages
[19:35] <Pici> NiCeWoLf: What client are you using? How are you trying to connect to them, via a menu or by typing in a command?
[19:36] <matt_keys> quiet_guy : that has limited drivers.. the new version works with dual monitors (i've got my desktop at work set up like that).
[19:36] <ilovefairuz> !details | lindsaymobil22
[19:36] <teknon__>  /bye
[19:36] <NiCeWoLf> Pici: xchat - gnome from menu
[19:36] <hiexpo> what is command to get path to mu usb
[19:36] <fling> awesome support and updates helped xD
[19:37] <matt_keys> sanguisdex: you generally grab those from the 'net anyway
[19:37] <lindsaymobil22> ilovefairuz ok what was that for?
[19:37] <ozzloy> how do i repeat a command until it is successful in bash?  (command is "ping -w 2 -c 1 servername")
[19:37] <Quiet_guy> Matt, I just don't know where to look to configure how the video card sends out it's information to the monitors.  The working monitor is fine but the non-working one says 'no signal'.
[19:37] <fling> push arrow up
[19:37] <Pici> NiCeWoLf: Is there a specific error that you are getting?
[19:38] <ilovefairuz> lindsaymobil22: what was what for? if you're hoping for a solution to your problem, state the details and if anyone knows, they'll answer
[19:38] <gabriel_pimentel> sweetpi> here is the pastebin from Interfaces: http://pastebin.com/LJ5nBCzE but I dont how to get the info from wpa_supplicant
[19:38] <matt_keys> ozzloy: if loop prob
[19:38] <ozzloy> i'd like to do something like `while [ ping -w 2 -c 1 servername ]; do somestuff; done
[19:38] <NiCeWoLf> Pici:  Connection failed. Error: Connection refused
[19:38] <ilovefairuz> !who | fling
[19:38] <ozzloy> but that gives back "too many arguments
[19:38] <sanguisdex> matt_keys but if I am trying to install nic drivers from the USB that does not help
[19:38] <lindsaymobil22> ilovefairuz i dont need support, im here to help! im a flipping fedora user im not thick
[19:38] <ilovefairuz> ozzloy: use the up arrow and press enter
[19:38] <matt_keys> quiet_guy: like i said it's got limited drivers. I'm not sure the live cd has dual monitor support, it's more for just trying it out
[19:38] <Phoenixz> terry_: Pici: Guess what, the jaunty wmi-client package seems to work! At least it installed without problems! :)
[19:39] <fling> ilovefairuz, general response and info, quick response to an ez question, tho your right it's bz..
[19:39] <ozzloy> ilovefairuz, heh.  i'm writing a bash script
[19:39] <Pici> NiCeWoLf: I'm not sure whats going on then.  I havent used xchat myself in a long time.  You may want to ask in #xchat
[19:39] <samijam> I saw something once that asked me if I wanted my system to automatically provide feedback about software usage/performance or something like that, but I can't find where that was... anybody know what i'm talking about?
[19:39] <NiCeWoLf> Pici: what you use?
[19:39] <sweetpi> gabriel_pimentel: if youre using network-manager you likely wont have wpa_supplicant config
[19:39] <Pici> ozzloy: #bash would be the best place to ask for bash programming questions.
[19:39] <ozzloy> Pici, word
[19:39] <matt_keys> sanguisdex: have you tried passing it as a kernel boot param?
[19:39] <Pici> NiCeWoLf: irssi, its a console based irc client.
[19:39] <ilovefairuz> lindsaymobil22: aaah sorry, wrong nick
[19:39] <gabriel_pimentel> sweetpi> yeah, Im using network-manager
[19:40] <sanguisdex> matt_keys: now you above my head
[19:40] <lucenut> Is there anything built-in to Ubuntu to show the temperature of the CPU?
[19:40] <Quiet_guy> Matt: I think I will go to the 8400 web site and see if they offer drivers for Ubuntu.  Might be a place to work from.
[19:40] <NiCeWoLf> Pici: will try that one now
[19:40] <ilovefairuz> lucenut: lmsensors
[19:40] <fling> Pici, nice..
[19:40] <fling> xD
[19:40] <sweetpi> gabriel_pimentel: ok then double check your using the correct authentication type and that there are not mac filters setup on the access point
[19:40] <matt_keys> sanguisdex : sanguisdex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[19:40] <fling> lucenut^^ i'd llike to know that too
[19:41] <matt_keys> lucenut : lmsensors
[19:41] <gabriel_pimentel> sweetpi> I use WPA and how do I check the mac filters?
[19:41] <abhijit> !sensors | lucenut fling
[19:41] <sweetpi> ozzloy: why not just get rid of "-c 1" and it will ping forever
[19:42] <sweetpi> gabriel_pimentel: you need to login to your access points web interface and look
[19:42] <ozzloy> because the `somestuff` tries to make it so pinging will work
[19:42] <ozzloy> so i need to run somestuff, then try pinging, then run somestuff again if pinging didn't work
[19:42] <gabriel_pimentel> sweetpi> on windows 7 on this machine I can connect fine to my wireless network, the problem is with ubuntu
[19:43] <sweetpi> gabriel_pimentel: ok i didnt see that windows worked
[19:44] <NiCeWoLf> Pici after i install it where to find it?
[19:44] <sweetpi> gabriel_pimentel: double check auth type and password on your access point
[19:44] <lostinspace_46> I have a problem installing a tarball.  ./configure went fine, as did make.  However make install gave me an error.  Screenshot here of make install output   http://paste.ubuntu.com/470358/  and screenshot here of the po dir in the source dir   http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6tp9j6&s=3   I just thought seeing the dir might help.  Any help will be appreciated.
[19:45] <gabriel_pimentel> sweetpi> ok, let me check now
[19:45] <Pici> NiCeWoLf: Open a terminal and type irssi.  See http://irssi.org/documentation for help
[19:45] <abhijit> !compile | lostinspace_46
[19:46] <laperr> lostinspace_46 try sudo
[19:46] <Ubuntus> sudo bash
[19:46] <Ubuntus> killall
[19:46] <lostinspace_46> laperr, I ran it as sido
[19:46] <lostinspace_46> *sudo
[19:47] <laperr> lostinspace_46 just a thought
[19:47] <fling> where would software manager install tremolus?
[19:48] <lostinspace_46> laperr, It seems to have only written 1/2 the files it should when running make, but made all the dirs
[19:48] <ilovefairuz> lostinspace_46: grub 1.x is still in repos, why compile?
[19:48] <lucenut> OK, I read about lm-sensors and it's over my head. They say there's a GUI called xsensors that uses lm-sensors.
[19:48] <lucenut> Can someone point me in the right direction for installing something like this?
[19:48] <fling> lol i don't have permission to view root
[19:49] <terry_> lostinspace_46: What / where is the package you started with?
[19:49] <lostinspace_46> ilovefairuz, Because it seems that 1.98 has more ability to work with the graphical manager
[19:49] <AvonGenesis> How can I increase my swap size?
[19:49] <lostinspace_46> terry_, You mean where did I get it?
[19:49] <terry_> AvonGenesis: gparted
[19:50] <ilovefairuz> !info grub2 | lostinspace_46
[19:50] <terry_> lostinspace_46: Yes.
[19:50] <lostinspace_46> one sec
[19:50] <AvonGenesis> terry_: Will adding more swap space increase my performance? Or am i looking in the wrong direction.
[19:50] <fling> nice i can share folder easily with ubuntu and windows pc's hehe
[19:50] <terry_> AvonGenesis: Adding more RAM might but depends on a lot of factors.
[19:51] <ilovefairuz> lucenut: sudo apt-get install sensors-applet
[19:51] <fling> avon yes ram will improve everything
[19:51] <terry_> AvonGenesis: In short, probably not.  But how much RAM do you have?
[19:51] <fling> AvonGenesis, get the rt kernal
[19:51] <perlsyntax> How do i setup logitech speakers z313 in ubuntu?
[19:51] <fling> how do i install an rt kernal
[19:51] <racethesunlive> I just installed ubuntu 10.04 on a bootable usb stick, but now when i move the stick to a different PC the video doesnt display, what would cause this?
[19:51] <lostinspace_46> terry_, grub-1.98 from here ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/
[19:51] <AvonGenesis> terry_: I see, the thing is that the new ubuntu 10.04 is lagging for me a lot. This is my first time using ubuntu/linux. I have 2GB of ram and running 64bit. People say that will hinder my performance.
[19:51] <perlsyntax> Is there any driver do i need?
[19:52] <AvonGenesis> fling: Whats the rt kernel?
[19:52] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:52] <WJW> What's the best bait line for being reminded of the channel where bestbot hangs out?
[19:52] <fling> AvonGenesis,  it should be fine, rt mean real-time
[19:52] <perlsyntax> anyone know
[19:52] <shiv> How do I change the test size on the panels?
[19:52] <shiv> How do I change the text size on the panels?
[19:52] <Pici> WJW: #ubuntu-bots (!best)
[19:52] <fling> AvonGenesis, have you a gfx card?
[19:52] <terry_> lostinspace_46: So you are installing ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/grub-1.98.tar.gz ?
[19:52] <da-bayman>  Hi. When i boot into wubi i go straight to the grub2 command screen. aka "sh :grub>" how can i get my kernel info from there so i can boot
[19:52] <aloon> Every time I shutdown I get a program that won't close , it says "unknown program" and when I say shut down anyways a few seconds later I get an error about KDE global shortcut system cut short ... does anyone know of a way to get rid of KDE global shortcuts ? I use Gnome anyways but have a few KDE apps installed.
[19:52] <lostinspace_46> terry_, Yeppers
[19:52] <AvonGenesis> fling: Yup, I do have a gfx card install. Radeon HD 3650 1GB memroy
[19:52] <axon> please help me, short question: how can i find out my ip my dns and so on with one command?
[19:52] <Pici> lostinspace_46: Why are you installing it from source?
[19:53] <ilovefairuz> lostinspace_46: grub version 1.98 IS in ubuntu repositories
[19:53] <perlsyntax> does anyone know how to get a Logitech Speakers to work in ubuntu?
[19:53] <fling> AvonGenesis,  did you install the restricted drivers when prompted?
[19:53] <lostinspace_46> ilovefairuz, Hmm let me look
[19:53] <AvonGenesis> fling: Yup! I also proceded to install the drivers from the official website too.
[19:53] <perlsyntax> hello
[19:53] <KB1JWQ|Birfday> perlsyntax: Speakers are speakers.  Likely you want to look at the soundcard. :-)
[19:53] <ilovefairuz> lostinspace_46: it's called grub2
[19:53] <fling> AvonGenesis, theres your problem maybe..
[19:53] <aloon> axon ifconfig -a
[19:53] <terry_> lostinspace_46: What is wrong with grub that you already have?
[19:53] <perlsyntax> igot a sound baster card
[19:54] <AvonGenesis> fling: Really? I thought the restricted drivers and manufacturer drivers were completly different O.o
[19:54] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:54] <fling> AvonGenesis, you only need the restricted drivers...i'm not sure ubuntu supports the vendor drivers effectivly, could cause your issues
[19:54] <fling> AvonGenesis, they are
[19:54] <perlsyntax> KBIJWQ,I shock i get no sound.
[19:54] <fling> AvonGenesis,  and thats the problem they are difffrent but will try to run
[19:54] <Pici> fling: The 'restricted' drivers are Ubuntu packaged versions of the ones from the vendors.
[19:55] <ilovefairuz> axon: right click on network icon and select "Connection Info"
[19:55] <fling> pici yes, but installing both causes issues
[19:55] <AvonGenesis> fling: I see, so is it safe to assume that gfx drivers are causing my slow performance, whether it be minimizing/maximizing windows and watching videos/playing flash games?
[19:55] <lostinspace_46> ilovefairuz, I didnt think a dummy package was a real package
[19:55] <_UsUrPeR_> I'm getting hash sum mismatches for the new 64-bit kernel
[19:55] <_UsUrPeR_> is this happening to anybody else?
[19:55] <Pici> fling: Yes. Maybe I misread before
[19:55] <perlsyntax> I wish someon would help.
[19:55] <perlsyntax> someone
[19:56] <perlsyntax> Is sound baster support in ubuntu?
[19:56] <ilovefairuz> lostinspace_46: it points to http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/grub-pc
[19:56] <japancheese> How can I add my user to my ubuntu server's sudoers file?  I'm following some directions online, but I'm still getting prompted for a password
[19:56] <_UsUrPeR_> perlsyntax: what's up?
[19:56] <aloon> anyone heard of KDE global shortcuts ? Or how to unistall it ? I use gnome and it causes a problem shutting down
[19:56] <fling> avon, yes, you'll have to uninstall the "offical" or vendor specific ones..and re-install the ones ubuntu would give you..a simple un-install of the vendor drivers should allow you to do this easily
[19:56] <perlsyntax> Try to get my speakers to play sound.
[19:56] <da-bayman> Hi. When i boot into wubi i go straight to the grub2 command screen. aka "sh :grub>" how can i get my kernel info from there so i can boot
[19:56] <ilovefairuz> !soundblaster | perlsyntax
[19:57] <fling> it's not any less then what the vendors gave the open community to work with they keep up to date an such
[19:57] <sanguisdex> so I am having trouble moiting a liveUSB as a live CD so that I can get the software sources
[19:57] <ilovefairuz> da-bayman: boot the live cd and pastebin the ouput of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[19:57] <AvonGenesis> fling: Alright sounds great. Thanks! One last question. Is having only 255mb of swap kinda small?
[19:57] <lostinspace_46> ilovefairuz, You mean the pkg in the repo?
[19:57] <ilovefairuz> lostinspace_46: yes
[19:58] <ilovefairuz> aloon: try in #kde
[19:58] <fling> AvonGenesis, yes swap should be atleast half of total system ram..or half of max system bandwidth
[19:58] <ilovefairuz> japancheese: sudo EDITOR=nano visudo
[19:58] <lostinspace_46> ilovefairuz, I see that now..I will give it a whirl
[19:58] <aloon> I don't even have KDE installed ... but yah , thanks i'll try
[19:58] <lostinspace_46> Thanks to all for the help
[19:59] <terry_> ilovefairuz: visudo
[19:59] <AvonGenesis> fling: I see, I'll fix the drivers first then deal with the swap. Thanks :)
[19:59] <da-bayman> ilovefairuz: ok, give me a few minutes. thanks
[19:59] <delaman> i installe mysql but it does not start up on its own when i reboot the machine.  How can i make mysql start on its own when i reboot the machine?
[19:59] <fling> xD let us know if you have any further issues
[19:59] <ilovefairuz> terry_: vi is  not really intuitive for beginners
[19:59] <perlsyntax> Ilovefairuz,It work with all sound baster cards?
[19:59] <japancheese> ilovefairuz, terry_ :  I've done that, and I've added my user to the bottom of the file like so "japancheese ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[19:59] <ilovefairuz> perlsyntax: no idea, sorry
[20:00] <UltraParadigm> Would someone please tell me where all the C++ include files are in ubuntu?  I found the GNU 4.4 directories and my IDE stopeed givming me errors but I still get one error saying that my include file <iostream> has undeclared statments
[20:00] <sanguisdex> list
[20:00] <japancheese> restarted the shell, so why would I still be prompted for a password
[20:00] <sanguisdex> opps
[20:00] <angelusdemons> hola
[20:00] <ilovefairuz> japancheese: well sudo prompts for your password!
[20:00] <ilovefairuz> !es | angelusdemons
[20:00] <terry_> ilovefairuz: Added yourself to group wheel?
[20:00] <ilovefairuz> japancheese: did you expect that when you sudo something, it will just execute as root without asking for password?
[20:01] <fling> how do i instal ubuntustudio-rt?
[20:01] <japancheese> ilovefairuz: I'm under the impression that there is a way to add yourself to the sudoers file to avoid being prompted for a password
[20:01] <japancheese> ilovefairuz: More or less, yes.
[20:01] <ilovefairuz> japancheese: no it is not, it's to enable that user to execute binaries as root but using on her password
[20:02] <cobra-the-joker> hey there guys ... some freind of mine get some error when trying to install ubuntu ..... ( "error in the installer ') ... any suggestions ?
[20:02] <ilovefairuz> japancheese: if you weren't prompted for a password, that would defeat the whole purpose, any browser exploit can ruin your whole computer
[20:02] <UltraParadigm> cobra-the-joker:  What was the error?
[20:02] <ilovefairuz> cobra-the-joker: that's very vague, please elaborate
[20:03] <angelusdemons> alguien sabe donde bajar thinkfree gratis
[20:03] <maco> !es | angelusdemons
[20:03] <japancheese> ilovefairuz: Then perhaps you can read over this: http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/150015  and help explain to me exactly what they are suggesting I do
[20:03] <UltraParadigm> Did the error actually say "error in the installer"  or was it something else?
[20:03] <japancheese> ilovefairuz: I'm having a similar problem as the OP in that post
[20:03] <cobra-the-joker> thats the message that i get UltraParadigm , and then it alters him to the liveCD
[20:03] <ugur_> Hi all. I need help with acer aspire 5020 acpi hotkeys
[20:04] <DavidJHeinrich> does anyone know of a GUI interface to povray?
[20:04] <profxavier> hi, I am attempting to setup ESMTP, along with my gmail account, to send emails from my Ubuntu machine.  I used: http://esmtp.sourceforge.net/manual.html to set things up, but when I try and send an email, using sendmail, I get an error: "SMTP server problem Name or service not known". Where should I start to fix my issue ?
[20:04] <AvonGenesis> How do i uninstall the ati manufacturer drivers and install the restricted ones? I install the manufacturer drivers first then install restricted. Is it safe to assume that the restricted overwrote the manufacturer drivers?
[20:04] <japancheese> ilovefairuz: What would the last post mean when he says "Change the sudoers file instead to allow your user to sudo without a password"
[20:04] <UltraParadigm> Wow, well I can imagine that's discouraging cobra-the-joker.  How is he attempting to install it in the first place?  Using the standard CD installation?
[20:05] <cobra-the-joker> UltraParadigm , CD boot from bios
[20:05] <ilovefairuz> japancheese: all these suggestions are horrible !
[20:06] <ilovefairuz> japancheese: if there's a specific binary you'd like to run with root privs, use setuid
[20:06] <fling> is this correct https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UpgradingFromHardy
[20:06] <japancheese> ilovefairuz: Not a specific binary, I'm just trying to run commands on my server through the net::ssh library.  some of the commands require the use of sudo though
[20:07] <ilovefairuz> japancheese: if you need to freely execute commands as root then enable the root user account and ssh using its credentials
[20:07] <gnuzoo> I have a Dell Inspiron 8500 w 250 gig disk (101 gig free) & 1.gig ram & nvidia geforce 4200 go.  I tried to install ubunto through wubi.  When I boot and choose ubunto it just waits a couple of seconds and reboots the computer instead of loading ubuntu.  Is there a fix for this?
[20:07] <cobra-the-joker> UltraParadigm , any thing i can do :( ?
[20:07] <sanguisdex> is there a way to add an apt source for a liveUSB drive?
[20:08] <fling> gnugr, try the cd version instead
[20:08] <da-bayman> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470371/
[20:08] <UltraParadigm> cobra-the-joker:  check the PC, make sure that if the computer is 64 bit, that you are using a 64bit installation
[20:09] <profxavier> mail help please ?
[20:09] <UltraParadigm> likewise, if the PC is 32 bit, make sure it's a 32 bit installation
[20:09] <ilovefairuz> japancheese: 'sudo passwd root' will enable your root account, add a password and use it to ssh
[20:09] <ilovefairuz> da-bayman: are you still on the livecd?
[20:09] <fling> running script from above link^
[20:09] <da-bayman> ilovefairuz: yes
[20:09] <hiexpo> ah fixed
[20:09] <gnuzoo> So wubi just does not work then?
[20:09] <ilovefairuz> da-bayman: where did you install ubuntu ?
[20:10] <cobra-the-joker> UltraParadigm , tried 32-bit for 64 processor
[20:10] <cobra-the-joker> i dont think thats a problem
[20:10] <fling> where would software manager install a game's files?
[20:10] <ilovefairuz> da-bayman: did you install using wubi ?
[20:10] <da-bayman> ilovefairuz: inside win xp using wubi. i guess it was hda1
[20:10] <UltraParadigm> cobra-the-joker: I tried that too, it will not work
[20:10] <UltraParadigm> you have to DL the 64 bit version
[20:10] <ilovefairuz> fling: dpkg --listfiles packagename
[20:11] <econdudeawesome> Does anyone recommend a python IDE for ubuntu's command line? One that could be invoked without xserver?
[20:11] <cobra-the-joker> UltraParadigm , ok
[20:11] <ilovefairuz> econdudeawesome: ask in #python
[20:11] <hiexpo> was a corrupt file creating the prob
[20:11] <econdudeawesome> ilovefairuz I am, but not all command line IDE's are portable.
[20:12] <KDE_VS_GNOME> hi folks
[20:12] <da-bayman> ilovefairuz: yes using wubi, inside dev/hda1 i would think
[20:14] <KDE_VS_GNOME> i have some problem with metasploit3. Use ubuntu 10.04
[20:15] <ilovefairuz> da-bayman: http://calamari.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/fixing-a-broken-wubi-grub-after-ubuntu-updates/
[20:15] <lucenut> @iluvfairuz, now that I installed the sensors applet, what do I do to see the temperatures?
[20:15] <jaapz> hi
[20:16] <jaapz> i have aproblem playing my mp3's
[20:16] <ilovefairuz> lucenut: right click on the upper panel and select "add to panel", find the applet
[20:16] <ilovefairuz> jaapz: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras (type this in a terminal)
[20:16] <ilovefairuz> !terminal | jaapz
[20:16] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, already done that
[20:16] <da-bayman> ilovefairuz: thank you, BUT, my problem is i dont know what kernel i am running
[20:17] <paveway> hello to all, i've a problem with xfce, can anybody help me?
[20:17] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, problem is: all players stall when you start playing an mp3
[20:17] <KDE_VS_GNOME> problem solved)thanks folks!
[20:17] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, it says its playing but it isnt
[20:17] <ilovefairuz> da-bayman: try pressing 'tab' and see if it autocompletes
[20:17] <da-bayman> ilovefairuz: it doesnt
[20:17] <econdudeawesome> emacs it is
[20:18] <ilovefairuz> jaapz: did you install the extra codecs?
[20:18] <paveway> how can i can change resolution of xfce in shell?
[20:18] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, as in: ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[20:19] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, if so, yes
[20:19] <daedaluz> is there a way to get KDE 4.4 -style aerosnap clone in GNOME?
[20:19] <edbian> paveway, using xrandr
[20:19] <da-bayman> ilovefairuz: thats the thing, i need to know when kernel im running, but i cant get t a terminal
[20:20] <paveway> it says can't open display
[20:20] <ilovefairuz> jaapz: try running one of them from the command line and see  if it spews any error messages
[20:20] <edbian> paveway, did you try this: xrandr --fb widthxheight ??
[20:20] <jaapz> tried that with banshee
[20:20] <fling> the tremulous files i'm looking for are not there?
[20:20] <Svy> Has anyone gotten Lexmark X5470 t wprl?
[20:20] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, will try with totem now
[20:21] <ilovefairuz> paveway: xfce has settings app
[20:21] <Scunizi> da-bayman: can you get to synaptic package manager?  if so search for "linux" in the "installed" section and you'll see all kernels installed. Most likely the highest version is what you're running.
[20:21] <paveway> i'm not able to enter into xfce
[20:21] <Svy> Has anyone got Lexmark x5470 to work?
[20:21] <ilovefairuz> jaapz: you can try the 'ffplay' command from ffmpeg
[20:21] <paveway> i changed the video res, all worked well, i rebooted and now i'm not able to acces xfce
[20:21] <da-bayman> Scunizi: how do i get the synaptic if i cant get past grub?
[20:22] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, no output at all with the --debug flag
[20:22] <jaapz> at least, nothing worth mentioning
[20:22] <ilovefairuz> da-bayman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Rescue%20Mode
[20:23] <ilovefairuz> jaapz: in ffplay ?
[20:23] <Scunizi> da-bayman: ah.. sorry didn't know you were stuck at grub.. got a live cd? boot to that, mount the drive and look in grubs files for what's listed.. live cd will also fix grub.. now if you've already said you don't have a live cd then... sorry.. I'm stuck..
[20:24] <calmdude> hi
[20:24] <StaRetji> Folks, can someone help me out dual boot ubuntu and windows 7 using syslinux. Windows 7 is installed on first partition and ubuntu live with permanent storage on second partition. THX in advance ;)
[20:24] <fling> whats the command to tell a file to run as it is? chmod dir/file?
[20:24] <ilovefairuz> da-bayman: read the 'command summary' and the box below it
[20:24] <da-bayman> Scunizi: haha, i appreciate ur help, but thats another part of my problem. I have wubi and i cant look at my files directly from live cd
[20:24] <ilovefairuz> !hi | calmdude
[20:24]  * Scunizi bangs head on table
[20:24] <Svy> Has anyone got Lexmark x5470 to work?
[20:25] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, ffplay is also stuck but without any mentionable output
[20:25] <calmdude> can someone help me about "nvidia propriatery drivers with lucid"?
[20:25] <ilovefairuz> fling: as an executable? chmod u+x file
[20:25] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, could you sum up to me what i need to install to play an mp3 file again? ubuntu-restricted-extras, and..?
[20:26] <ilovefairuz> !details | calmdude
[20:26] <ilovefairuz> jaapz: just that
[20:26] <Scunizi> da-bayman: do you have info that you can't do without?  reinstall.. then convert wubi to a full dual boot situation.  Much easier to troubleshoot, fix, reinstall etc.. however .. has anyone pointed you to the factoid about grub2?
[20:26] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, would restarting help?
[20:26] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, would be weird
[20:26] <ilovefairuz> jaapz: no idea but you could try
[20:27] <jaapz> ilovefairuz, could it be because i manually compiled alsa 1.0.23?
[20:27] <djustice> question: how can i remove my 200 loop device mountpoints from my file dialogs? (open/save/etc)
[20:27] <djustice> one by one sounds lame..
[20:27] <ilovefairuz> !pm | calmdude
[20:28] <Scunizi> Svy: Lexmark is the worst at supporting linux.. good luck
[20:28] <Svy> I am trying to get my Lexmark printer to work. I have tried to go to printing and then select my printer, but that doesn't do anything
[20:28] <Svy> It worked when I had Opensuse
[20:28] <djustice> Lexmark is better than Kodak.. imho..
[20:28] <ilovefairuz> djustice: umount -a will unmount EVERYTHING
[20:28] <Svy> Does opensuse have somthing different then Lucid?
[20:28] <djustice> ilovefairuz: yep. but thats not what i want. they must stay mounted.
[20:28] <jseamus> I am running lucid, and recently updated. after the update, a restart was required. before the computer shut down, a dialogue asked if i was sure i wanted to shut down. when it came back on, a "kernel panic" error message was all i got. "kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown-block." any help?
[20:29] <Scunizi> Svy: then maybe the instructions / PPD file will apply to ubuntu as well.. afterall I believe both use the CUPS back end.
[20:29] <djustice> ilovefairuz: i was hoping there was a gtk switch, gconf key or sth..
[20:29] <StaRetji> Can someone help me out dual boot ubuntu and windows 7 using syslinux. Windows 7 is installed on first partition and ubuntu live with permanent storage on second partition. thx
[20:29] <jongleur> hi. I lost my wlan0 at a Asus Eee1101HA with current ubuntu (last update of all packages around 5hours ago). wlan0 is not listed any more in the network devices. wtf is that and how can I solve it?
[20:29] <Svy> Scunizi: Where can I get the PPD file
[20:30] <lokesh> help
[20:30] <ilovefairuz> !details | lokesh
[20:31] <StaRetji> I'm able to boot ubuntu, but windows 7 is my problem, anyone?
[20:32] <mahound> hello
[20:32] <cablop> coz_ thanks about glipper suggestion
[20:33] <sjm> StaRetji, Do you want to install it on the hard drive rather than the live cd?
[20:33] <jongleur> anybody who can help me? question posted above: wlan0 gone
[20:33] <ilovefairuz> !hi | mahound
[20:33] <mahound> it seems i messed up my pulseaudio installation, and it is not starting automatically when i log in... is there a way to restore the original settings?
[20:33] <calmdude> i installed a fresh lucid, then updated the system. when install proprietary nvidia drivers from "hardware drivers", it boots in low res mod. checked the nvidia settings manager and it looks not installed. currenty i am able to make it work with dirty tricks, its not stable as it should be. i just wanted to know is it just me or "lucid hates nvidia"?
[20:33] <ilovefairuz> jongleur: pastebin lshw -C network
[20:33] <sjm> StaRetji, during the installation, grub should recognize the windows partition (as long as you don't format it) and give you the dual boot option.
[20:34] <StaRetji> sjm, there is no grub
[20:34] <StaRetji> I've used linux live usb installer
[20:34] <ilovefairuz> mahound: check it in system > preferences > start up applications
[20:34] <calmdude> btw plymouth (the bootloader thingy) runs low res too
[20:34] <jseamus> help
[20:34] <sjm> StaRetji, did you actually install it on the HD?
[20:34] <StaRetji> but instead of usb, I've installed on 4gb second partition of my hard drive
[20:34] <StaRetji> yes
[20:34] <jseamus> running lucid (10.04), recently updated. after update, restart was required. before computer shut down, dialogue box asked if i was sure i wanted to shut down. when it came back on, "kernel panic" error message was all i got. "kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown-block." any help?
[20:35] <StaRetji> so, first partition, win7, second partition ubuntu live
[20:35] <StaRetji> ubuntu boots just fine
[20:35] <StaRetji> win7 don't
[20:35] <mahound> ilovefairuz, nothing there...
[20:35] <therealpsychx> Wasn't there a stickied thread on ubuntuforums, that showed examples of malicious code? I can't find it, I'm trying to show it to someone as an example of what not to do.
[20:35] <djustice> c'mon bored guy.. you know you wanna help me dig thru forum posts.. ;) loop devices ... file dialogs..
[20:35] <sjm> you basically need to install grub to the HD.
[20:35] <djustice> StaRetji: reinstsall'd grub yet?
[20:35] <Scunizi> Svy: sorry .. no idea.. google could be your friend here.
[20:35] <sjm> StaRetji, install grub.
[20:35] <ilovefairuz> mahound: add an entry that starts 'start-pulseaudio-x11'
[20:36] <Svy> Ok, Thankyou Scunizi!
[20:36] <edwinpino> QUIEN HABA ESPAÑOL
[20:36] <maco> !es | edwinpino
[20:36] <StaRetji> ehm, ok, thx sjm and djustice. I thought to get it to work with syslinux, not grub
[20:36] <mahound> ilovefairuz, but when i run this from the terminal, i get "Connection failure: Connection refused"
[20:36] <anAngel> Hello, can u tell me some free log analyzers that work with shorewall, iptables or any other network analyse program/script
[20:37] <calmdude> well, is there anybody wanna help me about "lucid & nvidia proprietary driver"?
[20:37] <sjm> StaRetji, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[20:37] <Scunizi> Svy: try just adding a new printer and use the Lexmark 5000 driver that is supplied with ubuntu.. google links say it will print fine but won't scan or fax
[20:37] <therealpsychx> Anyone know where that stickied thread is that shows examples of malicious code? It was on ubuntuforums and was a warning to people.
[20:37] <edwinpino> someone speaks Spanish
[20:38] <Scunizi> !es | edwinpino
[20:38] <sjm> edwinpino, /join #ubuntu-es
[20:38] <maco> therealpsychx: http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=327
[20:38] <ilovefairuz> edwinpino: write:  /join #ubuntu-es
[20:38] <realopty> hi
[20:38] <calmdude> hi
[20:38] <StaRetji> sjm, thx, I know how to install and configure grub, I just thought adding correct append line to syslinux would solve my problem
[20:38] <edwinpino> ocun
[20:38] <sjm> StaRetji, you might try in a syslinux channel?
[20:38] <lachouffe> is there a way to know the origin of an installed package ?
[20:38] <therealpsychx> maco: Perfect! Thanks a lot!
[20:39] <lachouffe> assuming that i have many "deb"  entries in my source.list
[20:39] <ilovefairuz> mahound: start-pulseaudio-kde gives what ?
[20:39] <maco> lachouffe: "apt-cache policy $PACKAGENAME" tells which repo has that version...
[20:39] <StaRetji> sjm, I'm there for more than an hour, no reply
[20:39] <edwinpino> 私は日本からの人々に会ってほしい
[20:39] <edwinpino> 私は日本からの人々に会ってほしい
[20:39] <FloodBot4> edwinpino: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <maco> edwinpino: english only
[20:39] <StaRetji> sjm, hah, somebody replied, brb
[20:40] <lachouffe> maco, nice i'll try that
[20:41] <realopty> which is faster read/write performance CD or a flash drive?
[20:41] <Maletor> If I want to be able to do hardware acceleration (like VDPAU) for an ATI Radeon HD, what do I do?
[20:41] <maco> !japan | edwinpino
[20:41] <maco> !ja | edwinpino
[20:41] <calmdude> flash
[20:41] <Jinxed-> How do I add a static route to something to an interface where vlan trunking is enabled
[20:41] <ilovefairuz> realopty: flash
[20:41] <mahound> ilovefairuz, i don't have that... i'm using gnome
[20:42] <jongleur> ilovefairuz: may I send you the output via pm here? the ethernet routes are not configured yet, so I only can access already-known domains, I think
[20:42] <ilovefairuz> mahound: just try it
[20:42] <ghoulsblade> hi all, ubuntu 10.4 here, i activated auto-hide for the gnome panel a few minutes ago, and since then a process named "gnome-panel" consumes 100% cpu , can't open options for reset, any idea what to do or where the options are stored ?
[20:42] <ilovefairuz> !paste | jongleur
[20:42] <Oer> !resetpanels
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[20:42] <mahound> ilovefairuz, "command not found", as expected
[20:42] <FloodBot4> edwinpino: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:42] <realopty> anyone know how to boot a computer from a CD to tell it to boot from a flash drive?
[20:42] <calmdude> can intel vga's decode mkv videos (720p/1080p) with open source driver?
[20:42] <maco> ghoulsblade: options are stored in gconf
[20:42] <haavaros> I'm using empathy on ubuntu 10.04, and use two work areas. When I have empathy opened in area #1, new messages still produce a button on my lower task bar. Can I disable this?
[20:43] <maco> ghoulsblade: if you run gconf-editor and navigate to ... i think its /apps/gnome-panel/  you can change settings
[20:43] <haavaros> I'm using empathy on ubuntu 10.04, and use two work areas. When I have empathy opened in area #1, new messages still produce a button on my lower task bar in area #2. Can I disable this?
[20:43] <ghoulsblade> maco, thanks, will try, computer a bit unresponsive
[20:43] <maco> ghoulsblade: killall gnome-panel <-- might help
[20:43] <ghoulsblade> tried it, restarts all the time
[20:43] <maco> ghoulsblade: itll automatically respawn, but maybe in a sane state
[20:44] <markus___> Trying to install Ubuntu Server from USB-memory stick but it says "You installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted"...
[20:44] <profxavier> "No make, you'll have to rebuild your databases by hand :(  * Not configured, not started." I get this error when I run sudo /etc/init.d/sendmail restart
[20:44] <Quiet_guy> How do I list a conf file to my term window?
[20:45] <profxavier> Quiet_guy cat /etc/service/service.conf
[20:45] <ghoulsblade> i'm afraid not, just tried again, result was gui and even mouse hanging for around 10 sek
[20:45] <yofel> calmdude: what was the problem again? (so we don't talk in +1)
[20:45] <Quiet_guy> Thanks
[20:45] <ghoulsblade> and it's back already
[20:45] <theoctagon> profxavier: useless use of cat award?
[20:45] <calmdude> excuse me yofel?
[20:45] <theoctagon> Quiet_guy: less /etc/service/service.conf
[20:45] <profxavier> theoctagon: ill accept it :D
[20:45] <oCean_> profxavier: try: sudo make -C /etc/mail (that'll rebuild config databases after editing for example submit.mc)
[20:45] <yofel> calmdude: you said in +1 that you had nvidia issues ;)
[20:45] <calmdude> oh yep
[20:45] <theoctagon> profxavier: you are wasting a process :P
[20:46] <YzN> hello
[20:46] <profxavier> theoctagon: my apologies for my offensive behaviour
[20:46] <YzN> I have connected my external hard drive to ubuntu, but it doesn't seem to recognize it?
[20:46] <YzN> hard disk*
[20:47] <theoctagon> profxavier: accepted - I am just jokin :)
[20:47] <markus___> Shouldn't it be possible to install Server from USB memory stick?
[20:47] <calmdude> well, i have a nvidia gt220 & lucid amd64. it crashes after i install proprietary drivers. never happened before, is it just me or a general problem?
[20:47] <theoctagon> profxavier: http://partmaps.org/era/unix/award.html
[20:47] <profxavier> oCean_, didnt work, no makefile found, would that have to do with the fact I have esmtp-run installed ?
[20:47] <profxavier> theoctagon, I am joking as well :D
[20:47] <iceroot> markus___: sure
[20:47] <guest1> join #distutils
[20:47] <therealpsychx> markus___: You might want to look into ubootin for that, it sets up your flash drive for you. It can also download most official distrobutions for you.
[20:48] <yofel> calmdude: er, crashes right after installing? do you mean the hardware drivers app or the whole sytem, or do you mean the system doesn't boot right after reboot
[20:48] <oCean_> profxavier: yeah, that could be. Sorry, got no other option to try then..
[20:48] <gnomefreak> thanks yofel :)
[20:48] <markus___> iceroot: Any idea why it complains about no CD-ROM?
[20:48] <calmdude> it boots with low res mode, i checked the nvidia settings manager and it says "not installed" too
[20:48] <iceroot> markus___: who? the bios? the installer?
[20:48] <Eftarjin> hi. any way to read a webm video with 10.4 packages ?
[20:48] <markus___> therealpsychx: I used the guide at the ubuntu download page, but will look at that
[20:49] <YzN> I have connected my external hard disk to ubuntu, but it doesn't seem to recognize it?
[20:49] <iceroot> !usb | markus___
[20:49] <calmdude> i created an xorg.conf file as nvidia settings manager suggests, so it looks working for now. but my bootloader res is lower and its not stable as it should be
[20:49] <ghoulsblade> maco, found it, it was the autohide, thanks man =)
[20:49] <spider> #join chaosradio
[20:49] <markus___> iceroot: I can boot the installer but after a while it says that there is no CD-rom, if I go to Test media it says that right away
[20:49] <Micheal`> calmdude, thats the same issue i was having
[20:49] <yofel> calmdude: oh, boot loader res being lower is a known issue
[20:49] <calmdude> man its so depressing
[20:50] <Micheal`> calmdude, did that happen to you after a update?
[20:50] <jongleur1> to repeat my problem: my wlan0 is gone at current ubuntu10.04, asus eee 1101HA. Worked before (today in the morning). output of sudo lshw -C network can be found at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/470388/
[20:50] <calmdude> before & after, confirmed with several fresh lucid installs
[20:50] <calmdude> also i386 & amd64
[20:50] <Micheal`> what card?
[20:51] <yofel> calmdude: low res on boot should be bug 563878 (if you have a launchpad account click on 'This bug affects ...' and please don't add a comment)
[20:51] <calmdude> gt220
[20:51] <jongleur1> I forgot: restart didn't help
[20:51] <calmdude> pcie
[20:51] <theoctagon> 61% of maverick meerkat download
[20:51] <yofel> calmdude: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/563878
[20:51] <Micheal`> quadro 2700m
[20:51] <calmdude> yea i found some threads about it, but looks like underrated for a general issue. i need prop drivers for "vdpau" so i can decode HD videos with no cpu load
[20:51] <YzN> I have connected my external hard disk to ubuntu, but it doesn't seem to recognize it?
[20:52] <calmdude> i cant make it with nouveau drivers
[20:52] <yofel> calmdude: yes, nouveau has no vdpau support (and won't have it for a while I guess)
[20:52] <ilovefairuz> YzN: any relevant messages in /var/log/messages ?
[20:52] <Micheal`> same calmdude i was running with 10.04 since release and this jsut happened to me
[20:52] <Shagnasty> YzN: Do other USB devices work?
[20:53] <yofel> calmdude: but the low res issue won't be fixed in lucid as it's too risky, the devs are trying to improve it in maverick but that broke other drivers currently
[20:53] <ghoulsblade> should i file a bugreport ? what url can i use ?
[20:54] <harvi> YzN: ubuntu version?
[20:54] <calmdude> michael, i even make 256.35 drivers work with "blacklist this & that" routines, still dont feel ok crashable on any kernel update. yep yofel hope meerkat will be better than current nightmare.
[20:54] <seidos> !lamp
[20:54] <YzN> shagnasty: USB devices work and am able to view, so are the internal hard disks, but this hard disk connected via the USB does not show. I would also like to tell you that when I was on windows XP, it was asking me to format it, howver works normal on windows 7.
[20:54] <yofel> calmdude: where did you get 256.35 from?
[20:55] <calmdude> from nvidia.com
[20:55] <yofel> eeeek
[20:55] <oCean_> YzN: immediately after connect, what does 'dmesg' output
[20:55] <calmdude> and it was pretty nice, anyway i bet it can crash after kernel update
[20:55] <tomi> stats /p
[20:55] <yofel> calmdude: well, while that certainly is a way to get them, they don't provide a proper .deb package so the drivers don't survive a kernel update
[20:55] <calmdude> so i leave it too, right now messing with 195 from repo
[20:55] <Shagnasty> Is it NTFS or FAT?
[20:56] <yofel> calmdude: the x-updates ppa has a proper packaged 256, let me get the link
[20:56] <calmdude> nope
[20:56] <calmdude> not working too
[20:56] <YzN> harvi: the latest
[20:57] <yofel> calmdude: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/
[20:57] <YzN> oCean_: I have no idea what's dmesg mean, however it doesn't make a sound or doesn't even show it on the desktop like other flash drives.
[20:57] <calmdude> ppa, already try n fail... i make 256 work with improvising 3 different how tos (one of them was x-swat ppa)
[20:57] <Scunizi> calmdude: the binary driver will always crash after a kernel update (unless you have dkms installed and then it's not guaranteed ).. simply re install the driver... the same version that was there before the upgrade.
[20:57] <YzN> USB, hardisks etc.
[20:57] <Shagnasty> YzN: Which file system is the drive NTFS or FAT?
[20:57] <Stormx2> Hi. MPD works fine with pulseaudio but when I open firefox and try to play a youtube video, not only do I get no sound from the video but pulseaudio stops giving off sound altogether. Suggestions?
[20:57] <Leszczoman> Ohai
[20:57] <Leszczoman> !pl
[20:57] <yofel> calmdude: odd, that works perfectly fine here with my 250gts
[20:58] <calmdude> gt220 here
[20:58] <calmdude> it must be worked for somebody, feedback says it is
[20:58] <oCean_> YzN: no I get that. That is why you have to run 'dmesg' command. See last couple of lines (like last 10-15) It should show that the system actually sees an usb device connect. Has nothing to do with showing up on desktop
[20:58] <calmdude> so what if i downgrade to karmic, what about the up to dateness? :-)
[20:58] <yofel> calmdude: hm, maybe what failed was the 'Hardware Drivers' app, not the driver itself
[20:59] <AvonGenesis> How can i get a higher resolution? I usually run 1440x900 on windows, but im limited to 1280x768 on ubuntu. Can i raise it somehow?
[20:59] <YzN> Shagnasty: the problem is that I'm not able to know, it belongs to my friend, however for it to work on XP it asks me to format it to NTFS which is a problem in deleting all files on Disk.
[20:59] <oCean_> calmdude: downgrade?
[20:59] <yofel> calmdude: you could try to install 'nvidia-current' in synaptic and run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' in a terminal, should work
[20:59] <yofel> don't forget to reboot
[20:59] <yofel> not only logout
[21:00] <calmdude> been there done that yofel and it cause the low res bootloader
[21:00] <YzN> dmesg
[21:00] <YzN> soz
[21:00] <oCean_> YzN: yes, don't paste here
[21:00] <Oer> low res bootloader is that any problem ?
[21:00] <yofel> calmdude: well, that's partly the drivers fault, you can certailny work around that, but that doesn't mean the driver doesn't work
[21:00] <calmdude> i make the bootloader res higher with grub workaround, well
[21:00] <yofel> calmdude: it's just that the splash and the nvidia / ati (and some other) drivers don't work well with the splash
[21:01] <yofel> *don't work well together
 you can force it in xorg.conf. But I suggest to backup original file.
[21:02] <oCean_> !afk > MichaelSOG
[21:02] <jongleur1> nobody who can help me here?
[21:02] <calmdude> im just disappointment man, switched to nvidia from ati before ages. installed nvidia prop drivers, kernels etc with no problem... and now, lucid ruined the whole thing, when im drooling for vdpau
[21:03] <calmdude> i can switch to intel, if it has vdpau
[21:03] <Shagnasty> YzN: open console, type "tail -f /var/log/messages"  then unplug and replug the external drive, it should tell you what it sees
[21:03] <calmdude> x4500 was incredible on compiz with open source drivers
[21:04] <yofel> calmdude: well, that's partly the fault of the devs deciding to use plymouth for the splash knowing that it won't work well with proprietary drivers, not nvidias fault :/
[21:04] <YzN> Shagnasty: http://pastebin.com/NBkZUnSQ      >> from the dmesg
[21:05] <oCean_> YzN: good, your usb disk is recognized, it's /dev/sdb
[21:05] <yofel> jongleur1: did you install a kernel update? does the kernel log show something?
[21:05] <oCean_> YzN: try "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" to see what partitions are there
[21:05] <fling> crap
[21:05] <calmdude> good old days :-/
[21:05] <jongleur1> yofel: could be, yes. was there a new kernel update availlable today? I think so, yes
[21:05] <YzN> Shagnasty: Second command: http://pastebin.com/S6t0URrZ
[21:05] <calmdude> what i lost if i switch to karmic?
[21:06] <AvonGenesis> harvi: Sounds good. After i modify the xorg.conf, how would i apply the changes? Restart or login/logout?
[21:06] <fling> i was trying to update to ubuntustudio-rt and closed the terminal..
[21:06] <calmdude> karmic was not problematic with nvidia props
[21:07] <YzN> oCean: here it is: http://pastebin.com/MqyYsxkU
[21:07] <Shagnasty> YzN: Looks to me like your drive is being detected, you just need to mount it
 restart PC or xorg
[21:07] <oCean_> YzN: ok, cool - it's NTFS. Try "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[21:08] <besogon> hi and good night. Who's got eeePC1000 and installed 10.04?
[21:08] <YzN> oCean_::mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[21:08] <yofel> jongleur1: well, I'm not sure, you could try to hold left shift pressed on the bios screen on boot which should give you the grub menu and try an older kernel, can you pastebin the dmesg output first though?
[21:08] <calmdude> i got besoon
[21:08] <calmdude> 1000h
[21:08] <KE1HA> da-bayman, if Karmac provided you with what you "wanted" and worked well with your driver / kernel combinaiton and VDPAU, maybe thats your real answer.
[21:08] <calmdude> besogon sorry
[21:08] <iceroot> !tab | calmdude
[21:08] <besogon> calmdude: have you got any  troubles with fun contorl?
[21:08] <Shagnasty> YzN: you need to install the ntfs driver " apt-get install ntfs3g"
[21:09] <calmdude> what you mean with fun control? fan control?
[21:09] <oCean_> YzN: you might have to install ntfs support: "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[21:09] <besogon> calmdude: cooler control
[21:09] <besogon> sorry
[21:09] <KE1HA> da-bayman, sri that was ment for calmude.
[21:09] <calmdude> it is kinda overheating but im not sure if it is fan control
[21:09] <Shagnasty> YzN: sorry I missed the dash
[21:09] <calmdude> u can try "lubuntu" for 1000h
[21:10] <calmdude> google "lubuntu"
[21:10] <calmdude> it is the best derivative for netbooks
[21:11] <YzN> oCean_: http://pastebin.com/j8ydxCT9
[21:11] <manday> Can anyone help me getting rid of that awfully large font in Nautilus? It looks like nautilus thinks im blind! I already set default zoom level of List view to 50% but nothing changed. Besides that, different directories appear to have different settings - how do I prevent this from happening?
[21:12] <YzN> Shagnasty: says ntfs-3g is already the newest version
[21:12] <oCean_> YzN: hm, I'd reckon it should mount with ntfs-3g installed. Re-try the mount command, adding type: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[21:12] <besogon> calmdude: hm... I haven't seen eee-control for 10.04 that's why I'm still using 9.04
[21:13] <Database> Hey, I'm having a problem with my Ubuntu server and SSH.
[21:13] <Database> Every now and again, my SSH connection to my server - on the local network - drops out. I'm using PuTTY to connect to it.
[21:13] <calmdude> u better to try "lubuntu" besogon not "ubuntu"
[21:14] <Database> When it does this, it's generally a few minutes - or more - before it responds to connections again.
[21:14] <calmdude> it has less cpu&memory usage so it will be cooler & faster than ubuntu
[21:14] <calmdude> besogon: http://lubuntu.net/
[21:14] <Database> The error message is either "Software caused connection abort" or "connection refused" - at random.
[21:15] <besogon> calmdude: lubuntu I heard about that.
[21:15] <YzN> oCean_:http://pastebin.com/SptbWL8K
[21:15] <calmdude> yeah, im using it on my 1000h and feels ok
[21:15] <calmdude> no 3d desktop, i should warn u
[21:15] <besogon> calmdude: I made mistake eee-control has developed for 10.04!! http://greg.geekmind.org/eee-control/
[21:15] <besogon> fine
[21:15] <rob_p> Database: Maybe you have some misconfigured packet filtering on the server?  Do you run a host-based firewall on it?
[21:15] <calmdude> used eee-control and some other applets before karmic
[21:16] <Database> rob_p, unless it's default, no.
[21:16] <calmdude> not practical at all, give lubuntu a try man ;-)
[21:16] <rob_p> Database: No.  There's none by default.
[21:16] <Database> rob_p, okay, then the answer is no, I don't. :)
[21:17] <YzN> oCean_:http://pastebin.com/SptbWL8K
[21:17] <calmdude> i can also report 1000h & lubuntu has twice battery life than ubuntu
[21:17] <rob_p> Database: I've had issues over un-reliable networks with SSH (such as over satellite) and the addition of, "ClientAliveInterval 60" to sshd_config helped a lot.
[21:17] <Database> okay, thank you.
[21:18] <Database> I'll try that.
[21:18] <rob_p> Database: But over a local LAN, you'd think it would be *very* reliable!
[21:18] <devadatt1> Using  alias ca='echo "scale=3;$1"|bc -l'  gives me the error message "File 2+3 is unavailable". Anybody knows why?
[21:18] <edbian> rob_p, I had the same problem when I was in college with their lan.  Same fix as well.
[21:18] <besogon> calmdude: may be in Sepnptember I will ... Now I very busy to learn something else but my work. :-/
[21:18] <Database> Well, my LAN is running 13 computers over a series of rather cheap and nasty switches
[21:18] <YzN> shagnasty: http://pastebin.com/SptbWL8K
[21:18] <Database> So I would be inclined to doubt it!
[21:18]  * jongleur is searching for wlan0
[21:18] <rob_p> Database: You might run a packet sniffer to gain further insight if it persists.  Maybe you have an intermittant NIC, etc.
[21:19] <calmdude> ok, btw how old was 1000h. they known to be problematic with aging
[21:19]  * Database nods.
[21:19] <Database> Will do.
[21:19] <rob_p> edbian: Yeah, I've come to set all my SSH servers with that setting, just to make it more robust over VPN, etc.
[21:19] <calmdude> mine has no any major overheating problem for now, but not runs cool as i unbox it
[21:20] <Database> Hmmm. Interestingly enough, all Samba and web connections still work fine.
[21:20] <webstart> anyone here from ubuntuusers MANNHEIM??
[21:21] <besogon> fan control can be used even without eee-control, but with using console.
[21:21] <rob_p> Database: That is odd!  Do you have, "TCPKeepAlive yes" in your config as well?
[21:21] <calmdude> so why are you wanna control fans besogon?
[21:22] <yofel> webstart: shouldn't you ask in #ubuntu-de rather for germany?
[21:22] <calmdude> runs too noisy or too hot? cant u make it optimal and leave it?
[21:23] <webstart> well i think youŕ 're right yofel thanks so much
[21:23] <yofel> np ;)
[21:23] <besogon> calmdude: I like work on my netbook without the wire. If fan works mightly then battery dies faster
[21:23] <oCean_> YzN: Was away. It's either one a messed up partition, or you should try the mount command not with -t ntfs, but -t ntfs-3g
[21:23] <Database> rob_p, I'll try that.
[21:24] <calmdude> fans r not kill battery as u think, most of the energy sucked by LCD ligh
[21:24] <calmdude> *light
[21:24] <calmdude> make it darker and u will see the difference
[21:24] <YzN> oCean_: It isn't cause it works on windows 7 where it was formatted.
[21:25] <calmdude> btw, as i said before lubuntu has twice battery life than ubuntu
[21:25] <besogon> ok
[21:25] <n0a1ias> where are the backtrack reposotories located?
[21:25] <devin> hi i am helping someone (an older lady) over the phone who is on linux and neither her mouse nor her keyboard is responding
[21:25] <YzN> oCean_: both give me the same error
[21:25] <rob_p> Database: Here's a little more info that may be worth looking into:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/open-ssh-server-connection-drops-out-after-few-or-n-minutes-of-inactivity.html
[21:25] <oCean_> YzN: yes, but windows has it's .. perks. For example if it wasn't disconnected *very* cleanly on windows, Linux can't access it.
[21:25] <Database> rob_p, yup, it's there
[21:25] <edbian> n0a1ias, backtrack is a totally different distro.  You can't just add those repos to sources.list
[21:25] <oCean_> YzN: in that case, I'm out of options :(
[21:26] <Shagnasty> YzN: do you have gparted installed on your machine?
[21:26] <n0a1ias> hey
[21:26] <YzN> Shagnasty: that's an application?
[21:26] <YzN> oCean_: No worries thanks anyways.
[21:26] <Shagnasty> YzN: yes, its a partition app
[21:26] <chaos_> Hy
[21:27] <calmdude> yes u can install gparted by type that on your terminal "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[21:27] <n0a1ias> wat no you can, i know its not recommended but im not gonna complain if i break anything
[21:27] <Shagnasty> YzN: It might allow you to see the drive and tell you what the issue is
[21:27] <devin> hi i am helping someone (an older lady) over the phone who is on linux and neither her mouse nor her keyboard is responding
[21:27] <calmdude> it will be appear on the menu
[21:27] <Database> nope, still getting "connection refused". :/
[21:27] <YzN> Shagnastu: I', downloading it atm.
[21:27] <n0a1ias> devin try checking the cables
[21:27] <Laibsch> Hello,  I use encrypted home FS for my Lucid netbook.  ~/.Private has grown to over 64G by now and is starting to overflow my partition it seems.  What is causing this and what can I do?
[21:28] <edbian> n0a1ias, Alright, you're right.  At least you know :)  Here: http://boreditguy.com/blog/?p=152
[21:28] <n0a1ias> thanks
[21:28] <Database> I'm beginning to suspect this is PuTTY or Windows' problem.
[21:28] <Database> I don't think it did this when I was in Ubuntu a while ago.
[21:28] <Laibsch> and it's filling up quickly
[21:28] <Laibsch> 600MB in about 5 minutes
[21:28] <YzN> Shagnasty: I opened
[21:28] <zizo> welcome Ubuntu world
[21:28] <Jordan_U> devin: Has this always been happening or is it a recent problem?
[21:28] <rob_p> Database: You restarted your SSH server after making changes to the config, I presume?
[21:28] <Database> Yeah. :)
[21:28] <Database> Been bitten by that one a few times before - I always check to now!
[21:28] <zizo> i want ask
[21:29] <rob_p> Database: I figured.  Just covering all the bases.  :-)
[21:29] <zizo> how can i run adobe photoshop cs4 on ubuntu
[21:29] <zizo> how can i run adobe photoshop cs4 on ubuntu
[21:29] <Shagnasty> YzN: what do you see?
[21:29] <zizo> ?
[21:29] <Database> I understand what you mean xD
[21:29] <FloodBot4> zizo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <cypher-neo> zizo, It's quite simple actually
[21:29] <n0a1ias> edbian, http://repo.offensive-security.com/dist/bt4 binary i cant connect to it ive been trying to for all today
[21:29] <JenniferB> hi folks.. i downloaded a postgresql.bin file... and I tried to follow this guide but ./postgresql.bin isn't working for although they say that's the way here... what am I missing ? http://www.enterprisedb.com/learning/pginst_guide.do
[21:29] <Database> Does it work under Wine these days?
[21:29] <n0a1ias> is the site down or am i just unlucky?
[21:29] <cypher-neo> zizo, All you need is Wine and the playonlinux packages installed.
[21:29] <Database> ... really?
[21:30] <appamajig> can anyone point me in the right direction to change my wubi install to an install with a dedicated partition? I saw a way to do it on a forum at one time, but now I cannot find it again...
[21:30] <Database> If that's all, then I am one step closer to dumping Windows :P
[21:30] <Database> rob_p, I think I'm going to check the connection under Ubuntu.
[21:30] <Database> It wasn't causing problems earlier, and I started getting this problem again as soon as I booted into Windows.
[21:30] <n0a1ias> hey can anyone elce access this site?
[21:31] <n0a1ias> http://repo.offensive-security.com/dist/bt4 binary
[21:31] <rob_p> Database: I'm out of ideas at the moment.  Good luck.  I hope you get it figured out.
[21:31] <cypher-neo> Database, I've never had a problem running Photoshop on Linux through Wine. However, I discovered last year, much to my surprise that GIMP on Linux is quite different and much more professional a program than Windows GIMP.
[21:31] <Database> Thank you
[21:31] <Oer> n0alias ubuntu does not support BT
[21:31] <Database> I'll report back if I find anything interesting :)
[21:31] <YzN> Shagnasty: I opened GParted, and lists the partition names(/dev/sda1 etc.), File System(4 are ntfs, one is extended and one is unallocated), and then the Mount Point, Size, Used, Unused, Flags.
[21:31] <rob_p> Database: welcome
[21:32] <cypher-neo> zizo: Do you need any help getting those packages installed?
[21:32] <kerebrus> cypher-neo I would like to know how you got cs4 to work under wine mine always craps out during install.
[21:32] <cypher-neo> kerebrus: I never had any problems.
[21:32] <n0a1ias> Oer, yea I know im just trying anyway :P
[21:32] <zizo> i have this packages really
[21:32] <zizo> but the program
[21:32] <zizo> have error
[21:33] <kerebrus> cypher-neo lol guess it hates me
[21:33] <cypher-neo> kerebrus and zizo: There is one other option I've used to get Windows programs running.
[21:33] <Shagnasty> YzN: Can you change the drive in top right corner to something like /dev/sdb?
[21:33] <zizo> what this is ?
[21:33] <kerebrus> cypher-neo vmware?
[21:34] <zizo> cypher-neo : what it ?
[21:34] <kerebrus> JenniferB what is it not doing or doing?
[21:34] <cypher-neo> kerebrus and zizo: You could try installing the VirtualBox OSE package. Install Windows on a virtual file, and install Photoshop on your Windows in a window.
[21:34] <utkanos> i am having an issue getting a 4 port Nvidia quadro to work properly in ubuntu 10, like many I get the black screen however it completely kills the box, no input is accepted
[21:35] <cypher-neo> kerebrus and zizo: Any program that I have Wine problems with, always works in VirtualBox
[21:35] <erkan^> A connect between bluetooth and scanner doesn't work still :( I have HP OfficeJet 6310. Perhaps know someone how?
[21:35] <ndxtg> need help: I'm setting up a small ssh sock. When I type this on my local machine: ssh -D 1080 -p 443 user@my.server.com  it logs in the remote machine, is that correct?
[21:35] <utkanos> i have tried every possible driver out there and they all result in the same problem
[21:35] <kerebrus> cypher-neo you use sun virtualbox?
[21:35] <utkanos> has anyone been able to get around this?
[21:35] <appamajig> can anyone point me in the right direction to change my wubi install to an install with a dedicated partition? I saw a way to do it on a forum at one time, but now I cannot find it again...
[21:35] <YzN> Shagnasty: On the top right corner it shows: /dev/sda  (931.51GB) and has a small arrow next to it, however when I click on the arrow or the actual button it just you know...comes out and another click goes in.
[21:35] <cypher-neo> kerebrus: Umm, no.
[21:35] <zizo> cypher-neo: i really have vmbox and i have windows on it
[21:35] <cypher-neo> kerebrus, i use the virtualbox package available directly through Synaptic
[21:35] <zizo> cypher-neo : but my ram is very low
[21:36] <kerebrus> zizo lol yea thats my problem
[21:36] <groftsnurw> hello
[21:36]  * cypher-neo ponders on low RAM
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[21:36] <Shagnasty> YzN: wow man, I dont know, I have never seen gparted not recognize a drive.
[21:37] <rapture> in lucid services don't seem to start at boot like they should - for example mysql and mythbackend
[21:37] <rapture> ideas?
[21:37] <cypher-neo> zizo, Have you tried using GIMP?
[21:37] <utkanos> i am having an issue getting a 4 port Nvidia quadro to work properly in ubuntu 10, like many I get the black screen however it completely kills the box, no input is accepted
[21:37] <cypher-neo> zizo, It's really not that bad on Linux. :)
[21:37] <Shagnasty> YzN: Your computer is recognizing it as /dev/sdb but apparently it will not read it
[21:38] <nilsen> hey
[21:38] <KE1HA> zizo, GIMP and Blener make a power combinaiton for Photo / 3D Editing. It's a bit of a leaning curve, but well worth it. Blender is the equal to 3D Studio Max.
[21:38] <zizo> cypher-neo : yes i'm try it really but i love photoshop this is expert
[21:38] <cypher-neo> zizo, There are a couple hundred GIMP packages that can be installed as plugins available in Synaptic and online which can turn GIMP into a program that rivals Photoshop. Blender is also a good 3D program... what KE1HA said.
[21:38] <YzN> Shanasty: Owh no idea...I'm uploading a snapshot now, and I would just like to add that my friend told me it's password protected if that makes any difference?
[21:39] <YzN> Shagnasty: http://i29.tinypic.com/24yu7gl.jpg
[21:39] <Shagnasty> YzN: How did he protect it?
[21:39] <zizo> KE1HA , cypher-neo : ok thankx
[21:39] <zizo> i will try
[21:39] <ledoktre> Hello to everyone !
[21:40] <utkanos> can anyone assist getting an nvidia quadro 4 display card working in 10.04?
[21:40] <zizo> ledoktre : Hello
[21:40] <zizo> ledoktre : welcome in ubuntu world
[21:40] <copumpkin> I have a xen instance with ubuntu server on it and I'm trying to install isync. On another ubuntu box I have apt-get install isync works fine, but my new instance seems to not have the correct source. Does anyone know how I can find what source isync is on?
[21:41] <YzN> Shagnasty: Just give me a second I'll ask him
[21:41] <utkanos> nothing suggested here has worked:
[21:41] <utkanos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[21:41] <Shagnasty> YzN: ok
[21:41] <sudipta> where i can get gekos itunes theme for lucid?
[21:42] <Oer> sudipta, you found no theme ? then it does not exist no longer ?
[21:42] <theoctagon> has anyone got an idea to version control digital images without bloating the repository?
[21:42] <theoctagon> is there any specific one for binary files?
[21:42] <ledoktre> I was hoping someone in the group today might be able to answer an interesting question.  I was having trouble with the mouse themes not working, and traced it back to a bug in compiz-core.  I have patched the compiz-core deb file as instructed, and installed it.  The problem though, the very next time the pc updates, it wants to install the original compiz-core.  I am trying to "pin" my...
[21:42] <ledoktre> ...version, but because the original and patched compiz core have the same name, I can't seem to figure out how to pin mine.  Anyone know how I might get the update manager to hide compiz-core from updating?
[21:42] <matrixa1> utkanos, using lucid? do this "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates"
[21:43] <sudipta> Oer:ok
[21:43] <Shagnasty> YzN: If he used Bitlocker in windows 7 ultimate, you probably wont be able to open the drive
[21:43] <sudipta> is there anything in lucid like itunes and safari?
[21:44] <appamajig> ledoktre: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=494866
[21:44] <theoctagon> ledoktre: I think there was an option in apt to blacklist installed packages from updating
[21:44] <itsjar> What could you guys advise me when I'm trying to fix my computer after replacing an nvidia card with an ati card?
[21:45] <appamajig> itsjar which ati card?
[21:45] <KE1HA> appamajig, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[21:45] <itsjar> HD 5830
[21:45] <itsjar> Radeon
[21:45] <cypher-neo> sudipta, What ITunes functions are you looking for?
[21:45] <KE1HA> appamajig, stri thats for sudipta
[21:45] <appamajig> sudipta: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[21:46] <KE1HA> tnx :-)
[21:47] <cypher-neo> sudipta, Most functions that ITunes can do are available in other Linux packages.
[21:47] <sudipta> i am studying math. is there any software like mathematica or matlab for ubuntu???
[21:47] <itsjar> appamajig: I tried several things as uninstall nvidia and install fglrx, but now I get the error (EE) can't load fireGL DRM library
[21:47] <appamajig> itsjar: well, get to an emergency root terminal with network and remove nvidia* (sudo apt-get purge nvidia*) then install nouveau (sudo apt-get install nouveau)
[21:47] <zizo> i have big problem with old ATI driver
[21:47] <ravenheart> : sudiptayou could use octave
[21:48] <ravenheart> : sudipta you could use octave
[21:48] <appamajig> itsjar: probably would do it... might want to download/install ati's newest drivers
[21:48] <itsjar> nouveau is?
[21:48] <bidaboy> hi all, i have a problem using msfconsole, when i use it in ethernet it work but that doesnt work on the web
[21:48] <appamajig> itsjar: yeah, that's the free (gpl I think) radeon drivers with 3D acceleration
[21:48] <zizo> i have big problem with old ATI driver
[21:48] <zizo> any help plz
[21:48] <calmdude> if i install karmic koala, then update it (not upgrade to lucid) will applications be up to date?
[21:48] <shawnboy> I'm having difficulty upgrading Firefox from 3.5.6 to 3.6.8 using Ubuntuzilla on 9.04 32-bit. Any help?
[21:48] <itsjar> whow, thanks for the nvidia comment.. I still had far more nvndia then I thought
[21:48] <cypher-neo> sudipta, There are lots of matlab packages avilable in Synaptic.
[21:49] <appamajig> zizo: what radeon card do you have?
[21:49] <cypher-neo> sudipta, I was able to find them by searching "matlab" in the Quick find bar in the Package Manager
[21:49] <appamajig> itsjar: np
[21:49] <bidaboy> i meant that msfconsole work using local network but not using web, some one have any idea?
[21:49] <theoctagon> calmdude: depends what you call up2date
[21:49] <calmdude> i am planning to install karmic instead of lucid, so i can use nvidia prop drivers. is it a good idea?
[21:50] <calmdude> firefox for example
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> calmdude, packages don't get version updates during a release, so the packages in Karmic will by older then in Lucid.
[21:50] <calmdude> :-/
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[21:50] <itsjar> pc is upgrading atm, I was behind on updates, I'll let you know later on how it went
[21:50] <calmdude> ok thanx
[21:50] <ledoktre> appamajig: I checked out that link.  That scenario seems to be just the ticket.  I am trying it right now, but for some reason, it still shows compiz-core in the list to update, it just is de-selected.  Is this normal behaviour?
[21:50] <appamajig> itsjar: ok... good luck
[21:50] <ravenheart> Hi, i am used to kde and if i want to switch a tab in the terminal (console) i was able to  use <shift>+<left|right> , how can i do it using gnome, or where can i adjust it? (i dont like ubuntu to open a new terminal with <ctrl><shift>+<n>)
[21:50] <theoctagon> calmdude: some packages are stuck on a specific version unless you activate backports repos
[21:50] <ManDay> Can anyone help me getting rid of that awfully large font in Nautilus? It looks like nautilus thinks im blind! I already set default zoom level of List view to 50% but nothing changed. Besides that, different directories appear to have different settings - how do I prevent this from happening?
[21:50] <zizo> appamajig : ATI Radeon 7000
[21:50] <ledoktre> theoctagon: I will search for those terms.  I have been looking all afternoon and this conversation has proven the most useful thus far. :-)
[21:50] <zizo> appamajig : ATI Radeon 7000
[21:50] <appamajig> ledoktre: honestly, I have no idea, I just did a quick google search... I like what someone else said about a blacklist...
[21:51] <calmdude> i can activate anything necessary, is it possible to sun a karmic with up to date apps like firefox etc?
[21:51] <calmdude> *run
[21:51] <appamajig> zizo: ok, what's happening?
[21:51] <YzN> Shagnasty: That !@#~'s mobile is off atm. Is there any way to remove password, I know it.
[21:51] <sansname> hello there
[21:51] <theoctagon> ledoktre: :)
[21:51] <karaeska> hi
[21:51] <zizo> appamajig : when i install it ubuntu has been broken
[21:52] <appamajig> ManDay: I think there's an option to always use the same settings in all nautilus instances, but I'm not sure
[21:52] <sansname> a while ago i read that ubuntu will get a global menu like mac. is that true?
[21:52] <Black_> hi can you tell me how to edit bashrc file
[21:52] <shawnboy> can I get some help upgrading Firefox on 9.04 using Ubuntuzilla?
[21:52] <YzN> Shagnasty: That !@#~'s mobile is off atm. Is there any way to remove password, I know it.
[21:52] <appamajig> zizo: OK, what command do you use to install it?
[21:52] <Shagnasty> YzN: bitlocker requires a windows machine to access the drive
[21:52] <theoctagon> Black_: vi ~/.bashrc
[21:52] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[21:53] <mayank_> hi
[21:53] <kosaidpo> does anyone kno the classooms for ubutu
[21:53] <calmdude> hello
[21:53] <zizo> appamajig : i install it from ubuntu software center
[21:53] <kosaidpo> and the schedule ??
[21:53] <sansname> Black_: gedit ~/.bashrc
[21:53] <mayank_> ny body knows about ltsp??
[21:53] <sudipta> how to install grub without installing the os again?
[21:53] <ravenheart> Black_: vi ~/.bashrc
[21:53] <theoctagon> shawnboy: ALT+F2 gnome-terminal first
[21:53] <YzN> Shagnasty: XP works or needs Win 7?
[21:53] <maco> kosaidpo: #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat the schedule is in their topics
[21:53] <theoctagon> urgs
[21:54] <theoctagon> shawnboy: I meant to talk do Black_
[21:54] <kosaidpo> maco and where i can find the topics ?
[21:54] <zizo> appamajig : i install it from ubuntu software center
[21:54] <ZykoticK9> theoctagon, ravenheart WHY would you both recommend vi to someone asking how to edit bashrc?  I'm a vi guy myself, but why recommend it to others?
[21:54] <kerebrus> YzN you will need windows 7
[21:54] <appamajig> zizo ok, get to a console and type this sudo apt-get purge nouveau; sudo apt-get purge radeon*; sudo apt-get purge ati*; sudo apt-get install nouveau
[21:54] <Shagnasty> YzN:Xp should work, assuming he used bitlocker to go, it will launch an application to ask for the password
[21:54] <maco> kosaidpo: depends on your client. most graphical ones show the channel topic at the top of the window
[21:54] <ravenheart> can anyone tell me the shortcut to cahnge tab in terminal?
[21:54] <appamajig> zizo: make sure that you're not in x-windows
[21:54] <KE1HA> sudipta, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[21:55] <theoctagon> ZykoticK9: sed s/vi/gedit/g - happy?
[21:55] <zizo> appamajig : it is command not have problem
[21:55] <Shagnasty> YzN: If he didnt use bitlocker to go, you will need to attach it to the orignal machine it was encrypted on to access the drive
[21:55] <kosaidpo> maco i use xchat
[21:55] <sansname> kosaidpo: me 2
[21:55] <Black_> if i run the Doxygen,it tells tht bash:Doxygen:command not found
[21:55] <maco> kosaidpo: then yeah i think you should see the topic at the top of the window
[21:55] <theoctagon> ZykoticK9: maybe I am too used to use vi
[21:55] <etalyc> ravenheart: ctrl+pgup, or ctrl+pgdown
[21:55] <Black_> could you tell me how to set up Doxygen in bashrc
[21:55] <maco> kosaidpo: you see something that says "Official Ubuntu Support Channel..." at the top of this window while in this channel? thats the topic
[21:55] <YzN> Shagnasty: Alright, really really really much appreciated man(I'm guessing according to the name :D).
[21:56] <ravenheart> ZykoticK9: well i remember first time i tried out vi, it took me hitting all buttons to get into INSERT-mode ^^ , ok it is not best for beginners, and if vim not installed it is horror ^^
[21:56] <shawnboy> OK, no help with Ubuntuzilla today I can see. How about this one: Is there a reason I should avoid using 8.04 on an older machine just because it's out of its support life cycle?
[21:56] <theoctagon> Black_: maybe you should decapitalize the D ?
[21:56] <theoctagon> Black_: doxygen
[21:56] <Shagnasty> YzN: no problem, good luck
[21:56] <maco> Shagnasty: its not
[21:56] <zizo> appamajig : it is command not have problem
[21:56] <ravenheart> etalyc: is there a config file for this?
[21:56] <maco> Shagnasty: er not you
[21:56] <maco> shawnboy: its not
[21:56] <Black_> yeah :) got it
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> ravenheart, +1 on your vim/vi comment ;)
[21:56] <sansname> shawnboy: i prefer nano actually, i find it easier
[21:56] <maco> shawnboy: still 9 months left for 8.04 on desktop
[21:56] <shawnboy> maco it's not? I thought it was.
[21:56] <theoctagon> Black_:  or put the doxygen binary to your $PATH variable
[21:56] <KenShin133> Hey all, I installed ubuntu 10.04 a while ago  and had a good few problems im not willing to  deal with at the moment, So im on 9.10 Which  is fine, But im curious asto if i can get the  software center and gnome-terminal that they  had on 10.04? Is there a ppa or package for  those or are they heavily dependant on the way  10.04was built?
[21:56] <maco> shawnboy: 8.04 is LTS. 3yr on desktop
[21:56] <shawnboy> ok, let's say it is... then what's your answer?
[21:57] <Black_> thank you very much
[21:57] <appamajig> zizo: see my dcc chat window...
[21:57] <chrislabeard> Hey guys how can I check to see if a dns server is set up correctly?
[21:57] <chrislabeard> I forgot the commands
[21:57] <etalyc> ravenheart: in gnome-terminal just go to Edit->keyboard shortcuts
[21:57] <maco> shawnboy: nope... if you dont care about getting updates, use whatever you like
[21:57] <zizo> appamajig : this is failed
[21:57] <sansname> chrislabeard: maybe ping google.com
[21:57] <zizo> appamajig : Couldn't find package
[21:57] <sudipta> how to install nautilus elementary
[21:57] <chrislabeard> sansname: well I have my dns set up with my domain
[21:58] <shawnboy> maco: am I putting my machine/network at serious risk? or is it just no more software updates in general?
[21:58] <chrislabeard> sansname: I wanted to see if my domain is even trying to use that dns or not
[21:58] <itsjar> appamajig: nouveau should be standard available in the packages?
[21:58] <maco> shawnboy: no updates DOES imply no security updates
[21:58] <kosaidopo_> maco im on those rooms i dont anythin
[21:58] <theoctagon> chrislabeard: more /etc/resolv.conf
[21:58] <sansname> shawnboy: dunno. wasnt the netstat or so?
[21:58] <itsjar> the os i'm working on is puredyne which is ubuntu based, I can't find it
[21:58] <ravenheart> etalyc: ty, but can u tell me anyways what the configfile is? bashrc doesnt seem to have this
[21:58] <appamajig> itsjar: yep, it should be in there
[21:58] <shawnboy> maco: so from that perspective, it may not be wise to continue using out of support Ubuntu.
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> shawnboy, what maco is saying is that 8.04 is currently still supported, with updates.  But once a version has become EOL you SHOULD NOT use it.
[21:59] <theoctagon> chrislabeard: oh I missed the "server"
[21:59] <KE1HA> chrislabeard, dig example.com where example.dom is yoru domain
[21:59] <fling> i created an open wifi network..not related or given a bssid to connect to...i shared it to all users...in an atempt to make one ap connect to 3 networks at once...instead it is replicateing....????
[21:59] <chrislabeard> KE1HA: Okay i it doesn't show up than its not set up correctly ?
[21:59] <shawnboy> ok. thanks ZykoticK9 ... what I wanted to know.
[21:59] <maco> ZykoticK9: you *can* keep using it once it's EOL...its just stupid to do so ;-)
[21:59] <chrislabeard> KE1HA: I've tired that and I don't even see the dns at all but its listed as a name server on my domain
[21:59] <Priyank> anybody knows about ltsp??
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> maco, true!
[21:59] <itsjar> or is it xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ?
[22:00] <KE1HA> I wouls say yes, there's somethign not right. But you have to edit your resolve.conf first.
[22:00] <appamajig> itsjar: hmmm... one sec lemme double check
[22:00] <Priyank> ltsp configuration of dhcp.conf???
[22:00] <maco> kosaidopo_: see the line at the top of the window that has text? it has a few links in it? one of those links, when youre in #ubuntu-classroom points at the schedule
[22:00] <KE1HA> chrislabeard, here ya go: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dns-server-setup-using-bind-in-ubuntu.html
[22:00] <chrislabeard> KE1HA: When I'm inside my network if I edit my hosts file to point at the server It all works just fine so I'm not sure
[22:00] <shawnboy> maco, ZykoticK9, if I had it already setup on a machine for long time, I probably wouldn't worry about it, but if I were thinking about INSTALLING 8.04 with only a few months left before EOL, then sounds like I shouldn't.
[22:00] <chrislabeard> KE1HA: ahh I need to open that port
[22:00] <maco> shawnboy: right
[22:01] <shawnboy> gotcha
[22:01] <KE1HA> :-) that would help yes :-)
[22:01] <kosaidopo_> maco: yeh tnx dude : ) saw it
[22:01] <appamajig> itsjar: yeah, that's the one
[22:01] <itsjar> cool, rebooting :)
[22:01] <ZykoticK9> shawnboy, why bother with 8.04?  why not use a newer version?  even with older hardware newer versions of ubuntu should work fine, or check out xubuntu for a slightly "lighter" system.
[22:01] <chrislabeard> KE1HA: Cause if its working internally with using the hosts file, than it should work publicly as long as all the ports are correct.
[22:03] <joo> Who already has my nickname damnit :'(
[22:03] <appamajig> itsjar: sorry for not telling you correctly to begin with :P I just remember nouveau
[22:03] <KE1HA> Yes, and your router is forwarding the requsts properly.
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> !register > joo
[22:04] <joo> cheers
[22:04] <joo> !register
[22:04] <joo> oh cack
[22:04] <KenShin133> I have a question regaurding using packages/features from 10.04 on 9.10
[22:04] <KenShin133> May i repost it or should i leave it be?
[22:05] <appamajig> can anyone point me in the right direction to change my wubi install to an install with a dedicated partition? I saw a way to do it on a forum at one time, but now I cannot find it again...
[22:05] <joo> Can someone check if joo is droppable?
[22:06] <itsjar> appamajig: np man, already happy someone tries :)
[22:06] <itsjar> been struggling wit hthis for a while now, and I need it for a deadline
[22:06] <niks1608> !help
[22:06] <rww> joofl: I imagine #freenode could ;)
[22:06] <KE1HA> appamajig, Here's some infor for ya:  http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1204963
[22:07] <joofl> Nevermind
[22:07] <shawnboy> ZykoticK9, good point. I downloaded Lubuntu the other day to try on this old system and it is great so far. Heck, I guess I could even put Lucid server minimal on it and manually install LXDE if I wanted.
[22:07] <joofl> I'll use this
[22:07] <appamajig> itsjar: :) have any luck with that? there's some weirdness with radeon video cards working well with ubuntu... I worked on it once for like three hours
[22:07] <ravenheart> how can deactivate a terminal-shortcut?
[22:07] <rob_p> joofl: According to nickserv, joo was last seen 13 hours ago!
[22:07] <diogo_79> hi
[22:07] <diogo_79> guys how to edit the boot options of ubuntu
[22:07] <joofl> Damnit. I've never had to use anything else, haha.
[22:07] <diogo_79> ????
[22:07] <KE1HA> diogo_79, edit you grub menu.,1st file
[22:07] <KE1HA> oops menu.1st
[22:07] <rob_p> joofl: Looks like the nic, "joo" was registered only 16 weeks ago!
[22:08] <joofl> Gah, if only i'd gotten here then
[22:08] <diogo_79> i dont have menu.lst file
[22:08] <joofl> I'm actually slightly depressed
[22:08] <rob_p> joofl: Only 4 months late!  :-)
[22:08] <joofl> xD Ah well.
[22:09] <joofl> Hm would anyone be able to offer me some advice on gaming?
[22:09] <joofl> Or would i have to go find a wine channel or something...
[22:09] <KE1HA> joofl, wine and playonlinux, check those out for options.
[22:09] <appamajig> KE1HA: thanks!
[22:09] <rob_p> joofl: This is the Ubuntu support channel... probably not the best place for it.
[22:09] <KenShin133> Hey all, I installed ubuntu 10.04 a while ago  and had a good few problems im not willing to  deal with at the moment, So im on 9.10 Which  is fine, But im curious asto if i can get the  software center and gnome-terminal that they  had on 10.04? Is there a ppa or package for  those or are they heavily dependant on the way  10.04 was built?
[22:09] <itsjar> appamajig: well.. not yet
[22:09] <itsjar> think he is still a bit confused because I tried envy, fglrx before
[22:09] <itsjar> trying to get eveyrthing uninstalled now
[22:10] <itsjar> and then I'll retry with nouveau
[22:10] <joofl> Alright. Nevermind, then :) I'll just plod on with wine
[22:10] <itsjar> I've been working on it for 5 horus now too.. But this install used to be running on nvidia, makes it more evil I guess
[22:11] <itsjar> the result so far is (EE) no devices detected
[22:11] <appamajig> itsjar here's the best link that I could find when I was doing this... it explains every step and nuance to getting this to work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[22:11] <calmdude> does anybody knows how can i imporve my "nouveau video performance"?
[22:11] <Dereckson> Hi, if I launch gnome-terminal and hide the menu bar (menu view > uncheck show menubar), how can I restore this bar later?
[22:11] <appamajig> itsjar: it doesn't cover anything nvidia of course, but I think you got that already taken care of :)
[22:12] <appamajig> calmdude: there's some info on that near the end of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[22:12] <erUSUL> Dereckson: right click anywhere on the terminal
[22:12] <calmdude> radeon?
[22:12] <calmdude> im using nvidia
[22:12] <Dereckson> arg I were afraid it would paste
[22:12] <chrislabeard> KE1HA: Does it really take 24-48 hours for a dns to update as well?
[22:12] <Dereckson> thank you ericm
[22:12] <Dereckson> thank you erUSUL
[22:12] <calmdude> does anybody knows how can i imporve my "nouveau (nvidia) video performance"?
[22:12] <erUSUL> np
[22:13] <KE1HA> chrislabeard, yes, unfortunbately, as there's are Hundreds, if not thousands of DNS servers around the world.
[22:13] <appamajig> itsjar holy crap, I got confused lol nouveau is nvidia... sorry man
[22:13] <rapture> in lucid services don't seem to start at boot like they should - for example mysql and mythbackend. Ideas?
[22:13] <chrislabeard> KE1HA: Alright I will wait a  little longer before freaking out
[22:13] <appamajig> itsjar but that link does tell you how to get the best ati setup... *shame*
[22:13] <Tw|sT> Does any know if there will be a 10.04.1 release soon that will fix the bug with the Realtek NIC drivers?
[22:13] <appamajig> calmdude: lol sorry, I was confused :)
[22:13] <KE1HA> I find the ones like OpenDNS and the really big ones seems to be a bit faster, but its still painful :-)
[22:14] <calmdude> :-)
[22:14] <TeslaTony> Is it possible to create a bootable USB flash drive with multiple OS options?
[22:14] <calmdude> u mean dualboot as win/ubuntu tesla?
[22:14] <xtony10> ciao
[22:14] <KenShin133> TeslaTony Look at unetbootin.. That might be what you need
[22:14] <KE1HA> TeslaTony, sure, treat the drive as if it's an internal hard drive.
[22:15] <KE1HA> although, it would need an MBR / Bootload installed on it as well.
[22:15] <calmdude> well, i installed windows/ubuntu dualboot in my usb thumb drive "as hard disk" and it was slow... really really slow...
[22:15] <appamajig> calmdude: I'm using an nvidia 8800 gt and performance is great with my setup (newest nvidia drivers from the site... 256.35 I think?) what's your setup and where do you see performance degredation?
[22:15] <Tw|sT> yeah, that would work. it'd be no different than installing to a usb harddrive (which I use daily)
[22:16] <calmdude> appamajig, i need vdpau support! :-D
[22:16] <KE1HA> calmdude, of cource its slow, your working at USB speed, take that same drive and put it in a PCIE-SSD setup, and its insanely fast.
[22:16] <fling> i need help installing tremulous where i want it to be installed..
[22:16] <calmdude> i installed 256.35 too, with playing dirty
[22:16] <itsjar> hmm.. if i'm in console mode (fixing grahpics card) and I can't even press Q in vim (I can press ':' but not 'q') .. It also didn't revert to qwerty in stead of azerty, any ideas to get out of vim?
[22:16] <calmdude> ke1ha, im not complainin, i answered teslatony lol
[22:16] <appamajig> calmdude: what video card do you have? what cpu?
[22:17] <TeslaTony> The only downside to treating it as an internal drive is I'd have to boot into a livecd environment, and I lack a second flash drive, or an optical drive. unetbootin sounds interesting, though. Thanks, folks
[22:17] <KE1HA> :-)  no worries, speed is what it is all about, and USB justn't the way to go to get it :-)
[22:17] <joofl> Wtf i just tried to download new nvidia drivers from the nvidia website and i think it's trying to execute the .run within google chrome :S
[22:17] <itsjar> never mind, i'll restat
[22:17] <itsjar> *start
[22:17] <fling> calmdude, set pci latency? do you have pci-e?
[22:17] <appamajig> joofl: lol really? are you logged as root?
[22:17] <joofl> Nope i'm not
[22:18] <appamajig> itsjar: I'm sorry about that man, lol I have my system that I'm on, with nvidia and another with ati, and I got confused
[22:18] <sanguisdex> is there a way to change where ubuntu looks for the mounted install CD is?
[22:18] <KE1HA> TeslaTony, if your only drive ( meaning no internal drive ) conntected to the machine, then its not a problem.
[22:18] <joofl> I click download file, and it opens up a new tab and spams loads of echo commands
[22:18] <calmdude> well, gt220... i noticed installing current (must be 195 smthin) from "hardware drivers" way is crashed my system after reboot... so i improvised some tutorials like x-swat ppa... they failed too, whatever i make 256.35 worked
[22:18] <appamajig> itsjar: know this: do NOT use the fglrx drivers, those are crap :) the link I sent you has everything you need
[22:18] <fling> how do i run a *.run file?
[22:18] <itsjar> ohh
[22:18] <calmdude> but it was unstable and ugly (u know the low res bootloader problem etc)
[22:18] <itsjar> didnt read it yet :)
[22:19] <itsjar> so nouveau is not good.. that's why I didn't hear of that yet
[22:19] <niks1608> Gnea:hi
[22:19] <itsjar> thanks for the link anyway mn!! :)
[22:19] <appamajig> fling: sh myrunfile.run
[22:19] <KE1HA> TeslaTony, allot of people go down the road of Dualboot, USB Boot, Flashdrive Boot, when all they need to do is install a Virtual Solution, of couse you need at least two cores, and a bit of Ram, but its far less hassle fer sure.
[22:19] <calmdude> nouveau sucks (for now, no vdpau yet) :-/
[22:19] <appamajig> itsjar: yeah... it's an nvidia driver... *furtive glances*
[22:19] <itsjar> :)
[22:19] <joofl> How do i switch to root then? I've never had to
[22:20] <appamajig> calmdude: I misled him to try to install nouveau on his radeon system... lol I got mixed up
[22:20] <KE1HA> su root
[22:20] <Naxil> some people why my computer not boot ubuntu? i have installed ubuntu on 2 different hd but say everithing "!alert /dev/uu-id does not exist" please query me if you know something
[22:20] <_sjm_> joofl: use sudo
[22:20] <appamajig> joogl: just use sudo <command>
[22:20] <joofl> Now it's given me an error
[22:20] <appamajig> joofl: just use sudo <command>
[22:20] <joofl> You appear to be running an X server
[22:20] <joofl> Please exit X before installing
[22:20] <calmdude> i switched from ati, just because im into linux... lived happily with my prop drivers, and lucid make it opposite! :,-(
[22:21] <hornets> hello
[22:21] <TeslaTony> KE1HA: I'm trying to put together a portable drive for working on computers, where I don't want to use the installed OS
[22:21] <wickedwacky> cool
[22:21] <joofl> Any ideas on how to exit X server guys? :S
[22:21] <Naxil> keyha
[22:21] <Naxil> you talk with me?
[22:22] <hornets> could you guys tell me, if this has something to do about I'm not being able to auto-logon on ssh using rsa?
[22:22] <calmdude> exit xserver? u mean gdm or reboot?
[22:22] <hornets> gnome-keyring-daemon[1534]: unsupported key algorithm in certificate: 1.2.840.10045.2.1
[22:22] <joofl> I don't know :(
[22:22] <hornets> i've tried EVERYTHING
[22:22] <appamajig> calmdude: sounds like he's trying to install vid drivers
[22:22] <joofl> I just want to install these damn nvidia drivers and it's telling me i need to exit xserver
[22:22] <hornets> and I can't just auto-logon on ssh
[22:22] <KE1HA> TeslaTony, I'd Use a Live-CD remix with the tools you need, and the USD for a storage /home on it. But, everyone has their own way of doing it.
[22:22] <Naxil> some people know why my computer not boot ubuntu? i have installed ubuntu on 2 different hd but say everithing "!alert /dev/uu-id does not exist" please query me if you know something
[22:22] <_sjm_> hornets: what are you trying to do?
[22:22] <hornets> _sjm_: ssh to a server using rsa
[22:23] <hornets> but always ask for my ssh passw
[22:23] <_sjm_> hornets: you can log in with a password?
[22:23] <hornets> yes
[22:23] <netech> I don't suppose there's any ssh voodoo that'll let me forward vnc traffic through my ssh server/firewall to a machine on the internal LAN?
[22:23] <hornets> just using the passw
[22:23] <hornets> I can't log automatically
[22:23] <KE1HA> I used to Admin Hundres of units that way, mini-cd ( with Knoppix at the time, now Ubuntu) and an USB key, not allot I couldn't do from there.
[22:23] <calmdude> appamajig: maybe he wanna reboot
[22:23] <hornets> and I've setup everything rihd
[22:23] <hornets> the ssh-agent
[22:23] <hornets> ssh-add
[22:23] <hornets> etc etc
[22:23] <_sjm_> hornets: did you copy the public key to the server using ssh-copy-id?
[22:23] <FloodBot4> hornets: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <hornets> yes
[22:23] <appamajig> calmdude: probably the easiest way... that's how I did it
[22:24] <calmdude> appamajig:?
[22:24] <joofl> I'm so confused.
[22:24] <hornets> I'm afraid that gnome-keyring is bugged
[22:24] <_sjm_> hornets: it's usually permission problems on the server.  Look at the server logs (/var/log/messages).
[22:24] <hornets> and is fuckin the login
[22:24] <calmdude> üno crusin, no touchin!
[22:24] <hornets> hum
[22:24] <hornets> let me check it
[22:24] <itsjar> hmm well, I don't get the 'your in safe mode' warning again
[22:24] <itsjar> but the resolution is still far to low :p
[22:24] <Naxil> hornets you can fix this error on boot "!alert dev/uu-id does not exist"?
[22:24] <TeslaTony> KE1HA: THat might be a good way, too. I'm still trying to figure out what I really need to do...most likely an Ubuntu remix on the flash drive, with no dual-booting on it. Though it might be an interesting experiment to test if it can be done without driving me insane
[22:25] <diogo_79> i have a processor with intel speed step support but the board doest support
[22:25] <itsjar> so I can't go to the ati site and install the drivers right? those suck?
[22:25] <diogo_79> can i activate this feature on ubuntu?
[22:25] <calmdude> if board doesnt support u canr siogo
[22:25] <calmdude> diogo
[22:25] <calmdude> cant
[22:25] <hornets> tsc, permission denied
[22:26] <hornets> I don't have sudo on that server
[22:26] <appamajig> joofl: reboot your computer and choose the recovery boot option (just below the one you usually choose) and then choose the root console with network when you get to the blue screen (It won't say that exactly... but It'll mean that) then you probably need to change to the directory with the driver, and then sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux.....run
[22:26] <joofl> I don't have to choose a boot option :/
[22:26] <_sjm_> hornets: what are the permissions on the home directory, the .ssh directory and the authorized_keys file
[22:26] <joofl> I only have ubuntu
[22:26] <hornets> 700/600
[22:27] <hornets> both sides
[22:27] <netech> I thought using # ssh -L 5900:target_lan_ip:5900 -p 22 user@fw.com would do the trick
[22:27] <appamajig> joofl are you using a dual boot? (windows and ubuntu)
[22:28] <netech> but when I try to vnc to either target_lan_ip or fw.com it times out
[22:28] <yabuk> how do I set a mencoder command to convert any video to this setting:http://www.techiechips.com/convert-movies-and-videos-for-the-nokia-5530-xpressmusic/                 ?
[22:28] <joofl> I'm not, no.
[22:28] <sanguisdex> how can I fool ubuntu into thinking that a mounted liveCD image is the live disk to grab packages off of?
[22:28] <sburwood> I wanted to record something in stereo.  I, using Audacity and a stereo cord (from cassette player to the computer).  Result : a mono recording How do I repair the error?  It"s talking
[22:28] <_sjm_> hornets: on the home directory itself?  755?
[22:28] <theoctagon> netech: vnc to localhost might do?
[22:28] <hornets> 755?
[22:28] <hornets> let me check it
[22:28] <hornets> on my home, or the server?
[22:29] <KE1HA> TeslaTony, well, the main thing I drove was Harware detection, and that required allot of space, so I went the CD route, but had no need for Dual-Boot. I wokred all flavors of WinDoze and Linux With that mox, worked a treat.
[22:29] <_sjm_> hornets: server
[22:29] <hornets> ahhh
[22:29] <appamajig> joofl ok, lemme research, one moment
[22:29] <davidm777> I'd really like to RTFM, but I'm not sure what to even search for... what do I lookup to find out how to get rid of old/unnecessary Kernels (they show up in GRUB, for example)?  Or even just to understand what's going on with Kernel updates (does the old version 'go away', etc.)?
[22:29] <hornets> _sjm_: 775
[22:29] <_sjm_> hornets: and owned by the user you are logging in as?
[22:29] <hornets> yep
[22:30] <hornets> same user/group
[22:30] <appamajig> joofl: are you on ubuntu 10.04?
[22:30] <joofl> Yeah
[22:30] <joofl> I am
[22:30] <theoctagon> davidm777: what about deleting them from /boot and grub.conf?
[22:30] <_sjm_> hornets: the group on the server?  I think that second 7 might be causing the problem.
[22:30] <KE1HA> davidm777, Here ya go: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/17/remove-ubuntu-kernels-you-dont-need/
[22:30] <Naxil> i have problem with grub
[22:30] <aliendark> hay alguien que hable español??
[22:30] <hornets> geez
[22:30] <hornets> let me check
[22:30] <appamajig> joofl: see the new chat window?
[22:30] <_sjm_> !es | aliendark
[22:30] <BGL-[a]> strange, cdburnerxp would not burn 10.04 to cd basically claiming the iso is too big for the cd
[22:30] <BGL-[a]> i had to use imgburn
[22:30] <Naxil> my ubuntu is 10.04
[22:31] <BGL-[a]> that sux cuz i've been using cdburnerxp for a couple years now
[22:31] <hornets> OMFG
[22:31] <hornets> I CANT FUCKIN BELIEVE IT!
[22:31] <theoctagon> anyone here got notice of the tool cdargs? I really love it - bookmarks for bash
[22:31] <hornets> _sjm_: you're the man
[22:31] <hornets> geez
[22:31] <slidinghorn> !language | hornets
[22:31] <aliendark> ok gracias
[22:31] <KE1HA> davidm777, be sure to keep one old kernl that you know works.
[22:31] <hornets> you don't know what I have been through
[22:31] <hornets> to fix this thing
[22:31] <judgen> Any package managers here today?
[22:31] <hornets> it was the fudgin permission lol
[22:31] <davidm777> KE1HA: wow, thanks!  I don't even need to search :-)
[22:32] <_sjm_> hornets: glad to help.  I've been through it and that's how I learned.
[22:32] <theoctagon> KE1HA: nice "gui" edition of removing old kernels :)
[22:32] <Naxil> BGL i have burn with nero
[22:32] <hornets> geez man
[22:32] <hornets> I even remove gnome-keyring
[22:32] <hornets> lol
[22:33] <hornets> _sjm_: still.. there's no logic on that
[22:33] <Naxil> but i can take program for other hd (other installation of ubuntu)
[22:34] <_sjm_> hornets: it is for security.  otherwise anyone in the group could change the .ssh directory and get access.
[22:34] <hornets> but.. the .ssh dir have 700
[22:34] <hornets> ah
[22:34] <xtony10> !list
[22:34] <hornets> If a group have 7 permission on a dir
[22:34] <hornets> they can change everytying on the subdirs?
[22:35] <hornets> even if is setup 700
[22:35] <KE1HA> If yu make the change recursive -R it trolls through the dir-tree for the command executed.
[22:35]  * theoctagon gets tired
[22:36] <_sjm_> hornets: they can change the directory (they have write access to the home directory), but not things within the .ssh, but to the .ssh directory itself.
[22:36] <hornets> _sjm_: like, they can wipeout the .ssh dir?
[22:37] <_sjm_> hornets: I haven't tried it, but I think so and replace it with their own.
[22:37] <niks1608> my hp-psc-1350 will not print on my network, through samba, file is send but does not print
[22:37] <KE1HA> hornets, here's an example: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-apply-conditional-recursive-chmod-file-permissions/
[22:37] <theoctagon> cyberciti.biz again :)
[22:38] <KE1HA> fir one I found :-)
[22:38] <theoctagon> good page - stumple upon it regularly
[22:38] <theoctagon> much more content than my linux blog has - but I intend to grow :)
[22:39] <hornets> _sjm_: still, that thing should be worked better on ssh
[22:39] <KE1HA> nix-craft, that's a good site fer info, allot of UB stuff there.
[22:39] <theoctagon> KE1HA: word!
[22:39] <hornets> If the group owner have only one user, as Primary. it should work
[22:39] <hornets> like in my example hornets:hornets
[22:39] <_sjm_> hornets: the information is there to solve the problem, you just didn't have access to it.  It's in the /var/log/messages file.
[22:39] <hornets> _sjm_: I just talked to an admin
[22:39] <hornets> he pasted to me lol
[22:40] <theoctagon> I intend to blog stuff that is far from basics - nevertheless I blog them too from time to time
[22:40] <itsjar> lol, to check if you are using the driver: glxinfo | grep vendor
[22:40] <itsjar> result =<
[22:40] <itsjar> segmentation fault
[22:40] <Divine_E> irc.sixlabrats.com
[22:41] <erUSUL> itsjar: grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[22:41] <theoctagon> KE1HA: http://www.tuxify.de if you're curious - strictly non commercial of course
[22:41] <erUSUL> itsjar: sorry tab completion error --> grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:41] <netech> awesome. connecting to localhost:5900 did the trick.
[22:42] <theoctagon> netech: just do it right - and it works :P
[22:42] <KE1HA> Yeah, know that one. Certificate is Out of Date Though :-)
[22:42] <netech> I thought vnc would just try 5900 automagically
[22:42] <theoctagon> netech: that's what ssh tunnels are for
[22:42] <KE1HA> ditto whart he said, VNC is a resource hog.
[22:43] <netech> I'm tunnelling vnc through a firewall using ssh
[22:43] <itsjar> thanks erUSUL, I wanted to know if I'm using the ATI drivers, however I see "ati", "vesa", as well as "fbdev" appearing in that, how do I know i'm using the right drivers?
[22:43] <netech> (for an artist friend)
[22:43] <KE1HA> netech, good luck, takes a big pipe to make it responsive.
[22:43] <theoctagon> netech: the firewall guys won't like it - but who cares :)
[22:44] <theoctagon> netech: the tool teamviewer might be a better option ;)
[22:44] <erUSUL> itsjar: read the full log ? i suspect you ended up using ati
[22:44] <rapture> Why does MySQL not start at boot?
[22:44] <sjm> netech, there's a good site on the configuration and the scripts to make it easy for your artist friend:  http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ssvnc.html
[22:45] <bulleca> !list
[22:45] <theoctagon> rapture: is it activate in the desired runlevel?
[22:45] <KE1HA> your better off with just SSH if you can comand-line the work you need to do. but as said, Adminds dont like SSH tunnels, to many possible holes on the other end.
[22:45] <netech> theoctagon: I'll check it out. Thanks.
[22:45] <netech> sjm, thanks as well
[22:46] <zongo_> Hi Guys, I stumble upon a software once that allowed to have multiple windows in my terminal. I cannot remember the name of that software
[22:46] <erUSUL> zongo_: terminator ?
[22:46] <sjm> zongo_, screen?
[22:46] <theoctagon> zongo_: terminator
[22:46] <erUSUL> !info terminator
[22:46] <rapture> theoctagon, I've no idea. I installed it via apt-get. Is there something else I'm supposed to do?
[22:46] <zongo_> yes that is correct  thanks all
[22:47] <theoctagon> rapture: no nothing else to do
[22:47] <KE1HA> rapture, try this: sudo update-rc.d mysql defaults
[22:47] <rapture> "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/mysql missing LSB information"
[22:47] <binni> What's the difference between Ubuntu Minimal CD Image - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD - and UNetbotin Distribution: Ubuntu 10.04_NetInstall and UNetbotin Distribution: Xubuntu 10.04_NetInstall? And if there is a difference, were on the web can I access the later two.
[22:48] <rapture> oh and "System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/mysql already exist."
[22:48] <rapture> KE1HA, theoctagon, the same appears to be true of Mythbackend
[22:48] <rapture> I think Apache is doing it too
[22:49] <joofl> I am le back
[22:49] <itsjar> nope, I think i'm using vesa
[22:49] <KE1HA> then the same would apply: sudo update-rc.d Mythbackend defaults
[22:49] <fling> how do i become root?
[22:49] <joofl> Unix is such a grammar nazi
[22:49] <dancrew32> how do I clean up the hidden .stuff folders in home/me/ ?
[22:49] <itsjar> as far as I understand those logs
[22:49] <theoctagon> fling: sudo -s
[22:50] <dancrew32> if an app was uninstalled
[22:50] <erUSUL> !root | fling
[22:50] <KE1HA> itsjar, ls -al then rm -rf ./*you want to delete.
[22:50] <erUSUL> dancrew32: depends on the app.
[22:50] <dancrew32> erUSUL, is there some sort of aptitude cleanup?
[22:50] <KE1HA> becarefull though ... somethings are better left "Undeleted" :-)
[22:51] <theoctagon> dancrew32: sudo aptitude autoclean
[22:51] <erUSUL> dancrew32: package managers never mess with home folders
[22:51] <rapture> KE1HA, "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/mythbackend: file does not exist", uh, please advise?
[22:51] <dancrew32> ah okay.. thanks all
[22:51] <sharperguy> Anybody know if there a command line option for wine that lets you enable the desktop window in that instance only?
[22:51] <KE1HA> then its not in your start up dir, and you need a control script for it.
[22:52] <fgrt> anyone else having difficulties with the alternate install disc for 10.04 amd64?
[22:52] <rapture> KE1HA, sorry, but I'm not really sure what a control script is or where I would acquire one
[22:53] <KE1HA> but are you sure Mythbackend is a Server, and not just an application that is executed and uses MySQL for it's DB ?
[22:53] <fling> ubuntu won't let me install the tremulous gpp
[22:53] <KE1HA> Lert me look up that Applicaiton.
[22:53] <rapture> KE1HA, as I recall it's supposed to be a service that runs on boot/login
[22:54] <fgrt> don't mean to be impatient, but did anyone read my earlier message?
[22:54] <etalyc> sharperguy: use a wine prefix for the app you want windowed.
[22:54] <sharperguy> etalyc, googling wineprefix
[22:54] <rapture> fgrt, I didn't, but then again I'm kinda busy trying to fix the myriad of issues involved with a mythtv setup
[22:55] <appamajig> fgrt: what issues?
[22:55] <fgrt> trying to install from the alt cd for lucid amd 64
[22:55] <KE1HA> rapture, Im reading about it now, it's a Server / Service App.
[22:55] <fgrt> keeps freezing during the software install portion
[22:55] <fgrt> done it 6-7 times now
[22:55] <master> hi room
[22:56] <master> anybody about xamp
[22:56] <erUSUL> !lamp | master we do not support xaamp here use
[22:56] <fling> aaarrrghhh
[22:57] <rapture> KE1HA, indeed
[22:57] <fling> afk-getting something to eat..trying to instal tremulous 1.2-gpp
[22:57] <KE1HA> rapture, did you install it via the Mythubuntu package ?
[22:57] <fgrt> any thoughts appamajig?
[22:58] <erUSUL> fgrt: sudo aptitude install tremulous
[22:58] <rapture> KE1HA, originally, no, then I used the mythbuntu repos to update to the latest versions of it
[22:58] <KE1HA> rapture, sri, I should have said, from the Mythubuntu distro.
[22:58] <fgrt> uhm, wat?
[22:58] <fgrt> i dunno what tremulous is
[22:58] <fgrt> thats the other guy
[22:58] <KE1HA> Ahh, Ok, so you have a standard Ubuntu Install, and installed the packages afterwards ?
[22:58] <rapture> KE1HA, nope, I installed plain ol' x86 lucid
[22:59] <erUSUL> fling: sudo aptitude install tremulous
[22:59] <fgrt> also, can't get a terminal until i get ubuntu to install
[22:59] <erUSUL> fgrt: sorry
[22:59] <KE1HA> rr, yes, that's what I ment.
[22:59] <SecretDreams> Boa noite pessoal!
[22:59] <erUSUL> !br | SecretDreams
[23:00] <KE1HA> rapture, have a run through this how too, and see if this corrects the issue: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Server/Backend
[23:00] <fgrt> so any takers on my issue?
[23:01] <master> what is  a bot
[23:01] <BGL-[a]> crappy flash performance makes baby jesus cry
[23:01] <erUSUL> fgrt: did you checked the iso ?
[23:01] <theoctagon> BGL-[a]: 64bit? welcome to the club :P
[23:01] <slidinghorn> master, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat_bot
[23:02] <KE1HA> fgrt, what's the issue, all I saw was yyour haveing trouble with AMD-65 Minimal Install
[23:02] <KE1HA> oops AMD-64-Bit...
[23:02] <slidinghorn> KE1HA, you're not beta testing the new 65-bit system?  ;-)
[23:02] <acxty> Hi guys, Is it possible to create a screen and run command at reboot?
[23:02] <fgrt> no, i'll go do that, i suppose
[23:02] <slidinghorn> master, no, I'm not a bot, and please don't pm me
[23:03] <KE1HA> LOL. yeah, I designed my own :-)
[23:03] <fgrt> i doubt its the issue, i've had this same problem with previuos releases as well
[23:03] <fgrt> brb
[23:03] <slidinghorn> !pm | master - ubottu is the bot for the #ubuntu channel -
[23:03] <KE1HA> Ok, I do allot of headless installs with the minimal CD / Server CD, so may have som insight.
[23:04] <winter_> j
[23:04] <master> ok god some new information from this session
[23:04] <radar3d|DT> hellos all what is the command for adding the alternative repositories for ubuntu 10.4?
[23:05] <erUSUL> radar3d|DT: System>Admin...>software sources
[23:05] <radar3d|DT> I wanto to install java6 and need to know which repository to ad
[23:05] <erUSUL> radar3d|DT: partner repo; see the third party tab
[23:05] <erUSUL> !java > radar3d|DT
[23:07] <cylence> I just tried to install sqlite3 using apt-get but got an old version. I'm not overly familiar with using apt-get, I normally install from source. what might the cause of this be?
[23:07] <theoctagon> vbox running on maverick with btrfs
[23:07] <theoctagon> I am out for today - good night
[23:07] <cylence> it requests v3.6 and I'm getting v3.4. That's a pretty significant jump!
[23:07] <slidinghorn> cylence, it's the version that was in the repos...if you need a newer version, you may have to download & compile from the developer's site
[23:07] <KE1HA> radar3d|DT, Have a look at this: http://www.jaxmag.com/itr/news/psecom,id,35104,nodeid,146.html
[23:07] <cylence> hmm
[23:07] <osmario> Hi everybody. Is it easy set up a webcam on ubuntu 10.04?
[23:08] <cylence> slidinghorn: are you referring to an actual apt-get package on the dev's site or from soruce?
[23:08] <cylence> source even
[23:08] <radar3d|DT> I just went through this the other day but lost the one line command I needed is all
[23:08] <erUSUL> !info sqlite3
[23:08] <erUSUL> cylence: ^
[23:08] <Oer> cylene, i see 3.6.22
[23:08] <erUSUL> that's the version in lucid
[23:08] <slidinghorn> cylence, probably the source itself...some might have a .deb package to install, but I wouldn't consider it likely
[23:09] <cylence> Oer: why might I be seeing differnt packages?
[23:09] <cylence> erUSUL: ?
[23:09] <KE1HA> radar3d|DT, well this should work for Java6-JRE Non-Dev: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[23:09] <cylence> ahh
[23:09] <cylence> erUSUL: sorry, missed the bot output. thanks!
[23:09] <slidinghorn> cylence, are you running 10.04?  might be on the old karmic repos?  that's all I can think of
[23:09] <erUSUL> cylence: 3.6.22-1 is the version apt-get will install in lucid ( 10.04 )
[23:09] <radar3d|DT> thanks all
[23:09] <cylence> slidinghorn: quite possible
[23:10] <erUSUL> !info sqlite3 karmic
[23:10] <cylence> slidinghorn: how can I "fix" that?
[23:10] <erUSUL> cylence: karmic has 3.6 too
[23:10] <cylence> strange
[23:10] <erUSUL> cylence: lsb_release -a
[23:10] <cylence> Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS (hardy)
[23:10] <KE1HA> radar3d|DT, then afterwrds, jsut test the Java Version: java -version
[23:11] <erUSUL> !info sqlite3 hardy
[23:11] <rapture> well, it seems mysql is still b0rked
[23:11] <slidinghorn> there's your answer cylence ^^
[23:11] <radar3d|DT> KE1HA, thanks
[23:11] <erUSUL> cylence: not surprising; two years old release
[23:11] <Oer> solution : distro-upgrade
[23:12] <cylence> erUSUL: gotcha, is there a way to update my source list or is this simply going to require a full OS upgrade?
[23:12] <slidinghorn> cylence, you may have to upgrade your distro to use the newer versions -- either that or try installing from source, but there can be no guarantees that newer versions will work with 8.04
[23:12] <KE1HA> Oer, :-) Ditto
[23:12] <erUSUL> !backports | cylence
[23:12] <cylence> hehe, okay
[23:12] <kdog_> hi
[23:12] <cylence> thank you all so very much!
[23:12] <erUSUL> cylence: but i doubt there is a backport for that
[23:12] <cylence> no worries, I'll do the right thing here hehe
[23:13] <cylence> at least I know now. :)
[23:13] <cylence> sincerely, thanks again
[23:13] <erUSUL> cylence: giving that 8.04 and 10.04 are both LTS releases you can do 8.04 --> 10.04 in one step
[23:13] <cylence> erUSUL: oh nice!
[23:13] <cylence> erUSUL: sounds like a plan to me
[23:13] <erUSUL> !upgrade > cylence
[23:13] <cylence> ubottu: bot it
[23:14] <KE1HA> radar3d|DT, couple other tings you need to do, post JRE install, check the How-To: http://www.jaxmag.com/itr/news/psecom,id,35104,nodeid,146.html
[23:16] <rapture> I'm still no closer to figuring out why mysql refuses to start at boot but starts just fine if started manually
[23:16] <KE1HA> 8.04 --> 10.04: Never seen a distro UPG go without a hitch. If 10.04 is the goal, better off doing a fresh install.
[23:16] <KE1HA> rapture, is the backend workign now ?
[23:16] <maco> KE1HA: i have. it depends how much 3rd party stuff you install though
[23:17] <rapture> the backend won't start if Mysql isn't started
[23:17] <rapture> once mysql is running, I can start it
[23:17] <KE1HA> rr ok, hold on a sec.
[23:17] <rapture> and I can set it to run via startup programs if required
[23:17] <rapture> but mysql is not behaving
[23:18] <davvo> hi
[23:19] <KE1HA> rapture, Im assuming this is on a local LAN yes ? if so, you need to make sure that your networking is up and runnign before MySQL trys to start.
[23:20] <rapture> KE1HA, it's all on a single machine
[23:20] <KE1HA> rapture, Understand, but have a read of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1079341
[23:21] <acxty> may someone help me with this I am trying to create a screen and detach it. I am doing screen -d -m MyScreen
[23:21] <acxty> but it doesn't create it
[23:22] <KE1HA> rapture, baring that, I wold remove mysql, then reinstall it forst, then follow up with the mythtv install process again. Makign sure you have MySQL runnign at boot before installing yout TV backend.
[23:23] <fgrt> checksums are different........FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[23:23] <fgrt> now i go bash head into wall while i redownload the iso
[23:24] <rapture> KE1HA, according to that thread I should have something at /etc/rcx.d but there's nothing there
[23:24] <KE1HA> rapture, then tha's a problem all into itself, as thats you server / service boot sequence
[23:24] <rapture> lol
[23:25] <KE1HA> What Distro dod you Install 10.04 Desktop ?
[23:25] <KE1HA> oopd did
[23:25] <fgrt> this is quite off topic, but anybody know how i would check to see if my machine is sending out any suspicious data?  i'm experimenting with a suspicious custom OS distro
[23:25] <rapture> 10.04 x86
[23:25] <KE1HA> ok, and how did you install MySQL, from the command line of Package mANAGER ?
[23:25] <KE1HA> .. or Package Manager ..
[23:26] <jalal_> hi to all
[23:26] <UkeKun> i'm trying to build an xscale toolchain and it needs gcc3, what's the best way of getting it?
[23:26] <rapture> KE1HA, it was either via apt-get or synaptic, does it make a difference?
[23:27] <KE1HA> No, not really, but in the commandline, there's more chance fer Error. Go to the package manager, and Un-Install MySQL and your Frontend + Backend, then let me know when that's done.
[23:28] <rapture> no, wait, I recall I already tried that
[23:28] <KE1HA> jalal_, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 or go to the package manager and install.
[23:28] <rapture> I reinstalled mysql in synaptic (well, uninstalled, then reinstalled)
[23:29] <KE1HA> ok, and did you run the update-rc.d again after installing the second time?
[23:30] <UkeKun> I don't see gcc-3.4, earliest version i can see is 4.1
[23:30] <rapture> yep
[23:30] <KE1HA> also, you have to start it, and add a suer to it.
[23:30] <Fernandos> hi
[23:30] <jacky31> hi ! anyone has tuxonice working with ubuntu karmic ?
[23:30] <rapture> suer?
[23:30] <KE1HA> jalal_, http://www.astahost.com/info.php/ubuntu-install-compilers_t18742.html
[23:30] <rapture> super? User?
[23:31] <KE1HA> Yes, sudo is a must dfor service / servers
[23:31] <Fernandos> I've a serious problem. I cannot connect to the internet via wifi. My wifi card gets detected I can see networks in the network-manager's list. I can try to connect to them. But even though the password is correct it keeps asking for the password..
[23:31] <UkeKun> KE1HA that link in't relevant to 10.04
[23:31] <rapture> so, what am I supposed to do with update-rc.d then?
[23:31] <KE1HA> Once it's started and the users added, do your update-rc.d again, as sudo
[23:31] <KE1HA> The process is the same.
[23:31] <Fernandos> [ubuntu] Network Manager keeps asking for password
[23:31] <davvo> will ubuntu pickup my macbook lid-close sensor? i have a water damaged mac (lid sensor) and need to recover work from my HDD
[23:31] <Fernandos> even though it IS correct
[23:32] <UkeKun> But gcc 3 isn't in the repos in 10.04
[23:32] <jacky31> no one can help with tuxonice on ubuntu pls ?
[23:32] <rapture> if I remove mysql, will I permanently lose my database?
[23:32] <Fernandos> I have a 15m cable around here now, that sucks!
[23:32] <davvo> any help with ubuntu on a macbook?
[23:32] <KE1HA> Ok, geeze thought crowd today :-)   Here's the revert: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110865
[23:32] <davvo> hardware related
[23:33] <mikeru> davvo: which macbook?
[23:33] <mnaines> What is the program that will take all your custom themes, settings, files, and everything else and make it into an ISO so if you have to reinstall or move to another machine you won't lose your data?
[23:33] <BromaxSux> okay good
[23:33] <davvo> white macbook, Core 2
[23:33] <Fernandos> :( I'm so frustrated, because I've been trying to make it work since last week!
[23:33] <Fernandos> no success
[23:33] <mikeru> davvo: which model, I must ask
[23:33] <mikeru> davvo: wait
[23:34] <davvo> wait there ill have a look
[23:34] <mikeru> davvo: sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[23:34] <davvo> its currently water damaged i cannot access OSX
[23:34] <davvo> as far as i know its a Apple MC240B/A MacBook / Core 2 Duo
[23:35] <mikeru> davvo: Water damaged!!?
[23:35] <mikeru> oh dear
[23:35] <KE1HA> UkeKun, a compiler is a compiler, it doent' really care what Distro it is as long as the tool-shain is there to support it.
[23:35] <mikeru> davvo: but that command is for ubuntu
[23:35] <davvo> i just need to know...
[23:35] <davvo> how can i boot ubuntu or any other linux distro so that it wont respond to the lid sensor
[23:36] <davvo> cause i think that is what i have fried
[23:36] <mikeru> davvo: ah, you can't even turn it on?
[23:36] <mnaines> KE1HA, so UkeKun can take all your settings, custom themes, files, and all that and compile it into an ISO so you can reinstall or move to another machine without losing data?
[23:36] <Fernandos> hope somebuddy can help me on this
[23:36] <ericthehax> Where's the soundfont Ubuntu uses and what format is it?
[23:36] <davvo> yeah it will turn on, but it standbys as soon as OSX (10.6) is loaded
[23:36] <Fernandos> I've seen no solution to this problem anywhere. and I have 10.04
[23:36] <davvo> or even OSX setup
[23:36] <k0sh> how to list aviable interfaces form script level? like list sort of "ppp0 eth0 eth1 lo" ?
[23:37] <davvo> i need a linux distro, or some booting options that will load linux with the sensors disabled - if possible
[23:37] <davvo> just so i can access my HD and get my uni work
[23:37] <KE1HA> mnaines, pass, dont know aboiut that one.
[23:37] <k0sh> how to list all available network interfaces form script level? like list sort of "ppp0 eth0 eth1 lo" ?
[23:37] <UkeKun> davvo if you have another pc with sata you can just put the hdd straight into there
[23:37] <rapture> ugh, I'm done trying to fix this tonight. I keep getting sent in circles. I shall renew my efforts tomorrow.
[23:38] <UkeKun> and then use transmac
[23:38] <UkeKun> if its windows
[23:38] <mikeru> davvp: well, you just pop the CD in and should work
[23:38] <davvo> yeah windows or linux :)
[23:38] <davvo> ok looks like my last option
[23:38] <KE1HA> mnaines, I suppose you could put them all into a folder and compile it that way, sure, or find a backup app and select what you want to back up.
[23:38] <davvo> yeah thats great thanks guys, appreciated
[23:38] <davvo> :)
[23:39] <mikeru> davvo: why is it you can not start a live cd
[23:39] <mikeru> ?
[23:39] <UkeKun> anyone here happen to have a working arm-xscale toolchain installed, only need it to compile redboot to fix my bricked router and i've had no luck for the past 5 hours trying to compile one
[23:39] <davvo> as soon as linux boots, i get a black screen and the system stalls - debian, ubuntu and knoppix ive tried
[23:39] <mikeru> davvo: HUH
[23:39] <KE1HA> well lmsensors isnt the best on the block to begin with, so no worries botu disabling sensor detection :-)
[23:39] <mikeru> davvo: hey.... WAIT
[23:40] <UkeKun> davvo you might want to dry disabling acpi if its the lid sensor
[23:40] <davvo> right...
[23:40] <davvo> :)
[23:40] <davvo> boot options?
[23:40] <mikeru> davvo: acpi=off
[23:40] <mikeru> that fixed mine
[23:41] <davvo> fantastic :)
[23:41] <mikeru> it seems it's the same as mine, but I can't read the MC#### string any more
[23:41] <davvo> i mean if that doesnt work i dont mind taking the HD out (again) as my warranties void anyway!!
[23:41] <UkeKun> i thought the macbooks had relatively user-replaceable hdds
[23:41] <UkeKun> i guess not
[23:42] <UkeKun> anything's better than how the ibook was though i guess
[23:42] <mikeru> UkeKun: depends on model
[23:42] <davvo> its more money im worried about atm
[23:42] <davvo> i dont mind fiddling with windows - linux PCs
[23:42] <mikeru> davvo: have you tried acpi=off yet?
[23:42] <KE1HA> davvo, just FYI, there is a bug regarding the Black Screen On Boot issue.
[23:42] <mikeru> KE1HA: indeed
[23:43] <mikeru> your options are:
[23:43] <mikeru> disable ACPI (acpi=off)
[23:43] <mikeru> disable second core (nosmp)
[23:43] <KE1HA> or at least for Ubuntu
[23:43] <mikeru> KE1HA: it's on the kernel bug tracker
[23:43] <mikeru> or
[23:43] <mikeru> what I did
[23:43] <UkeKun> asking again, anyone with an arm-xscale toolchain i'm desperately in need of one thing compiling to fix a bricked router so pm if you can help
[23:43] <mikeru> since I didn't want those off
[23:43] <m_> hello
[23:44] <davvo> right :) ok, im looking for my power chord! :D
[23:44] <davvo> haha
[23:44] <mikeru> get grub-efi-amd64 and do a very long procedure, since that blank screen problem is not present when booting from EFI
[23:44] <mikeru> now
[23:44] <mikeru> you probably don't want to do the last one
[23:44] <KE1HA> UkeKun, I found somethign on 9.04 Gnuarm: http://blog.nutaksas.com/2009/05/installing-gnuarm-arm-toolchain-on.html
[23:44] <davvo> yeah
[23:45] <mikeru> davvo: it's just for recovery, right?
[23:45] <mikeru> just do acpi=off
[23:45] <davvo> i mean its werid, because OSX load and then sleeps straight away - hardware wise are there any other reasons why that would happen
[23:45] <KE1HA> I've not used it, so dont know fer sure if that will work for you.
[23:45] <davvo> yeah its just for recovery
[23:45] <UkeKun> KE1HA i think that's the wrong endianness for the xscale
[23:45] <mikeru> have you tried Apple+S when the Apple logo shows up?
[23:45] <KE1HA> rr, Im not an ARM expert fer sure.
[23:45] <mikeru> it will start OS X in Verbose mode
[23:45] <davvo> right, no i havnt i tried hardware test and setup
[23:46] <Fernandos> nobuddyy?
[23:46] <davvo> aka D on start up
[23:46] <mikeru> I might be of help if you tell me the last thing you see
[23:46] <mikeru> davvo: it's not actually a hardware test
[23:46] <davvo> isnt it?
[23:46] <KE1HA> UkeKun, here's one fer an xscal cros-compiler: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-programming-scripting/145733-building-xscale-cross-compiler-problems.html
[23:46] <davvo> memory checker?
[23:46] <mikeru> davvo: it's like booting ubuntu without plymouth
[23:47] <mikeru> davvo: it just means, instead of seeing the spinning "Intermediate Progress Bar" wheel and the grey apple
[23:47] <davvo> i mean, if i can boot OSX at the most minimal level.....
[23:47] <mikeru> davvo: you'll see a white-on-black text console with the kernel's wise sayings
[23:47] <davvo> same with ubuntu
[23:47] <KE1HA> Maybe those guys have some insite for you UkeKun
[23:47] <mikeru> davvo: but will boot straight to OSX
[23:47] <UkeKun> KE1HA I saw that when I was looking earlier, it doesn't give any useful information he just ends up saying he couldn't successfully compile glibc
[23:48] <radar3d|DT> I have a new install of ubuntu amd64 on my HP AMD athlon quad core computer and when I boot it up and it goes to the login screen the computer locks up any ideas?
[23:48] <KE1HA> rrr .. you may be stuck in google madness fer a while on this one.
[23:48] <davvo> right ok, im gonna have to try this later i think ive left my power adapter at my girlfriends AND just because life is fantastic my batterys now dry
[23:48] <UkeKun> davvo if you can get OSX with no video output then you can use SFTP to get your files off
[23:48] <davvo> right yeah that sounds good
[23:48] <radar3d|DT> googling my problem says it is n nvidia driver issue?
[23:49] <mikeru> UkeKun: he's saying that it goes to sleep
[23:49] <davvo> it standbys
[23:49] <the_e> hey guys, I'm having a problem with xpad
[23:49] <UkeKun> mikeru do macbooks have wake on lan at all :P
[23:49] <the_e> I have it installed, but it isn't letting my 360 controller work?
[23:49] <mikeru> davvo: if the power LED is fading, then it is indeed in sleep-standby
[23:49] <rewati> hi i need to uninstall these gostwares but i am getting error . I am not able to install and uninstall any app on my system these are the errors : http://pastebin.com/R0XkbY2A
[23:49] <davvo> yep
[23:49] <mikeru> UkeKun: they do, but it's disabled by default
[23:49] <mikeru> davvo: in that case, SFTP will do no good.
[23:50] <davvo> OSX stays on (log in screen) for about 2 - 10 seconds
[23:50] <davvo> then sleeps
[23:50] <mikeru> davvo: AH-
[23:50] <davvo> as i say - water damaged
[23:50] <mikeru> I think
[23:50] <mikeru> maybe
[23:50] <mikeru> and then - just maybe
[23:50] <mikeru> whatever checks if the lid is closed was water damaged
[23:50] <whiteknight> I have a lexmark x5400 series, any idea where I can get a driver that will do more than spit paper at me?
[23:50] <mikeru> and so os x goes to sleep
[23:50] <davvo> yep!
[23:51] <davvo> what im hoping is - i can try all these things out just so i can access my hard drive at admin level so i can backup, delete card numbers, then send my lappy off to repair
[23:51] <mikeru> davvo: hmm
[23:51] <mikeru> lemme think
[23:52] <davvo> i have been offered to borrow a macbook from someone but that wont be for a while
[23:52] <davvo> the quicker i get this off to repair the better :)
[23:52] <UkeKun> KE1HA I would try getting an old version of ubuntu and compile the toolchain there but the only internet on my desktop is an N-wireless card that's only been supported properly (no random drops) in 10.04
[23:53] <mikeru> davvo: sorry I'm not in OS X and I don't have the time to go there
[23:53] <mikeru> davvo: try backuping with ubuntu live cd
[23:53] <davvo> don't worry, apprciated
[23:53] <KE1HA> whiteknight, Lexmark is one of the most Un-Linux Friendly printers availble. I've not found too many sucess stories regarding drivers. HP on the other hand,, Supports Linux well.
[23:53] <davvo> ok, using acpi-off ?
[23:53] <davvo> =
[23:53] <mikeru> acpi=off
[23:53] <mikeru> yup
[23:54] <mikeru> remember
[23:54] <davvo> yep, im kinda ok with boot options and things :)
[23:54] <the_e> can someone help me with this error msg: ERROR: Module xpad does not exist in /proc/modules/
[23:54] <mikeru> okok
[23:54] <davvo> thank alot guys!
[23:54] <KE1HA> UkeKun, You could install a virtual Desktoip and load whatever version you needed there.
[23:54] <mikeru> whiteknight: listen to the words of wisdom from KE1HA. lexmark plain sucks
[23:54] <mikeru> davvo: did it work
[23:54] <mikeru> =
[23:54] <mikeru> ?
[23:54] <trojan_spike> xpad sticky notes?
[23:54] <FloodBot4> mikeru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <the_e> xpad for 360 controller
[23:55] <the_e> its confusing....I thought the same thing
[23:55] <mikeru> xpad vs xboxdrv - which one?
[23:55] <the_e> thats the thing
[23:55] <mikeru> the_e
[23:55] <the_e> I'm trying to get xboxdrv to work
[23:55] <the_e> (for XBMC)
[23:55] <linguini> ubuntu only displays 800x600 for my admittedly old but much more capable Sony GDM-20F03.  How can I go about getting a better, correct resolution?
[23:55] <the_e> but I'm getting an error following the rules, but I did it before and couldnt remember how
[23:55] <mikeru> linguini: enable Restricted Drivers
[23:55] <UkeKun> what mikeru said
[23:56] <linguini> I installed ddcprobe, but running it as sudo seemed to freeze the machine...
[23:56] <mikeru> ddcprobe?
[23:56] <linguini> mikeru, Ah, I'll look for that...
[23:56] <mikeru> why
[23:56] <whiteknight> KEIMA.  Thanx, guees i'll keep using windows to print..  Amy idea what HP model works best?
[23:56] <mikeru> System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[23:56] <mikeru> on Gnome menu
[23:56] <teamcoltra> I am having this weird issue that started popping up where when I come out of screensaver it asks me to put in my password, then I put it in, and as soon as I move the mouse it flips back to the locked screen and I have to put in my password again
[23:57] <UkeKun> brb i can't stand the noise of my gpu with no driver loaded  :P
[23:57] <the_e> my script is export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.  rmmod xpad modprobe uinput modprobe joydev ./xbox_for_XBMC_live.v1 --wid 0 -s -l 2 --dpad-as-button --deadzone 12000 -- trigger as z-axis
[23:57] <the_e> but I get ERROR: Module xpad does not exist in /proc/modules/ and ./script.sh: line 11 ./xboxdrv_blah is a directory
[23:57] <the_e> the folder names are correct in terminal
[23:57] <the_e> im just using a different PC for IRC
[23:58] <linguini> mikeru, "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system."  Hmm
[23:58] <mikeru> linguini: they aren't in use, but are they available?
[23:58] <whiteknight> I ado appriciate the help to all...guess I beeter fork out anf get another printer..any suggestions?
[23:59] <linguini> There are none listed in what appears to be a list dialog box...
[23:59] <mikeru> ah
[23:59] <mikeru> then
[23:59] <mikeru> linguini: open a terminal and type 'lspci'
[23:59] <mikeru> then pastebin it
[23:59] <Mr_Sonoma> whiteknight, the 1522nf (multi function printer) has served me well for years
[23:59] <mikeru> whiteknight: HP