[00:00] <X3> mm I chose my team to review it but its not clear the process
[00:00] <thumper> X3: approved
[00:00] <X3> thx
[00:00] <wgrant> mtaylor: I'm not sure if that's actually linked from anywhere.
[00:00] <mtaylor> wgrant: :)
[00:00] <thumper> X3: yes, we should make that more clear
[00:00] <thumper> X3: it is on my extremely long todo list
[00:00] <wgrant> thumper: Fail. bzr-svn config corrupt.
[00:01] <thumper> ✁☹
[00:02] <thumper> wgrant: losa pinged
[00:02] <X3> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52660057/x3lectric-xbmc-xbmc-svn-trunk.log
[00:02] <X3> failed??
[00:02] <[Dmitry]> hi all
[00:02] <[Dmitry]> Q: Where can I download the server part of version control system bazaar?
[00:03] <wgrant> X3: It's a general problem. A sysadmin will fix it shortly, then the import can be retried.
[00:03] <X3> ah thanks a bunch
[00:04] <jelmer> There is also a more permanent fix that should land soon.
[00:04] <X3> im dizzie this is so... draining
[00:04] <X3> its beta so meh
[00:04] <wgrant> It's sadly not perfect yet, no :(
[00:04] <wgrant> But it's getting there.
[00:05] <X3> :)
[00:08] <spm> thumper: yo
[00:08] <thumper> spm: hi, talking to mbarnett
[00:11]  * spm tries not to feel slighted, but it hurts. it hurts deep.
[00:12]  * X3 didnt know this was a soap
[00:14] <thumper> X3: what was a soap?
[00:14] <[Dmitry]> Q: Where can I download the server part of version control system bazaar?
[00:14] <thumper> [Dmitry]: what do you mean?
[00:15] <[Dmitry]> thumper: I want to install in their bazaar. As such I can do this with SVN. Locally
[00:15] <thumper> [Dmitry]: bazaar is a DVCS, the application is all you need
[00:16] <thumper> [Dmitry]: bzr can talk dumb file protocols like ftp, sftp, http, access over NFS, or use a smart server
[00:16] <[Dmitry]> thumper: And how can I create a repository in their local machine?
[00:16] <thumper> bzr init-repo <location>
[00:16] <thumper> do you have access to their machine?
[00:16] <[Dmitry]> Yes :)
[00:17] <thumper> then log into their machine, and do the init-repo command in the right place
[00:17] <thumper> that is all
[00:18] <[Dmitry]> mm
[00:18] <thumper> the remote machine should have bzr installed too
[00:18] <thumper> [Dmitry]: what exactly are you trying to do?
[00:18] <[Dmitry]> bzr installed in my netbook
[00:18] <[Dmitry]> Created repositories.
[00:19] <[Dmitry]> And what address to write that would make there commit?
[00:20] <thumper> [Dmitry]: with distributed version control systems, you make local commits, then push copies of your branches around
[00:20] <thumper> [Dmitry]: you don't often commit directly on the remote machine
[00:21] <[Dmitry]>  I just want to have analog svn only locally, because the code I can not put in public access
[00:26] <thumper> [Dmitry]: you don't need a remote server to have bzr branches (unlike svn)
[00:26] <[Dmitry]>  Yes, it seems I already understood.
[00:27] <[Dmitry]>  I am just an extension for nautilus wrote that the branch I created in my local repository as read-only
[01:15] <snowdrop> At sourceforge there's an easy way for mortals to download /trunk as a tar-package. Is there any such function at Launchpad, using Bazaar? What's the eaisest way for me to allow people to easily get a copy of all the files in /trunk?
[01:15] <micahg> snowdrop: if it's set up, bzr branch lp:projectname
[01:16] <snowdrop> micahg: Hehe.. yeah, but common people don't have bzr setup... heck, they dont even have Linux... (not that I know if bzr works in DOS or whatever is on a win-machine..)
[01:17] <micahg> snowdrop: oh, sorry, you said as a tar package :)
[01:18] <micahg> snowdrop: bug 515128
[01:18] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 515128 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "Launchpad should make tarballs of branches available for download (affected: 1, heat: 1)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/515128
[01:18] <snowdrop> micahg: Well, to be honest, _any_ package of the standard compressions would do... goal is to simply give people a url, they press it, and suddenly they're downloading the freshly baked /trunk directly from Bazaar.
[01:18] <snowdrop> micahg: Ahh.. thanks. Nice to see it's on it's way then =)
[01:19] <spm> snowdrop: they way i deal with it on mine; is the normal tarball i'd create to distribute is made available. a tad different to 'trunk', but may go some way?
[01:19] <micahg> snowdrop: you can mark as affecting you (that's the LP way of "voting" for a bug)
[01:19] <snowdrop> =)
[01:27] <snowdrop> when doing a "bzr push" to LP all i see is "-  48785KB    57KB/s | Fetching revisions:Inserting stream       "  ....it doesn't actually tell which file it's working on uploading, like it did in SVN. Is there a way to taim it?
[01:28] <micahg> snowdrop: does -v help?
[01:29] <snowdrop> micahg: Will check on next push... it's working as we write, don't dare kill it = P
[01:42] <maxb> snowdrop: No. bzr doesn't have that sort of display because it doesn't necessary operate file by file
[01:43] <snowdrop> maxb: Ah.. oki. Thanks.
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[04:13] <MTecknology> *sigh* 4 seconds until build time for a ppa is a long long time..
[04:14] <MTecknology> :P
[04:29] <doctormo> MTecknology: 4 seconds? that sounds short
[04:30] <MTecknology> doctormo: ya, but it's the literal time of those 4 seconds that sucks :P
[04:30] <doctormo> MTecknology: You could just read 1/100th of a blog entry
[04:31] <MTecknology> doctormo: oh
[04:31] <MTecknology> doctormo: now I'm getting "Started 12 minutes ago" so far no build log - this should have built in <7min - I'm thinking there's some massive build going on that's killing things
[04:53] <doctormo> MTecknology: Maybe they're building the Tintanic.
[04:53] <wgrant> MTecknology: Quite the opposite: lots of small builds. But still killing things.
[04:54] <wgrant> In a wonderful cascading torrent of pain and slowness.
[04:54]  * micahg sees another python rebuild :)
[04:54] <wgrant> Yes :(
[04:54] <MTecknology> wgrant: oh....
[04:54] <MTecknology> that explains it
[04:54] <MTecknology> who started the python build?
[04:55] <wgrant> Ubuntu people.
[04:55] <doctormo> How are you wgrant?
[04:55] <micahg> better than last night where private builds took over the archive builders :)
[04:55] <wgrant> Not bad. Yourself?
[04:55] <doctormo> wgrant: Busy as always, like my new guide? http://doctormo.org/2010/07/26/how-to-ask-for-translations/
[04:56] <wgrant> micahg: Yeah, and that was compounded by a bug which broke everything for several hours.
[05:18] <doctormo> wgrant: Not that impressed then? Ah well, do you know about launchpad translation services at all?
[05:19] <wgrant> doctormo: Sorry, a bit busy at the moment.
[05:19] <wgrant> I know a bit about Translations, but it's my weakest LP area.
[05:21] <wgrant> What's the issue? You want to throw that document into Rosetta?
[05:21] <doctormo> heh, wgrant: Consider this, we have a non software project, the ubuntu learning materials project which will make various svg and docbook based documents for training and classrooms. Should we have a project per material or keep each part in a branch but attached to the same project in launchpad? And does this stop us from using translation services?
[05:23] <wgrant> doctormo: It depends how separate they are. It may be benefical to have an Ubuntu Learning Materials project group, with separate projects inside it for each document.
[05:23] <wgrant> Having them in distinct branches within a single project is probably a bad idea.
[05:23] <doctormo> Well each document set would idealy be it's own branch at the very least.
[05:24] <doctormo> Does launchpad not have the concept of sub-projects?
[05:24] <wgrant> Only in that projects can live in a project group.
[05:28] <micahg> wgrant: should the entity just logged in be here?
[05:28] <wgrant> micahg: It's been here for a while, AFAICT.
[05:29] <wgrant> So I presume so.
[05:55] <bilalakhtar> I need help. I requested the first builds of my recipe 2 days ago. At that time, it said 'Build in 1 hour' but it has not built till now. Now, it is showing Build in 5 hours, and the time is ever-increasing. Can someone score it up ?
[06:14] <poolie> Spm^^
[06:31] <spm> bleh. left server. he has no builds waiting.
[07:32] <zooko> Folks: I want to leave a hyperlink from this ticket: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mingw/+bug/461303 to this ticket: http://sourceforge.net/support/tracker.php?aid=2913876 but also I want to mark it as "fix released" in MingW.
[07:32] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 461303 in binutils (Fedora) "generates-bad-code regression (affected: 2, heat: 18)" [Unknown,In progress]
[07:33] <zooko> Currently I can't seem to have both. If I link it to the SF.net ticket then it sets the status to "Unknown"
[07:33] <zooko> and if I want to set the status to "Fix released" then I have to remove the hyperlink to the sf.net ticket.
[08:17] <geser> the status of a remote bug watch gets updated automatically
[08:27] <spiv> Why can't I mark https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~spiv/bzr-builder/merge-subdirs-479705/+merge/14979 as Rejected?  (Superseded would be better, but as I don't want to resubmit to the same target I can understand why that's not available.)
[08:28] <spiv> None of the available options (Work in progress, Needs Review, Merged) accurately describes the state of that proposal.
[08:43] <wgrant> spiv: Unfortunately only a reviewer can reject a proposal.
[08:43] <wgrant> You cannot withdraw without deleting.
[08:51] <spiv> wgrant: thanks.  I've expanded my comments on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/611182 accordingly.
[08:51] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 611182 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "Cannot abandon/supersede merge proposal (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[08:53] <StevenK> spiv: I have spoken to thumper and abentley about stuff similiar at the Epic, and a change that we all agreed was a good idea was being able to change the target branch (and such like) when you resubmit the MP
[08:57] <spiv> StevenK: yes, that would fix this case
[08:57] <spiv> I can imagine others (e.g. abanoning the original branch entirely in favour of a new approach.)
[08:58] <wgrant> I think there should be a Withdrawn status.
[09:01] <spiv> And e.g. even deciding the whole idea is a bad one, and withdrawing with no replacement.
[09:03] <spiv> "Withdrawn" would be nice, although I can see that proliferation of statuses might be a bad idea.  I'd be happy with reusing Rejected or whatever, so long as it is semantically clear that the proposal is a) finished and b) not accepted.  Everything else is icing.
[09:04] <geser> how long does the build dispatcher currently need to dispatch a build? I see jobs in the queue and idling buildds
[09:06] <wgrant> geser: It could be several minutes between cycles. Depending on how pathological the currently dispatched set is, it has even been seen to reach 15 minutes.
[09:06] <noodles775> geser: at the moment it takes a long time to scan all the builders (as uploading the results from completed jobs happens synchronously)... bigjools and jelmer are working on ...
[09:06] <noodles775> ... it. :)
[09:06] <wgrant> But yes, most of it has been fixed in devel, I believe.
[09:06] <wgrant> And the other bit should be fixed soon.
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[11:49] <czajkowski> mrevell: ping I need to pick your brain
[11:49] <mrevell> Hey czajkowski, how can I help?
[11:52] <czajkowski> mrevell: a guy over here is doing his masters on Ubuntu community and did a small project https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/ProfileOfTheDay  he wants to know if it's possible to see on those profile pages on launchpad was there more traffic after he would post about profile of the day
[11:53] <mrevell> czajkowski, Interesting. I should think it's possible but I wouldn't know how. You might want to speak to sinzui (Curtis) when he comes on later. His team look after the people, teams and projects side of LP.
[11:53] <czajkowski> mrevell: thanks
[11:53] <czajkowski> mrevell: wasn't sure to ask.
[11:53] <mrevell> np
[12:07] <X3> hi
[12:07] <X3> is this recipe ok?
[12:07] <X3> # bzr-builder format 0.2 deb-version {debupstream}+{revno}~ppa1
[12:07] <X3> lp:xbmc
[12:07] <X3> nest debian lp:~x3lectric/xbmc/svn-trunk/ubuntu debian
[12:08] <X3> its for here https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~x3lectric/xbmc/svn-trunk
[12:08] <X3> can anyone just double check details to make sure its ok please
[12:11] <X3> im not sure about the lp:xbmc and the nest line
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[12:19] <X3> guess it actually be # bzr-builder format 0.2 deb-version {debupstream}+{revno}~ppa1
[12:20] <X3> lp:~x3lectric/xbmc/svn-trunk
[12:20] <X3> but im well very unsure about final line
[12:20] <maxb> `bzr help builder` should tell you all you need to know
[12:21] <X3> if I understood I wouldnt bother asking
[12:27] <X3> nest debian lp:~x3lectric/xbmc/svn-trunk/ubuntu debian
[12:28] <X3> this lp:~x3lectric/xbmc/svn-trunk exists but the adding ubuntu doesnt will this get created is it right?
[12:50] <umi> hi, I have a quiestion about using Bazaar, is it a proper place to ask?
[12:51] <X3> idk im still waiting for a decent reply
[12:51] <X3> dont ask to ask though
[12:53] <umi> ok, so there's a branch here https://code.launchpad.net/~helh-saintman/+junk/hannibal, and I need to move it here https://code.launchpad.net/~fullcircle-ru/hannibal/main
[12:53] <umi> how do I do it?
[12:54] <umi> I tried to do the following:
[12:54] <umi> bzr branch lp:~helh-saintman/+junk/hannibal
[12:54] <umi> bzr init lp:~fullcircle-ru/hannibal/main
[12:54] <umi> bzr push lp:~fullcircle-ru/hannibal/main
[12:54] <umi> but it doesn't seem to work
[12:55] <jelmer> X3: Hi
[12:55] <jelmer> umi: Hi
[12:55] <X3> hi
[12:56] <umi> hi jelmer
[12:56] <X3> umi im not sure but you can try reg a bazar brach and mirror it
[12:56] <jelmer> X3: "nest debian lp:~x3lectric/xbmc/svn-trunk/ubuntu debian" won't work, as it refers to a directory within a branch
[12:56] <X3> oh
[12:56] <jelmer> X3: if your svn trunk already contains a debian/ directory there is no need for that line
[12:57] <X3> no it doesnt i dont think
[12:57] <jelmer> X3: Is there a debian directory somewhere that it should be using?
[12:57] <jelmer> umi: What doesn't work exactly, do you get an error?
[12:58] <X3> jelmer: the svn doesnt have any debian dir
[12:58] <umi> jelmer: when I tried to do it for the first time I did get an error
[12:58] <umi> $ bzr init lp:~fullcircle-ru/hannibal/main
[12:58] <umi> bzr: ERROR: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', '<Fault -1: "Unexpected Zope exception: LaunchpadTimeoutError: Statement: \'SELECT Account.creation_rationale, Account.date_created, Account.date_status_set, Account.displayname, Account.id, Account.openid_identifier, Account.status, Account.status_comment FROM Account, EmailAddress WHERE EmailAddress.account = Account.id AND LOWER(EmailAddress.email) = %s\'\\nParameters:[<storm.variables.Variable object a
[12:59] <umi> and after that when I tried to do init or push nothing happens. it asks me for the passphrase for my ssh key and then nothing
[12:59] <jelmer> X3: In order to be able to build a source package you need a debian directory, either in the branch you're trying to build or in another branch that you have the recipe merge in.
[13:00] <jelmer> umi: That first error is a timeout, and is a serious issue we need to address.
[13:00] <X3> ya i know but im not sure how to create that :/
[13:00] <jelmer> X3: Do you have experience with python packaging?
[13:00] <jelmer> s/python/debian/
[13:00] <X3> no
[13:01] <X3> im very fresh out of box
[13:01] <jelmer> umi: It looks like a branch was created, although it's still empty at the moment.
[13:01] <jelmer> umi: if you go to the directory that was created by "bzr branch lp:~helh-saintman/+junk/hannibal", you should be able to push to lp:~fullcircle-ru/hannibal/main
[13:02] <umi> jelmer: that's exactly what I was trying to do
[13:02] <jelmer> X3: I would recommend creating a local Debian package based on your trunk first in a separate branch, as that's necessary before creating a recipe anyway.
[13:03] <umi> but after that error any "bzr init" or "bzr push" to lp:~fullcircle-ru/hannibal/main just prompts me to enter my ssh passphrase and then absolutely nothing happens
[13:03] <jelmer> umi: It doesn't give you any output whatsoever?
[13:03] <X3> well there is a ppa with files
[13:04] <X3> https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc-svn/+archive/ppa
[13:04] <jelmer> X3: ah, ok
[13:04] <umi> jelmer: sorry, I should have said that, after a long long long time (after I have already interrupted it with Ctrl+C) it gave some output:
[13:04] <umi> Write failed: Broken pipe
[13:04] <umi> Connection to bazaar.launchpad.net closed by remote host.
[13:04] <umi> Connection to bazaar.launchpad.net closed by remote host.
[13:05] <X3> jelmer but how do i make that recipe work
[13:05] <jelmer> umi: It looks like there is an issue creating a connection with the LP ssh server - does connecting to it with sftp work? (sftp bazaar.launchpad.net) ?
[13:06] <umi> jelmer: let me try
[13:07] <umi> works fine
[13:07] <jelmer> X3: Create a clone of your branch that contains the debian/ directory (you should be able to get that from the source packages in the PPA). In the recipe, add a line like "merge packaging lp:~team-xmbc-svn/xmbc/packaging"
[13:08] <X3> ah right
[13:08] <jelmer> X3: That way the builder will take the latest version from trunk (as present in the first line of the recipe) and then merge in the packaging metadata.
[13:08] <X3> mmm
[13:09] <jelmer> it will update the changelog when it builds a new snapshot, you don't have to do that manually
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[13:18] <X3> thx jelmer
[13:19] <X3> im not sure its gonna work lauchpad wont let me edit recipe atm it gives errors says disable redirection but nothing happens
[13:19] <jelmer> X3: What are the errors exactly?
[13:21] <X3> (Error ID: OOPS-1671EC2661)
[13:21] <ubot5> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1671EC2661
[13:21] <X3> very helful ubotu /not
[13:22] <X3> wants password and wont accept my usr/pass
[13:22] <X3> jokes
[13:23] <X3> nm im not that rushed
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[13:25] <bpeel> can anyone help me get my package uploaded to my PPA ? I keep getting emails with "Unable to find mash-0.1_0.1.0.orig.tar.gz in upload or distribution" after I do dput
[13:26] <bpeel> i tried explicitly upload the source tar ball again with scp and then rerunning dput, but it didn't help
[13:28] <umi> jelmer: so the sftp works fine
[13:29] <jelmer> X3: This is a strange error - apparently the branch no longer exists?
[13:30] <noodles775> bpeel: see "Options when building" at https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage
[13:30] <noodles775> bpeel: basically, I think you need to do `debuild -S -sa`
[13:30] <bpeel> oh cool, thanks noodles775
[13:30] <noodles775> no problem.
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[13:58] <umi> jelmer: do you have any other suggestions? what should I do ?
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[14:06] <MTecknology> Can any random person add a milestone and download to a project?
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[14:22] <jelmer> umi: I'm not sure what could be going wrong. Can you perhaps ask a question in the launchpad-code project?
[14:23] <jelmer> MTecknology: I think it's just people who are a member of the team that owns the project.
[14:23] <umi> jelmer: ok, thank you for your help
[14:27] <MTecknology> jelmer: That's what I thought too - but somehow someone that isn't us is adding them
[14:28] <jelmer> MTecknology: what project is this?
[14:30] <MTecknology> jelmer: nginx
[14:31] <czajkowski> sinzui: you about for a moment ?
[14:31] <sinzui> Hi czajkowski
[14:31] <czajkowski> sinzui: mrevell said you might be the person to ask
[14:31] <czajkowski> 11:51 < czajkowski> mrevell: a guy over here is doing his masters on Ubuntu  community and did a small project  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/ProfileOfTheDay  he  wants to know if it's possible to see on those profile  pages on launchpad was there more traffic after he would  post about profile of the day
[14:31] <sinzui> about page traffic?
[14:32] <sinzui> I have never seen traffic reports for launchpad pages.
[14:32] <czajkowski> aye neither have I
[14:32] <sinzui> I need to ask someone if I can access/see the google analytics for pages
[14:32] <czajkowski> thanks
[14:33] <jelmer> MTecknology: If you have a download pattern configured launchpad will automatically add milestones and downloads when it sees them appear.
[14:34] <jelmer> could that be what it is perhaps?
[14:36] <MTecknology> jelmer: heh.... that would be it indeed..
[14:37] <MTecknology> jelmer: thanks :)
[14:38] <jelmer> MTecknology: no worries, glad it's not a security issue :-)
[14:38] <MTecknology> jelmer: nope, it's a feature :)
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[15:00] <sjamaan> thumper: here?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> qq guys, why does my wiki keep jumping between release themes, one day its in Kubuntu theme, the next its in Edubuntu and others its in plain ol Ubuntu https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ActionParsnip
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> or am I asking in the wrong place?
[15:52] <Userx7> can somebody help me submit a bug report? I don't see the fields i expect thanks
[15:52] <geser> because of the domain you access it through: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ActionParsnip vs. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ActionParsnip vs https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ActionParsnip
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[15:59] <bdrung> i am trying to download an attachment via launchpadlib. i have the attachment object. how can i proceed?
[15:59] <james_w> bdrung: you read the content and write it to a file on disk
[15:59] <bdrung> attachment.data gives an lazr.restfulclient.resource.HostedFile
[16:00] <bdrung> james_w: what attributes does it have? can i read it with attachment.data.read()?
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[16:26] <bdrung> ok, found it: attachment.data.open()
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[16:31] <mattl> hey... i'm sure i'm just missing something obvious... how can i log into launchpad using my own OpenID, rather than a launchpad provided one?
[16:34] <maxb> That feature doesn't exist yet
[16:36] <mattl> ah, okay. np.
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[17:33] <Kangarooo> hello in LP bugs any one can make tags.. yes? so why sometimes somebody removes my tags?
[17:34] <beuno> Kangarooo, anybody can add tags
[17:34] <beuno> and anybody can remove them
[17:34] <Kangarooo> ok i can add again my tag to bug my tag was removed but it messes then bug report.. makes a comment about new tag added..
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[17:36] <nhandler> Kangarooo: Certain projects have certain guidelines about which tags should get applied to which bugs. If your tag doesn't fit those guidelines, it might get removed again.
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[17:49] <coolbhavi> hi all
[17:49] <coolbhavi> is bugs.launchpad.net down?
[17:50] <coolbhavi> I am getting Error ID: OOPS-1671L1300
[17:50] <ubot5> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1671L1300
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[18:00] <shadeslayer> coolbhavi: seems to be working for me
[18:03] <jelmer> hi shadeslayer
[18:03] <shadeslayer> jelmer: \o
[18:03] <jelmer> shadeslayer: You're in luck, I spent some time yesterday night on that KDE repo bug
[18:04] <shadeslayer> oh goody :D
[18:04] <shadeslayer> is it good to import now? :P
[18:04] <jelmer> not yet, but very close
[18:04] <shadeslayer> project neon is stuck till its working again ^_^
[18:04] <shadeslayer> jelmer: awesome :D
[18:04] <shadeslayer> thanks for looking at it
[18:06]  * shadeslayer pokes his kdelibs build....
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[18:31] <pmatulis> re PPA GPG keys, is it normal for a public key to be the same for different PPAs when those PPAs are attributed to the same person?
[18:31] <bigjools> pmatulis: yes
[18:32] <pmatulis> bigjools: k
[18:38] <pmatulis> is there any way to properly (non-manually) revert to non-PPA packages?  ex: i've installed php5 from a PPA and saw that it dragged in a dependency (also in the PPA).  to revert i can force the earlier php5 version (which itself is not ideal) but what about the dependencies?  do i need to track them down and force them as well?
[18:39] <micahg> pmatulis: ppa-purge in maverick?
[18:39] <pmatulis> micahg: i've heard about that, but anyway, this is lucid
[18:40] <micahg> pmatulis: you can download the .deb from launchpad for it
[18:41] <pmatulis> micahg: so that is the only way?
[18:41] <micahg> pmatulis: you can use aptitude to try to figure out how to downgrade the packages
[18:46] <pmatulis> micahg: ok, so not obvious
[18:48] <shadeslayer> micahg: theres ppa-purge? which package? :D
[18:49] <micahg> shadeslayer: ppa-purge :P
[18:49] <shadeslayer> no such package :P
[18:49] <micahg> shadeslayer: in maverick
[18:49] <shadeslayer> yep
[18:49] <shadeslayer> im on maverick
[18:49] <pmatulis> !info ppa-purge
[18:49] <micahg> shadeslayer: oh, maybe it's stuck in new
[18:49] <ubot5> Package ppa-purge does not exist in lucid
[18:49] <shadeslayer> micahg: when was it introduced?
[18:49] <pmatulis> !info ppa-purge maverick
[18:49] <ubot5> Package ppa-purge does not exist in maverick
[18:49] <shadeslayer> ah thats why.. :D
[18:49] <X3> shadeslayer: hey
[18:50] <shadeslayer> micahg: new wont be look at for another week i think
[18:50] <shadeslayer> X3: \o
[18:50] <micahg> shadeslayer: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ppa-purge/0+bzr46.1/+build/1892013
[18:50] <shadeslayer> Binary packages awaiting approval in NEW queue: << :P
[18:50] <shadeslayer> its a good idea tho
[18:51] <shadeslayer> expunging PPA's
[18:51] <shadeslayer> X3: i checked the builds at School today, it said 6 hours.. checking again now
[18:52] <X3> its same
[18:52] <shadeslayer> also python seems to be ruling all builders
[18:52] <X3> slowww
[18:52] <shadeslayer> no its just that python 2.7 just hit buildd
[18:53] <shadeslayer> and that will kill the chances of lm-sensors building before monday
[18:53] <shadeslayer> X3: https://edge.launchpad.net/builders
[18:54] <shadeslayer> and then im going to pwn all the other free builders....
[18:54] <shadeslayer> with kdelibs :P
[18:57] <X3> lol at this rate it will be weeks b4 that is done
[18:59] <bigjools> I rescored the python rebuild earlier, it's behind everything else now
[19:02] <micahg> thanks bigjools
[19:03] <shadeslayer> bigjools: awesome :D
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[23:48] <corecode> hey, something is wrong with my milestone view: https://launchpad.net/lightning-exchange-provider/+milestones