| === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim | ||
| Volkodav | I created /boot partition as sdc2 but the installer fails to install grub there ? | 01:10 |
|---|---|---|
| Daekdroom | Volkodav, what partition type is it? | 01:11 |
| Volkodav | tried ext3 and 4 | 01:11 |
| Volkodav | then installed to MBR to different drive and then get the error on inserting btrfs and also no /sbin/init in the system | 01:12 |
| Volkodav | Hmm tried both alpha 2 and daily alternate CD's | 01:15 |
| Volkodav | I just mounted it and home and boot are empty - so the install failed I guess ? | 01:27 |
| napsy | Hello. When trying to install catalyst draivers from "Hardware drivers" I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/M7CGYfHK Any fixes? | 01:50 |
| DanaG | Say, is it normal for the search box in unity not to do jack-diddly-squat? (yes, I am mixing expressions, I think). | 02:49 |
| DanaG | I type in it, and letters appear. Period. Nothing else happens. | 02:49 |
| === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity | ||
| === wgrant_ is now known as wgrnat | ||
| === wgrnat is now known as wgrant | ||
| Volkodav | what are the values in /etc/fstab for btrfs for ssd ? | 04:25 |
| Volkodav | looks like ssd is all it needs really | 04:45 |
| ripps | lol, the libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 in maverick breaks almost every package in my system | 05:10 |
| Volkodav | same here | 05:12 |
| ZykoticK9 | Cross post from #ubuntu, but hoping someone closer to the development community might have an insight. What's up with the version number, in Lucid right now? "lsb_release -d" in terminal is showing "Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS" currently. But according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule 10.04.1 is suppose to be released on August 12th? | 05:12 |
| kklimonda | ZykoticK9: it got bumped in preparation for the point release. one less thing to worry about during release process | 05:23 |
| ZykoticK9 | kklimonda, thanks. That's a lot better answer then the "it's lieing" in #ubuntu. Take care. | 05:24 |
| DanaG | That's part of the release process. | 05:47 |
| DanaG | The "release" is just when they say "these packages as they are now, are the release". | 05:47 |
| DanaG | The system builds the release automatically. | 05:47 |
| DanaG | So they have to change the version, then build the "release" on that changed version. | 05:48 |
| DanaG | At least, that's my impression. | 05:48 |
| Tohuw | Why isn't aptitude included in 10.10? | 06:47 |
| Tohuw | My sloppily researched conclusion had always been that apt-get doesn't handle unused dependencies in some cases when removing packages. | 06:48 |
| ajmitch | afaik it is included, just not on the default install | 06:48 |
| Tohuw | oh, it's in the repos | 06:48 |
| Tohuw | I just thought it odd they would preclude it from the default packages. | 06:49 |
| Tohuw | eh, every time I try empathy I end up going back to Pidgin. It looks like this will be no exception... empathy is a very lackluster IRC client | 06:50 |
| DanaG | Empathy is a pathetic, well, anything. | 06:50 |
| Tohuw | ^ | 06:50 |
| Tohuw | The decision to leave Pidgin was a poor one, in my mind. | 06:51 |
| Tohuw | oh hey, removing empathy and empathy-common no longer breaks ubuntu-desktop | 06:55 |
| Tohuw | also, i'm going to crash in a moment | 06:55 |
| Volkodav | empathy sucks | 07:03 |
| kklimonda | Volkodav: that's great - thanks for sharing your insight with us | 07:34 |
| Volkodav | anytime | 07:34 |
| Machtin | hey guys. is it me or is java gone from the repos? | 08:25 |
| kklimonda | no, it's there | 08:28 |
| void^ | sun-java was moved to partner repo in lucid | 08:37 |
| Machtin | yep, read that.. was it renamed? | 08:44 |
| Machtin | java6-runtime <- is it that one then, i guess? | 08:45 |
| napsy | Hello. Are the linux-image and linux-headers packages in sync yet? | 09:34 |
| === napsy is now known as Guest79647 | ||
| Guest79647 | The Last update broke kernel versions and catalyst modules can't compile | 09:38 |
| napsy | Is there a way to turn on power-saving for opensource radeon drivers? | 10:53 |
| sepidev | Why everything (GUI Apps) in ubuntu 10.10 works 30% to 50% slower than the normal situation. Is is a X11 bug? | 11:28 |
| Volkodav | Anybody tested the SSD on brtfs with write cache on/off ? I am reading different results | 11:28 |
| Volkodav | trying to figure what will be a better option for performance/life expextancy | 11:30 |
| sepidev | I need some advices about maverick | 11:31 |
| sepidev | everything(GUI apps) works slower (30% to 40% )than normal situation. | 11:32 |
| sepidev | I think there would be an X11 bug, but i can find a viable solution | 11:33 |
| sepidev | hey... | 11:34 |
| Crashbit | sepidev: I think there would be a GTK bug | 11:35 |
| sepidev | maybe... but how can i get rid of it? | 11:36 |
| sepidev | some gtk themes such as elemetary affect the performance drastically | 11:36 |
| Crashbit | I don't know, I think it's a bug with RGBA (transparency) | 11:37 |
| sepidev | I searched into "Configuration Editor" to find a way to disable RGBA mode, but i found nothing. | 11:39 |
| Crashbit | sepidev: I have the same problem and "gtkperf" shows poor perfomance | 11:45 |
| sepidev | Crashbit: Have you found a way? | 11:47 |
| kklimonda | I don't think there is a simple workaround other than changing a theme | 11:48 |
| Crashbit | I'm searching in launchpad for GTK and RGBA bugs, but I don't see any bug that correspond with what happens | 12:15 |
| kklimonda | one of bugs that you may be affected by is bug 595845 | 12:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 595845 in cairo (Ubuntu) "libcairo2 1.9.10 makes Ubuntu 10.10 slow" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595845 | 12:18 |
| gnomefreak | #ubuntu-bugs would be the best place to ask | 12:19 |
| gnomefreak | they might know more | 12:19 |
| om26er | Crashbit, but that change is not in maverick I think | 12:32 |
| Crashbit | om26er: I don't know, with clearlooks theme, the perfomance is better than ambiance, but transparencies doesn't work correctly | 12:35 |
| om26er | Crashbit, these are the bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gtk-csd but the change is not in maverick. they are from alpha2 when gtk had csd support | 12:35 |
| om26er | there is a gtk update which apparently seem to remove way too many things.. | 12:44 |
| om26er | anyone else have it? | 12:44 |
| gnomefreak | i didnt see it but let me check to make sure | 12:45 |
| Sarvatt | om26er: it's been fixed for a few hours here | 12:46 |
| gnomefreak | gtk2-engines-pixbuf gir1.0-gtk-2.0 were the only ones by the look of it | 12:46 |
| gnomefreak | a few other libgtks as well | 12:46 |
| gnomefreak | Sarvatt: do you have the fixed version | 12:47 |
| Sarvatt | it was libwmf | 12:48 |
| Sarvatt | i think, it stopped trying to remove most of gnome on dist-upgrade once that update came along | 12:49 |
| gnomefreak | well an hour ago i did dist-upgrade and it didnt want to remove anything, but added a few packages | 12:50 |
| Sarvatt | yeah last night up until a few hours ago it was trying to remove most of gnome, guessing om26er's mirror is just lagging | 12:52 |
| * om26er switches the mirror | 12:52 | |
| gnomefreak | gb is one of the best to use | 12:52 |
| gnomefreak | i use it and i get updates when i should :) | 12:52 |
| Volkodav | what is that mirror ? mine still wants to remove | 12:57 |
| gnomefreak | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted sorry i forgot to add the gb when i removed us | 13:00 |
| gnomefreak | Volkodav: i recommend using gb depending on wher eyou are | 13:00 |
| Volkodav | US | 13:01 |
| gnomefreak | Volkodav: than either use gb.archive (just adding the gb and the . | 13:01 |
| gnomefreak | or just remove us. | 13:01 |
| * Volkodav fixing | 13:02 | |
| gnomefreak | me too :) | 13:02 |
| gnomefreak | it seems partner repo doesnt like gb | 13:06 |
| gnomefreak | never had issues with it before | 13:06 |
| Volkodav | I'll try some UK | 13:06 |
| gnomefreak | gb is in UK (at lleast i am pretty sure | 13:07 |
| gnomefreak | ) | 13:07 |
| Volkodav | I don't see on the list though | 13:07 |
| * gnomefreak has a hard time remebering what countries are part of UK | 13:08 | |
| gnomefreak | !mirrors | 13:08 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Lucid, and help keeping the servers' load low! | 13:08 |
| gnomefreak | Volkodav: try one of there on the link(s) | 13:08 |
| gnomefreak | damn smart got fast | 13:09 |
| gnomefreak | Channels have 30538 new packages. | 13:09 |
| Volkodav | :) | 13:09 |
| gnomefreak | Computing transaction... | 13:10 |
| gnomefreak | No interesting upgrades available. :) | 13:10 |
| * gnomefreak uses it due to the things it says | 13:11 | |
| Pici | !mirrorstatus | also | 13:12 |
| ubottu | also: A list of official repository mirrors and their statuses can be found at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors | 13:12 |
| * gnomefreak not sure how to word this | 13:12 | |
| gnomefreak | mvo: any chance smartpm will get an overhauled gui (i dont like the fact that it gives you the folders with the packages in side.) but maybe that is just me :( | 13:14 |
| * gnomefreak tries to stick to terminal rather than gui | 13:14 | |
| gnomefreak | ok we should really rename !mirros or alias it | 13:16 |
| Pici | gnomefreak: go for it | 13:17 |
| gnomefreak | Pici: im thinking | 13:17 |
| * gnomefreak goes for smoke to think | 13:17 | |
| Volkodav | Utah server is up to date | 13:20 |
| Volkodav | all good | 13:23 |
| Volkodav | hmm can't get vlc smplayer or xine-ui installed | 13:36 |
| Volkodav | borked packages and dependencies | 13:37 |
| gnomefreak | xine has depends issues | 13:42 |
| gnomefreak | has for a few days now | 13:42 |
| Volkodav | same as the other two | 13:44 |
| head_victim | xine just worked for me | 13:49 |
| head_victim | And I installed vlc yesterday or the day before? | 13:49 |
| gnomefreak | it does work now | 13:50 |
| Volkodav | can not get any of them installed for 2 days now - just checked again | 13:50 |
| Volkodav | maybe it is on x86_64 | 13:50 |
| gnomefreak | yep me niether but i just installed xine-ui | 13:50 |
| head_victim | Hmm odd, the mirror I use is saying up to date on launchpad as well so it's not lagging behind | 13:50 |
| head_victim | I am on 64 bit | 13:51 |
| Volkodav | xine-ui: | 13:51 |
| Volkodav | Depends: libxine1 but it is not going to be installed | 13:51 |
| Volkodav | Depends: vlc-nox but it is not going to be installed | 13:51 |
| Volkodav | Recommends: vlc-plugin-pulse but it is not going to be installed | 13:51 |
| gnomefreak | libxine1 is already the newest version. | 13:52 |
| gnomefreak | libxine1 set to manually installed. | 13:52 |
| head_victim | Yeah both are here as well. | 13:52 |
| head_victim | so gnomefreak are you on 64 as well? Volkodav you are on 32? | 13:53 |
| gnomefreak | yeah vlc is still broken | 13:54 |
| Volkodav | 64 | 13:54 |
| gnomefreak | im on 32 | 13:54 |
| head_victim | Odd, I have both installed on 64, going to set up a 32 install as well to confirm | 13:54 |
| Volkodav | http://pastie.org/1065358 | 13:55 |
| gnomefreak | anyone know what format cds use? | 13:55 |
| Volkodav | that's what it offers | 13:55 |
| Pici | gnomefreak: iso9660 | 13:55 |
| gnomefreak | music cd? Pici | 13:55 |
| Pici | uh | 13:56 |
| gnomefreak | Volkodav: yeah using apt-get will cause depends issue. aptitude tends to get into trouble sometimes | 13:57 |
| gnomefreak | aptitude does as you tell it to no matter what (you can also choose from different ways to do it) | 13:59 |
| gnomefreak | smartpm does the same thing sometimes | 14:00 |
| Volkodav | yeah | 14:00 |
| gnomefreak | coffee run | 14:00 |
| Volkodav | Depends: libmpcdec3 which is a virtual package - that's a show stopper | 14:01 |
| yofel_ | Volkodav: what app? | 14:04 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Volkodav | xine-ui | 14:04 |
| yofel | needs a rebuild then | 14:05 |
| yofel | maverick has libmpcdec6 | 14:05 |
| Volkodav | well I'll wait then | 14:05 |
| === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| gnomefreak | anyone else notice F-spot crashing? | 14:20 |
| Volkodav | I use mirage | 14:20 |
| Volkodav | light and fast | 14:20 |
| gnomefreak | i want f-spot screen saver so i kind of need it | 14:21 |
| head_victim | I can confirm the fault with vlc on 32bit looking for vlc-plugin-pulse, working fine on 64 | 14:49 |
| Volkodav | hmm | 14:49 |
| head_victim | xine-ui worked fine though | 14:49 |
| head_victim | I'm new to this alpha stuff should we wait a day or so to see if it's going to be built or file a bug? | 14:50 |
| Volkodav | nah - wait it'll get fixed | 14:52 |
| head_victim | No worries. | 14:52 |
| === napsy is now known as Guest13130 | ||
| === 14WAAZ29V is now known as foxbuntu | ||
| sinurge | does anyone know of a good news reader | 16:35 |
| sinurge | oops sorry wrong forum | 16:36 |
| charlie-tca | sinurge: I like liferea | 16:39 |
| sinurge | thanks charlie-tca but would like something from the terminal | 16:52 |
| charlie-tca | newsbeuter was good for terminal | 16:56 |
| charlie-tca | even allows podcasts | 16:56 |
| === napsy is now known as Guest38932 | ||
| === Guest38932 is now known as napsy | ||
| === Daekdroom is now known as Guest49534 | ||
| LucidFox | Wow | 18:13 |
| LucidFox | just updated to Maverick on my netbook, the Unity UI looks really slick, kudos for that | 18:14 |
| LucidFox | but how do I add an application icon to the left navigation bar? | 18:14 |
| ChogyDan | hey guys, is there a way to explore the maverick packages without installing maverick? | 18:20 |
| Volkodav | read about them | 18:21 |
| Volkodav | look at screenshots | 18:21 |
| Volkodav | :-D | 18:21 |
| ChogyDan | Volkodav: I mean where, how | 18:21 |
| ChogyDan | packages.ubuntu.com is still down... | 18:22 |
| Volkodav | http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha2 | 18:22 |
| ChogyDan | ah, I see what you are saying | 18:22 |
| yofel | ChogyDan: you could query the bot '/msg ubottu info <packagename> maverick' | 18:27 |
| Volkodav | yofel what's up | 18:27 |
| Volkodav | did you bench your SSD on brtfs with/without cache write | 18:28 |
| Pici | I use rmadison myself. | 18:28 |
| Volkodav | I have a strange feeling close to almost sure that ext4 tuned up for ssd in 10.4 is snappier then 10.10 with brtfs on the same drive | 18:29 |
| ChogyDan | yofel: thanks | 18:30 |
| Volkodav | at least boot almost twice faster | 18:30 |
| yofel | Volkodav: nope, my ssd is still using ext4, I don't really have the time to reinstall currently ./ | 18:32 |
| yofel | and pretty much everyone seems to say that btrfs is slow, especially with dpkg | 18:32 |
| Volkodav | I did side by side install on the same drive - maverick has twice larger partiton and still feels slower:-( | 18:32 |
| yofel | I guess it's not so bad with an ssd, but still.. | 18:33 |
| Volkodav | it really is | 18:33 |
| Volkodav | I can really tell the difference between 10.4 on ext4 | 18:33 |
| dupondje | Somebody else having the problem that Terminal is sometimes getting closed when trying to close another program ? | 19:22 |
| dupondje | I close for example firefox who is on top | 19:22 |
| dupondje | bug instead of firefox closing, terminal is closing | 19:22 |
| Chipaca | dupondje: yes | 19:29 |
| yofel | dupondje: you mean closing from the taskbar or by the window close button? | 19:30 |
| Chipaca | close button | 19:30 |
| yofel | doesn't happen here (KDE) | 19:31 |
| Chipaca | not just with the terminal, however; a couple of times the window that is not the topmost one of a stack of maximized windows closes instead of the topmostest one | 19:31 |
| Chipaca | once, the terminal, but another time it was chromium | 19:31 |
| Chipaca | the terminal asked because I had several tabs open, fortunately | 19:31 |
| patdk-wk | doesn't happen for me, using gnome | 19:32 |
| patdk-wk | I have 50 packages since yesterday to update though :( | 19:32 |
| patdk-wk | ok, updated, rebooted, still can't make that issue happen | 19:39 |
| Daekdroom | Never happened here. | 19:40 |
| dr3mro | hello please I want to participate to ubuntu ... where do I start.. I want to be a developer with python please any one guide me the way thnx | 20:23 |
| BUGabundo | anyone noticed faster boots in this last few days? | 20:25 |
| yofel | !contribute | dupondje | 20:27 |
| ubottu | dupondje: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate | 20:27 |
| yofel | !contribute | dr3mro | 20:27 |
| ubottu | dr3mro: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate | 20:27 |
| yofel | sry dupondje | 20:27 |
| patdk-wk | BUGabundo, nope, mine is always fast :) | 20:30 |
| * BUGabundo steals patdk-wk ultra fast SSDs | 20:31 | |
| patdk-wk | my laptop :) | 20:31 |
| patdk-wk | but I was meaning my esxi :) | 20:31 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| IdleOne | !packaging | dr3mro | 20:34 |
| ubottu | dr3mro: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports | 20:34 |
| BUGabundo | http://bootcharts.f.bugabundo.net/ | 20:37 |
| BUGabundo | here are my boot charts | 20:37 |
| BUGabundo | they really show faster boots | 20:37 |
| dupondje | yofel: windows close button | 21:49 |
| dupondje | Chipaca: you know if there is some bug about it ? | 21:49 |
| Chipaca | dupondje: no. Until you asked, I thought it was just me or something :) | 21:49 |
| dupondje | seems not :P | 21:51 |
| dupondje | but I have no idea where to file a bug ... | 21:51 |
| dupondje | what package .. | 21:52 |
| Chipaca | dupondje: do you use compiz? | 21:52 |
| dupondje | nop | 21:52 |
| Chipaca | dupondje: me netiher. So it's probably metacity. | 21:53 |
| sepidev | why most of meerkat's themes work so slowly? is there a bug in GTK+ or theme engines? | 22:36 |
| sepidev | most of the meerkat's themes work slowly.why? how can i repair it? | 22:41 |
| Nwallins | Hi, I tried to use the alternate install disc to get a minimal install | 23:35 |
| Nwallins | instead i got the kitchen sink -- compiz, erlang, python-twisted, etc. | 23:36 |
| Nwallins | i was never asked for a software selection | 23:36 |
| Nwallins | also, I could not set my / to be bootable during manual partitioning | 23:36 |
| head_victim | There is a minimal installation cd usually, not sure if there's one for meerkat, hang on a tick I'll look | 23:37 |
| Nwallins | I would hit [Enter] on Bootable: no, the screen would flash | 23:37 |
| Nwallins | and back to the configure screen, with Bootable still no | 23:37 |
| Nwallins | head_victim: ok, thx | 23:37 |
| head_victim | Nwallins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 23:37 |
| Nwallins | head_victim: nothing for meerkat? | 23:38 |
| head_victim | Nwallins: not on that page, but that's the context, looking for a link to the meerkat one if it exists | 23:38 |
| Nwallins | ok, got it | 23:39 |
| head_victim | Cool, I was still looking | 23:40 |
| Nwallins | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso | 23:40 |
| head_victim | Just be aware you have to download more stuff using that install | 23:40 |
| head_victim | It's basically just the core and then you download the other packages required. | 23:40 |
| Nwallins | so, the alternate installer is supposed to isntall everything? | 23:40 |
| Nwallins | yep, what i want | 23:40 |
| Nwallins | i think exactly what i want is something like debian base system | 23:40 |
| head_victim | Nwallins: for what you want it sounds like the minimal would suit better. | 23:40 |
| head_victim | Nwallins: well that is similar to the netinstall debian download | 23:41 |
| Nwallins | yep | 23:41 |
| head_victim | I haven't used the alternate cd in ages sorry so not exactly sure what it does and doesn't offer. | 23:41 |
| Nwallins | i read you can get a minimal system out of it | 23:42 |
| Nwallins | i want miminal + xorg + lxde | 23:42 |
| Nwallins | but it never asked me for software selection | 23:42 |
| Nwallins | i look over and it's downloading compiz o_0 | 23:42 |
| head_victim | There may have been an "advanced" button somewhere that would ahve given you the option but yeah, not sure as I haven't actually used it for a while :/ | 23:42 |
| Nwallins | or copying from cd or whatever | 23:42 |
| Nwallins | head_victim: fyi, no kernel modules found | 23:53 |
| Nwallins | installer no workie | 23:53 |
| head_victim | hmm | 23:53 |
| Nwallins | i gotta run, i will be back on in 2 hours, or tomorrow | 23:54 |
| Dink | Nwallins, there is a "minimal/base" option for the alternate cd | 23:54 |
| Dink | I think its f4 or f6 forget which and you select minimal | 23:55 |
| Dink | nvm you left | 23:55 |
| head_victim | Ah he did indeed | 23:57 |
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