=== Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [01:10] I created /boot partition as sdc2 but the installer fails to install grub there ? [01:11] Volkodav, what partition type is it? [01:11] tried ext3 and 4 [01:12] then installed to MBR to different drive and then get the error on inserting btrfs and also no /sbin/init in the system [01:15] Hmm tried both alpha 2 and daily alternate CD's [01:27] I just mounted it and home and boot are empty - so the install failed I guess ? [01:50] Hello. When trying to install catalyst draivers from "Hardware drivers" I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/M7CGYfHK Any fixes? [02:49] Say, is it normal for the search box in unity not to do jack-diddly-squat? (yes, I am mixing expressions, I think). [02:49] I type in it, and letters appear. Period. Nothing else happens. === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity === wgrant_ is now known as wgrnat === wgrnat is now known as wgrant [04:25] what are the values in /etc/fstab for btrfs for ssd ? [04:45] looks like ssd is all it needs really [05:10] lol, the libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 in maverick breaks almost every package in my system [05:12] same here [05:12] Cross post from #ubuntu, but hoping someone closer to the development community might have an insight. What's up with the version number, in Lucid right now? "lsb_release -d" in terminal is showing "Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS" currently. But according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule 10.04.1 is suppose to be released on August 12th? [05:23] ZykoticK9: it got bumped in preparation for the point release. one less thing to worry about during release process [05:24] kklimonda, thanks. That's a lot better answer then the "it's lieing" in #ubuntu. Take care. [05:47] That's part of the release process. [05:47] The "release" is just when they say "these packages as they are now, are the release". [05:47] The system builds the release automatically. [05:48] So they have to change the version, then build the "release" on that changed version. [05:48] At least, that's my impression. [06:47] Why isn't aptitude included in 10.10? [06:48] My sloppily researched conclusion had always been that apt-get doesn't handle unused dependencies in some cases when removing packages. [06:48] afaik it is included, just not on the default install [06:48] oh, it's in the repos [06:49] I just thought it odd they would preclude it from the default packages. [06:50] eh, every time I try empathy I end up going back to Pidgin. It looks like this will be no exception... empathy is a very lackluster IRC client [06:50] Empathy is a pathetic, well, anything. [06:50] ^ [06:51] The decision to leave Pidgin was a poor one, in my mind. [06:55] oh hey, removing empathy and empathy-common no longer breaks ubuntu-desktop [06:55] also, i'm going to crash in a moment [07:03] empathy sucks [07:34] Volkodav: that's great - thanks for sharing your insight with us [07:34] anytime [08:25] hey guys. is it me or is java gone from the repos? [08:28] no, it's there [08:37] sun-java was moved to partner repo in lucid [08:44] yep, read that.. was it renamed? [08:45] java6-runtime <- is it that one then, i guess? [09:34] Hello. Are the linux-image and linux-headers packages in sync yet? === napsy is now known as Guest79647 [09:38] The Last update broke kernel versions and catalyst modules can't compile [10:53] Is there a way to turn on power-saving for opensource radeon drivers? [11:28] Why everything (GUI Apps) in ubuntu 10.10 works 30% to 50% slower than the normal situation. Is is a X11 bug? [11:28] Anybody tested the SSD on brtfs with write cache on/off ? I am reading different results [11:30] trying to figure what will be a better option for performance/life expextancy [11:31] I need some advices about maverick [11:32] everything(GUI apps) works slower (30% to 40% )than normal situation. [11:33] I think there would be an X11 bug, but i can find a viable solution [11:34] hey... [11:35] sepidev: I think there would be a GTK bug [11:36] maybe... but how can i get rid of it? [11:36] some gtk themes such as elemetary affect the performance drastically [11:37] I don't know, I think it's a bug with RGBA (transparency) [11:39] I searched into "Configuration Editor" to find a way to disable RGBA mode, but i found nothing. [11:45] sepidev: I have the same problem and "gtkperf" shows poor perfomance [11:47] Crashbit: Have you found a way? [11:48] I don't think there is a simple workaround other than changing a theme [12:15] I'm searching in launchpad for GTK and RGBA bugs, but I don't see any bug that correspond with what happens [12:18] one of bugs that you may be affected by is bug 595845 [12:18] Launchpad bug 595845 in cairo (Ubuntu) "libcairo2 1.9.10 makes Ubuntu 10.10 slow" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595845 [12:19] #ubuntu-bugs would be the best place to ask [12:19] they might know more [12:32] Crashbit, but that change is not in maverick I think [12:35] om26er: I don't know, with clearlooks theme, the perfomance is better than ambiance, but transparencies doesn't work correctly [12:35] Crashbit, these are the bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gtk-csd but the change is not in maverick. they are from alpha2 when gtk had csd support [12:44] there is a gtk update which apparently seem to remove way too many things.. [12:44] anyone else have it? [12:45] i didnt see it but let me check to make sure [12:46] om26er: it's been fixed for a few hours here [12:46] gtk2-engines-pixbuf gir1.0-gtk-2.0 were the only ones by the look of it [12:46] a few other libgtks as well [12:47] Sarvatt: do you have the fixed version [12:48] it was libwmf [12:49] i think, it stopped trying to remove most of gnome on dist-upgrade once that update came along [12:50] well an hour ago i did dist-upgrade and it didnt want to remove anything, but added a few packages [12:52] yeah last night up until a few hours ago it was trying to remove most of gnome, guessing om26er's mirror is just lagging [12:52] * om26er switches the mirror [12:52] gb is one of the best to use [12:52] i use it and i get updates when i should :) [12:57] what is that mirror ? mine still wants to remove [13:00] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted sorry i forgot to add the gb when i removed us [13:00] Volkodav: i recommend using gb depending on wher eyou are [13:01] US [13:01] Volkodav: than either use gb.archive (just adding the gb and the . [13:01] or just remove us. [13:02] * Volkodav fixing [13:02] me too :) [13:06] it seems partner repo doesnt like gb [13:06] never had issues with it before [13:06] I'll try some UK [13:07] gb is in UK (at lleast i am pretty sure [13:07] ) [13:07] I don't see on the list though [13:08] * gnomefreak has a hard time remebering what countries are part of UK [13:08] !mirrors [13:08] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Lucid, and help keeping the servers' load low! [13:08] Volkodav: try one of there on the link(s) [13:09] damn smart got fast [13:09] Channels have 30538 new packages. [13:09] :) [13:10] Computing transaction... [13:10] No interesting upgrades available. :) [13:11] * gnomefreak uses it due to the things it says [13:12] !mirrorstatus | also [13:12] also: A list of official repository mirrors and their statuses can be found at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors [13:12] * gnomefreak not sure how to word this [13:14] mvo: any chance smartpm will get an overhauled gui (i dont like the fact that it gives you the folders with the packages in side.) but maybe that is just me :( [13:14] * gnomefreak tries to stick to terminal rather than gui [13:16] ok we should really rename !mirros or alias it [13:17] gnomefreak: go for it [13:17] Pici: im thinking [13:17] * gnomefreak goes for smoke to think [13:20] Utah server is up to date [13:23] all good [13:36] hmm can't get vlc smplayer or xine-ui installed [13:37] borked packages and dependencies [13:42] xine has depends issues [13:42] has for a few days now [13:44] same as the other two [13:49] xine just worked for me [13:49] And I installed vlc yesterday or the day before? [13:50] it does work now [13:50] can not get any of them installed for 2 days now - just checked again [13:50] maybe it is on x86_64 [13:50] yep me niether but i just installed xine-ui [13:50] Hmm odd, the mirror I use is saying up to date on launchpad as well so it's not lagging behind [13:51] I am on 64 bit [13:51] xine-ui: [13:51] Depends: libxine1 but it is not going to be installed [13:51] Depends: vlc-nox but it is not going to be installed [13:51] Recommends: vlc-plugin-pulse but it is not going to be installed [13:52] libxine1 is already the newest version. [13:52] libxine1 set to manually installed. [13:52] Yeah both are here as well. [13:53] so gnomefreak are you on 64 as well? Volkodav you are on 32? [13:54] yeah vlc is still broken [13:54] 64 [13:54] im on 32 [13:54] Odd, I have both installed on 64, going to set up a 32 install as well to confirm [13:55] http://pastie.org/1065358 [13:55] anyone know what format cds use? [13:55] that's what it offers [13:55] gnomefreak: iso9660 [13:55] music cd? Pici [13:56] uh [13:57] Volkodav: yeah using apt-get will cause depends issue. aptitude tends to get into trouble sometimes [13:59] aptitude does as you tell it to no matter what (you can also choose from different ways to do it) [14:00] smartpm does the same thing sometimes [14:00] yeah [14:00] coffee run [14:01] Depends: libmpcdec3 which is a virtual package - that's a show stopper [14:04] Volkodav: what app? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:04] xine-ui [14:05] needs a rebuild then [14:05] maverick has libmpcdec6 [14:05] well I'll wait then === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak [14:20] anyone else notice F-spot crashing? [14:20] I use mirage [14:20] light and fast [14:21] i want f-spot screen saver so i kind of need it [14:49] I can confirm the fault with vlc on 32bit looking for vlc-plugin-pulse, working fine on 64 [14:49] hmm [14:49] xine-ui worked fine though [14:50] I'm new to this alpha stuff should we wait a day or so to see if it's going to be built or file a bug? [14:52] nah - wait it'll get fixed [14:52] No worries. === napsy is now known as Guest13130 === 14WAAZ29V is now known as foxbuntu [16:35] does anyone know of a good news reader [16:36] oops sorry wrong forum [16:39] sinurge: I like liferea [16:52] thanks charlie-tca but would like something from the terminal [16:56] newsbeuter was good for terminal [16:56] even allows podcasts === napsy is now known as Guest38932 === Guest38932 is now known as napsy === Daekdroom is now known as Guest49534 [18:13] Wow [18:14] just updated to Maverick on my netbook, the Unity UI looks really slick, kudos for that [18:14] but how do I add an application icon to the left navigation bar? [18:20] hey guys, is there a way to explore the maverick packages without installing maverick? [18:21] read about them [18:21] look at screenshots [18:21] :-D [18:21] Volkodav: I mean where, how [18:22] packages.ubuntu.com is still down... [18:22] http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha2 [18:22] ah, I see what you are saying [18:27] ChogyDan: you could query the bot '/msg ubottu info maverick' [18:27] yofel what's up [18:28] did you bench your SSD on brtfs with/without cache write [18:28] I use rmadison myself. [18:29] I have a strange feeling close to almost sure that ext4 tuned up for ssd in 10.4 is snappier then 10.10 with brtfs on the same drive [18:30] yofel: thanks [18:30] at least boot almost twice faster [18:32] Volkodav: nope, my ssd is still using ext4, I don't really have the time to reinstall currently ./ [18:32] and pretty much everyone seems to say that btrfs is slow, especially with dpkg [18:32] I did side by side install on the same drive - maverick has twice larger partiton and still feels slower:-( [18:33] I guess it's not so bad with an ssd, but still.. [18:33] it really is [18:33] I can really tell the difference between 10.4 on ext4 [19:22] Somebody else having the problem that Terminal is sometimes getting closed when trying to close another program ? [19:22] I close for example firefox who is on top [19:22] bug instead of firefox closing, terminal is closing [19:29] dupondje: yes [19:30] dupondje: you mean closing from the taskbar or by the window close button? [19:30] close button [19:31] doesn't happen here (KDE) [19:31] not just with the terminal, however; a couple of times the window that is not the topmost one of a stack of maximized windows closes instead of the topmostest one [19:31] once, the terminal, but another time it was chromium [19:31] the terminal asked because I had several tabs open, fortunately [19:32] doesn't happen for me, using gnome [19:32] I have 50 packages since yesterday to update though :( [19:39] ok, updated, rebooted, still can't make that issue happen [19:40] Never happened here. [20:23] hello please I want to participate to ubuntu ... where do I start.. I want to be a developer with python please any one guide me the way thnx [20:25] anyone noticed faster boots in this last few days? [20:27] !contribute | dupondje [20:27] dupondje: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate [20:27] !contribute | dr3mro [20:27] dr3mro: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate [20:27] sry dupondje [20:30] BUGabundo, nope, mine is always fast :) [20:31] * BUGabundo steals patdk-wk ultra fast SSDs [20:31] my laptop :) [20:31] but I was meaning my esxi :) === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [20:34] !packaging | dr3mro [20:34] dr3mro: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports [20:37] http://bootcharts.f.bugabundo.net/ [20:37] here are my boot charts [20:37] they really show faster boots [21:49] yofel: windows close button [21:49] Chipaca: you know if there is some bug about it ? [21:49] dupondje: no. Until you asked, I thought it was just me or something :) [21:51] seems not :P [21:51] but I have no idea where to file a bug ... [21:52] what package .. [21:52] dupondje: do you use compiz? [21:52] nop [21:53] dupondje: me netiher. So it's probably metacity. [22:36] why most of meerkat's themes work so slowly? is there a bug in GTK+ or theme engines? [22:41] most of the meerkat's themes work slowly.why? how can i repair it? [23:35] Hi, I tried to use the alternate install disc to get a minimal install [23:36] instead i got the kitchen sink -- compiz, erlang, python-twisted, etc. [23:36] i was never asked for a software selection [23:36] also, I could not set my / to be bootable during manual partitioning [23:37] There is a minimal installation cd usually, not sure if there's one for meerkat, hang on a tick I'll look [23:37] I would hit [Enter] on Bootable: no, the screen would flash [23:37] and back to the configure screen, with Bootable still no [23:37] head_victim: ok, thx [23:37] Nwallins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [23:38] head_victim: nothing for meerkat? [23:38] Nwallins: not on that page, but that's the context, looking for a link to the meerkat one if it exists [23:39] ok, got it [23:40] Cool, I was still looking [23:40] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso [23:40] Just be aware you have to download more stuff using that install [23:40] It's basically just the core and then you download the other packages required. [23:40] so, the alternate installer is supposed to isntall everything? [23:40] yep, what i want [23:40] i think exactly what i want is something like debian base system [23:40] Nwallins: for what you want it sounds like the minimal would suit better. [23:41] Nwallins: well that is similar to the netinstall debian download [23:41] yep [23:41] I haven't used the alternate cd in ages sorry so not exactly sure what it does and doesn't offer. [23:42] i read you can get a minimal system out of it [23:42] i want miminal + xorg + lxde [23:42] but it never asked me for software selection [23:42] i look over and it's downloading compiz o_0 [23:42] There may have been an "advanced" button somewhere that would ahve given you the option but yeah, not sure as I haven't actually used it for a while :/ [23:42] or copying from cd or whatever [23:53] head_victim: fyi, no kernel modules found [23:53] installer no workie [23:53] hmm [23:54] i gotta run, i will be back on in 2 hours, or tomorrow [23:54] Nwallins, there is a "minimal/base" option for the alternate cd [23:55] I think its f4 or f6 forget which and you select minimal [23:55] nvm you left [23:57] Ah he did indeed