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TheMusoAnybody else get only a small amount of bugmail in the last 12 hours or so? Or did I really receive no audio bugmail overnight? :)00:07
SarvattTheMuso: i got about 50 or so bug mails from ubuntu-x-swat in the past 12 hours, it does seem quiet :)01:34
micahgTheMuso: ah, there was some LP read only time today, maybe that affected it01:35
TheMusoSarvatt: hrm ok01:35
TheMusomicahg: Likely yes.01:35
pittiGood morning06:42
* pitti merges libwmf to get desktop installable again07:21
baptistemmhi there07:31
and471mvo, mornin08:09
mvohey and471!08:09
and471mvo, I have fixed the gdebi papercut and it should be ready for merging https://code.launchpad.net/~and471/gdebi/fix-37696608:10
mvoand471: a quick question  lp:~and471/software-center/login-and-reviews-frontend <- should I merge this one ? or merge but exclude the review dialog bits?08:10
mvoand471: nice, I have a look08:10
and471mvo, gimme a sec08:10
mvoand471: gdebi> looks good! many thanks08:12
and471mvo, the method I use to write the config file is just as dirty as synaptic :D08:12
mvoand471: yeah, not worse at least ;)08:12
mvoand471: I have a look at the python-apt one (i.e. if I can add bindings to "Dump")08:12
and471mvo, ok, it should be easy enough to drop that in08:13
and471mvo, ok with lp:~and471/software-center/login-and-reviews-frontend08:13
and471mvo, IIRC the login dialog works and meets the spec08:14
mvoand471: login-and-review> ok, cool08:14
and471mvo, the review dialog is not yet finished08:14
and471however when you click the review button in the appdetailsviewgtk, it calls it up08:14
and471(the login dialog)08:14
and471so I suppose you could merge all as the login would appear, but not the review dialog as it is not hooked up to the login dialog yet08:15
mvoand471: ok, should I just not include those bits in the merge?08:15
mvoI guess the later08:15
and471mvo, having the review dialog stuff in there wouldn't impact it, it just wouldn't ever be run08:16
mvoand471: ok, if it does not break anything that should be fine :)08:16
and471mvo, hehe don't blame me if it does :D08:17
mvoand471: python-apt has a dump() method now, but it will not to nice indention08:30
and471ah ok :)08:30
and471mvo, can you drop that in, in the merge?08:31
didrockshey pitti08:47
didrockspitti: not only UNR, the desktop failed yesterday too, not matter. I took previous image first :)08:47
pittididrocks: I retried the librsvg build and merged libwmf, so it should be better now09:12
pittiseems every day there's something else which breaks it09:12
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didrockspitti: yeah, unfortunately :( Well, too late for the unity image, but good for A3 ;) thanks!09:14
pittididrocks: you can still use persistency and dist-upgrade09:15
pittididrocks: does it work reasonably now?09:15
didrockspitti: that's what I've done in fact, taking Monday's image and dist-upgrade09:15
didrocksit works well, yes :)09:15
and471see ya09:19
ogra_pitti, gwibber seems broken too09:38
ogra_  gwibber: Depends: python-pysqlite2 but it is not installable09:39
ogra_  gwibber-service: Depends: python-pysqlite2 but it is not installable09:39
pittiugh, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/maverick_probs.html is quite horrible09:39
pittisomething for kenvandine to fix, as it seems09:39
pittipython comes with a current sqlite3 module09:40
ogra_  * debian/control09:40
ogra_    - Added a Depends for python-pysqlite209:40
ogra_from the changelog :)09:40
pittikenvandine: ^ don't :)09:40
pittiimport sqlite3 as dbapi209:41
pittiis all you should ever need in python09:41
* ogra_ wonders why linux vs linux-meta is out of sync on arm09:43
ogra_argh !09:46
ogra_pitti, do you have power to promote a kernel from universe to main ? http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/universe/l/linux/09:47
* ogra_ doesnt get why that happens from time to time09:47
pittiNEWing error, I assume09:47
pittisomeone forgot to override it to main09:47
ogra_every tenth kernel upload or so09:47
ogra_ah, its all manual ?09:48
ogra_i thought there were some automatisms in place09:48
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pittilet me finish my current NBS slaughtery09:48
tkamppeterI have a question about bug 610982. seb126 marked it "Invalid" without giving a comment. What is wrong with it?09:50
ubot2Launchpad bug 610982 in gconf (Ubuntu) "Problems when running gconf-based applications on a remote desktop (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61098209:50
pittino idea09:52
pittimight have been a glitich09:52
pittiogra: moved to main09:52
ograthanks a lot09:52
tkamppeterpitti, so should I simply move it back to "New"?09:52
pittitkamppeter: please do09:52
tkamppeterpitti, or add tasks for Thunderbird and OOo hoping that the maintainers of these apps would put more effort into it?09:53
tkamppeterpitti, set back to "New".09:54
pittitkamppeter: it doesn't look liek a gconf problem, though, much rather a d-bus session bus one09:54
tkamppeterpitti, is seb128 on the GUADEC currently?09:54
ograwe have that prob in ltsp since years09:54
pittitkamppeter: yes09:54
pittisomething needs to launch a session d-bus when you log in remotely09:54
ograits the problem that dbus cant connect to your local machine over the network09:54
tkamppeterpitti, which package should I add then?09:55
ograthere should be a session dbus but its not connected to the right instance09:55
pittitkamppeter: d-bus, but I'm sure there's an existing bug for it already09:56
tkamppeterpitti, "dbus" added.09:57
tkamppeterpitti, ogra, the app should connect to the GConf on the remote box, then it would not need to reach over the network. And it should fall back to defaults in case it does not find any GConf (for example if remote box is headless app server).09:59
ograconnecting to an already running gconfd remotely has likely an xauth problem you need to solve first10:00
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ograas a workaround you could just add a wrapper script that fires up a gconfd instance and a session dbus inside your ssh session10:01
tkamppeterogra, can I somehow reset the XAUth for this connection? Note that it works partially, I can open X applications which do not use GConf.10:04
ograi dont know, i havent touched xauth for two years and a lot changed10:04
rickspencer3RAOF, are you still around at all?10:06
tkamppeterogra, thanks for the hints. I typed10:06
tkamppeter/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 &10:06
tkamppeterin my SSH session and afterwards started "ooffice" out of it and it came up without any problems.\10:07
tkamppeterAlso the already running thunderbird stopped freezing (so it caught up the gconfd).10:08
ograthough be careful if you run a session on the machine that has a gconfd running too, they access the same db10:08
ogra(if its the same user)10:08
tkamppeterogra, now the problem is how to get it automatically working, as before Maverick it worked.10:09
tkamppeterogra, this will be the subject of the bug now.10:10
ograi dont think there is a way apart from a wrapper script10:10
tkamppeterogra, did Thunderbird and OOo change so that they require GConf now (and so they worked correctly before Maverick as that time they did not need GConf)?10:11
ograi think they did require gconf before10:11
tkamppeterogra, but why did they work then before?10:13
ograheh, i dont know :)10:13
ograsurely something has changed if it worked before10:13
ograbut i wouldnt think the apps did in that respect10:14
ogragconf, dbus or xauth defaults changed i guess10:14
tkamppeterogra, which package provides the xauth defaults?10:17
ograi think thats xauth10:17
tkamppeterogra, added it10:18
RAOFrickspencer3: Yeah, ish10:42
tkamppeterogra, thanks, I have added your suggestion to the bug report.10:43
rickspencer3RAOF, nm10:43
rickspencer3I was interested in working on my web cam widget10:44
rickspencer3but it can wait until you're properly at work10:44
RAOFAh, ok.10:44
RAOFI should point you at the gstreamer bug report about that, at least.  There's useful info there.10:44
rickspencer3thanks RAOF10:46
RAOFhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599885 is the relevant bug, which suggests calling gdk_window_ensure_native in the realized callback for your window.10:48
ubot2Gnome bug 599885 in gst-plugins-gl "[gtk examples] unstable behaviour with recent gtk (post csw merge)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]10:48
* RAOF returns to his regularly scheduled thoughless daze.10:51
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seb128pitti, could you review the gnome-keyring sru I uploaded?11:35
seb128it should fix gnome-keyring breaking in some locales when running a python-gnomekeyring software11:35
loolHmm I get:11:37
lool[540752.124868] type=1400 audit(1280398892.803:86):  operation="file_mmap" pid=32403 parent=1 profile="/usr/bin/evince" name="/usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/svg_loader.so" pid=32403 comm="evince" requested_mask="m" denied_mask="m" fsuid=1000 ouid=011:37
looland some icons are broken11:37
loolThis looks like our apparmor profiles need an update11:38
lool/etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/evince mentions /usr/share, but not /usr/lib11:39
seb128hum, feel free to do the changes, not sure we will manage to do it from GUADEC11:39
loolI looked, it seemed I would be able to do them but I don't trust myself to touch the apparmor profile11:40
seb128can you cc jdstrand on the bug?11:40
seb128he usually do those tweaks11:41
loolYup, saw him in the changelog11:41
pittiseb128: we have an SRU freeze until after 10.04.1, unless it's a really urgent one11:46
seb128pitti, it's breaking ubuntuone login on locales with non ascii chars in "default"11:47
seb128ie french11:47
seb128ie if that's the first keyring client you run the default keyring creation break and ubuntuone client crashes11:48
loolLP #61124811:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 611248 in evince (Ubuntu) "Broken icons in top bar (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61124811:48
seb128we got bad press due that issue11:48
seb128lunch time, got to go11:50
didrockspitti: seb128 will read the backlog on my computer11:59
pittididrocks: well, as I said, we are currently SRU-frozen11:59
asachmm. latest gtk blasts my console with this:11:59
asac(meloc:17190): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory11:59
asacis that a known bug or did i hack a bug in my app ;)?12:00
* asac wonders if last upgrade maybe failed in the middle and checks12:00
didrocksasac: seb128 says it's likely due to the gdkpixbuf split12:01
pittithere was some churn this morning about that indeed12:01
asacnot so great i mean12:02
asacseems that the pixbuf rendering is completely broken now (e.g. my gps map doesnt paint at all anymore ;))12:02
* asac goes and checks if a fix is already building12:02
asacah ... depenency problems prevented gtk stuff to configure12:03
asaclets see if install -f cures it12:03
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pittididrocks/seb128: do you think this can be tested very fast? we are still waiting on a new mysql, which will hopefully land today13:00
kenvandinepitti, oh... doh!13:16
* kenvandine fixes13:16
pittihey kenvandine, good morning13:20
pittikenvandine: thanks13:20
pittikenvandine: oh, so it already used the sqlite3 module? that was easy then :)13:36
kenvandinepitti, yeah... my mistake :)13:36
seb128pitti, yes, it's easy to test14:00
seb128pitti, just start a guest session in french and run a pythong-gnomekeyring software14:00
seb128asac, did you fix your pixbuf issue?14:01
pittiseb128: ok, looking14:01
pittiseb128: so, no gnome 3.0 this time after all, eh?14:01
asacseb128: i need to force upgrade14:01
asacseb128: and then rebuild my project14:01
asac(reconfigure + make)14:01
asaci dont think thats the goal ;)14:01
asac... but yes, i am not blocked14:01
seb128asac, why force upgrade? what conflicts do you get?14:01
seb128pitti, you can run /usr/share/doc/python-gnomekeyring/examples/keyring.py14:02
seb128to test14:02
asacseb128: i dont know anymore... my upgrade apparently aborted and dist-upgrade lead to this afterwards:14:02
asacYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.14:02
asacThe following packages have unmet dependencies: libgtk2.0-dev: Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev (>= 2.21.0) but it is not installed librsvg2-dev: Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev (>= 2.21.6) but it is not installed14:02
asacE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.14:02
asac-f fixed that14:02
seb128did you have any file conflict in the log before?14:03
asacseb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470693/14:04
asacthat caused:14:04
asac(gtk-update-icon-cache:16320): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory14:05
asacErrors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev_2.21.6-2ubuntu1_i386.deb14:05
asacLog ended: 2010-07-29  12:35:2914:05
asacwhich made this configuring fail14:05
seb128hum, k, weird14:05
asacseb128: do you need more info?14:09
asaci think its a migratio nissue ... maybe you moved something that is missing during configure?14:09
seb128asac, robert_ancell did the update and we are at GUADEC this week14:09
asacalso the fact that my app previosly built against the old gtk failed then doesnt feel right14:09
seb128asac, I will ping you next week if I need infos14:09
asace.g. why do i need to reconfigure/rebuild.14:09
seb128well upgrade worked fine there14:09
seb128you should not need to, there is a trigger which should update that cache14:10
asacok. i think it was not "running", but just building14:10
asacso thats fine i guess14:10
seb128I'm wondering if that's another case of "the directory the triggers watch was not there before upgrade so the trigger doesn't work"14:10
asace.g. reconfigure was needed to find the right files during build etc.14:10
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micahgseb128: good call on GNOME 3:)14:22
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seb128mvo, hey14:57
seb128asac, is your upgrade log somewhere online?14:57
seb128asac, /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0.postinst does create this cache14:57
seb128I'm not sure how that broke14:58
mvohey seb12814:58
seb128mvo, how are you today?14:58
mvoseb128: good, thanks. better than yesterday :)15:01
mvoseb128: how are you? how is guadec?15:01
seb128mvo, got a cold15:03
seb128other I'm fine15:03
seb128GUADEC is nice15:03
seb128nice to talk to people there15:03
seb128the presentations are not so interesting though15:04
mvoseb128: hope you get well soon15:05
mvoseb128: I can imagine its great to talk to all the people face-to-faceagain :)15:06
cassidyseb128, that's because you didn't saw my presentation yet :p15:09
seb128cassidy, I guess ;-)15:10
seb128asac, do you use the ubuntu-desktop ppa?15:10
asacseb128: i hope not15:19
seb128asac, ok, can you put your upgrade log online?15:19
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and471mvo, thanks for the merge16:08
mvoand471: hi! cheers, not in trunk yet, but not much missing :)16:08
and471mvo, thats fine :)16:08
mvoand471: the state transitions seems to be not fully caputred yet, but I got distracted by other work16:09
mvoit looks very nice16:09
and471mvo, are we talking about gdebi or SC?16:09
and471mvo, just got your email, I was thanking for the merge of gdebi :)16:11
and471mvo, yeah the login stuff is not fully completed yet, hopefully I should be able to do some more work on it16:11
mvoand471: oh, gdebi - yeah, thanks for this too :)16:11
and471mvo, so gdebi is in trunk, but not SC?16:12
mvoand471: yeah, see mail. sc has some small issues, probably just a matter of ~30min of debugging and tweaking16:12
and471mvo, yeah, the SC thing is fine, I stopped work on it a while back so I could not really remember whether it was fully implemented16:13
and471mvo, you have any experience with gstreamer?17:28
and471jono, or could you help out? http://pastebin.ca/191107317:28
and471this doesn't seem to work, and yet the cli pipeline works fine17:29
jonoand471, what are you doing? recording video and audio?17:32
and471jono, yup17:32
jonoand471, I recommend you ask in #gstreamer - I haven't hacked with gst for quite a while17:32
and471jono, ok, I asked in there but maybe I should wait a bit longer17:32
jonoand471, :)17:34
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Jefrohi folks - anyone going to LinuxCon with Ubuntu 10.04 CDs?  I'm giving a desktop linux presentation and would love to have a few CDs from each distro on the table.21:50
tatertotI was wondering if anyone has any relevant information on what career is looking more promising.  I am trying to decide between Network Admin. and Database Admin.  I need to lock it down before I start selecting classes for Summer semester.  Any advice?21:57
desrtfree software hacker is looking pretty good21:59
desrti recommend that one :)21:59
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