[02:47] <DanaG> argh, how do you report bugs in packages on ubuntu-mozilla-daily?
[02:47] <DanaG> Apport refuses to make reports.
[02:48] <micahg> DanaG: sorry, I haven't fixed the hook yet
[02:48] <micahg> DanaG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-ppa-bugs/+filebug
[02:49]  * micahg will add to /topic
[02:50] <DanaG> I switched to direct mozilla builds of 3.1, because last time I checked, the last 3.1 build was last year.
[02:50] <micahg> Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: |  Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.8 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 Coming Soon to Maverick/PPA | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA coming Mid August | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW | Next Meeting: TBD
[02:50] <micahg> DanaG: it'll be updated this weekend
[02:50] <DanaG> Thanks.
[02:50] <DanaG> Will that include lightning and gdata-provider?
[02:50] <micahg> DanaG: I fixed it, I just haven't committed the fixes
[02:50] <micahg> DanaG: no, that's another project :0
[02:51] <micahg> DanaG: I'll get to lightning hopefully before beta 1
[02:51]  * DanaG curses Mozilla for not releasing 64-bit builds.
[02:51] <micahg> DanaG: there should be a contrib build for it
[02:51] <DanaG> Mozilla certainly doesn't help the case of needing 64-bit Flash, when they don't build 64-bit themselves.
[02:51] <micahg> DanaG: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/releases/1.0b2/contrib/linux-x86_64/
[02:51] <DanaG> Or rather, for Windows, I mean.  Same for Silverlight.
[02:52] <DanaG> For now, I'm using 32-bit Mozilla builds in /opt/thunderbird.
[02:52] <micahg> DanaG: they will start providing 64 bit builds soon
[02:53] <DanaG> Sweet.
[02:53] <micahg> DanaG: I hope once we get the firefox-all-in-one and thunderbird trunk builds going, we'll be able to stay ahead of the curve in providing builds when released even betas :)
[03:04] <DanaG> Great, I did "bt full" on Firefox crash, and it's up to 16 thousand lines.
[03:04] <DanaG> 20 thousand now.
[03:04] <micahg> DanaG: that's insane
[03:04] <DanaG> Must be a corrupt stack, or something.
[03:05] <DanaG> It's looping through the same function zillions of times.
[03:05] <micahg> DanaG: maybe try in a clean profile?
[03:05] <micahg> oh, maybe that's the bug then
[03:06] <DanaG> Say, will bt full have my passwords?
[03:06] <DanaG> Eh, too late now:
[03:06] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/HCJMheT3
[03:06] <DanaG> SIGKILL'd it at 20 lines.
[03:06] <micahg> DanaG: idk, you can mark private in the bug I was going to say
[03:07] <micahg> DanaG: it can
[03:07] <DanaG> er, maybe that was too early.
[03:07] <DanaG> Anyway, I'm not seeing my password there.
[03:08] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/G37hUJYD
[03:08] <DanaG> that's 612 lines in program... far more in the pastebin.
[03:10] <DanaG> And it only started doing that after I sigkilled Firefox when it hung when trying to auto-password.
[03:10] <DanaG> In fact, any text area seems to trigger it.
[03:10] <DanaG> No, wait...
[03:11] <DanaG> Maybe only passworded ones do.
[03:14] <micahg> DanaG: looks like bug 568460 regressed
[03:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 568460 in magentoerpconnect "first and last name twice in OpenERP's partner (affects: 1) (heat: 2)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/568460
[03:14] <micahg> oops mozilla 568460
[03:14] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 568460 in HTML: Parser "[HTML5] Crash [@ SelectorMatches ]" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=568460
[03:14] <micahg> but it's a different cause
[03:19] <DanaG> Argh, stupid non-clickable Flash.
[03:20] <micahg> DanaG: I'll try to patch nspluginwrapper soon
[03:20]  * micahg has too many things that need to be done :)
[03:20]  * micahg will be back soon
[10:14] <mahfouz> are you guys also having crashes with the chromium daily build?
[10:19] <mahfouz> e,g, when I change the wireless connection
[11:23] <asac> chrisccoulson: how is the symbol sync going?
[11:24] <chrisccoulson> asac - my account is created, but i can't sign in yet, so I'm trying to get that sorted
[11:24] <chrisccoulson> in the meantime, I'm currently working on a bot to automate uploading the symbols
[11:28] <chrisccoulson> oh, gwibber is not using desktopcouch anymore?
[11:29] <chrisccoulson> probably a good thing, seeing as it always just crashes anyway ;)
[11:29]  * asac goes upgrade gwibber
[11:29] <chrisccoulson> i haven't upgraded yet, i just had a quick scan down maverick-changes
[11:30] <chrisccoulson> but i might upgrade in a minute
[11:32] <asac> hmm no upgrade for me ;)
[11:32] <asac> guess its not done building/publishing
[11:51] <chrisccoulson> asac - heh, and for once, it's not my fault that it's taking ages to build ;)
[11:51] <asac> lol
[12:01] <fta> who should i ping for an answer?? (/wrt bug 610570)
[12:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 610570 in python-pysnmp4 (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "python deprecation warnings for md5 and sha (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610570
[12:02] <fta> ..as CCing the sru team didn't do any good
[12:20] <asac> chrisccoulson: did you ever get the baidu engine thing deployed?
[12:20] <chrisccoulson> asac - yeah, it's done
[12:21] <asac> cool
[12:21] <asac> together with new ubufox it actually might work
[12:21] <asac> (like what you SRUed)
[12:21] <asac> the homepage that is
[12:21] <asac> ok /me out to get cigarettes and some lunch
[13:24] <gnomefreak> !iso
[13:24] <ubot2> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[13:24] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[13:25] <gnomefreak> !mirror
[13:25] <ubot2> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Karmic, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[13:26] <gnomefreak> !mirrorstaqtus
[13:26] <ubot2> Factoid 'mirrorstaqtus' not found
[13:26] <gnomefreak> !mirrorstatus
[13:26] <ubot2> A list of official repository mirrors and their statuses can be found at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[13:26] <gnomefreak> dont mind me im thinking
[13:36] <gnomefreak> !isodownload
[13:36] <ubot2> Factoid 'isodownload' not found
[13:36] <gnomefreak> good
[14:21] <micahg> fta: you have to upload to -proposed re bug 610570
[14:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 610570 in python-pysnmp4 (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "python deprecation warnings for md5 and sha (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610570
[14:21] <micahg> fta: they review in queue now
[14:23]  * eagles0513875 waves to micahg
[14:24] <gnomefreak> hi micahg
[14:27] <micahg> hi eagles0513875 gnomefreak
[14:28] <gnomefreak> be back in a few, i need to release some frustration real fast
[14:38]  * gnomefreak doesnt want to go to bank
[15:30]  * chrisccoulson is starting to find python bareable
[15:36] <fta> me too, but also find it slow
[15:36] <fta> i still have a hard time with line splitting
[15:36] <micahg> fta: did you see my message above?
[15:37] <fta> micahg, yep, thanks
[21:47] <fta> 3 builders per arch, that's a joke, right?
[21:48] <micahg> fta: they probably got hijacked for an internal purpose for  a little bit, don't worry about i386 as bigjools scored down the python rebuild
[21:50] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I just realized that we might end up with out of date firefox builds on teh alpha 3 CD if the gcc issue isn't fixed by Tuesday
[21:50] <fta> there's 2d+ queue
[21:50] <micahg> fta: yeah, most of that is the python revuild
[21:50] <micahg> *rebuild
[21:51] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i wouldn't worry about it too much, they will be up to date on i386 and amd64. we can't do much until the arm guys figure out what's wrong ;)
[21:52] <micahg> chrisccoulson: it seems like they did figure it out, I just hope they can get a fix in by Tuesday :)
[21:53] <micahg> chrisccoulson: BTW, do you know of an easy fix for this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52692638/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.gnome-chemistry-utils_0.12.1-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[21:53] <micahg> seems like the .la files were dropped in the latest gtk+2.0 upload
[21:55] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i've seen similar errors. i'll have a look at it if i get a chance, but i really want to get the bot to push our crash symbols to mozilla working first
[21:55] <micahg> chrisccoulson: that's fine, I can dig into this, just wondering if you knew offhand a fix
[21:57] <micahg> chrisccoulson: in fact, assuming it builds on no arches properly, I'll just leave it until I get some other stuff updated (TB 3.1, weave), the old release works ok
[21:57] <micahg> the only reason I uploaded it is that I tested before with GTK 2.21.2 which worked, 2.21.5 broke
[21:58] <chrisccoulson> cool. how is TB3.1 coming along?
[21:59] <micahg> chrisccoulson: it builds fine now, I just need to commit the appropriate patches and push to daily
[21:59] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I plan on uploading to maverick after alpha 3 is released
[21:59] <chrisccoulson> sounds good :)
[22:00] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do we want to keep building 3.0 dailies after 3.1 is in maverick?
[22:00] <chrisccoulson> we probably want to keep them if we are still supporting 3.0 on lucid
[22:01] <chrisccoulson> but if we plan on migrating lucid to 3.1 soon, then there's not much point in supporting 3.0 on the dailies
[22:01] <micahg> chrisccoulson: also, I wanted to ask you about renaming the various daily builds to firefox, firefox-next, firefox-trunk, and the same with thunderbird, thunderbird, thunderbird-next, thunderbird-trunk, and maybe a -old if necessary
[22:02] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, looks like they want to push the major update after 3.1.2 is released, so early september
[22:02] <chrisccoulson> as opposed to having the version numbers in the package names?
[22:02] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yeah, then we don't have to migrate the branches every version bump
[22:03] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that makes sense. i was thinking about the same thing the other day, although i arrived at a slightly different solution
[22:03] <micahg> chrisccoulson: we just merge teh changes to the next branch down when it's ready
[22:03] <chrisccoulson> (to auto-generate the versioned packaging files at build time from debian/rules, but your way might make more sense)
[22:03] <micahg> chrisccoulson: then we can build the beta PPA from the -next branch and record what's released for it
[22:04] <micahg> .head will be released to archive
[22:04] <micahg> and -trunk would never get released except to daily PPA
[22:04] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it seems like a good idea
[22:04] <micahg> right now -next and -trunk are the same, they'll branch around 4.0 beta 5
[22:05] <chrisccoulson> so, -trunk will always be based on mozilla-central?
[22:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: but that's next weekend :)
[22:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yes
[22:05] <chrisccoulson> and -next will be based on mozilla-2.0?
[22:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, whatever is appropriate at the time
[22:05] <chrisccoulson> that seems like a sensible idea
[22:05] <micahg> ATM, that's m-central as well
[22:06] <micahg> BTW, it hit me a couple days ago, the yasm issue might have to do with the performance increase that was noticed on Fedora a few months ago
[22:06] <chrisccoulson> it would be nice to arrive at a point where the packaging is fairly common across all of our supported branches
[22:07] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yeah, we can't try to clean that up next cycle :)
[22:08]  * micahg just wants to make sure we get to everything on the list for this cycle, this cycle :)
[22:08] <micahg> chrisccoulson: if there's any time left, I'll start the port to xul20 in teh transition PPA
[22:09] <chrisccoulson> yeah, we'll be starting that when things settle down in maverick anyway :)
[22:09] <micahg> I'd like to FF4/xul20 uploaded to N right after it opends
[22:09] <chrisccoulson> i was thinking about starting a wiki page with porting guidelines
[22:09] <micahg> so we have the whole cycle to fix issues
[22:09] <micahg> chrisccoulson: +1 :), I could use a few pointers :)
[22:10] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'm finding issues with an extension i wrote at the sprint last week ;)
[22:10] <chrisccoulson> trying to get it to work in FF4.0 is a pain
[22:10] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, the way extensions worked was changed in 4.0
[22:11] <chrisccoulson> yeah, the component registration has changed, which i've got working
[22:11] <chrisccoulson> but other interfaces have gone away too
[22:11] <chrisccoulson> like nsIExtensionManager, which bindwood relies on
[22:11] <micahg> I still don't understand how extensions work per se, I guess I"ll get into that eventually
[22:11] <micahg> chrisccoulson: that's why they jumped to xul20
[22:12] <chrisccoulson> we're going to have a lot of fun ;)
[22:12] <micahg> to say NOTICE: everything will break :)
[22:12] <chrisccoulson> lol
[23:20] <micahg> chrisccoulson: sparc is so broken, gnome-chemistry-utils built on it :)
[23:26] <chrisccoulson> micahg - heh, nice ;)