| === Wandrewvious is now known as WALoeIII | ||
| MagicFab | These are good news: http://en.community.dell.com/dell-blogs/enterprise/b/tech-center/archive/2010/07/27/dell-openmanage-6-3-for-ubuntu.aspx | 00:16 |
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| arrrghhh | anyone use rtorrent here? i'm having issues with the watch directory feature & pausing/temporarily stopping torrents... | 00:37 |
| smoser | mathiaz, actually most of that is in uec-run-instances, which SpamapS worked on recently. it definitely needs some work, but it is there. | 00:45 |
| smoser | its also, i tihnk, sort of part of mr.awsome | 00:45 |
| raubvogel | Trying to learn how to create a private package repository: which directories does reprepro needs and what do they do (my google-fu has only found how-tos, but not whys) | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | *cough* | 01:15 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #611101 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "upstart config does not sleep between pings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611101 | 01:17 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #611102 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "mysqld does not start due to typo in upstart config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611102 | 01:21 |
| RoAkSoAx | exit | 02:02 |
| zul | im broken? | 02:10 |
| jeeves_Moss | how can I force a 6.4LTS server to do a dist upgrade? I've tried "apt-get dist-update" and it claims there is no updates | 02:45 |
| arrrghhh | 6.04 isn't supported is it? | 02:46 |
| arrrghhh | do-release-upgrade | 02:46 |
| jeeves_Moss | arrrghhh, I had to install 6.04 in order to get these IBM x335 boxes to play nice with Ubuntu | 02:47 |
| arrrghhh | are you sure it's a good idea to upgrade them then? lol | 02:48 |
| jeeves_Moss | arrrghhh, they're fresh installs, so if it tanks, I'll just reinstall | 02:48 |
| arrrghhh | there's emergency broacast boxes that run redhat distro's from 1996 becuase it works. | 02:48 |
| jeeves_Moss | arrrghhh, what's the syntax I need? | 02:48 |
| arrrghhh | if it works, it works. | 02:48 |
| arrrghhh | "sudo do-release-upgrade" what do you mean? | 02:48 |
| jeeves_Moss | arrrghhh, that's what I needed to know. I was trying "sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade" and it wasn't working. LOL | 02:49 |
| arrrghhh | oh... crap. sorry haha. | 02:49 |
| jeeves_Moss | arrrghhh, your syntax didn't work. it just line feeds | 02:49 |
| arrrghhh | hrm... | 02:49 |
| arrrghhh | maybe that was an advent with 8.04 | 02:49 |
| jeeves_Moss | other ideas? | 02:50 |
| arrrghhh | aptitude? | 02:50 |
| arrrghhh | aptitude safe-upgrade i think | 02:50 |
| jeeves_Moss | nana | 02:51 |
| jeeves_Moss | *nada | 02:51 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade | 02:51 |
| arrrghhh | go to the "network upgrade for ubuntu servers" section | 02:52 |
| jeeves_Moss | arrrghhh, that's desktop | 02:52 |
| arrrghhh | c'mon now! | 02:52 |
| arrrghhh | i know it says 8.04 -> 10.04 | 02:52 |
| jeeves_Moss | yep | 02:52 |
| arrrghhh | but do it | 02:52 |
| arrrghhh | apt-get install update-manager-core | 02:52 |
| arrrghhh | edit /ect/update-manager/release-upgrades and set prompt=lts | 02:53 |
| arrrghhh | or to =normal, whatever | 02:53 |
| arrrghhh | and sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release | 02:53 |
| jeeves_Moss | sudo apt-get install update-manager-core | 02:53 |
| jeeves_Moss | sudo do-release-upgrade | 02:53 |
| arrrghhh | i was going to keep you in LTS trains | 02:54 |
| arrrghhh | but whatever mang | 02:54 |
| arrrghhh | it's all there in that doc! | 02:54 |
| jeeves_Moss | thanks | 02:54 |
| jeeves_Moss | ...and off to hardy we go | 02:57 |
| arrrghhh | have fun | 02:57 |
| lfaraone | If you don't have plymouth installed, does "splash" in the kernel parameter do antyhing? | 03:42 |
| imyousuf | Hi | 04:52 |
| imyousuf | I am facing some problem regarding discovering nodes in eucalyptus http://paste.ubuntu.com/470196/ | 04:53 |
| imyousuf | When it is discovering a node it is identifying with its inet6 address and not the inet4 address | 04:53 |
| imyousuf | can someone please help resolve this issue | 04:54 |
| Adman65 | i am using the ec2 image, i added a new user via adduser, except I can't connect as that user using its password. Do I have to pass in a pem file when I ssh ? | 05:17 |
| SpamapS | Adman65: its likely that password auth is just turned off for the EC2 images. | 05:51 |
| smoser | Daviey, awake ? | 05:59 |
| smoser | Adman65, password auth in ssh is disabled in ec2 images. | 06:00 |
| smoser | to "fix": | 06:00 |
| smoser | sed -i "s/#PasswordAuthentication/PasswordAuthentication/" /etc/ssh/sshd_config | 06:01 |
| smoser | sudo sed -i "s/#PasswordAuthentication/PasswordAuthentication/" /etc/ssh/sshd_config | 06:01 |
| smoser | sudo restart ssh | 06:01 |
| imyousuf | I am facing some problem regarding discovering nodes in eucalyptus (UEC) http://paste.ubuntu.com/470196/ | 06:24 |
| imyousuf | When it is discovering a node it is identifying with its inet6 address and not the inet4 address | 06:24 |
| twb | Do you actually use ipv6 at all? | 06:25 |
| twb | If not, suggest turning it off at the boot prompt | 06:25 |
| imyousuf | twb: nope | 06:27 |
| imyousuf | twb: by boot prompt do you mean bios? | 06:27 |
| twb | No, I mean in your bootloader: grub or pxelinux or whatever | 06:27 |
| imyousuf | ok, I am using grub, can you plz give me a pointer to how I might go about achieving it twb? | 06:28 |
| twb | grub2 or grub legacy | 06:29 |
| imyousuf | twb: the one provided with Lucid Lynx | 06:29 |
| twb | In /etc/default/grub add ipv6.disable=1 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and run "update-grub" | 06:29 |
| imyousuf | twb: currently the value is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" changing it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet ipv6.disable=1" and running update-grub | 06:31 |
| ttx | RoAkSoAx: pong | 07:17 |
| RoAkSoAx | ttx: I attached a debdiff for rhcs | 07:41 |
| RoAkSoAx | bug #600984 | 07:41 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 600984 in redhat-cluster "redhat-cluster-suite fails to build from source in maverick" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600984 | 07:41 |
| ttx | RoAkSoAx: ok | 07:42 |
| Daviey | smoser, o/ | 07:59 |
| smoser | hey | 07:59 |
| smoser | que pasa senor? | 07:59 |
| Daviey | smoser, oh joy, about ftbfs | 07:59 |
| smoser | i've a merge for you to look at for eucalyptus. | 07:59 |
| smoser | yeah | 07:59 |
| smoser | once it bfs, i have some changes that i need. | 08:00 |
| smoser | they'rre not well tested, thoguh, as i can't install | 08:00 |
| smoser | :) | 08:00 |
| smoser | but fairly well tested given that slight difficulty | 08:00 |
| Daviey | HAH | 08:00 |
| eagles0513875 | i need some serious help | 08:01 |
| eagles0513875 | for some reason my server seems to be stuck in an infinite loop | 08:01 |
| eagles0513875 | it boots up gets to the login then shuts down and restarts | 08:01 |
| smoser | if you care to review, Daviey https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/ubuntu/maverick/eucalyptus/maverick.bug611144/+merge/31249 | 08:02 |
| Daviey | smoser, visually, it looks sane | 08:05 |
| smoser | well, it builds. | 08:05 |
| Daviey | smoser, in lucid or maverick? | 08:07 |
| smoser | in maverick | 08:08 |
| smoser | i hand installed the libjibx into an otherwise clean schroot | 08:08 |
| smoser | the dpkg-buildpackage | 08:08 |
| Daviey | ahh | 08:09 |
| Daviey | sweet :) | 08:09 |
| === TeLLuS_ is now known as TeLLuS | ||
| uvirtbot | New bug: #611177 in samba (main) "samba as pdc, w2k3 as memberserver, winxp domainclients" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611177 | 08:26 |
| === remix_auei is now known as remix_tj | ||
| eagles0513875 | vhey guys i need some big time help i have a server down and its kind of in an infinite boot up and restart loop | 08:46 |
| eagles0513875 | im trying to boot onto the live cd and it wont read it for some reason and with out any networking i can login but after logging in it restarts itself | 08:46 |
| qman__ | eagles0513875, not much you can do until you get it booted to a live environment, or load the disk in another computer | 08:54 |
| eagles0513875 | sigh :( | 08:54 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: woudl a network boot work? | 08:55 |
| qman__ | have you tried the "recovery mode" option? | 08:55 |
| qman__ | only if you have a server hosting PXE images | 08:55 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: what do i press to get to grub and kernel selection | 08:55 |
| qman__ | for grub1, escape, for grub2, hold left shift | 08:55 |
| eagles0513875 | hold on | 08:55 |
| qman__ | recovery mode boots it into single user, and then gives you a few options besides just dropping to a root shell | 08:56 |
| eagles0513875 | i know | 08:56 |
| eagles0513875 | i think this loop has something to do with watchdog | 08:56 |
| eagles0513875 | im holding shift and im getting no response | 08:57 |
| eagles0513875 | its like its ignoring the keyboard | 08:57 |
| qman__ | USB? | 08:57 |
| eagles0513875 | ya | 08:58 |
| eagles0513875 | also the cd drive si a bit wonky | 08:58 |
| eagles0513875 | its a sata cd rom drive | 08:59 |
| qman__ | if so, try playing with the legacy USB keyboard options in the BIOS | 08:59 |
| qman__ | or try PS/2 | 08:59 |
| qman__ | make sure it's in "native IDE" mode | 08:59 |
| qman__ | some things can handle AHCI, others can't | 09:00 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: what doesnt make sense is this was working just fine yesterday | 09:00 |
| qman__ | it's a big mess, so if you don't need to hot plug your drive, just use native IDE | 09:01 |
| eagles0513875 | blarg this is a mess | 09:01 |
| qman__ | now, hard drives can really benefit from AHCI, but disc drives, not a big deal | 09:01 |
| eagles0513875 | man this is getting frustrating | 09:02 |
| eagles0513875 | i am wondering if it was the time as the time in the bios was 2 hrs behind | 09:03 |
| qman__ | eagles0513875, by default, linux sets the hardware clock to UTC | 09:03 |
| eagles0513875 | humm | 09:04 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 09:04 |
| eagles0513875 | that didnt do it | 09:04 |
| eagles0513875 | and i cant change to legacy usb | 09:04 |
| SuperPetRalf | Can you not trying setting your first boot device to CDROM and then putting in a recovery disk | 09:04 |
| SuperPetRalf | just to see if you even get usb support? | 09:04 |
| eagles0513875 | SuperLag: already have that | 09:06 |
| eagles0513875 | setup like that and it still doesnt boot off the live cd | 09:06 |
| eagles0513875 | of ubuntu server | 09:06 |
| SuperPetRalf | ahh | 09:06 |
| SuperPetRalf | sorry couldnt scroll back that far | 09:06 |
| eagles0513875 | its ok | 09:06 |
| eagles0513875 | i am running out of ideas | 09:07 |
| eagles0513875 | i think a reinstall might be in order | 09:07 |
| SuperPetRalf | what happens when you try to boot it up? | 09:07 |
| eagles0513875 | starts up i login and it shutdown and reboots | 09:07 |
| SuperPetRalf | and in single user mode the same? | 09:08 |
| qman__ | his keyboard isn't working to interrupt grub and get to single | 09:08 |
| qman__ | you're going to have to fix one or the other, the CD or the keyboard, in any case | 09:08 |
| qman__ | can't exactly reinstall if you can't boot the live environment | 09:09 |
| SuperPetRalf | ah have you tried booting from a USB device? | 09:09 |
| eagles0513875 | thing is i dont have a spare usb device on me atm | 09:09 |
| eagles0513875 | the one i have is 16 gb of data on it | 09:09 |
| eagles0513875 | actually brb | 09:09 |
| eagles0513875 | cuz the office was supposed to order some for work | 09:09 |
| eagles0513875 | hold on i might not need it | 09:10 |
| eagles0513875 | ok nm | 09:10 |
| eagles0513875 | i do need it | 09:10 |
| SuperPetRalf | sure could it be ahrd ware issue if the kb isnt working and its in a boot loop? | 09:10 |
| eagles0513875 | it seems like all processes are crashing from what im seeing during shutdown | 09:10 |
| eagles0513875 | the server was workign juts fine yesterday | 09:10 |
| eagles0513875 | brb | 09:11 |
| qman__ | that doesn't rule out a hardware issue | 09:11 |
| SuperPetRalf | has anything changed? plugged in sumthink | 09:11 |
| SuperPetRalf | Does it crash ont he same process every time? | 09:15 |
| SuperPetRalf | on the | 09:15 |
| eagles0513875 | it seems like its something with udev | 09:16 |
| eagles0513875 | im gonna use my pendrive and create a bootable usb | 09:16 |
| eagles0513875 | using unetbootin | 09:16 |
| eagles0513875 | just have to get all my data off it first | 09:17 |
| SuperPetRalf | Sure one other suggestion, when you do remove all the hardware you dont need, including some of the ram and the CD ROM drive if you can | 09:17 |
| eagles0513875 | SuperPetRalf: ? | 09:18 |
| SuperPetRalf | Just incase it is a hardware issue, it maybe on the the external devices | 09:18 |
| SuperPetRalf | or an internal device such as a broken pin in the ide cable or faulty RAM | 09:19 |
| eagles0513875 | ieverything is sata | 09:20 |
| eagles0513875 | from cd drive to hdd drives | 09:20 |
| eagles0513875 | i unplugged the network | 09:20 |
| eagles0513875 | which helped some | 09:20 |
| eagles0513875 | before with it plugged in | 09:20 |
| eagles0513875 | it was an instant reboot | 09:20 |
| eagles0513875 | without network it at least stays up for a bit then i login and it goes down | 09:21 |
| eagles0513875 | i think im getting ddosed or something | 09:22 |
| SuperPetRalf | is it possibly 2 seperate issues, for example you cant use the kb in grub becuase USB support isnt there and there is a corrupt file cousing your system to reboot? | 09:22 |
| eagles0513875 | SuperPetRalf: all i did was modify something in the watchdog conf file and restarted watchdog | 09:23 |
| eagles0513875 | and after that thats when it was in the infinite loop | 09:23 |
| eagles0513875 | prior to that it was fine | 09:23 |
| SuperPetRalf | can you resotre the old file | 09:24 |
| eagles0513875 | i know what i modified | 09:24 |
| eagles0513875 | just have to comment out one thing | 09:24 |
| SuperPetRalf | idea | 09:24 |
| SuperPetRalf | can you turn it on but not logon | 09:25 |
| SuperPetRalf | then login remotly with ssh? | 09:25 |
| eagles0513875 | i could try that | 09:25 |
| eagles0513875 | also take a look at this | 09:25 |
| eagles0513875 | http://pastebin.com/ebmPZndP <---does that look like someone trying to hack or dos the network | 09:25 |
| SuperPetRalf | there all outbound though | 09:26 |
| eagles0513875 | not all | 09:26 |
| SuperPetRalf | but the majority are and I dont htink that could be anough for DOS conditions | 09:26 |
| qman__ | only one is inbound | 09:27 |
| qman__ | looks like your server's been compromised to me | 09:27 |
| qman__ | unless you're legitimately scanning those IPs yourself | 09:27 |
| eagles0513875 | im not | 09:27 |
| eagles0513875 | im protected by router firewall | 09:27 |
| eagles0513875 | only ports i have open and forwarded to the server are 22 and 80 | 09:28 |
| qman__ | that's more than enough | 09:28 |
| eagles0513875 | so i need to get iptables up and running on the server as well as a proxy | 09:28 |
| qman__ | you need to fix the hole that they got in with, if they got in | 09:28 |
| eagles0513875 | ya its server side i think | 09:29 |
| qman__ | leave it off the network, and check for evidence of a break in | 09:29 |
| eagles0513875 | thing is i removed the server from the connection via router to the internet | 09:29 |
| eagles0513875 | breakin in what sense | 09:29 |
| SuperPetRalf | yeah but the traffic is outbound | 09:29 |
| SuperPetRalf | suggesting if it is its allready comprimised | 09:29 |
| qman__ | unauthorized SSH login, most likely | 09:29 |
| qman__ | with a subsequent rooting | 09:29 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: i use an alpha numeric password which isnt easy to crack | 09:30 |
| qman__ | doesn't matter | 09:30 |
| qman__ | using password authentication at all is risky | 09:30 |
| SuperPetRalf | brute force, but i still dont think its likly to be that | 09:30 |
| eagles0513875 | thing is i cant even check the logs | 09:30 |
| eagles0513875 | and most of the attacks are on closed ports | 09:31 |
| SuperPetRalf | whats the IP address of the server? | 09:31 |
| qman__ | those are outbound connections | 09:31 |
| SuperPetRalf | .4 or .7? | 09:31 |
| eagles0513875 | none of those | 09:31 |
| SuperPetRalf | then its not the server | 09:31 |
| eagles0513875 | server has a static internal ip | 09:31 |
| SuperPetRalf | look at the addresses | 09:31 |
| qman__ | blocking inbound ports has no effect on them | 09:31 |
| eagles0513875 | those i believe are wifi addresses | 09:31 |
| SuperPetRalf | ahh but all the traffic goes no where near the server so to speak | 09:32 |
| SuperPetRalf | look its all outbound .2.4 and 2.7 | 09:32 |
| qman__ | yeah | 09:32 |
| qman__ | looks like you had a couple zombies on your wifi then | 09:32 |
| qman__ | or someone playing around with nmap | 09:32 |
| alex88 | i'm finally got working suexec with fcgid, but it uses a wrapper that contains http://pastebin.com/KCsLN1dR, now, the wrapper must be owned by the user, so he can change it and put whatever command he wants, how can i solve this? | 09:32 |
| SuperPetRalf | try and ssh into your own server | 09:33 |
| eagles0513875 | those are wifi ips from .2 to 100 | 09:33 |
| eagles0513875 | via router dhcp | 09:33 |
| qman__ | if your server is on the same subnet, you definitely need to put up a firewall | 09:33 |
| qman__ | but that's down the road | 09:34 |
| qman__ | if none of those addresses point to your server, then it's irrelevant | 09:34 |
| SuperPetRalf | and there are time log inconsistences too | 09:34 |
| qman__ | and this is sounding more like hardware failure by the minute | 09:34 |
| eagles0513875 | ssh seems to be down | 09:34 |
| SuperPetRalf | see no 11 then 12 and you see what i mean | 09:34 |
| eagles0513875 | cant ssh in | 09:35 |
| SuperPetRalf | anyway ssh is down just checking are you re plugged in | 09:35 |
| huats | morning | 09:35 |
| SuperPetRalf | can you ping? | 09:35 |
| SuperPetRalf | Morning | 09:35 |
| eagles0513875 | wait hold on | 09:35 |
| qman__ | are you using an onboard NIC? | 09:36 |
| eagles0513875 | no | 09:37 |
| eagles0513875 | that was faulty | 09:37 |
| eagles0513875 | its a pci nic | 09:37 |
| eagles0513875 | i was gonna get a 2nd pci nic | 09:37 |
| SuperPetRalf | no ping reply is that? | 09:38 |
| eagles0513875 | put one on the dmz and route the traffic to the other one after content filtering etc | 09:38 |
| qman__ | well, that's even more suspect | 09:38 |
| eagles0513875 | server is offline atm | 09:38 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: ? | 09:38 |
| qman__ | if the onboard was already dead, the motherboard is likely crapping out | 09:38 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: thing is i had taken this server home and installed server just fine using the onboard nic | 09:38 |
| eagles0513875 | came to work and it didnt work here | 09:38 |
| SuperPetRalf | you mean during that time you installed fisrt and powered up now its been moved!? | 09:39 |
| eagles0513875 | let me see if i can boot onto a bootable pendrive | 09:40 |
| eagles0513875 | SuperPetRalf: yes | 09:40 |
| eagles0513875 | i reinstalled with this other nic card i bought | 09:40 |
| SuperPetRalf | ahh | 09:40 |
| qman__ | a failing southbridge chip would explain everything | 09:40 |
| SuperPetRalf | hardware, or maybe disloged component | 09:40 |
| qman__ | udev crashing, NIC failure | 09:40 |
| eagles0513875 | O_O | 09:40 |
| SuperPetRalf | im with qman on that | 09:40 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: this has been online for at least 2 three weeks | 09:40 |
| qman__ | irrelevant | 09:41 |
| qman__ | all hardware fails eventually | 09:41 |
| qman__ | when is a matter of chance | 09:41 |
| SuperPetRalf | most of the time it jsut goes | 09:41 |
| SuperPetRalf | no warning | 09:41 |
| SuperPetRalf | especailly if youve moved it | 09:41 |
| eagles0513875 | thing is this is only a 1 yr old machine | 09:42 |
| qman__ | also irrelevant | 09:42 |
| SuperPetRalf | is it on a UPS? | 09:42 |
| eagles0513875 | yes | 09:42 |
| SuperPetRalf | is the UPS rated hight enough? | 09:42 |
| qman__ | could be the power supply as well, but it's a bit too consistent | 09:42 |
| qman__ | when they go, they either usually just pop | 09:43 |
| qman__ | or fail under a heavy load | 09:43 |
| ttx | Daviey: around ? | 09:43 |
| qman__ | which I guess booting up could case | 09:43 |
| SuperPetRalf | not if its a 250w USP and 350 PSU | 09:43 |
| Daviey | ttx: o/ | 09:44 |
| Daviey | ttx: Going through my back log, wanted to catch up with you. | 09:45 |
| ttx | Daviey: I had a few questions on the status of euca 2.0 regressions wrt alpha3 | 09:45 |
| Daviey | ttx: I am ontop of hggdh's bugs. | 09:45 |
| ttx | great | 09:45 |
| Daviey | ttx: Well at the moment euca 2.0 FTBFS on maverick | 09:45 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: and SuperPetRalf i have anothe rmachine here at the office i can setup if all else fails | 09:45 |
| Daviey | (archive version) | 09:45 |
| ttx | Daviey: smoser told me. The jibx transition was half done on our side | 09:45 |
| SuperPetRalf | if youve got backups of the old one i would go for it | 09:45 |
| qman__ | eagles0513875, run some hardware diagnostics, boot live and put it under a heavy load | 09:45 |
| ttx | Daviey: just wondering why it hits so late | 09:46 |
| qman__ | try taking it off the UPS or swapping the power supply, see if it fixes the problem | 09:46 |
| qman__ | if it doesn't, it's probably the motherboard | 09:46 |
| Daviey | ttx: The old version was only removed from the archive yesterday | 09:46 |
| ttx | arh. | 09:46 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: making live usb of kubuntu atm | 09:46 |
| eagles0513875 | only iso i have laying around on this laptop atm | 09:46 |
| ttx | Daviey: ok, keep me posted, and don't hasitate to ask me/Dustin for support if needed | 09:47 |
| SuperPetRalf | sure | 09:47 |
| Daviey | ttx: Personally, i'm not convinced it needs a MIR.. but i guess i should - but MIR's currently seem to be operating slowly | 09:47 |
| ttx | MIR ? For jibx ? | 09:47 |
| Daviey | ttx: yeah | 09:48 |
| ttx | it's just a package split... so it's should be a formality | 09:48 |
| === ogra_ is now known as ogra | ||
| ttx | the apckage was already reviewed, it's just a matter of promoting it | 09:48 |
| Daviey | ttx: the new package isn't yet in Ubuntu.. There isn't ANY jibx in Maverick at the moment, i don't think | 09:48 |
| ttx | but there was one :) Once in main, can return to main. | 09:49 |
| Daviey | Yeah.. it was for this, i thought it could bypass a MIR. | 09:49 |
| ttx | Daviey: I'd really much like to have the basic UEC installer work out of the box for A3, like it used to | 09:49 |
| Daviey | ttx: Agreed. | 09:50 |
| ttx | I don't care so much about the 10% instance fail rate | 09:50 |
| Daviey | ttx: I need to do some investigation to the registration issue. | 09:50 |
| ttx | that we can fix after | 09:50 |
| Daviey | ttx: It seems it's inconsistent.. :/ | 09:50 |
| ttx | Daviey: Ideally we need to identify the upstream issues | 09:50 |
| ttx | if any | 09:50 |
| ttx | to push them upstream today | 09:51 |
| Daviey | yeah.. There is a call with them today, so i'll try and make sure as much is ready for that. | 09:51 |
| ttx | inconsistent ? I thought euca_conf --list-nodes always failed | 09:51 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: and SuperPetRalf live usb is working booting into single user mode | 09:51 |
| eagles0513875 | what should i run | 09:51 |
| eagles0513875 | should i drop down to a root shell with networking ? or a normal root shell SuperPetRalf or qman__ | 09:52 |
| qman__ | eagles0513875, with the live environment, you really should load the normal full system | 09:52 |
| qman__ | GUI and all, and load some heavy application to stress the hardware | 09:52 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 09:52 |
| Daviey | ttx: That does seem to, but describe-avaliability-zones verbose, sometimes returns | 09:53 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: normal system is loaded | 09:53 |
| SuperPetRalf | and try editing your watchdog file back to norman | 09:53 |
| SuperPetRalf | normal | 09:53 |
| ttx | Daviey: registration.log should leave a clear trail of what was detected and called | 09:53 |
| SuperPetRalf | ping out see if your nic is working as it should | 09:53 |
| ttx | Daviey: to check of the absence of reg is due to an announce issue or a reg issue | 09:54 |
| eagles0513875 | SuperPetRalf: how can i mount the partition of the cd drive cuz on the live usb its only seeing the pendrive partition | 09:56 |
| SuperPetRalf | use the mount command | 09:57 |
| SuperPetRalf | go to command line and type man mount | 09:57 |
| eagles0513875 | SuperPetRalf: i know how to use it but i cant seem to find the partition listed when doign fdisk -l | 09:58 |
| SuperPetRalf | has it deteced it? | 09:59 |
| eagles0513875 | how can i tell | 09:59 |
| SuperPetRalf | lspci it | 09:59 |
| eagles0513875 | detected the har ddrive | 10:00 |
| SuperPetRalf | ah, qman_ maybe better at this than me | 10:01 |
| eagles0513875 | ahhh here we go | 10:01 |
| SuperPetRalf | go it? | 10:01 |
| eagles0513875 | had to drop down to runlevel 1 | 10:01 |
| SuperPetRalf | ahh | 10:01 |
| eagles0513875 | humm but cant mount it as its not listed in the fstab | 10:01 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: any suggestions | 10:01 |
| eagles0513875 | besides adding it to the fstab | 10:02 |
| qman__ | eagles0513875, use sudo | 10:04 |
| eagles0513875 | i did and still wasnt getting listed | 10:05 |
| qman__ | sudo mount /dev/sd?? /media/disk | 10:05 |
| SuperPetRalf | isnt a cd "scd"? | 10:06 |
| SuperPetRalf | ahh grep it | 10:06 |
| qman__ | a CD could be scd or sr, but I don't know why you'd be mounting a CD | 10:06 |
| SuperPetRalf | well it gives you sumthing to do :) I think eagles needs someting off the cd | 10:07 |
| qman__ | my CD used to be hda | 10:07 |
| qman__ | changed in an update | 10:07 |
| eagles0513875 | question | 10:07 |
| eagles0513875 | how can i get to the etc of the mounted drive | 10:07 |
| eagles0513875 | wait there it is | 10:07 |
| SuperPetRalf | lol my cd used to be /dev/null | 10:08 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 10:08 |
| eagles0513875 | lets see if that fixes it | 10:09 |
| * eagles0513875 crosses fingers | 10:09 | |
| eagles0513875 | server is back up SuperPetRalf and qman__ | 10:10 |
| * eagles0513875 makes not to self not to modify watchdog.conf file | 10:10 | |
| SuperPetRalf | WEY! | 10:10 |
| SuperPetRalf | congrats mate | 10:10 |
| eagles0513875 | ty | 10:10 |
| eagles0513875 | now to firewall it for extra protection | 10:10 |
| eagles0513875 | !iptables | eagles0513875 | 10:10 |
| ubottu | eagles0513875, please see my private message | 10:10 |
| qman__ | yeah, just keep in mind that there's no such thing as a secure wireless network | 10:12 |
| qman__ | if you design and configure with that in mind, you won't have any problems | 10:12 |
| SuperPetRalf | sure there is its when you turn it off :) | 10:12 |
| qman__ | treat wireless like you treat the internet | 10:12 |
| eagles0513875 | ya | 10:12 |
| eagles0513875 | i hear ya | 10:12 |
| eagles0513875 | its encrypted but cant be too safe | 10:12 |
| eagles0513875 | :) | 10:13 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: and SuperPetRalf would you guys recommend me getting a 2nd nic and putting that on the dmz then routing traffic to the internal nic or no need | 10:13 |
| eagles0513875 | or can i still provide content filtering with a single nic interface | 10:13 |
| eagles0513875 | i wonder if i coudl get the onboard working | 10:13 |
| ShadeS | eagles0513875: yes, you can. | 10:13 |
| eagles0513875 | ok cuz i want to do a lil content filtering for users of the wifi | 10:14 |
| qman__ | you shouldn't need multiple NICs anywhere but at your router | 10:14 |
| jordanl | is there a limit to the number of IP addresses that you can associate with a NIC in /etc/network/interfaces? | 10:14 |
| qman__ | I would suggest moving your wireless to its own DMZ if you can | 10:14 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: so you wouldnt recommend putting one nic on the dmz and then routing traffic to a nic which isn ton the dmz | 10:14 |
| qman__ | but that's not always practical | 10:14 |
| eagles0513875 | we want it secure | 10:14 |
| ShadeS | when you saccrifice usability for security you're being too secure ;) | 10:14 |
| eagles0513875 | lol ShadeS dont get me started with this goverment fiber line we have here at this clinic | 10:15 |
| eagles0513875 | way too bloody restricted | 10:15 |
| qman__ | eagles0513875, splitting your network in multiple places isn't necessary | 10:15 |
| qman__ | you should split it at the router | 10:15 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: ok | 10:15 |
| jordanl | i added a second IP to /etc/network/interfaces using an "iface eth0:1 inet static" etc. line | 10:15 |
| SuperPetRalf | second that | 10:15 |
| ShadeS | "Those that give up essential useability for security, deserve neither useability or security!" - Benjamin franklin | 10:15 |
| jordanl | which works | 10:15 |
| SuperPetRalf | youd end up over complicating things | 10:15 |
| jordanl | but adding a third IP using "iface eth0:2 inet static" doesn't seem to work | 10:15 |
| SuperPetRalf | lol | 10:16 |
| jordanl | i can't ping it from the outside | 10:16 |
| qman__ | jordanl, IME, if you want to use subinterfaces you have to de-configure the main interface | 10:16 |
| jordanl | actually, i can ping it from something else on the same switch | 10:16 |
| jordanl | but not from outside that switch | 10:16 |
| eagles0513875 | brb | 10:17 |
| jordanl | qman__: de-configure the main interface? what do you mean by that? | 10:17 |
| qman__ | jordanl, I have never managed a working configuration where 'eth0' and 'eth0:1' both worked simultaneously, always had to change over to a 'eth0:1', 'eth0:2' setup | 10:18 |
| jordanl | i see | 10:19 |
| jordanl | so don't specify anything at all in the file for regular eth0? | 10:19 |
| qman__ | just `auto eth0` so it brings the hardware online | 10:19 |
| jordanl | currently i have a section for "iface eth0 inet static" | 10:19 |
| qman__ | I would simply change the 'eth0' in that line to 'eth0:0' | 10:19 |
| * eagles0513875 is happy that server is back online | 10:23 | |
| jordanl | qman__: is it possible to make this change without restarting the system? | 10:24 |
| jordanl | can i just /etc/init.d/networking restart | 10:25 |
| qman__ | jordanl, yes | 10:25 |
| qman__ | or service networking restart | 10:25 |
| jordanl | didn't quite work as expected | 10:27 |
| jordanl | "ip addr show" still lists an IP for eth0 | 10:27 |
| jordanl | and nothing for eth0:0, in fact, i got an error when it tried to assign an address to eth0:0 | 10:27 |
| jordanl | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/242999/ | 10:28 |
| eagles0513875 | question qman__ or SuperPetRalf if i am using godaddy's dns and pointing the domain i have with them at the server ip woudl i need to have port 53 open on the server? | 10:30 |
| jordanl | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/243000/ | 10:31 |
| qman__ | eagles0513875, no | 10:31 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 10:31 |
| eagles0513875 | qman__: would you suggest changing the port ssh uses? | 10:31 |
| qman__ | eagles0513875, no | 10:31 |
| qman__ | I would suggest using key-based authentication instead of passwords | 10:32 |
| eagles0513875 | ok will do that now gonna need some help with that but let me get the firewall up and running | 10:32 |
| qman__ | jordanl, I haven't seen that one before | 10:32 |
| jordanl | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/243001/ | 10:33 |
| qman__ | maybe they've changed some things to make it work | 10:33 |
| jordanl | that's my conf file | 10:33 |
| qman__ | oh, I bet I know what it is | 10:33 |
| jordanl | the ubuntu server guide made it seem so easy | 10:33 |
| qman__ | try removing the IP assigned to eth0 manually | 10:33 |
| qman__ | then restarting networking | 10:34 |
| jordanl | ok | 10:34 |
| jordanl | ip addr del 10.2.2.154/26 dev eth0 | 10:34 |
| jordanl | like that? | 10:34 |
| andyltm | What is the normal amount of load on a server (dual proc) with 2gb ram and a website that has ~ 20,000 pg views/day? | 10:35 |
| SuperPetRalf | if its a full blown server have you ever conisred sumthink like webmin | 10:35 |
| qman__ | I don't know how to do it with the ip command, I always use ifconfig, even though I guess that's the "wrong" way now | 10:35 |
| SuperPetRalf | theres a ip command? | 10:36 |
| jordanl | still no luck | 10:36 |
| jordanl | very strange that i can't ping the .160 from the outside | 10:36 |
| qman__ | more IOCTL errors? | 10:36 |
| qman__ | or just the ping not working | 10:37 |
| jordanl | no, the IOCTL errors went away | 10:37 |
| jordanl | and it looks okay in ip show | 10:37 |
| qman__ | ok | 10:37 |
| qman__ | how smart is the switch? | 10:37 |
| jordanl | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/243006/ | 10:38 |
| jordanl | the switch is supposed to be smart | 10:38 |
| ShadeS | 'supposed' | 10:38 |
| qman__ | that might be what's breaking it | 10:39 |
| jordanl | yes, it's a cisco | 10:39 |
| qman__ | if the switch is programmed to only allow X IPs per MAC | 10:39 |
| qman__ | or if it's doing something like STP and just dropping the ball | 10:39 |
| jordanl | i've encountered this before | 10:39 |
| jordanl | and i *think* rebooting fixed it | 10:40 |
| imyousuf | Hi | 10:45 |
| imyousuf | I need some help regarding eucalyptus | 10:45 |
| jordanl | i disabled the other secondary IP | 10:46 |
| jordanl | still not working :( | 10:46 |
| imyousuf | I am doing $ sudo service eucalyptus-nc status and getting start/running, but if I do euca-describe-availability-zones verbose the max column shows all 0. When I try sudo euca_conf --no-rsync --discover-nodes it does not discover any nodes :( can someone please help me? output of the commands are http://paste.ubuntu.com/470622/ | 10:48 |
| jordanl | i'll try to pick up on it tomorrow | 10:48 |
| jordanl | it's late here | 10:48 |
| jordanl | thanks for the help | 10:48 |
| qman__ | jordanl, good luck with it | 10:48 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #611226 in dovecot (main) "Dovecot-common Install Error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611226 | 11:06 |
| imyousuf | I am doing service eucalyptus-nc status and getting start/running, but if I do euca-describe-availability-zones verbose the max column shows all 0. When I try euca_conf --no-rsync --discover-nodes it does not discover any nodes :( can someone please help me? output of the commands are http://paste.ubuntu.com/470622/ (re-run) | 11:06 |
| maxb | Anyone who uses schroot here? | 11:20 |
| maxb | Any thoughts on why it might be running its chroot setup-stop scripts *twice* on chroot exit? | 11:20 |
| alex88 | is possible to restore database from mysql files? i mean, i have just the filesystem, not standard sql backup | 11:23 |
| imyousuf | twb`: if you have time would you kindly have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/470622/ ? I set the ipv6 setting after that, discover-nodes does not even discover the node :( | 11:29 |
| eagles0513875 | !squid | eagles0513875 | 11:29 |
| ubottu | eagles0513875, please see my private message | 11:29 |
| eagles0513875 | is there a wiki page for setting up squid on the ubuntu wiki | 11:30 |
| twb` | imyousuf: I don't provide support for eucalyptus | 11:30 |
| imyousuf | oh ok twb`, thanks, can you please point me to someone who does, I have been sitting with this for over a week :( | 11:30 |
| twb` | I can't, sorry. | 11:33 |
| imyousuf | twb`: np, thanks | 11:33 |
| eagles0513875 | quick question about iptables | 11:44 |
| eagles0513875 | i have port 80 open on the inbound connection how am i able to get a webpage with the outbound port being blocked? | 11:44 |
| === jo-erlend_ is now known as jo-erlend | ||
| twb` | What's the current best practice for doing PPPoE on lucid? | 12:58 |
| twb` | I see that a stock install has pulled in "pppoeconf", which depends on "ppp | pppoe" -- that seems to suggest those packages are interchangable. | 12:59 |
| eagles0513875 | !pppoe | 12:59 |
| ubottu | Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE | 12:59 |
| eagles0513875 | twb`: is that of any help for ya | 13:00 |
| twb` | eagles0513875: well, reading random shit on the internet is plan B. | 13:00 |
| pmatulis | doesn't look random to me | 13:00 |
| twb` | Plan A is to get a recommendation from a denizen here that I trust to have a clue | 13:00 |
| twb` | (Though that recommendation could be "ubuntu-serverguide's way is the Right Way") | 13:01 |
| twb` | pmatulis: the community part of the wiki can be pretty random :-( | 13:03 |
| Daviey | twb`, If you are happy to follow that, and report how it works out - if it looks good, we can move it to the offical part. | 13:10 |
| twb` | Daviey: fairy nuff. | 13:10 |
| twb` | I can't actually do that TODAY, because manglement hasn't arranged for a spare DSL modem and account to test against. | 13:11 |
| Daviey | :( | 13:11 |
| twb` | I should also grovel through the C4 host that's currently doing our PPPoE | 13:12 |
| eduardo_f | I have a shell script that writes stuff in a lofile, I want to execute the script in a way that it is restarted if nothing is written in the logfile for 30 mins, ideas? | 13:15 |
| twb` | That concept is called a "watchdog" | 13:19 |
| twb` | If you go through apt, there's probably a couple of tools to facilitate it | 13:19 |
| eduardo_f | pseudo-code would be smth like this: if (not writing to logfile) then (restart process) unless (process finished) | 13:22 |
| eduardo_f | I guess I want a software watchdog, not the kernel one, I'll look through apt, thnx twb` | 13:22 |
| twb` | eduardo_f: right | 13:22 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #611272 in tomcat6 (main) "clean tomcat6 install causes load to go up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611272 | 13:31 |
| cloakable | Of course it does, it's Java >.> | 13:32 |
| eagles0513875 | !watchdog | eagles0513875 | 14:04 |
| diogo_79 | hi | 14:12 |
| diogo_79 | guys how can i see what services are running on ubuntu? | 14:13 |
| pmatulis | diogo_79: you can look at open ports (listening) or processes running | 14:16 |
| diogo_79 | what is the command ? | 14:17 |
| SuperPetRalf | why not just do a top? | 14:17 |
| SuperPetRalf | thats: | 14:18 |
| SuperPetRalf | $ top | 14:18 |
| diogo_79 | thanks | 14:19 |
| SuperPetRalf | np hope thats what your looking for | 14:19 |
| tangerine0469 | i am having trouble installing 10.04 lts on a raid 1 can anyone help? | 14:20 |
| diogo_79 | when i do sudo mysql -e to grant privileges to a user gives me access denied dont undersand why if i execute the command with sudo | 14:20 |
| SuperPetRalf | Doesnt MySQL have a different user database to you linux box | 14:21 |
| nimrod10 | diogo_79, why do you need to do sudo mysql ? | 14:21 |
| SuperPetRalf | and whats the RAID issue? | 14:22 |
| nimrod10 | diogo_79, it should work fine without suda | 14:22 |
| nimrod10 | *sudo | 14:22 |
| diogo_79 | because without sudo gives me access denied | 14:22 |
| diogo_79 | where is the command | 14:22 |
| tangerine0469 | it asks me if i want to activate the raid and i say yes, then it fails to write the file system to the drive | 14:22 |
| diogo_79 | sudo mysql -e "grant all privileges on zabbix.* to zabbix@localhost identified by 'senha';" | 14:23 |
| diogo_79 | gives access denied to root | 14:23 |
| tangerine0469 | i get to the point of choosing a guided partitioning and i have chosen each of the options seperately and still get no where | 14:24 |
| SuperPetRalf | ah afraid im not going to be much use with that sorry, but there should be someone else in the community that can have you tries the ubunut forums? | 14:26 |
| tangerine0469 | not yet, i figured i would try this place first | 14:28 |
| tangerine0469 | thanks though | 14:28 |
| nimrod10 | diogo_79, you should be able to execute the mysql command without sudo access | 14:45 |
| nimrod10 | as in mysql -e "grant ...." | 14:45 |
| diogo_79 | but gives me access denied | 14:45 |
| nimrod10 | then run it with mysql -uyouruser -p -e "command " | 14:45 |
| thesheff17 | diaog_79: mysql command has nothing to do with sudo...mysql contains its own username/password in order to manipulate mysql stuff. | 14:47 |
| nimrod10 | the user that you give to mysql should be the user you have set up in mysql and NOT a linux user | 14:47 |
| mathiaz | ttx: howdy! | 14:49 |
| ttx | mathiaz: yo | 14:50 |
| mathiaz | ttx: is there a blueprint to track sponsoring work as work items? | 14:50 |
| ttx | mathiaz: no | 14:50 |
| mathiaz | ttx: IIRC there is a blueprint for New,Undecided bugs work | 14:50 |
| mathiaz | ttx: what do you think about creating a server-maverick-sponsoring blueprint? | 14:51 |
| ttx | mathiaz: as in one work item per week per core-dev/motu person ? | 14:51 |
| mathiaz | ttx: yes | 14:51 |
| mathiaz | ttx: modeled after the bug-triagging blueprint | 14:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #611305 in php5 (main) "No debug symbols for libapache2-mod-php5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611305 | 14:51 |
| ttx | hmm | 14:51 |
| mathiaz | ttx: server-maverick-dailytriage | 14:51 |
| mathiaz | ttx: the intent is the same IMO | 14:52 |
| ttx | I'm not totally convinced by that one tbh | 14:52 |
| BlackZ | hey mathiaz | 14:52 |
| mathiaz | ttx: why? | 14:52 |
| mathiaz | ttx: it shows up on the work item list and help to burn wi down | 14:52 |
| Daviey | ttx / mathiaz: Keep in mind package sets can also sponsor, not just motu/coredev | 14:52 |
| ttx | mathiaz: having plenty of work items that you cannot do anything about until it's time to act on them... | 14:53 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: right - I'd suggest the WI to be named: sponsor stuff | 14:53 |
| ttx | mathiaz: a calendar sounds more appropriate | 14:53 |
| Daviey | mathiaz, a BIG +1 | 14:53 |
| ttx | otherwise you'll duplicate your vacation notices | 14:53 |
| mathiaz | ttx: right - I'd still have to mark it as completed | 14:54 |
| ttx | completed ? or dropped ? | 14:54 |
| mathiaz | ttx: things I've done - so that it shows on the graph | 14:54 |
| Daviey | yeah.. and as it is supposed to be a dedicated thing - it should still show on our WI tracker | 14:54 |
| ttx | Also at the start of a subcycle you'll end up having 50 WIs with only 10 you can actually work on | 14:54 |
| ttx | which will make looking for them a bit counter-productive | 14:55 |
| Daviey | ttx, But the %'s increase of comepleted would then match the milestones? | 14:55 |
| ttx | so I wanted to try the dailytriage one for beta and see how well it flies | 14:55 |
| mathiaz | ttx: ok | 14:55 |
| mathiaz | ttx: my goal is to have the sponsoring work show up somehow | 14:56 |
| ttx | I think it generates noise and duplication | 14:56 |
| mathiaz | ttx: it seems that integrating it in the personal page is better then | 14:56 |
| ttx | I can be convinced otherwise though :) | 14:56 |
| mathiaz | ttx: including a calendar feed on the personal page | 14:56 |
| Daviey | Well we could speak with dholbach about duplicating the 5 a day project to sponsoring stuff | 14:56 |
| ttx | another way to fix it is to do "sponsor+triage" days (community role days) | 14:57 |
| Daviey | extracting sponsorship information via the LP API isn't complex | 14:57 |
| mathiaz | ttx: so that things that needs to be done on a specific day show up automatically | 14:57 |
| ttx | then it does not generate so much additional wi | 14:57 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: right - what I'd like to have is a report based on the sponsoring page but filtered for the ubuntu-server team | 14:58 |
| ttx | another thing I fear is that if 60% of the WIs are actually things that will get burned in all cases, being late in the remaining 40% might not be easy to spot | 14:58 |
| Daviey | mathiaz, a TODO list? | 14:58 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: yes - it's all about generating TODO lists | 14:58 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: which are small enough to not scare people away | 14:59 |
| ttx | in a nutshell, I'm not sure we need work items to show recurrent work that we can skip in case of absence | 14:59 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: and getting them small is about providing views | 14:59 |
| Daviey | mathiaz, Getting that should be reasonably easy.. limited to packages in the packageset | 14:59 |
| ttx | I prefer work items to be things that need to be completed | 14:59 |
| Daviey | (but should we only be sponosring stuff in our set - or generic)? | 14:59 |
| ttx | rather than a weekly task reminder | 14:59 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: start with set, then go on generic | 14:59 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: the idea is to provide multiple lists to process by order of priority | 15:00 |
| mathiaz | ttx: fair enough | 15:00 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: for example my sponsoring work consists of: | 15:00 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: 1. https://code.launchpad.net/~mathiaz/+activereviews | 15:01 |
| ttx | mathiaz: but that's just me. That's what I mean by "not entirely convinced" and wanting to try out with dailytriage first | 15:01 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: 2. https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-server/+activereviews | 15:01 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: 3. https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+activereviews | 15:01 |
| ttx | mathiaz: otherwise what's the next step, one work item with every weekly meeting ? | 15:01 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: 4. https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+patches | 15:01 |
| mathiaz | ttx: hm - I don't understand what you mean | 15:02 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: process each queue in that order | 15:02 |
| ttx | mathiaz: well, meetings also take time. Having one work item for each of your weekly meeting would account for that | 15:02 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: once arrived at the end of one queue, jump to the next one | 15:03 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: provided you still have time | 15:03 |
| ttx | mathiaz: if you have one to remember your "sponsoring hour" why not to remember your "weekly meeting" ? | 15:03 |
| Daviey | ahh, i see mathiaz - is your process documented? | 15:03 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: the other part of that is that sponsoring is time-boxed | 15:03 |
| Daviey | ttx, We don't have a problem attending meetings - it's also very obvious if people aren't there | 15:04 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: spend 1/2 a day maximum | 15:04 |
| Daviey | sponsorship seems to be slipping by, hence dholbach's email | 15:04 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: nope - it's in my head - and I'm still experimenting - that's my personal workflow | 15:04 |
| ttx | Daviey: we shouldn't have problems attending sponsoring hours. There is a schedule for them | 15:04 |
| ttx | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews | 15:04 |
| ttx | Daviey: to me sponsoring time is very close to meetign time. | 15:05 |
| ttx | it occurs at a specific time and takes one hour. | 15:05 |
| ttx | I cannot have opther meetings conflicting with it. | 15:05 |
| === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying | ||
| mathiaz | ttx: granted - if WI is defined as work to be done ASAP and sponosring/meeting as recurring event at a specific time/day, then meeting/sponosring should go on the calendar | 15:05 |
| Daviey | mathiaz, Talking about last week - i really think it is awesome if people share personal workflows - doesn't need to be an "offical" one | 15:05 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: agreed - I'm still experimenting with my workflow and improving on it | 15:06 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: I plan to blog about it - and/or share with others | 15:06 |
| Daviey | mathiaz, personally, i'd really appreciate it | 15:06 |
| mathiaz | Daviey: it's just in experimentation mode now - I'd like to wait until I can report that this is working well for me | 15:06 |
| mathiaz | ttx: how about server-maverick-isotesting | 15:07 |
| Daviey | oh sure | 15:07 |
| mathiaz | ttx: this is also something that can only happen at a very specific time | 15:08 |
| ttx | mathiaz: rigth.. I like that one because it accounts for work that needs to be done on release week | 15:08 |
| mathiaz | ttx: so having a WI also helps to calculate the workload? | 15:08 |
| ttx | mathiaz: not the workload. An accurate completion % | 15:09 |
| ttx | if you do 10 WI per week, you should only plan 9 on release week, since one of them is taken by ISO testing :) | 15:10 |
| mathiaz | ttx: so how is that different from sponsoring work? | 15:10 |
| ttx | adding 1 work item every week doesn't help in that area | 15:10 |
| mathiaz | ttx: gotcha | 15:10 |
| ttx | again, I'm open to experiment with it | 15:10 |
| ttx | I just fear to dilute the % work to be done into recurring work that will get done anyway. | 15:11 |
| * Daviey thinks about some pretty graphs! | 15:11 | |
| mathiaz | ttx: BTW when is the archive frozen for alpha3? | 15:12 |
| mathiaz | ttx: today Thursday or next Tuesday? | 15:12 |
| ttx | if you have 120 normal WI and 100 recurrent ones... The last 100 will get done anyway. But spotting that you'll be late on the first 120 gets harder | 15:12 |
| ttx | soft freeze, normally today | 15:12 |
| mathiaz | ttx: ok | 15:13 |
| ttx | That's why I asked for papercuts to be fixed before today, btw | 15:13 |
| nlko | hi guys, ive follwoed this tutorial here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman, when i send an email to the new list i get the following error "pipe_transport unset in system_aliases router" in exim4 mainlog...any ideas please? | 15:13 |
| * ttx pauses | 15:13 | |
| nlko | exim works to send email to system accounts and receives from remote addresses... | 15:13 |
| nlko | but when i send a email to the new list, i get that error ^ | 15:15 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #611316 in php5 (main) "Segmentation fault in php5-sybase" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611316 | 15:16 |
| Daviey | ttx, Are you free for a chat in a few mins? Currently in a call, and would be useful to talk about some of it. | 15:22 |
| nlko | no ideas? | 15:24 |
| ttx | Daviey: I'm available now | 15:33 |
| Daviey | rocking | 15:33 |
| Daviey | ttx, mumble? | 15:34 |
| ttx | Daviey: I'm on | 15:34 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: looks like the kolab patches are on the radar now for PHP | 15:42 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #611330 in openssh (main) "ssh hangs after login when using broadcom wifi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611330 | 15:46 |
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| ScottK | SpamapS: Yes. I've been following the discussion. Thank you. | 16:05 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: Hopefully the Kolab guy can help push it through when he gets back. ;) | 16:08 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: I've looked at the ceph package | 16:08 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: Do we need the configure stuff they mentioned? | 16:08 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: and curbed LP to be able to use a merge proposal to track the discussion | 16:09 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: so you may have received a bunch of uncessary emails while I was experimenting with LP to get it to do what I wanted | 16:09 |
| smoser | unnecessary emails from LP ? | 16:11 |
| smoser | what ? | 16:11 |
| smoser | </pretend_shock> | 16:11 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: I think I got one or two. :) | 16:17 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: let me know when you get to ceph - and I'll explain what I did to get the proposal going | 16:18 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: the *merge* proposal setup | 16:18 |
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| SpamapS | mathiaz: I'm looking at the proposal right now.. | 16:20 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: ok - so I've setup a project in LP with an empty-branch, branch it and copied the content of the source package from the PPA | 16:21 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: http://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/+junk/ceph-packaging this one at least fixes the lintian report W's and E's | 16:21 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: and then I pushed it to LP to create a merge proposal | 16:22 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: sage has been selectively pulling changes from that branch into his own packaging | 16:22 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: right - so could you rebase your +junk branch from lp:review-new-branches | 16:22 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: I don't know how to use rebase | 16:23 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: well - rebase was wrong choice | 16:23 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: basically restart based on lp:review-new-branches | 16:23 |
| SpamapS | lol ok.. and cherry pick diff's in? | 16:23 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: so that we can create a merge proposal and keep the discussion there | 16:23 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: yeah - if you wanna keep the history | 16:24 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: this is a workaround the fact that LP doesn't support commenting on branches | 16:24 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: I think its appropriate that a merge proposal is where discussion goes | 16:24 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: but its difficult when there's nothing to merge to.. ;) | 16:25 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: yeah - that's the issue ;) | 16:25 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: if you don't base your branch from an existing branch you can't create a merge proposal | 16:25 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: see bug 564391 | 16:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 564391 in launchpad-code "Enable commenting on a branch the same way as a merge proposal" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564391 | 16:26 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: and bug 575104 | 16:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 575104 in launchpad-code "No way to get review on the addition of an official branch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575104 | 16:27 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: so should I branch lp:~mathiaz/review-new-branches/ceph-new-pkg , or the trunk? | 16:27 |
| * mathiaz thinks | 16:28 | |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: you can branch lp:~mathiaz/review-new-branches/ceph-new-pkg and push it to your own LP account | 16:28 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: we'll start over the merge proposal then | 16:28 |
| SpamapS | right, and then propose to merge with yours | 16:28 |
| SpamapS | I don't think you have to start over | 16:29 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: with lp:review-new-branches | 16:29 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: my branch doesn't have anything special | 16:29 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: it's just a copy of the package. | 16:29 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: once we get the merge proposal rolling we'll be able to track fixes in new revisions | 16:30 |
| SpamapS | clint@ubuntu:~/pkg/ceph/bzr$ diff -ur ceph-new-pkg ceph | wc -l | 16:30 |
| SpamapS | 74 | 16:30 |
| SpamapS | My branch doesn't exactly have a ton of changes. :) | 16:30 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: this whole thing is an experiment for me as well - we'll problem run into some bumps along the way | 16:31 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: right, we usually don't have this problem because of auto-sync from debian. ;) | 16:32 |
| SpamapS | bzr: ERROR: Branches have no common ancestor, and no merge base revision was specified. | 16:37 |
| SpamapS | I'm trying to remember how to resolve this.. have done so before | 16:37 |
| ScottK | Delegate the task to someone lower in the food chain. | 16:38 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: ++ | 16:39 |
| SpamapS | crap | 16:39 |
| SpamapS | Only amoebas and Cucumbers below me in the food chain | 16:39 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: ok, pushed, merge proposed, I'm heading out for a few minutes | 16:46 |
| Yosi123 | hi all | 17:06 |
| Yosi123 | I just spoke to the ppl @ #httpd, and they are telling me that my hostname or host domain can't match the name of my apache2 virtual servers.. and that is the reason I'm getting a wierd error message when restarting apache2... does this make sense, and if so, is there an easy way to change the host or domain name of the box? | 17:08 |
| Yosi123 | I get this message when restarting apache2 "[warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts" | 17:09 |
| smoser | Daviey, working euca ? | 17:14 |
| Daviey | smoser, should be - working libjibx should be in the archive - as of a few mins ago | 17:15 |
| SpamapS | Yosi123: your <VirtualHost xxx> sections need xxx to be *:80 | 17:20 |
| smoser | Daviey, so there is a libjibx ? | 17:23 |
| smoser | not just a libjibx1.1 ? | 17:24 |
| smoser | do you need to rebuild euca ? | 17:24 |
| Daviey | smoser, I think it should just work - there is a meta package | 17:24 |
| smoser | ah. | 17:24 |
| smoser | ok. | 17:24 |
| Daviey | libjibx-java | 17:24 |
| Daviey | ^^ meta package to versioned package | 17:24 |
| uvirtbot | Daviey: Error: "^" is not a valid command. | 17:24 |
| Daviey | not had a chance to confirm yet.. but it should have landed within the hour | 17:24 |
| webPragmatist | can i patch this manually http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/issues/detail?id=197 | 17:25 |
| Yosi123 | SpamapS - des this look fine this is my apache2.conf http://pastebin.ca/1911072 | 17:28 |
| webPragmatist | is it possible to make dig show all the a records for a domain? | 17:29 |
| SpamapS | webPragmatist: its a harmless message | 17:29 |
| webPragmatist | SpamapS: that doesn't mean it should be allowed to fill up my logs with garbage | 17:29 |
| SpamapS | webPragmatist: if its happening a lot, then you can most certainly patch it. ;) | 17:31 |
| webPragmatist | yea it does | 17:31 |
| SpamapS | webPragmatist: looks like 3.3 came out last week | 17:31 |
| webPragmatist | http://cl.ly/48ee77b2abc8d80a11af | 17:32 |
| webPragmatist | every second for a period of times sometimes | 17:32 |
| webPragmatist | time* | 17:33 |
| webPragmatist | anyway my dig question is more important | 17:33 |
| SpamapS | webPragmatist: looks like the watch file on the mod-wsgi file is a tad broken... | 17:33 |
| SpamapS | webPragmatist: so the debian maintainer may not know that 3.3 is available | 17:33 |
| SpamapS | webPragmatist: you can certainly build your own 3.3 package and install it, which is what I'd suggest over manually patching | 17:33 |
| SpamapS | webPragmatist: unless you have a patch from somebody else that you know will work. | 17:34 |
| SpamapS | webPragmatist: dig can do an AXFR if the server allows it, but most servers do not. | 17:34 |
| SpamapS | webPragmatist: AXFR == zone transfer == "show me all your records" | 17:34 |
| webPragmatist | oh right | 17:34 |
| webPragmatist | for using failover dns | 17:35 |
| webPragmatist | or secondary dns | 17:35 |
| webPragmatist | rather | 17:35 |
| SpamapS | yes | 17:35 |
| SpamapS | tho I tend to agree with Dan Bernstein on this that AXFR is stupid and rsync over ssh is probably a better method. | 17:35 |
| webPragmatist | well it's not my dns server | 17:35 |
| SpamapS | which is why the admin probably doesn't want to show you all the records. ;) | 17:36 |
| webPragmatist | yea… i mean i could setup axfr… but for some reason i was thinking i could look up all the a records | 17:36 |
| webPragmatist | without some authoritative access | 17:36 |
| SpamapS | well some sites still do allow axfr to anybody | 17:37 |
| webPragmatist | well ours you have to setup and acl | 17:37 |
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| dclake_ | I cant connect to my ldap server I'm a newbie | 17:47 |
| webPragmatist | 4sure | 17:49 |
| zul | mathiaz: ping | 17:49 |
| mathiaz | zul: p/ | 17:49 |
| webPragmatist | SpamapS: can i not just replace python with python3 from the repo/ | 17:51 |
| SpamapS | webPragmatist: definitely not | 17:52 |
| SpamapS | webPragmatist: python3 is not entirely compatible with python2 | 17:52 |
| zul | mathiaz; do we want smbk5pwd it looks like pulling in heimdal-dev then | 17:52 |
| mathiaz | zul: smbk5pwd is not enabled in openldap now IIRC | 17:52 |
| mathiaz | zul: are you looking at enabling the overlay? | 17:53 |
| zul | mathiaz: it is | 17:53 |
| webPragmatist | SpamapS: ah i see | 17:53 |
| zul | mathiaz: in debian it is | 17:53 |
| mathiaz | zul: hm - it may have been a change in debian then | 17:53 |
| mathiaz | zul: we'd probably have to remove that build dependency then | 17:54 |
| mathiaz | zul: or check if it can be build with mit-dev instead | 17:54 |
| zul | mathiaz: k ill remove it | 17:54 |
| maek | Im trying to make a local install source for netboots from a lucid dvd I have mounted. in my apt-mirror config file I have deb file:/media/cdrom lucid main - when I run apt-mirror It says Proceed indexes: [Psh: cannot open file:/media/cdrom//dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file but that file exists and I can gunzip -c Packages.gz and see all the meta data for packages. any idea? | 17:55 |
| maek | also when I copied the dvd source and shared it via http as an install source I get the same problem. corrupt maybe? but when I install from the same dvd no problems. | 17:55 |
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| papertigers | what version of ubuntu does vmbuilder use when making a VM? | 18:06 |
| papertigers | nvm is that the suite option? | 18:06 |
| smoser | papertigers, vmbuilder runs on the host | 18:10 |
| smoser | you can specify the suite, and it will debootstrap a version of that suite. | 18:10 |
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| caps_lock | UEC, Eucalyptus in Static mode, do I set the cloud storage control to use the bridge interface, or the physical interface included in the bridge? | 18:11 |
| papertigers | smoser: okay sweet, how do you give the vm a name? | 18:11 |
| smoser | i dont know what you mean by name | 18:12 |
| smoser | "bobby" is a pretty good name | 18:12 |
| papertigers | as in virsh list shows me the vm's | 18:12 |
| papertigers | how do i set that name | 18:12 |
| smoser | i dont know. i know its in the libvirt xml. | 18:12 |
| smoser | but i dont' know if vmbuilder allows you to set that or not. | 18:12 |
| papertigers | smoser: foudn it | 18:13 |
| papertigers | in the man | 18:13 |
| papertigers | thanks | 18:13 |
| maek | maybe im going about this the wrong way. how do I take a dvd of lucid and convert it into a source I can use for network installs? | 18:17 |
| SpamapS | zul: where is the daily builds PPA for php? | 18:27 |
| zul | SpamapS: not there yet | 18:28 |
| SpamapS | zul: oh? that would be nice. ;) | 18:30 |
| zul | SpamapS: yes yes :) | 18:30 |
| ChmEarl | maek, cd /var/www; mkdir ubuntu;mount /dev/sdc /mnt/iso;cp -r /mnt/iso/* /var/www/ubuntu | 18:31 |
| ChmEarl | maek, then http://localhost/ubuntu and bliss | 18:31 |
| papertigers | does anyone know or smoser how to tell the vm disk where to go, example I want it to be on my nfs server | 18:38 |
| Guest40049 | Hi, i have a pc with ubuntu server 10.04, it ran for month (before 10.04 with 8.04) but now the pc halt at the boot start. If i boot with a liveusb it just halt after selecting language and starting the installation. I'm sure the cpu temperature is right and the rams are ok. what can be the problem? | 18:39 |
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| SpamapS | ugh.. I hate when people ask and bail in < 10 minutes | 18:50 |
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| zul | SpamapS: welcome to ubuntu ;) | 19:09 |
| zul | SpamapS: can you keep an eye on those imap patches when it goes into php's svn repo? | 19:14 |
| zul | SpamapS: its going to be a while before debian upstream is going to accept them...they havent even though of moving to 5.3.3 yet | 19:15 |
| SpamapS | zul: yeah, I am subscribed to the php bug | 19:16 |
| zul | SpamapS: k....so am i | 19:16 |
| ivoks | just one? :) | 19:16 |
| zul | well....yeah...ubuntu-server-bugs gets all of it so I see it anyhow | 19:17 |
| * zul goes back to fixing php....<meek>yay</meek> | 19:17 | |
| SpamapS | zul: the annotations patch is particularly sticky | 19:18 |
| zul | well if its all imap stuff then its not going into the the proper php package anyways | 19:18 |
| SpamapS | zul: Apparently upstream (uw-imap) won't accept annotation support until rfc5464 is ratified by the ietf | 19:19 |
| zul | SpamapS: meh | 19:19 |
| SpamapS | zul: no movement since 12/2008 .. This seems like Kolab's fight.. not ours. | 19:21 |
| zul | SpamapS: indeed...we just integrate | 19:21 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: did you see the update regarding c-client not supporting annotations? | 19:21 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: I saw that. Is c-client part of php? | 19:22 |
| Daviey | SpamapS: well if we can help poke, we should - which is what you have done :) | 19:22 |
| * ScottK mostly knows about MTAs, not IMAP. | 19:22 | |
| SpamapS | ScottK: no its the uw-imap client lib for IMAP | 19:23 |
| ScottK | Right. | 19:23 |
| ScottK | That patch is on kolab's list. | 19:23 |
| SpamapS | I'm happy to poke whoever you guys think I should poke, but I don't know if I'm sexy enough for the IETF ;) | 19:24 |
| ScottK | http://kolab.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs-kolab.cgi/server/patches/imap/ | 19:25 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: What does "ratified" mean? | 19:25 |
| ScottK | That's not an IETF term. | 19:25 |
| ScottK | If it's got an RFC number, then it's been published. | 19:25 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: meaning instead of just a draft that people are working on, it is published as an official IETF RFC | 19:26 |
| SpamapS | hm | 19:26 |
| SpamapS | so maybe it got published and nobody told uw-imap ;) | 19:26 |
| SpamapS | indeed it has been published | 19:27 |
| SpamapS | http://ietfreport.isoc.org/idref/rfc5464/ | 19:27 |
| talcite | Hey guys. I'm trying to resize a 2.5tb GPT partition into a 5tb one without destroying my data. The filesystem is OCFS2, so parted blows up when I try resize. Is there another tool I can use? | 19:27 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: It's a propsed standard, http://www.rfc-editor.org/categories/rfc-proposed.html, which in IETF terms is pretty standard. | 19:29 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: For comparison, that's as standard as RFC 2821/22. | 19:30 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: got a good primer on rfc procedures? i'm pretty ignorant on them | 19:32 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: I saw comments (I think in the Kolab vcs) that uw-imap upstream is pretty dead. If the patches are "OK" with php upstream except needing polishing for configure time check for c-client, I think it might be ~OK for us to go ahead. | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: agreed | 19:32 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: Not one that reflects reality (IETF is big on theory). Bottom line is if "proposed standard" isn't enough for uw-imap, that's just a fancy way of saying "we aren't going to do it." | 19:33 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: The other question this brings up is, "If php needs c-client at build time for this to work, how are we going to build it in php5 without putting uw-imap in Main?" | 19:34 |
| ScottK | That may be a lot harder. | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | Source: php-imap | 19:37 |
| ScottK | Ah. In Universe. Cool then. | 19:38 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 19:38 |
| SpamapS | Hmm, I wonder if I can make a collectd-plugins package like this php-imap pakage so we don't have to have all of collectd's dependencies in main | 19:52 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: You might also look at clamav and libclamunrar for example. | 19:56 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: What's the next step wrt the php packages? If I get Kolab to commit to updating the patch to provide configure time checks, is that sufficient? | 19:57 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: I think that would go a long way to helping the developers move forward. Getting c-client's upstream to wake up and take the patch would be good too. | 20:01 |
| SpamapS | I'm shocked to hear that uw-imap's development is that dead | 20:01 |
| SpamapS | if so.. then it might make sense to simply fork it and suggest to PHP that they use the kolab-c-client | 20:02 |
| ScottK | I'll let the upstream's sort that out. I don't feel guilty about patching our uw-imap in the meantime though. | 20:02 |
| RoyK | seems we might abandon our new 16 and 24 core machines in favour of GPUs | 20:06 |
| RoyK | it's bad - what are we to do with that old iron :D | 20:06 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | I'm running a couple servers with fresh installs, and having some issues with tftp-hpa | 20:08 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | it doesn't seem to log anything | 20:08 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | any idea? | 20:09 |
| ivoks | it doesn't log anything | 20:13 |
| ivoks | check /etc/default/tftpd-hpa | 20:13 |
| ivoks | you can add options to the daemon | 20:13 |
| ivoks | iirc, -v is for verbose loging | 20:14 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: I sent mail to the Kolab people. Thanks for your help in this. | 20:14 |
| ivoks | right, -vvvv should do the trick :) | 20:15 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: no problem its been fun. :) | 20:17 |
| ScottK | RoyK: You can send it to me if you want. | 20:18 |
| RoyK | hehe | 20:18 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | invoks was helpful. | 20:44 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | although apparently it is picky about where you place the -vvvv | 20:45 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | have to do it right after the file name on the exec line, or else it gets ignored | 20:45 |
| lau | hi, I want to automatically blacklist / remove a kernel module nf_nat_sip at startup | 20:49 |
| lau | I created /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-mylis.conf | 20:49 |
| lau | remove nf_nat_sip /sbin/modprobe -r nf_nat_sip | 20:50 |
| lau | is that the right way to force the kernel not to load that module ever ? | 20:50 |
| lau | (i am running lucid) | 20:50 |
| soren | No. | 20:52 |
| soren | You probably want "blacklist nf_nat_sip" | 20:52 |
| soren | What you did told modprobe to remove nf_nat_sip every time you remove nf_nat_sip :) | 20:52 |
| lau | hello soren I already tried this one but after a reboot the module was loaded :( | 20:53 |
| webPragmatist | is bind9 required? | 20:53 |
| soren | required? | 20:53 |
| soren | For what? | 20:54 |
| pwnguin | judgement call question: i have a server running 9.10. is there much benefit from waiting for 10.04.1 vs upgrading now? | 20:57 |
| SpamapS | pwnguin: yes :) | 20:57 |
| pwnguin | and that would be? | 20:57 |
| SpamapS | pwnguin: a number of bugs have been fixed mostly. | 20:58 |
| pwnguin | dont i get them from a dist-upgrade anyways? | 20:59 |
| SpamapS | pwnguin: If you have some project that is blocked on moving forward, then yeah you should update, but if you just want the latest crack.. I'm not sure there's a compelling reason to push forward. | 21:00 |
| pwnguin | 10.04 is like 3 months old now | 21:00 |
| SpamapS | pwnguin: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-10.04.1 | 21:00 |
| SpamapS | Take a look at the bugs listed there. | 21:00 |
| mathiaz | all the bugs in the list above marked as Fix Released are already in lucid now | 21:02 |
| mathiaz | the one marked as Fix Committed are currently sitting in lucid-proposed | 21:02 |
| mathiaz | pwnguin: so if you're not waiting for any bugs *not* marked as Fix Released then you can update to lucid now | 21:03 |
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| mathiaz | SpamapS: 10.04.1 is just a reroll of the isos to include the current updates in lucid | 21:03 |
| mathiaz | pwnguin: and BTW if you've kept your system already up-to-date then you'll already have all the fixes | 21:06 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: right, I guess my point is that the .1 release will have a number of bugs fixed, and if any of them might affect you, wait. :) | 21:06 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: he will? | 21:07 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: well - .1 will have all the fixes included *now* in lucid | 21:07 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: yes - we don't publish new fixes on 10.04.1 | 21:07 |
| SpamapS | SRU's go back to all releases? | 21:07 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: Point releases are just an iso respin that include all updates published in lucid | 21:07 |
| SpamapS | I guess it makes sense. | 21:07 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: when 10.04.1 is released there aren't any new updates that show up from nowhere | 21:08 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: if you've installed 10.04 and upgrades as security/SRU have been rolled out, your system will be at 10.04.1 automatically | 21:09 |
| SpamapS | no | 21:09 |
| SpamapS | he has 9.10 | 21:09 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: point releases are really about iso (ie insallation media) | 21:09 |
| SpamapS | I was offering an opinion that may not be shared by all.. | 21:09 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: well - upgrades from 9.10 to lucid include SRU and updates IIRC | 21:10 |
| SpamapS | I guess to me, point releases are rallying points for bugs to be fixed by. | 21:11 |
| SpamapS | But I concede the point that ultimately, you can upgrade at any time and get *at least* the bugs that have been released up until now. | 21:11 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: right. | 21:11 |
| SpamapS | I think we should probably *brace* for the impact of bugs from people rolling out 10.04.1 | 21:12 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: a point release in Ubuntu LTS is a rallying points for new installation | 21:12 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: what will also happen at 10.04.1 is that upgrades from Hardy the last LTS will be enabled | 21:12 |
| SpamapS | does that mean that hardy users who do dist-upgrade will get moved up to lucid? | 21:13 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: not dist-upgrade - via do-release-upgrade/update-manager | 21:13 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: dist-upgrade is not recommended to perform an upgrade in Ubuntu | 21:14 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: and dist-upgrade doesn't know about new releases | 21:14 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: (ie sources.list won't be automatically modified) | 21:14 |
| SpamapS | thats what I thought.. wasn't sure. :) | 21:14 |
| SpamapS | have never used 'do-release-upgrade' | 21:14 |
| pwnguin | mathiaz: thanks. i thought as much but figured theres an angle i havent considered | 21:15 |
| SpamapS | In Debian land we always had to go into sources.list and change "slink" to "potato" and dist-upgrade. ;) | 21:15 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: right - that's what do-release-upgrade does | 21:15 |
| pwnguin | and a few other things | 21:16 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: it also has code to handle upgrade issues that are not supported by dist-upgrade | 21:16 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: do-release-upgrade (and update-manager) can be thought as "executable release notes" | 21:16 |
| pwnguin | theres a pool of scripts it runs for no obvious place scripts | 21:16 |
| SpamapS | ah cool | 21:18 |
| SpamapS | somewhere during my webops experience I let go of ever upgrading a server again | 21:19 |
| SpamapS | current OS not doing what you want? Spin up latest stable OS that does do what you want, update config-mgmt to adapt to any changes, deploy onto new server, deprecate or reuse old server. | 21:19 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: Velcoume 2 Ze Kloud... | 21:20 |
| SpamapS | came up with a server naming scheme that supported it too.... clustername-revname-id ... so static-b-04 meant static cluster, OS rev b (CentOS 5.3 in this case), number 4 | 21:20 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: I was doing this with throw-away 1U's .. but yes.. ze kloud ist der makink it fashter | 21:21 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: so .. collectd plugins.. what would you say to splitting it into its own source package, much like php-imap does? | 21:22 |
| SpamapS | mathiaz: at issue is the list of MIR-needing libs .. if we can just leave the plugins that need those libs out of main .. *win* | 21:22 |
| maccam94 | i'm having trouble with nfs shares that mount at boot causing my system to hang | 21:31 |
| maccam94 | they are mounted at /home and /usr/local, and it looks like mountall stops the boot process when they fail to mount | 21:34 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #607665 in libaio "Invalid test case on ARM" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607665 | 21:41 |
| pwnguin | mathiaz: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.1/+bug/551130 | 21:53 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 551130 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "[SRU] infinite loop in /etc/init/mysql.conf if mysqld is not running." [High,Fix committed] | 21:53 |
| pwnguin | you know if that one's due to customization, or does it include default installs? | 21:53 |
| bogeyd6 | Can someone recommend a better guide than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding for ethernet bonding in ubuntu | 22:03 |
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| doronba | hello, anyobody has experience with installing ubuntu 9.10 on vmware esx? | 22:34 |
| doronba | performance is rather slow and i wonder if anybody encountred an issue | 22:35 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, I run it paravirtual in Xen 4.0 with good results | 22:36 |
| doronba | ChmEarl , there are probably big enough differences that it wont compare, but did you tweak any setting on it? specifically Apache is running really slow, and cant get why. | 22:38 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, what choices in tasksel? I only run lamp+ubuntu server | 22:39 |
| lowridah | can you run an pv kernel in esxi? | 22:41 |
| doronba | ChmEarl basic, lamp, openssh | 22:41 |
| doronba | lowridah i dont actually know | 22:42 |
| lowridah | i prefer xen or xenserver since i can run most linuxes in pv | 22:42 |
| lowridah | xenserver is crazy slick | 22:42 |
| doronba | lowridah i should try it, however our production farm is vmware based. | 22:43 |
| doronba | and generally it rocks, i just cant figure if the problem is lamp based or host based | 22:43 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: I've never had an Ubuntu Server upgrade go bad where I used do-release-upgrade. | 22:44 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, create this file in your www root and run apache bench http://paste.ubuntu.com/470847/ | 22:45 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, $ab -n 2000 http://localhost/test.php | 22:45 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, once it runs redirect results to a file and pastebin.ubuntu.com | 22:46 |
| doronba | ChmEarl http://paste.ubuntu.com/470848/ | 22:48 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/470850/ on a C2D 3.0 Ghz with LVM on Sata | 22:49 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, your document length should be 90kB, not 280b | 22:50 |
| doronba | ChmEarl where does it get this value then? | 22:51 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, if the doc length is 280b, then you are getting 404 | 22:51 |
| doronba | right :) | 22:52 |
| papertigers | doronba: running in KVM runs fine | 22:52 |
| doronba | sorry one sec | 22:52 |
| doronba | ChmEarl http://paste.ubuntu.com/470853/ | 22:54 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, the transfer rate is on par with 100Mb network and # of requests is OK | 22:55 |
| doronba | but it doesnt engage the network device right? | 22:57 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, but that ran on localhost... across the network will be lower | 22:57 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: Yeah, I'm not saying upgrades are bad for servers. I'm saying, in a high churn webops environment, where I've spent a large amount of my time managing servers, upgrades are sort of pointless. | 22:57 |
| doronba | ChmEarl i should test it via network see what kind of result i get | 22:58 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: I think it tends to go better in Ubuntu than other distros. For most I wouldn't even attempt it. | 22:58 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, next you can run apache bench on another VM | 22:58 |
| doronba | i think once it passes through the NIC all kinds of weird stuff happens | 22:58 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: yes, every debian shop I ever managed, (ubuntu server didn't exist back then) would always just upgrade when the stable releases arrived. | 22:59 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, run ab on another VM and point it back to your target VM | 22:59 |
| doronba | ChmEarl, yup trying to set this up | 22:59 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: but when you're scaling up and out.. and moores law means leaving a 3 year old server on *costs* you money.. upgrades are pointless. | 23:00 |
| ScottK | Right. Generally with servers as long as what you have is still supported for security, unless you need something new, staying with what's working is best. | 23:00 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: case in point, last company bought a pair of $30kUS servers for MySQL in 2005, and then in 2008, a pair of $30kUS servers for mysql.. that had *6 times the RAM* and CPU's that were 3x faster, and 2x the drive bays.. oh, and that used about 10% less power. | 23:01 |
| ScottK | Right. | 23:01 |
| SpamapS | But, if you have a flat load and are more focused around having a stable server that never goes away.. upgrades that go well are as sweet as honey. | 23:02 |
| ScottK | I have a development server that I upgrade every 6 months. The rest I just run on LTS (I have already upgraded to Lucid though). | 23:03 |
| SpamapS | yeah, traditional shops will upgrade. especially if they do something like install 6 - 9 months before LTS.. | 23:06 |
| SpamapS | If I had been evaluationg Ubuntu Server this time last year, I'd have chosen Karmic, not Hardy | 23:06 |
| SpamapS | figuring that an upgrade would be smooth and I could get the newer features that it already had. | 23:07 |
| doronba | ChmEarl http://paste.ubuntu.com/470855 | 23:07 |
| doronba | these are results from a machine on the same lan | 23:07 |
| doronba | its a jump on Timeper request | 23:08 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, 3.4 MB/s transfer is poor, but thee are no errors | 23:08 |
| doronba | yes, so my hunch is with the negotiation with the switch where the problem is | 23:09 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, for pv to pv VM I get about 28MB/s on a gb network | 23:09 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, apache2 is not the problem if a straight file transfer speed is similar | 23:10 |
| doronba | ChmEarl it is on a gb network, something is wrong with network engotiation, ill look deeper. thank you for all the help | 23:12 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, np | 23:14 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, can you tell what ethernel driver karmic uses? lsmod | 23:21 |
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| Nwallins | Hi, I used the alternate install disc for meerkat to get a minimal install | 23:24 |
| doronba | ChmEarl http://paste.ubuntu.com/470859/ results | 23:24 |
| Nwallins | but it is installing a bunch of stuff. i wasn't asked for a software selection | 23:24 |
| Nwallins | i am getting compiz, erlang, a bunch of stuff i don't want | 23:24 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, pcnet32 | 23:25 |
| Nwallins | is that the way the alternate install disc is supposed to work? | 23:25 |
| Nwallins | i really just want miminal + xorg + lxde | 23:26 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, sometimes there are other drivers which work better in karmic | 23:27 |
| doronba | ChmEarl nay tips how do i go testing this? | 23:28 |
| lowridah | Nwalins: why not install server+ubuntu-desktop? | 23:28 |
| lowridah | oh | 23:29 |
| lowridah | lxde | 23:29 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, if you can specify a driver in esx, then as long as karmic supports it, try it | 23:29 |
| wizardslovak | hello people | 23:29 |
| doronba | will give it a try | 23:29 |
| wizardslovak | is there any GUI for managing apache and samba ? | 23:30 |
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| fluvvell | gidday, I'm just doing some maintenance on friends dead pc and thought I'd boot a live 10.04 cd. It brings up a 10.04 login prompt, username of ubuntu and nothing does not log it in. Anyone seen this before? | 23:36 |
| lau | identify quiky* | 23:40 |
| ChmEarl | doronba, see post #7 here: http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1421399 they got vmxnet3 driver working | 23:41 |
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