/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/07/29/#ubuntu-sugarteam.txt

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* dipankar says hello to all03:26
dipankarlfaraone, around?03:26
lfaraonedipankar: yessir.03:30
dipankarlfaraone, I got something in flipsticks activity03:30
lfaraonedipankar: oh?03:30
dipankarlfaraone, alsroot told that the toolkit dependency is missing03:30
dipankarlfaraone, he mentioned the following:03:31
dipankar"03:31
dipankarLooks like package does not contain toolkit dependency.03:31
dipankarAnyway toolkit is out-dated and will be replaced by polyol. For now, you03:31
dipankarcan use "fully-bundled" brnach on03:31
dipankar"03:31
lfaraonealsroot: do you mean python-sugar-toolkit?03:32
dipankarlfaraone, meanwhile can you help me with this last lintian warning?03:42
dipankarhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/470501/03:42
dipankarThe package is Sugar Log Activity03:42
lfaraonedipankar: okay. did you declare DEB_SUGAR_BRANCHES in debian/rules and regen control?03:43
dipankarlfaraone, yup. here is the rules file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470502/03:44
lfaraonedipankar: you changed the name of the package in rules to sugar-log-activity-0.86 but didn't make the change to the control or changelog files.04:00
dipankarlfaraone, actually I had confusion over that.04:02
dipankarlfaraone, in the changelog: the first entry is of some other name04:03
dipankarlfaraone, shall I keep this too in the changelog:04:05
dipankar"04:05
dipankarsugar-log-activity (6-0ubuntu1) hardy; urgency=low04:05
dipankar  * Initial upload to Ubuntu04:05
dipankar -- Jani Monoses <jani@ubuntu.com>  Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:51:00 +020004:05
dipankar"04:05
dipankarI had the doubt that we are uploading the package to Debian, but this entry is for Ubuntu04:06
dipankarlfaraone, now I am having these warnings:04:11
dipankar"04:11
dipankarNow running lintian...04:11
dipankarW: sugar-log-activity-0.86 source: package-lacks-versioned-build-depends-on-debhelper 504:11
dipankarW: sugar-log-activity-0.86: unknown-locale-code mvo04:11
dipankarW: sugar-log-activity-0.86: unknown-locale-code pis04:11
dipankarW: sugar-log-activity-0.86: unknown-locale-code tzo04:11
dipankarFinished running lintian.04:11
dipankar"04:11
lfaraonedipankar: wellm, the package is based off the Ubuntu version, right?04:12
lfaraonedipankar: so it's probably okay to leave the ubuntu changes in there.04:12
dipankarok04:12
lfaraonedipankar: I think both those warnings have been discussed on the mailing list.04:12
dipankarok, I will go through the mails04:13
lfaraone.dipankar: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.laptop.olpc.debian.devel/2204:14
lfaraonedipankar: * rather, you want to read http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.laptop.olpc.debian.devel/22604:14
dipankarthanks, I was looking for ankur's query only.04:15
dipankarlfaraone, Thanks for the link05:18
lfaraonedipankar: happy to help.05:19
dipankarlfaraone, I also found the mail in which you discussed about the first warning with Jonas05:19
dipankarlfaraone, i guess you would be going to bed now05:19
lfaraonedipankar: yep, let me know if you have any questions and I'll get to them in the morning.05:20
dipankarI will make changes in the package and add it for review then but evening (IST)05:20
dipankarSee you soon05:20
dipankar:)05:20
dipankarGoodnight05:20
dfarningManusheel, good morning12:01
Manusheeldfarning: Good morning.12:02
Manusheeldipankar: Hi Dipankar.13:26
ManusheelAround?13:26
dipankarManusheel, Hello Sir13:27
Manusheeldipankar: Hello. Thanks for the e-mail to Luke.13:27
ManusheelWhere do we have a confusion?13:28
dipankarManusheel, Initially Luke told me to ask Neeraj what he did for the 0.86 & 0.88 compatibility13:28
Manusheeldipankar: Ok.13:29
dipankarwhen I asked him, he told me to change the .orig tar ball names13:29
dipankarin pristine tar branch13:29
Manusheeldipankar: Yes.13:29
ManusheelThat needs to be renamed.13:29
dipankarI have done that13:29
Manusheeldipankar: Let me send you some documentation that Kandarp and Neeraj prepared.13:30
ManusheelI hope that helps.13:30
dipankarok. That will be helpful. That might answer to my my question "Why we need to rename it there?"13:30
lfaraoneafternoon.13:32
Manusheellfaraone: Good afternoon.13:33
lfaraonedipankar: well, dpkg expects that there is a source tarball which matches the pattern <packaga name>_<version>.orig.tar.{gz, bz2, lzma} in the directory immediately above the unpacked package source.13:33
dipankarhey lfaraone, good morning13:33
lfaraonedipankar: and pristine-tar is happy to oblidge by generating such a tarball using the stored tarball information it carrys in the git pristine-tar branch.13:33
lfaraonedipankar: thanks.13:33
lfaraonedipankar: so when it notices that it can't find such a file, either because you haven't imported the tarball or becasue the tarball name does not match the package name, it errors out.13:34
dipankarlfaraone, if you could pull in my pristine branch of log activity: http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-log-activity.git;a=shortlog13:34
dipankarThere are two different names in the pristine branch13:35
dipankarlfaraone, I am getting these in listing:13:36
dipankar"13:36
dipankardipankar@dipankar-laptop:~/sugar-log-activity$ ls13:36
dipankardebian13:36
dipankarlocale13:36
dipankarsugar-logviewer-activity_23.orig.tar.bz2.delta13:36
dipankarsugar-logviewer-activity_23.orig.tar.bz2.id13:36
dipankarsugar-logviewer-activity_6.orig.tar.gz.delta13:36
dipankarsugar-logviewer-activity_6.orig.tar.gz.id13:36
dipankar"13:36
lfaraonedipankar: right. why do you think there are two files each with each listed version?13:37
lfaraoneor even two versions at all.13:38
Manusheellfaraone: Will it be possible for you to review record, jigsaw puzzle and irc?13:38
lfaraoneManusheel: Yes.13:38
Manusheellfaraone: Thank you. Appreciate your support.13:38
dipankarlfaraone, is it due to different extension? I am not sure though13:40
dipankarBut that doesn't make sense13:40
dipankar:(13:40
dipankarlfaraone, is it due to the fact that I imported v23 in the existing v6 of the activity?13:40
lfaraonedipankar: yeah.13:41
dipankarlfaraone, Then I made some mistake in importing :(13:42
lfaraonedipankar: there's no real reason to remove the old versions, since they take up almost zero disk space as is.13:42
lfaraonedipankar: no, that's not a problem to have more than one.13:42
dipankarlfaraone, then they are supposed to be coming like this only?13:42
dipankarI mean when I further upgrade, they will keep on adding the tar balls?13:43
lfaraonedipankar: take a look at the pristine-tar branch of sugar-0.8813:43
lfaraonedipankar: http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/pristine-tar;hb=pristine-tar13:44
dipankar* ohk I get it.13:44
dipankarHUGE list13:44
lfaraonedipankar: yeah. the reason you're getting an error is because there's no sugar-logviewer-activity-0.86_23.orig.tar.bz2.{delta,id}.13:45
dipankarlfaraone, shall I rename it then?13:45
lfaraonedipankar: so the easiest way is to git mv the files (only of the latest version, mind you, no real need to touch the other two) to the "proper" name.13:46
dipankar*I remember changing it though13:46
lfaraonedipankar: yes. I think there's a post by me that covers that on one of the lists.13:46
Manusheellfaraone: Did you get a chance to look at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-sugarteam/2010-July/002015.html? Is there a tutorial on syncing Debian packages to Ubuntu 10.10?13:47
Manusheellfaraone: We would like to get started on it.13:47
dipankarlfaraone, Now I remember. I was having a confusion whether to put version number in the name!13:47
lfaraoneManusheel: I have not looked at it yet, but looking at it now, it's a very good example of a sync request. Granted, the explanation could be a bit more... explanaining, but c'est la vie.13:48
Manusheellfaraone: Yes, it is indeed a good example of sync request. Some more explanation would be hellpful.13:49
lfaraoneManusheel: I talked to kandarpk about it yesterday, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/07/28/%23ubuntu-sugarteam.html#t17:0513:50
lfaraoneManusheel: but, in all honesty, 'requestsync' makes it so dead simple that there's not much space to mess up :)13:51
Manusheellfaraone: Thank you. This is a very good starting point.13:51
Manusheellfaraone: yes :-) Completely agree.13:52
dipankarlfaraone, just a question: The activity name was changed to Log from Logviewer. So, shouldn't I change it to : sugar-log-activity-0.86_23.orig.tar.bz2.{delta,id}.13:53
lfaraonedipankar: yes.13:53
dipankarok13:53
dipankarlfaraone, how do I commit these changes? -- Return back to master branch and run " git commit -a"?13:55
lfaraonedipankar: no, you'll commit them in the pristine-tar branch.13:56
dipankarok13:56
lfaraonedipankar: since it's  a git mv command, the changes area automatically staged, so you don't need to use -a13:56
dipankaroops I missed git in git mv :(13:56
dipankarthen I think I need to run git commit -a13:57
dipankarlfaraone, I have pushed the changes to git repo14:00
lfaraonedipankar: does the package build?14:00
dipankarjust a sec14:01
dipankaroh no. It didnot work14:01
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dipankarlfaraone, here is the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470692/14:03
dipankarI tried running "clean command"14:04
dipankarbut also didn't work14:04
lfaraonedipankar: what does "git rm debian/sugar-log-activity -r" do for you?14:09
dipankarlfaraone, the o/p: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470695/14:09
lfaraonedipankar: cool, somehow those files got added. git commit that and try building again.14:11
dipankarlfaraone, how come they were there? I ran "fakeroot debian/rules clean" :(14:12
dipankarbefore building package14:12
lfaraonedipankar: because those files are from an interrupted pacakage build, they should have been automatically removed.14:13
dipankarlfaraone, still the same: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470696/14:14
lfaraonedipankar: no, it's different.14:14
lfaraonedipankar: in this case, the only real error is line 5.14:14
dipankarok :)14:14
lfaraonedipankar: it's saying you have a binary file which shouldn't be there.14:14
dipankarlfaraone, there are two files in the tree source though14:15
dipankarhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/470699/14:16
dipankarlfaraone, ^^ the {delta,id} files shouldn't be here I guess14:16
dipankarthe were originally not there14:16
lfaraonedipankar: right. they're supposed to be in the pristine-tar only14:17
dipankaryeah14:17
dipankarlfaraone, shall I remove them then?14:17
lfaraonedipankar: yes.14:18
dipankarlfaraone, great! now it is running14:20
dipankarlfaraone, btw did you get a chance to check the e-mail I sent today? It was regarding the lintian warnings only14:21
dipankari am still getting these:14:22
dipankar"14:22
dipankarNow running lintian...14:22
dipankarW: sugar-log-activity-0.86 source: package-lacks-versioned-build-depends-on-debhelper 514:22
dipankarW: sugar-log-activity-0.86: unknown-locale-code mvo14:22
dipankarW: sugar-log-activity-0.86: unknown-locale-code pis14:22
dipankarW: sugar-log-activity-0.86: unknown-locale-code tzo14:22
dipankarFinished running lintian.14:22
dipankar"14:22
dipankarlfaraone, From the mails and links, I think I can safely ignore them.14:22
lfaraonedipankar: yes.14:22
dipankarlfaraone, shall I assume, the Log-activity is now properly packaged?14:24
dipankar:P14:24
lfaraonedipankar: you know what they say about when you assume...14:25
lfaraone:)14:25
dipankarlfaraone, ohk :) I have marked it for review on Sugar/tasks14:26
dipankarlfaraone, Now I should move to Flipsticks-activity14:30
dipankaralsroot, hi, you around?14:30
alsrootdipankar: yup14:31
dipankaralsroot, it would be great if you could explain you reply a bit more to the flipsticks startup problem query...14:32
dipankar"14:32
dipankarLooks like package does not contain toolkit dependency.14:32
dipankarAnyway toolkit is out-dated and will be replaced by polyol. For now, you14:32
dipankarcan use "fully-bundled" brnach on14:32
dipankar"14:32
dipankaralsroot, lfaraone was asking about whether it is python-sugar-toolkit.14:33
alsrootdipankar: the thing is, I was experimenting w/ 0sugar e.g. tried to create "smart" bundles (they contained 0isntall implementations per arch etc.) and toolkit (not python-sugar-toolkit) dependency was bundled in such way14:34
alsroot..for now, you can just use fully-bundled branch or tarball to follow regular packaging procedures (w/o any 0sugar)14:37
dipankaralsroot, I actually used the tarball, debianized the folder and then tried building the package14:37
dipankarthe package builds properly14:38
dipankarbut the activity after installation doesn't work14:38
lfaraonedipankar: right, because it depends on something that isn't packaged yet.14:39
lfaraonedipankar: so alsroot is suggesting to instead source your work from a branch which contains the something, embedded.14:39
lfaraonealsroot: is it infeasable to package the toolkit separately, not worth doing, or what?14:39
alsrootlfaraone: toolkit dependecy is obsolete and will be replaced by the same polyol14:40
kandarpklfaraone, dfarning: Good morning14:40
kandarpkdipankar: hi14:40
alsrootkandarpk: so, for now, it will be easier to use just bundled version14:40
alsrootlfaraone: ^14:40
dipankarkandarpk, hi :)14:40
lfaraonealsroot: right, makes sense. should we hold off on flipsticks until then, rather than embed a bundled version?14:41
lfaraonehey kandarpk .14:41
kandarpkalsroot: hi14:41
* lfaraone thinks that might be the best route.14:41
kandarpklfaraone: have you updated the initial-debianization tarball ?14:42
lfaraonekandarpk: no, I haven't.14:42
lfaraonekandarpk: personally, although the tarball is a good start, I usually like to begin from the debian/ of an existing package that does what I want already.14:42
kandarpklfaraone: Ok, but weren't you planning to update it ?14:43
alsrootlfaraone: the thing is, polyol, itself, is not yet released, and its python API is different, I was planing to support current API only in polyol-2 (i.e. not right tomorrow :)14:43
kandarpklfaraone: I've to document the steps involved in packaging14:44
lfaraonealsroot: okay, well, no rush.14:44
lfaraonedfarning: rather than bundling toolkit, I think it might be a good idea just to hold off on flipsticvks.14:44
dipankarlfaraone, I guess that was for me ^^14:45
dipankar:P14:45
lfaraonedfarning: thoughts?14:46
lfaraonedfarning: well, I'm asking dfarning whether he's okay with taht.14:46
dipankarok14:46
* dipankar is away: Be Right Back14:59
caroline_good morning14:59
caroline_was someone looking for me?14:59
* ankur_ says net connectivity is not good due to rains and might get disconnected15:02
ankur_hi lfaraone15:02
ankur_around>?15:03
lfaraonealsroot: yes.15:03
ankur_lfaraone,  well i needed to do some changes to irc activity15:04
lfaraoneankur_: okay.15:04
ankur_what i need to do is now to undo the change made15:05
ankur_to15:05
ankur_git15:05
ankur_package15:05
lfaraoneuh?15:05
ankur_actually i did some changes to source code by changing execute bits of four file15:05
lfaraoneankur_: right, that's not terrible. you can undo it easily.15:07
* dipankar is back (gone 00:10:51)15:09
* dipankar suggests ankur_ to get some other isp15:10
dipankarlfaraone, so we have to halt on flipsticks?15:10
lfaraonedipankar: I guess so, for now.15:12
dipankarlfaraone, any other activity that needs attention? I can help in that.15:12
dfarninglfaraone, plus one to flipsticks15:17
dfarninglfaraone, plus one to flipsticks15:17
lfaraonedfarning: mk.15:20
lfaraonedipankar: I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I don't have anything for you at the moment :)15:20
dipankarohk :)15:20
* lfaraone is taking a 15 minute brunch.15:32
* lfaraone returned.15:38
dfarningdipankar, are you out of things to work on?15:39
dfarningdipankar, are you out of things to work on?15:39
dipankardfarning, I am helping ankur with paint-activity and also starting with documentation on packaging activities15:40
dfarningvery weird I am using ubuntu 10.10 and xchat sometime douple posts things:)15:40
dipankarI thought ankur could use a helping hand15:40
dipankar:)15:40
dipankardfarning, yeah, i was also observing that. Pretty weird15:41
dfarningdipankar, very nice as soon as possiable we should move the documentaion on packaging activities to the wiki15:41
dipankarsure15:42
lfaraonedfarning: re surf, surf depends on python-gi, but when python-gi is installed sugar-emulator crashes.15:42
dfarningdipankar, thanks we want every one to benifit from the documentation you guys are writing.15:43
dfarninglfaraone, what looks like the best way forward?15:43
lfaraonedfarning: file a bug against sugar and hope there's someone smart enough to know the solution :)15:44
dfarninglfaraone, +1 and can you ask rgs_ to look at it.  he is on a hacker retreat so can dig into hard problems like this:)15:45
lfaraonewill do.15:46
dfarninglfaraone, thanks15:46
lfaraonedfarning: bug reported, should be arriving in mailboxes soonish.15:49
lfaraonergs_: poke.15:49
dipankarlfaraone, dfarning : Ankur's internet is giving trouble due to the heavy rains that took place here15:49
lfaraonedipankar: yeah, he told me.15:49
dipankar* He told me to convey this msg :)15:49
dfarningdipankar, thanks it will take a while to work out the kinks as people move and go mack to school.15:51
lfaraonedfarning: don't worry, you'll have me for another month15:51
dfarninglfaraone, thanks15:51
dipankardfarning, yeah . lfaraone is here to handle the things :P15:51
dipankarjust kidding15:51
dipankarWe just need sometime to work things out15:52
dipankar:)15:52
dipankarThen we will back in full15:52
dipankarlfaraone, you mentioned shell.log attached in the mail in mailing list. But I didn't find any.15:54
dipankardo I need to open any link to get that shell.log?15:54
lfaraonedipankar: oops, thanks for the catch.15:54
dipankarnp, glad I went through the mail15:55
* lfaraone is off, talk to you in the PM.15:57
manusheelkandarpk: Hi kandarp.16:08
manusheelAround16:08
manusheel?16:08
kandarpkmanusheel sir: yes sir.16:08
manusheelkandarpk: Did you get a chance to talk to Dipankar and Neeraj on figuring out how to request for review at tasks page?16:09
kandarpkmanusheel sir: Sir, I got it myself, just had to add some comment after making changes.16:11
kandarpkmanusheel sir: I've added info. regarding speak there16:11
manusheelkandarpk: Great.16:13
manusheelThat is neat.16:13
manusheellfaraone: Hi Luke.16:47
manusheelAround?16:47
manusheelneeraj: Hi Neeraj.16:48
manusheelAround?16:48
neerajmanusheel sir: yes16:53
manusheelneeraj: Did we test hello mesh package?16:53
manusheelWhat were the results?16:53
neerajmanusheel: I asked kandarp sir whether he knew how to connect our sugar and test the package..16:55
neerajdipankar: Do u have ny idea how can we do that?16:55
manusheeldipankar: around?16:57
manusheelneeraj: Send an e-mail to Tomeu about it.17:02
manusheelCopy Dipankar, me and Kandarp on it.17:02
manusheelneeraj: I would like you to get familiar with two things today -17:04
manusheelUbuntu bug tracker.17:04
manusheel2. v17:05
manusheelhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess17:05
dfarningmanusheel, please cc the sugar team mailing list.  Tomeu would prefer to answer questions on public lists rather than private mails.17:05
neerajmanusheel sir: Ok.. I will leave for  dinner now and look at the above two things..17:06
neerajbrb in 10-15 min17:06
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manusheeldfarning: +117:08
manusheelThank you for the pointer.17:08
manusheelPlease let me know.17:11
manusheellfaraone: Did you get a chance to review Record, jigsaw puzzle and IRC today?17:11
rgs_lfaraone: interesting. will look into it later.17:13
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* dipankar is back from dinner17:34
dipankarmanusheel, Sir, I was off to have dinner17:34
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dipankarneeraj, you around17:35
dipankar?17:35
neerajdipankar: yes17:35
dipankarneeraj, what were you asking?17:36
dipankarregarding connecting the activity..17:36
neerajdipankar: I was saying that do u know how we can share activity online?17:37
neerajactivities running in our sugar-emulator17:37
dipankarneeraj, its the same with every activity17:37
dipankar:17:37
dipankarthere will be a circle with one dot in it17:37
dipankaron the top menu17:37
dipankarin the activity17:37
neerajdipankar: yes but if u share an activity17:38
dipankarclick on it and check the neighbourhood option17:38
dipankarok17:38
neerajthen how can I see it?.. we need to be connected to same server.. no?17:38
dipankaryup17:39
neerajdipankar: lets try using this http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_Jabber_Servers17:40
dipankarfor that we need to be on same server17:40
dipankarneeraj_, use the first one:17:41
dipankarjabber.laptop.org17:41
dipankarI am on the ^^ server through emulator.17:42
neeraj_dipankar, I have also added this server17:44
dipankarbut I see nobody!17:45
dipankarneeraj_, are you finding anybody online?17:45
dfarningmanusheel, lets package exelearning for debain and ubutu it should be pretty straight forward.17:45
dfarningmanusheel, the source is at http://exelearning.org/wiki17:46
neeraj_dipankar, no..17:59
dipankarneeraj_, I need to head to bed18:00
* dipankar says good night and great day to all18:00
lfaraonemanusheel: I didn't review IRC because no review was requested.22:44
dfarning_lfaraone can you take a look at EXE learning and see if it would be possiable to package?  http://exelearning.org/wiki22:53
* lfaraone looks.22:54
* lfaraone will be back, going on the rocks.22:54

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