[00:04] <tonyyarusso> yup
[05:21] <Takyoji> So, boys and girls
[05:21] <Takyoji> I'll be getting a new phone.
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> oh?  what?
[05:22] <Takyoji> I haven't decided on the specific model
[05:22] <Takyoji> Specifically Verizon as a provider
[05:23] <kermit> n900
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> N900 doesn't work on Verizon kermit (or else I'd probably have one)
[05:24] <kermit> change providers then
[05:24] <kermit> :P
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> The other providers have crappy coverage.
[05:25] <Takyoji> and I have 5 choices: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneOverviewByDevice&deviceType=3G%20Smartphones#
[05:26] <kermit> you must buy it from them?
[05:26] <Takyoji> Those are the choices as of Android-based options
[05:27] <Takyoji> I'd assume that if you bought the phone directly from a vendor it'd be full price..
[05:27] <Takyoji> rather than being a deducted upfront cost with a 2-year contract
[05:27] <Takyoji> My only reason for a smartphone would be for SSH and a web browser
[05:28] <Takyoji> and perhaps some web development
[05:28] <Takyoji> and could use GPS in some cases
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: sounds like either the Droid Incredible or Droid X.
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> I wouldn't count on any of them for GPS though - I have little confidence phone GPS is any good.
[05:33] <Takyoji> GPS is non-essential to me
[05:38] <Takyoji> I think I might just choose "LG Ally"
[05:39] <Takyoji> Most battery life, cheaper, QWERTY keyword, touchscreen, though just a 600MHz processor in comparison to the others which are 1GHz
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: http://blogs.computerworld.com/16608/dell_expands_ubuntu_linux_desktop_offerings
[06:22] <Takyoji> Saw it
[06:23]  * tonyyarusso does a tiny "I told you so" dance
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> Not that you argued with me or anything, but hey
[06:30] <Takyoji> HDMI connection on a friggen smartphone, that's just insane..
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> saywhatnow?  That's crazy.
[06:33] <Takyoji> http://static.arstechnica.com/droidx/droidx_review_leftside.jpg
[06:41] <Takyoji> Yay for the Android SDK
[06:41] <Takyoji> Isn't Android purely Java?
[06:41] <Takyoji> Ahh, C/C++ for the core, Java for the UI
[07:14] <Takyoji> So are most of you skeptical against GNOME 3? :P
[07:14] <Takyoji> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/07/gnome-3-not-ready-yet-release-pushed-back-to-2011.ars
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> lol
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> anyone interested in purchasing a ThinkPad with an intermittent hardware issue?
[07:32] <Takyoji> What model? :P
[07:32] <Takyoji> also, what hardware issue? :P
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: T43
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> I think there's either a slight crack in the motherboard or a solder connection or something like that.
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> It will occasionally become non-responsive, but either whacking it, rocking it back and forth, or pressing gently on the right side of the wrist rest makes it go again.
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> I should probably pull it apart to see if it's something obvious first, but it is getting close to time for a new laptop anyway.
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> I wonder if the hard drive just got unseated or something
[07:43] <Takyoji> I really need to donate to Wikipedia; it's like a crucial part of my life as an information repository
[08:00] <Takyoji> Does VMs in QEMU typically appear a little slow ever?
[08:00] <Takyoji> I feel like I'm getting like 10fps as of this Android VM
[08:00] <Takyoji> through the Android Emulator; which is basically QEMU supposedly
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> yes
[08:52]  * tonyyarusso pulled it apart a bit, put it back together, making sure everything looked clean and tight
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> Booted on the first try, so that's a pretty big improvement.
[08:53] <kermit> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoization http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/?&fq&fq[]=trove:679
[08:55]  * Takyoji fails to catch what relevance Tivozation has to the second provided URL
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> And I can type without pausing to press the palmrest to make things appear on the screen - yay!
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> Appears to at least be temporarily resolved.
[08:56] <kermit> the second URL is a sourceforge search for GPLv3 projects
[08:56] <kermit> unless the link didnt work for you.. try this one http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/?&fq&fq%5B%5D=trove:679
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> You know, I would like using the GPL a lot more if it weren't so *long*.
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> I mean, it kind of requires a largish project to feel like it's even worth the bit-space for the text.
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: even though it works now, I could see myself selling this in the nearish future if you were interested.
[08:59] <Takyoji> GPL v3 has provisions avoiding the possibility of Tivoization, correct?
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> yes
[09:02] <Takyoji> So I take it the licenses you prefer, are ones that aren't "free software licenses"? :P
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> hrm?  Why would you say that?
[09:02] <kermit> haha like the BSD license?  it has its uses i guess
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> the BSD license is a free software license.
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> (I actually like the terms of the GPL, just not the verbosity)
[09:03] <Takyoji> ahh, it's the modified BSD license that's GPL-approved
[09:03] <Takyoji> The original wasn't
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> well yeah, the original was dumb, and has been retracted by its author.
[09:04] <Takyoji> I'm trying to remember, Apache licensing has something against abusing software patents, correct?
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> I think so, yes.
[09:12]  * Takyoji leaves for the night
[09:12] <kermit> "patent retalliation"