[00:00] teamcoltra, I think that's the directory encyption app. I was having that issue too, I disabled it as it's really annoying. Im not sure of it's a bug or not, but seems to be, you should report the bug and your issue. [00:00] whiteknight: I personally use EPSON and it works great, but I've heard HP has better linux support [00:00] <^^Earth^^> I keep loosing the frame around my program boxes, someone got a clue whats going on :-) === bruno is now known as Guest51376 [00:01] should I just try to install xboxdrv from their PPA? [00:01] whiteknight, HP fer sure, as for models, look at which ones support Linux to save yourself further frustration. [00:02] When i try to open chromium tells me this: Your profile could not be opened correctly. [00:02] Some features may be unavailable. Please check that the profile exists and you have permission to read and write its contents. [00:02] why? [00:02] mikeru, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/3dxb4Fje [00:02] Thanx bunch, I have a brothers printer. not sure if it is still working...is is a possibility? [00:02] And why do i have so much LAG? [00:02] linguini: Wut? Intel? [00:02] whiteknight, brother for me has been hit and miss [00:03] mikeru, The monitor is a sony, the desktop is an old dell dimension 2400 [00:03] well that was cute, i just did a fresh install then shutdown the machine and attached it to a kvm switch & diff monitor [00:03] i'm sorry, I know not of Intel's GAs. however, many people do, so just ask for help with Intel graphics card [00:03] booted it up and i couldn't login anymore cuz of a graphics problem [00:03] it kept kicking me back out to the login screen until i went into recovery mode and reset the resolution [00:04] well, I got one error done [00:04] on the ubuntu forums, is there anyway to reset your password if you cant remember your email you set it up with? [00:04] whiteknight, No idea about Brothers Printers. GO to their site and lookup the model, and see if it supports Linux, else, google Linux Support for the model you have. [00:04] Keiha Thank you [00:04] but I still dont know why I get script.sh: line 11 :/dir is a directory [00:04] I know it is! [00:04] if i'd never guessed it was a gfx/res problem there'd been no hope of knowing what the cause was [00:04] i just happened to have a hunch [00:04] but the script I downloaded said to use it [00:04] hi how to remove libamd2.2.0 [00:04] the_e: It's just telling you it is ;) [00:05] so then it worked? [00:05] the_e: what does the script say [00:05] * whiteknight is away: Gotta to get ready for work..Thanks to all [00:05] thats all it says [00:05] the_e: most probably it didn't [00:05] the_e: pastebin it [00:05] h/o [00:05] How can I get better display support (resolution higher than 800x600)? I'm using an intel graphics card? [00:06] http://pastbin.com/VLj56pbG [00:06] had somebody used rabbitvcs? [00:06] ugh, its pastebin.com [00:06] linguini, install the right driver >> Chage the desktop res >> edit xorg.conf or upgrade the Graphics card. [00:07] not pastbin [00:07] Also, when I open "Display Properties" my monitor is listed as "Unknown" and I see a pink tag with "Unknown" on the upper left hand corner of my screen. I'm not sure if this is because my graphics card or monitor itself. [00:07] http://pastebin.com/VLj56pbG [00:07] hola? [00:07] linguini: a most stupid solution but still could fix the problem, go to System -> Preferences -> Display [00:07] change the resolution [00:07] !es [00:07] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [00:07] sokka: adios [00:08] sokka: habla en ingles o hasle caso a ubottu [00:08] mikeru, this is not polite [00:08] cablop: sorry [00:08] the_e, is Line 7 Correct ? [00:08] mikeru, The monitor is listed as unknown, and it won't let me change to a resolution higher than 800x600. [00:08] oooh [00:08] ok [00:08] KE1HA, Thanks, Any idea how I get the right driver..? [00:08] yep [00:09] I dont know why its like that but it is [00:09] and sokka, you can go to #ubuntu-es for help, puedes ir a #ubuntu-es por ayuda [00:09] ^^Earth^^: it is likely a compiz related issue, you could disalbe compiz or see this thread for all the possible suggestions (post #19 is what worked for the OP): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112214 "titlebar compiz ubuntu" are the keywords for your issue. [00:09] I apparently have 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE [00:09] i dont need help i just was bored and i joined to see what is going on here :P [00:09] hello? [00:09] someone can help me please? [00:09] linguini: i think it is more a video driver issue than a monitor isue, my monitor is listed as unknown and gives me 1440x900 [00:09] leecheva: HI? [00:10] mikeru: hi [00:10] cablop: but it is Nvidia, right? === masen is now known as masen_away [00:10] mikeru: it sounds to me like the monitor has a bad EDID more than anything [00:11] nvidia drivers will always report unknown, even if they know, and a wrong Hz. you can "Option DisableTwinView True" and it will then fix that, but nvidia's x util won't work anymore [00:11] the script is supposed to start the xboxdrv driver [00:11] the_e, seem it's not fiding the source ..._.VL file to me, why I dont know, are you in the right dir when you execute it? [00:11] <^^Earth^^> thune3: Thanks.... :-) [00:11] now, moving on to the real problem [00:11] WHY DO I HAVE SO MUCH LAG!? [00:11] linguini: look at UkeKun [00:11] cablop, Ah, thanks. That helps some... [00:11] Is it Ubuntu about to crash!? [00:11] Ubuntus: CAN YOU NOT HAZ CAPSLOCK PLZ [00:11] can help me please? [00:12] mikeru: Well, i need to take out my stress somehow [00:12] KE1HA, yes I am using the directory encryption app too... honestly I feel that privacy outweighs convenience so I will keep it... but there should be a bug report for it [00:12] i need to express myself [00:12] the_e, it looks like the is the file yes? : boxdrv_for_XBMC_live.v1 the [ optins ] etc etc [00:12] leecheva: well, if you told us what's your problem... [00:12] Some features may be unavailable. Please check that the profile exists and you have permission to read and write its contents. [00:12] I am trying to limit the speed of scp (so it doesn't use all the bandwidth) I am using the command .... scp -l 2 ndugan@office:/tmp/wholesale.sql.gz /tmp/wholesale.sql.gz ... but the speed is still 10 - 16 KB/s :( ... what is going on? [00:12] leecheva: asking for help is not going to help [00:12] linguini: yes i have an Nvidia card [00:12] KE1HA: ? [00:13] teamcoltra, yes, I agree, I think it's a bug too. [00:13] I c/ped the file and then pasted what I got from terminal [00:13] UkeKun, is there a way to confirm a bad EDID without freezing my system? [00:13] im trying to install kubuntu but when i put isntall my monitor turn off and it say out of range i dont know what to do [00:13] cablop: ... [00:13] 1-11 is the script, 14-19 is the terminal === alerpiz is now known as alper [00:13] the_e, sri, to many irons in the fire here. Ok, it's looking for a file to run, but somehow it's only getting to the dir level. [00:13] sorry, i just moved and maybe i lost th thread [00:13] because there is no file to run, lol [00:13] I suspect it has to do with the EXPORT=. [00:13] doesn't matter [00:14] the folder contains everything needed for xboxdrv [00:14] if there is an easier way to install it, by all means tell me [00:14] apparently all I need to do is install xboxdrv [00:14] this is just *an easy* way to do it [00:14] with a half-written guide [00:14] mikeru, yup, an nvidia one, but the nvidia driver is not an isue :P [00:14] linguini if you have a windows install you can use MonitorInfoView GUI from Nirsoft [00:14] I added the PPAs but can't find the package in software center [00:14] what driver do i need to get my via technologies vga card working? display is fine really just no ability to run desktop effects [00:15] cablop: of course it isn't. after all, nouveau is still quite behind [00:15] question: "KERNEL=="loop*", ENV{DKD_PRESENTATION_HIDE}=1" doesnt seem to work.. any hints [00:15] ? [00:15] i'm using the propietary driver anyway :P [00:15] T_T === Vespero is now known as Nanashi [00:16] cablop: I just commented however that adding that specific line in xorg.conf will fix the reporting of the refresh rate and the monitor's name [00:16] Mr_Sonoma: i think you need to try with the VIA provider... but i barely believe a VIA will support desftop effects, not beyong metacity [00:16] help? === Nanashi is now known as Vespero [00:17] cablop, thanks [00:17] WUT WAS THAT? [00:17] what thing? [00:17] hey there [00:17] lol irc mombo jumbo :-) [00:17] testing testing [00:17] DIRTY TRICKS [00:17] I am trying to limit the speed of scp (so it doesn't use all the bandwidth) I am using the command .... scp -l 2 ndugan@office:/tmp/wholesale.sql.gz /tmp/wholesale.sql.gz ... but the speed is still 10 - 16 KB/s :( ... what is going on? [00:17] :( [00:17] FML! [00:17] SCAREZ ME [00:18] mikeru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:18] they made a change in the matrix, i guess [00:18] ooh, that explains the deja vu [00:18] XD [00:18] how is it that I added a repository but can't find any of it's packages anywhere? [00:18] UkeKun, I do have windows; I'll make a note of that... [00:18] im trying to install kubuntu but when i put isntall my monitor turn off and it say out of range i dont know what to do? [00:19] neil_d, http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/cmd.csp?path=s/scp [00:19] Also, I think I may be hitting http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/the-dreaded-82845g-intel-integrated-graphics-does-any-linux-work-with-it-802465/ [00:19] linguini I had a similar problem with a HDTV except it was windows which didn't like the EDID, linux was fine with it [00:19] neil_d, use the -l flag to: Limit bandwidth used, specified in kilobits/second. [00:20] the_e: have you reloaded the packageinformation, and you verified what packages that should appear by going there to that repository with a webbrowser? [00:20] if the 'post-start script' in an upstart job fails, will that kill the 'main process' (the process started by the 'exec' stanza)? [00:20] KE1HA: yes I read the manpage ... but the -l didn't seem to limit the speed. [00:20] no, because im working between 2 computers [00:21] how big of file are you transferring / ho long does it take? Small files will just blast through, even with limit. [00:21] i just did though and no dice [00:21] KE1HA: 6.1MB === curtis is now known as Guest53811 [00:22] how do I check a PPA from a webbrowser?\ [00:22] neil_d, so what are you seeing on your bandwidth monitor? Is it maxing out your available BW ? [00:23] If you have a really big file, you can use the split command to break it up, then reassemble it after moving it. Run "man split" in a terminal to find out more. [00:23] to have flash-cookies deleted each time I run firefox I changed the command for the firefox-command in the Program menu to bash -c 'rm -rf ~/.adobe; rm -rf ~/.macromedia; firefox %u' instead of just firefox %u are there any bad side effects by doing this, or are there a better way to do this? [00:23] KE1HA: found the problem... the rate display of scp needs time to settle... leave it run for a while and the rate comes down. [00:23] My ubuntu machine is connected to the internet using a wireless card, can I give a windows machine internet access by connecting the two computers together with a ethernet cable and then do what? === MK-BB is now known as MK|BNC [00:24] neil_d, rr. good, glad you got it sorted. [00:25] anyone else been having problems with mysql not starting on boot? [00:25] im really starting to lose faith in Ubuntu, between driver madness, GNOME wonkiness...its just not worth it [00:25] nwidger: which problem specifically, are there multiple reasons for something like that [00:26] kde is the solution to gnome wonkiness [00:26] KDE is even uglier [00:26] kde... [00:26] maco: BLASPHEMY [00:26] nwidger, yes, i was workign with a fell a little while ago, but he left the channel before he posted his final results. [00:26] I don't know why they just dont work on one [00:26] im moving my installation from one drive to anther, but grub is failing to install [00:26] mikeru: im a kubuntu user :P [00:26] the_e: ask the gnome people. kde was around first [00:26] maco: /join #kubuntu : ) [00:26] the_e: I think you should normally be able to just enter the ppa-address in the webbrowser, for example http://ppa.launchpad.net/durmieu/ppa/ubuntu and ther follow the links to dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/ [00:26] mikeru: im in there [00:27] mikeru: im an op in both channels [00:27] ah [00:27] KE1HA: ok, well my problem is that mysql does not start on boot, even though its upstart config file /etc/init/mysql.conf is untouched [00:27] op? [00:27] maco: oh, you're an op ? interesting! [00:27] KE1HA: i dont see any errors in log files [00:27] anyway, KDE is weird [00:27] cablop: operator...like a moderator...i can remove people who misbehave [00:27] the_e, the divers issues are generic to Ubuntu I can assure you on that one. [00:27] T_T [00:27] KE1HA: nothing in /var/log/messages, syslog or daemon.log [00:27] yeah [00:27] but GNOME issues aren't :-P [00:27] i have sda1 as boot and sda5 as encrypted root ...all files are intact, i just need to reninstall the MBR grub-install fails [00:27] like duplicating items [00:28] the PPA wants me to register [00:28] KE1HA: and i can start it manually with 'sudo start mysql' post-boot and that works fine. it just doesnt seem to start on bootup. [00:28] if i had to compare gnome and KDE i'll say that gnome is anorexic a kde is bullimic [00:28] hello, my grub slipped up...I'm dual-booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu and after i leave windows to boot into Ubuntu the GRUB messes up...can somebody help me fix frub [00:28] nwidger, can you manually start / stop it with init.d ? [00:28] I like both KDE and GNOME... but I prefere GNOME. they have their goods and downsides [00:28] cablop: indeed [00:28] but [00:28] then [00:28] XFCE IS WUT? [00:28] KE1HA: it's been ported over to an upstart job, so the init.d scripts are gone. it should be started by init from /etc/init/mysql.conf [00:28] xfce is a wannabe [00:28] XD [00:28] XFCE is a sad state of affairs [00:29] wannabe anorexic? that's sad xd [00:29] LOL .. sri you beat me too it. Check that the service is installed properly with update-rc.d [00:29] nah, yup [00:29] no way to disable double tap clicking? [00:29] !xfce [00:29] that was the one thing that made me switch back to Ubuntu [00:29] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [00:29] xfce is just the pure bones witha little skin on them [00:29] KE1HA: why would i need scripts to be installed in /etc/init.d if it's supposed to be an upstart job. [00:29] the_e: like in trackpad? [00:29] gnome has more flesh, but no enough organs [00:29] mikeru: anorexic jokes not appreciated... [00:29] yeah [00:29] Ah, upstart, yuo dont sri. was jsut reading that. [00:29] kde is very very cmplex, full of options here and there [00:30] the_e: why, that's easy enough [00:30] just [00:30] and of course, the Internet is not reliable for answers [00:30] System -> Preferences -> Mouse [00:30] * uRock KDE is crap [00:30] not in XFCE [00:30] but, my perfect combination was to run some KDE apps on top of gnome [00:30] there was no option [00:30] this is the best solution ever [00:30] I'm trying to run ubuntu off a usb drive, it boots up I hear jungle music, but the screen is black, the monitor goes to sleep, how do I fix this? [00:30] then touchpad, uncheck Enable mouse clicks blahblah [00:30] nwidger, I dont know why then the upstartjob is not running it. [00:30] the_e: you think so, huh? [00:30] that wasn't the double tap though [00:30] I mean, I tried it and it didnt work [00:30] KE1HA: ah okay... well thanks for your help [00:31] do compiz work well with de in 10.04? [00:31] the other fella was using rc.d to start on boot. [00:31] the_e: double tap? [00:31] I dont know what else to say :-P [00:31] i saw it not enabled by default [00:31] yeah I wanted that disabled [00:31] not the mouse buttons [00:31] however, was still have the same symptoms your describing. [00:31] but clicking from the pad [00:31] on a touch pad [00:31] the_e: you mean, like double click? well, that disables any click that comes from the pad but keeps your mouse buttons [00:31] and i was very scaried about installing KDE and getting a lot of things i won't use [00:31] it didn't for me :-X [00:31] KE1HA: come to any conclusions with him? [00:31] the_e: trust me, I'm using a macbook, found the tap annoying as hell, disabled it and I'm so happy forevermore [00:32] kde is weird [00:32] si [00:32] ridin: it is [00:32] I jist want my freakin xboxdrv to start! [00:32] well, we got to the point of reinstalling MySQL, and updingting rc.,d and he was gone, so it may have fixed it, not sure. [00:32] well [00:32] the_e: go to the xboxdrv page! [00:32] GEE [00:32] I cant get to the PPA cause Launchpad wants an account [00:32] I dont know how to make things [00:32] I was NEVER able to do it [00:32] the_e: you. are. joking. [00:32] not once [00:32] right? [00:33] nope [00:33] cause it always says something cant be found [00:33] PPAs do NOT need an account [00:33] just start an account [00:33] then what is the address!?!? [00:33] you are just looking in the wrong place mr. [00:33] It may be worth a troll trough the Ubuntu Bug List, as this is too canny to be a one off. [00:33] the link frmo the site brings me there [00:33] well [00:33] T_T [00:33] LINK PLZ [00:33] CAN I HAZ IT? [00:33] mikeru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:33] http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/xboxdrv/ [00:34] lol! [00:34] Hi, I'm trying to run ubuntu off a usb drive, it boots up I hear jungle music, but the screen is black, the monitor goes to sleep, how do I fix this? [00:34] kde can't have sound without gnome here [00:34] the_e: oh my. why are you going to the launchpad page? it even tells you to add it with: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:grumbel/ppa [00:34] start it in safe or vesa mode [00:34] I DID! [00:34] where do I go from there!? [00:34] its not anywhere not synaptic noe the software center [00:35] the_e: ag! [00:35] ah [00:35] :'-( [00:35] the_e: you forgot sudo apt-get update [00:35] i have a question about top and virtual memory. i run 'swapoff -a' as root to disable swap memory. i then launch firefox and open top. top reports that i have 0k total of swap, 0k in use, and 0k free. top reports that firefox is using 248m of VIRT and 85m of RES. according to the man page, VIRT = SWAP + RES. so where is that swap usage coming from? [00:35] I reloaded in synaptic though [00:35] the_e: try again [00:35] xE [00:35] campee: top is incorrect [00:36] campee or system is emulating some virt on the real ram [00:36] the_e: I, however, have a launchpad account, and it seems he/she/it locked the ppa [00:36] for RAM usage run the "free" command [00:36] good, cause im stuck downloading the depency packages for the source [00:36] to get moar ram do malloc [00:36] I just don't know where to extract the tarball [00:36] earthling_, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ [00:36] oh wait [00:36] that's plain wrong... [00:37] cablop: really? [00:37] KE1HA, ok looking at it [00:37] guys I've installed 246.53 drivers in ubuntu lucid, jokey says the drivers is active but not in use [00:37] is there a way to override this and make it use it too? [00:37] it says for CD, but doesnt' matter. [00:37] jpbouza: so did I. [00:37] mikeru: http://drop.io/xboxdrv_for_XBMC_live <-- the readme is where I got all my files from [00:37] i think it would [00:37] just ignore it [00:37] how do I share my internet with a windows computer who can't connect through the router directly? [00:37] the jaunty.sh is what isnt working [00:37] it worked previously for me [00:37] jpbouza: ignore jockey. who cares about it? [00:37] maybe this would help more [00:37] hi everyone [00:37] binni: I read about it once. wait a min [00:38] mmm well, but I have no composite effects mikeru [00:38] they're not going to change the way aq wholw system and applications works just cause the swap is off, and maybe if you launched firefox before disabling the swap, the firefox need to see it as existing [00:38] jpbouza: ah! but that's not jockey's problem [00:38] does anyone know if theres a way to use an i386 apt source on an amd64 version of ubuntu? [00:38] but that's just a guess, but a feasible one === dgtl|screen is now known as dgtlchlk [00:38] cgc: IMPOSSIBLE [00:38] mikeru, how did you go back to the official repo drivers?? [00:39] jpbouza: I HAZ NOT. [00:39] mikeru: ok thanks [00:39] binni, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 [00:39] Cgc: short of a chroot jail, no [00:39] they work perfectly [00:39] cgc: sorrie [00:39] Does Ubuntu Live USB creator work with 10.04? [00:39] mikeru, hehe but then, how did you install 256?? [00:40] xdpirate_, yes [00:40] I can't help but wonder why has nobody increased compatibility with i386 in amd64. I mean, it is ridiculous to --force-architecture for every single .deb. [00:40] Mr_Sonoma: thanks [00:40] im gonna cry, I can't even do the readme right [00:40] jpbouza: lemme check [00:40] I have scons package installed [00:40] so why cant I compile with it> [00:40] No SConstruct file found [00:40] WTF? [00:41] this is why I can never make packages because the readmes are wrong [00:41] jpbouza: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/how-to-install-nvidia-25635-display.html [00:41] you don't tell me where to extract things, you give me the wrong commands [00:41] im not a linux expert [00:41] thanks mikeru I'll check it out now [00:41] the_e: scons? [00:41] yeah, xboxdrv wants scons [00:41] at least the newest one [00:41] scons<3 [00:41] well [00:41] anyone use rtorrent here? i'm having issues with the watch directory feature and pausing/stopping torrents... [00:41] how to list all my current ip addresses? [00:41] you just 'cd' to the dir that has a SConstruct file [00:41] udh [00:42] which is? [00:42] k0sh, ifconfig [00:42] Any time I enable compiz, the window borders and title bar disappear, and none of the effects work. Any help? [00:42] oh [00:42] lol [00:42] A-Non, are you running xfce? [00:42] Mikeru: I think it has more to do with the fact that it could cause instability in the package management system. [00:42] the_e: º-º [00:42] arrrghhh: umm but id like to hve them in readymade list [00:42] its not like it says go to the extracted folder [00:42] aarghhh: I am not aware of what XFCE is, so I don't know [00:42] k0sh, define readymade... because that's pretty readymade if you ask me. [00:42] letalis: wat r u talking bout? [00:43] the problem with a lot of stuff with Linux is that RTFM doesn't work! [00:43] A-Non, are you just running ubuntu from a regular downoad? did you download any special versions? [00:43] (also the internet's information is like 4 years old at this point) [00:43] I386 and amd64 together [00:43] arrrghhh: like in string "10.1.0.1 10.0.3.1 10.3.4.1" [00:43] the_e: OH MY. that is common sense! [00:43] the_e: With linux it's RTFMP. [00:43] after all, what do you do when you extract a file? [00:43] arrrghhh: I installed using the netboot installer, which only installed command line, then I apt-get'd ubuntu-desktop to finish up [00:43] look at its contents. [00:43] with Ubuntu it's RTFM from 8.10 [00:43] cause no one has any newer information on Google [00:43] mikeru, unluckily that's the same tutorial I followed... [00:44] letalis: ah... still, it should just warn against it [00:44] A-Non, huh. never done it that way. i also don't use compiz... what kind of video card? did you install the "restricted drivers" if they apply? [00:44] not prevent you [00:44] jpbouza: it worked fine with me [00:44] jpbouza: unluckily you're just unlucky [00:44] arrrghhh: The disks gave me errors and they wouldn't boot from USB so it was the only way ;) Nvidia FX 5500 card, restricted drivers are installed. [00:45] ok, another n00b question [00:45] ./install.sh means /user/install.sh right? [00:45] A-Non, how are you enabling compiz? [00:45] * mikeru is distracted by too many arrrghhhs [00:45] arrrghhh: terminal, compiz --replace [00:45] hello [00:45] arrrghhh: k, i got it with some grepping :) [00:45] the_e, no, it means run if from where you PWD says your at. [00:46] then why didn't it come with the file it tells me to run? [00:46] there is no install.sh! [00:46] k0sh, ha i was trying to figure out how to grep just for that. couldn't figure it out... [00:46] * linguini installing read-edid [00:46] A-Non, have you tried metacity --replace and activating it thru the gui? [00:46] i know iam gonna make a repeated question, but the last time i install ubuntu take 1 week configure the sound, somebody can help me please [00:46] mikeru, you love it. [00:46] the_e, thats a question for those that packaged the application. [00:46] arrrghh, nope, I'll try it out [00:46] sure [00:46] i have not sound at all [00:46] I know but I'm still gonna flip s words [00:46]