[00:00] <KE1HA> teamcoltra, I think that's the directory encyption app. I was having that issue too, I disabled it as it's really annoying. Im not sure of it's a bug or not, but seems to be, you should report the bug and your issue.
[00:00] <mikeru> whiteknight: I personally use EPSON and it works great, but I've heard HP has better linux support
[00:00] <^^Earth^^> I keep loosing the frame around my program boxes, someone got a clue whats going on :-)
[00:01] <the_e> should I just try to install xboxdrv from their PPA?
[00:01] <KE1HA> whiteknight, HP fer sure, as for models, look at which ones support Linux to save yourself further frustration.
[00:02] <Ubuntus> When i try to open chromium tells me this: Your profile could not be opened correctly.
[00:02] <Ubuntus> Some features may be unavailable.  Please check that the profile exists and you have permission to read and write its contents.
[00:02] <Ubuntus> why?
[00:02] <linguini> mikeru, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/3dxb4Fje
[00:02] <whiteknight> Thanx  bunch, I have a brothers printer. not sure if it is still working...is is a possibility?
[00:02] <Ubuntus> And why do i have so much LAG?
[00:02] <mikeru> linguini: Wut? Intel?
[00:02] <Mr_Sonoma> whiteknight, brother for me has been hit and miss
[00:03] <linguini> mikeru, The monitor is a sony, the desktop is an old dell dimension 2400
[00:03] <BGL-[a]> well that was cute, i just did a fresh install then shutdown the machine and attached it to a kvm switch & diff monitor
[00:03] <mikeru> i'm sorry, I know not of Intel's GAs. however, many people do, so just ask for help with Intel graphics card
[00:03] <BGL-[a]> booted it up and i couldn't login anymore cuz of a graphics problem
[00:03] <BGL-[a]> it kept kicking me back out to the login screen until i went into recovery mode and reset the resolution
[00:04] <the_e> well, I got one error done
[00:04] <patholio> on the ubuntu forums, is there anyway to reset your password if you cant remember your email you set it up with?
[00:04] <KE1HA> whiteknight, No idea about Brothers Printers. GO to their site and lookup the model, and see if it supports Linux, else, google Linux Support for the model you have.
[00:04] <whiteknight> Keiha Thank you
[00:04] <the_e> but I still dont know why I get script.sh: line 11 :/dir is a directory
[00:04] <the_e> I know it is!
[00:04] <BGL-[a]> if i'd never guessed it was a gfx/res problem there'd been no hope of knowing what the cause was
[00:04] <BGL-[a]> i just happened to have a hunch
[00:04] <the_e> but the script I downloaded said to use it
[00:04] <rewati> hi how to remove libamd2.2.0
[00:04] <mikeru> the_e: It's just telling you it is ;)
[00:05] <the_e> so then it worked?
[00:05] <mikeru> the_e: what does the script say
[00:05]  * whiteknight is away: Gotta to get ready for work..Thanks to all
[00:05] <the_e> thats all it says
[00:05] <mikeru> the_e: most probably it didn't
[00:05] <mikeru> the_e: pastebin it
[00:05] <the_e> h/o
[00:05] <linguini> How can I get better display support (resolution higher than 800x600)?  I'm using an intel graphics card?
[00:06] <the_e> http://pastbin.com/VLj56pbG
[00:06] <cablop> had somebody used rabbitvcs?
[00:06] <the_e> ugh, its pastebin.com
[00:06] <KE1HA> linguini, install the right driver >> Chage the desktop res >> edit xorg.conf or upgrade the Graphics card.
[00:07] <the_e> not pastbin
[00:07] <linguini> Also, when I open "Display Properties" my monitor is listed as "Unknown" and I see a pink tag with "Unknown" on the upper left hand corner of my screen.  I'm not sure if this is because my graphics card or monitor itself.
[00:07] <the_e> http://pastebin.com/VLj56pbG
[00:07] <sokka> hola?
[00:07] <mikeru> linguini: a most stupid solution but still could fix the problem, go to System -> Preferences -> Display
[00:07] <mikeru> change the resolution
[00:07] <cablop> !es
[00:07] <mikeru> sokka: adios
[00:08] <mikeru> sokka: habla en ingles o hasle caso a ubottu
[00:08] <cablop> mikeru, this is not polite
[00:08] <mikeru> cablop: sorry
[00:08] <KE1HA> the_e, is Line 7 Correct ?
[00:08] <linguini> mikeru, The monitor is listed as unknown, and it won't let me change to a resolution higher than 800x600.
[00:08] <sokka> oooh
[00:08] <sokka> ok
[00:08] <linguini> KE1HA, Thanks, Any idea how I get the right driver..?
[00:08] <the_e> yep
[00:09] <the_e> I dont know why its like that but it is
[00:09] <cablop> and sokka, you can go to #ubuntu-es for help, puedes ir a #ubuntu-es por ayuda
[00:09] <thune3> ^^Earth^^: it is likely a compiz related issue, you could disalbe compiz or see this thread for all the possible suggestions (post #19 is what worked for the OP): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112214  "titlebar compiz ubuntu" are the keywords for your issue.
[00:09] <linguini> I apparently have 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
[00:09] <sokka> i dont need help i just was bored and i joined to see what is going on here :P
[00:09] <leecheva> hello?
[00:09] <leecheva> someone can help me please?
[00:09] <cablop> linguini: i think it is more a video driver issue than a monitor isue, my monitor is listed as unknown and gives me 1440x900
[00:09] <mikeru> leecheva: HI?
[00:10] <leecheva> mikeru: hi
[00:10] <mikeru> cablop: but it is Nvidia, right?
[00:10] <UkeKun> mikeru: it sounds to me like the monitor has a bad EDID more than anything
[00:11] <mikeru> nvidia drivers will always report unknown, even if they know, and a wrong Hz. you can "Option DisableTwinView True" and it will then fix that, but nvidia's x util won't work anymore
[00:11] <the_e> the script is supposed to start the xboxdrv driver
[00:11] <KE1HA> the_e, seem it's not fiding the source ..._.VL file to me, why I dont know, are you in the right dir when you execute it?
[00:11] <^^Earth^^> thune3: Thanks.... :-)
[00:11] <mikeru> now, moving on to the real problem
[00:11] <Ubuntus> WHY DO I HAVE SO MUCH LAG!?
[00:11] <mikeru> linguini: look at UkeKun
[00:11] <linguini> cablop, Ah, thanks.  That helps some...
[00:11] <Ubuntus> Is it Ubuntu about to crash!?
[00:11] <mikeru> Ubuntus: CAN YOU NOT HAZ CAPSLOCK PLZ
[00:11] <leecheva> can help me please?
[00:12] <Ubuntus> mikeru: Well, i need to take out my stress somehow
[00:12] <teamcoltra> KE1HA, yes I am using the directory encryption app too... honestly I feel that privacy outweighs convenience so I will keep it... but there should be a bug report for it
[00:12] <Ubuntus> i need to express myself
[00:12] <KE1HA> the_e, it looks like the is the file yes? : boxdrv_for_XBMC_live.v1  the [ optins ] etc etc
[00:12] <mikeru> leecheva: well, if you told us what's your problem...
[00:12] <Ubuntus> Some features may be unavailable.  Please check that the profile exists and you have permission to read and write its contents.
[00:12] <neil_d> I am trying to limit the speed of scp (so it doesn't use all the bandwidth) I am using the command .... scp -l 2 ndugan@office:/tmp/wholesale.sql.gz /tmp/wholesale.sql.gz ... but the speed is still 10 - 16 KB/s :( ... what is going on?
[00:12] <mikeru> leecheva: asking for help is not going to help
[00:12] <cablop> linguini: yes i have an Nvidia card
[00:12] <the_e> KE1HA: ?
[00:13] <KE1HA> teamcoltra, yes, I agree, I think it's a bug too.
[00:13] <the_e> I c/ped the file and then pasted what I got from terminal
[00:13] <linguini> UkeKun, is there a way to confirm a bad EDID without freezing my system?
[00:13] <leecheva> im trying to install kubuntu but when i put isntall my monitor turn off and it say out of range i dont know what to do
[00:13] <mikeru> cablop: ...
[00:13] <the_e> 1-11 is the script, 14-19 is the terminal
[00:13] <KE1HA> the_e, sri, to many irons in the fire here. Ok, it's looking for a file to run, but somehow it's only getting to the dir level.
[00:13] <cablop> sorry, i just moved and maybe i lost th thread
[00:13] <the_e> because there is no file to run, lol
[00:13] <KE1HA> I suspect it has to do with the EXPORT=.
[00:13] <mikeru> doesn't matter
[00:14] <the_e> the folder contains everything needed for xboxdrv
[00:14] <the_e> if there is an easier way to install it, by all means tell me
[00:14] <the_e> apparently all I need to do is install xboxdrv
[00:14] <the_e> this is just *an easy* way to do it
[00:14] <the_e> with a half-written guide
[00:14] <cablop> mikeru, yup, an nvidia one, but the nvidia driver is not an isue :P
[00:14] <UkeKun> linguini if you have a windows install you can use MonitorInfoView GUI from Nirsoft
[00:14] <the_e> I added the PPAs but can't find the package in software center
[00:14] <Mr_Sonoma> what driver do i need to get my via technologies vga card working? display is fine really just no ability to run desktop effects
[00:15] <mikeru> cablop: of course it isn't. after all, nouveau is still quite behind
[00:15] <djustice> question: "KERNEL=="loop*", ENV{DKD_PRESENTATION_HIDE}=1" doesnt seem to work.. any hints
[00:15] <djustice> ?
[00:15] <cablop> i'm using the propietary driver anyway :P
[00:15] <leecheva> T_T
[00:16] <mikeru> cablop: I just commented however that adding that specific line in xorg.conf will fix the reporting of the refresh rate and the monitor's name
[00:16] <cablop> Mr_Sonoma: i think you need to try with the VIA provider... but i barely believe a VIA will support desftop effects, not beyong metacity
[00:16] <leecheva> help?
[00:17] <Mr_Sonoma> cablop, thanks
[00:17] <mikeru> WUT WAS THAT?
[00:17] <cablop> what thing?
[00:17] <raymondtan85> hey there
[00:17] <KE1HA> lol irc mombo jumbo :-)
[00:17] <raymondtan85> testing testing
[00:17] <mikeru> DIRTY TRICKS
[00:17] <neil_d> I am trying to limit the speed of scp (so it doesn't use all the bandwidth) I am using the command .... scp -l 2 ndugan@office:/tmp/wholesale.sql.gz /tmp/wholesale.sql.gz ... but the speed is still 10 - 16 KB/s :( ... what is going on?
[00:17] <mikeru> :(
[00:17] <the_e> FML!
[00:17] <mikeru> SCAREZ ME
[00:18] <FloodBot4> mikeru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <cablop> they made a change in the matrix, i guess
[00:18] <mikeru> ooh, that explains the deja vu
[00:18] <cablop> XD
[00:18] <the_e> how is it that I added a repository but can't find any of it's packages anywhere?
[00:18] <linguini> UkeKun, I do have windows; I'll make a note of that...
[00:18] <leecheva> im trying to install kubuntu but when i put isntall my monitor turn off and it say out of range i dont know what to do?
[00:19] <KE1HA> neil_d, http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/cmd.csp?path=s/scp
[00:19] <linguini> Also, I think I may be hitting http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/the-dreaded-82845g-intel-integrated-graphics-does-any-linux-work-with-it-802465/
[00:19] <UkeKun> linguini I had a similar problem with a HDTV except it was windows which didn't like the EDID, linux was fine with it
[00:19] <KE1HA> neil_d, use the -l flag to:  Limit bandwidth used, specified in kilobits/second.
[00:20] <bobo123> the_e: have you reloaded the packageinformation, and you verified what packages that should appear by going there to that repository with a webbrowser?
[00:20] <nwidger> if the 'post-start script' in an upstart job fails, will that kill the 'main process' (the process started by the 'exec' stanza)?
[00:20] <neil_d> KE1HA: yes I read the manpage ... but the -l didn't seem to limit the speed.
[00:20] <the_e> no, because im working between 2 computers
[00:21] <KE1HA> how big of file are you transferring / ho long does it take? Small files will just blast through, even with limit.
[00:21] <the_e> i just did though and no dice
[00:21] <neil_d> KE1HA: 6.1MB
[00:22] <the_e> how do I check a PPA from a webbrowser?\
[00:22] <KE1HA> neil_d, so what are you seeing on your bandwidth monitor? Is it maxing out your available BW ?
[00:23] <uRock> If you have a really big file, you can use the split command to break it up, then reassemble it after moving it. Run "man split" in a terminal to find out more.
[00:23] <bobo123> to have flash-cookies deleted each time I run firefox I changed the command for the firefox-command in the Program menu to     bash -c 'rm -rf ~/.adobe; rm -rf ~/.macromedia; firefox %u'    instead of just    firefox %u      are there any bad side effects by doing this, or are there a better way to do this?
[00:23] <neil_d> KE1HA: found the problem... the rate display of scp needs time to settle... leave it run for a while and the rate comes down.
[00:23] <binni> My ubuntu machine is connected to the internet using a wireless card, can I give a windows machine internet access by connecting the two computers together with a ethernet cable and then do what?
[00:24] <KE1HA> neil_d, rr. good, glad you got it sorted.
[00:25] <nwidger> anyone else been having problems with mysql not starting on boot?
[00:25] <the_e> im really starting to lose faith in Ubuntu, between driver madness, GNOME wonkiness...its just not worth it
[00:25] <cablop> nwidger: which problem specifically, are there multiple reasons for something like that
[00:26] <maco> kde is the solution to gnome wonkiness
[00:26] <the_e> KDE is even uglier
[00:26] <cablop> kde...
[00:26] <mikeru> maco: BLASPHEMY
[00:26] <KE1HA> nwidger, yes, i was workign with a fell a little while ago, but he left the channel before he posted his final results.
[00:26] <the_e> I don't know why they just dont work on one
[00:26] <crypt-0> im moving my installation from one drive to anther, but grub is failing to install
[00:26] <maco> mikeru: im a kubuntu user :P
[00:26] <maco> the_e: ask the gnome people. kde was around first
[00:26] <mikeru> maco: /join #kubuntu : )
[00:26] <bobo123> the_e: I think you should normally be able to just enter the ppa-address in the webbrowser, for example http://ppa.launchpad.net/durmieu/ppa/ubuntu and ther follow the links to dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/
[00:26] <maco> mikeru: im in there
[00:27] <maco> mikeru: im an op in both channels
[00:27] <the_e> ah
[00:27] <nwidger> KE1HA: ok, well my problem is that mysql does not start on boot, even though its upstart config file /etc/init/mysql.conf is untouched
[00:27] <cablop> op?
[00:27] <mikeru> maco: oh, you're an op ? interesting!
[00:27] <nwidger> KE1HA: i dont see any errors in log files
[00:27] <cablop> anyway, KDE is weird
[00:27] <maco> cablop: operator...like a moderator...i can remove people who misbehave
[00:27] <KE1HA> the_e, the divers issues are generic to Ubuntu I can assure you on that one.
[00:27] <leecheva> T_T
[00:27] <nwidger> KE1HA: nothing in /var/log/messages, syslog or daemon.log
[00:27] <the_e> yeah
[00:27] <the_e> but GNOME issues aren't :-P
[00:27] <crypt-0> i have sda1 as boot and sda5 as encrypted root ...all files are intact, i just need to reninstall the MBR grub-install fails
[00:27] <the_e> like duplicating items
[00:28] <the_e> the PPA wants me to register
[00:28] <nwidger> KE1HA: and i can start it manually with 'sudo start mysql' post-boot and that works fine.  it just doesnt seem to start on bootup.
[00:28] <cablop> if i had to compare gnome and KDE i'll say that gnome is anorexic a kde is bullimic
[00:28] <Blackwood_Live> hello, my grub slipped up...I'm dual-booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu and after i leave windows to boot into Ubuntu the GRUB messes up...can somebody help me fix frub
[00:28] <KE1HA> nwidger, can you manually start / stop it with init.d ?
[00:28] <mikeru> I like both KDE and GNOME... but I prefere GNOME. they have their goods and downsides
[00:28] <mikeru> cablop: indeed
[00:28] <mikeru> but
[00:28] <mikeru> then
[00:28] <mikeru> XFCE IS WUT?
[00:28] <nwidger> KE1HA: it's been ported over to an upstart job, so the init.d scripts are gone.  it should be started by init from /etc/init/mysql.conf
[00:28] <cablop> xfce is a wannabe
[00:28] <cablop> XD
[00:28] <the_e> XFCE is a sad state of affairs
[00:29] <mikeru> wannabe anorexic? that's sad xd
[00:29] <KE1HA> LOL .. sri you beat me too it. Check that the service is installed properly with update-rc.d
[00:29] <cablop> nah, yup
[00:29] <the_e> no way to disable double tap clicking?
[00:29] <uRock> !xfce
[00:29] <the_e> that was the one thing that made me switch back to Ubuntu
[00:29] <cablop> xfce is just the pure bones witha  little skin on them
[00:29] <nwidger> KE1HA: why would i need scripts to be installed in /etc/init.d if it's supposed to be an upstart job.
[00:29] <mikeru> the_e: like in trackpad?
[00:29] <cablop> gnome has more flesh, but no enough organs
[00:29] <maco> mikeru: anorexic jokes not appreciated...
[00:29] <the_e> yeah
[00:29] <KE1HA> Ah, upstart, yuo dont sri. was jsut reading that.
[00:29] <cablop> kde is very very cmplex, full of options here and there
[00:30] <mikeru> the_e: why, that's easy enough
[00:30] <mikeru> just
[00:30] <the_e> and of course, the Internet is not reliable for answers
[00:30] <mikeru> System -> Preferences -> Mouse
[00:30]  * uRock KDE is crap
[00:30] <the_e> not in XFCE
[00:30] <cablop> but, my perfect combination was to run  some KDE apps on top of gnome
[00:30] <the_e> there was no option
[00:30] <cablop> this is the best solution ever
[00:30] <earthling_> I'm trying to run ubuntu off a usb drive, it boots up I hear jungle music, but the screen is black, the monitor goes to sleep, how do I fix this?
[00:30] <mikeru> then touchpad, uncheck Enable mouse clicks blahblah
[00:30] <KE1HA> nwidger, I dont know why then the upstartjob is not running it.
[00:30] <mikeru> the_e:  you think so, huh?
[00:30] <the_e> that wasn't the double tap though
[00:30] <the_e> I mean, I tried it and it didnt work
[00:30] <nwidger> KE1HA: ah okay... well thanks for your help
[00:31] <cablop> do compiz work well with de in 10.04?
[00:31] <KE1HA> the other fella was using rc.d to start on boot.
[00:31] <mikeru> the_e: double tap?
[00:31] <the_e> I dont know what else to say :-P
[00:31] <cablop> i saw it not enabled by default
[00:31] <the_e> yeah I wanted that disabled
[00:31] <the_e> not the mouse buttons
[00:31] <KE1HA> however, was still have the same symptoms your describing.
[00:31] <the_e> but clicking from the pad
[00:31] <the_e> on a touch pad
[00:31] <mikeru> the_e: you mean, like double click? well, that disables any click that comes from the pad but keeps your mouse buttons
[00:31] <cablop> and i was very scaried about installing KDE and getting a lot of things i won't use
[00:31] <the_e> it didn't for me :-X
[00:31] <nwidger> KE1HA: come to any conclusions with him?
[00:31] <mikeru> the_e: trust me, I'm using a macbook, found the tap annoying as hell, disabled it and I'm so happy forevermore
[00:32] <ridin> kde is weird
[00:32] <uRock> si
[00:32] <mikeru> ridin: it is
[00:32] <the_e> I jist want my freakin xboxdrv to start!
[00:32] <KE1HA> well, we got to the point of reinstalling MySQL, and updingting rc.,d and he was gone, so it may have fixed it, not sure.
[00:32] <mikeru> well
[00:32] <mikeru> the_e: go to the xboxdrv page!
[00:32] <mikeru> GEE
[00:32] <the_e> I cant get to the PPA cause Launchpad wants an account
[00:32] <the_e> I dont know how to make things
[00:32] <the_e> I was NEVER able to do it
[00:32] <mikeru> the_e: you. are. joking.
[00:32] <the_e> not once
[00:32] <mikeru> right?
[00:33] <the_e> nope
[00:33] <the_e> cause it always says something cant be found
[00:33] <mikeru> PPAs do NOT need an account
[00:33] <uRock> just start an account
[00:33] <the_e> then what is the address!?!?
[00:33] <mikeru> you are just looking in the wrong place mr.
[00:33] <KE1HA> It may be worth a troll trough the Ubuntu Bug List, as this is too canny to be a one off.
[00:33] <the_e> the link frmo the site brings me there
[00:33] <mikeru> well
[00:33] <leecheva> T_T
[00:33] <mikeru> LINK PLZ
[00:33] <mikeru> CAN I HAZ IT?
[00:33] <FloodBot4> mikeru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <the_e> http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/xboxdrv/
[00:34] <cablop> lol!
[00:34] <earthling_> Hi, I'm trying to run ubuntu off a usb drive, it boots up I hear jungle music, but the screen is black, the monitor goes to sleep, how do I fix this?
[00:34] <ridin> kde can't have sound without gnome here
[00:34] <mikeru> the_e: oh my. why are you going to the launchpad page? it even tells you to add it with: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:grumbel/ppa
[00:34] <cablop> start it in safe or vesa mode
[00:34] <the_e> I DID!
[00:34] <the_e> where do I go from there!?
[00:34] <the_e> its not anywhere not synaptic noe the software center
[00:35] <mikeru> the_e: ag!
[00:35] <mikeru> ah
[00:35] <the_e> :'-(
[00:35] <mikeru> the_e: you forgot sudo apt-get update
[00:35] <campee> i have a question about top and virtual memory. i run 'swapoff -a' as root to disable swap memory. i then launch firefox and open top. top reports that i have 0k total of swap, 0k in use, and 0k free. top reports that firefox is using 248m of VIRT and 85m of RES. according to the man page, VIRT = SWAP + RES. so where is that swap usage coming from?
[00:35] <the_e> I reloaded in synaptic though
[00:35] <mikeru> the_e: try again
[00:35] <mikeru> xE
[00:35] <magicianlord> campee: top is incorrect
[00:36] <cablop> campee or system is emulating some virt on the real ram
[00:36] <mikeru> the_e: I, however, have a launchpad account, and it seems he/she/it locked the ppa
[00:36] <uRock> for RAM usage run the "free" command
[00:36] <the_e> good, cause im stuck downloading the depency packages for the source
[00:36] <mikeru> to get moar ram do malloc
[00:36] <the_e> I just don't know where to extract the tarball
[00:36] <KE1HA> earthling_, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[00:36] <mikeru> oh wait
[00:36] <mikeru> that's plain wrong...
[00:37] <campee> cablop: really?
[00:37] <earthling_> KE1HA, ok looking at it
[00:37] <jpbouza> guys I've installed 246.53 drivers in ubuntu lucid, jokey says the drivers is active but not in use
[00:37] <jpbouza> is there a way to override this and make it use it too?
[00:37] <KE1HA> it says for CD, but doesnt' matter.
[00:37] <mikeru> jpbouza: so did I.
[00:37] <the_e> mikeru: http://drop.io/xboxdrv_for_XBMC_live <-- the readme is where I got all my files from
[00:37] <cablop> i think it would
[00:37] <mikeru> just ignore it
[00:37] <binni> how do I share my internet with a windows computer who can't connect through the router directly?
[00:37] <the_e> the jaunty.sh is what isnt working
[00:37] <the_e> it worked previously for me
[00:37] <mikeru> jpbouza: ignore jockey. who cares about it?
[00:37] <the_e> maybe this would help more
[00:37] <cgc> hi everyone
[00:37] <mikeru> binni: I read about it once. wait a min
[00:38] <jpbouza> mmm well, but I have no composite effects mikeru
[00:38] <cablop> they're not going to change the way aq wholw system and applications works just cause the swap is off, and maybe if you launched firefox  before  disabling the swap, the firefox need to see it as existing
[00:38] <mikeru> jpbouza: ah! but that's not jockey's problem
[00:38] <cgc> does anyone know if theres a way to use an i386 apt source on an amd64 version of ubuntu?
[00:38] <cablop> but that's just a guess, but a feasible one
[00:38] <mikeru> cgc: IMPOSSIBLE
[00:38] <jpbouza> mikeru, how did you go back to the official repo drivers??
[00:39] <mikeru> jpbouza: I HAZ NOT.
[00:39] <cgc> mikeru: ok thanks
[00:39] <KE1HA> binni, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[00:39] <letalis> Cgc: short of a chroot jail, no
[00:39] <mikeru> they work perfectly
[00:39] <mikeru> cgc: sorrie
[00:39] <xdpirate_> Does Ubuntu Live USB creator work with 10.04?
[00:39] <jpbouza> mikeru, hehe but then, how did you install 256??
[00:40] <Mr_Sonoma> xdpirate_, yes
[00:40] <mikeru> I can't help but wonder why has nobody increased compatibility with i386 in amd64. I mean, it is ridiculous to --force-architecture for every single .deb.
[00:40] <xdpirate_> Mr_Sonoma: thanks
[00:40] <the_e> im gonna cry, I can't even do the readme right
[00:40] <mikeru> jpbouza: lemme check
[00:40] <the_e> I have scons package installed
[00:40] <the_e> so why cant I compile with it>
[00:40] <the_e> No SConstruct file found
[00:40] <the_e> WTF?
[00:41] <the_e> this is why I can never make packages because the readmes are wrong
[00:41] <mikeru> jpbouza: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/how-to-install-nvidia-25635-display.html
[00:41] <the_e> you don't tell me where to extract things, you give me the wrong commands
[00:41] <the_e> im not a linux expert
[00:41] <jpbouza> thanks mikeru I'll check it out now
[00:41] <mikeru> the_e: scons?
[00:41] <the_e> yeah, xboxdrv wants scons
[00:41] <the_e> at least the newest one
[00:41] <mikeru> scons<3
[00:41] <mikeru> well
[00:41] <arrrghhh> anyone use rtorrent here?  i'm having issues with the watch directory feature and pausing/stopping torrents...
[00:41] <k0sh> how to list all my current ip addresses?
[00:41] <mikeru> you just 'cd' to the dir that has a SConstruct file
[00:41] <mikeru> udh
[00:42] <the_e> which is?
[00:42] <arrrghhh> k0sh, ifconfig
[00:42] <A-Non> Any time I enable compiz, the window borders and title bar disappear, and none of the effects work. Any help?
[00:42] <the_e> oh
[00:42] <the_e> lol
[00:42] <arrrghhh> A-Non, are you running xfce?
[00:42] <letalis> Mikeru: I think it has more to do with the fact that it could cause instability in the package management system.
[00:42] <mikeru> the_e: º-º
[00:42] <k0sh> arrrghhh: umm but id like to hve them in readymade list
[00:42] <the_e> its not like it says go to the extracted folder
[00:42] <A-Non> aarghhh: I am not aware of what XFCE is, so I don't know
[00:42] <arrrghhh> k0sh, define readymade... because that's pretty readymade if you ask me.
[00:42] <mikeru> letalis: wat r u talking bout?
[00:43] <the_e> the problem with a lot of stuff with Linux is that RTFM doesn't work!
[00:43] <arrrghhh> A-Non, are you just running ubuntu from a regular downoad?  did you download any special versions?
[00:43] <the_e> (also the internet's information is like 4 years old at this point)
[00:43] <letalis> I386 and amd64 together
[00:43] <k0sh> arrrghhh: like in string "10.1.0.1 10.0.3.1 10.3.4.1"
[00:43] <mikeru> the_e: OH MY. that is common sense!
[00:43] <Vespero> the_e: With linux it's RTFMP.
[00:43] <mikeru> after all, what do you do when you extract a file?
[00:43] <A-Non> arrrghhh: I installed using the netboot installer, which only installed command line, then I apt-get'd ubuntu-desktop to finish up
[00:43] <mikeru> look at its contents.
[00:43] <the_e> with Ubuntu it's RTFM from 8.10
[00:43] <the_e> cause no one has any newer information on Google
[00:43] <jpbouza> mikeru, unluckily that's the same tutorial I followed...
[00:44] <mikeru> letalis: ah... still, it should just warn against it
[00:44] <arrrghhh> A-Non, huh.  never done it that way.  i also don't use compiz... what kind of video card?  did you install the "restricted drivers" if they apply?
[00:44] <mikeru> not prevent you
[00:44] <mikeru> jpbouza: it worked fine with me
[00:44] <mikeru> jpbouza: unluckily you're just unlucky
[00:44] <A-Non> arrrghhh: The disks gave me errors and they wouldn't boot from USB so it was the only way ;) Nvidia FX 5500 card, restricted drivers are installed.
[00:45] <the_e> ok, another n00b question
[00:45] <the_e> ./install.sh means /user/install.sh right?
[00:45] <arrrghhh> A-Non, how are you enabling compiz?
[00:45]  * mikeru is distracted by too many arrrghhhs
[00:45] <A-Non> arrrghhh: terminal, compiz --replace
[00:45] <PeterDrop> hello
[00:45] <k0sh> arrrghhh: k, i got it with some grepping :)
[00:45] <KE1HA> the_e, no, it means run if from where you PWD says your at.
[00:46] <the_e> then why didn't it come with the file it tells me to run?
[00:46] <the_e> there is no install.sh!
[00:46] <arrrghhh> k0sh, ha i was trying to figure out how to grep just for that.  couldn't figure it out...
[00:46]  * linguini installing read-edid
[00:46] <arrrghhh> A-Non, have you tried metacity --replace and activating it thru the gui?
[00:46] <PeterDrop> i know iam gonna make a repeated question, but the last time i install ubuntu take 1 week configure the sound, somebody can help me please
[00:46] <arrrghhh> mikeru, you love it.
[00:46] <KE1HA> the_e, thats a question for those that packaged the application.
[00:46] <A-Non> arrrghh, nope, I'll try it out
[00:46] <mikeru> sure
[00:46] <PeterDrop> i have not sound at all
[00:46] <the_e> I know but I'm still gonna flip s words
[00:46] <nimbiotics> hello. i recently upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 and after typing my password to login i get a window telling me there's a program still runung (power manager) any ideas why am i seeing this? TIA!
[00:47] <the_e> cause if I was using Windows or OSX, I'd have a nice little executable for it
[00:47] <the_e> I don't even know why I stuck with Ubuntu so long...
[00:47] <the_e> (I like the customization I suppose)
[00:47] <magicianlord> nimbiotics: try seeing startup applications, and see if power manager was saved to start up twice
[00:47] <A-Non> arrrghhh: doing metacity --replace gives me this little error... is it normal? "Window manager warning: Failed to load theme "Humanoid-OSX-Black": Failed to find a valid file for theme Humanoid-OSX-Black"
[00:48] <arrrghhh> A-Non, huh.  did gnome go do something different other than metacity?
[00:48] <KE1HA> the_e, the problems you decribing are not Ubuntu Problems, there applicaiton buld problems.
[00:48] <mikeru> Noob`s: I'd recommend you not to use `
[00:48] <linguini> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ZLJbNpym
[00:48] <nimbiotics> magicianlord: no, thats not the case :/
[00:48] <magicianlord> nimbiotics: ok
[00:48] <A-Non> arrrghhh: I'm not sure what it was supposed to do to compare? I'm pretty new to linux =\
[00:49] <mikeru> the_e: hey... this is a support channel, not a why-ubuntu-sucks channel
[00:49] <mikeru> after all
[00:49] <mikeru> windows sucks moar
[00:49] <FloodBot4> mikeru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:49] <arrrghhh> A-Non, hrm.  perhaps what i was trying was not correct.  can you perhaps just reboot and try to enable compiz thru the gui?
[00:49] <cablop> how can i sewt a variable ermanently in the system?
[00:49] <KE1HA> mikeru, Ditto on WinDoze !!!
[00:49] <arrrghhh> cablop, uh... what are you trying to set?
[00:49] <A-Non> arrrghhh: How would I enable it through the GUI?
[00:50] <magicianlord> so, i'm running a headless system right now. thinking about installin X, but not sure. i like this clean setup
[00:50] <cablop> JAVA_HOME
[00:50] <magicianlord> ideas?
[00:50] <arrrghhh> A-Non, it's in the display prefs... sorry i'm not running ubuntu on this lappy right now.
[00:50] <tweak> hello. this may be offtopic dunno where to ask but : i got a new pc and its sata only, and i have an ide drive containing my info. do i get an ide controller or some kind of adapter? any ideas?
[00:50] <cablop> arrrghhh: the JAVA_HOME env var
[00:50] <mikeru> quite stupid how many complain. OH its so difficult and blahblah, yet on windows they can't even do whatever they were trying so they just don't go through the effort.
[00:50] <mikeru> sad
[00:50] <flatout> greetings
[00:50] <arrrghhh> A-Non, it's called compositing effects or some such thing.
[00:50] <arrrghhh> cablop, in your ~.bashrc
[00:50] <KE1HA> A-Non, Cpmpiz How To: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[00:50] <A-Non> arrrghhh: Desktop effects?
[00:51] <mikeru> NO
[00:51] <crypt-0> i just re-installed grub, but on boot it drops to agrub> prompt ....what should i do?
[00:51] <Oer> tweak ide > usb 2.0
[00:51] <flatout> can anyone point me in the direction of finding help to view a shared folder on ubuntu 10 server from ubuntu 9 client
[00:51] <flatout> please
[00:51] <cablop> arrrghhh: it's not for me, it's for the whole system, cause a service will need it
[00:51] <mikeru> NO ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES IN ~/.bashrc plz
[00:51] <mikeru> will cause grief
[00:51] <tweak> oer : i dont want to use usb. i want to connect an ide drive to my pc that is sata only
[00:51] <arrrghhh> mikeru, where do they go?
[00:51] <arrrghhh> answer the man's question then!
[00:52] <mikeru> arrrghhh: ~/.pam_environment
[00:52] <mikeru> it is _awesome_
[00:52] <arrrghhh> ...why?
[00:52] <mikeru> arrrghhh: bcos ~/.bashrc sucks
[00:52] <mikeru> and ubuntu says so
[00:52] <mikeru> : - )
[00:52] <mikeru> anyway
[00:52] <arrrghhh> your reasoning skills are astounding.  link please?
[00:52] <FloodBot4> mikeru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <Gnea> mikeru: more headaches if I don't
[00:53] <getpwnam> would the following be a sensible order for a beginner to learn things: unix utilites --> shell scripting --> sed & awk --> perl ?
[00:53] <KE1HA> flatout, SSH or samba
[00:53] <mikeru> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[00:53] <chibbo> Hali
[00:53] <KE1HA> crypt-0, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[00:53] <nm5tf> anyone know if Zio SM card reader will work under Lucid 10.04 LTS???
[00:53] <mikeru> Gnea: wut ?
[00:53] <Gnea> getpwnam: well, sed and awk are unix utilities, so yeah
[00:53] <mikeru> arrrghhh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[00:53] <Gnea> mikeru: env vars have historically gone in ~/.bashrc, nothing wrong with that.
[00:53] <nimbiotics> hello. i recently upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 and after typing my password to login i get a window telling me there's a program still runung (power manager) any ideas why am i seeing this? TIA!
[00:54] <KE1HA> nm5tf, is is USB 2.0 compliant/. if so, the yse the car reader will work.
[00:54] <mikeru> Gnea: sure haha I don't really care
[00:54] <the_e> I got it
[00:54] <Gnea> mikeru: :)
[00:54] <KE1HA> ops if so, yes, the card reader will work.
[00:54] <the_e> sorry for the ulcer mikeru
[00:54] <the_e> but I offer you 17 internets
[00:54] <mikeru> however for some reason some didn't work there, and .pam_environment fixed all my woes
[00:54] <mikeru> the_e: wut?
[00:54] <cablop> i need to export a variable to the whole system, how can i do that? i need to set the JAVA_HOME not for me, but the system itself!
[00:55] <the_e> the reason the script didnt work was because everything i needde was in the live folder
[00:55] <mikeru> cablop: /etc/profile
[00:55] <datacrusher> hello everyone, my ubuntu notebook wont boot, i got a initramfs message, what can i do?
[00:55] <arrrghhh> mikeru, he's looking for global.  so the correct answer is /etc/environment.  but you are correct, evidently .bashrc is a bad place to put environment variables.
[00:55] <the_e> the readme wouldnt tell you that
[00:55] <the_e> but I figured it out...
[00:55] <mikeru> cablop: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[00:55] <arrrghhh> mikeru, the readme said /etc/profile is NOT recommended.
[00:55] <nm5tf> KE1HA: yes according to the info..of course my Olympys MAUSB-10 was also supposed to be supported by ALAUDA, but it has never worked with*NIX, but works great under Windoze
[00:55] <cablop> thanls mikeru!!
[00:55] <arrrghhh> jeebus.
[00:55] <mikeru> arrrghhh: ah! you're completely right! I forgot about it, so I suggested profile since e
[00:55] <mikeru> I couldn't remember the path to it
[00:55] <datacrusher> i got the following message - BusyBoy v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash)
[00:55] <arrrghhh> mikeru, hopefully he reads the doc :D
[00:56] <thune3> getpwnam: i would suggest skipping the the sed&awk step. perl can do everyting sed&awk can do.
[00:56] <Gnea> mikeru: I was just curious what ubuntu doc says that ~/.pam_environment should be used in place of ~/.bashrc
[00:56] <Masamune> Just wondering if anyone could tell me what to do whejn I get Error: File Not Found and Grub Rescu>?
[00:56] <magicianlord> how do you configure nouveau driver after installing it?
[00:57] <akio> something awful happened to freenode....
[00:57] <xdpirate_> How can the usb-creator tool let me use the whole disk for persistent storage? It'll only let me use up to 4 GB yet the usb drive i'm using is 40 gb.. the whole point is to use this to breathe new life to a computer with a botched hdd by running a persistent linux install from an usb drive
[00:57] <mikeru> now cablop, if you plan on using pam_environment (I think /etc/environment follows same syntax), it's not JAVA_HOME="path", it's JAVA_HOME DEFAULT="path"
[00:57] <cablop> well mikeru, it's on /etc/environment, the system bashrc and the profile one are not recommended
[00:57] <mikeru> weird it is
[00:57] <mikeru> cablop: indeed it's there
[00:57] <arrrghhh> lol
[00:57] <KE1HA> Masamune, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[00:58] <mikeru> ignore that. it's just BLAH=BLAH
[00:58] <Masamune> KE1HA, that requires booting from livecd which I can't do.
[00:58] <horkhorkhork> how do i fix this - http://pastebin.com/h418ZF8j
[00:58] <mikeru> pam is BLAH DEFAULT=BLAH and some OVERRIDE= weirdness I dunno how that works but it's not needed
[00:59] <thune3> xdpirate_: you can access the underlying usb filesystem through /cdrom to bypass the persistencefile. you could make a directory in cdrom with permissions for your user and put the big file there.
[00:59] <mikeru> horkhorkhork: well, that does not help at all. what was above that?
[00:59] <KE1HA> Masamune, if you can't boot the computer from a Live-CD or USB Stick / HDD, then you've got little to no chance of being able to edit yout Grub files.
[00:59] <horkhorkhork> "setting up firefox"
[00:59] <datacrusher> !initramfs
[01:00] <crypt-0> i just re-installed grub, but on boot it drops to agrub> prompt ....what should i do? its grub2
[01:00] <linguini> It looks like I might be hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xresprobe/+bug/94994 , but I don't understand how that was resolved exactly.
[01:00] <mikeru> COLORS :)
[01:00] <crypt-0> KE1HA, u using grub2.
[01:00] <mikeru> COLORS :)
[01:00] <horkhorkhork> i had to uninstall/re-install firefox
[01:00] <KE1HA> crypt-0, yes and no. Several boxes yes, several severs and workstations, no.
[01:00] <Masamune> KE1HA, not sure if i can boot from usb, I will have to try that at some point, would I be able to do anything over network? I have an option for something like that
[01:01] <mikeru> horkhorkhork: ah. then there's sumthin messed up with dpkg. make sure you're not using one of those lovely tdpkg that use databases, it screwed my update and i don't know why it also screwed anything related to firefox that was updated or installed. damn firefox's debs!
[01:01] <crypt-0> KE1HA, sorry *I* am using grub2.
[01:01] <crypt-0> that lin is for grub1
[01:01] <KE1HA> Masamune, not without an operating system on the target computer. If not CD-Rom, then, a USB stick is your best shot I'd think.
[01:01] <appamajig> should I use ext3 or ext4 for my root and home partitions?
[01:01] <horkhorkhork> ok
[01:01] <mikeru> doesn't everybody use grub2 nowadays,  anyway?
[01:02] <cablop> so... how can i know the real java path?
[01:02] <mikeru> horkhorkhork: ...were you?
[01:02] <horkhorkhork> idk..
[01:02] <Masamune> KEIAH, will have to check tomorrow, I think it's actually the bootloader or something/
[01:02] <mikeru> cablop: did you use environment?
[01:02] <horkhorkhork> all i did was "apt-get install firefox"
[01:02] <mikeru> then logout or reboot
[01:02] <crypt-0> appamajig, what are you using the for?
[01:02] <horkhorkhork> ok
[01:02] <KE1HA> crypt-0, Ahh, good point, TNX, need a Grub2 Link also.
[01:03] <horkhorkhork> i shall do that later, thanks
[01:03] <arrrghhh> appamajig, depends on the application of your rig.  a production server, i'd say ext3.  home use, ext4 is fine.  ext3 is more stable, ext4 is faster in several different ways.
[01:03] <mikeru> horkhorkhork: sorry I can't help you there. that's what happened in my case, and it was a rather weird one
[01:03] <sundoko> good morning all
[01:03] <appamajig> crypt-0: hmm... general programming, media server and normal, personal comp
[01:03] <mikeru> ext4? FASTER?!
[01:03] <cablop> mikeru i'm going for environment, but... i think i'll need to find the correct java i need... there's the openjdk, but...
[01:03] <appamajig> arrrghhh: k thanks
[01:03] <cablop> but i think it's not as complete as the sun java is... and cause i need to run a sort of tomcat... then...
[01:03] <crypt-0> ext4 is getting stable enough for production
[01:04] <mikeru> arrrghhh: ext4 was so unbearably slow that I choose instead ext3 for my macbook. specially with dpkg
[01:04] <appamajig> I read about it in some forums and whatnot, but I thought I'd just ask in here and see what the general consensus was... :)
[01:04] <cablop> ext4 is faster but not by itself
[01:04] <arrrghhh> mikeru, don't care 'bout your macbook.  ext4 is blazing fast on my server.
[01:04] <the_e> sorry for the complaining before dudes
[01:04] <mikeru> cablop: I highly recommend sun's java even if not open src.
[01:04] <the_e> got it all to work
[01:04] <appamajig> cablop: not by itself?
[01:04] <KE1HA> crypt-0, Is for after windows blasted Grub, but shoud do the trick: http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html
[01:04] <arrrghhh> i've just seen people run into bugs with ext4 and nfs.
[01:04] <the_e> I'm a XBMC guru at this point, so if anyone needs help
[01:04] <mikeru> arrrghhh: don't care about your server, cause my server is slowwwww with ext4
[01:04] <arrrghhh> which, i run nfs... but haven't run into issues haha.
[01:04] <cablop> it's faster cause it buffer the writings to disk until the system is idle to write them
[01:04] <cablop> or something like that
[01:04] <arrrghhh> mikeru, who puts a server on a macbook?  lol.
[01:04] <mikeru> do too, nfs + afp
[01:04] <appamajig> so ext4 and nfs have problems?
[01:05] <arrrghhh> appamajig, i saw a bug on the forums about it, but i run nfs with ext4 no prob.
[01:05] <cablop> the downside is sometimes ext4 writes to the disk that the file is in the disk, but the data is NOT in the disk
[01:05] <mikeru> arrrghhh: on my server. after learning from the mistake, I instead choose ext3 for my mb
[01:05] <appamajig> hmmm
[01:05] <cablop> that was fixed in the kernel.... but seems like a workaround, not a real fix
[01:05] <arrrghhh> mikeru, huh.  dunno.
[01:05] <arrrghhh> works for me
[01:05] <sundoko> ubuntu weaknesses in the system a long hibernation
[01:05] <crypt-0> KE1HA, ive lready dont that
[01:05] <appamajig> mikeru: sorry for the newb question... mb? (main boot?)
[01:05] <johntron> what's the best way to do packet prioritization on ubuntu? i've used PF on freebsd, but can't find something similar for ubuntu. tc seems difficult
[01:05] <KE1HA> appamajig, all of them have problems, EXT3 is porbable the most widly used still, wiuth risersf being the most stable, and fastest, however olke boy that came up with is is in hot water.
[01:06] <jason_wt> hello, i asked a question here yesturday regarding using sudo from a non sudoer account by requesting the password of a sudoer account
[01:06] <cablop> anyway i was hearing oracle is going to release a file system that used b+ trees and will provide a tool to go from ext3 to btrfs and back
[01:06] <cablop> so i'll stick to ext3 until that day :P
[01:06] <KE1HA> crypt-0, so your Grub is still dumping you to the grup prompt ?
[01:06] <arrrghhh> appamajig, if you have any questions on stability, stick with ext3.
[01:06] <jason_wt> i have solved my problem most of the way, by using runas in te sudoers file, however i get one problem
[01:06] <mikeru> appamajig: mb = macbook
[01:06] <crypt-0> KE1HA, Yes.
[01:07] <appamajig> mikeru: aaah, lol gotcha
[01:07] <arrrghhh> or motherboard more generally haha
[01:07] <appamajig> ok, thanks everyone for the general info
[01:07] <magicianlord> should i install a gui or run headless?
[01:07] <cablop> anyway a mac is nowadays just an expensive version of a PC, wrapped up in cute plastic and aluminium and some colors (very few)
[01:08] <KE1HA> crypt-0, and you installed : grub-install /dev/sda [sda being your target partition] after the chroot ?
[01:08] <appamajig> I'm gonna go with ext4 for both (I do nightly backups, so if something terrible happens, I'll survive)
[01:08] <jason_wt> when i run a command in the terminal prefixed wih sudo, it asks for the password of the runas_default user that i specifed; however when i launch something like synaptic from the menu, it prompts for the current user password, not the one of runas user
[01:08] <mikeru> KE1HA: I wonder why reiserfs fell into despair. just bcos its creater killed his wife & is in jail doesn't mean the project should've been abandoned. after all, it's open source
[01:08] <sundoko> my ubuntu hibernate to long, how to fix this?
[01:08] <jason_wt> any way to fix this?
[01:08] <NeverCast> Does anyone know what will change when I hit the Upgrade button
[01:08] <NeverCast> to go from Karmic
[01:08] <NeverCast> To Lucid
[01:08] <arrrghhh> magicianlord, i run headless, but it's really dependent on what you're doing with the machine.  are you going to be accessing it physically, or can you manage it remotely?  how powerful is the hardware?  are you concerned about overhead?
[01:08] <KE1HA> mikeru, and he sole the technology :-) ...
[01:08] <NeverCast> I mean settings wise, no data loss or anything?
[01:08] <mikeru> oshit
[01:09] <appamajig> NeverCast: your teeth will be generally whiter (but the edges will be darker)
[01:09] <Myth`> Is there a way for me to make a permanent 'alias' command with a couple of switches? I'm trying to mount / unmount a remote disk with sshfs and manually typing the command every time is getting annoying.
[01:09] <magicianlord> arrrghhh: i like it for simplicity. the hardware is powerful enough. dual core amd64, 2gb
[01:09] <KE1HA> Myth`, edit your bash prodile and add the one you want to it.
[01:10] <arrrghhh> magicianlord, then keep it headless.  i have a powerful *enough* server for a gui, but i have no need for one.   less packages to update :D
[01:10] <NeverCast> appamajig, That was very metaphorical.
[01:10] <mikeru> JUST WAIT FOR BTRFS
[01:10] <blendmaster1024_> quick quiz! what's the best raw processor for linux?
[01:10] <magicianlord> arrrghhh: my point exactly. fewer pkgs to update
[01:10] <arrrghhh> what about ZFS?
[01:10] <KB1JWQ|Birfday> mikeru: Please troll less.
[01:10] <tensorpudding> ZFS won't be coming to the Linux kernel anytime soon, for sure
[01:10] <appamajig> NeverCast: I'm sorry, I couldnt help myself... it was lame, I know...
[01:10] <KE1HA> Myth`, Here's a noe little How-Too: http://www.mediacollege.com/linux/command/alias.html
[01:10] <mikeru> dishonor on me! :(
[01:10] <KB1JWQ|Birfday> tensorpudding: Yeah, that's a licensing morass.
[01:11] <tensorpudding> You can use it with FUSE though.
[01:11] <arrrghhh> tensorpudding, well... it's kinda supported.  but definitely not in the kernel, correct.
[01:11] <NeverCast> appamajig, Nawh It was alright, Just didn't help with the question :P
[01:11] <Myth`> KE1HA: Thanks, I'll have a look now.
[01:11] <NeverCast> appamajig, It actually got me thinking before realising it was just off-topic :P
[01:11] <tensorpudding> Or consider switching to FreeBSD, their ZFS support is almost great.
[01:11] <KB1JWQ|Birfday> tensorpudding: Yeah, it's slightly old, but 8.1 just came out with a newer version IIRC.
[01:11] <hiexpo> i had an issue this am that when i tried to open a specfic folder on my thumb drive it would set all permissions to read only , but i could remove it and reload the drive and as long as i did not open the folder causing that was causing this everything was fine has anyone ever had this happen before ? i believe it was a corrupt file ?
[01:11] <blendmaster1024_> mikeru, yes, dishonour on you. see /msg ubottu offtopic and /msg ubottu caps.
[01:12] <appamajig> NeverCast in my defense, I did do a little research, and some people said that it worked great, and other people just said they do clean installs, and other people said to do a backup first... *shrug* so who knows :)
[01:12] <mikeru> damn Sun! ZFS' license issue was all planned!
[01:12] <KB1JWQ|Birfday> hiexpo: What filesystem was on the thumbdrive?
[01:12] <arrrghhh> tensorpudding, i'm trying to actually.  just started tho, still working out all the idiosyncrasies.
[01:12] <tensorpudding> The only problem is that sysinstall doesn't support it
[01:12] <Sia-> any one use ipod shuffle 2 GB silver under ubuntu? if yes wich apps? because gtkpod worked and added music, but i can just hear "please use itunes to sync music to this ipod" any idea?
[01:12] <tensorpudding> I use FreeBSD on my servers.
[01:12] <mikeru> blendmaster1024_: "quick quiz! what's the best raw processor for linux?" seems soo offtopic...
[01:12] <datacrusher> anyone? i got a 10.04 install, worked fine till today i got a blank screen with a initramfs, busybox message
[01:12] <KE1HA> Myth`, Just google Linux Alias Command, Bash Profile and there's loads of thigns you cna do.
[01:12] <arrrghhh> not for ZFS, but that's definitely a nice addition.
[01:12] <mikeru> whatevaah
[01:12] <datacrusher> like this http://img258.imageshack.us/i/sunp0165ns4.jpg/
[01:12] <hiexpo> KB1JWQ|Birfday,  i formated it hee on ubuntu fat
[01:12] <NeverCast> appamajig, I hear a backup is easy these days, Dump everything into a tar ball :P
[01:12] <blendmaster1024_> mikeru, should I have said ubuntu? I was asking what the best app was.
[01:13] <mikeru> blendmaster1024_: you should ;)
[01:13] <cablop> appamajig: what by itself?
[01:13] <Scunizi> mikeru: if you want raw processing check out "darktable".. they have a repo for ubuntu and is very similar to Lightroom by Adobe.. what camera do you have?
[01:13] <Myth`> KE1HA: Got it. Is there a way to pass a flag to the alias? IE sshfsm -mount / -unmount?
[01:14] <appamajig> NeverCast: yeah, I do a nightly backup like that of my terrabyte drive to my two 320s
[01:14] <Sia-> nobody :)
[01:14] <mikeru> blendmaster1024_: there's your answer @Scunizi
[01:14] <KE1HA> I woudn't do that, I would right a small script to do that. But I think you could do it in the Alais, I've not tried it.
[01:14] <appamajig> NeverCast: it creates an incredible amount of confidence :) I'm safe, no matter what :)
[01:14] <cablop> i think i'm going to delete the openjdk... it's open, but not for production, not yet
[01:14] <blendmaster1024_> Scunizi, that was me, I have the pentax K-x, it uses DNG raw.
[01:15] <NeverCast> appamajig, Yeah that's sweet :D
[01:15] <cablop> or is there a way to say ubuntu WHICH java i want by default?
[01:15] <NeverCast> appamajig, My HDD is the size of my backup drive
[01:15] <Random832> I'm trying to set up my brother's system - on kubuntu; wireless isn't working ("b43" module)
[01:15] <hiexpo> KB1JWQ|Birfday,  but when i right click on it and properties is says file sys msdos
[01:15] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024_: mikeru .. ah wrong nick.. blendmaster1024_ check out darktable.. no repo but they do have a PPA that is updated nightly.  check it out
[01:15] <Random832> anyone know how to fix it?
[01:15] <arrrghhh> so any rtorrent users in here?
[01:15] <NeverCast> appamajig, I can fit the entire contents of my backup, on my laptop
[01:15] <mikeru> cablop: alternatives
[01:15] <NeverCast> appamajig, lol.
[01:15] <Random832> it just says the network is down whatever i try to do
[01:15] <gewt> I prefer transmission-cli
[01:15] <mikeru> cablop: aptitude and synaptic take care of that.
[01:15] <cablop> alternatives... clic cli, something is moving on my brain
[01:15] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024_: I think they use ufraw but am not really sure.. good support for my nikon and canon's though.
[01:15] <arrrghhh> gewt, thanks?
[01:15] <cablop> alternatives in synaptic?
[01:16] <dahud> on-screen notifications sometimes enter a loop where they re-appear as soon as they fade.  How can I fix this?
[01:16] <arrrghhh> there was some seriously lacking issue that i had with transmission.
[01:16] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024_: they are also on #darktable but are in England and typically only active in the mornings (Pacific Standard Time)
[01:16] <appamajig> NeverCast: I would like to do that... but it would drive me crazy to waste that much space... I thought about getting another terabyte and doing a raid 0, but in the end, I didn't want to spend the money, so I just tar onto the spare drives that were sitting around from an old system :) I'm happy with it
[01:16] <actionparsnip> hey guys, what file do I need to edit to set modprobe options of a module please
[01:16] <arrrghhh> can't remember it now.  drove me mad after using it for 30 seconds tho.
[01:16] <NeverCast> appamajig, It's better than no backup, Which I currently have.
[01:16] <PeterDrop> anybody wanna help this poor mans, with his sound card :D have no sound :::(
[01:17] <actionparsnip> the module is psmouse
[01:17] <tweak> does anyone know where in ubuntu i can find which pci or pci-e controllers i have
[01:17] <hporse> hi. i'm trying to change my video card driver to radeonhd. the ubuntu help says i have to open the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. the file does not exist on my system. what shall i do in that case?
[01:17] <hporse> here is the site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonHD#Configuration
[01:17] <bihari> i have question but its not related to ubuntu problem
[01:17] <Scunizi> tweak: sudo lshw will give you more than what you need information wise....
[01:17] <thune3> hiexpo: you would likely see a message in dmesg or /var/log/syslog about drive being switched to read only because of errors encountered. Though you might loose some data on an errored filesystem, i would recommend fsck-ing the unmounted partition.
[01:17] <arrrghhh> tweak, lspci and lshw i believe.
[01:17] <NeverCast> Anyone know of a method in encrypting my entire HDD? With a distro already installed...
[01:17] <appamajig> NeverCast: that's how I've done it most of my life, but I've had a couple of crashes that left me in tears
[01:17] <bihari> i am not able to join #c
[01:18] <NeverCast> appamajig, Been there man, Seriously been there
[01:18] <appamajig> NeverCast: it hurts to lose about a year's worth of work
[01:18] <arrrghhh> NeverCast, truecrypt...
[01:18] <bihari> i have register my nick also but i cant able to have acess
[01:18] <actionparsnip> tweak: lspci
[01:18] <NeverCast> appamajig, Plus 20gigs of music, 5 years of photos
[01:18] <actionparsnip> bihari: you must be registered to join it
[01:18] <KE1HA> Myth`, jsut onre final thought, dont name tha alais "mount or umount" .. LOL
[01:18] <ejv> getting this, how do I punch through?: The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[01:18] <NeverCast> appamajig, Everyone suggests truecrypt so guess it's the only option lol.
[01:18] <bihari> Yes i have register
[01:18] <bjegovic> how can i play counter stike on linux ? when i try with wine, grafic is too bad, i have 128 mb grafic card
[01:18] <kow> just make a turecrypt "partition"
[01:19] <actionparsnip> bihari: try: /join ##csharp
[01:19] <ejv> NeverCast: no it's not the only option, dm_crypt is IMO better.
[01:19] <arrrghhh> NeverCast, no, just the best IMHO.
[01:19] <bihari> but i wants to learn C
[01:19] <KE1HA> ejv,  what are your trying to do when you get that message ?>
[01:19] <ejv> KE1HA: trying to update
[01:19] <bihari> not cSHARP
[01:19] <thune3> ejv: apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:19] <mikeru> C#
[01:19] <ejv> dist-upgrade for a kernel update ?
[01:19] <bjegovic> how can i play counter stike on linux ? when i try with wine, grafic is too bad, i have 128 mb grafic card
[01:19] <actionparsnip> bihari: /join ##c    then
[01:19] <mikeru> is pure bull--
[01:20] <bihari> I DID
[01:20] <NeverCast> ejv, arrrghhh, What's the pros/cons of dm_crypt vs truecrypt
[01:20] <KE1HA> ejv, then keep them, and afterwards clean up old Kernels and Headers
[01:20] <kow> bjegovic, get a better gfx card?
[01:20] <actionparsnip> bihari: failing that, ask in #freenode
[01:20] <arrrghhh> NeverCast, haven't used either.  i'd google it my friend.
[01:20] <bihari> Cannot join #c (Channel is invite only) << its says
[01:20] <mikeru> try ##c
[01:20] <arrrghhh> bihari, ##c
[01:20] <bjegovic> when i am on windows cs work perfect
[01:20] <mikeru> dunno
[01:20] <kow> truecrypt is kinda fishy, ever been to the site?
[01:20] <actionparsnip> bjegovic: drop graphical settings lower to suit your hardware
[01:20] <arrrghhh> kow, yea, why/
[01:20] <actionparsnip> bjegovic: windows has different support so will act differently
[01:21] <bjegovic> :(
[01:21] <ejv> NeverCast: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems#Current Ubuntu Release <---read
[01:21] <bihari> * Cannot join ##c (You are banned). coz i have pasted some of my programme there in main channel
[01:21] <bjegovic> i wanna play it :(
[01:21] <kow> it is just, there is no info about who makes/maintains it
[01:21] <KE1HA> bjegovic, hence the diffrence between WinDoze & Linux
[01:21] <kow> and the source code is always released like a release late
[01:21] <bihari> i dont know how long they will baned me :(
[01:21] <bjegovic> what xD
[01:21] <ejv> games suck on linux bjegovic, stick with windows for gaming
[01:21] <NeverCast> ejv, thanks I'll look over that
[01:21] <kow> and people get banned in the forum for asking questions
[01:21] <actionparsnip> bjegovic: moan at your video chip brand, if they support linux better then it will run better, also native steam is on the way which should make it run nicer
[01:21] <bjegovic> ok
[01:22] <kow> cant wait for steam on linux
[01:22] <tensorpudding> there a few native games for linux, though i think the better ones have been ported also
[01:22] <bjegovic> i am going to delete linux and install windows, byee
[01:22] <kow> kk
[01:22] <appamajig> bihari: I'm asking them to unban you...
[01:22] <kow> gl
[01:22] <thune3> ejv: you can run apt-get in simulate mode first if you are worried about what it is going to do. sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade
[01:22] <arrrghhh> bjegovic, basically what everyone has said.  use windows to play games, unless the game specifically supports linux (which is improving)
[01:22] <ejv> bjegovic: or do a dual install... lol
[01:22] <bihari> thanks you sir appamajig
[01:22] <KE1HA> bjegovic, that's an option, but not one worth going after in my opinion.
[01:22] <bihari> now i wil use codepad
[01:22] <bihari> promise
[01:22] <kow> arrrghhh, i agree
[01:22] <arrrghhh> wait... he's banned?  why did you get banned bihari
[01:22] <appamajig> bihari: they may not do it... but you never know
[01:22] <ejv> thans thune3
[01:22] <ejv> thanks*
[01:23] <bjegovic> i just wanna play cs
[01:23] <kow> windows is only useful for games
[01:23] <appamajig> bihari: btw I told them that you promise not to spam again...
[01:23] <kow> then use it in windows
[01:23] <bihari> i have not used codepad.org
[01:23] <arrrghhh> bjegovic, so boot windows.
[01:23] <bjegovic> ok byee
[01:23] <bihari> i pasted my problem in main room
[01:23] <sander> Is asound used by default in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[01:23] <sundoko> hibernate ubuntu to long
[01:23] <arrrghhh> bihari, you didn't use pastebin?  well there's your problem right there.
[01:23] <KE1HA> kow, Ditto, what he said, but Linux is getting there, Playonlinux has come a long way for games.
[01:23] <cablop> hibernate is failing in my ubuntu :(
[01:23] <sundoko> hibernate ubuntu to long
[01:23] <bihari> Yah coz i am new user arrrghhh
[01:24] <kow> i have yet to use playonlinux
[01:24] <hiexpo> thune3,  it was weird it only did this on that one folder  > but if i opened that folder all files on the usb would be switched to read only file system
[01:24] <bihari> so i dont know about the codepad
[01:24] <kow> is it worth checking out?
[01:24] <appamajig> bihari: they asked if you learned the lesson of reading error messages...
[01:24] <arrrghhh> bihari, or pastebin?  you're a programmer!?!?!?
[01:24] <bihari> Nops i am just a student arrrghhh
[01:24] <arrrghhh> kow, basically customized WINE stuff.  just like cedega or any of the others.
[01:24] <appamajig> bihari: bah, leave him alone, we're all newbs at some point :P
[01:24] <sundoko> hibernate ubuntu to long, fix please
[01:24] <psilo2> Why does aptitude want to remove mysql-server when I ask it to remove libdspam-drv-mysql?  Obviously mysql does not depend on dspam.
[01:24] <bihari> but i want to be a programmer
[01:25] <thune3> hiexpo: my guess is in line with your initial suspicion, that the filesystem error is with that directory or its contents
[01:25] <appamajig> whoops that wasn't supposed to be directed at you bihari
[01:25] <arrrghhh> bihari, you need to do some reading before you jump in chat rooms my friend.
[01:25] <arrrghhh> LOTS of reading.
[01:25] <kow> arrrghhh, i havent messed around with wine tbh
[01:25] <kow> ive used it to run a couple .exe's but that is it
[01:25] <arrrghhh> kow, really?  i haven't much either, i don't see the point.  it's cool, but buggy.
[01:25] <kow> havent installed anything in it
[01:25] <bihari> well i have some problem with my programe
[01:25] <bihari> so i just go there to learn C and rectify my problem
[01:26] <cablop> i'm willing to cry/..... there are tooo many things not ready in my ubuntu box!
[01:26] <arrrghhh> bihari, well that program didn't just materialize, did it?
[01:26] <cablop> :(
[01:26] <webchat> why does cat /proc/cpuinfo report 2.6ghz under load even though my cpu is overclocked to 3.2ghz?
[01:26] <KE1HA> Wine has its uses, but I find in most things that I really "Need", I can find an equal and most oftern better native Linux Application.
[01:26] <neil_d> I am having trouble with a script... it uses the scp command... with run via a desktop icon using 'sudo <script>' I get the output from scp.... when I run using 'gksudo <script>' (preferred) I get no output from scp... but the file is copied... I would like to see the output... how can I do this?
[01:26] <tensorpudding> There's some exe's running my system right now, but not in wine
[01:26] <bihari> arrrghhh,  dont know sir :-s
[01:26] <carlos_eduardo> j #ubuntu-br
[01:26] <arrrghhh> webchat, how are you oc'ing it?
[01:26] <bihari> http://codepad.org/Extux9Nm
[01:27] <bihari> look i have question why its says time out  in 2 line
[01:27] <webchat> arrrghhh: fsb increase, it shows 3.2ghz under both bios and cpu-z under windows
[01:27] <webchat> so, the value is simply incorrect?
[01:27] <KE1HA> neil_d, have the script output its action to a logfile.tst or somethign.
[01:27] <kow> is it worth it to upgrade to 10.10, or should i just stay at 10.04?
[01:27] <hiexpo> thune3, scared me lol it's what i have all my apps and stuff backed up on   > so i went and gotta another one today for a second backup     ppppppppppfffffff
[01:27] <SubCool> hey- im setting up a VPN, Does that make the IP of my box perminate to that IP, or do i have a LAN Ip and a VPN Ip?
[01:27] <webchat> i guess the os can only change the stepping for power saving, so not an issue
[01:27] <arrrghhh> webchat, perhaps.  i'm not sure what that value reads tbh.
[01:27] <Lantizia> Anyone know what the max length a unix username can be?
[01:27] <psilo2> SubCool: both.  boxes don't have IPs, interfaces have IPs.
[01:27] <kow> Lantizia, is it 12?
[01:27] <SubCool> psilo2, right, but i only have one eth on it
[01:27] <webchat> arrrghhh: well, my cpu can't even be set to 2.6ghz under the current fsb
[01:28] <KE1HA> kow, if you dont mind testing and bug hunting 10.10 will be ok, but with anythign, if stability and performance are key factors, upgrades are always a risk.
[01:28] <psilo2> SubCool: virtual interfaces included
[01:28] <Lantizia> kow, I don't know - is it?
[01:28] <arrrghhh> webchat, what is the chip clocked at from the factory?
[01:28] <k0sh> Lantizia: i think pam defines it somwhere
[01:28] <psilo2> SubCool: you'll have eth0 (probably LAN) and some vpn interface as well, even if both use the same physical NIC.
[01:28] <SubCool> works- ok. thanks. thats what i thought, but... alot of what i have learned with networking dosnt work the right way.
[01:28] <webchat> arrrghhh: 2.6ghz, so I guess it's reading hardware strings rather than actual clock speed
[01:28] <SubCool> great- thanks. just needed a reminder
[01:28] <SubCool> ty
[01:29] <kow> KE1HA, well, im always using alphas, but i really have my desktop configured the way i like it, and im starting school soon, and dont want to mess with ti really
[01:29] <psilo2> yw
[01:29] <bihari> arrrghhh,   i cant see the output on my gcc
[01:29] <webchat> arrrghhh: dmesg says [    0.000000] Detected 3218.389 MHz processor.
[01:29] <Lantizia> k0sh, where do I look for that?
[01:29] <neil_d> KE1HA: but I still won't see the output of scp then.
[01:29] <KE1HA> kow, that's the beauty of Virtual Desktops, have the best of both worlds.
[01:29] <arrrghhh> webchat, there you go.
[01:29] <kow> KE1HA, true
[01:29] <webchat> arrrghhh: then [    1.195928] powernow-k8:    0 : pstate 0 (2600 MHz)
[01:29] <kow> i think im just gonna stay on 10.04
[01:30] <kow> is there a release date for 10.10?
[01:30] <arrrghhh> bihari, first that page isn't loading.  second, this is not a c discussion room.
[01:30] <arrrghhh> kow, it's every 6 months, so october.
[01:30] <kow> arrrghhh, k
[01:30] <bihari> i am just 18 yer old . so plz  help me in learning :((
[01:30] <uRock> !10.10
[01:30] <arrrghhh> i think they bumped this one back a couple of weeks from normal from the plan.
[01:30] <arrrghhh> bihari, quit making excuses.
[01:30] <bihari> i am noob :((
[01:31] <kow> i was just wondering if there was a date yet, but i doubt it
[01:31] <KE1HA> neil_d, it will be in the log file, but not displaied on the screen unless you do something like: tail -f scplogfile.txt  or somethign similar whuile it's happening.
[01:31] <arrrghhh> bihari, i started programming at 6 years old.  why are you still making excuses?
[01:31] <arrrghhh> kow, there's always a date :D
[01:31] <bihari> i am not making a excuses sir but :(
[01:32] <webchat> bihari: go learn python..
[01:32] <bihari>  i have curosity to lean c
[01:32]  * kow glares at arrrghhh
[01:32] <psilo2> Please, I'm stuck: why does aptitude want to remove mysql-server when I ask it to remove libdspam-drv-mysql?  Obviously mysql does not depend on dspam.  I need to reinstall the dspam package to get default config files.
[01:32] <bihari> no 1st c then after any programe
[01:32] <KE1HA> its a good thing Im not a programmer, my typing is terrible, talk about a Bug Hunt exercise :-)
[01:32] <arrrghhh> kow, lol gimmie a sec.
[01:32] <nixbox> hi
[01:32] <thune3> webchat: are you looking at "cpu MHz" entry in /proc/cpuinfo or the "model name"?
[01:32] <nixbox> my sound works with all apps except with firefox on youtube, i have the flash plugin installed, what could be the problem?
[01:32] <arrrghhh> bihari, then buy some books, read documentation online, don't go bugging people in a chat room that has nothing to do with C!
[01:33] <webchat> cpu MHz
[01:33] <brianl> I am running ubuntu, is there a way to install another os on a different partition from an .iso i have, without burning it to a cd?
[01:33] <bihari> Yes i have book
[01:33] <bihari> but i got problem when i run it on GCC
[01:33] <KE1HA> brianl, Safest way is a virtual desktop.
[01:33] <bihari> Thats why i am here to clearify my problem
[01:33] <arrrghhh> bihari, i don't see how that applies to this room....
[01:34] <webchat> thune3: I see other people have this issue, the module always assumes fsb of 200mhz apparently
[01:34] <uRock> kow, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-release-schedule.html
[01:34] <mneptok> bihari: "run it on GCC?"
[01:34] <brianl> KE1HA: there is no way to install from iso without the cd?
[01:34] <kow> thanks uRock
[01:34]  * mneptok had no idea you could use a C compiler as an OS
[01:34] <psilo2> He is either trolling or completely dense, either way that program's not going to compile anytime soon.  Let's all focus on my issue :)
[01:34] <Lantizia> k0sh, well I just tried to make a user called a23456789012345678901234567890123 and it failed
[01:34] <Craig_Dem> Yes. Put it on a USB.
[01:35] <Craig_Dem> Or use a network boot.
[01:35] <Lantizia> k0sh, but a2345678901234567890123456789012 worked - so it must be 32
[01:35] <arrrghhh> kow, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-release-schedule.html
[01:35] <kow> lol
[01:35] <KE1HA> brianl, yes, but you risk your primnary installation, if you willing to take that risk, and are comfortable with doing so, no problem.
[01:35] <arrrghhh> kow, i told you it has a date!
[01:35] <kow> arrrghhh, looks like uRock beat you to it
[01:35] <little-boy>  /msg nickserv register password email
[01:35] <arrrghhh> oct 28.
[01:35] <arrrghhh> kow, der, i was so busy lookin for it i didn't notice.  bwhahaha
[01:35] <brianl> KE1HA: okay, so how do i go about installing it from the iso file?
[01:35] <kow> so expect it around halloween...
[01:36] <AwakE> \join
[01:36] <kow> anyone else have massive issues with flash in 64 bit?
[01:36] <nixbox> bihari: lol, you never increment i, so of course the while loop will run endlessly :P
[01:36] <arrrghhh> kow, they're pretty good about releasing on that day for better or worse... which can cause issues, but it usually doesn't cause show-stopping ones.
[01:37] <arrrghhh> kow, 64-bit flash was a very, very recent development from adobe.  you used to have to run 32-bit libraries of your browser to get flash to work...
[01:37] <psilo2> nixbox: everyone is (rightly) telling him he's in the wrong channel, don't encourage the guy
[01:37] <KE1HA> brianl, You use the live-CD and setup partitions for multiple distos.
[01:37] <webchat> arrrghhh: but it has no gpu acceleration?
[01:37] <webchat> at least in my experience
[01:37] <uRock> little-boy, do that on freenode
[01:37] <little-boy>  /msg nickserv register 460021  an0nym0us.g33k@yahoo.com
[01:37] <webchat> full-screen 720p flash video stutters..
[01:37] <arrrghhh> webchat, what.
[01:37] <arrrghhh> oh
[01:37] <nixbox> psilo2: sorry for that, just gave him a hint, won't do more :P
[01:37] <kow> well i have flash working, its just i cant use the mouse half the time in youtube and other stuff
[01:37] <arrrghhh> yea, flash sucks on linux in general, imho.  sorry, it just _does_
[01:38] <little-boy> ops !
[01:38] <kow> i have to use the keyboard shortcuts
[01:38] <KE1HA> brianl, here's setup for doing the pre-partitioning: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/non-debian-partitioning.html
[01:38] <nixbox> bihari: join ##c
[01:38] <actionparsnip> little-boy: you may want to register outside any channel to avoid that
[01:38] <kow> but i installed opera today, and it works completely awesome
[01:38] <webchat> yep, death to adobe...
[01:38] <webchat> but opera isn't foss!
[01:38] <maco> little-boy: also probably not use an all-numeric password...
[01:38] <leo__> ubuntu
[01:38] <webchat> it's corporate proprietary evilness!
[01:38] <KE1HA> brianl, if you've already used the entier Hard-Disk, then you'll need to re-partition a portion of the drive to allow for the additional distro's
[01:39] <psilo2> opera mini goes through opera proxy servers, no option to bypass them.  That's when I decided Opera is evil.
[01:39] <psilo2> I will never use it.
[01:39] <arrrghhh> chrome on linux is pretty sweet too :D
[01:39] <brianl> KE1HA: Okay, thanks.
[01:39] <actionparsnip> webchat: if it performs the job it is intended to do and better than other tested options, then why not use it?
[01:39] <webchat> actionparsnip: what does?
[01:39] <kow> chrome doesnt have perfect flash though
[01:39] <arrrghhh> psilo2, yea... but that's why the mobile browsing experience is so good.  sad.
[01:40] <arrrghhh> kow, not chrome's problem... again, goes back to flash!
[01:40] <kow> im only using opera for youtube and flash things
[01:40] <kow> i know
[01:40] <actionparsnip> webchat: if the user sees opera as the ideal choice for their situation s/he should use it as it suits their needs
[01:40] <arrrghhh> opera works well for you with flash?  huh.  damn presto engine.
[01:40] <infomomo> Hey guys, is the search in nautilus still broken. i am having a lot of trouble searching for files using nautilus search
[01:40] <webchat> actionparsnip: of course, it was a tongue-in-cheek remark
[01:40] <actionparsnip> kow: opera is fine, the fact that it is devloped to run native on linux is a step in the right direction
[01:40] <kow> i use chromuim quite often, but i need to find out how to use userscripts
[01:40] <actionparsnip> webchat: i see :)
[01:40] <Craig_Dem> Since when did any linux anything have perfect flash.
[01:40] <leo__> brasil
[01:41] <KE1HA> arrrghhh, no mater which Browser you pick, there's issues, it's a compromise on what matters most to the user.
[01:41] <arrrghhh> Craig_Dem, evidently opera haha.
[01:41] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, agreed... did i say something racist?  or browerist?
[01:41] <Craig_Dem> I use chrome for linux and on my mac.
[01:41] <KE1HA> and that's not a Linux Issue, it's a Browser issue.
[01:41] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, what, flash?
[01:41] <actionparsnip> kow: arora is decent too, and fast. although chrome/ium's pre dns thing is niiice
[01:42] <kow> Craig_Dem, flash is running perfectly in opera, for me anyways
[01:42] <lucenut> So I have my ubuntu machine on the local network. I can ping it's IP from the other machines. But I can't access the shared drive on the ubuntu from windows machines.
[01:42] <webchat> hrm, does anybody else hate when /overly/-insideous foss-endorsing corporations ban you from creating derivatives of their trademark/logo?
[01:42] <KE1HA> arrrghhh, No, not at all, just no matter which one I've used in the past, Ive hit problems somwhere, so I pick the one I like best and live with the compromise.
[01:42] <lucenut> I went into sharing options on a folder on ubuntu. And it told me it had to install some windows pack...
[01:42] <actionparsnip> lucenut: have you shared folders? You can't share drives
[01:42] <Mr_Sonoma> lucenut, have samba installed?
[01:42] <rww> webchat: Feel free to ask #ubuntu-offtopic ;P
[01:42] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, i just end up using them all, sometimes in the same session.  same goes for windoes.
[01:43] <lucenut> So I did that, then it let me check "Share this folder"
[01:43] <ZandreBran> Hi guys. please, I'm using pbbuilder, it compiles, but the deb just go to the documentation. Please could you help me?
[01:43] <Craig_Dem> I've never liked opera, I used it for a short time when it was the fastest browser. Bunk just prefer chrome's minimalism.
[01:43] <arrrghhh> lucenut, samba?
[01:43] <lucenut> I didn't install Samba.
[01:43] <Craig_Dem> But I*
[01:43] <KE1HA> arrrghhh, rogetr that, same here.
[01:43] <actionparsnip> lucenut: ok, is the windows machine windows 7?
[01:43] <lucenut> Yes
[01:43] <hiexpo> deb file will tell you the problem dependencies
[01:43] <actionparsnip> lucenut: guess how I knew :)
[01:43] <KE1HA> Evening actionparsnip
[01:43] <arrrghhh> lol
[01:43] <webchat> rww: sorry, I just hate "we love user freedom", "but you're not free to use our brand!"
[01:44] <kow> Craig_Dem, opera is way faster for me then chromium, but userscripts are slow to load
[01:44] <lucenut> When I try to hit \\192.168.123.104\ it asks for username/pw.
[01:44] <rww> webchat: I'm not overly fond of it either, but it's offtopic for this channel.
[01:44] <kow> but that may be my hdd
[01:44] <psilo2> arrrghhh: I'm not 100% convinced their proxy servers help THAT much -- and it should still be configurable.  I mean, if the proxies are that great, I could just run my own.
[01:44] <actionparsnip> lucenut: you must run: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    set the password to the same as the login password of $USER
[01:44] <lucenut> How did you know?
[01:44] <webchat> rww: ok, sorry
[01:44] <lucenut> Set what password?
[01:44] <actionparsnip> lucenut: Win7 operates samba differently for some reason so you must use samba authentication.
[01:44] <arrrghhh> psilo2, i agree it should be configurable.  but on my phone, nothing even comes close to opera.  skyfire is OK, but still not as good (and I think they use the same proxy method as well...)
[01:44] <infomomo> Any of you guys experiencing problems with Nautilus SEARCH ???
[01:44] <actionparsnip> lucenut: the command will make a samba user under the same accountname as your current user
[01:44] <oslo> hello
[01:45] <jguzikowski> hey guys, this may seem like a silly question..but does ubuntu support yahoo games? like is ther anything ill need to install to play it
[01:45] <psilo2> arrrghhh: I only have a blackberry and opera is awful on it (like every other browser) so I can't speak for sure.
[01:45] <actionparsnip> jguzikowski: if you have java installed, sure
[01:45] <kow> jguzikowski, java
[01:45] <arrrghhh> jguzikowski, probably not.  try it out on a live cd.
[01:45] <KE1HA> With Samba, you always have to have at least one User/PW combination to enact shares of any kind.
[01:45] <arrrghhh> psilo2, ah.  i have a winmo phone that i run android on as well, and opera is still the best of all of 'em.
[01:45] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: hey dude
[01:45] <kunji> Hey everyone, does anyone know how well, if at all, the Mimo 720-F works with linux?  Info here, http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mimo-720-f-flex-screen-mountable-touchscreen-usb-monitor  There are no official linux drivers for it, so if anyone knows if it works anyways or what needs to be done to make it work, that would be pretty awesome.
[01:45] <jguzikowski> actionparsnip: is java a bitch to install? i think i may have it but not sure
[01:46] <psilo2> arrrghhh: I think the bottleneck on mobile is still very much the wireless connection, and not internet latencies, so I must conclude that a caching proxy isn't going to help much at all.
[01:46] <psilo2> arrrghhh: I really think they're just after some data mining.
[01:46] <actionparsnip> infomomo: not used it, I use find ni terminal
[01:46] <IdleOne> !language | jguzikowski
[01:46] <hiexpo> java easy
[01:46] <actionparsnip> jguzikowski: I'll assume lucid: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-install-sun-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[01:46] <arrrghhh> psilo2, PIE (pocket internet exploder) is just absolutely abysmal, and fennec doesn't run on it yet.
[01:46] <jguzikowski> IdleOne, sorry about that
[01:46] <arrrghhh> psilo2, so i really don't have a good comparison.
[01:46] <lucenut> Woohoo! That did it. Thanks guys!
[01:46] <infomomo> actionparsnip: thx bro
[01:46] <kow> jguzikowski, just install restricted extas
[01:47] <KE1HA> jguzikowski, online command, or use the package manager, its a snap.
[01:47] <KE1HA> oops one line command .. .. ..
[01:47] <jguzikowski> ah, package manager <3
[01:47] <infomomo> actionparsnip: i like using the search option in nautilus
[01:47] <infomomo> actionparsnip: but it does not work
[01:47] <psilo2> arrrghhh: I guess I will get an android phone soon.  The way the manufacturers are locking them down is really discouraging though.
[01:48] <jguzikowski> Thanks for the quick answers guys! :)
[01:48] <arrrghhh> psilo2, yea, XDA always seems to find ways around it tho.  the "unhackable" droid X took about a week to get an SPL for.
[01:48] <KE1HA> Android Rocks!! much better that the Evil I  .. but that's way off topic :-)  sri
[01:48] <actionparsnip> infomomo: i've heard if you select 'computer' as the search start place, it borks. Try choosing a folder and searching. You can always install beagle or somesuch
[01:48] <zakin>  i need help to how to se wine
[01:48] <arrrghhh> yea.. sorry for the off topic
[01:48] <psilo2> arrrghhh: they're pulling an apple: "hey thanks foss movement for the internet and the operating systems! good stuff! now we're going to not learn ANYTHING from them and lock everything down, enjoy!" uigh
[01:48] <infomomo> actionparsnip: i will install beagle
[01:48] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: +1 for android
[01:48] <arrrghhh> i still want some help with rtorrent :D
[01:48] <IdleOne> !ot | psilo2
[01:48] <kow> you know, this is my first time in this channel, and everyone seems pretty cool guys, just letting you know
[01:48] <psilo2> ok
[01:48] <actionparsnip> jguzikowski: can always use apt-get in cli if you know the package names
[01:48] <webchat> KE1HA: but does it have Qt?
[01:48] <arrrghhh> psilo2, it's the manufacturers, not google/android...
[01:49] <arrrghhh> but i will stop with that.
[01:49] <psilo2> arrrghhh: right
[01:49] <maco> arrrghhh, psilo2: um a bit offtopic folks
[01:49] <arrrghhh> i'll join the off-topic room.
[01:49] <IdleOne> arrrghhh psilo2 I bet you could find a few people in #ubuntu-offtopic who would be interested in that convo
[01:49] <psilo2> I hate to repeat, but I am entirely confused about why aptitude's dependencies are all screwed up.
[01:49] <ikhider> Anyone know how to get Ubuntu to recognize a wifi card? Damn Small Linux can list it on lspci, but not Ubuntu--any ideas?
[01:49] <arrrghhh> and still pander for rtorrent help here :D
[01:49] <arrrghhh> IdleOne, i get the point, it's done.
[01:49] <psilo2> IdleOne: yes we got the message after the first three people said it
[01:50] <psilo2> hi5 arrrghhh
[01:50] <KE1HA> webchat, does what have Qt ?
[01:51] <webchat> is there a reason systeam tray balloon notifications in qt applications aren't redirected to notify-osd?
[01:51] <webchat> are the balloons Qt-specific, or a feature of gnome?
[01:51] <KE1HA> webchat, pass, dont know that one.
[01:52] <IdleOne> arrrghhh psilo2 sorry I should of added a smile to the last sentence. I didn't mean it to sound like I was complaining L)
[01:52] <psilo2> why would `aptitude purge libdspam-drv-mysql` want to remove mysql-server?
[01:52] <IdleOne> :)
[01:52] <psilo2> It's killing me, stopped my progress dead in tracks.
[01:52] <MBG1987> I wont to connect to my work pc  in the company from my home pc using VPN the, both using ubuntu, both behind NAT, How to do it?
[01:52] <arrrghhh> webchat, qt and gnome have never really played well together.  just like kde and gtk+.  they work, but not perfectly.
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> !virtualbox > Dr_Willis
[01:53] <KE1HA> MBG1987, you need your work's VPN client config on your remote machine.
[01:53] <arrrghhh> MBG1987, the "easiest" would be something like... crap what is it.  starts with an H.
[01:53] <webchat> is there a reason systeam tray balloon notifications in qt applications aren't redirected to notify-osd?
[01:53] <ikhider> How to get a wifi card detected on ubuntu?
[01:54] <webchat> ikhider: install the correct proprietary firmware
[01:54] <NeverCast> ikhider, It should just work
[01:54] <NeverCast> ikhider, what model?
[01:54] <arrrghhh> hamachi!
[01:54] <ikhider> webchat, PLease explain
[01:54] <NeverCast> arrrghhh, Hamachi is win
[01:54] <doctorZeus> I've been screwing around with Brasero and having various issues, would like to try a new program to see if I have better luck.  Can anyone recommend their preferred cd/dvd burning software other than brasero that comes stock with ubuntu?
[01:54] <arrrghhh> MBG1987, hamachi was the word i was lookin for.
[01:54] <KE1HA> ikhider, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[01:54] <ikhider> NeverCast, HP6515b
[01:54] <arrrghhh> NeverCast, lol couldn't think of it there for a min.
[01:54] <IdleOne> doctorZeus: gnomebaker
[01:54] <ikhider> KE1HA, webchat :You see, LSPCI does not list it
[01:54] <NeverCast> ikhider, That's the Laptop make
[01:54] <arrrghhh> webchat, i explained it but you rudely "closed the page"
[01:54] <arrrghhh> :P
[01:54] <NeverCast> ikhider, What's the wifi card
[01:54] <psilo2> doctorZeus: they're all just wrappers around cdrecord.  Try to get that working.
[01:55] <NeverCast> arrrghhh, Hamachi is awesome if you can get tun working
[01:55] <webchat> arrrghhh: apologies, freenode webchat + firefox doesn't seem to be reliable
[01:55] <psilo2> doctorZeus: that's likely where the real issue is.
[01:55] <NeverCast> arrrghhh, It's been pretty good for me though
[01:55] <arrrghhh> webchat, qt and gnome have never really played well together.  just like kde and gtk+.  they work, but not perfectly.  and no worries.
[01:55] <KE1HA> ikhider, then that's a problem. Are you sure the WIFI card is operable?
[01:55] <earthling_> I have a Nvidia graphics card and am getting the blank screen, how do I enter the "nomodeset" option at the boot menu?
[01:55] <kow> doctorZeus, make sure you dont have burn virtual disc before actual disk turned on
[01:55] <arrrghhh> NeverCast, yea i haven't messed with it in a year or so.
[01:55] <ikhider> KE1HA, yes
[01:55] <MBG1987> KE1HA Can you please tell me how to configure that or guise me to the same issue links?
[01:55] <webchat> arrrghhh: ic, so gtk apps wouldn't use those balloons?
[01:55] <kow> that is what got me all messed up
[01:55] <NeverCast> arrrghhh, I would say join my network
[01:56] <NeverCast> arrrghhh, but then you will rape my laptop :P
[01:56] <arrrghhh> NeverCast, lol wasn't planning on it!
[01:56] <arrrghhh> either of those things... yikes!
[01:56] <KE1HA> MBG1987,  what issue do you need links for ?
[01:56] <webchat> arrrghhh: is there any planned "fix" for better integration?
[01:56] <Ubuntus> I saw in the Linux web page that there is the Kernel 2.6.35, i have the 2.6.34, how do i update?
[01:56] <doctorZeus> psilo2- I'm on autopilot for the path of least resistance at the moment.. I'd like to try a new program to get me to a vanilla state and if the issue(s) remain I will take a closer look at cdrecord; thanks
[01:56] <KE1HA> ikhider, if the Card is not being recognized at all, I'd have to research that particular card.
[01:56] <arrrghhh> webchat, uhm... sure?  i'm not sure.  i just know they've never historically played well together.  they're always getting better...
[01:57] <ikhider> KE1HA, Damn Small Linux recognizes it, not ubuntu
[01:57] <arrrghhh> Ubuntus, it's best to stick with what ubuntu runs.  10.10 will feature that kernel.
[01:57] <Ubuntus> hm... bummer
[01:57] <maco> webchat, arrrghhh: um actually thats changed lately
[01:57] <KE1HA> ikhider, what card is it?
[01:57] <ikhider> KE1HA, It is a broadcom
[01:57] <webchat> arrrghhh: it looks like tray balloon notifications are a Qt creation, gtk apps directly call libnotify
[01:57] <KE1HA> Model ?
[01:57] <ikhider> KE1HA, BCM 4312 a/b/g
[01:57] <maco> webchat, arrrghhh: ubuntu adopted kde's systray protocol and kde adopted gnome's notification protocol
[01:58] <KE1HA> ok, hold on.
[01:58] <MBG1987> KE1HA did you answer my question above or was somebody else ? :)
[01:58] <arrrghhh> maco, but you can't hardly call it perfect...
[01:58] <webchat> maco: so it's fixed? =-o
[01:58] <KE1HA> MBG1987, what was the links you needed, sri I miised it
[01:58] <arrrghhh> Ubuntus, do you have a need to go to that new kernel?!?
[01:58] <maco> arrrghhh, webchat: when you use gnome apps in kde, they get bubbles exactly the same as kde ones. when you use kde i apps in gnome, i believe the same thing happens. throughout 10.04 and 10.10 devel cycles apps' tray stuff has been being converted over to make menus on tray items work the same too
[01:58] <Ubuntus> when i upgrade to 10.10 do all my problems gonna resolve? like, no sound icon in Gnom panel, dummy sound  output, no eth0 detected...
[01:58] <dooglus> hi guys.  I recently installed linux on my granny's laptop because she kept getting spyware in windows.  now she has somehow managed to get 'mywebsearch' as her default firefox search
[01:59] <MBG1987> KE1HA I want to connect to my work pc  in the company from my home pc using VPN the, both using ubuntu, both behind NAT, How to do it?
[01:59] <dooglus> how did that happen?  she won't have meant to do it
[01:59] <laurus> dooglus, do you mean you installed the Linux kernel, or the GNU/Linux OS?
[01:59] <dooglus> laurus: I installed ubuntu 10.04
[01:59] <dooglus> that's what I mean
[01:59] <laurus> Ah okay
[01:59] <ikhider> I tried so many distributions--to get Linux working all the way is such a rarity
[01:59] <arrrghhh> Ubuntus, no, do you think all those things will magically be solved with this new kernel tho?!?
[02:00] <KE1HA> MBG1987, yes I answered, you need the clint you comapny uses normally, and get Linux equalevent (if possible), else, no joy Im affraid.
[02:00] <webchat> maco: when I call http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/qsystemtrayicon.html#showMessage in lucid, I get a balloon like http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/images/system-tray.png :(
[02:00] <dooglus> my question is, how does the mywebsearch malware trick my granny into installing itself on ubuntu?
[02:00] <ikhider> There is *always* an issue with Linux--if it is not wifi, it is audio or the graphics card or whatever
[02:00] <laurus> Does anyone here know how to view .idx and .sub files?
[02:00] <maco> dooglus: if you right click the search thingy on firefox you can change the default
[02:00] <dooglus> laurus: I use mplayer-nogui
[02:00] <arrrghhh> MBG1987, i also answered, use hamachi unless you want to use the company vpn.
[02:00] <Ubuntus> arrrghhh: well, that would be cool
[02:00] <laurus> dooglus, no, I mean like, view them as a list or a document
[02:00] <laurus> Not inside the movie itself
[02:00] <arrrghhh> Ubuntus, i'm sure it would.  get to coding, all the source is there!
[02:00] <dooglus> maco: I know how to fix it.  what I don't know is how it sneaked onto the computer.  I'd like to stop it happening again
[02:01] <katoen> dooglus: perhaps its a firefox 'addon'
[02:01] <KE1HA> ikhider, you need to use the ndiswrapper approach like I do for my Linksys Wirelss Nics.
[02:01] <maco> webchat: ive never seen anything like that in kde... the bubbles attach to the panel in kde 4.4 and 4.5 (earlier versions they could go in the middle of the screen too i think)
[02:01] <dooglus> laurus: .sub files are plain text.  you can use any text editor
[02:01] <Ubuntus> arrrghhh: i follow some advice from a guy here, about reseting the Gnome panel, and nothing happened
[02:01] <dooglus> katoen: there's no addon
[02:01] <hiexpo> bcm4312
[02:01] <laurus> dooglus, no, they're images, not plain text
[02:01] <ikhider> KE1HA, If the card is not detected at all by LSPCI, how does one do an ndiswrapper approach?
[02:01] <KE1HA> ikhider, See if this Helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff#Step%201:%20All%20BCM43xx%20-%20Install%20NDISWrapper%20and%20Blacklist%20Native%20Driver
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:  you mean the following?
[02:01] <laurus> .idx/.sub is vobsub, i.e. ripped from DVD
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel  | Ubuntus
[02:01] <webchat> maco: ic, I guess that requires calling kde libs directly.. not cross-platform with windows etc
[02:01] <katoen> dooglus: are you sure its because of malware? couldn't she simply have accidentally changed teh homepage
[02:01] <MBG1987> arrrghhh What's hamachi ? can i use openVPN
[02:01] <arrrghhh> Ubuntus, uh.  ok?
[02:01] <Ubuntus> YES!!
[02:01] <KE1HA> I know it's for Fiesty, but the process is the same.
[02:02] <maco> dooglus: when you visit a site that has its own search engine available, the search menu offers to add it to the list (click on the icon for the current search and see the drop down... there'll be one at the bottom of the list if youre on certain sites... ilke youtube does it i think).  she probably hit it not knowing what it was
[02:02] <maco> webchat: yes probably
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:  clarify what its not doing. that command does work fine for me and most people
[02:02] <arrrghhh> MBG1987, you can use whatever you want.  really depends on what your company allows.  my company, that would not fly.
[02:02] <webchat> maco: so i'm stuck with fugly balloons  if I want to support kde/gnome/windows :(
[02:02] <dooglus> katoen: the home page didn't change.  what changed is the 'about:config' setting that tells it where to go when you type random words (not a URL) into the address bar
[02:02] <maco> webchat: quassel supports pure-qt and kde
[02:02] <KE1HA> You install ndiswrapper-common and utils, then install the driver.sys / .ini file, then modprobe the driver to the kernel.
[02:02] <dooglus> katoen: she didn't change that manaully
[02:02] <maco> webchat: its a compile-time option in quassel
[02:02] <webchat> maco: ic, I guess i could do that
[02:02] <arrrghhh> webchat, or just run kde haha :P
[02:02] <maco> webchat: also, there IS kde for windows
[02:03] <Ubuntus> Dr_Willis: restoring the sound icon in thnome desktop
[02:03] <arrrghhh> maco, they're doing a native port right?  how's the progress on that?
[02:03] <maco> arrrghhh: i dont know. i dont use windows except at work where im not admin
[02:03] <Ubuntus> But, whatever, who needs sound anyway.....?
[02:03] <arrrghhh> Ubuntus, i don't.  ubuntu is a server for me.  everyone has their own needs.
[02:04] <KE1HA> LOL  sound and video drivers are always testy in Linux. Once that's smoothed out, look out WinDoze.
[02:04] <dooglus> maco: the default search in the search box is still google.  it's the "when you type a bad URL" search that was damaged
[02:04] <maco> Ubuntus: um if you dont have a sound applet but you do have a notification area, that sounds like pulseaudio's not running. ditto the "dummy sound output" part...
[02:04] <maco> dooglus: oh. mm dunno then
[02:04] <webchat> the ati catalyst drivers suck, no vsync for desktop :(
[02:04] <arrrghhh> dooglus, ah, i had that happen previously with one of my ubuntu systems, and i was baffled as well.  1 sec.
[02:04] <webchat> compiz effects look horrid without vsync..
[02:04] <arrrghhh> (my gf managed to get it bungled...)
[02:05] <Ubuntus> s there n the terminal too see whats wrong with the system? I am having some LAG.
[02:05] <dooglus> arrrghhh: I fixed it.  I just want to stop it happening again
[02:05] <dooglus> arrrghhh: I'm surprised that ubuntu lets 'clueless' users mess up their firefox so badly without trying
[02:05] <Ubuntus> maco: yes, i puge the alsa and pulse audio, and then re installed, and still
[02:05] <Ubuntus> *purge
[02:06] <arrrghhh> dooglus, not ubuntu's fault.  it's a loophole in firefox dude.  install chrome for her, perhaps that's the "fix"...
[02:06] <dooglus> arrrghhh: not a bad idea
[02:06] <hiexpo> to get bcm4312 working look at this  :) http://dimitar.me/broadcom-wireless-chipset-bcm4311-bcm4312-bcm4321-and-bcm4322-on-ubuntu-karmic/
[02:06] <Jef91> What would I need to purchase to use my Ubuntu system as a high def DVR
[02:06] <abhijit> Good Morning all :)
[02:06] <dooglus> I liked it when I could tell people "switch to ubuntu to avoid all this malware".  seems that's no longer 100% true
[02:06] <Ubuntus> LAG
[02:07] <abhijit> its 6:45 AM here :) First time this much earlier I am online :)
[02:07] <psilo2> ikhider: hw manufacturers don't always target linux.  The easiest path is, if you want to run linux, shop for parts that already have good support.  This is good for you, and encourages manufacturers to provide good linux drivers at the same time.
[02:07] <arrrghhh> i have all the "major" browsers installed, because every rendering engine produces slightly different results depending on the page.
[02:07] <Ubuntus> what causes lag?
[02:07] <Ubuntus> in the whole system?
[02:07] <arrrghhh> dooglus, well you still can.  it just took over a search feature in firefox, much better than a BSOD don't you agree?
[02:07] <Jef91> Ubuntus Slow system?
[02:07] <Ubuntus> YES!
[02:07] <arrrghhh> Ubuntus, several factors.  unoptimized drivers.  bad hardware.  misbehaving software.
[02:08] <arrrghhh> sooo many other things.
[02:08] <j-fish> I'm installing ubuntu for the first time,and i think it stuck,the progress bar reached 100% dissappered and now i just see the background picture.shall i keep waiting(its like this for at least 10 minutes)
[02:08] <Ubuntus> Just ihe drivers, whats a good command in the terminal to update?
[02:08] <maco> Ubuntus: drivers are part of the kernel
[02:08] <Ubuntus> You see, not even the words
[02:08] <arrrghhh> j-fish, do you have a hdd light or a CD activity light?
[02:08] <maco> Ubuntus: some CPUs automatically slow down if they are overheating. check there's no dust in your heatsink/fan?
[02:08] <actionparsnip> j-fish: did you MD5 test the iso you downloaded? Did you check the CD for defects?
[02:08] <KE1HA> Ubuntus, I had a "slow system" after a 10.04 install, was actually the setu CPU speed.
[02:09] <Mr_Sonoma> j-fish, i'd wait a bit and see what it does.
[02:09] <Ubuntus> Thats why i want the most recent kernel
[02:09] <arrrghhh> Ubuntus, that's not going to solve your problems.  likely to just create a ton more.
[02:09] <Ubuntus> KEIHA: how did you fix it?
[02:09] <j-fish> omg,i think i disconnected the disk on key:/
[02:09] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: it'll solve some but create different ones
[02:10] <bjegovic> can i play cs 1.6 via virtualbox ?????
[02:10] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, either way.  it'll probably wreak more havoc being my point.
[02:10] <kow> bjegovic, prolly not
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  for games. one normally uses 'wine'
[02:10] <Ubuntus> Why distros so unstable?
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:  i find it very stable.
[02:10] <j-fish> is there anyway to resume the installation or just restarting?
[02:10] <KE1HA> Took three steps, havce to remove two packages, install utils and set the performance level. Changeds the CPU speed from 800MHZ back to 1.8Ghz wehre is should have been.
[02:10] <arrrghhh> bjegovic, please just run windows for games...
[02:10] <katoen> bjegovic is a troll
[02:10] <bjegovic> ok, too bad grafic is when i use wine
[02:10] <arrrghhh> Ubuntus, i do as well.
[02:10] <Ubuntus> well, you must only use Wordstar
[02:10] <hiexpo> what distro unstable  ?
[02:10] <bjegovic> i dont have windows
[02:10] <Ubuntus> I use 3d modeling
[02:10] <maco> Ubuntus: constantly changing kernel versions is rather opposite of "stable"...
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:  if you want a newer kernel . try the next release thats in testing.
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:  please lose the attitude.
[02:11] <doctorZeus> IdleOne: gnomebaker is awesome.. much, much, much more intuitive and easy to use than brasero that ships with Ubuntu.  thanks
[02:11] <bjegovic> i dont have windows
[02:11] <arrrghhh> bjegovic, then play games that are native to linux.
[02:11] <Ubuntus> Excusme, i am a little....mad, Ubuntu issues
[02:11] <bjegovic> i wanna play cs 1,6
[02:11] <KE1HA> I ahve the three / four steps on my other laptop. WIll be on it tomorrow.
[02:11] <kgilles> any one know how to get microsoft media server protocol on latest ubuntu or any other substitute to play media on ubuntu
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  steam is suipposed to be getting released for linux. some time :)
[02:11] <arrrghhh> bjegovic, then you must have windows, because that's what it is designed for.
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  you did check the wine appdatabase for that game?
[02:12] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: totally, every OS sucks. Just differently :)
[02:12] <arrrghhh> Dr_Willis, the steam client, or all the games as well?
[02:12] <bjegovic> yes i checked
[02:12] <neutralrobotboy> i get an error message on ubuntu 10.04 when i try to hibernate. it tells me that there's a bad swap header? is anyone able to help me with this issue?
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> arrrghhh:  i doubt if it will be ALL the games..
[02:12] <actionparsnip> bjegovic: also ask in #winehq
[02:12] <rewati> hi i need to uninstall these gostwares but i am getting error . I am not able to install and uninstall any app on my system these are the errors : http://pastebin.com/R0XkbY2A
[02:12] <arrrghhh> Dr_Willis, lol well some of the cool ones at least like L4D?
[02:12] <bjegovic> i asked and thatr is all i have
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> arrrghhh:  not ALL the games are released for OS-X yet either.
[02:12] <bjegovic> I JUST MUST PLAY CS 1.6 PLEASE HELP ME
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> arrrghhh:  no idea.  I imagine eventually  many of them will get ported.
[02:12] <katoen> bjegovic: you must stop shouting
[02:12] <bjegovic> sry for caps
[02:13] <arrrghhh> bjegovic, please use windows.
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  we cant really help if the game dosetn work in wine.. we cant make it work.
[02:13] <bjegovic> i dont have win
[02:13] <arrrghhh> Dr_Willis, sorry, it's off topic.  no worries, i'll research it.
[02:13] <bjegovic> oh my god
[02:13] <hiexpo> games maybe this  http://news.softpedia.com/news/CrossOver-9-1-0-and-CrossOver-Games-9-1-0-Available-Now-149589.shtml
[02:13] <kgilles> any substitute  for microsoft media server plugi for ubuntu to play media , please help
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> arrrghhh:  I would be happy if the major games by valve got ported, that would be a big boost for linux
[02:13] <bjegovic> cs is my drog
[02:13] <bjegovic> please help me i cant without it
[02:13] <arrrghhh> it would indeed sir.
[02:13] <katoen> bjegovic: stop trolling
[02:13] <bjegovic> sorry
[02:13] <twobitsprite> Can someone list any guides for setting up ubuntu to use a broadcom BCM4311 wireless card... google only gives me forum posts from 2008
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> bjegovic:  time to grow up? or move to #ubuntu-offtopic then.
[02:14] <xangua> kgilles: have you already installed restrcited-extras¿
[02:14] <bjegovic> pleeease
[02:14] <arrrghhh> kgilles, what do you need to do?  play some music?  there's a ton of programs.
[02:14] <bjegovic> sorry
[02:14] <katoen> bjegovic: stop it
[02:14] <kgilles> yes i did
[02:14] <hiexpo> twobitsprite,  one sec
[02:14] <twobitsprite> hiexpo: thanks :)
[02:14] <bjegovic> i am craizy without cs 1.6
[02:14] <kgilles> i need to listen to national radio
[02:14] <neutralrobotboy> is there perhaps some script or utility that can help me debug this issue? or is there some standard procedure for figuring this out? i'm no linux guru and may be missing something obvious.
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> kgilles:  tjheres a neat program (an adobe air app) called Antenna that works very good as  a world-wide radio. :)
[02:15] <bjegovic> i wanna play cs... pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:15] <kgilles> ok Dr_willies. let me try that, cheers
[02:15] <actionparsnip> rewati: you can move the .postrm file for each package in /var/lib/dpkg/info/  then  run: sudo apt-get auto-remove
[02:15] <kow> boot
[02:15] <kow> windows
[02:15] <bjegovic> i dont have itt
[02:15] <arrrghhh> ugh i wish i could kick him.
[02:16] <bjegovic> kick me in my face
[02:16] <kow> well then it looks like you are sol
[02:16] <arrrghhh> bjegovic, well this is #ubuntu, so unless you have something to talk about related to that then please leave!
[02:16] <actionparsnip> rewati: or run: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq packagename
[02:16] <KE1HA> isnt' there an ops bot call for that?
[02:16] <bjegovic> :::((((
[02:16]  * arrrghhh kicks bjegovic in the face.
[02:16]  * twobitsprite loves /ignore
[02:16] <actionparsnip> bjegovic: the guys ni #winehq will help you
[02:16] <katoen> apt-get remove --purge bjegovic
[02:16] <arrrghhh> just doesn't have the same effect.  if only i could punch someone over standard tcp/ip i'd be loaded.  and twobitsprite is a GENIUS!
[02:16] <rewati> actionparsnip: in above two method which one shud i use
[02:17] <roky> hello everyone
[02:17] <maco> arrrghhh: oy, no violence
[02:17] <maco> !patience | bjegovic
[02:17] <maco> !wine | bjegovic
[02:17] <neutralrobotboy> hmm... so i guess nobody can point me in the right direction? is more information needed?
[02:17] <wakko10warner> My XWindows in the latest version of Ubuntu freezes after a few minutes of use forcing me to do a hard reboot. How do I fix this?
[02:17] <wakko10warner> It was fine about a week ago ...
[02:17] <twobitsprite> hiexpo: any luck?
[02:17] <arrrghhh> neutralrobotboy, have you tried rebooting?   this happens every time you try to hibernate?
[02:18] <wakko10warner> The screen just locks in place , and the keybord stops working.
[02:18] <maco> neutralrobotboy: swap is the partition where the overflow from memory goes and where you hibernate. if its not large enough to hold everything thats currently in there + everything thats in ram, hibernate will fail
[02:18] <katoen> wakko10warner: did you check logs? can you log on to your system from another computer (install / enable sshd)
[02:18] <arrrghhh> wakko10warner, get any kernel updates or anything big \recently?
[02:18] <za> how do i change ownership of a whole directory
[02:18] <wakko10warner> yes I always update arrrghhh
[02:18] <KE1HA> arrrghhh, I found some info on preceved hibernate bugs today, not yet validated.
[02:19] <arrrghhh> wakko10warner, sorry katoen probably had a better suggestion :D  check your logs, pastebin them.
[02:19] <hiexpo> twobitsprite,  - http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=broadcom
[02:19] <wakko10warner> where would by logs be.
[02:19] <maco> za: chown -R user dir/
[02:19] <KE1HA> za, with chown
[02:19] <wakko10warner> I will do it.
[02:19] <maco> wakko10warner: /var/log/
[02:19] <maco> wakko10warner: you'll want /var/log/apt/term.log i think
[02:19] <katoen> wakko10warner: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:19] <BlueJae> hello
[02:19] <katoen> yo
[02:20] <actionparsnip> rewati: i'd use the second one, you need to use the package names which are having issues, in the commands
[02:20] <Mr_Sonoma> !hi | BlueJae
[02:20] <maco> wakko10warner: oh... my suggestion was for finding out about your updates....
[02:20] <BlueJae> anyone in here know how i may be able to re-adjust the partition sizes on a dual boot?
[02:20] <nerdy_kid> hey im looking for a way to change the extension of all the files inside a folder. (they are all .JPGs and i need them to be lower case .jpg to workaround a bug in a program)
[02:20] <hiexpo> katoen,  this is no yo > channel this is ubuntu channel
[02:20] <neutralrobotboy> arrrghhh: i have tried rebooting. i think i screwed up somewhere in the install. basically, i installed without a swap partition because i have plenty of ram. i didn't realize at the time that hibernate required a swap partition to work (silly me). i think i then mounted a swap file, which enabled hibernate, but caused the error+crash when i tried to use it. i then repartitioned, putting a swap partition an the end of the drive
[02:20] <neutralrobotboy> , but the same error occurs.
[02:20] <arrrghhh> BlueJae, i'm assuming you don't have any free space?
[02:20] <abhijit> !gparted | BlueJae
[02:20] <wakko10warner> http://pastebin.ca/1910585 <-- my x0rg.o log
[02:21] <BlueJae> i do have space
[02:21] <katoen> hiexpo: oh
[02:21] <BlueJae> but i want to give linux more
[02:21] <arrrghhh> neutralrobotboy, how big is the swap?
[02:21] <BlueJae> i was able to minimize the windows partition but not the linux one
[02:21] <arrrghhh> BlueJae, raw free space.
[02:21] <twobitsprite> hiexpo: thanks
[02:21] <BlueJae> i used gparted
[02:21] <hiexpo> ^ yep
[02:21] <neutralrobotboy> arrrghhh: the partition is about 6 gigs.
[02:21] <arrrghhh> BlueJae, then you should be able to allocate that remaining raw free space to your ubuntu partition.
[02:22] <BlueJae> now the space left from shrinking down the windows partition is just sitting there
[02:22] <BlueJae> how?
[02:22] <Mr_Sonoma> BlueJae, you can't resize a partition that's mounted. reboot into a livecd session to do it
[02:22] <arrrghhh> neutralrobotboy, your swap is 6gb?  how much RAM do you have?
[02:22] <BlueJae> ah
[02:22] <neutralrobotboy> arrrghhh: about 3gb
[02:22] <BlueJae> i'm pretty new with linux
[02:22] <arrrghhh> Mr_Sonoma, d'oh forgot that critical step lol.
[02:22] <Mr_Sonoma> arrrghhh, K.I.S.S.
[02:22] <KE1HA> All yu need to do is shrik of of the larger partitions, freeing up space, then reallocate it to swap or whatever you want / need it ti be.
[02:22] <arrrghhh> neutralrobotboy, that should be more than enough....
[02:22] <Mr_Sonoma> :D
[02:22] <katoen> wakko10warner: seems ok to me
[02:22] <BlueJae> so there is no way to do it without a live cd since it's mounted
[02:23] <arrrghhh> Mr_Sonoma, yea, sometimes i forget the little things that make a big difference.  ah well.
[02:23] <abhijit> BlueJae, in gparted right click the partition you want to edit and click on unmount and then you can do some actions on it
[02:23] <wakko10warner> http://pastebin.ca/1910587 <-- my user.log
[02:23] <Mr_Sonoma> arrrghhh,  your not the only one trust me
[02:23] <wakko10warner> anyother log you need. My X windows screen seems to freeze
[02:23] <BlueJae> i think when i tried that it said it would erase all the data
[02:23] <KE1HA> e.g. swap should = RAM size, or in the case of like 512M, I go with 1GB
[02:23] <picard1421> i just did apt-get install dwm.. what do i do to start it? is there a config i have to do or is the apt-get do it al lfor me?
[02:23] <arrrghhh> BlueJae, basically yes.  if the OS is running the drive has to be mounted.  if you're expanding a drive that the OS is not running on then you can.
[02:23] <BlueJae> i think i'll just have to wait till i get home and can run the live cd
[02:23] <wakko10warner> could it be my video driver, it happened when I updated it.
[02:23] <BlueJae> i see
[02:23] <Mr_Sonoma> abhijit, wont be able to do that on the partition that housing the OS BlueJae is currently using i don't think.
[02:23] <neutralrobotboy> arrrghhh: it's giving me some weird error message about a bad swap header. is there a way to pull up that error message from the console?
[02:24] <katoen> wakko10warner: my guess is there's something wrong with the driver (nvidia) try the 'nv' driver instead for the time being
[02:24] <BlueJae> nah
[02:24] <hiexpo> try sudo dwm
[02:24] <BlueJae> i tried earlier on the plane
[02:24] <arrrghhh> neutralrobotboy, check your logs.  /var/log/messages or syslog.
[02:24] <neutralrobotboy> ok. one sec
[02:24] <BlueJae> it'll just have to wait
[02:24] <wakko10warner> I will switch.
[02:24] <BlueJae> thanks for the help though
[02:24] <rewati> actionparsnip: thanks it worked
[02:24] <KE1HA> BlueJae, is you can SSH to the machine, fdisk or cfdisk are simple to use tools.
[02:24] <rewati> actionparsnip: thanks a lot cya
[02:25] <arrrghhh> Mr_Sonoma, that's why you're here tho, to check mah work :D
[02:25] <actionparsnip> rewati: that sort of thing is one of the MASSIVE weaknesses in package based systems
[02:25] <hiexpo> actionparsnip,  ^ :)
[02:25] <arrrghhh> hahaha jk
[02:25] <BlueJae> r those shell programs?
[02:25] <thomas_> Is there an IRC for LIRC?
[02:25] <BlueJae> or commands?
[02:25] <actionparsnip> rewati: I suggest you run: sudo apt-get -f install     to make sure all is square
[02:25] <Mr_Sonoma> BlueJae, be sure you back up anything critical. not saying anything bad will happen but there's always a risk of data loss when resizing partitions
[02:25] <BlueJae> always
[02:25] <rewati> actionparsnip: ok sure
[02:25] <actionparsnip> rewati: if you get two 0s then its all good
[02:25] <picard1421> how do i add DWM to my xinit thing?
[02:25] <KE1HA> BlueJae, yes, both command line apps.
[02:26] <rewati> actionparsnip: where can i read all this about package management
[02:26] <arrrghhh> thomas_ yes, #lirc... but it doesn't look very active.
[02:26] <actionparsnip> rewati: online
[02:26] <BlueJae> yeah...for now i think i'll still with the gui.
[02:26] <actionparsnip> rewati: it happens a lot with flash so I just copied the commands but made it smell right for yours
[02:26] <BlueJae> my external and cd rom is at the house.  i'm on the road right now so i'll just wait
[02:26] <KE1HA> :-) ... no worries, if your more comfortable with the GUI's especially hen partitioning, best stick with them.
[02:27] <BlueJae> for use
[02:27] <BlueJae> sure
[02:27] <thomas_> Yeah, they're quiet in there. I'm having trouble installing a remote... HP TSGI-IR01
[02:27] <thomas_> Well, that's the receiver.
[02:27] <thomas_> The remote itself is TSGH-IR01.
[02:27] <BlueJae> i've been reading about the terminal commands and all the cool stuff you can do but i'm just not quite there yet
[02:28] <BlueJae> shoot...i only keep windows so i can use netflix
[02:28] <arrrghhh> thomas_ you may be able to get help here or in #ubuntu-server... but i don't have any experience with it.  i'd like to play with it tho haha
[02:28] <Mr_Sonoma> BlueJae, don't be scared. cli is where its at :D
[02:28] <BlueJae> thats what i keep reading
[02:28] <KE1HA> LOL... not really needed now, NetFlix and MegaVid are all onle too :-)
[02:28] <abhijit> !enter | BlueJae
[02:28] <picard1421> ok i have a question about DWM.. i just did a basic install and installed xinit... my question is now i have the DWM windows up.. how do i do commands..
[02:28] <neutralrobotboy> arrrghhh: one example is from syslog.1: http://pastebin.com/C1GPdysK
[02:28] <KE1HA> oops online ..
[02:28] <picard1421> i have not configed anything i just used the defaults with apt-get install dwm?????
[02:29] <BlueJae> ?
[02:29] <arrrghhh> neutralrobotboy, can you give me more before & after?
[02:29] <AvonGenesis> Anyone know how to increase the resolution? Ubuntu only allows me to go up to 1280x1024 but i want to go to my monitor's max at 1440x900.
[02:29] <neutralrobotboy> arrrghhh: sure. sorry.
[02:29] <neutralrobotboy> one sec.
[02:30] <hiexpo> picard1421,  man dwm
[02:30] <arrrghhh> neutralrobotboy, forget it.  quick google turned up this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1042946
[02:30] <picard1421> what???
[02:30] <hiexpo> open terminal type man dwm
[02:30] <neutralrobotboy> arrrghhh:  aha! looking.
[02:30] <picard1421> currently on my screen i have the DWM pane at hte top of the screen with the 1 selected..??? and a black screen?
[02:30] <thomas_> Shall I repeat my question?
[02:30] <katoen> thomas_: do that
[02:31] <BlueJae> thanks again guys.  later
[02:31] <arrrghhh> neutralrobotboy, that was the first link on google when i searched "swap header not found"
[02:31] <rodolfo> hi, do you know how can i use mi ipod touch on linux??
[02:31] <arrrghhh> no offense, just sayin!
[02:31] <thomas_> I'm having trouble installing a remote... HP TSGI-IR01 (the receiver) The remote itself is TSGH-IR01.
[02:31] <hiexpo> rodolfo,  google is your friend
[02:32] <katoen> thomas_: ok, that doesn't ring any bell
[02:32] <picard1421> shift alt q wortks just fine...and shift alt P but nothing else?? where is the config file to change stuff?
[02:32] <nerdy_kid> hey im looking for a way to change the extension of all the files inside a folder. (they are all .JPGs and i need them to be lower case .jpg to workaround a bug in a program)
[02:33] <neutralrobotboy> arrrghhh: no offense taken. if i've been boneheaded, it's my own fault.
[02:33] <KE1HA> picard1421, You may find this useful: http://openmindlifestyle.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/howto-compile-and-configure-dwm-tiling-window-manager-on-ubuntu/
[02:33] <arrrghhh> neutralrobotboy, lol no worries.   we all have our moments.
[02:33] <rodolfo> it says that i can install itunes 7.3 on wine
[02:33] <rodolfo> but it don't detects the ipod
[02:33] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, yea... but it won't be a very good experience.  have you used songbird, rhythmbox or amarok?
[02:34] <rodolfo> yes
[02:34] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, ok?
[02:34] <rodolfo> but i cannot acces my songs
[02:34] <katoen> nerdy_kid: for i in *.JPG; do mv -v "$i" $(basename "$i" .JPG).jpg; done
[02:34] <picard1421> KE1HA: dont you need xinit installed before that guide?
[02:34] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, you need to be more specific.
[02:34] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: isn't itunes 7.3 way old?  Aren't they up to 9.something now?
[02:34] <rodolfo> i cannot access my ipod
[02:34] <picard1421> where is the config.h stored???
[02:34] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, really?  even on songbird?
[02:35] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: which ipod do you have?
[02:35] <rodolfo> touch
[02:35] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, did you try songbird...?
[02:35] <nerdy_kid> katoen ah thanks keep forgeting about basename :-|
[02:35] <rodolfo> let me see
[02:35] <arrrghhh> so... anyone use rtorrent?
[02:35] <katoen> np
[02:36] <katoen> arrrghhh: yes
[02:36] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i've had to work through issues w/ my ipod nano 5Gen, and i've worked with an iphone, but unfortunately i haven't tried an ipod touch yet.
[02:36] <KE1HA> picard1421, Oh, yes I would say so, but Im not a DWM expert, just had tht one bookmarked.
[02:36] <rodolfo> ok
[02:36] <picard1421> where is the DWM program stored so i can edit that config file?
[02:36] <arrrghhh> katoen, i'm either retarded or confused or both.  i use a watch directory, but now i can't pause/stop torrents.  i understand that's because i'm binding the file, but how else can i use a watch dir and be able to pause/stop torrents temporarily?
[02:36] <abhijit> pgadmin gives this error: pgadmin3: relocation error: pgadmin3: symbol _ZN21wxMemoryFSHandlerBase19AddFileWithMimeTypeERK8wxStringPKvmS2_, version WXU_2.8 not defined in file libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 with link time reference
[02:36] <abhijit> help
[02:36] <Brandy> Hi Guys
[02:37] <picard1421> i just did
[02:37] <picard1421> apt-get install dw
[02:37] <picard1421> dwm
[02:37] <Brandy> How Can I Back Up my Ubuntu 10.4 so i can restore if anything
[02:37] <arrrghhh> !hi | Brandy
[02:37] <jhambo> Okular renders many greek characters incorrectly.  For example, the greek lowercase mu shows up instead as a "proportional to" symbol.  Acrobat reader does not have this problem.  Any idea how to fix this??
[02:37] <picard1421> i had to config nothing etc..?
[02:37] <neutralrobotboy> arrrghhh: hmm... this details how to make hibernate work with swapfiles. what's probably happening is that i still have an active swapfile somewhere. since i have a swap partition, i don't need that anymore. is there a simple way to just turn off the swapfile altogether?
[02:37] <katoen> arrrghhh: hm never used the watch-dir functionality in rtorrent, so i guess i can't hep you there
[02:37] <arrrghhh> Brandy, what are you backing up to?
[02:37] <katoen> arrrghhh: hopefully someone else can comment on that
[02:37] <arrrghhh> katoen, damnit jim!  :P
[02:37] <katoen> arrrghhh: also i'm very lazy :-)
[02:38] <Brandy> i just installed ubuntu and have put a few apps and a virtual XP for oficce purposes
[02:38] <arrrghhh> neutralrobotboy, i'd follow that guide.
[02:38] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i've also heard good things about Songbird, but i haven't tried it yet (got things working w/ rhythmbox, so I didn't go on to try Songbird yet)
[02:38] <Brandy> and need to back up now the way it is now
[02:38] <arrrghhh> katoen, i am as well, which is why i love the watch-dir feature...
[02:38] <neutralrobotboy> arrrghhh:  okie dokey. thanks!
[02:38] <arrrghhh> Brandy, yes but what are you backing up to...?  external hdd?  do you have a server you backup to?
[02:38] <rodolfo> ok
[02:39] <Brandy> An Ipod 80 G
[02:39] <KE1HA> Brandy, is the VIrtual Box on a windows machine, or Linux ?
[02:39] <Brandy> a winodws i have to use office
[02:39] <Brandy> is a requirement at work
[02:39] <arrrghhh> Brandy, that's not a suitable backup device... you can use it, but i wouldn't recommend it.
[02:39] <Brandy> why ?
[02:39] <Brandy> it wont fit
[02:39] <w1n5ton> I have a problem
[02:40] <KE1HA> Well, you can use Office on Linux with Playonlinux & Wine, but I would jsut copy the Virtual Directory to a backup location.
[02:40] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: Amarok looked pretty good also if Songbird doesn't work out.  There are so many to choose from its kinda nice.
[02:40] <Mr_Sonoma> what's your problem w1n5ton ?
[02:40] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, i think she wants a complete backup of everything... host & guest OS.
[02:40] <Brandy> i did but few apps dont work
[02:40] <random314> Brandy: An iPod is not meant for general file-storage, something like a flash drive or a USB hard-drive would be ideal.
[02:40] <Brandy> need full usage of office
[02:40] <w1n5ton> I just ran the ubuntu updater and now my whole interface looks wierd
[02:40] <xangua> Brandy: there are also openoffice, lotus office, softmaker office (this is of pay)
[02:40] <katoen> w1n5ton: weird how?
[02:41] <picard1421> anybody.. how do i / what would i do to config DWM
[02:41] <w1n5ton> like the panels are grey instead of black
[02:41] <KE1HA> Well, in that case, need a big drive, but at least fer the Virtual Machine, copy the Virtual DIR to a safe location.
[02:41] <Brandy> u dont undesrant is a job obligation
[02:41] <rodolfo> ok thanks
[02:41] <nUboon2Age> random314: Some people really like Banshee too. so that might be a third choice.
[02:41] <Brandy> it is wat runs at my work
[02:41] <actionparsnip> Brandy: theres also googledocs and zoho
[02:41] <Mr_Sonoma> Brandy, usb hard drives are excellent.
[02:41] <Brandy> trust me i can use any other at home
[02:41] <arrrghhh> Brandy, don't worry about the office tips, ignore them.
[02:41] <Brandy> but official at work had to be that one
[02:41] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo:  Some people really like Banshee too. so that might be a third choice.
[02:41] <KE1HA> sri, didnt mean to confuse the issue :-)
[02:41] <arrrghhh> let's focus on your backups... do you want everything backed up... guest OS and host as well, or just your windows vm?
[02:42] <actionparsnip> random314: and waaay cheaper
[02:42] <Brandy> u think i like windows
[02:42] <hiexpo> Brandy,  Google  use ipod (type) in Ubuntu  (sys 10.04 etc )
[02:42] <xangua> w1n5ton: have you tried to restart your session or use another theme¿¿
[02:42] <Brandy> had no clue how many times i crash
[02:42] <mrconnerton> I have been trying to install 10.04 64-bit on my computer and the installation went well, however when I try and reboot, there is just a blank screen with a blinking underscore. Doesn't get past it.
[02:42] <Brandy> loose a lot data
[02:42] <epinky> !example | w1n5ton
[02:42] <actionparsnip> Brandy: google docs has full docx support
[02:42] <katoen> picard1421: how did you install dwm? source?
[02:42] <rodolfo> do you know if it can save songs in the ipod??
[02:42] <w1n5ton> It's not a problem with a program
[02:42] <picard1421> katoen: i installed it from apt-get install dwm
[02:42] <Brandy> well how to back up
[02:42] <w1n5ton> and yeah I rebooted
[02:42] <KE1HA> mrconnerton, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[02:42] <Brandy> an i worried about save it
[02:42] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, all of the programs we mentioned have some ipod integration...
[02:42] <w1n5ton> It's not the theme either
[02:42] <hiexpo> !ipod
[02:42] <random314> Brandy: If you are running a Windows virtual machine inside of a Linux host then that is fine.  Something to also consider is http://www.codeweavers.com/ Crossover which makes Microsoft Office almost like a native Linux program as far as you use it within Linux.  Crossover is a paid program.
[02:42] <w1n5ton> Running Lucid
[02:43] <rodolfo> ok
[02:43] <epinky> !enter | w1n5ton
[02:43] <arrrghhh> Brandy, answer my question please.
[02:43] <mrconnerton> KE1HA: Thanks a ton! will read!
[02:43] <mrconnerton> KE1HA: I promised I googled first ;-)
[02:43] <Brandy> what question pal
[02:43] <Brandy> sorry this goes so fast
[02:43] <katoen> picard1421: ok, so how does it not work exactly?
[02:43] <K-Rich> Hello all.
[02:43] <KE1HA> mrconnerton, no worries, hope it works.
[02:44] <arrrghhh> Brandy, that's why i put your name before everything i say :D  do you want to backup your windows vm (the guest os) or everything, the linux host and the win guest?
[02:44] <K-Rich> i need a cross-platform lan focused im/client, (voice/vid not required but nice) soulution for linux/mac/windows network. any suggestions?
[02:44] <arrrghhh> K-Rich, gtalk.
[02:44] <Brandy> all
[02:44] <picard1421> katoen: any commands i do (alt+ shift+ enter) does nothing.. sswitching betwenn pane 1, 2, 3, 4, impossible without mouse.. etc... no commands work except the quit command
[02:44] <Brandy> i can make a machine again
[02:44] <picard1421> i guess i need to "redo" the config file
[02:44] <Brandy> thats no issue
[02:44] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i think all of them can save songs on the ipod but not all of them can do a sync (such as people are used to doing with iTunes.)  Rythmbox you can drag songs over, but can't do sync, yet (coming in Maverick i understand)
[02:44] <katoen> K-Rich: jabber
[02:44] <Brandy> but ubuntu is my main concern
[02:44] <arrrghhh> Brandy, that's a little trickier.  bit-for-bit copies are not easy.
[02:44] <picard1421> where is it located and i will copy in the deault config
[02:44] <w1n5ton> Would it help if I gave a screenshot?
[02:44] <Brandy> i know
[02:44] <arrrghhh> Brandy, unless you have a server to backup to...?
[02:45] <katoen> picard1421: ok
[02:45] <hiexpo> sometimes some searches are weak i use different  search engines there is google there is google ubuntu there is google linux etc
[02:45] <Brandy> and i havent finad a  software that does neighter
[02:45] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: can you see your ipod on the places menu?
[02:45] <Brandy> what is a server ?
[02:45] <Brandy> forgive my ignorance
[02:45] <arrrghhh> Brandy, really?  is english not your first language?  i'm not trying to be rude, i'm being serious.
[02:45] <hiexpo> Brandy,  a server is the host
[02:45] <Brandy> spanish
[02:46] <katoen> picard1421: sounds like some package is missing, i don't know. I can't really try to replicate the problem atm
[02:46] <arrrghhh> Brandy, there is #ubuntu-es
[02:46] <jeeves_Moss> how can I force a 6.4LTS server to do a dist upgrade?  I've tried "apt-get dist-update" and it claims there is no updates
[02:46] <abhijit> !es | Brandy
[02:46] <epinky> !ask | w1n5ton
[02:46] <picard1421> katoen: is it somehint i can change the config file??
[02:46] <Brandy> ok im at the channel
[02:46] <Brandy> i try there
[02:46] <katoen> picard1421: possibly, have you checked any documentation that came with dwm? (dpkg -L dwm)
[02:47] <random314> Brandy: Confirm this information -> Your host operating system is Linux.  Your guest operating system is Windows.  You want to do a full image backup of the Linux drive?
[02:47] <hiexpo> Brandy,  kool
[02:47] <arrrghhh> Brandy, i just think you'll have an easier time there.
[02:47] <Brandy> yes
[02:47] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: if you can't see your ipod on the 'places' menu after you plug it in then that will be the first hurdle to overcome.
[02:47] <Brandy> linux is tha master OS
[02:47] <Brandy> windows is just a virtual machine
[02:47] <sander__> I want to change from the ppa:team-xbmc-svn apt repository to ppa:team-xbmc .. how do I do that?..
[02:47] <picard1421> that just lists the /usr/share folders that are in use
[02:47] <w1n5ton> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=160516&d=1276602779 how do I make it look like this again?
[02:48] <katoen> picard1421: yes, and any documenation that came with it, along with man pages
[02:48] <rodolfo> i see it
[02:48] <rodolfo> but as a camera
[02:48] <sander__> I tried removing the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/team-xbmc-svn-ppa-lucid.list file.. and do: add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc
[02:48] <picard1421> there is nothing .. );
[02:48] <random314> You will need a large drive to do a full backup.  Better way: enable folder sharing from the guest Windows into the host Linux by installing VirtualBox guest additions.  Then save the files directly into your Linux filesystem and just back up the data from there.  Only the files you create and work with are the ideal to backup.  They would be tiny compared to a whole disk image and much easier to work with.
[02:48] <sander__> But now I can't download anything from the xbmc mirror anymore.
[02:49] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: so when you plug it in, does a dialog box pop up and ask if you want to work with your photos?
[02:49] <Brandy> a full image
[02:49] <Brandy> so i can have what i have now installed
[02:50] <Brandy> including all i have so far
[02:50] <rodolfo> no
[02:50] <random314> Brandy: Also do consider Codeweavers Crossover Office.  It is tailored especially to get Microsoft Office working almost-native in Linux.  With Crossover you would not need neither Virtual Box or the guest Windows.
[02:50] <Brandy> but it will work completley ??
[02:50] <Brandy> i need all apps to work
[02:50] <actionparsnip> Brandy: crossover does cost though
[02:50] <Guest44248> hello. I just installed ubuntu and everything works well, except for the fullscreen mode of youtube and other videos on the internet. Can anybody help me? I have a graphics card (nvidia) and it's supported and drivers are installed. The little mode works perfect. Fullscreen of downloaded videos works well.
[02:51] <actionparsnip> Brandy: check the crossover compatibility sheet
[02:51] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: exact words: "You have just inserted a medium with digital photos.  Choose what application to launch"
[02:51] <sander__> Anyone know how I can make sure I'm using an apt repository right?
[02:51] <random314> Brandy: In my experience using Crossover Office it has worked perfectly.  The only thing about Crossover is that it is a paid program.
[02:51] <xangua> Guest44248: that's a common issue with adobe flash plugin, not ubuntu
[02:51] <rodolfo> yes
[02:51] <rodolfo> but only when i open the folder
[02:51] <Guest44248> xangua: is there some workaround or anything I can do?
[02:51] <Brandy> about how mutch
[02:51] <KE1HA> sander__, comment out all but the PPA repo that you want in your source list.
[02:52] <w1n5ton> I think it's screwed up because the battery died in the middle of an upgrade
[02:52] <actionparsnip> Guest44248: may help: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/fixing-fullscreen-flash-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[02:52] <KE1HA> make sure you add the Ley in System->Administration->Software Sources
[02:52] <rodolfo> and it says if i want to open f-spot
[02:52] <KE1HA> opps the Key
[02:52] <KE1HA> On the Auth TAB
[02:52] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay and in nautilus (on the desktop that is) can you go to and 'open' the iPod as though it were a drive?
[02:52] <Brandy> i love linus so far,,i have no problem until now that i want to back up
[02:52] <Brandy> why is that so hard to do ?
[02:52] <hiexpo> key is important
[02:52] <Guest44248> thanks a lot for this very fast answer. I'll try this out :)
[02:52] <actionparsnip> w1n5ton: boot to livecd, chroot to the installed system and run: sudo apt-get -f install
[02:53] <random314> Brandy: Crossover Linux: $39.95 Standardm $69.95 Pro. $USD Go to: http://www.codeweavers.com
[02:53] <Brandy> ok
[02:53] <KE1HA> Brandy, Just copy the VM directory to a new location. Problem solved, then Burn A DVD or somethign if you really want security
[02:53] <sander__> KE1HA, Found http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages
[02:53] <w1n5ton> It boots
[02:53] <sander__> KE1HA, Found http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Packages
[02:53] <w1n5ton> It it's just acting funny
[02:53] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: for me i can see the iPod by its name under the 'Places' menu.  Can you?
[02:53] <actionparsnip> Guest44248: basically you want OverrideGPUValidation = 1   in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
[02:53] <rodolfo> yes
[02:53] <Brandy> jajaja thas funny
[02:53] <Brandy> well
[02:53] <sander__> KE1HA, I also got: Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-nb
[02:54] <Brandy> can i boot a live vertion of linux
[02:54] <etrask> Hello, I need to find out the brand and model of mouse embedded in my laptop using Ubuntu
[02:54] <Brandy> and create a iso from my hard  disk
[02:54] <arrrghhh> Brandy, it's not very simple.
[02:54] <actionparsnip> Brandy: you can use partimage to make a disk image
[02:54] <KE1HA> sander__, ad the one you want, comment out those your dont, add the Auth Key's as stated earlier.
[02:54] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: Great!  Thats means you're past some of the most difficult challenges already.  So what happens when you open Rythmbox?
[02:54] <arrrghhh> Brandy, or clonezilla.  or even better spool up an amahi server - but you need another rig for that!
[02:54] <hiexpo> lsusb
[02:54] <Brandy> is a 160GB drive
[02:55] <Brandy> i have no place to put that
[02:55] <Brandy> i need a system image
[02:55] <arrrghhh> Brandy, exactly.
[02:55] <rodolfo> let me see
[02:55] <sander__> KE1HA, I've done that.. And the add-apt-repository already added the auto key's
[02:55] <Brandy> now is about 20 GB im using
[02:55] <sander__> auth*
[02:55] <arrrghhh> Brandy, we gave some suggestions.
[02:55] <KE1HA> Is it causing you issues then ?
[02:55] <random314> Brandy: A full disc image backup would take a long time to do and you would have to do it everytime you changed your files.  If you just want a base image then fine but if your looking to back-up your files as you go then a full disk image is not suitable.
[02:55] <arrrghhh> Brandy, clonezilla, partimage
[02:55] <anthony_> hi guys i have a problem i can mount my external drive can any one help me. i don't know what to do. pls help me. im new to linux.
[02:56] <actionparsnip> anthony_: you dont mount drives, you mount partitions
[02:56] <arrrghhh> anthony_, soooo it's usb?  you plug it in, what happens?
[02:56] <KE1HA> sander__, Here's a simple How-To for repos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[02:56] <Brandy> i have clonezilla in a multy boot pendrive
[02:56] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, c'mon guy :P
[02:56] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: When i open rhythmbox, on the lefthand side down the page listed under 'Devices' is my ipod.  How about you?
[02:56] <Brandy> i try
[02:56] <rodolfo> no i opened songbird
[02:56] <Brandy> but need more time to understand
[02:56] <Brandy> im so desparete do do this
[02:56] <rodolfo> i have to install rithmbox
[02:56] <Brandy> i came for help
[02:56] <actionparsnip> anthony_: can you use http://pastie.org   to give the output of:  sudo fdisk -l; mount    thanks
[02:56] <arrrghhh> Brandy, it's not very easy.
[02:56] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: its a fact
[02:56] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: its on 10.04 by default
[02:57] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, i know, but he's a newb.  go a little easy on him will ya?
[02:57] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: are you on 10.04?
[02:57] <Brandy> well i guess i cant back up linux
[02:57] <rodolfo> no
[02:57] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: i was easy, i simply informed of the facts
[02:57] <anthony_> i can't mount any of my external partition. can any one help me.
[02:57] <Brandy> just what the system brings
[02:57] <arrrghhh> Brandy, that's right.  you just _can't_.
[02:57] <hiexpo> anything in life is worth time  !linux
[02:57] <Brandy> no good about linux
[02:57] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[02:57] <rodolfo> on 9.14
[02:58] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, alrighty, i'll drop it...
[02:58] <Brandy> it will be a nice suggestion fot the developers
[02:58] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: you mean 9.04 or 9.10?
[02:58] <epinky> w1n5ton: how does it look now?
[02:58] <random314> Brandy: All your files on Linux (the ones not in the Windows guest) are in your /home/USERNAME folder.  That is ideally all you should be backing up.  Everything else is easy to just reinstall if you have to!
[02:58] <|enigma|> hi guys I have csv log file but I need to look at those logs, but it is more than 100MB so cat is best but I need to filter from starting number such as 1 or 2, or 3 etc..
[02:58] <actionparsnip> anthony_: if you give teh paste, we can advise. run the command, copy the text, paste to the pastebin and hit the paste button. When the page changes, copy the new address in the address bar and paste in here
[02:58] <|enigma|> how can I do that
[02:58] <hiexpo> Rudemeister,  9.14
[02:58] <rkirmizi> is there anyway 2 disable services from startup (like apache mysql-server)
[02:58] <rodolfo> sorry
[02:58] <Brandy> i personally think is the bes suggestion ever for linus systems
[02:58] <arrrghhh> Brandy, what make bit-for-bit copies easier?  no body really uses them.
[02:58] <rodolfo> 9.10
[02:58] <Brandy> nop inside the machine
[02:58] <hiexpo> mean oops 9.10
[02:58] <w1n5ton> Running partial upgrade trying to clean it up first
[02:59] <arrrghhh> Brandy, that wasn't a complete sentence.
[02:59] <katoen> |enigma|: those lines start with numbers?
[02:59] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay, that should work.  9.10 has a lot of similarity to 10.04 (not everything, but many things similar)
[02:59] <random314> Brandy: Again with Crossover (or WINE for free and more complicated) all your files would be in your /home folder so would be simple to just back up those files.
[02:59] <|enigma|> yeap
[02:59] <epinky> w1n5ton: screenshot of phpmyadmin?
[02:59] <rodolfo> ok
[02:59] <Brandy> well the files in the windows side are insede the windows side
[02:59] <|enigma|> some start with 1,
[02:59] <|enigma|> then 2, 3, 4 up to 10
[02:59] <KE1HA> arrrghhh, rsync the folder offsite, then do incremental backups, keeping the inital a ful backup.
[02:59] <Brandy> i dont know how to see my files from linux side
[02:59] <w1n5ton> phpmyadmin?
[02:59] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, i may be pokin the fire, but why aren't you running 10.04?  they just releaed .1 :D
[02:59] <actionparsnip> !boot | rkirmizi
[02:59] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: if you go under 'Sound and Video' is Rhythmbox there?
[02:59] <Brandy> from windows
[02:59] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, but that's not bit-for-bit.  what about my MBR?
[03:00] <random314> Brandy: Because you're using a virtual machine, all your little files to back up and hidden inside one big file of the virtual machine.  That complicates backing them up.
[03:00] <rodolfo> no
[03:00] <arrrghhh> Brandy, you have you share them.
[03:00] <KE1HA> On the VM it would be, not the Host OS, no.
[03:00] <nUboon2Age> I'm asking about Rhythmbox just because i'm familiar with it and its a default program. rodolfo
[03:00] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, oh i thought we were still talking about host&guest.
[03:00] <epinky> w1n5ton: that was the link about? wasn't it?
[03:00] <Brandy> thats ok i keep working like that VM is just foe work
[03:01] <w1n5ton> No
[03:01] <jguzikowski> If I want to completely skin gnome, what am I looking for? a gtk+ theme?
[03:01] <rodolfo> im installing it
[03:01] <KE1HA> The Host needs a diffrent solution, Ghost, Raid, SAN, Etc.
[03:01] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay well when you start Songbird do you find your iPod listed?  (i'm not familiar with it so i'm in the dark here)
 any idea
[03:01] <w1n5ton> it was just a screenshot of what I want the tabs to look like
[03:01] <rodolfo> no
[03:01] <Brandy> and i save them somewhere else too just in case
[03:01] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, agreed :D
[03:01] <w1n5ton> brb
[03:01] <w1n5ton> gonna reboot
[03:01] <linguini> How can I force a certain Mode/ModeLine to be used when starting X?
[03:01] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: oh, you're installing Rhythmbox now?
[03:01] <linguini> In particular, X is choosing 1600x1200, which is invalid for my monitor.
[03:02] <actionparsnip> linguini: if you set an xorg.conf you can set the leftmost value in xorg.conf
[03:02] <random314> Brandy: You can email the critical files to back up to yourself (get a gmail account for lots of storage) AND IF you have the Virtual Box, NOT Virtual Box OSE installed then you can backup your work files to a flash drive too.  Virtual Box OSE doesn't have USB support for flash drives.
[03:02] <rodolfo> yes
[03:02] <arrrghhh> Brandy, you can also share files between linux host and windows guest.
[03:02] <actionparsnip> random314: you can share the mounted folder as a folder in vbox to get round though :)
[03:02] <arrrghhh> obviously that doesn't secure you againt a hdd failure.
[03:02] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay and i'm also installing Songbird...
[03:02] <linguini> actionparsnip, Set the leftmost value?
[03:02] <random314> Brandy: Yes, to share files install the "Guest Additions" inside of your Windows guest.
[03:02] <Brandy> i manage to use my pendrives in virtualbox
[03:03] <Brandy> i have the 3.2.6
[03:03] <Brandy> vertion
[03:03] <linguini> actionparsnip, I am trying to write an xorg.conf file because my monitor has a bad EDID (apparently).
[03:03] <anthony_> about my problem this is the error  "You are not privileged to mount the volume 'Elements'" pls help me fix this error.
[03:03] <jguzikowski> If I want to completely skin gnome, what am I looking for? a gtk+ theme? metacity? gnome-look is confusing the hell out of me
[03:03] <rodolfo> i finished
[03:03] <arrrghhh> Brandy, it's the OSE (open source ed.) is the one that doesn't have usb drivers, or RDP.
[03:03] <random314> Brandy: If you can use a pendrive then I'm certain you have the full Virtual Box installed and not Virtual Box OpenSourceEdition
[03:03] <actionparsnip> linguini: yes, you will define resolutions in xorg.conf, the leftmost is the default. alternatively you can set an xrandr command to set the res at logon
[03:03] <Brandy> and also installed a guest that alloud me to use with out capturing the mouse
[03:03] <actionparsnip> linguini: yeah some do
[03:03] <linguini> actionparsnip, leftmost of what?
[03:03] <random314> Brandy: Ok, I thought OSE didn't have USB - You know better since your using it!
[03:03] <Brandy> it is the opensource one
[03:03] <linguini> actionparsnip, I will paste my current xorg.conf...
[03:03] <actionparsnip> linguini: the modes in the display section
[03:04] <actionparsnip> linguini: if you wanna
[03:04] <arrrghhh> Brandy, not if USB is working on the guest...
[03:04] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay when you open RB do you see your iPod listed under 'Devices' on the left?
[03:04] <Brandy> Oracle VM virtualbox
[03:04] <Brandy> 3.2.6
[03:04] <Brandy> if u have that i can tell u how to use pendrives
[03:04] <arrrghhh> Brandy, yes, and there's 2 versions.  closed & open source - the closed source ed has additional features like usb and rdp.
[03:04] <Brandy> in ur vm
[03:04] <arrrghhh> oy ve.
[03:04] <rodolfo> no
[03:05] <random314> Brandy: If a pendrive is working for you, that is a good solution!  Seriously, backing up to a pendrive is a decent way to go about it!
[03:05] <Brandy> i manage to use USB on the opensource one,just doing researchs online
[03:05] <actionparsnip> Brandy: just use a dropbox, makes life easier
[03:05] <Brandy> i know,,thats daily bases for me
[03:05] <anthony_> actionparsnip:  about my problem this is the error  "You are not privileged to mount the volume 'Elements'" pls help me fix this error.
[03:05] <itsTodd> I'm going to be running a stable version of Ubuntu Server on Rackspace Cloud to host a web application of mine. What is the best way to keep up with security patches etc..? Is that something to worry about?
[03:05] <w1n5ton> the partial updater fixed it
[03:05] <Brandy> dont trust computers no more
[03:05] <random314> Brandy: But JUST backing up your work files, not the complete disc image.
[03:05] <nUboon2Age> On top is Library with several items, then Stores with several items, then Devices, then Playlists
[03:05] <etrask> hello how can I get hardware device information in Ubuntu?
[03:06] <sander__> KE1HA, I know that stuff about repos.. Here i've done the exact same thing on both my ubuntu desktop 64bit systems: http://pastebin.com/7zkRLKCG
[03:06] <actionparsnip> anthony_: can you give a pastebin of the output of the command I gave please
[03:06] <nUboon2Age> On top is Library with several items, then Stores with several items, then Devices, then Playlists rodolfo
[03:06] <Brandy> how about backup my softwares
[03:06] <sander__> KE1HA, still diffrent result.
[03:06] <Brandy> si if any i can have them back up
[03:06] <Brandy> i have almost all linux distros here live cds
[03:06] <linguini> actionparsnip, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/UYpcWHVh
[03:06] <actionparsnip> Brandy: i doubt that very highly
[03:06] <Brandy> but softwares not a single one
[03:06] <rkirmizi> actionparsnip, thx :D
[03:06] <anthony_> i already paste it.
[03:06] <arrrghhh> Brandy, we gave you solutions for that!  rsync if you don't want bit-for-bit, partimage, clonezilla etc for if you do!
[03:07] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: are you seeing all that in the upper lefthand side?
[03:07] <rodolfo> is device menu
[03:07] <KE1HA> sander__, what do you mean, diffrent results, what is tha ACTUALLY FAULT OR PROBLEM UR TRYING TO SOLVE THEN ?
[03:07] <random314> Brandy: Software is better to just reinstall.  It can be time consuming if you have to install the host OS first THEN install a guest OS BUT your system shouldn't need that very often at all.  Once it's set up you're usually good to just use it indefinitely.
[03:07] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: please go on...
[03:07] <actionparsnip> linguini: in the subsections in the screen section you define modes there too
[03:07] <rww> itsTodd: subscribe to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce
[03:07] <linguini> actionparsnip, I created the xorg.conf file by doing: Xorg :1 -configure
[03:07] <rodolfo> oh, no sorry there is not device menu
[03:07] <Brandy> well what about a list that runs on terminal with all my softwares
[03:07] <linguini> actionparsnip, (and then editing...)
[03:07] <sander__> KE1HA, I'm trying to reinstall the xbmc packages.. since I had an svn apt mirror.. I want to install the packages from the stable mirror
[03:07] <rafiyr> where does one set global search domains without having to add them to each connection in nm?
[03:07] <etrask> hello how can I get hardware device information in Ubuntu?
[03:08] <itsTodd> rww: thank you
[03:08] <Brandy> so they can be installed
[03:08] <maco> etrask: sudo lshw
[03:08] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: so you see the Library, Stores, Playlists? but no Devices?
[03:08] <anthony_>  actionparsnip: this is what popup 'You are not privileged to mount the volume 'Elements'
[03:08] <rodolfo> there are other 3 menus
[03:08] <Brandy> via terminal
[03:08] <sander__> KE1HA, means.. "downgrading" a package version.
[03:08] <arrrghhh> Brandy, listen to random314 he speaks wisdom.  most people don't need bit-for-bit copies because complete hard drive failures are rare, and bit-for-bit copies are freaking annoying.
[03:08] <rodolfo> yes
[03:08] <etrask> maco that didn't give me what I needed, I need to know the brand and model of embedded mousepad on my laptop :(
[03:08] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay
[03:08] <KE1HA> Yeah, that's a whoel diffrent kettle of fish.
[03:08] <sander__> KE1HA, from 1:10.08~svn32246-lucid1 to 1:9.11-lucid2
[03:08] <actionparsnip> anthony_: I can't advise til you give me the output of the commands: sudo fdisk -l; mount    use http://pastie.org to give the output
[03:08] <sander__> KE1HA, if thats possible..
[03:09] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay, that's interesting/annoying. :/
[03:09] <Brandy> i need security on linux
[03:09] <KE1HA> All things are "Possible" thing is, whats required to achieve it.
[03:09] <Brandy> so i can feel good about it
[03:09] <actionparsnip> linguini: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/BbREXYb0
[03:09] <Brandy> i dont want to worried
[03:09] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, can i make my nissan maxima all wheel drive twin turbo rb26?  sure.  $$$ will get you there.  sorry i had to.
[03:09] <rafiyr> :q
[03:09] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: I'm starting Songbird now to see where it is in there...
[03:10] <actionparsnip> linguini: obviously change the resolutions to ones you want to use
[03:10] <arrrghhh> Brandy, then backup your essential files, the ones you can't recreate.  software is easily reinstalled.
[03:10] <VS-> I uhh... need some help installing :(
[03:10] <rodolfo> ok
[03:10] <KE1HA> sander__, I must say, Im not the best expert on downgrading, but will have a nose around and see what I can find.
[03:10] <Brandy> ok i do that
[03:10] <actionparsnip> Brandy: then use sudo as little as possible, default settings are ok
[03:10] <Brandy> mabe i need a Terrabite
[03:10] <arrrghhh> Brandy, then there's nothing to worry about!
[03:10] <jguzikowski> anyone know any good gnome themes that have very 'thin' window headers? the defaults of ubuntu are so damn huge it covers up so much of my netbooks screen
[03:10] <anthony_> this is the output "Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[03:10] <anthony_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[03:10] <anthony_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[03:10] <anthony_> Disk identifier: 0x638edad0
[03:10] <anthony_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:10] <FloodBot3> anthony_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <anthony_> /dev/sda1               1        3824    30716248+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:11] <KwikkSilva> Can anyone heklp me with an Ubuntu Remote Desktop resolution problem? Can't get more than 800x600 on 10.04
[03:11] <actionparsnip> anthony_: use http://pastie.org to give the output, is what I said twice...
[03:11] <sander__> KE1HA, kinda strange that it says: #
[03:11] <sander__> Reinstallation of xbmc is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[03:11] <Brandy> i have full screen on remote desktop
[03:11] <epinky> KwikkSilva: "from" or "to" ?
[03:12] <Brandy> on a Acer 5315 Piece of @#$%^ computer
[03:12] <Brandy> im sure u can pal
[03:12] <rodolfo> it says library, downloads, playlists and favorites
[03:12] <arrrghhh> Brandy, that's quite an attitude!
[03:12] <actionparsnip> Brandy: bet its better than anything i have
[03:12] <Brandy> are u using the sotware the machine brings to do that
[03:12] <KwikkSilva> epinky, I'm trying to get from 800x600 to something higher - monitor can take 1920x1080
[03:13] <arrrghhh> KwikkSilva, you're using vino... or what?
[03:13] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i'm checking it out now but i haven't found the 'devices' part yet.
[03:13] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[03:13] <KwikkSilva> tightvnc viewer
[03:13] <anthony_> actionparsnip: i cannot access that website http://pastie.org
[03:13] <epinky> KwikkSilva: I meant the RDP is from or to?
[03:13] <actionparsnip> anthony_: try: http://pastebin.ca/
[03:14] <KwikkSilva> actionparsnip, 00:04.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
[03:14] <etrask> is there a simple command to list the brand/model of hardware on my machine?
[03:14] <Brandy> try using remote desktop viewer
[03:14] <sander__> KE1HA, This did it :-): apt-get --reinstall install xbmc=1:9.11-lucid2 xbmc-bin=1:9.11-lucid2 xbmc-data=1:9.11-lucid2 xbmc-skin-confluence=1:9.11-lucid2
[03:14] <etrask> lspci and lshw don't help me :-/
[03:14] <Brandy> the one the Ubuntu Brings
[03:14] <koshari> etrask lspci
[03:15] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: ok then use that to find guides. search for: ubuntu VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
[03:15] <koshari> etrask what particuly are oyu looking for
[03:15] <KwikkSilva> Brandy - i'm coming from Win XP
[03:15] <jguzikowski> anyone know any good gnome themes that have very 'thin' window headers? the defaults of ubuntu are so damn huge it covers up so much of my netbooks screen
[03:15] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i think i figured out what's going on...
[03:15] <KE1HA> sander__, what was the result ?
[03:15] <actionparsnip> jguzikowski: are you using compiz?
[03:15] <etrask> koshari I need to know the brand/model of the crappy little mousepad embedded in my laptop
[03:15] <jguzikowski> actionparsnip, not really sure..whatever is default on gnome
[03:16] <Taev> hey Im having a problem getting a TCL script to work its saying " [Discogs] Failed to load: version conflict for package "http": have 2.5.3, need 2.7.1"
[03:16] <actionparsnip> jguzikowski: do you have 3d accelleration enabled?
[03:16] <Brandy> in a virtual machine insede linux
[03:16] <arrrghhh> KwikkSilva, excuse my ignorance, but does mstsc work with it?
[03:16] <Brandy> or just XP
[03:16] <Taev> what is package http? when i search for http under synaptics it doesn't show anything
[03:16] <VS-> I have an operating system-less drive, and when I boot the Ubuntu CD, I get to a prompt... What can I do?
[03:16] <rodolfo> what?
[03:16] <jguzikowski> actionparsnip, i don't think so
[03:16] <koshari> etrask try lsusb, it may be a usb device
[03:16] <arrrghhh> Taev, there is no http package, what do you need??  apache?
[03:16] <Alias> anybody tried android development>
[03:16] <lexmarkhelp> has anyone gotten LEXMARK X5470 Printer to work?
[03:16] <Taev> thats what it says
[03:17] <VS-> Also, I encounter an "unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon" error.
[03:17] <Taev> HTTP Package 2.7.1.
[03:17] <sander__> KE1HA, obs.. seems like an install error.. I'll try to --purge the package and install it.
[03:17] <actionparsnip> jguzikowski: you can install emerald and get a thinner window decorator, if you dont use 3D accelleration you can install openbox and it will be thinner
[03:17] <arrrghhh> VS-, sounds lik your bios isn't booting from the cd
[03:17] <arrrghhh> Taev, uhm... why?
[03:17] <KE1HA> yes, autoclean, purege, clean would be wise.
[03:17] <Taev> i have no idea, heres what i get when i try and add the TCL script
[03:17] <Taev> " [Discogs] Failed to load: version conflict for package "http": have 2.5.3, need 2.7.1"
[03:17] <jguzikowski> actionparsnip, okay thanks..im not so good with mixing windows managers
[03:18] <KwikkSilva> arrrghhh, nope
[03:18] <abhijit> !ptinter | lexmarkhelp
[03:18] <etrask> koshari it lists my normal USB mouse but everything else says Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[03:18] <abhijit> !ptint | lexmarkhelp
[03:18] <arrrghhh> KwikkSilva, ah, it was worth a shot :P  are you sure it's not a limitation in tight or anything like that?
[03:18] <KwikkSilva> Brandy, Ubuntu is running on a Dell 650 Server, XP is running on my laptop
[03:18] <abhijit> !print | lexmarkhelp
[03:18] <abhijit> :)
[03:18] <arrrghhh> Taev, what are you doing?   TCL script?
[03:18] <koshari> etrask googling the model may be an alternative,
[03:18] <KwikkSilva> arrrghhh, pretty sure i think its server side - i've read alot of posts
[03:19] <arrrghhh> KwikkSilva, well maybe it's a limitation of the server.
[03:19] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: here's something on songbird/ipod compatibility: http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird/topics/sync_songs_to_ipod?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_songbird
[03:19] <mkquist> 10.4 reinstall, no sound, worked fine before, still works in windows... machine 'sees' the soundcard, but in sound preferences there is no hardware, lspci -v shows the card, but capabilites 'denied access'... any ideas?
[03:19] <Brandy>  ok
[03:19] <etrask> koshari ... that was simpler than it had to be. Thanks a bunch :P
[03:19] <Taev> ok i think its talking about a http package for the source tcl program
[03:19] <Taev> thanks anyways guys
[03:19] <actionparsnip> !sound | mkquist
[03:19] <KwikkSilva> arrrghhh, i'd be surprised - surely it can do better than 800x600
[03:19] <lexmarkhelp> I have tried using CUPS, but that doesn't work. When I got to printing, ubuntu detects the printer but deosnt print.
[03:19] <VS-> I'm pretty sure it may be related to the "Error: unexpectedly disconected from boot status daemon".
[03:20] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: it can, it just needs some config
[03:20] <arrrghhh> KwikkSilva, lol you never know.  what's the host set to?
[03:20] <samII> hi
[03:20] <mkquist> actionparsnip: yeah, already been there, just looking for other thoughts
[03:20] <KwikkSilva> actionparsnip, yeah i had a look around and there was mention of xconf
[03:20] <sander__> KE1HA, worked.. after I did apt-get remove --purge
[03:20] <actionparsnip> mkquist: run alsamixer in terminal, make sure all is cranked. Just because the chip is seen doesnt mean its configured
[03:20] <KwikkSilva> but people reckoned it screwed their settings
[03:20] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: then you will need to form an xorg.conf then
[03:20] <KE1HA> lexmarkhelp, Lexmark is not well suppirted on any linux distribution, I've found very few sucess cases using their printers on Linux.
[03:21] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: on Rhythmbox i think there's a library that needs to be installed for RB to work with it.  I'm not sure if it works on 9.10/Karmic... let me check...
[03:21] <Brandy> tri using ImInTouc to view ur destops on XP
[03:21] <lexmarkhelp> It worked when I used opensuse
[03:21] <sander__> KE1HA, thansk for the help tho.. to clearify the problem.
[03:21] <KE1HA> sander__, you should write upa "How-Too" for others wanting to do the same things.
[03:21] <Brandy> Im In Touch ups
[03:21] <Brandy> it is free
[03:21] <arrrghhh> lexmarkhelp, unfortunately KE1HA isn't joking.  i always buy hp printers for that reason.  and if that's the case then why not use opensuse?
[03:21] <rodolfo> it says songbird is not compatible since last year
[03:21] <[ZoD]Phantom> i have the "mount of root file system failed" how can i restore it?
[03:21] <linguini> actionparsnip, Thanks, seems to work!
[03:21] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: then their files were bad
[03:22] <mrconnerton> How can I run update-grub from a live cd, with the harddrive of the ubuntu installation I want to modify mounted
[03:22] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i'm not sure but the library might be the one listed under 'ipod' in Synaptic.  Do you have that?
[03:22] <samII> :-*
[03:22] <rodolfo> yes
[03:22] <Brandy> ok guys thenks for all
[03:23] <Brandy> i preciate all ur hel
[03:23] <lexmarkhelp> Oh, I see. I will buy an HP one next.
[03:23] <KE1HA> arrrghhh, cuz its an Ugly "Green" .. LOL
[03:23] <[ZoD]Phantom> i have the "mount of root file system failed" how can i fix this?
[03:23] <KwikkSilva> actionparsnip, is there a default xorg.conf i can use?
[03:23] <KwikkSilva> i found one - but i have no idea idf its going to hose the system
[03:23] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: try installling it and then restart RB and see if that shows your iPod then...
[03:24] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, yea but if it works with your printer... haha
[03:24] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: you can generate one in root recovery mode by running: Xorg --configure    you can then pad it from there
[03:24] <KE1HA> Not Mine, there all HP's, "Always" .. :-)
[03:24] <Dist`> is there a way I can 'restart' the ubuntu desktop without effecting the firefox downloasd I have running?
[03:24] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: you will need to reboot to get back to desktop
[03:24] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, ditto.
[03:24] <actionparsnip> Dist`: no, cant think of any way
[03:24] <Dist`> bah :(
[03:24] <arrrghhh> we use all HP at work, they are fantastic printers.
[03:25] <Dist`> my desktop is 'frozen', I can't even open folders through the panel at the top of my screen
[03:25] <rodolfo> ok
[03:25] <inktri> is it possible to download packages that exist on my laptop onto my desktop (which does not have internet access)?
[03:25] <rodolfo> i restart the computer?
[03:25] <rodolfo> or rithmbox?
[03:25] <KE1HA> Dist`, I dont think so, if you kill-X, it's going to gill any apps running onit, however, your download manager should pickup where it left off on resume.
[03:25] <Alias> Anyone good with Inkscape?
[03:26] <VS-> Also, arrrghhhm, it does boot, it just gets to this prompt with sudo, etc.
[03:26] <KwikkSilva> actionparsnip, i have no way of getting a monitor to thsi machine tonight so maybe i should hold off messing with it
[03:26] <KwikkSilva> need monitor for recoevery mode right?
[03:26] <Dist`> KE1HA unfortunately some of my downloads I have running are from websites that implement a 'queue'ing system where by if the download stops, you have to queue again and are given a new download link, which screws up resuming
[03:26] <Dist`> i guess my only option is to wait untill downloads finish and do a restart
[03:26] <guille1983> hey I tried to load the installer and it failed, it says it will load a default desktop session but it asks for a user and password. What is the default user/password ?
[03:27] <KE1HA> Bummer, know how that is, ya gotta get back in line, that sux.
[03:27] <Dist`> bit of a shame, in windows you can just kill explorer and start it again
[03:27] <arrrghhh> inktri, get debs?  i think there's a way.  can't remember.  google.
[03:27] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: no worries dude, smoe cards dont pick up automagicaqlly and canonical seem to thing udev can find all but it doesnt, an xorg.conf file is often needed but lucid doesn't ship with one by default
[03:27] <Dist`> oh well, thanks anyway
[03:27] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: install the ipod package and then restart Rhythmbox.  i don't think you'll need to restart computer, but if it doesn't work immediately try rebooting.
[03:28] <rodolfo> ok
[03:28] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: then if that doesn't work i found an alternative method:    http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/easy-way-to-sync-your-iphone-with.html
[03:28] <KE1HA> Alias, dont know about Inkscape, but another good Vector Graphics package in Blender :-)
[03:28] <perlsyntax> How do i check to see what sound baster sound card i have?
[03:28] <RandyRKelly> Hello help
[03:28] <[ZoD]Phantom> how do i start x from a shell?
[03:28] <arrrghhh> xstart
[03:29] <arrrghhh> or /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:29] <RandyRKelly> How do I connect to.wireless
[03:29] <perlsyntax> does anyone know how to look up my sound card i got??
[03:29] <KE1HA> perlsyntax, yank the chip and look on the package :-) ... kjust kidding, LSPCI should say.
[03:29] <arrrghhh> RandyRKelly, depends on your card, can you pastebin lsusb and lspci?
[03:29] <perlsyntax> you mean lspci
[03:29] <arrrghhh> sorry that's startx
[03:29] <RandyRKelly> New to Ubuntu
[03:29] <KE1HA> rrr yes, sri
[03:29] <arrrghhh> isn't that what i said?
[03:29] <[ZoD]Phantom> arrrghhh im at root@user-desktop
[03:30] <arrrghhh> did you try either of those?
[03:30] <actionparsnip> perlsyntax: sudo lshw -C sound
[03:30] <KE1HA> I put mine in CAPS as Im not to smart that way :-)
[03:30] <[ZoD]Phantom> arrrghhh and i tried xstart and nothing no command found
[03:30] <arrrghhh> [ZoD]Phantom, sorry startx
[03:30] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: and that way says they tested with Karmic/9.10 so that should work.  There are many programs to work w/ music and ipod, but of  course its challenging to work with iPod because Apple keeps changing things with their firmware, etc. that makes it hard to keep compatibility working (as the post re: Songbird said.  Finally Songbird stopped trying it looks like).  But i'm sure there'll be several different programs that will
[03:30] <nUboon2Age> work.
[03:30] <actionparsnip> RandyRKelly: run: sudo lshw -C network     what is the product line in your wireless device
[03:31] <rodolfo> yes
[03:31] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: nUboon2Age http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/sync-iphone-and-ipod-touch-in-ubuntu.html
[03:31] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, have a go at: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:31] <KE1HA> then startx
[03:31] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA im having a main problem first:
[03:32] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA i have the "mount of root file system failed" how can i fix this?
[03:32] <KE1HA> but save your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak or somethign first.
[03:32] <picard1421> hey guys is there a good guide on setting up an openVPN connection to tunnel ALLL data through a VPN?
[03:32] <picard1421> basically if its not going through the VPN then no data goes through at all? what would be the procedure for setting that up
[03:32] <Guest98392> What is the best IRC chat program for linux?
[03:32] <RandyRKelly> Well give me a min
[03:32] <arrrghhh> Guest98392, i like xchat.
[03:32] <actionparsnip> Guest98392: there is no best IRC app.
[03:32] <uRock> gnome-xchat
[03:32] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Hmm, what happened that caused that ?
[03:32] <Corsairs> or Konversation
[03:32] <actionparsnip> Guest98392: there is no best anything in life
[03:33] <actionparsnip> !irc | Guest98392
[03:33] <uRock> chatzilla works decently
[03:33] <Guest21090> is dsl based on ubuntu
[03:33] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, lol your comments are awesome.
[03:33] <picard1421> anybody?
[03:33] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA no idea, my cousin uses the pc
[03:33] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: it just really baffles me how people can even concieve a universal "best" of anything
[03:33] <abhijit_> !openvpn | picard1421
[03:33] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, have you looked at your FSTAB  .. ?
[03:34] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, i know.  but i'm constantly googling "best of ..." to see what people *think* is the best.  then i make my own conclusion based on my needs/wants.
[03:34] <KE1HA> fixing X-org is secondary at this point.
[03:34] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA tahts what im looking at but i have no idea what all that means
[03:34] <uRock> it is better to be fed many options as opposed to none
[03:34] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, but that link you gave him/her was very helpful so i'm not dogging on you at all.
[03:34] <perlsyntax> does anyone know if X-FI Xtreme audio is support by ubuntu?
[03:34] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: exactly, for some, even living isn't best
[03:34] <KE1HA> what is the "exact" error yoru getting?
[03:34] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, ouch!  but true enough.
[03:34] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: thank you i'll check that out...
[03:34] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: didnt detect any dogging dude, its all good
[03:35] <perlsyntax> or is there a howto for it
[03:35] <VS-> I'm trying to newly install, and I get to a prompt with "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$"
[03:35] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343744 that msg
[03:35] <arrrghhh> VS-, that's after you've installed ubuntu?
[03:35] <VS-> No.
[03:35] <VS-> Before.
[03:36] <arrrghhh> booting livecd?
[03:36] <uRock> That is the LiveCD's prompt
[03:36] <actionparsnip> perlsyntax: cretaive cards are quite tricky to get going. personally i aviod them like paris hilton avoids talent
[03:36] <VS-> Oh.
[03:36] <VS-> I get to it anytime I try to install though.
[03:36] <actionparsnip> perlsyntax: not worth the hassle
[03:36] <uRock> Once you install it will be screenname@PCname
[03:36] <perlsyntax> is there a howto
[03:36] <arrrghhh> VS-, wait, do you get a prompt to "try or install" basically when the disc boots?
[03:37] <VS-> No.
[03:37] <VS-> I don't.
[03:37] <tensorpudding> VS-: are you not using the graphical install?
[03:37] <arrrghhh> it'll have more options, like test memory
[03:37] <nUboon2Age> Guest98392: I like Konversation for irc.
[03:37] <VS-> I can't, it doesn't give me an option to.
[03:37] <arrrghhh> VS-, yes, which disc did you download.  server edition or alternate installer perhaps?
[03:37] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, so was that your problem, or one similar?
[03:37] <tensorpudding> Which install disk are you using?
[03:37] <VS-> Desktop Edition :/
[03:37] <[ZoD]Phantom> ke1 the very same one, and im not sure how to fix it.
[03:37] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA the very same one, and im not sure how to fix it.
[03:37] <uRock> Sounds like a bad image?
[03:38] <tensorpudding> VS-: any errors on boot?
[03:38] <tensorpudding> is this for 10.04?
[03:38] <arrrghhh> VS-, could be a bad image like uRock said.  do you get any other errors?  it just drops a prompt?
[03:38] <allguru> i know that this is in-relevant a bit , but it's URGENT :( , the site www.noobsnetwork.com is going to be a site for educating 3D and Engineering and Web Design in Video Tutorials , i want to use my old domain www.open-class.org for the site , but this dark theme isn't suitable , what about this light one http://noobsnetwork.com/portal.php?style=1 , you can talk to me to proof that i'm not a spam bot , lol ..
[03:38] <VS-> Unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon.
[03:38] <arrrghhh> haha gang troubleshooting.
[03:38] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, follow that check-disk section and see where that gets you.
[03:38] <VS-> Yes, 10.04
[03:38] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA i got that and i think its fine.
[03:38] <uRock> !spam | allguru
[03:38] <roved2101> Boooooooooom!
[03:38] <arrrghhh> VS-, did you do a MD5 checksum before you burned?
[03:38] <arrrghhh> VS-, does the disc work in any other computers?
[03:38] <tensorpudding> it seems like it could be possible that the xorg autoconfiguration got botched, i suppose
[03:39] <VS-> It does.
[03:39] <mkquist> actionparsnip: thanx for that, turns out i hadnt been to all of those pages, sounds up now... =)
[03:39] <KE1HA> and did you re-mount the partition and fix the fstab afterwards ?
[03:39] <allguru> uRock , no dude :(
[03:39] <allguru> uRock: i need help
[03:39] <arrrghhh> VS-, there's something it doesn't like about the hardware.  you can try the alternate install disc, but no promises.
[03:39] <allguru> uRock: the other rooms are dead .
[03:39] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA what you mean, how i remount?
[03:40] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA was it the sudo mount -o etc etc?
[03:40] <allguru> ok , Bye :( .
[03:40] <KE1HA> udo mount -o remount,rw /
[03:40] <VS-> So there's nothing I can do with this prompt?
[03:40] <KE1HA> sudo .. .. ..
[03:40] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA just did that, after that what else?
[03:40] <arrrghhh> VS-, i mean you can try some things, but if the disc boots on other computers then there's probably some hardware that isn't playing nice.
[03:40] <Taev> Im trying to install the http module for TCL, im specifying where its at and I keep getting "checking for Tcl configuration... configure: error: /usr/share/tcltk/tcl8.4/tclConfig.sh directory doesn't contain tclConfig.sh"
[03:40] <actionparsnip> mkquist: nice
[03:41] <VS-> What can I do?
[03:41] <rodolfo> it still dont say devices
[03:41] <KE1HA> do a quick ls -al on the fstab and see who the owner & group is
[03:41] <arrrghhh> Taev, what is tcl?
[03:41] <Dev_> hmm XChat 2 keeps crashing
[03:41] <Taev> how can ./tcl8.4/tclConfig.sh NOT contain tclConfig.sh
[03:41] <Taev> its a scripting language
[03:41] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: you're back.  okay, so i guess its time to try the second method.
[03:41] <lfaraone> If you don't have plymouth installed, say, on a server, does "splash" in the kernel parameter do antyhing?
[03:41] <rodolfo> ok
[03:42] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: here's something on songbird/ipod compatibility: http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird/topics/sync_songs_to_ipod?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_songbird
[03:42] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: oops, wrong one
[03:42] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA i did the "ls -al" and i got a list, what am i looking for?
[03:42] <arrrghhh> Taev, sounds awful.  probalby outside of the scope of this room, no offense.
[03:42] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: then if that doesn't work i found an alternative method:    http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/easy-way-to-sync-your-iphone-with.html
[03:42] <Dev_> actionparsnip, crap - crashed the xorg server
[03:42] <uRock> allguru, sorry, my kid wanted ice cream and she is my boss
[03:43] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: which looks like its really the same as the one actionparsnip posted
[03:43] <KE1HA> Thr Group and Owner., The problem is more than likely a curruption error and will take fdisk to fix it.
[03:43] <bjegovic> WHAT DO COMMAND sudo rm -rf /*
[03:43] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: here's actionparsnip's version: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/sync-iphone-and-ipod-touch-in-ubuntu.html
[03:43] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, [ZoD]Phantom have you fsck'd it?
[03:43] <[ZoD]Phantom> arrrghhh how do i do that?
[03:43] <arrrghhh> bjegovic, remove everything.  you trolled around until someone told you to do it huh
[03:43] <Melodist> hello guys, I need help
[03:44] <PeterDrop> 4 hours trying to get sound on flash, any help here please
[03:44] <abhijit> !danger | bjegovic
[03:44] <KE1HA> Yeah, in a ternimal window, you need to do a few things.
[03:44] <xangua> !ops | bjegovic
[03:44] <nUboon2Age> bjegovic: i hope you're kidding.  Don't do that.
[03:44] <bjegovic> William told me to type that
[03:44] <arrrghhh> [ZoD]Phantom, i believe it's just "fsck /dev/disk"
[03:44] <maco> bjegovic: it deletes everything
[03:44] <bjegovic> ohhh
[03:44] <DasEi> !danger | bjegovic
[03:44] <KE1HA> in a terminla sudo fdisk -l  what your looking for is the root partition.
[03:44] <[ZoD]Phantom> arrrghhh it says clean etc etc etc
[03:45] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA is sda1
[03:45] <bjegovic> i didnt typed that xD
[03:45] <KE1HA> ok, is it ext3 or 4?
[03:45] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA ext3
[03:45] <nUboon2Age> bjegovic: glad to hear that!
[03:45] <KE1HA> ok, then: sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sda1
[03:45] <KE1HA> opps sri, ext 3
[03:45] <Melodist> my boyfriend is trying to install twin terminal window manager, but he seems to be missing GNU bash
[03:45] <KE1HA> Not 4
[03:45] <Melodist> how can he install it?
[03:45] <[ZoD]Phantom> let me see
[03:45] <bjegovic> for me too :P
[03:46] <Melodist> what package does it belong to or whatever?
[03:46] <bjegovic> some person from here told me that
[03:46] <rodolfo> when i try to add the repository it says command not found
[03:46] <bjegovic> William_Shaftner
[03:46] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, do:  sudo fsck.ext3 /dev/sda1
[03:46] <bjegovic> William_Shaftner told me on private to do that
[03:46] <lfaraone> Melodist: if you're using Ubuntu, you have to have bash installed. It won't boot without it, I'm pretty sure.
[03:46] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA i did, and it said clean etc etc
[03:46] <abhijit> bjegovic, thats why no pm.
[03:46] <maco> bjegovic: this is why you should get all support *in channel* not through PMs, that way you can be warned as soon as something bad is said
[03:46] <Melodist> hrm
[03:47] <lfaraone> Melodist: does "which bash" tell you anything if you run it in the terminal?
[03:47] <uRock> you'd think that the Intro to unix/linux book would say not to try that command
[03:47] <arrrghhh> bjegovic, and perhaps quit trolling about CS 1.6...
[03:47] <DasEi> Melodist: i tried terminator before, that did well for me, see :
[03:47] <Melodist> so then what other dependencies could he be missing? he already installed build essential, which installs gnu-make, right?
[03:47] <KE1HA> Ok, so its saying it's a clean partition, puzzling, only think I can think then is fstab is messed abotu somehow.
[03:47] <DasEi> !info terminator
[03:48] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: when you try to add which repository?
[03:48] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA this is one thing i saw when i did this command: "cat /etc/fstab":
[03:48] <KwikkSilva_> grrr
[03:48] <maco> Melodist: im also a fan of terminator
[03:48] <KwikkSilva_> stupid xchat
[03:48] <KE1HA> post the fstab output in pastbin
[03:48] <Melodist> im not sure what terminator is
[03:48] <rodolfo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pmcenery/ppa
[03:48] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA uuid ext3 errors=remount-ro
[03:48] <DasEi> !info terminator > Melodist
[03:49] <maco> Melodist: its a terminal emulator (can replace gnome-terminal) that does tiling stuff too
[03:49] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA how can i do that if i cant even get into ubuntu? im doing this through a diff pc.
[03:49] <Melodist> Oh
[03:49] <Melodist> I see
[03:49] <KwikkSilva_> k - forget the xserver - this ones more important anyway
[03:49] <KE1HA> do you have any fstab lines that start with dvpts ?
[03:49] <Melodist> so it does the same thing twin does?
[03:49] <maco> Melodist: i think so
[03:49] <KwikkSilva_> does this post make any sense to snayone - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1535015
[03:49] <Melodist> Alright
[03:49] <KwikkSilva_> I can;t get my server to be seen on the network
[03:49] <uRock> I tried the killer command in a vbox and it denied the command permission
[03:49] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: when i try sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pmcenery/ppa it works for me
[03:50] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Ok, sri, you need to Live-CD Boot and be on the PC to do all this stuff.
[03:50] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA is there a comand to know what version of ubuntu is on the pc?
[03:50] <maco> uRock: youd need sudo, and youd have to read the rm manpage to see that the syntax for the killer command has changed a bit to keep people who dont know it changed from destroying others' systems
[03:50] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, with the Live-CD you should be able to gain Net Acess and IRC from it.
[03:50] <uRock> nevermind, the vbox install is now ruined
[03:50] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: looks like we both used the exact same command.
[03:50] <DasEi> [ZoD]Phantom: lsb_release -a
[03:51] <maco> uRock: oh wait, the * was in there. yep just plain with sudo would work there
[03:51] <[ZoD]Phantom> ok its 9.10 ty
[03:51] <A-Non> Any time I enable compiz, the window borders and title bar disappear, and none of the effects work. Any help?
[03:51] <uRock> rm does its job well
[03:51] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: just to be sure i tried your command and it worked for me.
[03:52] <rodolfo> but why it dont works?
[03:52] <DasEi> A-Non: graphics capable and drivers well set ?
[03:52] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, cat/etc/lsb-release
[03:52] <KE1HA> I think :-)
[03:53] <A-Non> DasEi: ./compiz-check tells me it should work, drivers installed through hardware drivers menu
[03:53] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: need some help here.  rodolfo is trying to add a repository and is getting 'command not found'  for sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pmcenery/ppa
[03:53] <uRock> how do I move a home made command into one of the $PATH directories?
[03:54] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Additnally, I had all sorts of FS issues on 9.xx releases, I have (0) system with that distro on it, all 8.x or 10.x
[03:54] <Benny_132> Hey guys i have this 200mb text file, and there is a problem on like line 800,000 what is the best way to open the file at that location to check the line for errors
[03:54] <DasEi> A-Non: so maybe a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log could help, apart from
[03:54] <DasEi> !cssm
[03:54] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: rodolfo is on Karmic.  any ideas what could be going on?
[03:54] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, but clearly, there's a probple with the partition or fstab one or the other.
[03:54] <DasEi> !ccsm | A-Non
[03:54] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA wel i want to get my stuff from that pc and save it, and then install a new version
[03:54] <actionparsnip> nUboon2Age: check the release, add-apt-repository isn't in Hardy and may not be in Jaunty
[03:54] <A-Non> DasEi: I'll take a look in that I guess... I have CCSM installed
[03:54] <uRock> Benny_132, cat <name of file>
[03:55] <actionparsnip> !info add-apt-repository
[03:55] <actionparsnip> hmm
[03:55] <mnaines> I found out how to get Ubuntu to run entirely on a flash drive with persistence and zero hardware dependency, but it requires a flash drive with a minimum of 16GB capacity
[03:55] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, you can do that from the Live CD.
[03:55] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: thing is those instructions were specifically for Karmic (which rodolfo has)
[03:55] <[ZoD]Phantom> does it matter if i access it with livecd with a diff version?
[03:55] <abhijit> !usb | mnaines
[03:55] <KE1HA> provided you have like a USB key or / HDD or somethign.
[03:55] <DasEi> actionparsnip: works since ibex
[03:55] <uRock> or you can use more <nameoffile>
[03:56] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: nUboon2Age can you use a pastebin to give the output of: lsb_release -a
[03:56] <mnaines> abhijit, I'm not talking about installing Ubuntu from a flash drive, I am talking about installing it TO and running it on a flash drive.
[03:56] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: i tried it on Lucid and it worked for me.
[03:56] <actionparsnip> DasEi: well it ain working there :)
[03:56] <abhijit> mnaines, min requirement is about 4gb space only (apprx)
[03:56] <abhijit> mnaines, not of 16 gb
[03:56] <uRock> Benny_132, "vi <name of file> then scroll down to that line
[03:57] <guille1983> hey I tried to load the installer and it failed, it says it will load a default desktop session but it asks for a user and password. What is the default user/password ?
[03:57] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: do you understand what actionparsnip is asking for?
[03:57] <Ca5> âû åáëàíû
[03:57] <mnaines> abhijit, yes, but I say minimum 16GB flash drive capacity because you need room for swap space plus updates, customizations, and whatnot
[03:57] <rodolfo> no
[03:57] <Benny_132> uRock:  this file has over 1 million lines could take a while
[03:57] <Ca5> äà
[03:57] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: what is that program that automatically handles pastebin for you?
[03:57] <Ca5> áëÿòü
[03:57] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA i appreciate your help, ty.
[03:57] <Ca5> õóéëîëî
[03:57] <uRock> there is a way to name the line, but I'll have to search my Unix/Linux book
[03:57] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA livecd is loading
[03:58] <abhijit> !en | Ca5
[03:58] <test34> nubooontuL search for pastebin in Synaptic?
[03:58] <mnaines> abhijit, you can run Ubuntu entirely on a flash drive with persistence and no hardware dependency, but you need a 16GB flash drive or bigger
[03:58] <abhijit> mnaines, okk
[03:58] <littlebear> 16gb?
[03:58] <Ca5> èäè íàõóé ãîâíî
[03:58] <actionparsnip> nUboon2Age: try:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit; lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[03:58] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: test34 i found it
[03:58] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, got through the check-disk again when your Live-CD is loaded.
[03:58] <littlebear> mnaines: o.o, i ran puppylinux on a 8gb, it only needs 100mb
[03:58] <abhijit> so that want a language at all? :(
[03:58] <abhijit> wasnt*
[03:59] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: try sudo apt-get install pastebinit; lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[03:59] <mnaines> littlebear, I say 16GB because you need room for the swap space, all the updates, whatever customizations you decide to use
[03:59] <littlebear> mnaines: true
[03:59] <arrrghhh> littlebear, i've run ubuntu on 10gb but it was NOT easy.
[04:00] <littlebear> arrrghhh: 10gb flash drive? woah, that's painful
[04:00] <actionparsnip> littlebear: its enough for an ubuntu install dude
[04:00] <littlebear> arrrghhh: i noe that archlinux uses 300mb with their netinstall,
[04:00] <arrrghhh> littlebear, lol i was talking about a recovery portion converted into an ubuntu install but ok.
[04:00] <uRock> Benny_132, man grep look at the -c arguement
[04:00] <rodolfo> it worked
[04:00] <arrrghhh> littlebear, there's a netinstall of ubuntu that uses about the same.
[04:00] <Benny_132> uRock: ok thanks man
[04:00] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Here's the FS Wont Mount BUG on 9.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/468450   .. Probably a like or similar issue on your distro.
[04:00] <mnaines> arrrghhh, the problem with running Ubuntu entirely on a flash drive is it is painfully slow, you don't have much room for storing your files and stuff, but if you can tolerate that, you can actually be rest assured that you can use your full ubuntu setup on any machine that can boot from USB
[04:00] <arrrghhh> littlebear, but you don't get gnome or OOO do ya?  ;)
[04:01] <littlebear> of course not
[04:01] <neskapow_> hey whats up #
[04:01] <littlebear> arrrghhh: those are heavy space eaters lol
[04:01] <A-Non> Nothing in the Xorg.0.log jumps out at me aside from a missing "libwfb.so", could that cause title bars and window borders to disappear while running compiz?
[04:01] <littlebear> ooo by it self is something like 300 mb i recall
[04:01] <arrrghhh> mnaines, woah i didn't realize i was jumping into a case for using a flash drive to run ubuntu off of.
[04:01] <uRock> Benny_132, man grep look at the -n
[04:01] <arrrghhh> littlebear, that's my point.  ubuntu-desktop comes with A LOT and needs room to breathe.
[04:02] <arrrghhh> you could run ubuntu off a flash key for a server OS with hdd's for storage, but i've heard of ppl running into issues long-term.
[04:02] <littlebear> arrrghhh: yeah, i was stupid enough to think 10 gb was enough, now i only have 2 gb left
[04:02] <arrrghhh> ha, ouch.
[04:02] <DasEi> A-Non: might be, I just located it on my sys, it's : /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
[04:02] <arrrghhh> littlebear, i think it recommends 20gb...?
[04:03] <actionparsnip> littlebear: install lubuntu, its a very small ubuntu based system, vying for official status too
[04:03] <arrrghhh> littlebear, correction, 15gb.
[04:03] <DasEi> A-Non: looks like a missing module of xorg in first glance
[04:03] <rodolfo> sorry for the problems, im on my cousin laptop
[04:03] <actionparsnip> littlebear: or you could use puppy or damnsmall to make the system super faster
[04:03] <littlebear> actionparsnip: yeah, busy with life
[04:03] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: ok what is the URL it gave?
[04:03] <A-Non> DasEi: How would I fix that?
[04:03] <mnaines> arrrghhh, do you run Ubuntu entirely on a flash drive?
[04:03] <littlebear> actionparsnip: that's ram though
[04:03] <arrrghhh> mnaines, no.
[04:03] <rodolfo> but what i do next??
[04:04] <actionparsnip> littlebear: plus lighter in cpu too as well as smaller in HDD usage
[04:04] <littlebear> actionparsnip: unless you have your hdd entirely made up of ram, you're speed isn't going anywhere
[04:04] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Look at Post #19 on the link I sent you, this may be the smoking-gun for your issue.
[04:04] <arrrghhh> mnaines, but i know guys that run ubuntu-server on a usb key.
[04:04] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: tell us what the URL is that pastebinit produced.
[04:04] <mnaines> arrrghhh, I tried it once...Painfully slow and no room for any of my files, but I could use it on any machine that could boot from USB
[04:04] <DasEi> A-Non: try to backup xorg.conf, reconfigure the server, run a full update/grade, and set up xorg back, case lack of functionality
[04:04] <rodolfo> it gave me this
[04:04] <littlebear> mnaines: the puppylinux works great from usb, though corruption after awhile
[04:04] <arrrghhh> and i run the liveusb key edition or whatever, but i don't use it frequently.  just when i need it.  most guys get flash cards on the mobo - much faster bus that way.
[04:05] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: yes?  Gave which URL?
[04:05] <mnaines> arrrghhh, yes, but my intent is portability, being able to use my full-featured copy of Ubuntu on almost any newer machine I come to
[04:05] <DasEi> A-Non: need the commands for tthat ?
[04:05] <A-Non> DasEi: I know how to back up xorg.conf but I don't know what you mean by the rest of those steps, could you explain that in detail?
[04:05] <rodolfo> Distributor ID:	Jolicloud  Description:	Jolicloud robby (Final Release)  Release:	1.0  Codename:	robby
[04:05] <A-Non> DasEi: Yeah the commands would be helpful
[04:06] <rodolfo> what does it mean?
[04:06] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[04:06] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: actionparsnip oh rodolfo's got Jolicloud!
[04:06] <arrrghhh> mnaines, yea you can do that.  but like you said it's slow... i do the same thing, but again slow.  if the machine has a TON of ram it does make a difference tho.
[04:06] <rodolfo> whats that?
[04:07] <A-Non> DasEi: Alright, then what?
[04:07] <actionparsnip> nUboon2Age: its not supported here then
[04:07] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade (maybe note it and run it from init 1, as with x in use, things might be kept back)
[04:07] <mnaines> arrrghhh, yes.  As you said, its more useful on servers, and at this time, flash memory is not fast enough to use it for anything more than portable server operating systems
[04:07] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: actionparsnip: Jolicloud is based on Ubuntu, but is a derivative of Ubuntu.  Let's see where to get support for it...
[04:07] <rodolfo> ok
[04:07] <arrrghhh> wait, rodolfo isn't running ubuntu?
[04:07] <actionparsnip> nUboon2Age: true but many are based on ubuntu but still equally unsupported here
[04:08] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA ty, well im going to save the documents and reinstall using 10.04
[04:08] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, mind if i ask why you even came into this room then?
[04:09] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Oh, Ok, well you can get your docs off easily, then jsut start over, but there's a problem with 9.04 & 9.10 with both fstab and sudo-user auth files.
[04:09] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA ty!
[04:09] <rodolfo> my uncle told me to ask here
[04:09] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:09] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: the official channel for ubuntu is only for support for oficially released ubuntu from canonicals, not its spin offs
[04:09] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: actionparsnip: yes i understand.  I'll try and point rodolfo in the right support direction...
[04:09] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA good night and to all.
[04:09] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: hopefully nUboon2Age can steer you
[04:10] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, After researin and listeing to your feedback, I suspect your /etcsusoers file is missing or currut, which is the liekly reason for the issue if it's not the fstab.
[04:10] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: if you install the netbook edition which looks pretty much the same you will be supported here
[04:10] <A-Non> DasEi: the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't seem to do anything, is that normal?
[04:11] <KE1HA> A-Non, no that's not normal.
[04:11] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo service gdm restart (will LOG you OFF!),  the last two commands might be run after doing an sudo init 1, which will bring you to single user mode ( and also drops you off the desk,,     the cmd did, even with no feedback
[04:11] <rodolfo> ok
[04:11] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: it looks like its Karmic based (i'm guessing).  Here's the web site: http://www.jolicloud.com/support
[04:11] <Snake_Eater> E ai algum braisileiro aki
[04:11] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i'm looking over there for support resources...
[04:11] <Snake_Eater> ?
[04:11] <rww> ubottu: br | Snake_Eater
[04:11] <DasEi> !br | Snake_Eater
[04:11] <A-Non> DasEi: okay I'll need to load up IRC on the other machine before I do that
[04:12] <rodolfo> ok
[04:12] <DasEi> A-Non: IF YOU FEEL SAFER THAT WAY, SURE
[04:12] <DasEi> caps, ups
[04:13] <rublind> gentlemen (a bold assumption, I know). I'm seeking some assistance. Whenever I leave my eth0 to dhcp, I can't ssh to this machine. If I set it to a static IP it works. Does anyone have any idea of things I could try?
[04:13] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: I found they have an irc channel at #jolicloud .  Also
[04:13] <rublind> leave=set*
[04:14] <maco> rublind: a not-100%-correct one too!
[04:14] <rublind> o.O?
[04:14] <rodolfo> ok tnx
[04:14] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: more community resources listed at http://www.jolicloud.com/community
[04:14]  * maco swishes skirt 
[04:14] <rublind> also, my monitor cuts off the first few letters (I hate this thing), so I don't really know who to reply to. sorry. :x
[04:15] <rublind> __co: I took a risk. =p
[04:15] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo init 1, then dpkg from gui-choice (same as update/grade) then reconfigure from netroot or root, exit back to init 1 gui, resume boot, start gdm manually
[04:15] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i'm glad we checked and figured out what we're working with so you can get help from folks who are familar with Jolicloud, Robby edition.  We could have knocked that one around a long time without being able to make progress.
[04:16] <A-Non> DasEi: I'm going to switch IRC to the other machine, be right back
[04:16] <rodolfo> ok thanks
[04:16] <DasEi> y
[04:17] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: I've heard good things about Jolicloud so hopefully you'll be able to get your ipod working quickly.
[04:17] <rublind> second question: does anyone know how to make 2wire routers not suck?
[04:17] <FirstgearOne> which is faster kde or gnome?
[04:17] <Sedated> rublind, i suggest a large heavy hammer
[04:17] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[04:17] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, slap your uncle for me :D
[04:17] <rublind> agreed. but I don't think AT&T will appreciate that.
[04:17] <KE1HA> rublind, yeah, replace it with Cisco Routers :-)
[04:17] <A-Non> DasEi: I was running IRC on the machine I was trying to fix before, so this will be easier
[04:18] <rublind> do you know if the cisco routers are compatible with AT&T's garbage service?
[04:18] <mnaines> Does anyone know of a program for Linux that takes all your settings, custom themes, files and programs, and whatever else and turn it into an ISO so you can reinstall or move to another machine without losing any data?
[04:18] <KE1HA> rublind, yes.
[04:18] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo init 1, then dpkg from gui-choice (same as update/grade) then reconfigure from netroot or root, exit back to init 1 gui, resume boot, start gdm manually
[04:18] <rodolfo> yes XD tnx for your help
[04:18] <rublind> I need to look into this then... thank you. would you happen to know a model number by any chance?
[04:18] <actionparsnip> mnaines: backup the hidden files in $HOME, you can restore them later to restore settings
[04:19] <KE1HA> rublind, our main fibre channel was on an AT&T link, was pretty stable for acess.
[04:19] <KE1HA> rublind, Which Cisco Routers ?
[04:19] <rublind> the service isn't that bad (usually, it did go down for no reason once or twice), but I hate this 2wire thing they give me. makes me want to stab myself.
[04:20] <mnaines> actionparsnip, I mean like, when someone customizes Ubuntu to their liking then wants to get a new machine but does not want to have to reinstall everything to get their customizations back, is there something that can compile their custom Ubuntu setup into an ISO?
[04:20] <econdudeawesome> AAH! I meant to delete a partition and created a new partition table. It said that it will be implemented on reboot. Can I fix it?
[04:20] <A-Non> DasEi: Just did init 1 now
[04:20] <rublind> yeah, if you knew off the top of your head. would save me some googling, but no worries either way. :)
[04:20] <KE1HA> rublind, sri mate, but 2wire is garbage if you need real performace.
[04:20] <DasEi> A-Non: get a small gui.. > dpkg...
[04:20] <Sedated> rublind, the 2wire routers i have here in .au have an advanced management page you can get it by browsing to http://<ip>/mdc
[04:20] <KE1HA> rublind, one moment, need ot SSH to my Workstation.
[04:20] <A-Non> DasEi: I get an Ubuntu splash screen with the little dots
[04:20] <actionparsnip> mnaines: yep, that'll do it. You can burn them to a CD or USB stick etc for storage. Don't get tied up with ISO files
[04:20] <rodolfo> i have a problem with jolicloud IRC
[04:21] <rublind> II've tried the mdc things before, but still not the level of control I want...
[04:21] <DasEi> A-Non: might take a second
[04:21] <rodolfo> no one answers
[04:21] <A-Non> DasEi: I think it's frozen, the dots aren't moving anymore :(
[04:21] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: then ask in #freenode
[04:21] <tpad> should i buy an nvidia or ati gpu if i plan on running ubuntu?
[04:21] <econdudeawesome> So if I use gparted to create a new partition table for a currently mounted drive, is there any way to fix that???
[04:21] <DasEi> A-Non: give it a little. else ctrl-alt-delete, when grub is loading, press left shift
[04:22] <actionparsnip> tpad: nvidia
[04:22] <econdudeawesome> as in, restore the partition table of the drive, or will it be wiped on the next reboot?
[04:22] <tpad> should i buy an nvidia or ati gpu if i plan on running ubuntu?
[04:22] <rodolfo> ok thanks
[04:22] <tensorpudding> nvidia has good binary blob drivers
[04:22] <tpad> actionparsnip: would ati work? someone told me there isnt very good support for ati..
[04:22] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, is there any reason you can't run ubuntu?
[04:22] <tensorpudding> ati has a free driver, but i don't know what the state of it is
[04:22] <tpad> im looking at the ati radeon hd 5650
[04:22] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: very bad idea, and gparted wouldn't even allow on a mounted drive
[04:22] <KE1HA> rublind, border routers were 3800's
[04:23] <rublind> cool, thank you for checking. :)
[04:23] <actionparsnip> tpad: sure, you can check the ati site for compatible devices, nvidia have supported linux waaay longer than ati
[04:23] <econdudeawesome> DasEi now when I reopen gparted it doesn't bring up the drive
[04:23] <A-Non> DasEi: I rebooted tapping left shift pretty much constantly and it just got me to the GDM screen
[04:23] <DasEi> A-Non: got the grub menue ?
[04:24] <econdudeawesome> DasEi it was mounted into three partitions and I was trying to delete the middle one... and thought I needed a new partition table. What can I do??
[04:24] <tpad> actionparsnip: i know.. and i know ati has drivers.. im just wondering if anyone has experience with the stability of them.
[04:24] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, if you are using Grub2 then just hold shift down while booting to get the menu (don't tap)
[04:24] <KE1HA> rublind, local routers were 2600's with a few 7100 fer the main WAN stuff.
[04:24] <econdudeawesome> DasEi not mounted: divided. Two are currently mounteded
[04:24] <A-Non> DasEi: I don't think so, I saw no menus until GDM
[04:24] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: Alright I'll try holding it down then
[04:24] <actionparsnip> tpad: i only buy nvidia due to support, millions will agree, millions will disagree
[04:24] <rublind> cool, cool. time to go shopping I guess. =p
[04:24] <KE1HA> rublind, 2600's are Solid bargins, 3800's are over the top even for most small to medium companys.
[04:24] <maco> tpad: i last used ati 2 years ago and at the time i could get dual screen at high res on 32bit working fine, but on 64bit. i imagine progress has been made, particularly since they opened up all their specs
[04:25] <maco> tpad: er, but not on 64bit
[04:25] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: oo, you set a new partitable on a drive where you still would have needed the other two partis ?
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> tpad, if you want 3d on linux (or other open source OSs)  i would go nivida myself
[04:25] <rublind> 2600's it is then. :)
[04:25] <tpad> well damn.
[04:25] <tpad> see im looking at the envy 14.. and i cant get nvidia in it.
[04:25] <tpad> but i realllly want this laptop. :)
[04:25] <A-Non> DasEi: Okay now I've got "GNU GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu7" menu
[04:25] <DasEi> A-Non: it's lucid ?
[04:25] <rublind> okay, I need to go futz with my router/networking setup for a bit to figure this out. I'll be back later. Thanks for all the info. :)
[04:25] <A-Non> DasEi: Yeah, lucid
[04:25] <maco> tpad: can i sugget a couple companies that make linux laptops?
[04:25] <DasEi> fine > 2nd kernel, recovery-mode
[04:26] <DasEi> A-Non: ^
[04:26] <coz_> tpad,  which intel chipsets for video do they hav?
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> tpad, if your shopping for a laptop then nvidia usually costs about 2x as much :|  You get what you pay for though.
[04:26] <KE1HA> rublind, look for certified Used 2600's, with the fibre module options, lots of ggod deals around. We're way off-topic, so back to Ubuntu Support.
[04:26] <tensorpudding> if you're getting a laptop, go for intel
[04:26] <A-Non> Dasei: running recovery-mode...
[04:26] <tensorpudding> graphics, that is
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> tpad, i agree with tensorpudding intel over ati.
[04:26] <maco> tpad: http://zareason.com and http://system76.com  both make fully linux compatible laptops.  i have two laptops from za
[04:26] <tpad> tensorpudding: lol now thats incorrect.
[04:27] <econdudeawesome> DasEi yes, that was the plan. But I wasn't thinking and made a new partition table for the whole drive. The computer seems to be working find, but I got the following in the terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470510/
[04:27] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: so, what you need is another sys, and then use testdisk to recover it, that'll be a bit of a hassle then
[04:27] <tpad> nvidia may have better support.. but ati is def better than intel.
[04:27] <maco> tensorpudding: actually... intel has the best support of all
[04:27] <tensorpudding> Intel's free drivers work great.
[04:27] <maco> tensorpudding: fully open drivers, and yeah, it does work for 3d actually... its long been the easiest way to get 3d on linux
[04:27] <maco> tensorpudding: erk not you sorry
[04:27] <ZykoticK9> maco, if "best support" = "Open source" then yes ;)
[04:27] <econdudeawesome> DasEi that actually won't be a problem to boot up another system on the same rig, coincidentally enough. But can I do it before I shut the computer down with gpart?
[04:27] <maco> tpad: what i just said to tensorpudding was for you
[04:27] <tonsofpcs> so I just tried burning a cd with k3b, k3b hung with 0% and was successfully killed, wodim is still stuck running and the drive is spinning.  Any ideas?
[04:28] <tpad> they may work good. but i am also going for performance. i will be running windows 7 dual boot for gaming as well.
[04:28] <maco> ZykoticK9: thats what i meant yeah.
[04:28] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: wellwell, I told you gparted won't do, if anything is mounted there.. gparteed still open ?
[04:28] <tensorpudding> If you're going for gaming it's different.
[04:28] <DasEi> A-Non: dpgk....
[04:28] <maco> ZykoticK9: but like... out of the box, you have 3d. none of this fussing around with extra drivers then finding out it breaks on plymouth crap
[04:29] <tpad> tensorpudding: i am going for gaming as well.
[04:29] <econdudeawesome> DasEi not gparted, gpart
[04:29] <actionparsnip> maco: the plymouth thing is easy to workaround with fb driver but OOTB yes
[04:29] <A-Non> DasEi: the recovery-mode thing seems to hang at "Setting sensors limits, Skip stopping firewall: ufw (not enabled)"
[04:29] <econdudeawesome> DasEi I've closed it and opened it--same options are availabel taht were there immediately following my stupid stupid action
[04:29] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: hm , I don't what command you issued actually, so first a reboot and then see what really happened will be way to go then
[04:30] <KE1HA> tensorpudding, Browse the Ubuntu Certified Hardware lists for hardware before purchase, saved on allot of frustration.
[04:30] <DasEi> A-Non: hmm.. should run through to a simple gui
[04:30] <econdudeawesome> I was running gparted, and used the "create new partition table" on the drive...
[04:30] <DasEi> A-Non: try to ctrl-c, if it won't move on
[04:31] <A-Non> DasEi: This machine never does what it should D: ... Ctrl+C seems to have no effect
[04:31] <courtni> can anyone tell me( in the most undestandable nderstandable terms please) how to run/ get the "desktop-switcher"
[04:31] <VS-> arrrghhh, alternate cd works, thanks a lot :D
[04:31] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: which, if any of the partis was mounted, shouldn't be possible, again: gparted-gui or parted from terminal ?
[04:31] <econdudeawesome> DasEi gparted-gui
[04:32] <arrrghhh> VS-, np.
[04:32] <econdudeawesome> DasEi I invoke it from the terminal
[04:32] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: so you might be lucky, just reboot and check the disk again
[04:32] <econdudeawesome> DasEi fair enough I guess, I'll give it a shot. In the meantime I'm running gpart
[04:33] <A-Non> DasEi: I rebooted and tried again and now it's got the simple GUI
[04:33] <econdudeawesome> seems straightforward enough: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2210436
[04:33] <econdudeawesome> courtni what do you mean
[04:33] <DasEi> A-Non: fine, so dpkgrepair...
[04:33] <raghavendran> hi
[04:33] <econdudeawesome> courtni are you switching between desktop windows, desktop session managers (GNOME, KDE), or login windows, or what?
[04:33] <raghavendran> how to embed kernal in cc
[04:34] <A-Non> DasEi: What was the dpkgrepair command exactly?
[04:34] <KE1HA> raghavendran, in CC ??
[04:34] <raghavendran> ya
[04:35] <econdudeawesome> c0ourtni are you there?
[04:35] <raghavendran> can any one tell me
[04:35] <DasEi> A-Non: first we want to run the dpkg-choice from the small menue
[04:35] <raghavendran> to do a project
[04:35] <ZykoticK9> raghavendran, and what is cc?
[04:35] <KE1HA> raghavendran, I dont know what you mean by "cc"
[04:35] <A-Non> DasEi: Okay I did that, it finished
[04:35] <raghavendran> interested in foss
[04:35] <econdudeawesome> raghavendran ask your question in one line, be specific
[04:35] <raghavendran> k
[04:36] <DasEi> A-Non: I assume it had inet , and didn't just spill error contacting url ?!
[04:36] <rajesh> hi
[04:36] <raghavendran> foss projects
[04:36] <DasEi> ignoring..
[04:36] <A-Non> DasEi: It ran completely, no error contacting url :)
[04:36] <DasEi> A-Non: next choice root or netroot
[04:37] <courtni> econdudeawesome: on the latest version of ubuntu, the "desktop-switcher" was added back after being taken off in the previous version due to instabilaty, it is supposed to allow ubuntu netbook remix to look like the desktop versoin
[04:37] <A-Non> DasEi: Okay, I've got the terminal prompt now
[04:37] <DasEi> A-Non: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:37] <Flannel> raghavendran: Your question seems like it might be better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:37] <joren> hey, has anyone had experience with 10.04 booting sporadically? most of the time, there's just a blinking cursor, no grub or anything, but every once in a while it will boot
[04:37] <DasEi> A-Non: will do no output
[04:37] <DasEi> A-Non: service gdm stop
[04:37] <econdudeawesome> courtni I could never get that to work exactly right. I followed a script in the ubuntu forums to set up GNOME exactly like the Netbook Remix session
[04:37] <DasEi> A-Non: service gdm start
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> courtni, i'm under the impression that UNE is actually almost entirely locked down UI wise.  Best of luck.  (i don't think the switcher is an available feature - i could be wrong)
[04:38] <A-Non> DasEi: I'm not supposed to get any output from dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg right?
[04:38] <DasEi> y
[04:38] <tonsofpcs> is there a way to send an eof to an open stream? (I have wodim stuck waiting for data, spinning my cd drive -- 21:43:07  * tonsofpcs tries sfc
[04:38] <tonsofpcs> bah
[04:38] <econdudeawesome> courtni if you want to switch between desktop, you need to run with GNOME session instead of netboook remix or netbook remix 2d
[04:38] <tonsofpcs> is there a way to send an eof to an open stream? (I have wodim stuck waiting for data, spinning my cd drive -- usr/bin/wodim -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/sr0 speed=48 -dao driveropts=burnfree -eject -data -tsize=318784s - )
[04:38] <econdudeawesome> courtni you can do this at the log in window--when you click on your account the option the change sessions is at the bottom
[04:39] <econdudeawesome> courtni however, you could also use the GNOME session script and then just kill or reinvoke the programs you want to switch between--I think the primary one is called maximus
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> econdudeawesome, i don't believe that is an option in UNE, in Gnome yes.
[04:40] <econdudeawesome> ZykoticK9 spot on. That's wht I was saying
[04:40] <courtni> econdudeawesome: thnx a LOT!c: I can manage that.
[04:40] <A-Non> DasEi: service gdm start loaded GDM (obviously) so now I'm logged in, how do I make sure the missing file is there now?
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> econdudeawesome, sorry it was just the way you broke your statement up there, i wasn't sure ;)
[04:40] <DasEi> A-Non: cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/
[04:41] <DasEi> A-Non: ls libwf*
[04:41] <A-Non> DasEi: It's there :)
[04:41] <Mr_Sonoma> anyone know a way to set ubuntu to give a shell login option from the log in screen?
[04:42] <econdudeawesome> DasEi--I'm off! Wish me luck!
[04:42] <DasEi> A-Non: I assume it's an nvidia card then
[04:42] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: yupp
[04:42] <VS-> Only WEP is supported?
[04:42] <ZykoticK9> Mr_Sonoma, that would be an option to exit from GDM and drop to console mode, that option doesn't exist.  You can disable GDM if you want, but not as a selection in GDM.
[04:43] <A-Non> DasEi: Nvidia FX 5500
[04:43] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, you mean drop to a terminal v.s. starting X ?
[04:43] <DasEi> A-Non: ic, not the biggest, but enough for small compiz-effects
[04:44] <Izinucs> A-Non: DasEi you might have to use the newest binary driver that was just released that is compatible with X.org 1.8 ..
[04:44] <ZykoticK9> Mr_Sonoma, if you're actually interested in disabling GDM you can see the two methods i know of at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/notes/gdm
[04:44] <Mr_Sonoma> ZykoticK9, KE1HA yes, at the log in screen instead of logging into graphical have the option to go cli. hitting cntrl alt f1 just gives a blank screen unless i've already logged into the gui
[04:44] <A-Non> DasEi: It gets the job done, and it's PCI, my mobo only has PCI slots, no AGP or PCI-E :(
[04:44] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, Easiest way ot to log in normally, then do an Init-3
[04:44] <DasEi> A-Non: saw that ? and also you ran the nvidia-settings , nor ?
[04:45] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, doing the init-3 will do a quick re-boot without stating X.
[04:45] <A-Non> DasEi: I don't understand what you mean there
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> !runlevels > KE1HA
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, are you sure about that init3 thing?
[04:46] <Mr_Sonoma> !runlevels
[04:46] <KE1HA> I just got busted by Ubuttu :-) ... let me look at this a min :-)
[04:47] <Mr_Sonoma> blah, i had forgotten about the runlevels but that looks to have killed the idea i had forgotten about LOL
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> Mr_Sonoma, KE1HA to stop GDM you can use the command "sudo service gdm stop" and you should be left with only console modes.
[04:48] <A-Non> DasEi: Compiz still kills my title bars and window borders though :(
[04:48] <DasEi> A-Non: is it 32 or 64 ?
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, that mean compiz is failing!
[04:48] <c1rcuit> so
[04:48] <A-Non> DasEi: My system is 32bit
[04:48] <c1rcuit> i changed the name of my home directory
[04:48] <c1rcuit> and now its all failing
[04:49] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: How would I stop it from failling?
[04:49] <KE1HA> ZykoticK9, rr, yes, I know you can start / stop GDM, but I was certian I could do an INIT, but maybe Im crossing wires with another distro here.
[04:49] <c1rcuit> how do i reset it back to normal?
[04:49] <actionparsnip> c1rcuit: rename it back in root recovery mode
[04:49] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, i don't know what the problem is.
[04:49] <c1rcuit> so say in the /home directory
[04:49] <c1rcuit> there was /c1rcuit
[04:49] <c1rcuit> and i changed it to lets say
[04:49] <c1rcuit> matt
[04:49] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, pretty much ANY other distro probably ;)
[04:49] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: By that do you mean, you wouldn't be able to figure out the problem, or that I need to give you more information?
[04:50] <c1rcuit> id just have to change matt back to c1rcuit?
[04:50] <Izinucs> c1rcuit: change it back to c1rcuit
[04:50] <DasEi> A-Non: http://i8t.de/a9hg0ttb
[04:50] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, Ok, in the interest of speed here, start / stop GDM is the best options  at the moment.
[04:50] <c1rcuit> ok ill try
[04:50] <mr_4slk4> can i ask a question
[04:50] <Izinucs> !ask | mr_4slk4
[04:50] <DasEi> A-Non: latest driver, d/l it
[04:50] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, i have no idea what your issue is, but unless you are using nvidia i can't really be much help
[04:50] <Mr_Sonoma> ZykoticK9, thats a thought, and thanks for the link. let me think about how i wanna do this. I don't always want graphical i spend a lot of time on command line doing my stuff. Woulda been nice to have a way to add the option at the bottom of the log in screen where you can select recovery or what ever
[04:50] <mr_4slk4> i'm a newbie in irc
[04:50] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: I am using nvidia
[04:50] <mr_4slk4> what is script
[04:50] <A-Non> DasEi: Okay
[04:51] <Izinucs> DasEi: A-Non the right driver may be the 96.xx driver not the 195.xx
[04:51] <cntrational> when will you guys stop calling "ctrl" "cntrl"
[04:51] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, use whatever driver is "Recommended" in hardware drivers would be my recommendation.
[04:51] <Izinucs> cntrational: tomato - tomato :)
[04:51] <DasEi> Izinucs: I just see that, that's xorg 1.7
[04:51] <cntrational> Izinucs: hilights
[04:52] <A-Non> KykoticK9, Izinucs, DasEi, which driver then?? :P
[04:52] <Izinucs> DasEi: what's 10.04 running 1.7 or 1.8?  I think Maverick is 1.8
[04:52]  * Mr_Sonoma points out that it used to be cntrl on the old keyboards back in the day
[04:52] <cntrational> we aren't that old
[04:52] <Random832> Izinucs: back in what day?
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, you also might want to move your current xorg and let nvidia generate a new one.  Move with "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig" then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" to generate a new one.  Just a suggestion.
[04:52] <Izinucs> A-Non: looking
[04:52] <Random832> i'm pretty sure it went straight from "Control" to "Ctrl"
[04:53] <KE1HA> ZykoticK9, You are indeed correct, Run-Levels, 3 to 5 are the same for Debian system, 2 is a single level user mode, similar to WIndows safemode.: http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[04:53] <Mr_Sonoma> thanks fellas
[04:53] <abhijit> can i use yasm to program (virtual) 8086?
[04:53] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: I'll give that a go, see what happens
[04:53] <maco> KE1HA: youre wrong
[04:53] <cntrational> Random832: well it's cntrl if you remove only the vowels
[04:53] <maco> KE1HA: 2-5 are the same. 1 is single user
[04:53] <DasEi> Izinucs: Version: 1:7.5+5ubuntu1, so not as 1.8 as said above, for lucid
[04:53] <Random832> which isn't really the answer to the question
[04:53] <maco> KE1HA: the default runlevel in ubuntu (and i think debian as well) is 2
[04:53] <KE1HA> maco, was quoting from Debian Admin, so if it's wrong, I too and mistaken.
[04:54] <Random832> actually. the XT had "Ctrl", the VT100 had "Ctrl"
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, i'd trust maco if i where you ;)
[04:54] <Datz> Hi, could someone guide me to a page that explains requirements for repo packages, and how to submit such things.
[04:54] <maco> KE1HA: check it out. type "runlevel" in a shell. you should be on 2
[04:54] <Random832> it's pretty well established, from pretty early on - i know some old mac keyboards had "control"
[04:54] <actionparsnip> abhijit: sure, its opensource
[04:54] <DasEi> A-Non: which driver is currently shown under recommended ( as in Version), same ?
[04:54] <Izinucs> DasEi: A-Non this is what I found http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_173.14.25.html
[04:54] <abhijit> actionparsnip, ok
[04:54] <rww> Entertainingly, the top of that debianadmin.com article is wrong and the text is right.
[04:55] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: Compiz still fails to load
[04:55] <KE1HA> maco, not disputing it, jsut wanted to read about it, is this doc incorrect then? : http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[04:55] <DasEi> Izinucs: same here
[04:55] <A-Non> DasEi: Version 173 is recommended,96 is also supported
[04:55] <rww> oh wait no, it's all right and KE1HA just can't read
[04:55] <Izinucs> DasEi: and 10.04 is 1.7?
[04:55] <DasEi> Izinucs: as apt says, yes
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, run from terminal "compiz --replace" and see if you get any noticeable error
[04:55] <KE1HA> Excuse me, yeah, my comprehension level isn't to high these days.
[04:56] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: No error, just a lack of title bars and window borders :(
[04:56] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell KE1HA about runlevels
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, do you have fusion-icon installed?
[04:56] <Izinucs> DasEi: don't forget that the stock nvidia drivers that come with ubuntu have to be uninstalled prior to installing the binary..
[04:56] <Izinucs> DasEi: also the headers need installing
[04:56] <abhijit> anyone yasm user here?
[04:56] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: Yes I do
[04:57] <actionparsnip> !ppa | abhijit
[04:57] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, try the reload wm option in there
[04:57] <DasEi> A-Non: down ?
[04:57] <actionparsnip> abhijit: may have a ppa for you, otherwise you will be sniffing for a deb, failing that you wil be compiling
[04:57] <abhijit> actionparsnip, i installed it. but i need someone to talk about how to use it. becuase i have only experience with tasm on xp.
[04:57] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: It reloads with the same error
[04:57] <abhijit> actionparsnip, yasm is there in repo
[04:57] <actionparsnip> abhijit: read the man page
[04:57] <A-Non> DasEi: I'll give it a download
[04:57] <actionparsnip> !info yasm
[04:57] <abhijit> actionparsnip, reading
[04:58] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, what error?  or do you just mean the missing titlebars.
[04:58] <Datz> Hi, could someone guide me to a page that explains requirements for repo packages, and how to submit something to the repo.
[04:58] <DasEi> A-Non: say when ready
[04:58] <actionparsnip> abhijit: glad its in the repo for you :)
[04:58] <abhijit> actionparsnip, :)
[04:58] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: I meant the missing title bars sorry :P
[04:58] <DasEi> A-Non: can open another window and issue:
[04:58] <DasEi> !headers
[04:58] <rww> ubottu: packaging | Datz
[04:58] <Datz> thx
[04:59] <DasEi> A-Non:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[04:59] <Datz> !backports
[04:59] <Izinucs> sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[04:59] <A-Non> DasEi: I'm doing that command now while the drivers download
[04:59] <Datz> ubottu = quick
[04:59] <j_ayen_green> running lucid. all of a sudden gedit won't let me save anything...says 'the text file is busy'
[04:59] <BentFrank> New 10.4 installation.  Manual internet setup.  Edited /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf.  Now what?  What goes in /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, what driver does Hardware Drivers show as in use?  does nvidia-settings work properly?
[04:59] <A-Non> DasEi: Apparently I had that already
[05:00] <Datz> !packaging
[05:00] <DasEi> lzinucs: or just by by jockey
[05:00] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: Nvidia-settings works correctly, version 173 is in use
[05:00] <KwikkSilva> could anyone help me with a bridging problem
[05:00] <KwikkSilva> between my wireless and wired network
[05:00] <Izinucs> DasEi: I'm not even sure what jockey is.. :/
[05:01] <devel> hello peeps
[05:01] <Izinucs> KwikkSilva: you trying to use your machine to provide internet to others?
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, is your system up-to-date?  have you rebooted (in event of kernel updates)?  other then that i'm affriad, i have no idea man.  Good luck man.
[05:01] <Izinucs> !ics | KwikkSilva
[05:01] <KwikkSilva> Izinucs, thats right - i did manage to get that oart working
[05:01] <KwikkSilva> but the "others" are now not pingable
[05:02] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: I'm pretty sure I'm updated, I just rebooted a few minutes ago too
[05:02] <DasEi> lzinucs: jockey-gtk is the gui for hardwaredrivers
[05:02] <Izinucs> KwikkSilva: the link ubottu provided might help
[05:02] <Izinucs> DasEi: but does removing that eliminate the other nvidia bits provided by ubuntu?
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> KwikkSilva, you might want to see this as well (it for 9.10 but most should still apply) http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-easily-share-your-wireless-connection-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[05:03] <KwikkSilva> Yes - actually have been thru that part - but i' mleft with a lingering problem that the server which now has access to the network is inacessible
[05:03] <DasEi> lzinucs: takes them out of x, just the drivers being still on won't harm , got to restart x (which goes by cmdline for the binary itself)
[05:03] <Izinucs> DasEi: I've had a horrible time installing the binary on 10.04 but from 6.06 through 9.1 it was pretty simple.. maybe something to do with the new opensource driver being the default.
[05:03] <KwikkSilva> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1535015
[05:04] <KwikkSilva> When i bridged the server it got a different IP address, like 10.42.43.10
[05:04] <KwikkSilva> and my netowkr is 192.168.1.0
[05:04] <bthornton> Hey, just did an 'apt-get update' on my Lucid install (which I do regularly) and noticed that version number changed (10.04 --> 10.04.1). Just curious: what specific update constitutes the .1 version change?
[05:04] <Izinucs> DasEi: by the way.. You're not highlighting me with my nick.. it's izinucs not lzinucs :)
[05:04] <bthornton> don't think I've ever seen that happen before
[05:05] <DasEi> Izinucs: aharr :) was about to plaster my tab, hehe
[05:05] <Izinucs> DasEi: it's actually my normal nick backwards.. different machine .. different nick
[05:07] <ZykoticK9> What's up with the version number? "lsb_release -d" in terminal is showing "Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS" currently.  But according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule 10.04.1 is suppose to be released on August 12th? bthornton
[05:08] <DanaG> Hmm, I tried using gnome-appearance-properties on an HD 5570 with 3 heads, and it only showed 2 monitors.  xrandr shows all 3.
[05:08] <FreshPrince> why is ubuntu 64-bit Not recommended for daily desktop usage ?
[05:08] <mikeru> Zykotick9: It's LYING
[05:08] <DanaG> This is with open-source driver.
[05:09] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, i agree with this "bug" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940
[05:10] <Adman65> what do i need to install to have a postgres client only?
[05:11] <A-Non> DasEi: Sorry my connection is terrible, drivers finished
[05:11] <DasEi> Izinucs: I just wonder about if the 185 would also support an fx 5500
[05:11] <mikeru> heyaaa
[05:11] <mikeru> anyone know a cpuz for linbux?
[05:11] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo apt-get install pastebintit
[05:12] <abhijit> Adman65, sudo apt-get install pgadmin3
[05:12] <DasEi> mikeru: benchmark/stresstest ?
[05:12] <abhijit> bye
[05:12] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo apt-get install pastebinit           **
[05:13] <mikeru> DasEi: wut?
[05:13] <Adman65> cool ty
[05:13] <DasEi> A-Non: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[05:13] <KwikkSilva> So - i bridged my Solaris Server onto the Internet using my Dell Server, but the Solaris server got an ip of 10.42.43.10 via DHCP from the Dell Server (i think), whilst the rest of the network is on 192.168.1.0
[05:13] <A-Non> DasEi: Yeah I figured there was a typo there, it's installed now
[05:13] <mikeru> I'm just trying to get info about two computers
[05:13] <mikeru> SysInfo is not that helpful though
[05:13] <KwikkSilva> So now no one else can ping the Solaris server - which is 'behind' the Dell, on anogther network
[05:13] <A-Non> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/0ncgMxAL
[05:14] <KwikkSilva> I'm trying to find out can i make the Saolaris server accessible somehow
[05:14] <DasEi> mikeru: I know cpuz, but that info will be collected from different corners, as a stresstest there is cpubutn (no parameters there, though)
[05:14] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, so what u think? should i get the 64-bit iso or not?, thats a joke, why it wouldn't be a good idea to use 64-bit for daily usage?
[05:14] <DasEi> mikeru: ah, try gnome-device-manager
[05:15] <DasEi> A-Non: and your current hardwaredrivers also sho same version as the download being in use ?
[05:15] <mikeru> DasEi: what I want to know is about motherboard memory - e.g. CPU-Z tells me its DDR 512MB Single channel frequency etc, while stupid SysInfo tells me Total: 1001 Swap total and thats all
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, i use 64bit for my desktop.  i don't use 64bit on my htpc though, there are some emulators that are still 32bit only.  basically it's possible to use 64bit as well, or better then 32bit BUT it's more difficult to setup, thus "not recommended" or so the argument goes.
[05:15] <A-Non> DasEi: I think so yeah.
[05:16] <maco> FreshPrince: it says that mostly just to warn off people who dont know what 64bit is, because you can install 32bit on a 32 or 64 bit computer but not vice versa
[05:16] <DasEi> mikeru: free
[05:16] <maco> FreshPrince: other than that... proprietary software can be slightly more annoying on 64bit, but theres 64bit java now, and skype and flash both work, so...
[05:17] <mikeru> DasEi: I don't want to know how much memory I have. I want to know which type of memory it is.
[05:17] <mikeru> WHICH TYPE
[05:17] <maco> FreshPrince: ive used 64bit as my daily for 2 years now
[05:17] <mikeru> not how much I have
[05:17] <DasEi> mikeru: and under /proc you can find detailed infos
[05:17] <mikeru> ah!
[05:17] <FloodBot3> mikeru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:17] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, for 32bit libraries on 64bit Ubuntu check out the script getlibs it almost essential for 32bit compatibility
[05:17] <DanaG> hmm, anyone know how to get gnome's display-properties thing to acknowledge the presence of 3 monitors (instead of just two)?
[05:17] <mikeru> DasEi: that's exactly what I wanted to know. but is there not any tool for it?
[05:17] <DasEi> mikeru : also hwinfo --vv
[05:17] <mikeru> I mean, raw proc is ugly
[05:18] <DasEi> mikeru: as said, different corners
[05:18] <mikeru> DasEi: I think hwinfo will be enough. thanks
[05:19] <DanaG> This is on a card that CAN do 3 monitors.
[05:19] <mikeru> DasEi: nevermind, hwinfo will not help.
[05:20] <FreshPrince> maco, ZykoticK9 , well i think, if u have a 64-bit computer, then u should use ubuntu 64-bit and not the 32-bit
[05:20] <FreshPrince> a bit flash problems etc thats solved
[05:20] <FreshPrince> so why not to use it :>
[05:20] <DanaG> Flash is not solved for me!
[05:20] <DanaG> I can't click on anything in Flash.  Adobe fail.
[05:20] <FreshPrince> not for u
[05:20] <FreshPrince> but for most other users in here
[05:20] <FreshPrince> :D
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, i agree - but honestly, if you have less then 4G of memory you're probably best not to bother (unless you're planning on upgrading later ;)
[05:21] <DanaG> 64-bit does make some number-crunching faster, even given 2 gigs -- more registers to use.
[05:21] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, i have only 1gb memory, and i think i'm not going to upgrade for the next 5 years :D
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> DanaG, you can see if this applies/helps http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/clicking-in-flash-not-working  good luck
[05:21] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, so, i should use 32-bit if i have less than 4gb?
[05:21] <zfxp> How do i edit my motd file without going back to default?
[05:21] <DanaG>  Bad Request Error 400
[05:21] <Stupendoussteve> I would not use 64 bit with 1gb, 64 bit apps tend to use more memory
[05:22] <FreshPrince> Stupendoussteve, thats true
[05:22] <A-Non> DasEi: Did you look at that pastebin link?
[05:22] <FreshPrince> hm ok
[05:22] <FreshPrince> then i'm gonna dowenload the 32-bit
[05:22] <FreshPrince> *download
[05:22] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, it might speed up a couple of things (like encoding) but it's probably not worth the extra effort with only 1GB, 64bit requires more memory to run the same app as 32bit does!
[05:22] <DanaG> ah yeah, forgot that bit.
[05:22] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, ok
[05:23] <DanaG> The only "more memory" would come from pointers being 64-bit instead of 32-bit.
[05:23] <FreshPrince> the reason why i'm back to ubuntu is because i dont want to configure my whole system always on other distros :>
[05:23] <DanaG> The lack of 64-bit Firefox stuff is the bigger issue.
[05:23] <DasEi> A-Non: the xorg ? I did
[05:23] <FreshPrince> i think ubuntu should be "just working"
[05:23] <FreshPrince> without any problems
[05:23] <A-Non> DasEi: Okay, I didn't notice you say anything past that so I was just making sure it didn't get lost in the channel or something
[05:23] <Guest82193> i want go to ubuntu-tw
[05:23] <mssever> #jquery
[05:24] <Mr_Sonoma> Guest82193, /join #ubuntu-tw
[05:24] <Guest82193> thank you
[05:24] <Mr_Sonoma> np
[05:25] <dberg> I'm trying to change sessions but the screen goes blank. It's probably related to nvidia drivers. I had to add an edid file in xorg.conf for it work properly. any tips?
[05:25] <DasEi> A-Non: sry, was digging launchpad for 185 or higher in view of fx 5500, no, just newer gforces there
[05:26] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, the "just working" factor or Ubuntu is what brought ME from 5+ years of Gentoo.  Never been happier</ot>
[05:26] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, did you get what you were looing for earlier? maco was correct abotu the runlevels on UB/DEB.
[05:26] <A-Non> DasEi: So driver 173 is as high as it goes for the FX 5500 then?
[05:27] <maco> FreshPrince: ive found memory consumption on 64bit to be quite a bit higher than on 32bit. it sorta forced me to upgrade from 2gb to 4
[05:27] <DasEi> A-Non: as far as I can see yes, next in apt is 185, that' wont do no  more
[05:27] <Mr_Sonoma> KE1HA, yes. sorta. i've got your work around and that'll work and that'll work for me. but it wasn't really what i was hoping for kinda thing.
[05:27] <A-Non> DasEi: Well if the drivers can't be helped, any other ideas why compiz won't load?
[05:27] <DasEi> A-Non: so as the 173 seems to be installed and other binary arethere , too, do : ctar-altF1
[05:28] <DasEi> A-Non: so as the 173 seems to be installed and other binary arethere , too, do : ctrl-alt-F1
[05:28] <jguzikowski_> how does one change your screen resolution in ubuntu?
[05:28] <ZykoticK9> FYI the update in Lucid to 10.04.1 is real, and not as suggested a lie.  The release was moved up.
[05:28] <mikeru> DasEi: lshw-gtk is the answer. and it's in the repos (and apparently the cli version is installed by default)
[05:28] <A-Non> DasEi: Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't seem to do anything
[05:28] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, understand, Im not used to that either, but it is what it is I suppose.
[05:28] <DasEi> A-Non: should bring you out of x
[05:29] <mikeru> A-Non: black screen? or stays the same?
[05:29] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo nvidia-settings (for the first run)
[05:29] <A-Non> mikeru: stays exactly the same
[05:29] <jguzikowski_> can anyone just tell me how to change your resolution in gnome?
[05:29] <DasEi> mikeru : lspci is most common, nice gui, too
[05:29] <A-Non> DasEi: I'm in nvidia settings
[05:29] <ZykoticK9> jguzikowski, System / Preferences / Monitors
[05:29] <Mr_Sonoma> KE1HA, yea maybe we should make a suggestion that they give that option on the log on screen. seems like it used to be there (atleast on kde) or am i wrong about that?
[05:30] <jguzikowski_> ZykoticK9, thank you
[05:30] <mikeru> DasEi: iknow, but as I said, I need to know which type of RAM. not which devices are there
[05:30] <mikeru> Type of RAM
[05:30] <DasEi> A-Non: check settings, see if monitor is correctely found, save to xorg
[05:30] <A-Non> DasEi: My driver version is 173.14.22, and the downloaded is 173.14.25m I guess the download IS newer, at least by a bit
[05:30] <BentFrank> Does gateway 192.168.1.1. go in /etc/network/interfaces under eth0?
[05:30] <mikeru> COLORS I HAZ DEM
[05:30] <A-Non> DasEi: Monitor is correctly found
[05:30] <DasEi> A-Non: hm, want to install ? np..
[05:31] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, i'm also an ex gentoo user, i just want a distro that just works, without to configure things all the time like u said -> gentoo -.- thats because ubuntu is great!
[05:31] <ispot> how to redirect the tty to console , on boot time?
[05:31] <A-Non> DasEi: How do I install it?
[05:31] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, not sure. I dont do allot of desktop work, most of my installs are without X, so I use the basics on desktops, and that's about it.
[05:31] <mikeru> ehyyyy
[05:31] <mikeru> hey
[05:31] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, ubuntu runs i386? would that run slower then my archlinux which is i686?
[05:32] <mikeru> is DIMM SDRAM the same as DDR?
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, the i386 is a lie!  it's i686 really.
[05:32] <IdleOne> mikeru: ##hardware
[05:32] <tensorpudding> not necessarily
[05:32] <tensorpudding> ^ mikeru
[05:32] <mikeru> tensorpudding: ohshi
[05:32] <mikeru> then
[05:32] <Mr_Sonoma> KE1HA, i've got a few that have no x but this want was for my home desktop and there i use the GUI 50% of the time. I'm gonna keep googling i can't be the only one that wants that option at log in
[05:32] <DasEi> a-non: I'm getting tired  (it's 6.30 am here), go back to hardwaredrivers, disable current one(s), back to this cmd-line, stop gdm, then on the d/l : sudo sh nvidiaBlah.run
[05:32] <BentFrank> Does "gateway 192.168.1.1" go in /etc/network/interfaces under eth0 (typically for home net)?
[05:32] <mikeru> I think it is DDR
[05:32] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, a lie? i'm downlaoding ubuntu.10.04-i386.iso :p
[05:33] <mikeru> but it only says DIMM SDRAM
[05:33] <tensorpudding> mikeru: count the notches
[05:33] <ispot> hello, who knows how to redirect the tty to console , on boot time?
[05:33] <mikeru> Synchronous
[05:33] <tensorpudding> mikeru: if it has two notches, it is regular SDRAM
[05:33] <Drewseph> Hello. Don't know if anyone in here would be able to help me with this one or not as its to do with XAMPP, but maybe someone knows xD. As stated, I am running XAMPP to host a web server off my Ubuntu box. Everything is running great, except for the fact that no matter what I do, port 80 cannot seem to be accessed. Forwarded, listen is set to 80, ISP does not block it. Anyone know anything about that? Sorry if I shouldn't of asked that her
[05:33] <A-Non> DasEi: That is pretty late/early... I'll run that
[05:33] <FreshPrince> maco, i have 1gb memory about 8 years now on my machine.. and i think i'm not going to upgrade for the next 5 years :D
[05:33] <DasEi> a-non: then again nvidia-settings as root, then start gdm again
[05:33] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, Would ne a nice feature fer sure.
[05:33] <mikeru> tensorpudding: I'm noobish noobish in that stuff. what are the notches :P ?
[05:33] <mikeru> ah
[05:33] <FreshPrince> maco, to lazy :p
[05:33] <maco> FreshPrince: yeah i dont think you want the bigger pointers that 64bit involves then
[05:33] <mikeru> tensorpudding: you mean, the separations?
[05:34] <FreshPrince> maco, nope :>
[05:34] <tensorpudding> mikeru: in the interface where the pins are, there should be some separations, yeah
[05:34] <mikeru> tensorpudding: Oh. and DDR is how many notches?
[05:34] <IdleOne> mikeru: How is different types of RAM Ubuntu related?
[05:35] <Guest82193> Mr_Sonoma,I am not np
[05:35] <mikeru> IdleOne: well, I'm trying to change two computers RAM for moar ram in ubuntu
[05:35] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, check your "uname -a" did u see i686 there?
[05:36] <DasEi> mikeru: more #hardware , ddr is one , sd-ram has two nothes
[05:36] <IdleOne> mikeru: still has nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[05:36] <DasEi> ches*
[05:36] <Sedated> mikeru, ddr is 1 notch, sdram is 2 notches
[05:36] <mikeru> w.e.
[05:36] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, no because i'm running 64 so i see x86_64
[05:36] <mikeru> @Sedated @DasEi @tensorpudding thank you.
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, pretty sure it will show up as x86 which will actually be i686, i386 is totally outdated at this point!
[05:37] <mikeru> @IdleOne: oh, but I'm asking how to know by software and apparently there's no way, at least in ubuntu
[05:37] <mikeru> so
[05:38] <ZykoticK9> mikeru, FYI i've tried to find the type of memory info previously... and failed.  I was hoping someone was going to have an answer for ya.
[05:38] <mikeru> IdleOne: scroll back up, and see that I was trying to see which type of RAM it was from ubuntu
[05:39] <maco> mikeru: sudo lshw -c memory
[05:39] <maco> mikeru: thats not enough detail?
[05:39] <mikeru> hmm... lshw-gtk does say SODIMM DDR2for my mac
[05:39] <mikeru> maco: it says DIMM SDRAM, which apparently is not DDr
[05:40] <DasEi> mikeru: so you got it then, ask on in #hardware
[05:40] <ZykoticK9> maco, you da man!  (yes i see the irony ;)
[05:40] <maco> mikeru: mine gets as specific as:  description: SODIMM DDR2 Synchronous 667 MHz (1.5 ns)
[05:40] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, ok :), u know i like my current distro, but its terrible if nothing works correctly and u have to manually config all the things, and i didnt have the time to do that
[05:40] <mib_mib> hi can someone help me debug a cron job problem? I have a current job that i am just testing, added line * *  * * * /usr/bin/ruby /path/to/myjob.rb -- but it doens't seem to run, what am i doing wrong?
[05:40] <mikeru> maco:          description: SODIMM DDR2 Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
[05:41] <mikeru> but that's my mac, the PC (quite ironically considering support for macs) says not much.
[05:41] <maco> macs arent pcs? news to me
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, sorry man chatting about this is really offtopic for this channel.  but i certainly agree with your statment.
[05:41] <john38> can you hook up SATA and SATA 3.0gb/s to SATA 6gb/s
[05:42] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, life is to short to compile hours (gentoo) that because i left gentoo and went to archlinux
[05:42] <FreshPrince> :>
[05:42] <tensorpudding> PC is an obnoxious term that no longer has any meaning except "a computer which Windows runs on"
[05:42] <FreshPrince> yes offtopic
[05:42] <FreshPrince> sry
[05:42] <john38> its backward compatible isnt it
[05:42] <mikeru> maco: OH I'm so sorry to use wrong terminology. Shame on me. I meant Macs are abnormal PCs that do not use BIOS
[05:42] <DanaG> A mac IS a PC made by Apple.
[05:42] <DanaG> EFI is a type of BIOS, actually -- at least that's my impression.
[05:43] <DanaG> My EliteBook has UEFI support, though it's broken -- so I have to boot with the "CSM" (Compatibility something-or-other) in old-fashioned BIOS mode.
[05:43] <maco> tensorpudding: more general than that. a computer thats .. basically not a mainframe, dedicated server, or embedded
[05:43] <SubCool> Ok- here is a question. If i were to install VNC, how would i install it so that the services are running before login- or is that not possible, and id have to setup the box to auto log in
[05:43] <john38> can you hook up SATA and SATA 3.0gb/s to SATA 6gb/s
[05:43] <john38> its backward compatible isnt it
[05:43] <tensorpudding> EFI is not a type of BIOS in the same way that a motorcycle is not a type of bicycle
[05:44] <mikeru> sorry, lemme change again words. I meant PCs made by Apple have weird issues that other brands of PCs seem not to exhibit
[05:44] <mikeru> happieh?
[05:44] <maco> mikeru: apples are oddly popular among linux folks, so they tend to have pretty darned good linux support
[05:44] <crk> durp
[05:44] <maco> (buy hardware from the most proprietary company, then put a free os on it....O_o)
[05:45] <tensorpudding> Now that they use Intel processors they're easy to support
[05:45] <mikeru> maco: some do, yet some have horrid. I had to literally compile my own grub-efi to get mine to work
[05:45] <crk> apple=expensive for no good reason
[05:45] <john38> <<waiting for Imacs with six-core
[05:45] <DanaG> Good luck on that.
[05:45] <DanaG> You're better off going with other brands.
[05:46] <mikeru> maco: and EFI is not well supported AFAIK. since mine won't run in BIOS mode, I have to use EFI boot.
[05:46] <DanaG> tensorpudding: that's a good analogy, that motorcycle one.
[05:46] <john38> can you hook up SATA and SATA 3.0gb/s to SATA 6gb/s
[05:46] <john38> its backward compatible isnt it
[05:46] <DanaG> UEFI support is a goal for Maverick.
[05:46] <mikeru> I'd love that
[05:46] <maco> mikeru: i think grub2 is supposed to work with efi, and refit is the usual thing for making stuff go, but last week i watched someone install ubuntu on his macbook without using refit first, just a normal ubuntu livecd install. uncertain as to whether dual boots can be done this way though
[05:47] <ZykoticK9> john38, try asking in ##hardware for a more decisive answer, but i "believe" SATA is forward/backwards compatible (but not the speeds obviously).
[05:47] <mikeru> particularly, I dislike that after starting X all ttys are toast
[05:48] <john38> ZykoticK9, ok
[05:48] <john38> cant join hardware
[05:48] <ZykoticK9> !register | john38
[05:48] <DanaG> Yeah, should be compatible on SATA.
[05:48] <mikeru> maco: the normal procedure for macs is refit with normal ubuntu install. refit will show grub2 in MBR to boot ubuntu.
[05:48] <greezmunkey> !register > greezmunkey
[05:49] <maco> mikeru: refit wasnt needed for this person though.  he didnt dual boot though, did a full-disk install for ubuntu. so maybe its only needed for dual boots? this was with 10.04
[05:49] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, if you want to send yourself a bot message you can use "/msg ubottu WHATYOURLOOKINGFOR" and it won't show up in the channel ;)
[05:49] <mikeru> however, this macbook in specific (5,2) has a weird bug that will not let it boot that way, unless you disable a core or ACPI, or boot from grub-efi (which is another binary not in the mbr)
[05:49] <mikeru> maco: that's why. refit is for ease of dual booting
[05:49] <greezmunkey> sorry about that, my bad.
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, no reason to be sorry.  i was just sharing a tip.
[05:50] <picard1421> anybody have a good guide for setting up openVPN that changes RSA keyts every 20 mins.. if im using a service do they set that up the changing keys???
[05:50] <mib_mib> how do i enable the cron logs in ubuntu?
[05:50] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9: it's all good! Thank you.
[05:50] <picard1421> basically i want to use the VPN to connect to a service.. what do i need to setup on my end.. and also how can i make it so that the computer will not connect to the internet unless its on the VPN?
[05:50] <picard1421> (of course make all data also tunnel through taht place too?
[05:51] <mikeru> maco: I'm telling you, however, this mac can't use the grub included with ubuntu (grub-pc) because it runs in BIOS mode. it needs grub-efi which (obviously) runs in EFI mode.
[05:51] <thefinn931> help! I can't burn an ISO. There just *isn't an option* to do it. Everywhere i look it says to right click and pick write to disk or something but there is no such option. what should i do?
[05:52] <mikeru> stupid me typed shitdown on a terminal :P
[05:52] <maco> mikeru: okie doo
[05:52] <mikeru> hey, what's the difference between halt and poweroff?
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> thefinn931, applications / sound & video / Brasero - does it have an option to burn ISOs?  (i don't currently have it installed to check)
[05:53] <dberg> when I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 the screen is blank. How can I start it with the option "nomodeset"?
[05:53] <thefinn931> it's not there. Maybe i should install it?
[05:53] <thefinn931> @ZykoticK9
[05:53] <joren> mikeru, looks like no difference to me.. judging by the --help
[05:53]  * joren didn't know there was such a thing as poweroff
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> thefinn931, what ubuntu version ubuntu/kubuntu/etc are you using?
[05:54] <thefinn931> Ubuntu 10.04
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> thefinn931, personally i use k3b (which requires ALL the KDE libraries) for burning, but gnome-burner or something, is a popular Gnome based burner.
[05:55] <thefinn931> thanks ZykoticK9
[05:55] <IdleOne> gnomebaker
[05:55] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, thanks
[05:55] <thefinn931> alright
[05:55] <mikeru> joren: and it's one of those weird commands that are symlinks - both point to reboot
[05:55] <thefinn931> i'll try those
[05:55] <[thor]> brasero should come with the stock 10.04
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> thefinn931, i would recommend against k3b, unless you understand that installing kde libs is a lot do download/update all the time ;)
[05:56] <thefinn931> yeah i'm not gonna do that
[05:56] <mikeru> but pidof is the weirdest. pidof is a symlink to killall5. if it detects it was invoked as pidof it tells the pid by its process name, yet if invoked as killall5 it kills all programs and logs you out
[05:56] <[thor]> thefinn931:  try popping in a blank DVD/CD
[05:56] <manolo> como escuchar Radio en UBUNTU
[05:56] <thefinn931> [thor] doing so now...
[05:57] <joren> mikeru, nope, they are all different binaries, which is the really weird thing
[05:57] <thefinn931> @[thor]: this came up
[05:57] <thefinn931> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3267301/Screenshot-Blank%20CD-R%20Disc.png
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> thefinn931, OR try typing "brasero" in terminal or alt+f2, it has an ISO burn option.
[05:57] <homunculus> Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help me with my issue: I have a DLink PCI wireless adapter (the result of 'lspci' returns: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54mbps Wireless Adapter) As you can see, it is listed and recognized, but in my network options/ network manager there is no wireless interface to be seen, just my loopback and eth0. I am running 10.04, fresh install; I have browsed the forums, but a good portion of what the t
[05:57] <homunculus> hreads are asking me to do is a little over my head right now. Does anyone know how to get this card to work?
[05:57] <mikeru> joren: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2010-05-21 21:35 /bin/pidof -> /sbin/killall5*
[05:58] <joren> mikeru, at least as far as poweroff, halt, reboot goes
[05:58] <mikeru> joren: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2010-05-21 21:35 /sbin/poweroff -> reboot*
[05:58] <mikeru> joren: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2010-05-21 21:35 /sbin/halt -> reboot*
[05:58] <picard1421> can anyone help?
[05:58] <[thor]> thefinn931: does that dropdown include "Burn with Brasero" ?
[05:58] <thefinn931> no
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> homunculus, you have tried right clicking on the network icon and seeing if "enable wireless" changes anything.
[05:58] <thefinn931> i dont think so. i just closed it but im checking again
[05:59] <Crowhunter> how do I register my nick
[05:59] <joren> mikeru oh heh, ya, sorry. I'm talking out of my ass.. I just saw them each with a different man page, and different heading on the --help. really strange indeed
[05:59] <homunculus> ZykoticK9 yes, i've tried clicking and perusing everything network-related. I have even downloaded additional wireless utilites to see if they recognized it, and they do not.
[05:59] <ZykoticK9> !register | Crowhunter
[06:00] <ZykoticK9> homunculus, ok, i have nothing.  i was just checking the obvious, sorry you're having a tough time.
[06:00] <mikeru> AGH. I hate it. everyone's computer is acceptable: it has 1GB DDR2, Nvidia 9400GT 512MB - but stupid celeron 32bits 1.50Ghz
[06:00] <homunculus> heh, no worries, thanks for trying anyways :)
[06:01] <mikeru> this other computer: DDR1 512MB, Intel GMA, but Pentium D 64-bit 2-cores 2.66Ghz
[06:01] <mikeru> what shall I do?
[06:01] <picard1421> is there a way to lock a computer in ubuntu unless you "swipe" a magnetic strip card or biometric reader
[06:01] <[thor]> mikeru: MAME console :D
[06:01] <maco> mikeru: upgrade the latter's ram and be happy to have graphics with very good open drivers?
[06:02] <picard1421> ??
[06:02] <SubCool> did anyone answer me?
[06:02] <maco> picard1421: and disable password? not sure. you can definitely use a fingerprint reader with the screen lock though
[06:02] <mikeru> [thor] / maco: cannut. I have to give one to my grandma xd
[06:02] <mikeru> SubCool: what did you ask?
[06:02] <picard1421> maco: im talking without GNome
[06:02] <picard1421> ...
[06:02] <maco> picard1421: yes...?
[06:03] <maco> picard1421: the screenlock on gnome screensaver can use a fingerprint reader. ive seen it done
[06:03] <picard1421> mac: with no "GUI" its just like the server edition but before it says password.. please put on finger.. or swipe card
[06:03] <SubCool> Ok- here is a question. If i were to install VNC, how would i install it so that the services are running before login- or is that not possible, and id have to setup the box to auto log in
[06:03] <maco> picard1421: oh. dont know about that. not sure how you have gnome with gui either, but....
[06:03] <maco> SubCool: /etc/rc.local might help
[06:04] <SubCool> well, i was just wondering if it was possible,
[06:04] <SubCool> maco, because of security...
[06:04] <joren> picard1421, I had thinkfinger working a while back
[06:04] <ZykoticK9> SubCool, what do you mean "before" login?  I think there is something you can install that will allow VNC to connect to the GDM login screen (but not 100% on that).  If you mean before X starts - not possible.
[06:04] <joren> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader_with_ThinkFinger
[06:04] <mib_mib> can someone help me debug a cron problem? I have a cron job running, and i have enabled cron logs, but nothing seems to be happening
[06:05] <mib_mib> I see the jobs in /var/log/cron.log
[06:05] <mib_mib> and i dn't see any errors or anything
[06:05] <maco> ZykoticK9: are you thinking of xrdcp? thats very insecure and i dont think the new gdm supports it
[06:05] <SubCool> ZykoticK9, not necessarily before xstarts, just so that if the box gets rebooted, i can still log in remotely
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> maco, no not xrdcp, it's some vnc/gdm package of some sort.
[06:06] <SubCool> i made a service from the instruction that will initialize the server after login, but i dont believe before login.
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> maco, perhaps i'm wrong, do you know what x11vnc does?
[06:06] <maco> ZykoticK9: nope
[06:06] <SubCool> x11? wow- they are going everywhere
[06:06] <SubCool> i remember them being those stupid crapy video cams
[06:06] <Crowhunter> now that my nick is registerd do I have to use password everytime I use irc ?  how do I use password on my nick?
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> SubCool, if i where you i'd research x11vnc and find out what it does.  good luck.
[06:07] <picard1421> how about with Magnetic swipe?
[06:07] <SubCool> ZykoticK9, ty!
[06:07] <maco> SubCool: huh? wat about x11 and cams?
[06:07] <xangua> Crowhunter: your irc client should have an option to set your password
[06:07] <picard1421> like a Credit Card Reader but obviously not for credit cards.. is there any drivers for that?
[06:07] <greezmunkey> Crowhunter: check this link out: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - I was just looking into the same thing!
[06:08] <maco> picard1421: itd depend on the exact one i think, but plenty of hackers use linux to hack things with magstripes, rfid, etc. so im sure such devices exist that are linux compatible
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> maco, i think SubCool is combining x11 (xorg) with x11 (remote audio/video/control thing)
[06:09] <maco> ZykoticK9: oh. didnt know the latter existed
[06:09] <SubCool> Maco lol- ya
[06:10] <SubCool> they came out like 13 years ago. They were sold in 5 -10 peice sets..
[06:10] <greezmunkey> maco: heh, x11 I think hoped their stuff would catch on, wifi and bluetooth kind of buried them.
[06:10] <SubCool> kinda expensive-
[06:10] <SubCool> greezmunkey, welll it did help get cams out there. but that system was crap. and the cameras were HUGE.
[06:10] <picard1421> just looking for a program that works with any mag reader (ill buy one thats compatible).. buy some mag cards.. and then basically for login Swip your card..
[06:10] <zenlunatic> Crowhunter, /msg nickserv help
[06:10] <picard1421> program the card for login?
[06:11] <maco> picard1421: you might have better luck on ubuntuforums.org ... clearly nobody who's ever needed to do what you're doing is on irc right now
[06:11] <greezmunkey> SubCool: yup :) I almost (almost) carried their line in my business. Dodged that bullet though!
[06:11] <SubCool> picard1421,  lol- nice idea. y not step up to facial recog, or smartcard?
[06:11] <FullFlannelJacke> anyone here use daily Chromium PPA builds?  if so, are you having problems with page rendering (especially on forums)?
[06:11] <zenlunatic> picard1421, biometrics are easier
[06:11] <picard1421> wel facial recognition would be INSANE
[06:11] <albertolempira> i'm trying to listen US radio stations online outside american territory with no success, anybody know a way to get this done? thanks in advance
[06:11] <picard1421> is there such tools out there that are reasonably priced?
[06:12] <SubCool> greezmunkey, i started trying to sell their product until my father bough a 7 piece package for like 600$, found out it was cheaper and easier just to goto the store adn buy web cams
[06:12] <maco> albertolempira: you're looking for a proxy. google can help you find a billion of them
[06:12] <SubCool> bought*
[06:12] <greezmunkey> SubCool: nice.
[06:12] <SubCool> greezmunkey, i wanted to create a video survaience for my car- but the cameras were too big.
[06:13] <SubCool> wasnt each camera the size of a tennis ball or something?
[06:13] <albertolempira> well, i've tried with no success, is it possible to do this with free proxies?
[06:13] <albertolempira> maco well, i've tried with no success, is it possible to do this with free proxies?
[06:13] <BLW> can anyone help me with getting my eyetoy installed in ubuntu 9.04, whenever i go into to cheese it says no camera found, i have had it working on my other computer just fine. i tried also installing the ov51x drivers and when i would get to where you have to sudo modprobe i2c_core and onward it gives me a not found error. also i checked in gnome-device-manger to see if it shows up and it is. thanks
[06:14] <zenlunatic> SubCool, maybe learn how to spell first
[06:14] <SubCool> zenlunatic, never
[06:14] <maco> albertolempira: itd all depend on how the software youre using works. if its web based then a web proxy'd be fine. if not, then you need some other proxy
[06:14] <DanaG> Pentium D: because one P4 didn't heat up the room enough.
[06:15] <maco> zenlunatic: hey hey be nice
[06:15] <albertolempira> maco any recommended proxy list site or something like that?
[06:15] <DanaG> mikeru: you still around? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/MaverickUefiSupport
[06:15] <zenlunatic> maco, just saying if you cant spell how the you gonna setup mobile video surveillance
[06:15] <maco> albertolempira: nope. what you want to do is questionable in its legality
[06:16] <maco> zenlunatic: spelling, believe it or not, is not correlated to overall intelligence
[06:16] <greezmunkey> zeltak: g-o-o-g-l-e-s-t-r-e-e-t-s
[06:16] <SubCool> ZykoticK9, not to ask a stupid question, but since im good at it. What would i google? x11vnc pre bootscreen?
[06:16] <SubCool> Maco just laziness
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> zenlunatic, please drop the spelling rant.  I can't spell either.  should i just leave the channel then?
[06:16] <SubCool> or a crappy keyboard
[06:17] <zenlunatic> ZykoticK9, yes
[06:17] <DanaG> goog le streets?
[06:17] <BentFrank> New 10.4 install.  Need to mount cifs and nfs.  What do I need to apt-get?
[06:17] <zenlunatic> maco, o really where did you read that usa today?
[06:17] <DanaG> I'll goog your streets!
[06:17] <maco> zenlunatic: heck, some people cant spell english words because english is their second or third or fourth language. are they low-intelligence too?
[06:17] <albertolempira> maco wow, i didn't know that. Why is it wrong?
[06:17] <orangeglo>  how can i format my HDD to ntfs??
[06:17] <zenlunatic> maco good point
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> zenlunatic, fine.  CYA everyone.
[06:17] <mikeru> DanaG: that would be nice
[06:17] <mikeru> i hope they really do
[06:17] <SubCool> ol
[06:17] <SubCool> lol
[06:18] <zenlunatic> omg
[06:18] <DanaG> Too bad my EFI is broken... framebuffer claims to be at 0x0.
[06:18] <Crowhunter> is there a way to make a shortcut for my wow.exe to my desktop from the world of warcraft folder?  did not install wow in wine it was copied from windows pc to this ubuntu pc
[06:18] <maco> albertolempira: if its only licensed for broadcast in one region, you may be breaching copyright laws
[06:18] <DanaG> Here's what I mean by "broken": http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itpronetworking/thread/fefe7c7b-8c9d-472f-9589-327d32f30b06
[06:18] <Guest27148> hi guys
[06:19] <Guest27148> please help me getting xen installed on lucid
[06:19] <klb3713> hi, everyone!
[06:19] <maco> zenlunatic: please have a read of the CoC and channel guidelines, linked in the topic
[06:19] <BentFrank> New 10.4 install.  Need to mount cifs and nfs.  What do I need to apt-get?
[06:20] <zenlunatic> maco please dont play wannabe op
[06:20] <albertolempira> maco it's good to know that. I didn't know it. thanks
[06:20] <maco> zenlunatic: what do you mean "wannabe"?
[06:21] <greezmunkey> oops...
[06:21] <JustMozzy> good morning everyone
[06:21] <zenlunatic> maco okay :D
[06:21]  * maco ^5 IdleOne
[06:21] <crk> durp
[06:21] <mikeru> maco is indeed op.
[06:21] <zenlunatic> yes
[06:21] <IdleOne> zenlunatic: I strongly suggest you adjust your attitude and response to a more Ubuntu one.
[06:21] <maco> its just bad form for me +o to be threatening, so i didnt
[06:22] <mikeru> zenlunatic for human beings
[06:22] <zenlunatic> hm forgot where i was
[06:22] <greezmunkey> zenlunatic: a bright corner in an otherwise dark and scary Internet...
[06:22] <JustMozzy> I am having two issues. the first one is that I am connecting a 2nd monitor to my laptop, however I would like to have 2 desktops rather than an extended one. is that possible?
[06:22] <BLW> can anyone help me with getting my eyetoy installed in ubuntu 9.04, whenever i go into to cheese it says no camera found, i have had it working on my other computer just fine. i tried also installing the ov51x drivers and when i would get to where you have to sudo modprobe i2c_core and onward it gives me a not found error. also i checked in gnome-device-manger to see if it shows up and it is. thanks
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> BLW: if you run: lsusb  you will see the 8 character hex id, you can websearch that to find guides
[06:23] <Swish> cour
[06:23] <BLW> thank you
[06:23] <Swish> w/w, sorry :)
[06:23] <picard1421> i saw the APP pam face authentication.. is there anyway to get this to work without a GUI?
[06:24] <picard1421> is there like anyway to possibly have a GUI login that kills to terminal after login?
[06:24] <dfrank> dear All! Hello. I've got a question. There's utility NetworkManager in Ubuntu. I have set up wifi WPA connection, works fine. But i can't find, where's result config? For example, in Slackware i have set up wifi WPA by editing configs in /etc/wpa_supplicant . In ubuntu this directory also exists, but there's no configs in it. Tell me please, where is NetworkManager configs?
[06:24] <So_Confused> Hi... am I in the ubuntu help channel?
[06:25] <maco> So_Confused: yes
[06:25] <SubCool> nope- hell
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> dfrank: i think its in gconf someplace, just let gnome do its thing and you'll be fine
[06:25] <SubCool> sorry, please try again
[06:25]  * SubCool "Insert Coin"
[06:25] <dfrank> ActionParsnip: i don't like gnome, i want to install fluxbox.
[06:26] <BentFrank> New 10.4 install.  Need to mount cifs and nfs.  What do I need to apt-get?
[06:26] <SubCool> dfrank,  i fell for inlighenment
[06:26] <pie_> how can i set up a logitec quickcam 4k on ubuntu?
[06:26] <maco> dfrank: gnome keyring
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> dfrank: fluxbox stil uses gtk afair
[06:26] <So_Confused> Hoping to find a solution.... I've a HP mini 110-3030 nr with a Atheros AR9285 wireless card. Trying to install drivers or madwifi. I seem to need to make sure no other drivers are accessing the card, but I don't (can't find) any info on how to do this.
[06:27] <maco> dfrank: i know slack uses wicd, not nm though. you can install wicd on ubuntu if you wish
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> So_Confused: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1286503
[06:27] <So_Confused> Running 10.04 Lucid Lynx Netbook.
[06:27] <maco> dfrank: then itd work the same as you're used to on slack. there's also /etc/network/interfaces as a way to configure connections. for that, man 5 interfaces
[06:27] <So_Confused> Action Parsnip... thanks. Checking that now.
[06:28] <aaron_> i have a 3.7g iso that mounting gives me a 135kb txt file...me thinks that is not all thats in there
[06:28] <picard1421> is there anyway to only have a GUI login? nothing else GUI?
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> So_Confused: change release names to lucid if you see any
[06:28] <aaron_> trying to put contents on flashdrive
[06:28] <dfrank> maco: ok, thanks. i don't want to use any GUI, because i want to know what to do if there's no X on machine :)
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: why not just use cli login to then stay at cli. it'd be a smoother ride
[06:29] <dfrank> maco: any GUI utility for set up wifi, i mean
[06:29] <So_Confused> ActionParsnip: change release names? As in just change the name of the file? or make sure I download for 10.04?
[06:29] <blackasaurus> I just installed 10.04 and xchat-gnome on a $298 acer laptop from walmart with amd 2.2ghz 2gb memory, 250 gb hdd dvd burner, 15.6" hd lcd and windows 7 and everything works flawlessly. :)
[06:29] <maco> dfrank: i imagine you're used to wpa supplicant's usual commands then. in interfaces you can just prefix them with wpa-
[06:30] <maco> dfrank: like "wpa-ssid linksys" and "wpa-psk mypassw0rdishere" as two lines in your wireless's stanza
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> So_Confused: no, as you read the guide they mention jaunty. You aren't using jaunty, you are using lucid. so when you see the word jaunty, change it in your head to lucid. do the same with any other release name words you see
[06:30] <maco> dfrank: then just commen/uncomment as you chane APs and use "ifup $interface"
[06:30] <maco> *change
[06:30] <benoitc> ÙÙ/WIN 23
[06:31] <unrealT> hello there i updated my wubi 12 hours ago now the x window is not working Please help
[06:32] <So_Confused> ActionParsnip: you are refering to the linix-backport-module section?
[06:32] <aaron_> if i have the windows7 iso and i mount it i just get a 135 kb text file saying "this is an OS" trying to get contents on a flashdrive.  if i just drop the iso on the FB can i still boot off it?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> So_Confused: as well as others, yes
[06:33] <So_Confused> ActionParsnip: Ok. Thank you
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: no you need special softwares
[06:33] <unrealT> I am not able to start x-window for my ubuntu
[06:34] <unrealT> PLease help
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: you can use unetbootin or usb-cretor-gtk   not sure about Win7 ISO though. I'd ask in ##windows about that
[06:34] <XuMuK> hi there!
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> unrealT: run: startx     if/when it fails run:   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log    and read
[06:36] <thune3> So_Confused: there are wireless specific backports package, if you are going that route. see "Getting compat-wireless on Ubuntu" section of http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
[06:36] <VS-> Can anyone help me? I:m still suffering a
[06:36] <XuMuK> what was a command options for apt-get for make a list of installed applications, if I want the same after clean re-installing? anybody knows?
[06:36] <VS-> unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon error, even after reinstalling.
[06:36] <maco> XuMuK: its for dpkg actually
[06:36] <So_Confused> thune3: Thank you. More tutorials the better
[06:36] <VS-> Er, installing.
[06:36] <maco> XuMuK: dpkg --get-selections > packages.list
[06:37] <maco> XuMuK: then on new system, dpkg --set-selections < packages.list
[06:37] <maco> XuMuK: then sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[06:37] <XuMuK> maco, yeah, sorry, that's it!
[06:37] <bzaks1424> After a kernel update from a fresh install of Ubuntu - my boot time extends about 20-30 seconds while the HD is very busy... what's going on and how can I alleviate the issue?
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> bzaks1424: reboot, get logged in and stuff then run:  dmesg | less    observer the times on the left, when you get a large gap, that is where your issue is
[06:38] <bzaks1424> cool - what's that caused by?
[06:38] <bzaks1424> oh
[06:39] <bzaks1424> wait
[06:39] <JustMozzy> my second problem is that frequently when I am listening to music or playing a game the machine just freezes and draws either a grey, black or striped screen. anyone any ideas on that?
[06:39] <bzaks1424> I totally get what you just said - sorry
[06:39] <picard1421> would there be a way to setup an install with KDE... and basically have KDE only for login.. once it logs in it kills KDE goes straight to ... command line (like server edition)>???
[06:40] <bzaks1424> So would this be the cause: [    3.805604] EXT4-fs (sda5): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
[06:40] <bzaks1424> [   12.357027] udev: starting version 151
[06:41] <bzaks1424> picard: sudo aptitude install kde-desktop I believe
[06:41] <bzaks1424> or hit ctrl+alt+f7
[06:41] <Tohuw> I am unable to get PulseAudio to detect digital (HDMI or Optic) surround sound. I have tried modifying the pulseaudio conf, but speaker-test -c 6 reveals it is still using a 2 channel output. In pavucontrol's configuration tab, I get only stereo configuration options. Any ideas?
[06:43] <maco> bzaks1424: picard1421 just wants a dm with no graphical sessions
[06:43] <bzaks1424> Ah my bad
[06:43] <picard1421> ok basically
[06:43] <picard1421> i dont mind having
[06:43] <maco> picard1421: kdm DOES give an option where the session is a plain tty
[06:43] <picard1421> DWM
[06:43] <picard1421> installed
[06:43] <FloodBot3> picard1421: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> bzaks1424: thats a good 9 second gap, i'd check your drive is healthy
[06:44] <mikeru> I sense KDE > GNOME blasphemy...
[06:44] <maco> picard1421: youd need to edit some stuff in /etc to get the graphical sessions out of the list though
[06:44] <picard1421> ok this is what i want ....
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: ease up on the enter key dude, you are scrolling the channel
[06:44] <maco> mikeru: i dont knowwhethr ubuntu offers that or not.i havent used it in years. im a kubuntu user
[06:44] <o2oo> hi
[06:44] <bzaks1424> ActionParsnip - SmartStatus says healthy
[06:45] <o2oo> who could tell me what's the best java source code editor in ubuntu?
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> bzaks1424: grab the ultimate boot cd and test the HDD with manufacturers tools
[06:45] <bzaks1424> ActionParsnip - is there a better way to check?
[06:45] <mikeru> maco: GNOME was just not for you, and KDE was. both have their stuff.
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> o2oo: theres no best app for anything
[06:45] <Tohuw> !best > o2oo
[06:45] <picard1421> i want to have a KDE login... so that it pops up with a KDE based LOGIn a GUI thing that i can customize.. Once I "login" then i want it to basically drop EVERYThing and go back to just ubuntu server edition?
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> o2oo: there is no best anything in life
[06:45] <maco> mikeru: yep, but im saying i know kdm comes configured out of the box with an option to do what picard1421 wants
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> !ide | o2oo
[06:45] <maco> mikeru: last time i used gdm, it didnt
[06:45] <mikeru> ActionParsnip: I'd say eclipse is.
[06:46] <mikeru> o2oo: try eclipse. It's very good, and since it's primary focus is java you'll feel right at home
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: yes, thats an opinion. or best to you. a universal outright best of anything doesn't exist. Even living isn't best to some people
[06:46] <o2oo> yes, I am using it
[06:47]  * mikeru feels suicidal thoughts stem from ActionParsnip
[06:47] <o2oo> I am using eclipse. but it seems couldn't edit the source code outside the project
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> o2oo: use what you like. You are using an OS which promotes choice then you wander in here so a group of strangers can tell you what to use.... doesn't make sense
[06:47] <tensorpudding> yeah, that's part of the issue of using an IDE
[06:47] <mikeru> o2oo: just drop the source file by the open files tabs. it will open it
[06:48] <tensorpudding> you can still edit the .java files outside of Eclipse though
[06:48] <mikeru> and you need no project
[06:48] <picard1421> i think you get what im Saying..
[06:48] <picard1421> ?
[06:48] <mikeru> i.e. you have foo.java open, and you want to open not-in-project bar.java, you just drag it from nautilus beside the foo.java tab in eclise
[06:49] <picard1421> basically just have  KDE login screen and then just DROP KDE all together
[06:49] <mikeru> picard1421: you can set it to log to gnome, but it still requires every single KDE library installed, even if you won't use it.
[06:49] <picard1421> basically i saw i wanted to use PAM for facical recognition login.. unless you can find a way to do facial recognition without a GUI...??? i mean i would prefer to have no GUI installed but im not sure the best way to get facial recognition without a GUI.. will DWM or X11 be enough not even full KDE?
[06:50] <mikeru> picard1421: facial recognition is blasphemous
[06:50] <picard1421> wht do u mean?
[06:50] <mikeru> picard1421: I've yet to see it :P
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: why do you want gui login if you are just going to use cli??
[06:51] <picard1421> ActionParsnip: well im trying to do facial recognition login.. i dont want a GUI.. at all.. but i cant figure out a way to do facial recognition login without it??
[06:51] <VS-> So, no one can help?
[06:51] <mikeru> picard1421: ActionParsnip says words of wisdom, listen to him/her
[06:51] <picard1421> if there is anyway or any program to use to do it through CLI i would soooooo happy
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: him ;)
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: weird stuff, i see you point
[06:52] <picard1421> yea lol its somewhat interesting..
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: i'd just have the user log in to an x session then
[06:52] <picard1421> well how about this at least: is there a way to have static images as the login screen..? not a GUI but basically static Image with type username type password
[06:53] <picard1421> then
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: i believe maco knows a thing or 3
[06:53] <SubCool> did i miss anything?
[06:53] <picard1421> if the username works you get another static image for 5 seconds then goes right to CLI normall and then if it doesnt work then goes to another Static image for 5 weconds... back to login... It does even have to "login" to the terminal... like almost a security barrier before logging in (as stupid as this may sound)
[06:54] <picard1421> actionParsnip: what about the X session?
[06:54] <maco> picard1421: kdm is still graphical, but it has a way to login so that you just get a tty.  its a default option.  if you just remove the graphical options, the users cant screw around and pick non-tty
[06:55] <So_Confused> About the backports... Am I to install ALL the Lucid backports modules, or just the ones that say 'wireless'?
[06:55] <SubCool> picard1421, be sure to test it- , i did that once, and it somehow crashed my X-
[06:55] <picard1421> tty ?
[06:55] <VS-> Argh, how do I fix the "Unexpectedly disconnected from boot system daemon" error?
[06:55] <picard1421> i assume that means like CLI?
[06:56] <SubCool> ya
[06:56] <maco> picard1421: yes the thing you get when you ctrl+alt+f1
[06:56] <maco> picard1421: thats tty1 and the f2 one is tty2 etc
[06:56] <SubCool> but then u have to manually startx
[06:56] <SubCool> right?
[06:56] <maco> SubCool: picard1421 wants X not to be there at all
[06:56] <SubCool> or have they changed that
[06:56] <picard1421> yeayea
[06:56] <SubCool> ya- i know
[06:56] <maco> SubCool: or at least not after you login
[06:56] <SubCool> ya- thats what we r talking about
[06:56] <picard1421> what about.... use KDE as a barrier before that..
[06:57] <SubCool> uh- ...
[06:57] <SubCool> no?
[06:57] <SubCool> lol
[06:57] <picard1421> tso like..
[06:57] <mikeru> RAINBOW, I HAZ IT
[06:57] <SubCool> i cant imaging logging into a gui, and then being pushed back to CLI
[06:57] <picard1421> =i know its frustrating
[06:57] <SubCool> sounds like one of my bad days actually
[06:57] <maco> picard1421: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader#kdm_support
[06:57] <picard1421> i wish there was no problems like this.. if there were a facial recognition that worked with CLI i would be golden
[06:57] <SubCool> i hate mandriva
[06:58] <SubCool> im sure there is- but ... it would be a hassle
[06:58] <picard1421> whats KDM?
[06:58] <maco> picard1421: the login screen used in kde
[06:58] <maco> picard1421: as opposed to gdm, the login screen used in gnome
[06:58] <maco> picard1421: dm = display manager
[06:58] <SubCool> acronyms are silly like that
[06:58] <picard1421> there is no graphical setup for obviously just server lol
[06:59] <tensorpudding> hooray, force-killed banshee, and now banshee won't start up again
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: just select text mode as the session after selecting your username
[06:59] <o2oo> mikeru,  oh yes!! thank you!
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: make sure no other banshee processes are running
[06:59] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, - that goes to picard1421
[06:59] <So_Confused> running 10.04 netbook. Trying to get Atheros AR9285 working. Installing the lucid backports, do I install ALL backports for lucid, or just those that say 'wireless'? Should this be the solution or just part 1 of it?
[06:59] <tensorpudding> i just checked, there are a lot of them
[06:59] <maco> picard1421: right but if you just install kdm, you can make it work with fingerprint readers and whatnots, and set it up so that it ONLY allows login to CLI/TTY, and then youve got what ou want
[06:59] <picard1421> ohhh
[06:59] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, i have run across it before when my graphics cards fail- its a nightmare.. i have always dreaded CLI- but im giving in,.
[07:00] <picard1421> so i dont need KDE to install KDM??
[07:00]  * mikeru thanks o2oo
[07:00] <mikeru> WAIT
[07:00] <mikeru> WHY?
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: if its really dead then kill pulseaudio  then run: rm -r ~/.pulse*    then press alt+f2 and run: pulseaudio
[07:00] <SubCool> picard1421, ????
[07:00] <maco> picard1421: some of the base libraries, yes, but the apps, no
[07:00] <mikeru> haha, o2oo you're welcome
[07:00] <picard1421> ahhhhhhhhh
[07:00] <picard1421> ok now we are getting somehwere
[07:00] <tensorpudding> banshee works now
[07:00] <pie_> how can i set up a logitec quickcam 4k on ubuntu?
[07:00] <picard1421> so if i run apt-get install kdm
[07:00] <SubCool> very good :)
[07:00] <maco> picard1421: i'd add --no-install-recommends to that
[07:01] <SubCool> sounds like ur piecing a car together. lol-
[07:01] <xangua> pie_: have you installed cheese¿
[07:01] <tensorpudding> thanks
[07:01] <maco> picard1421: so it only pulls actual dependencies not the nice-to-have stuff too
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> pie_: run: lsusb    you will see the 8 character hex id, websearch that for guides
[07:01] <pie_> ActionParsnip: thanks
[07:01] <SubCool> picard1421, just do what me and ActionParsnip were talking about
[07:01] <picard1421> apt-get install --no-install-recommends
[07:01] <picard1421> apt-get install kdm --no-install-recommends
[07:01] <maco> picard1421: yeah should work. but im going to bed now. others can take it from here
[07:02] <SubCool> swim away- swim away!!
[07:03] <picard1421> so 240 MB is the lightest package i can have?
[07:05] <Loshki> picard1421: note some apps are fussy about the order so it might be: apt-get install --no-install-recommends kdm
[07:05] <picard1421> kk
[07:06] <hasen> hi
[07:06] <hasen> is the dock in unity available as a stand alone
[07:06] <hasen> that can be used in other desktops?
[07:06] <hasen> like xfce, etc?
[07:07] <picard1421> with X sessions like in dwm... do i need to install a Gnome or anything.. or will it work?
[07:08] <joeyyyy> how do i make dhcpd not list any ports 0.0.0.0:68
[07:08] <Loshki> picard1421: well, you need *something*. It doesn't have to be Gnome, but Gnome is a good choice...
[07:09] <Docteh> isn't that the regular port for dhcp?
[07:09] <picard1421> is there anything lighter than Gnome???
[07:09] <Docteh> lxde?
[07:09] <red2kic> picard1421: LXDE. XFCE?
[07:09] <red2kic> picard1421: No DE! Make your own!
[07:10] <red2kic> picard1421: Server edition! No need for those pesky X11 stuffs.
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> joeyyyy: use iptables or firestarter to configure iptables
[07:10] <picard1421> ?
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: flwm is probably lightest, Fluxbox, openbox are light too
[07:10] <picard1421> do thery have GUI login's
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: the login system is seperate to the DE and WM
[07:11] <Loshki> picard1421: yes, and some are specially designed to be extra light. One of the lightest is said to be fluxbox per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278872
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: you can use KDM to log into any desktop environmnt you like, a desktop environment doesn't have a dedicated login system
[07:12] <picard1421> but for example will programs that work on KDE no work on this.. like for example PAM.. if i wanted to to just like i said literallly run just a login with GUI and thats it?
[07:12] <picard1421> but why did KDM take 212 MB to DL?
[07:12] <picard1421> seems very heafty.. becuase it needs all the dependencies of good ol KDE?
[07:12] <shawnboy> anyone know how to add an album to CDDB?
[07:12] <picard1421> evenouthg they are not running
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: deps and libs
[07:12] <well_laid_lawn> all the kde libs come with kdm afaik
[07:12] <picard1421> kk
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: its also why servers dont have x servers, its less to run and smaller footprint, leaving greater resources for the stuff it i serving
[07:14] <picard1421> hmmm..
[07:14] <picard1421> but for example if i just login with KDM
[07:14] <Docteh> heh be careful if you install two display managers at once, its hard to fix kdm and gdm fighting over an X display
[07:14] <picard1421> and set it to go to tty1
[07:14] <picard1421> or tty in general will all the KDE dependencies not be used.. resource non intensive.. ?
[07:15] <Docteh> picard1421: its a question of "is the thing running" not "is it visible"
[07:15] <Docteh> picard1421: you could just get people to learn to type startx if they want a gui ;)
[07:15] <marios> i want to install ubuntu and then backtrack 4 tools , do you think is possible ?
[07:16] <picard1421> its not the fact they need a gui.. doctech, its the fact for face authentication.. and i cant figure out a awy to have like face autentication login then goes directly to CLI..
[07:17] <picard1421> like if there was only a face auth tool that worked exclusively in CLI..
[07:17] <Docteh> chvt or run a terminal app maximized instead of a wm
[07:18] <Shurathing> Hello, trying to get wireless working, install lucid backports. Got an error from Synaptic. E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.32-24-generic_2.6.32-24.17_i386.deb: trying to overwrite '/lib/udev/compat_firmware_24.sh', which is also in package linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.32-24-generic-pae 0
[07:18] <picard1421> docteh what do you mean
[07:19] <Docteh> have it go from login -> running gnome-terminal or whatever you like in fullscreen
[07:19] <picard1421> how do you do that?
[07:20] <princeof179> any one knows where i can find the next ubuntu
[07:20] <xangua> princeof179: the next¿
[07:20] <Loshki> picard1421: face authentication?
[07:20] <xangua> marios: anything is possible
[07:21] <picard1421> yes..
[07:21] <picard1421> does DWM have its own GUI login?
[07:21] <Docteh> picard1421: you'd have to read the kdm/gdm docs
[07:21] <princeof179> any RC for ubuntu
[07:22] <Loshki> picard1421: using e.g. qt-facetrainer?
[07:22] <picard1421> can you do that from CLI???
[07:22] <well_laid_lawn> !meercat | princeof179
[07:22] <xangua> !ubuntu+1 | princeof179
[07:23] <well_laid_lawn> I spelt it wrong...
[07:23] <Docteh> heh i wonder if !isitout will ban me
[07:23] <Docteh> !isitout
[07:23] <mm2000> Hi there. For some reason some websites doesnt load for me, the browser never completes the request, often when x% of the page has been loaded. Anyone knows what the problem can be? Its the same for ff and chrome and i have disabled ipv6. ubuntu 10.04
[07:23] <Loshki> picard1421: well, this guy seems to do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOZ8ifKjCIw
[07:23] <Shurathing> brb
[07:23] <picard1421> yes that is in KDM
[07:24] <picard1421> lol
[07:24] <picard1421> or KDE
[07:24] <picard1421> not even KDM
[07:24] <FloodBot3> picard1421: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:24] <Guest88931> is there a way to keep alive PPPoE over DSL link alive automatically?
[07:24] <Loshki> picard1421: don't hit enter so much so the Floodbot doesn't get you...
[07:24] <HAly> is there a way to keep alive PPPoE over DSL link automatically?
[07:26] <mm2000> anyone?
[07:26] <Barrelsofp00> installed kde, removed kde, and now my cursor is stuck with the kde cursor, how do i get rid of this thing?
[07:27] <Barrelsofp00> I've tried changing the theme, with no avail
[07:28] <no--name> Barrelsofp00: right click desktop > change desktop background > theme > customize > pointer
[07:28] <jana_> hello there! in gnome at 10.04 i´ve got the following problem: when i pull of the mains plug the power management always tells me that the battery is empty even if it is not! after that the system goes into hiernate state. Does anyone know about that? (this appears only in gnome not in kde)
[07:29] <Barrelsofp00> no--name: I've tried, changing it there does nothing, the cursor remains
[07:29] <no--name> ok
[07:29] <Barrelsofp00> no--name: any other ideas?
[07:30] <no--name> no idea sorry
[07:31] <hstefan> hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.04 in my laptop, but I'm stuck with my ethernet controller (SIS191 gigabit), that doesn't work (it even notice that there's an network avaiable). Please help me!
[07:32] <KB1JWQ> hstefan: There a restricted driver available for it?
[07:32] <KB1JWQ> I'm not familiar with the hardware offhand. :-)
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: is that what is output in: sudo lshw -C network
[07:33] <hstefan> ActionParsnip: for checking this, I should be connect to any network?
[07:33] <hstefan> KB1JWQ: I dunno... sorry
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: not necessary. The command merely scans the hardware
[07:34] <hstefan> product: 191 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
[07:34] <hstefan> vender Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
[07:34] <hstefan> vendor*
[07:34] <picard1421> https://code.google.com/p/pam-face-authentication/
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-the-sis191-gigabit-ethernet-driver-on-linux-2.6
[07:35] <Shurathing> sorry for all the questions. Trying to install lucid backports. I get errors all over the place. eg. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.32-24-generic_2.6.32-24.17_i386.deb (--unpack):
[07:35] <Shurathing>  trying to overwrite '/lib/udev/compat_firmware_24.sh', which is also in package linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.32-24-generic-pae 0:2.6.32-24.17
[07:35] <ngirard> Hi all. One such "ktikz" package is in conflict with others and prevents apt to perform the rest of its operations; but when I try to apt-get remove ktiks, it's reported as non installed. How can I solve this ?
[07:38] <hstefan> ActionParsnip: oh, looks complicated. But thanks, I'll do my best.
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Shurathing: sudo dpkg --force-all -I /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.32-24-generic_2.6.32-24.17_i386.deb
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Shurathing: also log a bug for the package
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: you'll need to do it everytime you get a new kernel too so keep the source handy
[07:39] <marios> can i install the ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso on my hp laptop 64 bits ?
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> marios: yes
[07:39] <hstefan> also: if you even wondered about buy any sis hardware part FORGET THE IDEA
[07:39] <mikeru> hstefan talks with wisdom. Sis plain sucks
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> marios: 64bit cpus have 32bit emulation in them (except crappy itaniums)
[07:40] <Shurathing> ActionParsnip: Thank you. Trying that now.
[07:40] <marios> oky thanks i will do it via unetbootin
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: +1 their video cards are fun to setup too and need xorg.conf files
[07:40] <mikeru> itaniums are dead
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> Shurathing: the -I I put is lowercase
[07:40] <tensorpudding> doesn't hp still make machines with itaniums?
[07:40] <rxd> please point me to a frugal install of ubuntu
[07:40] <Shurathing> kk
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: you can get them on ebay. They only run 64bit though
[07:41] <hstefan> mikeru: the problem is that I can't sell that stupid laptop because  it was a present and I'm not confortable to 'give a shit' for a present... so...
[07:41] <mikeru>  ActionParsnip: but nobody uses them, because it sucks.
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Shurathing: but you get the idea. After that, run: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:41] <mikeru> : )
[07:41] <invisibleprison> I got an error saying I was out of drive space. It turned out my .xsession log was in excess of 500G. I deleted it, but now I am out of space again and I can't figure out why. The numbers don't add up.
[07:41] <collabra> rxd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:41] <hstefan> ActionParsnip: yeah, I have a SIS671 too. It was a pain to work in better resolution.
[07:41] <hstefan> to make it work*
[07:41] <mikeru> hstefan: you could say smoke came off  and so you threw it away
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: I use a lot of cpus which suck (albeit not itaniums)
[07:41] <GetDown> Hi all, i have a problem with "Java" chat's, i'm using Firefox but i cannot open the chat... it loads the webpage but it ends without joining chat.... is there a problem with FireFox and Java ?
[07:42] <mikeru>  ActionParsnip: so do I. they are called Celerons.
[07:42] <mikeru> ugly things
[07:42] <mikeru> wonder why did they spread like fire...
[07:42] <hstefan> mikeru: nah, it would be dirty.
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> GetDown: if you test java on www.java.com do you have java installed
[07:42] <xangua> do you use java or openjdk¿ do you have the browser plugin installed¿ GetDown
[07:42] <Shurathing> Restarting... wish me luck
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: try pentium 200mhz mmx
[07:42] <hstefan> but it's not a fully bad idea...
[07:42] <mikeru> hstefan: sometimes you have to get your hands dirty..
[07:43] <mikeru> ActionParsnip: there's a difference between ugly and old
[07:43] <mikeru> ActionParsnip: when it was released, I bet it wasn't ugly
[07:43] <mikeru> sucky*
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: if you check the hcl before purchasing it makes life easier
[07:43] <rxd> Its MinimalCD can this be installed using frugal
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: true but its a decent enough chip for torrents + file server + backup, a celeron would be lovely
[07:44] <invisibleprison> This is what df reports for that partition: /dev/sda8  747G  709G  4.0K 100% /home. How does that make sense? There's ~40G unaccounted for there, nevermind the fact that only about 50-60G should be used, not 709G
[07:44] <GetDown> ActionParsnip, xangua  i'm checking sec....
[07:44] <hstefan> ActionParsnip: yeah, but as I said before, it was a present (from my mother) and she knows shit about hardware.
[07:44] <mikeru> ActionParsnip: then, use a celeron :-)
[07:44] <collabra> rxd: It's a standalone install,... when you said frugal i thought you meant a minimal install,...
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> invisibleprison: that would be the journal
[07:45] <collabra> rxd: what is frugal?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: don't have one and don't have a celeron board
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> collabra: its like a minimal install
[07:45] <invisibleprison> ActionParsnip, Do you know why my drive would be showing up as full when it's not?
[07:45] <mikeru> actionparsnip: mmm
[07:45] <mikeru> : (
[07:45] <rxd> collabra: frugal is when you install ubuntu on an ntfs partition without using the device say /dev/sda1 as your root
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> invisibleprison: it is, the space is occupied by the ext3 or ext4 journal
[07:46] <hstefan> ActionParsnip: ooh, waait. I dunno if that howto you sent me will work. I don't get any error when execute 'modprobe sis190'
[07:46] <invisibleprison> ActionParsnip, 650G?
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: oooh exciting. Try: ifconfig
[07:46] <hstefan> humm, what am I searching there?
[07:47] <rxd> collabra: like u have a readonly system...same like running from the CD but instead your initrd.gz filesystem.squashfs on the drive say c:\ubuntu
[07:47] <collabra> rxd: oh,... well,... you can download ubuntu 10.04 LTS,... I think it has what's called an install using wubi.exe if you want to put it within windows.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> invisibleprison: 747gb - 709gb = 36gb which is about right for a journal on a partition that size
[07:47] <red2kic> Abe: :P
[07:47] <red2kic> !hi | Abe
[07:48] <collabra> rxd: I'm not sure... maybe someone else could help you.
[07:48] <hstefan> ActionParsnip: dunno if you saw the last message but: what should I search on ifconfig's output?
[07:48] <invisibleprison> ActionParsnip, `sudo du --summarize -h /home 2> /dev/null` reports 56G	/home
[07:48] <GetDown> ok i just installed FireFox Java plugin but it still sux :(
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: if you have a new interface name
[07:49] <rxd> collabra: k thank you
[07:49] <pradeep> hi everyone
[07:49] <xangua> GetDown: did you restart firefox¿
[07:49] <hstefan> well... you mean 'eth0' stuff or something like that?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> invisibleprison: what does --summarize do?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: indeed
[07:49] <collabra> rxd: np
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> invisibleprison: can you pastebin the output of: df -h ,please
[07:49] <hstefan> ActionParsnip: well, it always been there, so nothing changed...
[07:49] <GetDown> yes xangua
[07:50] <invisibleprison> ActionParsnip, summarize displays only a total for each argument
[07:50] <GetDown> when i restart i got a error message "Java console is not supported and will be disable"
[07:50] <GetDown> :(
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: ok then try: sudo dhclient eth0
[07:51] <hstefan> ActionParsnip: now I need internet connection, right?
[07:51] <invisibleprison> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/470569/
[07:51] <hstefan> or even a network ;P
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: i'd also run: dmesg | tail ,to check the kernel messages
[07:51] <GetDown> i'm trying other java console versions...
[07:52] <GetDown> and it's the same :(
[07:52] <hstefan> well... brb.
[07:52] <rxd> collabra: MinimalCD looks good
[07:52] <Shurathing> back. ActionParsnip: after restart all errors in tray are gone. Still not seeing any wireless networks. Do I have to uninstall or reinstall any of the backports for Lucid?
[07:52] <invisibleprison> ActionParsnip, accidentally left off the headers, do you need those?
[07:53] <LinuxFetus> hey I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 32-bit.  I'm new to Linux.  When I first installed Ubuntu, it would display an Ubuntu Splash/Loader with the word Ubuntu, the logo, and about five dots that would be lighting up underneath... I did something and now it just shows a black screen with a blinking underscore in the upper-left hand corner.  What do I have to do to restore the original boot splash screen?  Thanks in advance!
[07:53] <collabra> rxd: right on,... glad to help.
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> invisibleprison: yep, the partition is full. If you install bleachbit you can clear temp stuff out nicely. Watch browser settings as it'll clean settings you wanna keep. Also avoid settings that say they will take a long time. Also before running close as many apps as you can to unlock files
[07:53] <Shurathing> Like the name LinuxFetus
[07:54] <roved2101> oh yes
[07:54] <LinuxFetus> Shurathing, thank you :)
[07:55] <invisibleprison> ActionParsnip, The problem isn't temp files. I only have 56G that SHOULD be showing. I deleted a 500GB .xsession file this morning and I'm wondering if somehow whichever process it was is still writing to the partition, but not to an actual file?
[07:56] <rxd> collabra: Can MinimalCD be installed on the usb stick
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[07:56] <hstefan> hi. I'm back. ActionParsnip, 'sudo dhclint eth0' gaves me 'DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval [7,9,15,8,14]' and 'dmesg | tail' gave me lots of '[x, y] eth0: autho-negotiating'.
[07:56] <pie_> ok so i have my webcams drivers installed and it looks like its working but flash wont recognize th e webcam, any ideas?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: use that guide until the embedded video. It will force the framebuffer driver until you get to login then your nvidia/ati card will kick in
[07:57] <collabra> rxd: not sure,... just a sec.
[07:57] <LinuxFetus> ActionParsnip, I'm not sure what that means, yet, but I will read and get back to you if I have questions/problems.  Thank you :)
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> invisibleprison: could fsck the partition in livecd. May help
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> hstefan: did the lights on the interface flash?
[07:58] <picard1421> how do i install C++ is it apt-get install G++ or is it apt-get install gcc?? what is it ?
[07:58] <picard1421> i just want a C+ compiler
[07:58] <invisibleprison> ActionParsnip, it probably will, but this isn't the first time this has happened and it's very frustrating.
[07:58] <hstefan> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[07:58] <pie_> ActionParsnip: sorry im bithering you so much :P , ok so i have my webcams drivers installed and it looks like its working but flash wont recognize th e webcam, any ideas?
[07:59] <hstefan> picard1421: if you want a compiler you can use g++. sudo apt-get install g++
[07:59] <invisibleprison> ActionParsnip, if I kill all of the programs that had a handle on the .xsession file, do you think that could help?
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: it walks you through it. The proprietary driver isn't loaded right away so the display stinks. The frmebuffer driver is quicker and will give a display for the duration of the boot
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> invisibleprison: worth a shot
[07:59] <invisibleprison> ActionParsnip, only 78 processes
[07:59] <collabra> rxd: i found this... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick ..... I'm sure it'll work as long as you know what you're doing... I'm not sure what operating system you are using,... but i'm sure there's a way.
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> invisibleprison: there are scripts online to show the largest folders and files on a partition too
[08:00] <rxd> collabra: ok thanks
[08:00] <invisibleprison> ActionParsnip, there IS no file. that's the problem. df says /home has 709GB used. du says /home has 56G used.
[08:01] <mengchao> hello
[08:01] <collabra> rxd: np
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> invisibleprison: then fsck the partition is all I can suggest duder
[08:01] <adalal> hey
[08:02] <adalal> quick question, i have a radeon HD 3200 graphic card, which video driver should i use?
[08:02] <AdvoWork> i deleted loads of files yesterday off my deskop, but when i use uploading websites, and browser, on the desktop theres loads of ~files that have been deleted. these arent hidden or visible, but i cant see them on the desktop?
[08:02] <LinuxFetus> ActionParsnip, It appears that this is making me change my proprietary driver to a generic one (I have a GeForce 6800)... That's going to fix this?
[08:02] <mengchao> hey
[08:03] <Pranky> mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed
[08:03] <adalal> AdvoWork: aren't those temporary files anyways?
[08:03] <Pranky> mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed, mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed
[08:03] <Pranky> no such file or directory
[08:03] <mengchao> what
[08:04] <adalal> bump, i have a radeon HD 3200 graphic card, which video driver should i use?
[08:05] <hstefan> I'd explode all sis factories with a smile in my face.
[08:06] <xerox1> after ubdating firefox i have a problem with starting it; problem comes from the profile directory; now i would like to determine, which file / plugin etc causes the problem; starting firefox from console does not give any output; how to do that?
[08:06] <ilovefairuz> xerox1: firefox -safe-mode
[08:07] <well_laid_lawn> Pranky: did you edit something/rebuild something ?
[08:08] <xerox1> ilovefairuz: thx man!
[08:08] <Pranky> well_laid_lawn: No, actually it was shutdown by powercut and then when power comes it showing this message.
[08:09] <well_laid_lawn> Pranky: checked in the bios that all hdds etc are fine?
[08:10] <afief> What can I do when the ubuntu keyserver is down?
[08:10] <Shurathing> Maybe all my half-sighted tinkering botched something. I'd like to re-install 10.04. After that I'll install the backports for Lucid. But do I install ALL backports? Or a specific module? I'm on a HP netbook with a dang Atheros AR9285 Wireless card.
[08:10] <pres> afief; wait for it to come back online again.
[08:10] <Pranky> well_laid_lawn: Yes, I checked. There is only one HDD and it is showing up.
[08:11] <afief> pres, no way to obtain the keys somewhere else and install them manually?
[08:12] <trans> hello everyone, i want to change login, spalsh screen, plz help
[08:12] <pres> afief; dunno. I don't use Linux for my pgp keys.
[08:12] <well_laid_lawn> Shurathing: if you are only using the backports for a driver for the wifi just  install the driver module - search for atheros
[08:12] <afief> pres, thanks
[08:12] <ilovefairuz> Shurathing: linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[08:12] <pres> afief; I do know it's always down though. People are always whining about it being down.
[08:12] <well_laid_lawn> Pranky: I would suggest booting into the recovery option and checking the errors there
[08:12] <EgyParadox> which is the best calendar application?
[08:13] <pres> EgyParadox; what's wrong with Evolution's built in cal?
[08:13] <ilovefairuz> !best | EgyParadox
[08:13] <Shurathing> well-laid-lawn: Search for Atheros in PackageManager didn't result in anything about driver modules.
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[08:13] <afief> pres, it's rather funny isn't it? after all ubuntu is one of the largest linux distros out there
[08:13] <pres> afief; pgp management is not one of the things I like in Linux. Sorry.
[08:13] <pres> afief; but yes, funny.
[08:14] <Shurathing> ilovefairuz: Thank you. I'll try that.. btw, how do I reply correctly in chat? As to highlight the users name?
[08:14] <well_laid_lawn> Shurathing: see what a search for wireless turns up
[08:14] <well_laid_lawn> !tab | Shurathing
[08:14] <ilovefairuz> Shurathing: you just did (by prefixing username to your reply)
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Shurathing: did you get your packages installed ok?
[08:15] <mikeru> OH
[08:15] <mikeru> FloodBot1 is taking over!
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Floodbot war!
[08:16] <Shurathing> ActionParsnip: No. I installed all backports. I'm going to do a fresh install and just install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Shurathing: ok, can you please log the bug though. It will help others :)
[08:16] <LinuxFetus> ActionParsnip, I did what the site said and it didn't work; instead of loading a black screen with a blinking underscore in the upper left hand corner, it now is just completely black.
[08:17] <Shurathing> FYI, there are 2 back ports.. one ending _generic, other ending _generic-pae
[08:17] <Shurathing> ActionParsnip: Will log the bug
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: here's the one I used. Had to scan my favourites: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[08:20] <Shurathing> so I don't use the backport ending in -pae?
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: little more involved but worked like a champ here
[08:20] <LinuxFetus> ActionParsnip, should I undo what I did earlier?
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Shurathing: if you run: uname -a ,and see pae then yes
[08:20] <LinuxFetus> ActionParsnip, before moving onward with this?
[08:20] <trans> how to change login screen
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: most of it is identical, just a few extra steps
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Trans: http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13
[08:22] <trans> thanks
[08:23] <LinuxFetus> Ahhh I think I may have done it incorrectly -- the "GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024" step requires uncommenting that line... I missed that before.
[08:23] <Shurathing> ActionParsnip: Awesome... no pae it is then. Thanks
[08:23] <LinuxFetus> ActionParsnip,  Ahhh I think I may have done it incorrectly -- the "GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024" step requires uncommenting that line... I missed that before.
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: d'oh. Keep going with the guide though
[08:24] <trans> ActionParsnip it changes the wallpaper, i want to change the complete login window
[08:24] <arvind_khadri> hi, yesterday there was a person here, who was complaining something about eclipse. Except helios all other versions of eclipse are broken as of now.
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: I have to do it with my lappy with its crappy intel vga
[08:25] <shorttech> are there any experts here with kvpnc??\
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> trans: afaik its not supported yet, there's an app named epidermis which may help. That's all I know dude. Its on the screen for about 2 seconds so I've not put much effort into studying it
[08:25] <arvind_khadri> shorttech, just ask, an expert isn't needed always :)
[08:25] <trans> ok
[08:26] <trans> i'll try that
[08:26] <Shurathing> Re-installing. bbiab
[08:27] <afief> pres, ended up downloading the key from another keyserver(there are quite a few it turns out) and adding it through apt-key add key.pub
[08:28] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: They should take that off. :)
[08:28] <leonord> trying to add printer to cups through the localhost interface. after selecting 'HP', a list of only 9 HP printers are listed but without my model which is F380. how to get a more comprehensive list?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: take what off?
[08:28] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: Splash screen.
[08:28] <pres> afief; fair enough. I did know there were a few different key servers but had no idea what they were.
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> leonord: install the hplip package or get the latest script from the hplip site
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: you mean plymouth?
[08:29] <afief> pres, I used http://keys.gnupg.net/
[08:30] <pres> afief; that's what I use. But mine is all managed through Windows.
[08:30] <leonord> ActionParsnip: hplip has been installed. if i get the script from the site, how to get it into hplip?
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: true but users like pretty pointless splash screens as boot text seems to have been branded as offensive
[08:30] <afief> pres, aha
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> leonord: grab the script, mark it as executable then launch it in a terminal as user (not with sudo)
[08:30] <ddavids> #nglug
[08:31] <leonord> ActionParsnip: ok, thks.
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> leonord: websearch hplip, you'll find it. Hp loves linux
[08:31] <grendal_prime> ok i have a headless machine that i need to have full access to.  I would like to just log into the desktop on that machine.  I dont want to use vnc.  It works but i would really like to just run a remote session basicall.
[08:32] <pres> afief; sorry I didn't mentioned this server to you. :-(
[08:32] <afief> pres, NP :-) google did mention them
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: why do you need a fullblown desktop? What activities are you doing?
[08:32] <shorttech> I'm wondering if there is a way for me to test my kvpnc connection
[08:32] <grendal_prime> the main reason is that this box is for virutalmachines primarily.
[08:32] <ilovefairuz> grendal_prime: ssh
[08:33] <shorttech> I dont think its working 100% - I just switched from Mandriva and I had working in Mandria 10 just fine, but cant seem to find the problem with ubuntu
[08:33] <grendal_prime> i use ssh every day. most of the work i do is on remote nix systems.  this is why i know very little about remote desktops in general
[08:33] <shorttech> maybe its something with my firewall
[08:33] <grendal_prime> free nx seems to be pretty reliable and fast.
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: the vms can be handled on the vm. You can x forward the management x based app if you need it or if the server has a web interface, even better
[08:34] <LinuxFetus> ActionParsnip, Well it's getting better but there are a couple of problems - it changed the resolution of Grub 2 -- now everything's tiny... I don't like that.  Secondly, the Ubuntu font/logo isn't there.  It's now just "Ubuntu 10.04" with serifs on the font and not the standard logo, if that makes sense.  My Grub is configured slightly differently.  Inside of /etc/grub.d, I have changed 40_custom to have options for the OS's I
[08:34] <LinuxFetus>  want to select on startup (I don't like the fact that there's a memtest, etc., and that I can't rename them).  I have two choices: "Microsoft Windows XP Professional" and "Ubuntu 10.04 LTS" (that's what I've called them).  I chmod'ed the permissions on "10_linux," "30_os-prober", and "20_memtest86+" to no longer be executable by anyone (chmod ugo-x).  Then I run update-grub and then my boot/grub/grub.lst file or whatever only
[08:34] <LinuxFetus> has two menu options -- the two specified in 40_custom.  I don't know if that's pertinent, or not, but I thought I'd let you know just in case.
[08:34] <FloodBot1> LinuxFetus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:34] <grendal_prime> is there a web interface for virtualbox?
[08:34] <ilovefairuz> grendal_prime: you can use ssh X forwarding: ssh -YC user@host
[08:34] <shorttech> LinuxFetus, are writing a book?
[08:34] <grendal_prime> im not using vmware.
[08:35] <vssun> hi how to install https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntugis-unstable?field.series_filter=lucid this package on a standalone machine?
[08:35] <grendal_prime> ilovefairuz, ya i do that alot but umm this is on the same network..i dont need to encrypt it..
[08:35] <LinuxFetus> shorttech, No... sorry :X  I just wanted to be very specific.
[08:35] <iceroot> grendal_prime: #vbox
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: you could have just commented the entries in tehe various files you editted. Memtest is handy but is removable just like any other package
[08:35] <grendal_prime> im finding that ssh is a bit slow in this situation.
[08:36] <grendal_prime> i guess i could use rsh
[08:36] <ilovefairuz> grendal_prime: and so? it's just a proven method of painlessly running remote X applications. -C will compress the data back and forth
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: what virtualisation technology are you using?
[08:36] <JustMozzy> hi guys. I am having a critical issue. I can't install anything anymore :S :S when I run apt-get install I get these errors: http://www.pastebin.ca/1910771 need help urgently
[08:36] <grendal_prime> ActionParsnip, virtualbox
[08:36] <grendal_prime> im currently a vcp but i dont have the money for vmware.
[08:37] <hariom> Hi, I want to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64bit on my Ubuntu 8.04 LTS i386 machine. My PC processor is 64 bit so I want to use Ubuntu 64 bit version. Unfortunately, the DVD drive is not working. How can I install 64bit version on old 32 bit Ubuntu?
[08:37] <grendal_prime> personally ive found it does not perform as well as virtualbox anyway.
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: ask in #vbox ,there may be a web gui which is slick
[08:37] <arvind_khadri> JustMozzy, your tmp directory has run out of space
[08:37] <LinuxFetus> I'm not sure what you mean... As far as I understand, the other files don't explicitly make mention of all of the OS's -- they search the drive for partitions with OS's loaded and display them.  Furthermore, the grub.lst file or whatever says at the top that it isn't to be modified directly.
[08:37] <ilovefairuz> grendal_prime: http://code.google.com/p/vboxweb/
[08:37] <hariom> I have internet and local Lan access where I have 64bit iso file
[08:38] <apt415> JustMozzy: how do you have your system partitioned?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> JustMozzy: reading. Its taking an age due to the graphical crap around the text
[08:38] <JustMozzy> apt415, I have the whole HD automatically partitioned by the ubuntu installation
[08:39] <ilovefairuz> hariom: you can't install a 64bit ISO on a 32bit machine
[08:39] <hariom> How to do Ubuntu network install? I want to install ubuntu 64bit on my existing 32 bit ubuntu version.
[08:39] <hariom> Machine is 64bit.
[08:39] <hariom> I earlier installed 32 bit OS on 64bit machine. But now I want to go with 64bit OS
[08:39] <well_laid_lawn> !minimal | hariom
[08:39] <ilovefairuz> hariom: then download the 64bit ISO and install as usual
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> JustMozzy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1281096
[08:40] <hariom> ilovefairuz: DVD drive is broken. Looking for network install option. How to do that
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> hariom: if you want to change architecture you must reinstall
[08:40] <ilovefairuz> !install | hariom
[08:40] <hariom> ActionParsnip: Yea, I want to do fresh install
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> hariom: use a usb stick or sd card etc
[08:41] <frag4now> hi all. I'm going to install wxWidgets compiling it but pkg-config can't find GKT libraries. I looked for in /usr/lib/pkgconfig/ directory but there isn't a gtk+.pc file...any ideas?
[08:41] <hariom> USB stick? how? Should I extract ISO and put that in USB stick and make USB as first boot device?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> hariom: if you have a 1gb stick you can put the desktop iso on it and install it all offline
[08:41] <Adminio> \j #ubuntu-it
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> hariom: no, it needs software like usb-creator-gtk or the tool on pendrivelinux which is for windows
[08:42] <ilovefairuz> !unetbootin | hariom
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> hariom: or you can use unetbootin in either
[08:42] <JustMozzy> ActionParsnip, that forum post is of little help actually :S
[08:43] <apt415> quick question ( maybe ) I just registered a domain name. To associate it with my system do I use bind9?
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> JustMozzy: my connection is dog slow. I saw that it was solved and had text from your paste
[08:43] <JustMozzy> ActionParsnip, no problem ;)
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> JustMozzy: you needs guides regarding the cache being small etc
[08:43] <ilovefairuz> apt415: you first have to tell the registrar DNS servers to point to your static IP address
[08:43] <pie_> anyone experienced with webcamstudio?
[08:43] <ecolitan> how can i test a machine for rustock spam bot?
[08:44] <apt415> ah ok thanks
[08:44] <ilovefairuz> !anyone | pie_
[08:44] <leonord> my hp f380 is not on the list of drivers of hplip. where to get the driver?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> JustMozzy: and use the apt::cache-whatever text to help gwet accurate results
[08:44] <mm2000> Hi there. For some reason some websites doesnt load for me, the browser never completes the request, often when x% of the page has been loaded. Anyone knows what the problem can be? Its the same for ff and chrome and i have disabled ipv6. ubuntu 10.04
[08:44] <pie_> ilovefairuz: hehehe
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> leonord: oh boy, look around. There may be a similar model you can tell your system to use the settings of
[08:45] <pie_> ilovefairuz: i usually dont do that, late night, i forgot
[08:45] <well_laid_lawn> mm2000: allowed java in preferences for firefox?
[08:45] <JustMozzy> clear
[08:45] <frag4now> this is the error: http://dpaste.com/223038/
[08:45] <pie_> how do you set the output of webcamstudio? im trying to use it as the input device for flash
[08:45] <pie_> *webcam input device
[08:45] <mm2000> well_laid_lawn, Nope
[08:46] <well_laid_lawn> mm2000: it might be hanging on the adds then
[08:46] <ilovefairuz> pie_: right click on the flash element and select "settings" go to last tab and select it as source
[08:46] <picard1421> is there a way to setup the password lock on CLI so that after 3 failed attempts..
[08:47] <picard1421> the computer wipes itself.. automatically?
[08:47] <mm2000> well_laid_lawn, I doubt that, its only for certain pages and the only addons i have are developer kit, firebug, yslow and flashblocker.
[08:47] <picard1421> is this possible?
[08:47] <frag4now> someone could be so kind to explain me why there is no gtk+.2.0.pc file in pkgconfig dir even if libgtk is installed? thanks
[08:48] <pie_> ilovefairuz: i have that set, its that flash isnt getting any video input
[08:48] <ilovefairuz> picard1421: you can wrap the 'login' binary with another that does so
[08:48] <picard1421> how would that be done?
[08:49] <Dezine> Is it possible to have different panel setups for each workspace?
[08:50] <picard1421> ok i will try and set that up later.. Thanks!
[08:50] <Dezine> Guess I could just have them autohide but I was thinking of having a more minimalistic view for one space and regular on another kinda thing
[08:50] <blunder> hey is there a 64 bit version of acrobat for lucid?
[08:50] <frag4now> maybe my question is dumb or wrong?
[08:50] <|DURAN|> what antivirus do you recommend for ubuntu? and some firewall?
[08:51] <frag4now> |DURAN|: clamav,iptables
[08:51] <ilovefairuz> frag4now: install the -devel equivalent
[08:51] <|DURAN|> frag4now, av clamav and firewall iptables?
[08:52] <ilovefairuz> |DURAN|: ubunu does not need an antivirus, unless you run an internet-accessible mail server
[08:52] <frag4now> ilovefairuz: hmm are you sure i miss that? because to install gkt*-dev i need to install a lot of stuff
[08:52] <Dezine> Guess it's not possible, guess I could make a feature request. Thanks.
[08:52] <frag4now> |DURAN|: google knows
[08:52] <|DURAN|> frag4now,  can I call it from synaptic pack manager?
[08:52] <Adminio> #ubuntu.it
[08:52] <ilovefairuz> |DURAN|: and ubuntu ships with a firewall, try sudo apt-get install gufw
[08:53] <|DURAN|> ilovefairuz, thanks a lot
[08:53] <Adminio> #ubuntu-it
[08:53] <mohanohi> hi ..
[08:53] <|DURAN|> frag4now, ok, thanks
[08:53] <mohanohi> getting an error!!
[08:53] <mohanohi> E:Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. (man 5 apt.conf),
[08:53] <ilovefairuz> frag4now: install only the -devel packages of the libs you need
[08:54] <mohanohi> in package manager.
[08:54] <ilovefairuz> mohanohi: do you have little RAM and/or swap ?
[08:54] <pie_> ilovefairuz: in the bottom left corner of webcamstudio it also says no output...
[08:54] <mohanohi> swap 3 gb
[08:54] <mohanohi> ram 2 gb
[08:54] <mohanohi> how to increase the cache-limit?
[08:54] <mohanohi> is it necessary to increase?
[08:55] <frag4now> ilovefairuz: http://dpaste.com/223043/
[08:55] <Remmaze> Hi guys, im running ubuntu 10.04 on Lenovo x100e, as we all know, there no dvd drive on lenovo x100e, so my question is, is there and applications for me to run a DVD ISO, so that i can the thumbnail while giving out presentation...
[08:55] <LinuxFetus> Hey did ActionParsnip say when (s)he'll be back?
[08:55] <tanasuk_> humm... I added the APT-CacheLimit to my /etv/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf and set it to 50MB but it when I run apt-get autoclean it still shows me the old value
[08:55] <Remmaze> Hi guys, im running ubuntu 10.04 on Lenovo x100e, as we all know, there no dvd drive on lenovo x100e, so my question is, is there and applications for me to run a DVD ISO, so that i can play the thumbnail while giving out presentation...
[08:56] <ilovefairuz> mohanohi:  edit /etc/apt/apt.conf to modify this option
[08:56] <pie_> gah...stupid flash
[08:56] <mohanohi> ilovefairuz: nothing in the file
[08:57] <LinuxFetus> Hey this is what my Ubuntu splash screens look like (start up and shutdown, respectively) -- can someone help me ?  http://pastebin.com/JBwi87Zu
[08:57] <ilovefairuz> mohanohi: then create new one
[08:57] <tanasuk_> ilovefairuz, still no change :S
[08:57] <tanasuk_> odd
[08:57] <mohanohi> ok
[08:58] <ilovefairuz> JustMozzy: mohanohi: try apt-cache clean
[08:58] <R3D_DR6G0N> hello everyone!
[08:58] <ilovefairuz> after editing the file
[08:58] <JustMozzy> done that :s
[08:58] <finemann> how does one edit the grub kernel parameters (10.04)?
[08:59] <R3D_DR6G0N> why do you want to edit the grub kernel?
[08:59] <SwedeMike> !grub2 | finemann
[08:59] <ilovefairuz>  JustMozzy: mohanohi: sorry, sudo apt-get clean
[08:59] <mohanohi> ilovefairuz: still erro
[08:59] <Mohan_chml> mohanohi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1258124 that might help you I think
[08:59] <finemann> R3D_DR6G0N, http://linux4tw.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/tips-acer-5740-laptop/
[09:00] <finemann> SwedeMike, okay
[09:01] <ilovefairuz> Mohan_chml: well using debian repositories on ubuntu would be a rather ... bad idea
[09:01] <Hypnus9> Hi...I need to know how to change ownership of a file in a terminal
[09:01] <mohanohi> ilovefairuz: yes.. thats what i did
[09:01] <tuxbox> i have usb HD , and it's read sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk  any help
[09:01] <Mohan_chml> awww
[09:01] <pres> Hypnus9; chown
[09:01] <mohanohi> cause i needed a new version of jack software
[09:01] <ilovefairuz> Hypnus9: chown user:group
[09:01] <red2kic> Hypnus9: chown $USER:$USER
[09:01] <Hypnus9> thanks
[09:01] <mohanohi> where ubuntu is still using old versions
[09:01] <pres> Hypnus9; or sudo chown filename
[09:02] <ilovefairuz> mohanohi: you can NOT use standard debian repositories on ubuntu, don't ask for help if you still do this
[09:03] <mohanohi> ilovefairuz: ok.. i removed debian repository. Problem resolved.. :)
[09:03] <JustMozzy> ok, apt-get update finally fixed it
[09:03] <user1_> whats a good program for configering my  beliking wireless usb deivce
[09:03] <tuxbox> i have usb HD , and it's read sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk  any help ??
[09:04] <user1_> tuxbox what you mean
[09:04] <user1_> so you have a usb harddrive at sda
[09:05] <tuxbox> ubuntu read it as SCSI and it's  USB
[09:05] <tuxbox> do u know what is SCSI  ?
[09:05] <user1_> yes a scsi
[09:05] <l1nux_master> small computer systems interface
[09:05] <tuxbox> it's old hard disks type
[09:06] <tuxbox> my usb hard is tooo slow
[09:06] <tuxbox> any one have a good way ?
[09:06] <l1nux_master> switch to esata
[09:06] <tuxbox> how
[09:06] <user1_> Small Computer System Interface
[09:07] <l1nux_master> buy an enclosure like $20 on ebay
[09:07] <tuxbox> :( there is no driver for usb2
[09:07] <tuxbox> ?
[09:07] <ilovefairuz> tuxbox: USB *is* slow
[09:07] <l1nux_master> anyone know a way for cde on ubuntu?
[09:08] <tuxbox> ys
[09:08] <l1nux_master> how
[09:08] <tuxbox> ilovefaituz
[09:08] <DASPRiD> for external hard drives, either use esata or sas
[09:08] <tuxbox> i need USB2 Driver
[09:08] <Sevith> I know this is a simple questions but. instead of when i boot my computer up i wanna see what is going on in my system i dont want to see the ubuntu logo how can i do this?
[09:08] <ilovefairuz> tuxbox: i'm saying that this is how USB devices are, by their nature
[09:08] <Sevith> using grub just remove the quiet line from the boot loader menu list?
[09:08] <JustMozzy> thanks to all :)
[09:08] <ilovefairuz> tuxbox: slower than normal internal hard disks, you don't need a driver
[09:09] <MaRk-I> Sevith: remove "quiet splash" from grub
[09:09] <JustMozzy> btw, how can I find out why my machine is often just freezing up while playing games or watching a movie? I think iut might be because of the graphic card driver. my graphic card is ATI Radeon HD
[09:09] <Sevith> Also do you people reccomend disabling IPv6?
[09:09] <ilovefairuz> Sevith: remove quiet splash
[09:09] <l1nux_master> always disable ip6
[09:09] <Zela> how do I delete a direc?
[09:09] <Sevith> recommend*
[09:09] <tuxbox> how come guyz it's work  good under windoz  and it's read as partition
[09:09] <user1_> how can i set up my wireless deivce
[09:10] <l1nux_master> delete directory with rm -r
[09:10] <Sevith> ok Thought so :D
[09:10] <Sevith> Thanks guys :D
[09:10] <user1_> whats a good tool to setup wireless
[09:10] <ilovefairuz> l1nux_master: what are you talking about?
[09:11] <Sevith> What does the ro mean on the bootloader line?
[09:11] <tuxbox> my usb harddisk is too slow and it's not in USB2 any help ?
[09:11] <l1nux_master> what?
[09:11] <Sevith> what is the ro option?
[09:11] <ilovefairuz> l1nux_master: whom are you telling to delete a directory ?
[09:11] <l1nux_master> rm -r remove
[09:11] <l1nux_master> terminal command
[09:11] <Sevith> rm -rf / ? ? ?
[09:11] <ilovefairuz> l1nux_master: in reponse to who ?
 how do I delete a direc?
[09:11] <user1_> ffs
[09:12] <user1_> wireless how?
[09:12] <Sevith> Warning.
[09:12] <Sevith> rmdir <DIR NAME>
[09:12] <MaRk-I> tuxbox: that depends on your usb connector
[09:12] <l1nux_master> Ze;a
[09:12] <user1_> whats thats
[09:12] <troopperi> user1_: whats your wireless card/device?
[09:12] <Sevith> Thats how you delete a dir
[09:12] <Sevith> rmdir
[09:12] <user1_> belkin
[09:12] <user1_> usb stick
[09:13] <user1_> a fd750 a belive
[09:13] <tuxbox> MaRk-I  IT'S OKIE IN WINDOZ
[09:13] <hrhrhr_> guys
[09:13] <tuxbox> it's something wrong in my system
[09:13] <hrhrhr_> when i sudo -s
[09:13] <hrhrhr_> i lose my aliases
[09:13] <ilovefairuz> !who | l1nux_master
[09:13] <user1_> tuxbox use windows then for larger files
[09:13] <hrhrhr_> wut is goan on
[09:14] <tuxbox> i have larger files here and i can't backup it on my HD
[09:14] <tuxbox> am facing problem guyz
[09:14] <tuxbox> plus i don't have windoz installed here
[09:14] <user1_> save it to disk?
[09:14] <user1_> install it?
[09:14] <l1nux_master> how to unarchive 7z from command line?
[09:15] <user1_> tar -xzvf pkg
[09:15] <l1nux_master> thanks
[09:15] <ilovefairuz> l1nux_master: p7zip
[09:16] <siewriorek> Strange question: ssh failed to access to ubuntu host , ping works, I can access to the ubuntu host from another host, any help?
[09:16] <tuxbox> iptables -F
[09:16] <ilovefairuz> siewriorek: what error message do you get?
[09:16] <ilovefairuz> !who | tuxbox
[09:16] <siewriorek> I use putty to test the ssh access, it hang
[09:17] <siewriorek> iptables has shutdown
[09:17] <l1nux_master> iptables ruins everything
[09:17] <ilovefairuz> l1nux_master: iptables is very useful when used properly and please stay on topic
[09:18] <troopperi> user1_: whats says lsusb? Type to console
[09:18] <siewriorek> all my hosts are in a local network
[09:18] <l1nux_master> firewalls are not necessary unless not protected by a firewall
[09:18] <ilovefairuz> !ot | l1nux_master
[09:18] <l1nux_master> in other words you need a firewall if you are straight facing the internet
[09:19] <well_laid_lawn> siewriorek: using an ip adress or hostname to connect to?
[09:19] <siewriorek> IP
[09:19] <well_laid_lawn> k
[09:19] <user1_> is there a paste bin here
[09:19] <l1nux_master> what window manager does everyone use?
[09:20] <siewriorek> I've connect to ssh service correctly using another host, strange
[09:20] <user1_> but troopperi its not pluged in now
[09:20] <ilovefairuz> !paste | user1_
[09:20] <user1_> its in a nother box be sheared here coz it would'nt work
[09:20] <troopperi> user1_: thats important to get more information your belkin
[09:20] <chepo> do anybody knows how to make this faster when i click on a progwine or anything else y do it take like 5mins to pop up ?anybody
[09:20] <user1_> what you need
[09:21] <user1_> i know its working  coz i can scan with some command lwfs or somthing thats list all the wireless AP in range
[09:21] <user1_> but not connect
[09:21] <well_laid_lawn> chepo: slow computer?
[09:21] <ilovefairuz> siewriorek: ipv6 enabled ?
[09:22] <troopperi> user1_: ok
[09:22] <siewriorek> just ipv4 statistic IP setted
[09:22] <chepo> na it was running nice for the past year
[09:22] <siewriorek> no gateway and DNS
[09:22] <l1nux_master> does anyone use fluxbox?
[09:22] <ilovefairuz> siewriorek: sudo service ssh reload
[09:22] <skramer_> hi, anybody knows if Epson DX scanners conected to USB can be used in network via saned?
[09:22] <ilovefairuz> !poll | l1nux_master
[09:22] <user1_> troopperi its the scerity i think is the truble cant seem to cennect
[09:22] <chepo> this just happen like 4 days ago and am not even using alot of memory too
[09:23] <siewriorek> I've try several times to restart my network and sshd, it doesn't work
[09:23] <troopperi> user1_: do you use server or desktop version?
[09:23] <ilovefairuz> siewriorek: don't 'restart' ssh, reload it
[09:23] <well_laid_lawn> l1nux_master: yep fluxbox ftw!
[09:23] <user1_> server
[09:23] <siewriorek> reload? ok, I'll try
[09:24] <Sevith> :o
[09:24] <well_laid_lawn> chepo: must have got an update that cahanged something - the folks in #winehq might know
[09:24] <well_laid_lawn> changed*
[09:25] <chepo> its not onlu wine do
[09:25] <siewriorek> Thanks ilovefairuz and other guys
[09:25] <siewriorek> exit
[09:25] <Sevith> well SOB..
[09:26] <chepo> is this xchat too took along time
[09:26] <Sevith> Whats the off topic chan ubuntu-offtopic ?
[09:26] <erUSUL> Sevith: yes
[09:26] <ilovefairuz> !language | Sevith
[09:26] <troopperi> user1_: http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/
[09:26] <iceroot> Sevith: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:27] <temba> Hello, anyone can help me maybe. i try to install some things via cpan. but i need to tell cpan to use the proxy in our lan, how can i do that ?
[09:27] <well_laid_lawn> chepo: open a terminal and start an app from there to get any errors
[09:27] <chepo> k
[09:27] <erUSUL> temba: maybe it onours http_proxy env variable? see the cpan man page
[09:28] <shurathing> Back. Fresh install of 10.04 on HP netbook with Atheros AR9285 wireless card. Installed lucid backport. I can see the wireless networks, but I cannot connect.
[09:29] <skramer_> the device is an EPSON Stylus DX-5050, printing works (local & LAN), scanner works local. But so far, no other client in the LAN can see the scanner :-(  Any hints?
[09:29] <chepo> a give me something to open
[09:29] <thj> 都是哪里的人 ？
[09:29] <blunder> you can say that again
[09:29] <well_laid_lawn> chepo:    nautilus
[09:30] <chepo> it works good
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> chepo: try   xchat   in a terminal
[09:30] <user1_> troopperi my net is week cant get on web sites
[09:30] <chepo> xchat
[09:30] <temba> erUSUL, i cant find man page, man cpan says no entry
[09:31] <chepo> see it open fast
[09:31] <erUSUL> temba: try « http_proxy=whatever cpan [rest of options] »
[09:31] <well_laid_lawn> chepo: sounds like it might just be wine apps
[09:32] <troopperi> user1_: how about ifconfig command
[09:32] <user1_> thats works :P
[09:32] <chepo> i cant open wine apps on terminal
[09:32] <chepo> or run them from there
[09:32] <well_laid_lawn> chepo: you can but I don't know how
[09:33] <user1_> i dunnno whats happed to my network applet on the desktop its seems to have stop running
[09:33] <iceroot> chepo: error of   wine foobar.exe?
[09:33] <shurathing> Don't mean to repeat myFresh install of 10.04 on HP netbook with Atheros AR9285 wireless card. Installed lucid backport. I can see the wireless networks, but I cannot connect.self, just don't wanna get lost in the chat... a recap.
[09:33] <user1_> and now never runs
[09:33] <erUSUL> temba: see the answer here http://bytes.com/topic/perl/answers/690367-cpan-through-proxy-needs-authentication
[09:33] <shurathing> that didn't paste right.
[09:33] <chepo> what u mean iceroot
[09:33] <iceroot> chepo | i cant open wine apps on terminal
[09:33] <iceroot> chepo: what is the error?
[09:33] <troopperi> user1_:  pastebin,  what its says?
[09:34] <user1_> shurathing i have the same truble are useing server or desktop verison
[09:34] <shurathing> user1: Netbook
[09:34] <erUSUL> temba: or here http://www.mail-archive.com/cpan-discuss@perl.org/msg00409.html
[09:34] <user1_> troopperi it had my eth0 and lo connects
[09:34] <chepo> i wanna open programs like of wine on terminals
[09:34] <flohack> Hi! I can't get the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa to work in ubuntu 10.04. I always get
[09:34] <flohack> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_GB
[09:35] <flohack> and the packages from the ppa are not displayed in 'apt-cache policy kdebase' for example
[09:35] <chepo> can i install programs on terminal
[09:35] <ilovefairuz> shurathing: pastebin lshw -C network
[09:35] <shurathing> After installing the backports for wireless issues, am I to install something else?
[09:36] <edakiri> Sevith: no.
[09:36] <erUSUL> !software | chepo
[09:36] <shurathing> ilovefairuz: I'll try that, but what's it do?
[09:36] <edakiri> Sevith: i do not recommend it unconditionally.
[09:36] <ilovefairuz> shurathing: you need to reboot after installing it
[09:36] <edakiri> Sevith: I use mainly IP6
[09:36] <chepo> yell but if its from windows u cant can u
[09:37] <user1_> any one use #webmin
[09:37] <temba> erUSUL, tahnks, i will try out the tipps. thanks for help
[09:37] <ilovefairuz> shurathing: it displays your hardware configuration
[09:37] <ngirard__> Hi all. After upgrading to 10.04 I guess something when wrong with my policykit configuration. I can do nothing. polkit-auth --show-obtainable only lists: org.freedesktop·policykit.read , org.freedesktop·policykit.revoke, org.freedesktop·policykit.grant and org.freedesktop·policykit.modify-defaults. Hon can I fix this ?
[09:37] <erUSUL> temba: no problem
[09:37] <barna> bin
[09:37] <edakiri> I use IP6 on my local network and IP4 to the Internet.  You can go into IP6 networks or VPNs on the Internet if you wish.
[09:37] <chepo> i dont like wine very much its not working 4 me
[09:37] <Sevith> edakiri, The reason i asked is im behind an unaware gateway if i use ipv6 id have to implement tunneling. If there a performance hit/boost with disabling or enabling ipV6?
[09:37] <GreenMeanie> Hey, Does anyone use Scribes text editor?
[09:38] <Sevith> wt*. When i close firestarter and its running in the tray it stops running?
[09:38] <chepo> do anybody knows a different program like wine
[09:38] <edakiri> there is a slight, perhaps negligible performance boost where pure IP6 is used.  main advantage of IP6 is larger address space
[09:38] <ilovefairuz> ngirard__: you can purge the packages and install again
[09:39] <shurathing> ilovefairuz: I did restart after installing backports. I can see networks, but can't connect. pastebin lshw -C network gives error... pastebin: command not found
[09:39] <edakiri> UDP might be more reliable in IP6 because it is never fragmented en-route
[09:39] <ilovefairuz> shurathing: sudo apt-get install lshw
[09:39] <ngirard__> ilovefairuz, Hi ! okay, let's do this. Could you please give me a hint for this ?
[09:39] <tuxbox> E: Package hotplug has no installation candidate
[09:40] <user1_> how do you setup udp
[09:40] <shurathing> I'm a noob
[09:40] <Sevith> edakiri, Isnt IPv6 implementations full of holes and security issues...?
[09:40] <tuxbox> apt-get install hotplug  help ?
[09:40] <chepo> is there another wine program out there
[09:40] <ilovefairuz> ngirard__: determine the package names you need to restore the config files of, apt-get purge them, and apt-get install them
[09:40] <i_am_deviant> hi there
[09:41] <thune3> shurathing: you installed pastebinit? sudo apt-get install pastebinit    And the using for that case would be "lshw -C network | pastebinit -"
[09:41] <i_am_deviant> i'll very appreciate if someone would show me output from "dpkg --listfiles $(dpkg -L `which tunctl`)"
[09:41] <i_am_deviant> sorry, i do not have deb-based system, so i'm not 100% sure of dpkg switches because of my memory holes
[09:41] <tuxbox> apt-get install hotplug  gives error !!! is only available from another source
[09:41] <edakiri> Sevith: Mainly it is good if you use IP6 so you can find flaws and report them.  Before lucid 10.04, IP6 lagged behind Debian Testing.  Now it is usable.
[09:41] <ngirard__> ilovefairuz, I seem to have 2 different versions of polkit installed: policykit and policykit-1. Is it the same situation on your machine ? It seems weird to me
[09:41] <ilovefairuz> i_am_deviant: use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:41] <shurathing> thune3: kk... got ya.
[09:41] <chepo> wats hotplug
[09:42] <ilovefairuz> ngirard__: what file did you edit before the configuration got messed up ?
[09:42] <iceroot> !who | chepo
[09:42] <Sevith> edakiri, I am on 9.10..Dont have the bandwidth nor speeds on this systems im on to update my OS. :(
[09:42] <chepo> k
[09:43] <chepo> iceroot is there any other program like wine
[09:43] <ilovefairuz> chepo: no
[09:43] <ngirard__> ilovefairuz, I just performed a dist-upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, which got interrupted because my system froze. I had to get it to recover afterwards
[09:43] <iceroot> chepo: for what?
[09:44] <edakiri> Sevith: If you can not use at least Lucid, it is of little worth to try to use IP6
[09:44] <ilovefairuz> ngirard__: ah well, bad news
[09:44] <cannonball> During install I get " (initramfs)Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[09:44] <chepo> ilove thats suck wine dont work well for me
[09:44] <shurathing> ilovefairuz:http://pastebin.com/4DpVRZms
[09:44] <ilovefairuz> !tab | chepo
[09:44] <sander__> How can I have two diffrent versions of the same program installed in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[09:44] <chepo> iceroot 4 anything to be install correctly
[09:45] <ngirard__> ilovefairuz, it's okay... from http://www.pubbs.net/200911/ubuntu/41553-karmic-policykit-1-grant-access-to-user.html i can read : PolicyKit has been replaced
[09:45] <ngirard__> >> with PolicyKit-1, but there is now no gui to configure any of the policies.
[09:45] <ngirard__> Do you have any opinion on this assertion ilovefairuz ?
[09:45] <iceroot> chepo: anything what? deb files?
[09:45] <FloodBot1> ngirard__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:45] <Sevith> edakiri, Alright until I can update I will leave it disabled then. Can you tell me though...Does lucid use a different stacks for IPv6 and v4 or are they still integrated?
[09:45] <chepo> i see
[09:45] <sander__> Instead of upgrading a program, I want to be able to access both the old and new version at the same time..
[09:45] <chepo> thanks ubottu
[09:46] <jasonwryan> sander__: virtualbox?
[09:46] <SwedeMike> Sevith: I have a hard time thinking ipv4 and ipv6 stacks will be separated, so yes, it's "still".
[09:46] <edakiri> Sevith: as far as I know, they are integrated in linux, except perhaps for iptables
[09:46] <sander__> jasonwryan, I don't want to install the os another time.
[09:46] <cannonball> after I get the install comeplete, using the asci workaround, I get this error "Gave Up waiting on root device".. anyone able to help?
[09:46] <Sevith> SwedeMike,  I was more or less wondering if they implement tunneling in lucid or they have a separate stack for it
[09:47] <JustMozzy> hi guys, I'm back. I ran now an update etc etc but now I have a warning: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5. I tried to run: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5 but it says that the key is unchanged... :S
[09:47] <sander__> jasonwryan, is that the only way?.. or installing everything needed inside a chroot jail ?
[09:47] <SwedeMike> Sevith: afaik nothing has really changed regarding tunneling, no.
[09:47] <ilovefairuz> ngirard__: it's true
[09:48] <chepo> icerootjust for my games
[09:48] <ngirard__> thanks, ilovefairuz
[09:48] <jasonwryan> sander__: it's the simplest way, afaict...
[09:48] <Sevith> SwedeMike, alright. I was just wondering..too lazy to google. My system is to slow to surf then net right now haha
[09:48] <shurathing> tunneling as in ssh tunnel?
[09:49] <Sevith> shurathing, no as in teredo tunneling for ipv6
[09:49] <sander__> jasonwryan, so it's not possible to "repackage" the .deb so it gets another name.. or something ?
[09:49] <ilovefairuz> !who | shurathing
[09:49] <Sevith> or something similiar
[09:49] <iceroot> chepo: please use detailed questions. so you mean windows-programs, you can use wine and also other projects based on wine (which costs money)
[09:49] <magicianlord> !tab
[09:49] <baggu_arain> hello everyone
[09:49] <jasonwryan> sander__: not that I am aware of: it would introduce a level of complexity you may regret...
[09:49] <ilovefairuz> !hi | baggu_arain
[09:49] <chepo> icerootwhat other projects
[09:50] <hiubuntu> hi everyone, i'm configure msmtp with my gmail, but i can't find the file(/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt) in ubuntu 10.04, how to solve it or why?
[09:50] <iceroot> !cedega | chepo
[09:50] <rifter> I am using FireStarter to control iptables, and have no policy blocking outbound connections.  With the firewall enabled I cannot access www.cartalk.com or bitbucket.org.  With it disabled I can.  Events show the firewall blocking *inbound* connections from the sites but whitelisting them for inbound does not change anything.  any ideas?
[09:50] <JustMozzy> solved it with http://www.khattam.info/2010/03/21/badsig-40976eaf437d05b-lucid-lynx/
[09:51] <cannonball> after I get the install comeplete, using the asci workaround, I get this error "Gave Up waiting on root device".. anyone able to help?
[09:51] <chepo> iceroot  thanks man i go check it out
[09:52] <baggu_arain> i want to download various episodes of a show from youtube, each episode is divided in parts, so i want to combine, convert and make a dvd
[09:52] <shurathing> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/4DpVRZms   Just making sure it didn't get lost in the chat
[09:52] <augustin> hi all
[09:52] <magicianlord> yo
[09:52] <ravi87> hey ppl
[09:52] <ravi87> has any1 tried out gnome shell here
[09:53] <augustin> I have a question regarding installing Ubuntu to an external HD drive from a running Ubuntu system, could someone point me in the right direction to look for an answer?
[09:53] <StaRetji> folks, I have tablet pc, asus r2h, and crazy thinks that headphones are plugged in. Can someone help me out please
[09:53] <shurathing> all: using the tab key doesn't auto complete any names... just gives a huge list of matches
[09:53] <erUSUL> augustin: i would help if you actually make said question ...
[09:53] <augustin> all I can find requires you to boot on a CD or stick
[09:53] <baggu_arain> somebody know how can i do this
[09:53] <ngirard__> ilovefairuz, could you please tell me what's the result for    find /etc/polkit-1/localauthority -type f ?
[09:53] <bloodysuicides> hii
[09:53] <ngirard__> ilovefairuz, on your machine ^ ?
[09:54] <augustin> erUSUL, well, that's the question : how do you install Ubuntu on an external HD drive from a running system?
[09:54] <gaza1> Hi. I have removed (by mistake) sound volume changer. How can I get it back?
[09:54] <gaza1> on panel.
[09:54] <thune3> shurathing: a connection attempt is made and fails, or you aren't given option to conntect. For a failing connection, it would be nice to see the tail of dmesg output after a connection failure. "tail -n 100 | pastebinit -"
[09:54] <ilovefairuz> ngirard__: no such file
[09:54] <erUSUL> augustin: why not use the installer cd ? ( just make sure you install grub in the right drive )
[09:54] <erUSUL> !install | augustin
[09:54] <trijntje> gaza1, place the idicator-applet on the panel again
[09:55] <shurathing> thune3: kk... I'll start on that
[09:55] <Sevith> !info scapy
[09:55] <thune3> shurathing: sorry: dmesg | tail -n 100 | pastebinit -
[09:55] <erUSUL> augustin: the first link has manyguides
[09:55] <ngirard__> aha, thanks ilovefairuz
[09:55] <ravi87> gnome shell any1?
[09:55] <Sevith> !info python-scapy
[09:55] <bloodysuicides> im soo confused
[09:55] <bloodysuicides> you people sound all smart and junk
[09:55] <Sevith> ...
[09:55] <augustin> erUSUL, I have looked there before coming here and it doesn't give a way to install from a running installation onto an external drive
[09:56] <ilovefairuz> !language |  bloodysuicides
[09:56] <StaRetji>  folks, I have tablet pc, asus r2h with ubuntu lucid  and crazy thing thinks that headphones are plugged in. Can someone help me out please. Is there a config where I can tell him they are not plugged in. Thx.
[09:56] <Sevith> lol...
[09:56] <rifter> baggu_arain, yes you can use youtube-dl to download the episodes as mp4 files, then you probably can use a video editor to combine them together
[09:56] <bloodysuicides> ok?
[09:56] <shurathing> thune3: http://pastebin.com/uR6qzEX3     Hope that's what yer asking for, I can't read any of that.
[09:57] <Sevith> bloodysuicides, What do ya need?
[09:57] <rifter> baggu_arain, bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/
[09:57] <bloodysuicides> how do u change what u are known by?
[09:57] <rifter> baggu_arain, if you don't want to use that there are a few web sites that do the same thing as youtube-dl script
[09:57] <baggu_arain> downloading is not an issue
[09:57] <bloodysuicides> nvm
[09:57] <baggu_arain> any software for creating dvd
[09:57] <Sevith> bloodysuicides, if you want to change your name type /nick <name>
[09:58] <magicianlord> brasero burns dvds
[09:58] <erUSUL> augustin: well i would use the livecd with manual partitioning or the guide about installing from knopix ( dbootstrap ) but that is way outdated
[09:58] <rifter> baggu_arain, ok then what you need is video editing softwarethat can understand mp4 or flv files, or something that will convert them to something like jpeg or avi that the editing software can handle
[09:58] <erUSUL> !info devede  | baggu_arain
[09:58] <ilovefairuz> shurathing:  something crashes inside the kernel
[09:58] <rifter> baggu_arain, oh dvd authoring?
[09:58] <rifter> baggu_arain, there is.. I don't have it off the top of my head
[09:59] <trijntje> augustin, cant you use the 'install to usb-disk' option?
[09:59] <ilovefairuz> shurathing: go to #ubuntu-bugs and ask them for help how to file a bug report
[09:59] <shurathing> ilovefairuz: kk
[09:59] <augustin> erUSUL, the thing is: I am using this laptop to work. I want to install Lucid on an external HD while I keep working.
[09:59] <baggu_arain> i try this one
[09:59] <Sevith> hm..
[09:59] <rifter> baggu_arain, this should help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring
[09:59] <augustin> trijntje, I'll double check, thanks for the suggestion
[09:59] <baggu_arain> thnx
[10:00] <mikeru> SLEEP
[10:00] <rifter> so does anyone have an idea about my iptables problem?
[10:00] <augustin> trijntje, as far as i can tell, it requires a LiveCD. Unless I'm missing something, which is why I came here =)
[10:00] <Sevith> rifter,  whats the problem with your iptables?
[10:01] <rifter> I am using FireStarter to control iptables, and have no policy blocking outbound connections.  With the firewall enabled I cannot access www.cartalk.com or bitbucket.org.  With it disabled I can.  Events show the firewall blocking *inbound* connections from the sites but whitelisting them for inbound does not change anything.  any ideas?
[10:01] <ilovefairuz> rifter: firestarter is SO old and probably broken, use (g)ufw
[10:01] <trijntje> augustin: that is not the case, it only requires the .iso. The program to do this is located in system -> Administration -> create startup disk or something like that
[10:01] <rifter> ilovefairuz, ok I will switch to that right quick, but I think the problem is still with iptables not the gui
[10:01] <Sevith> rifter, You should be able to look at the events log and allow from that source?
[10:02] <rifter> Sevith, I did and it did not change anything
[10:02] <rifter> Sevith, plus the events log is only showing that it is blocking inbound connections from those sites, not outbound
[10:02] <Sevith> rifter, maybe gowith ilovefairuz's idea then...Try using (g)ufw
[10:03] <Sevith> ilovefairuz, Do you use ufw?
[10:03] <rifter> Sevith, I am switching to that now.. gotta install it right quick
[10:03] <ilovefairuz> Sevith: yes
[10:03] <i_am_deviant> well, got it
[10:03] <augustin> trijntje, thanks a bunch, i'll go look there
[10:03] <augustin> and thank you, erUSUL
[10:03] <i_am_deviant> would anyone pastebin for me output from: dpkg --listfiles $(dpkg -S `which tunctl` | sed 's/:.*//')
[10:03] <erUSUL> augustin: np
[10:03] <Kwpolska> Anyonee there using pentagram cerberus P 6331-42?
[10:03] <i_am_deviant> ^^ you must have installed tunctl providing package
[10:04] <ilovefairuz> rifter: purge firestarter to make sure all config files are gone
[10:04] <trijntje> augustin, if you do choose to install it using the live CD, be SURE to modify where grub is installed in the 'details' section of the installation. If you do not set this it will overwrite the grub on your system
[10:04] <Sevith> ilovefairuz, Where is the ufw log located?
[10:04] <shurathing> ilovefairuz: KK... Thanks for your help.
[10:04] <rifter> ilovefairuz, okey doing that also
[10:04] <augustin> trijntje, yes, thank you =)
[10:04] <trijntje> augustin, ok, good luck!
[10:04] <ilovefairuz> Sevith: it logs to kern.log
[10:05] <Sevith> ilovefairuz, ok thxy :D
[10:05]  * erUSUL that's why i do not use ufw ...
[10:06] <Kwpolska> erUSUL: don't use /me without real action.
[10:06] <Sevith> ilovefairuz, I cant drop silentlywith ufw ? :(
[10:06]  * erUSUL thinks "that's why i do not use ufw ..."
[10:06] <ilovefairuz> erUSUL: all iptable-based stuff uses standard logs unless you write your own syslog.conf
[10:06] <erUSUL> ilovefairuz: ulog
[10:07] <Sevith> erUSUL, Which firewall do you use?
[10:07] <ilovefairuz> Sevith: ufw logging off
[10:07] <rifter> ilovefairuz, okay I installed gufw and purged firestarter .. gufw didn't show up in the menu, or I can't find it, but I can add it later.  I have it started and it is pretty sparse
[10:07] <erUSUL> Sevith: firehol
[10:07] <erUSUL> Sevith: it has no gui though
[10:07] <StaRetji> my tablet, he thinks earphones are plugged in and wont output sound on internal speaker :/
[10:07] <rifter> ilovefairuz, and I still can't get to either site
[10:07] <Sevith> erUSUL, I like no GUIs  :D
[10:08] <rifter> ilovefairuz, isn't there a file somewhere where iptables keeps its blacklists? maybe I have these ips in that file
[10:08] <ilovefairuz> rifter: sudo iptables -L
[10:08] <MaRk-I> !sound | StaRetji
[10:08] <Kwpolska> a network crashed?
[10:08] <Sevith> Netsplit perhaps?
[10:09] <Kwpolska> Sevith: nope
[10:09] <Sevith> :|
[10:09] <Kwpolska> netsplit has another message
[10:09] <Sevith> oh
[10:09] <Sevith> Probably says netsplit lol
[10:09] <Sevith> :)
[10:09] <Kwpolska> and all splitters are listed at once in my client
[10:09] <ilovefairuz> rifter: run it using alt + f2?
[10:09] <Kwpolska> Sevith: yes, twice.
[10:10] <Kwpolska> *.net *.split - that's the quit message for netsplits.
[10:10] <magicianlord> does anyone recommend gnupod for cli ipod management?
[10:10] <rifter> ilovefairuz, ok I am doingthat now.  the reason I suggest that is that I remember that awhile back I tried to take a list of a bunch of ips that seems to be continually scanning and throw them into that blacklist
[10:10] <ilovefairuz> rifter: you probably need to restart networking
[10:11] <Tricks> alright guys, I have tried to change the default ssh port from 22. I have edited /etc/ssh/ssh_config and reloaded sshd but the changes didn't seem to take effect. I then rebooted but still nothing
[10:11] <Tricks> any ideas?
[10:11] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[10:11] <Kwpolska> anyone knows how to configure pentagram cerberus for port fw
[10:11] <rifter> ilovefairuz, maybe... I am getting a long list of block rules.  when I added them I did not add them through firestarter I added them through iptables.  I am pretty sure I added them to some config file for iptables
[10:11] <ilovefairuz> traviscline: sshd_config
[10:11] <ilovefairuz> Tricks: ^
[10:11] <soreau> Tricks: Why are you trying to change it?
[10:12] <Tricks> soreau, because I have two servers within the internal network and I need to access both
[10:12] <Tricks> soreau, so one will be on port 22 and the other will need to be different
[10:12] <fariadantes> hi - on Ubuntu, is it possible to create a systemwide macro which would allow me to type certain chracters with key combinations?
[10:12] <soreau> Tricks: ok then what ilovefairuz said ;)
[10:13] <Kwpolska> fariadantes: do you want something like alt+numpad on The Wrong OS?
[10:13] <ngirard__> I'm trying to fix my policykit-related problems on 10.04. As ngirard (belinging to admin group) I tried to execute: pkexec echo ok ; this triggers the authentication dialog box ; when i enter the password & click the damn button it just hangs. What's the problem ?
[10:13] <rifter> ilovefairuz, aha  /etc/sysconfig/iptables
[10:13] <fariadantes> Kwpolska: I think so
[10:13] <Kwpolska> fariadantes: gnome and kde provide good replacement
[10:13] <fariadantes> Kwpolska: which are?
[10:13] <rifter> ilovefairuz, no that's not the right file :(
[10:13] <ilovefairuz> rifter: firestarter probably auto-generated this
[10:13] <Kwpolska> ctrl+shift+u+numbers above qwertyuiop
[10:14] <Kwpolska> they're different that on The Wrong OS
[10:14] <rifter> ilovefairuz, well like I said I did not add those blocks through firestarter
[10:14] <fariadantes> Kwpolska: Let me try
[10:14] <wiehan> Hi folks, please tell me how to quickly check what version graphics driver I have installed. My netbook has a intel 945GSE chipset..
[10:14] <magicianlord> What is a working iPod shuffle CLI-only music manager?
[10:14] <ilovefairuz> rifter: it generates a shell file that invokes iptables, not sure where does it save it
[10:14] <Kwpolska> ঙ #999 - example.
[10:14] <rifter> ilovefairuz, I did it from the terminal, and i think I did it by editing a file
[10:14] <N-S[X1]> Good morning. What does it mean, when doing an 'apt-get upgrade', it barfs this: "The following packages has been held back: linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae"
[10:14] <N-S[X1]> What can I do about that?
[10:14] <Kwpolska> fariadantes: can also work from DISABLED numpad.
[10:15] <rifter> ilovefairuz, that iptables -L is still going.. I guess I added a lot of ip addresses to it
[10:15] <Tricks> ah I used the wrong config file :S I feel dumb
[10:15] <Kwpolska> N-S[X1]: sudo aptitude update
[10:15] <Kwpolska> N-S[X1]: sudo aptitude upgrade
[10:15] <Tricks> thanks soreau ilovefairuz
[10:15] <erUSUL> N-S[X1]: maybe the mirror sync process is still going and a package is still missing
[10:15] <ilovefairuz> rifter: you can use -n to show numerical IP addresses
[10:15] <wiehan> Kwpolska: I get the same thing, why is that, and why should I use aptitude over apt-get?
[10:15] <magicianlord> N-S[X1]: do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" instead. it will bring in the newer kernel too
[10:15] <kryl> I have a problem with last nvidia driver and 10.04 I can't use FN keys for luminosity of my laptop (t510i thinkpad)
[10:15] <erUSUL> N-S[X1]: wait and if the problem persist. ask again
[10:16] <fariadantes> Kwpolska: can you give me an example combination?
[10:16] <geirha> fariadantes: ctrl+shift+u 00fe <space>
[10:16] <Kwpolska> wiehan: aptitude handles deps better
[10:16] <geirha> fariadantes: You only need to hold down ctrl and shift when you hit the u
[10:16] <wiehan> How do I check what graphics driver I have installed on my system?
[10:16] <Kwpolska> fariadantes: you can find lots of combinations over the inet
[10:16] <jasonwryan> wiehan: lshw
[10:16] <geirha> fariadantes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters
[10:17] <N-S[X1]> Kwpolska: ok, will try
[10:17] <fariadantes> geirha: thanks
[10:17] <N-S[X1]> erUSUL: I've encountered this several times.
[10:17] <Kwpolska> — 2014
[10:17] <erUSUL> N-S[X1]: i was already mentioned. if the issue persist you can try a dist-upgrade
[10:17] <schnux> I installed plymouth-themes, but how can I configure which theme I want?
[10:17] <N-S[X1]> magicianlord: That sounds a bit drastic. I did that already a long time ago, so I'm already at 10.4.
[10:18] <N-S[X1]> ok
[10:18] <erUSUL> N-S[X1]: dist-upgrade is not change distribution. it differs from safe-upgrade and upgrade in the way it handles dependency resolving
[10:18] <ilovefairuz> schultmc: sudo plymouth-set-default-theme THEMENAME --rebuild-initrd
[10:19] <schnux> ahh i try, thank you :)
[10:19] <N-S[X1]> erUSUL: ok, thank you. Using aptitude pulled them in.
[10:19] <magicianlord> N-S[X1]: it will just stop the message and keep you at 10.04's current kernel
[10:19] <N-S[X1]> ok
[10:21] <wiehan> I get this error when running freeorion (game): There is no solution on the net and seems to be a graphics driver issue:
[10:21] <wiehan> "do_wait: drmWaitVBlank returned -1, IRQs don't seem to be working correctly.
[10:21] <wiehan> Try adjusting the vblank_mode configuration parameter.
[10:21] <wiehan> Segmentation fault"
[10:21] <FloodBot1> wiehan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <erUSUL> wiehan: what graphic driver?
[10:22] <N-S[X1]> Thank you everyone.
[10:22] <wiehan> intel 945GSE
[10:22] <rifter> ilovefairuz, okay I still haven't figured out what file I edited before to update iptables.  what I did never showed up in firestarter and it certainly isn't showing up in gufw .. but this rule seems to be relevant to the network in question: LSI        all  --  184.0.0.0/8          cpe-70-114-208-0.austin.res.rr.com/20
[10:23] <rifter> ilovefairuz, I can put the whole iptables -L in pastebin if you want it
[10:23] <erUSUL> wiehan: there is #intel-gfx here in freenode. tried "Try adjusting the vblank_mode configuration parameter.
[10:23] <erUSUL> wiehan: yet ?
[10:23] <wiehan> erUSUL: I want to update from the website: http://edc.intel.com/Software/Downloads/IEGD/#archive-content=archive-toggle~~visible-content but there is not "ubuntu" specific driver, can you check I there is one I can try
[10:24] <ilovefairuz> rifter: so you address these rules yourself not firestarter ?
[10:24] <wiehan> erUSUL: Yes, I did try doing that with a program called driconf and to no avail...
[10:24] <ilovefairuz> rifter: well use grep on etc to search by ip or hostname
[10:24] <root> こんにちは！
[10:25] <ilovefairuz> !jp | root
[10:25] <Guest97007> hallo!
[10:25] <ilovefairuz> !hi | Guest97007
[10:25] <rifter> ilovefairuz, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470613/
[10:26] <Guest97007> i lov hedgehog
[10:26] <rifter> ilovefairuz, yes I entered them somewhere myself because I was trying to block a whole lot of ip addresses at the time
[10:26] <Guest97007> hacked by hedgehog
[10:26] <Guest97007> bye!
[10:26] <ilovefairuz> rifter: did you grep ?
[10:28] <tuxpengu1n> hi all - I have a bunch of installed kernels in my grub.cfg and I wanted to know how i can remove older installed kernels from my Lucid box? Also, whenever I start up my ubuntu laptop I never see the grub menu presenting a list of kernels i can boot into ... can this be changed?
[10:30] <erUSUL> tuxpengu1n: use synaptic to remove older kernels. is good practice to have at least two kernels ( in case something goes wrong with one of them)
[10:30] <ilovefairuz> rifter: if you would like to remove the block for now, use iptables --line-numbers -L and then use iptables -D NR ((use-line-number-of-host-here))
[10:30] <ilovefairuz> rifter: but next time you reboot, the block will be reinstated
[10:30] <rifter> ilovefairuz, well, I tried grepping for drop and for one of the ip addresses .. I found config files but not necessarily with the rules in question.. I wonder if the file got wiped when I did the purge
[10:31] <rifter> ilovefairuz, how do I restart the iptables?
[10:31] <tuxpengu1n> erUSUL: makes perfect sense, synaptic it is then at least until I understand how to use apt-get or dpkg to query a list of installed kernels so I can then do something like dpkg -r kernel.example in the future. Thank you :)
[10:31] <ilovefairuz> rifter: sudo service iptables restart
[10:31] <magicianlord> tuxpengu1n: use synaptic to search for linux-image. also, in terminal type 'uname -a' to list your currrent kernel. remove the older ones prior to it with synaptic (complete removal)
[10:32] <ilovefairuz> rifter: grep just for the hostname, no 'drop'
[10:32] <rifter> ilovefairuz, I get "iptables: unrecognized service"
[10:32] <wiehan> Can someone check here: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2010Q2.html - how should I know whether I should install the 2d or 3d driver for intel 945GSE on ubuntu 10.04 netbook
[10:33] <ke1ha> tuxpengu1n, as erUSUL saihttp://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/17/remove-ubuntu-kernels-you-dont-need
[10:33] <rifter> ilovefairuz, I grepped for the ip address separately and then when that revealed nothing I did a grep for drop to see if I could find a file with the rules in it
[10:33] <ke1ha> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/17/remove-ubuntu-kernels-you-dont-need/
[10:33] <erUSUL> wiehan: if you want to try with newer drivers it is better option to use the xorg-updates ppa
[10:33] <erUSUL> !ppa | wiehan
[10:34] <rifter> ilovefairuz, what does LSI mean in that output anyway?
[10:34] <tuxpengu1n> ke1ha: great resource. bookmarked. cheers :)
[10:35] <ilovefairuz> rifter: it's a custom chain
[10:35] <shurathing> thune3: Ok... I found what the issue is. Security is fine, but I had mac address filtering enabled on the router. I have filtering disabled and security on and I'm now wireless!
[10:36] <shurathing> thune3: but the mac address matched this computer, so I don't know what would have gotten in the way
[10:37] <mallchin> hi, anyone using bind9 in a chroot and not using apparmor? I am having problems with rndc
[10:37] <mallchin> rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
[10:37] <thune3> shurathing: i'm glad it's mostly working
[10:38] <erUSUL> wiehan: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[10:38] <rifter> ilovefairuz, if I could restart iptables I would know if it's a phantom or not
[10:39] <shurathing> thune3: thank you for your help... I never would have thought a security feature would get in the way like that. I'm off to see if there's a solution to this now. You have a good night.
[10:40] <ilovefairuz> rifter: did you use fwbuilder?
[10:40] <ilovefairuz> at some point of time
[10:40] <shurathing> ilovefairuz: Have wireless working, it was the mac address filtering on the router (but the mac addy matched). So I'm going to find a way around this. Have a great night and thanks for your help and patience!
[10:40] <rifter> ilovefairuz, I believe I did try using fwbuilder at some point and I still have it installed.  I didn't use it to add these rules though
[10:40] <frey4u> hi
[10:41] <ilovefairuz> rifter: why have it installed?
[10:41] <ilovefairuz> !hi | frey4u
[10:41] <j_a_v_i_e_r> ¿?
[10:42] <j_a_v_i_e_r> hello
[10:42] <ilovefairuz> rifter: it's not about restarting iptables (iptables -F will clean everything) it's about where these rules are coming from
[10:42] <ilovefairuz> !hi | j_a_v_i_e_r
[10:42] <j_a_v_i_e_r> this chat is in english or spanish?
[10:42] <rifter> ilovefairuz, well to be honest I was trying to find a gui interface to iptables that would work, and I installed that because it was one of the things that was listed somewhere.  that's when I ended up settling on firestarter
[10:42] <ilovefairuz> !es | j_a_v_i_e_r
[10:42] <rifter> ilovefairuz, I know that but we may have wiped the file the rules are coming from
[10:43] <balthus> tuxpengu1n: why would you like to see the grub menu each time you boot your computer?
[10:43] <rifter> ilovefairuz, and if I could restart iptables I would know that
[10:43] <shurathing> thune3: by the bye... This was a fresh install with backports. There are a lot of updates available in Update Manager. Will updating destroy my drivers? If I update and can't see networks do I download the backport again?
[10:43] <rifter> ilovefairuz, but service command doesn't seem to know about iptables so that did not work, and it's not in /etc/init.d
[10:43] <j_a_v_i_e_r> no it doesnt
[10:43] <ilovefairuz> rifter: try restarting networking
[10:44] <ilovefairuz> rifter: restarting the machine would be the only way to be sure that these rules don't get reinstated
[10:44] <rifter> ilovefairuz, okey I will do that and see what happens as soon as this latest -L finishes
[10:44] <j_a_v_i_e_r> it wont destroy your drivers the update manager
[10:44] <drcode> hi all
[10:45] <drcode> what up
[10:45] <thune3> shurathing: i'm not 100% sure. Upgrade should not cause any problems. If it does then reinstall the backports package.
[10:45] <ilovefairuz> !ot | drcode
[10:45] <drcode> is there free linux ubuntu hosting?
[10:45] <drcode> any idea?
[10:45] <j_a_v_i_e_r> believe me it doesnt
[10:45] <rifter> ilovefairuz, yeah good point.  if I restart the machine and the rules are still there, we would know there was a file somewhere we need to find
[10:45] <brorjonas> By disabling the fglrx driver, am I using the open source drivers automagically?
[10:45] <drcode> I am looking for online server hosting
[10:45] <balthus> tuxpengu1n: the grub menu doesn't show up because your computer probably has only one operating system
[10:45] <shurathing> thune3: Awesome. will do. And I'm naming a couple of kids after you for this! :)
[10:45] <rifter> ilovefairuz, I will let that command finish, save the results, and try it
[10:45] <frey4u> i am using ubuntu 10.04. I am having two user set up one is normal user login and another is domain user login. normal user is loging in good. but domain user asks for password several times by throwing the error Authentication failure. Then i get into my local user login and started /etc/init.d/lassad start and now when i come to my domain users login it went correct. How to solve it without starting the "lassad " every time.
[10:46] <ilovefairuz> rifter: purge  fwbuilder
[10:46] <shurathing> Night all!!
[10:47] <j_a_v_i_e_r> well
[10:47] <ilovefairuz> !who | j_a_v_i_e_r
[10:47] <j_a_v_i_e_r> my problem is with the dolphin-emu
[10:47] <j_a_v_i_e_r> aaa ok
[10:47] <rifter> ilovefairuz, ok doing that now.  btw the line numbers on that -L restart for each block .. I will reboot and see what the rules say then
[10:47] <rifter> ilovefairuz, thank you for your help I will be back
[10:48] <ilovefairuz> rifter: good luck
[10:48] <frey4u> i am using ubuntu 10.04. I am having two user set up one is normal user login and another is domain user login. normal user is loging in good. but domain user asks for password several times by throwing the error Authentication failure. Then i get into my local user login and started /etc/init.d/lsassd start and now when i come to my domain users login it went correct. How to solve it without starting the "lsassd " every time.
[10:48] <ilovefairuz> !patience | frey4u
[10:49] <frey4u> sorry everybody
[10:49] <balthus> tuxpengu1n: one way to see the grub menu once, is to press the SHIFT key during boot
[10:49] <D3bian> hey all
[10:50] <D3bian> anyone know how the hell to install ssl support for bitchx?
[10:50] <dzioniux> Hello, what tools to use to connect to a nokia E72 phone
[10:50] <balthus> tuxpengu1n: (if you are still using grub legacy, the key is ESC instead)
[10:51] <j_a_v_i_e_r> ubottu, sorry by the question, but how i manage to send a message to a concrete person?
[10:52] <frey4u> i  spent 4 hours to fix it. and that too am not happy
[10:52] <ilovefairuz> j_a_v_i_e_r: what's your problem ?
[10:52] <tuxpengu1n> balthus: noted - oddly enough I used startup-manager to set the 'Timeout' to 10 seconds which only shows a blank black screen for 10 seconds instead of a selectable list of 2 kernels I have installed. I will try Shift though, thanks!
[10:53] <j_a_v_i_e_r> for example, if i would want to send a message to you, i have to click in your name or how?
[10:53] <ka__> Hi. I have a server I want to update files to. But I can't install rsync to it. I am wondering how I can use the cp command with ssh to update my files on the server. something like: ssh username@server | cp -uvr /localfolder /serverfolder/
[10:53] <ilovefairuz> D3bian: the package doesn't seem to be available after dapper but its name is bitchx-ssl
[10:54] <ilovefairuz> ka__: scp
[10:54] <msadmn> ka__ scp?
[10:54] <D3bian> yeah, I've been looking for it
[10:54] <D3bian> thanks ilovefairuz, I'm gonna see if I can do it another way
[10:54] <ka__> SCP doesn't allow me to only upload the files that are missing or have changed...
[10:54] <ilovefairuz> D3bian: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/bitchx-ssl
[10:55] <iceroot> D3bian: bitchx is no longer supported, stopped long time ago
[10:55] <D3bian> :(
[10:55] <iceroot> D3bian: use irssi instead
[10:55] <D3bian> I am still using it
[10:55] <D3bian> wanted to add ssl to it
[10:55] <ilovefairuz> ka__: you can use git or mercurial to sync stuff over ssh
[10:55] <D3bian> Will have to learn to use irssi then :(
[10:55] <balthus> tuxpengu1n: hmm, I didn't know that startupmanager package, i usally simply edit the conf file
[10:55] <tuxpengu1n> balthus: well it looks to be related specifically to Grub2 according to the documentation this is normal grub2 behaviour unless /etc/default/grub is modified
[10:55] <ilovefairuz> D3bian: try weechat
[10:56] <D3bian> also textbased?
[10:56] <iceroot> D3bian: there are no security fixes anymore for bitchx, so have a look at irssi, which is still supported and THE client for the cli
[10:56] <ilovefairuz> D3bian: yes
[10:57] <ke1ha> ka__, can you not use rsync ?
[10:57] <balthus> tuxpengu1n: the file /etc/default/grub is indeed the one that needs to be looked into
[10:58] <ka__> ke1ha, No I cant install it on the server as I don't have root access...
[10:58] <rifter> ilovefairuz, well that did it.. apparently when we purged firestarter it blew away the file with those rules in it, which is why I coudl not find them
[10:59] <balthus> tuxpengu1n: my guess is that startupmanager changes in that file the variable GRUB_TIMEOUT
[10:59] <ke1ha> ka__, ah, that's a bummer, as rsync rocks for that.
[10:59] <ka__> can rsync run from a folder on the server?
[10:59] <ilovefairuz> rifter: aha
[11:00] <ka__> ke1ha, yeah it's really what I would want to use...
[11:00] <ke1ha> ka__, you can get rsync to run in a jail-shell yes, where only rsync is allowed, no straight SSH, but normally, if SSH is allowed, rsync is already there.
[11:00] <rifter> ilovefairuz, so now I have a clean slate.  I will have to add the ports I had allowed before, but i will puzzle that out.  I should have noted them before purging firestarter, but no big deal there
[11:01] <rifter> ilovefairuz, and I will have to add gufw to the menu.. too bad it did not do that on its own
[11:01] <balthus> tuxpengu1n: is the variable GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT commented out in /etc/default/grub?
[11:01] <ke1ha> ka__, it's odd that the server would have SCP & SSH and not rsync.
[11:01] <ka__> It's a godaddy server. typing rsync in the shell after ssh ing into the sever yields: no such command...
[11:02] <ke1ha> ka__, you could ask then to install it, would certainly save them BW and it's secure.
[11:02] <brian98> Morning all
[11:02] <brian98> Quick question, I am using software raid5 on 10.04 - updated recently and got an error about grub. Should it be installed on all disks?
[11:02] <rifter> ilovefairuz, but now I know what firewall software is supported and am using it.. so that is a great help thank you very much
[11:03] <brian98> Afraid to reboot now :) Server is in a datacentre
[11:03] <ilovefairuz> ka__: http://oreilly.com/pub/h/38
[11:03] <ka__> yeah I have asked. But it's requires an upsell...
[11:03] <ke1ha> ka__, ah, mo-money :-)
[11:03] <ilovefairuz> ka__: you can compile an instance to your home directory
[11:03] <nogrill> who here might help with a windowmanager problem?
[11:04] <msadmn> brian98 : did you mirror the boot disks?
[11:04] <ilovefairuz> rifter: you're welcome and it's a bad idea to mix firewalls, use only one at a time
[11:04] <msadmn> oh raid5, ignore.
[11:04] <ke1ha> ilovefairuz, I'd be interested in that one.
[11:04] <An_Ony_Moose> I just installed a new graphics card and gdm won't start, giving the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470629/
[11:04] <ilovefairuz> !details | nogrill
[11:05] <brian98> msadmn /boot is /dev/md1
[11:06] <nutzer> hi
[11:06] <msadmn> brian98: i know grub an complain in raid1 when linux doesnt mirror the boot disks, but that wouldnt make sense in raid5. you can run gru from the cli though
[11:06] <rifter> ilovefairuz, yeah I did not realize I was doing  that .. but even just mixing frontends would be inadvisable
[11:07] <ke1ha> ilovefairuz, do you have a How-Too for compiling rsync in the remote /home dir ?
[11:08] <sanduz2> how do i stop apache (or other things) from starting automatically?
[11:08] <nogrill> I have the problem that i wanted to switch from Metacity to Mutter and may now no longer boot up to ubuntu 10.04 I do get a startup but when I try to log in, the screen goes black and I end up on the start screen again.
[11:08] <ilovefairuz> ke1ha: i haven't tried it (i'm a DSCM man) but why would it be different than any other source? just use a custom --prefix
[11:08] <An_Ony_Moose> I just installed a new graphics card and gdm won't start, giving the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470629/ - can anyone explain this? Does it mean that the X server isn't working correctly?
[11:08] <brian98> msadmn: I will paste the error into the pastebin that I got when I apt-get upgrade ..d
[11:08] <msadmn> check out update-rc.d
[11:09] <nfzambrano> Does anyone here could help me change an encrypted home directory user password in Ubuntu 10.04? I have tried in "About me" but does not work. Neither seemed to work in Ubuntu 9.10
[11:09] <brian98> msadmn: This is what came up when updating http://paste.ubuntu.com/470633/
[11:09] <ke1ha> ilovefairuz, I'd think he'd not have access to the compiler on a remote hosted web server, unless its a VPS or something.
[11:11] <ilovefairuz> ke1ha: then compile locally and (and use static linking if needed)
[11:11] <ilovefairuz> ^ and upload it
[11:11] <ke1ha> That's an interesting Idea.
[11:11] <motzmo> azh xchat gluchit
[11:11] <motzmo> ept
[11:11] <motzmo> loool
[11:11] <ilovefairuz> ke1ha: it's what I do with ffmpeg on lousy web hots
[11:12] <Quasic> Can anyone tell me if you can ssh from a ubuntu clien to a windows client?
[11:12] <motzmo> ssh from client to client, nice
[11:12] <ilovefairuz> Quasic: to a windows machine? it should be running an ssh server not a client
[11:12] <msadmn> brian98: did you use a disk?
[11:12] <msadmn> s/use/lose. so not with it today
[11:12] <ke1ha> Im going tolok into that further.
[11:13] <Quasic> Ah so I need to set up a ssh server on the windows machine
[11:13] <DASPRiD> ssh on windows?
[11:13] <DASPRiD> now that sounds kinky
[11:13] <balthus> Quasic: you need a ssh server on at least on side, easiest way should be to install the server on the linux side
[11:13] <ilovefairuz> Quasic: yes, there are SSH servers for windows
[11:14] <wild_oscar> I upgraded to lucid and I've got an odd issue: on login, the volume control doesn't work very well. scroll wheel will make  "indicator applet has quit unexpectedly - reload". right clicking (before mouse-wheel) will display a small empty box and not the volume
[11:14] <wild_oscar> any idea why?
[11:14] <brian98> msadmn: No, all disks are still accessible, the arrays are all still working. I'm just concerned that if I need to reboot this box it ain't gonna boot. I can't find any definitive info on where grub2 should be installed when using RAID5 software array
[11:14] <ke1ha> sudo apt-get install openssh-server...job done fer Linux, Windows, not sure about.
[11:14] <Quasic> thing is i want to be able access my box from home and the one from work .. the one from work uses windows and at home i use ubuntu
[11:14] <Quasic> so to go 2 ways i need server on both?
[11:15] <An_Ony_Moose> yes Quasic
[11:15] <ilovefairuz> Quasic: yes
[11:15] <Quasic> I see
[11:15] <Quasic> thanks for the info
[11:15] <msadmn> brian98: yeah youve lostgrub from your disks. youll need to set it back up again. use grom from the cli
[11:16] <brian98> msadmn: grub you mean :) ? And what disks do I install it on? Does it go on the /boot which is part of the array and on the physical disks also?
[11:17] <balthus> Quasic: or you could a reverse SSH tunnel, see http://www.marksanborn.net/howto/bypass-firewall-and-nat-with-reverse-ssh-tunnel/
[11:17] <ilovefairuz> !grub2 | brian98
[11:18] <balthus> Quasic: btw it might be the only solution if your computer at work is behing NAT/firewall which is probably the case
[11:18] <wiehan> Hi people, how can I change which graphics driver Ubuntu uses for my graphics chipset, I have installed a letr version, but I still see with lshw that ubuntu is using the old driver.. please help me
[11:19] <Quasic> Will give that a try also balthus, thanks
[11:19] <rifter> Quasic, the easiest way to get ssh server on windows is to use cygwin
[11:19] <msadmn> brian98: im not drunk, i promise ;) just distracted. you need to install grum to your primary disk. you can do this via the cmd line, using 'grub' command. you need to iirc, specify device, setup etc - if you dont kknow which it is, put it on all of them.
[11:19] <balthus> Quasic: you're welcome
[11:19] <rifter> Quasic, you can install just openssh with cygwin or you can install whatever else
[11:19] <brian98> msadmn: so I will do them all, thats what I was unsure of.
[11:20] <brian98> msadmn: And no worries on the drunkenness :)
[11:20] <brian98> msadmn: Thanks for your time
[11:20] <nogrill> problem about the console-mode is that there is no network because i get no access to wlan so an apt-get is no option
[11:21] <Quasic> cygwin is a winblows emulator?
[11:21] <wiehan> how can I change which graphics driver ubuntu uses
[11:21] <balthus> !tab
[11:21] <Quasic> linux i mean*
[11:21] <quiescens> cygwin is a posix environment for windows
[11:22] <ilovefairuz> balthus: reverse tunneling requires  3 machines
[11:22] <ke1ha> I tried that Cygwin install, both Client and Server at home, and it's a bit tested to get running properly.
[11:22] <ilovefairuz> Quasic: just google "windows ssh server"
[11:22] <ke1ha> oops a bit testy ..
[11:23] <ilovefairuz> you'll find a few
[11:23] <rifter> ilovefairuz, sorry to bug you again, but I am looking at screenshots for gufw and what I have seems to be missing stuff .. I have gufw 9.10.4-0ubuntu1  on this page they show a dropdown for default outgoing policy but I don't have that http://gufw.tuxfamily.org/  and this page has even more stuff that I seem to be missing but the other is the gufw page http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gufw-simple-gui-for-ufw-uncomplicated-firewall.html
[11:23] <schnux> wiehan, jockey-gtk ? backup of xorg.conf with other settings ?
[11:23] <ke1ha> http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/
[11:23] <rifter> ilovefairuz, I uninstalled and reinstalled gufw but it is the same, and it did not add the menu item either but I can do that manually once I figure out an icon for it
[11:23] <jrib> Quasic: try ##windows
[11:24] <ilovefairuz> rifter: i'll brb
[11:24] <sepidev> Why everything (GUI Apps) in ubuntu 10.10 works 30% to 50% slower than the normal situation. Is is a X11 bug?
[11:25] <jrib> !10.10 | sepidev
[11:26] <rifter> ilovefairuz, aha I found the menu they moved it
[11:26] <ke1ha> I don't know about 10.10, but 10.04 is working sweet after a few tweaks.
[11:26] <sepidev> i know, and i wanted to play with the beta release, but it seems there are some serious bugs in it...
[11:27] <jrib> sepidev: especially read the last thing ubottu said
[11:27]  * D3bian smacks irssi
[11:27] <D3bian> damn it
[11:27] <balthus> ilovefairuz: well reverse tunneling does not actually require a third computer. The middlle computer can simply be the same as the target one contrary to what is written in the link i have given previouly.
[11:27] <D3bian> set use_ssl does not exist :(
[11:27] <Misterio> D3bian: Can we help you?
[11:27] <D3bian> :'(
[11:27] <D3bian> reinstalled it, reinstalled OpenSSL
[11:27] <pozic> How can I restart my network configuration using the command line? Via the GUI it is done via NetworkManager, which is easy.
[11:28] <ke1ha> sepidev, there are bound to be bugs until release, and certainly some after as well.
[11:28] <Misterio> D3bian: you want to enable ssl in irssi?
[11:28] <D3bian> I can't for the love of god get SSL active in IRSSI
[11:28] <D3bian> yeah Misterio
[11:28] <pozic> /etc/init.d/networking restart, or restart networking has _no_ effect.
[11:28] <D3bian> would be great if i'd get it to work
[11:28] <D3bian> thanks for wanting to help Misterio :)
[11:28] <Misterio> D3bian: Go to config, search freenode network, and in 'use_ssl = "no"', change it and put yes
[11:29] <Misterio> D3bian: First close irssi, then save file and reopen it
[11:29] <D3bian> I'm on xchat at the moment
[11:29] <D3bian> I want to use ssl on another network
[11:29] <sheepz> can anyone tell me why this doesn't work?
[11:29] <sheepz> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/243016/
[11:29] <Misterio> D3bian: Do the same in all networks you have configured
[11:30] <D3bian> but use_ssl does not exist according to my irssi
[11:30] <Misterio> There is not that option
[11:30] <sheepz> xmodmap:  unable to open display ''
[11:30] <D3bian> ah, kay, stupid me
[11:30] <D3bian> :D
[11:30] <bzrk> hi, anyone familiar with preseeding here?
[11:30] <geirha> sheepz: How are you running it?
[11:31] <sheepz> it's in my .bashrc
[11:31] <schnux> sheepz,  shouldn't there be a condition ?
[11:32] <geirha> sheepz: And you get that error when you open a gnome-terminal?
[11:32] <sheepz> geirha: yes
[11:32] <sheepz> it's taken from here
[11:32] <sheepz> http://www.peterbe.com/Disable-Caps-Lock-in-Linux
[11:32] <FloodBot1> sheepz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <black> hi
[11:33] <GreenMeanie> hey im using Scribes text editor but how do i run my python code now
[11:33] <wiehan> schnux: Hi. sorry for the delay, I tried gtk-jocky but it doesn't show my graphics hardware or drivers. I saw in lshw that ubuntu is using driver=agpgart-intel driver but I have installed the latest intel drivers from a PPA repository (intel-somethin 2.12) How do I select that do be the driver ubuntu should use
[11:33] <geirha> sheepz: That's odd. For some reason, bash doesn't inherit the DISPLAY environment variable from gnome-terminal, but it should.
[11:33] <soreau> GreenMeanie: python /path/to/script.py ?
[11:33] <black> i am writing my data to cd.I have copied to the disc using open cd dvd  creator.If i click burn.It doesnt seem to take any action.I have also logged in other system
[11:34] <black> can you help me out
[11:34] <soreau> black: Try wodim -v /path/to/image.iso
[11:34] <sheepz> geirha: ok, thanks for the explanation
[11:34] <GreenMeanie> its just a basic "hello world"
[11:34] <black> what does this do
[11:34] <sheepz> but i bet now wouldn't be the best time to test this
[11:34] <sheepz> as i'm using ssh now
[11:34] <black> soreau: ?
[11:35] <balthus> Quasic: you might also consider setting up OpenVPN in multi-client mode on your home computer
[11:35] <An_Ony_Moose> is there a command-line tool to autoconfigure the X server?
[11:35] <geirha> sheepz: Ah, that would explain it.
[11:35] <wiehan>  I tried gtk-jocky but it doesn't show my graphics hardware or drivers. I saw in lshw that ubuntu is using driver=agpgart-intel driver but I have installed the latest intel drivers from a PPA repository (intel-somethin 2.12) How do I select that do be the driver ubuntu should use.
[11:35] <black> Soreau:wodim: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/path/to/image.iso'.
[11:35] <geirha> sheepz: You could change it to: if [[ $PS1 && $DISPLAY ]]; then xmodmap ...
[11:36] <sheepz> ok
[11:36] <soreau> black: You're not supposed to use that command, you're supposed to read it then apply it to your own situation
[11:36] <pozic> How can I restart my network configuration using the command line? Via the GUI it is done via NetworkManager, which is easy.
[11:36] <black> im sorry i m new to linux.could you tell me how to do that
[11:36] <trijntje> pozic, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:37] <black> soreau:?
[11:37] <soreau> black: What are you trying to burn exactly?
[11:37] <black> some code files and html files
[11:38] <black> soreau: i have logged in other systems also with the same account.Would that be a problem?
[11:38] <black> Soreau:http://codepad.org/9hqvaGPi
[11:38] <soreau> black: I really don't know though I'd like to think not. Could introduce a permissions issue possibly
[11:38] <gwern> so I'm working on my crontab, and I wonder - is there any way to easily find whether my laptop's lid is closed or not?
[11:39] <black> soreau:oh
[11:39] <nfzambrano> Does anyone here could help me change an encrypted home directory user password in Ubuntu 10.04? I have tried in "About me" but does not work. Neither seemed to work in Ubuntu 9.10
[11:40] <pozic> nfzambrano: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/579876
[11:40] <pozic> nfzambrano: have you seen that?
[11:40] <gwern> I would think there's some way to ask ACPI whether the lid is closed, since it must know in order to suspend or not
[11:40] <D3bian> 12:40 -!- Irssi: warning SSL handshake failed: unknown protocol
[11:40]  * D3bian sighs
[11:41]  * D3bian kicks machine
[11:41]  * D3bian kicks irssi
[11:41] <antivirtel> hello all, Is there any OCR scan GUI? I've used ABBY Fine Reader in win, what is avaible here?(to gnome)
[11:41] <soreau> black: Maybe try with only one user, if it doesn't work try a completely different app like k3b
[11:41] <thune3> wiehan: maybe check lshw -C display   or  lsmod | grep i915
[11:41] <ilovefairuz> rifter: so you found it?
[11:41] <black> yeah
[11:41] <nfzambrano> poziz no not yet...thanks
[11:41] <gwern> antivirtel: gscan2pdf works more or less
[11:41] <D3bian> Misterio, still not working man
[11:42] <D3bian> I'm about to throw in the towell
[11:42] <D3bian> been on it for days
[11:42] <ilovefairuz> balthus: if there's no middle machine than reversing running is useless since you'd have to run a server on both machines
[11:42] <pozic> antivirtel: you can also use that application probably via wine.
[11:42] <gwern> hm. acpi_listen will print out lid-close when it happens, but only if the lid close happens when it's running
[11:42] <rifter> ilovefairuz, I found where it put itself in the menu, yes, but I still haven't figured out why my version looks like it is missing interfaces ,,, what version do you have
[11:42] <antivirtel> pozic I dont want to "hack" :D
[11:42] <nfzambrano> pozic: no, not yet... thanks
[11:42] <pozic> antivirtel: hack?
[11:43] <antivirtel> with wine is slow, and I doesnt want to use these windows soft
[11:43] <pozic> antivirtel: wine is not slow
[11:43] <rifter> ilovefairuz, it may be that  they changed the interface and notthe docs
[11:43] <pozic> antivirtel: there are benchmarks showing this.
[11:43] <balthus> ilovefairuz: this is not the way i understand reverse ssh, but i may be mistaken
[11:44] <antivirtel> gwern tx, I try it
[11:44] <gwern> aha!
[11:44] <gwern> cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state
[11:44] <ilovefairuz> rifter: i don't use the gui but what's the version listed in the about dialog?
[11:44] <gwern> thanks for nothing google
[11:44] <rifter> ilovefairuz, this is what I said earlier, with links: sorry to bug you again, but I am looking at screenshots for gufw and what I have seems to be missing stuff .. I have gufw 9.10.4-0ubuntu1  on this page they show a dropdown for default outgoing policy but I don't have that http://gufw.tuxfamily.org/  and this page has even more stuff that I seem to be missing but the other is the gufw page http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gufw-simple-gui-for-ufw-uncomplicated-
[11:44] <rifter> firewall.html
[11:44] <FloodBot1> rifter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <sepidev> Is there any problem in Gtk RGBA mode? How can I disable RGBA mode in Gnome Desktop?
[11:44] <jsimmons> having trouble with psb driver, installation described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo but getting module not found when trying to modprobe psb
[11:44] <jsimmons> on 10.04
[11:44] <rifter> ilovefairuz, 9.10.4
[11:44] <gwern> antivirtel: be careful if scanning books - gscan2pdf has some nasty cornercases that can lose or damage your work
[11:45] <ilovefairuz> rifter: running karmic ? these shots seem to be for lucid
[11:45] <antivirtel> gwern here is only 2 pages to scan it :) (now)
[11:45] <Aeon_Dragon> is there a dutch room where i cant ask questions?
[11:46] <ilovefairuz> rifter: check third shot
[11:46] <Aeon_Dragon> can*
[11:46] <gwern> antivirtel: then you should be fine. gscan2pdf is a nice GUI shell, imo. best I've found on gnome/linux
[11:46] <ilovefairuz> !dutch | Aeon_Dragon
[11:46] <rifter> ilovefairuz, okay
[11:46] <trent> wut
[11:47] <_Elnino> need a tool to convert a media file to another
[11:47] <antivirtel> gwern and yeah, it "speaks" my language :D
[11:47] <Aeon_Dragon> thx for the muthc needed info :)
[11:47] <pozic> Something that would scan a book to LaTeX would be nicer.
[11:47] <`ash-> list
[11:47] <`ash-> whoops
[11:47] <rifter> ilovefairuz, ah okay I just wanted to make sure I didn't have the wrong version installed because of some softwaresources thing
[11:47] <pozic> (and with a robot to automatically do the page flipping)
[11:47] <ilovefairuz> _Elnino: ffmpeg
[11:47] <pozic> All of which already basically exists in some form.
[11:48] <rifter> ilovefairuz, seems to be working so far though.. I am looking up how to deal with port ranges but so far so good
[11:48] <_Elnino> ok
[11:48] <_Elnino> i will try that
[11:48] <D3bian> Misterio, found it
[11:49] <gwern> et voila: if [ -n `grep open /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state` ]; then fswebcam --resolution 1280x1024 -S 2 -F 3 ~/photos/webcam/`date \+\%\s`.jpg; fi
[11:49] <D3bian> lol, wrong port
[11:49] <gwern> good old unix shell scripting
[11:49]  * D3bian smacks self
[11:49] <Misterio> D3bian: You need to use port 7000
[11:49] <gwern> pozic: how could a book be scanned to latex? that sounds AI-complete - just basic OCR is hard enough
[11:49] <D3bian> On that network I need to use 7001
[11:49] <D3bian> Thats why it didn't work
[11:49] <D3bian> :D
[11:49] <Misterio> D3bian: 7001 or 7000 (what I am using)
[11:49] <D3bian> typical case of RTFM
[11:50] <pozic> gwern: I don't expect it to do picture mode or advanced stuff, but mathematical formulas and text should be possible.
[11:50] <gwern> text, yes, mathematical formula? nah
[11:51] <pozic> gwern: what would be particularly hard?
[11:51] <pozic> gwern: I think I even would know how to program it without machine learning techniques.
[11:52] <gwern> pozic: all of it. tex shows how hard it is to go from the explicit notation to abstract art (ie. formulas); reversing the process is even worse
[11:52] <balthus> nfzambrano: i don't get what your problem actually is. Is your problem that you don't have the possibility to change your password from the "about me" window? Can't you see the "change password" button?
[11:55] <KrisDouglas> Hello everyone, quick question, I hope. I have an ubuntu machine on a windows network, and I find I am unable to access machines though their hostnames (netbios). I can see them through their IP and windows machines can see others though IP and NetBIOS(hostname)
[11:55] <nfzambrano> balthus: yes, I can see it... but after introduce the new password and click the button, the mouse become a clock and after a long time anything happen (sorry for my bad English)
[12:00] <kishon1> i goofed up my /etc folder... and i'm not able to use "sudo".. is there a way to restore it
[12:00] <antivirtel> gwern it isnt good... it must know this: áéőúóüöűí (hung. lang) but it knows only english chars
[12:00] <nfzambrano> balthus: I did a test. It seems that if you use a very similar password the system rejected it (in a terminal, as if it were the same password), but if you use "about me" you do not get any message!!!!!
[12:00] <JediMaster> hey all, for some reason Xorg/KDM won't start up, been using the machine running Lucid/Kubuntu for months and only had this issue a few times and rebooting normally fixes it, but this time I just can't get Xorg/kdm to start
[12:00] <antivirtel> !ocr
[12:00] <JediMaster> Xorg.0.log shows a fatal error: xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interrupted system call
[12:01] <kishon>  i goofed up my /etc folder... and i'm not able to use "sudo".. is there a way to restore it
[12:01] <KrisDouglas> kishon, your install is quite probably destroyed if the /etc/folder is dead
[12:01] <jrib> kishon: what did you do exactly?
[12:01] <JediMaster> depends what you did to the etc folder and if you have a backup =D
[12:02] <TheEskimo> kishon: You could probably recover it from the ubuntu live cd or the ubuntu alternate install disk, but I am by no means sure or know how.
[12:02] <kishon> I tried to modify /etc/sudoers which the system din't allow. Then i used chmod to change the permissions to 440 after which my sudo command is not working..
[12:03] <bzrk> kishon: boot from rescue cd and undo the changes
[12:03] <jrib> kishon: what exactly did you execute?
[12:03] <|ns|nR8> kishon, recovery mode
[12:04] <kishon> ok.. will try recovery mode and let you know..
[12:04] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm having a bit of a trouble connecting my mobile internet. it is detected as a gsm modem(check in dmesg) but it doesn't show up in ifconfig
[12:04] <jrib> kishon: whether or not you can just use recovery mode depends on what you ran...
[12:06] <JediMaster> anyone good with X? just can't get it to start as of half an hour ago
[12:06] <JediMaster> I think it's bug #441653
[12:07]  * JediMaster was expecting a bot to nicely give the bug url =P
[12:09] <neurochrome> here there folks, how do you put a blank line in a notification message with notify-send? \n doesn't work
[12:11] <kishon> Thanks a lot.. booting in recovery mode helped..
[12:14] <brian98> msadmn: If anyone ever asks you again, grub-install to all physical drives.
[12:18] <rifter> JediMaster, I am reading your bug
[12:18] <rifter> JediMaster, have you tried some of the workarounds they list in there?
[12:19] <JediMaster> rifter, not this time, switching to gdm worked last time, but I switched back to kdm recently
[12:20] <virrus_> всем хай=))
[12:20] <bazhang> !ru | virrus_
[12:20] <TuxSax> neurochrome: I'm not sure why would you want that
[12:20] <rifter> JediMaster, someone also indicates that this bug helped them https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/544590
[12:20] <neurochrome> doh, it's a simple case of using a return character whilst in quotation marks
[12:20] <rifter> JediMaster, well for kdm they suggest making a change to a config file...
[12:20] <TuxSax> but a easy way to overcome it is to write a little text file and then use notify-send test "`cat test.txt`"
[12:21] <neurochrome> TuxSax, to make it more readable
[12:21] <neurochrome> TuxSax, there is no break between the header and main body text
[12:21] <rifter> JediMaster, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/441653/comments/34 he altered /etc/init/kdm.conf and added the sleep command "sleep 1" before the "exec kdm" line.
[12:22] <neurochrome> TuxSax, you don't even need to do that by the looks of things
[12:22] <virrus_> Кто-нить подскажать может почему при перехзагрузки в убунте 10.04 слетают виджеты и гажеты с р.стола?
[12:22] <neurochrome> TuxSax, weird that it doesn't let you use escape characters
[12:22] <rifter> JediMaster, if that fixes it it would seem to me that something isn't getting initialized soon enough in the process
[12:22] <bazhang> virrus_, /join #ubuntu-ru  this is english only
[12:22] <TuxSax> notify-send is quite simple, perhaps too simple, not for writing long text info
[12:22] <karlhunt> When i try to share my internet connection using an ad hoc network in netowrk manager the client machine connecting does not recieve an ip address
[12:22] <TuxSax> you can use zenity for that
[12:23] <TuxSax> but if all you need is to break between first and second line you can just do something like notify-send test first line \second line
[12:24] <neurochrome> TuxSax, Invalid number of options.
[12:24] <TuxSax> neurochrome: my bad, sorry
[12:24] <_Elnino> does anybody know how i can download books from google
[12:24] <rifter> JediMaster, this guy suggests that there is an update to xorg for this problem which makes sense since it would have something to do with driver initialization from the look of it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/441653/comments/42  but meanwhile try the workaround
[12:24] <bazhang> !ot | _Elnino
[12:24] <_Elnino> or any command that i can use
[12:25] <Tniffoc> What is the best usenet client for GNOME?
[12:25] <bazhang> _Elnino, that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:25] <neurochrome> TuxSax, np
[12:25] <neurochrome> Tniffoc, pan
[12:25] <neurochrome> Tniffoc, or sabnzb actually, but it's browser based, still  awesome though
[12:26] <_Elnino> ok, may be i should put it like this, is there any ubuntu tool that can enable me get books from google
[12:26] <lbsconcept> bjr la room
[12:26] <rifter> JediMaster, the other mentioned bug suggests there is a patch to the kernel with package 2.6.32-23.37
[12:26] <rifter> JediMaster, beyond that I am not sure what to suggest
[12:26] <bazhang> _Elnino, that has to do with google; rephrasing wont change it to ubuntu issue.
[12:26] <JediMaster> rifter, I have 2.6.32-24
[12:27] <TuxSax> neurochrome: you can use HTML formatting for that too, and there are some other nice tricks in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1411620
[12:27] <JediMaster> so I guess the kernel patch didn't fix it
[12:27] <neurochrome> TuxSax, cheers!
[12:27] <rifter> JediMaster, yeah .. I would try the sleep workaround then
[12:27] <neurochrome> gotta go, peace
[12:28] <rifter> JediMaster, and hope that fixes to xorg and the kernel come down to help this
[12:28] <lilium_> My ssh server isn't loggin. i have the auth.log file but it's empty. What's the reason for that? it worked in the past and i also have the old logs like auth.log.0
[12:29] <frey4u> i am using ubuntu 10.04. I am having two user set up one is normal user login and another is domain user login. normal user is loging in good. but domain user asks for password several times by throwing the error Authentication failure. Then i get into my local user login and started /etc/init.d/lsassd start and now when i come to my domain users login it went correct. How to solve it without starting the "lsassd " every time.
[12:31] <rifter> lilium_, well you want to check your rsyslog config under /etc/rsyslog.conf and in /etc/rsyslog.d .. /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf sets up auth events to the auth.log but you may have something else in there that is undoing that
[12:32] <niglop> hey i am helping my friend install his first distro, he has wireless but he cant connect to the internet to use aptitude to upgrade his drivers, how can he update his wireless driver manually (or just be able to connect to the internet for that matter)?
[12:32] <bazhang> niglop, which distro
[12:32] <niglop> ubuntu
[12:32] <rifter> lilium_, in your sshd_conf you want to check SyslogFacility and LogLevel
[12:32] <bazhang> niglop, ie which version
[12:32] <niglop> the newest one bazhang  10 or whatever
[12:32] <rifter> lilium_, er /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:33] <bazhang> niglop, what wireless nic
[12:33] <niglop> what is nic?
[12:33] <lilium_> rifter: i have logLevel INFO SyslogFacility AUTH
[12:33] <bazhang> niglop, what wireless card
[12:33] <rifter> lilium_,  SyslogFacility determines what facility sshd tells rsyslog it is using
[12:33] <Khannz> Hello, community. I just finished (I hope) configuring proFTPd to use virtual users, but it still won't log me in. I got prepared AuthUserFile and AuthGroupFile and changed AuthOrder, but 1 thing I can't understand - how I can define permissions for homedirs of my virtual users.
[12:33] <niglop> bazhang:  netgear
[12:33] <rifter> lilium_, ok that should be correct
[12:33] <devilchaos> nic is your wireless card or ethernet card
[12:34] <lilium_> rifter yea but im loggin in with sshd but my auth.log is still empty
[12:34] <bazhang> niglop, lspci in terminal, or if usb then lsusb (and pastebin)
[12:34] <monkey_dust> help
[12:34] <monkey_dust> oops
[12:34] <niglop> bazhang:  how can he pastebin it if he has no internet :p?
[12:34] <devilchaos> monkey_dust:?
[12:34] <monkey_dust> testing irssi, folx
[12:34] <bazhang> niglop, put it on usb stick and put on computer with internet
[12:35] <bazhang> monkey_dust, try #test
[12:35] <rifter> lilium_, well it is probably a problem with rsyslogd then
[12:35] <rifter> lilium_, for instance, do a tail -f /var/log/auth.log in a terminal window
[12:35] <rifter> lilium_, then alt-f2 and login with the wrong password
[12:36] <devilchaos> trying to set up samba and am running through the how-to geek page and it says to add user to /etc/samba/smbusers file but there isnt one any ideas?
[12:36] <rifter> lilium_, if rsyslog is working right you shoudl see something like Jul 29 06:34:53 leviathan login[1596]: FAILED LOGIN (1) on '/dev/tty2' FOR 'teddy', Authentication failure
[12:36] <KrisDouglas> JediMaster, have you recently updated to a new kernel
[12:36] <niglop> ok one sec bazhang  i will hl you when im done
[12:36] <KrisDouglas> JediMaster, have you recently updated to a new kernel?
[12:36] <Khannz> Hello, community. I just finished (I hope) configuring proFTPd to use virtual users, but it still won't log me in. I got prepared AuthUserFile and AuthGroupFile and changed AuthOrder, but 1 thing I can't understand - how I can define permissions for homedirs of my virtual users.
[12:37] <lilium_> i executed it with sudo and it just shows that i successfully becam sudo and the time
[12:37] <JediMaster> KrisDouglas, don't think so, I do do the normal security updates daily though, don't remember seeing a kernel in the last few days though
[12:37] <rifter> JediMaster, you might check for regular updates to see what pops up there
[12:38] <rifter> JediMaster, the security updates only give you patches for security issues, not for other bugs
[12:38] <korisnikuser> i have a problem, i burned ubuntu notebook on cd, started the install, partitioned disc (i can see that i have less space on second partition when i go in windows) but instalation after 37% reported error on cd. i burned the cd on another computer and now when i try to install after running cd screen messes up
[12:38] <lilium_> rifter for me it looks like my syslog works
[12:39] <korisnikuser> random colors, and i cant do anything. i tried to do usb install, everything went well, and when it loads and i click run from usb screen messes up again
[12:39] <JediMaster> rifter, well yeah been doing those too =)
[12:39] <korisnikuser> please, just gimme links where to read coz i m lost
[12:39] <gnomefreak> korisnikuser: try the alternate installer
[12:39] <JediMaster> rifter, the sleep 1 fix didn't work straight away, that is when it stopped working, sshing in, killing off any trace of kdm and X then doing the /etc/init/kdm.conf update and start kdm, however I've done 5 reboots in a row now and it's worked each time
[12:40] <KrisDouglas> JediMaster, do you have an nvidia or ati card using proprietary drivers?
[12:40] <korisnikuser> is that also install with gui?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> korisnikuser: make sure the MD5SUM matches and you are burning the image on the slowest speed you can
[12:40] <JediMaster> KrisDouglas, Nvidia and yes, using the nvidia drivers
[12:40] <rifter> JediMaster, well that is good.  it's a hack but hopefully when they kill the bug it won't be necessary
[12:40] <gnomefreak> korisnikuser: not the alternate is a text based installer
[12:41] <korisnikuser> i need the gui, it is for my friend laptop
[12:41] <KrisDouglas> JediMaster, have you tried re-running the nvidia card installer since your display stopped working?
[12:41] <lilium_> rifter i restarted sysklog and now it seems to be loggin ty
[12:42] <collabra> korisnikuser: are you using the netbook installer for a laptop?
[12:42] <korisnikuser> i can check md5sum but i doubt it is because of that. i did the usb install too
[12:42] <korisnikuser> yes
[12:42] <rifter> lilium_, awesome
[12:42] <gnomefreak> korisnikuser: check the MD5SUM on the image you already have nad re-burn it on lowest speed you can.
[12:42] <JediMaster> KrisDouglas, no, but the workaround in the bug report with "sleep 1" in /etc/init/kdm.conf fixed it
[12:42] <JediMaster> but only after a reboot
[12:42] <korisnikuser> thing is, when i first inserted cd, i loaded ubuntu from cd
[12:42] <korisnikuser> and everything worked well
[12:42] <KrisDouglas> JediMaster, aha, I missed that, good to know it is working properlyish
[12:42] <korisnikuser> so drivers and cd should not be the problem
[12:43] <korisnikuser> i think first cd was faulty somehow and because of it didnt copied all the stuff
[12:43] <collabra> korisnikuser: you shouldn't use the netbook installer for a laptop
[12:43] <JediMaster> korisnikuser, there's normally a menu option when you boot from the cd to check that it's intact
[12:44] <E_MAN> does anyone know why my computer will not go to the grub menu, or boot from usb?
[12:44] <E_MAN> does anyone know why my computer will not go to the grub menu, or boot from usb?
[12:44] <E_MAN> does anyone know why my computer will not go to the grub menu, or boot from usb?
[12:44] <FloodBot1> E_MAN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> E_MAN:  check the bios settings and/or tell it to boot from usb. test the usb flash drive on other pc's to be sure it is a bootable flash drive.
[12:45] <korisnikuser> i have also original ubuntu disk that i used to install it on my desktop
[12:45] <korisnikuser> i have a6r asus notebook
[12:45] <KrisDouglas> E_MAN, try looking at the bios splash screen, usually you will see something like "press f8 to select boot device" or similar, if your machine can boot from USB, the option will be there
[12:45] <collabra> korisnikuser: that's what you ought to use for your friend's laptop
[12:45] <korisnikuser> it doesnt load that first screen
[12:46] <collabra> korisnikuser: you sure it's not a 64bit machine
[12:47] <collabra> or a 32 bit
[12:47] <korisnikuser> im sure. strange is tha on first load it loads good and every time after it doesnt
[12:47] <KrisDouglas> collabra, as long as the cd is 32 bit, it will work on either.
[12:47] <korisnikuser> it should not be affected even if some files are copied to a disk
[12:48] <korisnikuser> i also cant load gparted
[12:48] <timgluz> try start it on console
[12:48] <korisnikuser> it does all the textual part, and when it comes to gui screen freezes
[12:48] <timgluz> then you will get some reasons
[12:49] <korisnikuser> im too much of a newb to use console :(
[12:49] <Quasic> how do i mount a volume that is passworded with the terminal?
[12:49] <timgluz> just type gparted on console line
[12:49] <korisnikuser> its a decent laptop, it runs winxp average
[12:49] <tukadafoonday> Hey there guys, anyone able to help me.. I have a Ubuntu server that i want to get setup to learn a little about servers etc... How the hell to i delegate my domain name to my ip address of my router so i can port forward?
[12:49] <collabra> korisnikuser: you could try the alternate installer or the minimal installer if you have an internet connection...
[12:50] <korisnikuser> minimal installer?
[12:50] <korisnikuser> i have internet connection
[12:50] <collabra> yeah,... hold on.
[12:50] <korisnikuser> 4mb
[12:51] <E_MAN> does anyone know why my computer cant show the grub menu, or boot from usb?
[12:51] <collabra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> E_MAN:  booting from HD is bios, or badly made bootable flash drive settings..   GRUB menu not showing - is perhaops due to grub not installed properluy.
[12:52] <timgluz> E_MAN: does yout machine boot on usb?
[12:52] <E_MAN> tabris, no
[12:52] <timgluz> yeah, and alsi Dr_Willis reason
[12:52] <timgluz> exit
[12:53] <collabra> The minimal install is a network installer.... it's a text installer... no gui.... you might have better luck
[12:53] <raimondo> ciao!
[12:53] <E_MAN> i accidentily ran chmod 777 on my entire partition while trying to fix a permisssion error in my home folder
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> E_MAN:  i suggewt backing up imporntant stuff. and reinstalling then.
[12:53] <|ns|nR8> did you say oops E_MAN
[12:53] <raimondo> Gli.Eroi.Di.Hogan.1x01.L.informatore.Dvdrip.ZDC.avi
[12:54] <E_MAN> yes
[12:54] <bazhang> raimondo, wrong channel
[12:54] <korisnikuser> tnx for help. thing is, it is strange that on first start it can start gui, and second time cant. and also as i am installing it for my friend, textual instalation is not an option
[12:54] <gos> Hi , Lxde "ubuntu supports desktop effects compiz fusion?
[12:54] <raimondo> scusate!
[12:54] <korisnikuser> i will see my options from here, maybe even register at forum, tnx for your time
[12:54] <raimondo> i'm not practic!
[12:54] <bazhang> !it | raimondo
[12:54] <E_MAN> thanks Dr_Willis, i just hope my computer will boot to cd
[12:54] <collabra> korisnikuser: np
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> gos:  lxde does not include compiz by default..
[12:55] <soreau> gos: Yes you can use compiz in lxde. Just install compiz
[12:55] <tukadafoonday> Does anyone know where i might even get some help?
[12:55] <realopty> whats the best way to run a machine with no harddrive?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> realopty:  usb flash drive or cd... or clarify some more...
[12:56] <aeon-ltd> realopty: usb stick, if no other alternative
[12:56] <gos> drwillis but lxde ubuntu can use all the desktop effects?
[12:57] <collabra> tukadafoonday: go ahead and ask your question... if someone can help, they usually will.
[12:57] <realopty> anyone know how to use nomachine ?
[12:57] <gos> soreau i have install compiz and dont work
[12:57] <tukadafoonday> Hey there guys, anyone able to help me.. I have a Ubuntu server that i want to get setup to learn a little about servers etc... How the hell to i delegate my domain name to my ip address of my router so i can port forward?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> gos:  you did start compiz instead of your normal window manager?
[12:57] <tukadafoonday> Sorry collabra - didn;t want to repeat it again.
[12:57] <soreau> ! work | gos
[12:58] <niks1608> my all-in-one printer psc-1350 will not print on my network, right driver, normal selected, file is send but no result
[12:58] <JoeMaverickSett> can i install Ubuntu Server on top of my Ubuntu Desktop version?
[12:58] <soreau> gos: Pastebin the output of 'compiz --replace' from your terminal to pastebin.com
[12:58] <gos> i have istalled the compiz with ubuntu-tweak
[12:58] <bazhang> JoeMaverickSett, install lamp
[12:58] <bazhang> !lamp > JoeMaverickSett
[12:59] <ocx32> hello
[12:59] <Monkey_Dust> !hi| ocx32
[12:59] <ocx32> i have a linux server and would like to make it a centralized authentication server for windows XP and windows 7 clients
[12:59] <aeon-ltd> JoeMaverickSett: server edition is no different from desktop except it has no X, gtk apps and has more cli apps
[12:59] <ocx32> any products?
[12:59] <JoeMaverickSett> alright, thanks. i had LAMP installed coz of a session that went on in #ubuntu-classroom
[13:01] <gos> well with gnome no problem with compiz but with lxde is impossible
[13:01] <ocx32> any ideas?
[13:01] <soreau> gos: Pastebin the output of 'compiz --replace' from your terminal to pastebin.com
[13:02] <aeon-ltd> gos: if you were gonna use lxde with compiz, you may aswell just use compiz standalone
[13:02] <soreau> yea really :P
[13:03] <c3l> how do i mount a cdrom? how do I know what filetype it is?
[13:04] <niks1608> hallo all
[13:04] <realopty> is it possible to use a hard drive that has bad blocks?
[13:05] <_UsUrPeR_> realopty: yes. I would never do that though
[13:05] <realopty> yeah i know its a bad idea.
[13:05] <_UsUrPeR_> realopty: once a bad block  appears, there's inevitably more to follow
[13:05] <realopty> indeed
[13:05] <realopty> sad to say my best machines hdd has died :(
[13:06] <_UsUrPeR_> unfortunate
[13:06] <schnux> ocx32, openldap?
[13:06] <gos> this is the reporte: http://pastebin.com/
[13:06] <ocx32> i have a linux server and would like to make it a centralized authentication server for windows XP and windows 7 clients
[13:06] <ocx32> any ideas?
[13:06] <realopty> _UsUrPeR_, do you have any suggestions on how i can use the machine? I want to compile code on it using a NFS share.
[13:06] <schnux> ocx32, ldap will do it
[13:07] <gos> this is the reporte: laptop:~$ compiz --replace
[13:07] <gos> El programa «compiz» no está instalado actualmente.  Puede instalarlo escribiendo:
[13:07] <gos> sudo apt-get install compiz-core
[13:07] <gos> bash: compiz: orden no encontrada
[13:07] <gos> gos@gos-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install compiz-core
[13:07] <FloodBot1> gos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> realopty: as a 'cheat' ive partuituioned hard drives so all the bad parts are on one partition that i then dont use.
[13:07] <gos> [sudo] password for gos:
[13:07] <_UsUrPeR_> realopty: sure. just use LTSP with it :)
[13:07] <_UsUrPeR_> no hard drive required
[13:07] <_UsUrPeR_> 8)
[13:07] <realopty> LTSP :O ????
[13:07] <c3l> how do i mount a cdrom? how do I know what fs type it is?
[13:08] <amateur> ?
[13:08] <realopty> Dr_Willis, hmm. how is that possible?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> gos:  why are you even wanting to use compiz on lubuntu? You are basically defeating  the reasons to use lubuntu. (ie a litht desktop)
[13:08] <schnux> c3l, mount -o loop /file/to/iso /mnt/cdrom
[13:08] <_UsUrPeR_> realopty: http://ltsp.org/
[13:08] <indomiti> c3l i usualy do "mount /dev/cdrom /mnt"
[13:08] <realopty> _UsUrPeR_, thanks.
[13:08] <schnux> c3l, fstype iso9660 but automatically recognized
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> realopty:  if the bat parts are at the front half of the hd. I make a 2 partitions. (yes its dirty and is not a good idea)
[13:08] <niks1608> my all-in-one printer psc-1350 will not print on my network, right driver, normal selected, file is send but no result, anyone?
[13:08] <_UsUrPeR_> let me know if you have any ltsp questions. (it's what I "do")
[13:08] <Pici> gos: Please use http://paste.ubuntu.com , don't message your paste to the floodbot.
[13:09] <_UsUrPeR_> realopty: ^^
[13:09] <c3l> schnux: indomiti: that returns mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[13:09] <realopty> _UsUrPeR_, for sure. i already have one.
[13:09] <amateur> help: what "regular file" 's mean?
[13:09] <c3l> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[13:09] <schnux> c3l, thats ok
[13:09] <indomiti> I use logical volumes to mount some stuff, its encrypted... after reboot today it no longer mounts, when i try to mount it i get this error: mount: /dev/mapper/data-warez already mounted or /glftpd/site busy
[13:09] <realopty> _UsUrPeR_, is LTSP related to nomachine?
[13:09] <schnux> c3l, why sr0 ?
[13:09] <_UsUrPeR_> realopty: lets take this chat private
[13:09] <Quasic> bash: unmount: command not foud - How am I supposed to unload the volume?
[13:10] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to setup the X-FI Xtreme sound card i install the driver for it?
[13:10] <indomiti> use umount
[13:10] <amateur>  wooo ~  it's too many people
[13:10] <perlsyntax> :)
[13:10] <amateur> exit
[13:10] <amateur> quit
[13:10] <Pici> Quasic: its 'umount' not 'unmount'
[13:10] <timgluz> umount , i suppose
[13:10] <Quasic> ahh my bad
[13:10] <niglop> bazhang:  his usb isnt showing up?
[13:10] <schnux> amateur, write slash before cmds :D
[13:10] <Quasic> thanks for pointing out the obvious hehe
[13:10] <perlsyntax> anyone???
[13:10] <c3l> schnux: idk, I entered sudo mount /dev/cdrom cdrom, and it also returns mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[13:11] <timgluz> perlsyntax: what anyone?
[13:11] <schnux> c3l, thats wrong, you asked to mount iso, what do you want now?
[13:11] <schnux> c3l, sr0 is a physically device
[13:11] <perlsyntax> i was asking if anyone know how to setup the X-FI Xtreme sound card.
[13:11] <Pici> c3l: Is not not to be expected? cdroms are read only.
[13:12] <schnux> c3l, sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/mountpoint
[13:12] <c3l> schnux: I want to mount a cdrom. a physical round disk that I insert to my comp ;)
[13:12] <niglop> bazhang:  his usb isnt showing up?
[13:12] <neekers> i hope this is the right place to ask this question. i have 2 websites, site1.com and site2.com and i found a security script that can go in .htaccess or httpd.conf. if i put this script in httpd.conf, will it protect *both* of my websites? here is the script, http://perishablepress.com/press/2009/03/16/the-perishable-press-4g-blacklist/
[13:12] <indomiti> i installed my whole ubuntu system except for /boot in encrypted lvm. It mounts the root filesystem and swap fine but it does not mount /dev/mapper/data-warez, i get this error when trying to mount it manualy "mount: /dev/mapper/data-warez already mounted or /glftpd/site busy"
[13:12] <ocx32> schnux: : what product exactly? openldap? is it hard to implement?
[13:12] <perlsyntax> ok timegluz
[13:12] <niglop> does anybody know why my usb isnt showing up when i hook it in?? please help
[13:12] <bazhang> niglop, then lspci? is it a usb wireless? lsusb should have some output certainly
[13:12] <schnux> c3l, ok i understood iso ... then sr0 will be ok and read-only is of course too
[13:12] <perlsyntax> ?
[13:12] <gos> dr willis ok I give up using compiz fusion effects in lxde, but the flash player with firefox does not work with opera no problem
[13:12] <joofl> Can't believe so many people are having issues with ubuntu, it worked near enough out of the box with me
[13:13] <neekers> i love ubuntu, works great for me
[13:13] <tensorpudding> computers and software are too buggy for everything to work for everyone all the time
[13:13] <schnux> ocx32, openldap. you have to learn some things, yes. but once you know the basics, its easy
[13:13] <c3l> schnux: yeah, but it also returns mount: you must specify the filesystem type, and nothing gets mounted
[13:13] <perlsyntax> hello
[13:13] <joofl> I understand it's not that they did something wrong and i'm therefore superior :P
[13:13] <tensorpudding> especially with ubuntu, which tries to be reasonably cutting edge
[13:13] <joofl> I just got lucky
[13:13] <schnux> c3l, sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom
[13:14] <schnux> c3l, maybe add -o ro
[13:14] <timgluz> perlsyntax: i got it, i dont know, thats to specific question, did you try search that question on search engines?
[13:15] <perlsyntax> Timgluz, i have
[13:15] <niglop> bazhang:  it is: 'prolasic technology .inc pl2507 high speed USB 2ide bridge controller'
[13:15] <indomiti> i installed my whole ubuntu system except for /boot in encrypted lvm. its been working fine for year. But now when rebooting it mounts the root filesystem and swap fine but it does not mount /dev/mapper/data-warez, i get this error when trying to mount it manualy "mount: /dev/mapper/data-warez already mounted or /glftpd/site busy"
[13:15] <bazhang> niglop, entire output please
[13:15] <perlsyntax> his room is not very help
[13:15] <c3l> schnux: it gives mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?) In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[13:16] <Alonea> I made a script to enable two finger scroll but I am not sure how to get it to run at startup?
[13:16] <miha> hello guys, i have this problem long time (3 ubuntu versions) and it's always the same: if wireless connection fails (wpa+tkip, linksys + tomato firmware).. network manager just keeps connecting forever, never connects back. reboot always. helps. cmon, this bug sucks.
[13:16] <schnux> c3l, then try /dev/cdrom
[13:16] <niglop> bazhang:  it is: 'Bus 001 Device 004: ID 067b:2507 prolasic technology .inc pl2507 high speed USB 2ide bridge controller'
[13:16] <c3l> schnux: exactly the same erroe
[13:16] <bazhang> niglop, that is the entire output of lsusb?
[13:17] <niglop> no bazhang  but thats the usb, the truth is im helping a friend over the phone
[13:17] <Alonea> miha: I get this kinda stuff a lot too...generally related to drivers usually. I compile mine from source now and it works better, but just recently broke again this week
[13:17] <schnux> c3l, ubuntu?nautilus mounts it automatically, is it a multi-fs cd? audio with data?
[13:17] <aronaliaga> hola
[13:17] <niglop> and it would take a long time to read it all bazhang
[13:17] <aronaliaga> q tal como estais?
[13:17] <Pici> !es | aronaliaga
[13:17] <aronaliaga> sabeis cual es la pagina en español?
[13:17] <perlsyntax> look like noone going to help again /
[13:17] <gos> I need instructions to parameters of the console to install flash player in firefox lxde
[13:17] <neekers> yo quiero taco bell. :)
[13:17] <bazhang> niglop, he/she presumably has a computer with wired; why not just connect the ubuntu box and install the drivers that way.
[13:18] <niglop> bazhang:  he doesnt have wired, only wireless
[13:18] <phanindra> i am trying to install scim through apt-get install, its giving the error to download "jdk-6u19-docs.zip", i have downloaded "jdk-6u21-docs.zip" but its not workin. Waht sahll ido?
[13:18] <schnux> indomiti, crypted lvm ?
[13:18] <niglop> oh wait bazhang  his USB showed up, now for the previous errors ( HE CAN NOW UPLOAD TO PASTEBINIT! ;p)
[13:18] <miha> Alonea it's pretty standard centrino2 wlan thing
[13:18] <bazhang> niglop, never heard of prolasic as a wireless nic
[13:19] <phanindra> where can i get "jdk-6u19-docs.zip" or "jdk-6u18-docs.zip"
[13:19] <niglop> its okay bazhang  what was the command before you told me?
[13:19] <c3l> schnux: I was mainly wondering how to do it manually, and the DE tools doesnt really work as im running xmonad and not the standard DE
[13:19] <aronaliaga> hola q tal?
[13:19] <miha> Alonea if anyone in charge of this wanted me to run some debug code, i'm all ready
[13:19] <aronaliaga> hay canal en español?
[13:19] <Pici> aronaliaga: #ubuntu-es
[13:19] <miha> Alonea i'm sure it works *for them*
[13:19] <miha> :)
[13:19] <timgluz> perlsyntax: did you look this page: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/31519 ?
[13:19] <bazhang> aronaliaga, this is english only /join #ubuntu-es
[13:19] <c3l> schnux: nautilus doesnt say anything when I pop in the cd
[13:20] <phanindra> where can i get "jdk-6u19-docs.zip" or "jdk-6u18-docs.zip"
[13:20] <Alonea> miha: yeah, I know how that is. I don't anything about that card so I am not much help.
[13:20] <bazhang> phanindra, why would you want to get it in that format, or even use scim? ibus is what is used now
[13:20] <Alonea> anyone know how to put custom scripts into startup?
[13:22] <stu_> guys how do i change my bootup runlevel from graphical to CLI?
[13:22] <stu_> i just wanna boot to text
[13:22] <stu_> there's no /etc/inittab on my system, (ubuntu 10.04)
[13:23] <c3l> stu_: config files in /etc/init is used instead
[13:23] <phanindra> bazhang: the same problem occured when i tred to execute istallation of bus
[13:23] <aeon-ltd> stu_: if you can set gdm not to start at boot, easy as that
[13:24] <bazhang> phanindra, how did you try to install ibus
[13:24] <miha> Alonea until now i was just too lazy to attach utp.. but now i did
[13:24] <miha> :)
[13:24] <niglop> bazhang:  http://pastebin.com/gjtFNQGJ
[13:24] <Alonea> what file would I edit to add commands to start up??
[13:24] <phanindra> bazhang: sudo apt-get install ibus
[13:25] <miha> Alonea i even try to upgrade firmware of router now and then.. no difference :)
[13:25] <aronaliaga> hola, es posible que en el chat en español no haya nadie conectado?
[13:25] <miha> xp works, vista works... ubuntu works when it wants...
[13:25] <bazhang> phanindra, and what was the problem with that? pastebin.com if more than one line of error
[13:25] <tensorpudding> !es | aronaliaga
[13:26] <Alonea> tensorpudding: I think they said they couldn't connect
[13:26] <bazhang> 03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) is it niglop
[13:26] <bazhang> !broadcom > niglop
[13:26] <niglop> yes bazhang  :D
[13:26] <ManDay> How can I make EVINCE document viewer display docs in NON CONTINOUS mode by default?
[13:26] <A-KO> Question: What's the method to view a hard drive's raw sectors? Trying to verify that a data wipe did indeed wipe out data
[13:26] <A-KO> via ubuntu livecd
[13:27] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell Alonea about boot
[13:27] <niglop> bazhang:  ive tried it bazhang  i get stuck at the hardware driver programs bit, it gives me an error message
[13:27] <Alonea> miha: its probably driver related somewhere on ubuntu. Its usually the weak link.
[13:27] <karthee>  hi .. i have list ..  a 10
[13:27] <karthee>  a 20
[13:27] <karthee>  a 30
[13:27] <karthee>  b 40
[13:27] <karthee>  c 50
[13:27] <FloodBot1> karthee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:27] <karthee>  c 90
[13:28] <subzero2000> A-KO: Not sure of the syntax, but you can use dd on the command line to point at a partition with -if, and a file with -of as options, then you could inspect the file and see what's in it.
[13:28] <subzero2000> A-KO: "man dd" might be of some help.
[13:28] <schnux> c3l, is it already mounted? $ mount
[13:28] <niglop> Alonea:  what do you mean?
[13:29] <bastidrazor> stu_: you could rename /etc/init.d/gdm to /etc/init.d/gdm.disable   and that will boot you to a prompt.
[13:29] <ManDay> karthee: is that all the list or do you have some more entries
[13:29] <schnux> c3l, or $ df
[13:29] <Alonea> bastidrazor: so I would do something like ./home/alonea/myscript and then the exit 0 on the next line?
[13:29] <bastidrazor> !upstart > stu_
[13:29] <ManDay> How can I make EVINCE document viewer display docs in NON CONTINOUS mode by default?
[13:29] <karthee> ManDay: I have a very big list .. I ve used this as a sample ..
[13:29] <bastidrazor> Alonea: no need for the . and make sure the script is executable. that should do it.
[13:29] <A-KO> thanks subzero2000, I've got a utility to do it from Windows PE but for some retarded reason it wants actual partitioning and volumes to be in place.....which kind of skews the results a bit :P
[13:30] <miha> Alonea lspci says: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
[13:30] <Alonea> niglop: I'm sorry?
[13:30] <Alonea> bastidrazor: ok thanks
[13:30] <xue3727> 大家好
[13:30] <adnc> hello does someone know if there is a tool that can convert empathy-logs to readable html?
[13:30] <bazhang> !cn | xue3727
[13:30] <subzero2000> A-KO: dd might have a similar restriction. I've use it to copy partitions before, but while I've never used it to inspect one, you should be able to do it that way.
[13:31] <xue3727> #ubuntu-cn
[13:31] <subzero2000> A-KO:  Then again, since it only wants a device, the following MIGHT work: dd -if /dev/sda -of /dev/stdout | hexdump -C | less
[13:32] <bazhang> xue3727, /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:32] <miha> Alonea seems to be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/575492
[13:32] <subzero2000> A-KO: Substitute the actual device name for /dev/sda if that's not your drive's device name.
[13:32] <niglop> bazhang:  cant i just send him the driver and he moves it onto his system and installs it?
[13:33] <subzero2000> A-KO: /dev/sda1 would allow you to look at the first partition, /dev/sda2 the second, etc.
[13:33] <bazhang> niglop, you did read that broadcom link, correct?
[13:33] <Alonea> miha: are you using native drivers or no?
[13:33] <niglop> yes bazhang
[13:34] <ManDay> How can I make EVINCE document viewer display docs in NON CONTINOUS mode by default?
[13:34] <niglop> bazhang:  cant i just send him the driver and he moves it onto his system and installs it?
[13:34] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43/STA%20-%20No%20Internet%20access niglop take another look then
[13:38] <A-KO> hmmm
[13:40] <aeon-ltd> part
[13:41] <TriMe> anyone here use neotrace? and if so do u know a good similar program for ubuntu / linux
[13:41] <Pici> TriMe: What does neotrace do?
[13:41] <Alonea> now why is it that my touchpad in linux is always squirly? I will be typing and then suddenly a flood of text will be pasted, or suddenly everything I typed will be gone, or sometimes the cursor will be moved?
[13:42] <TriMe> neo trace performs traceroutes etc in a really nice program'
[13:42] <TriMe> and its on windows only.
[13:43] <karthee> ManDay: I have a very big list .. I ve used this as a sample ..
[13:43] <bazhang> karthee, ubuntu support question?
[13:43] <philinux> My Problem: Router resets after one minute from cold switch on. After that it's ok
[13:44] <ManDay> How can I make EVINCE document viewer display docs in NON CONTINOUS mode by default?
[13:44] <Alonea> and its always a flood of text that I hadn't copied before, but usually something from a page I was just looking at.
[13:44] <Pici> TriMe: I remember using something years ago that looked similar.  I use mtr nowadays though, I don't have a need for location or map plotting.  Let me see if I can find the other package I used though.
[13:44] <TriMe> ok cools thanks Pici
[13:45] <TriMe> im just doing a small assignment on all my cisco courses and they make u use this programs and just would like to have a little bit more of a play.
[13:46] <Alonea> TriMe: yeah, I had to do some stuff like that in my CS courses, but we only really used wireshark and a some others
[13:47] <Alonea> TriMe: but then my CS department is heavily into unix systems for their homework. We got labs of Solaris machines
[13:47] <appamajig> Alonea: what school are you attending?
[13:47] <TriMe> Yeah we are using wireshark also.. but i use ubuntu on my laptop and things i do at home are just windows based..
[13:48] <Alonea> appamajig: RIT (Rochester Institute of Technology)
[13:48] <appamajig> Alonea: cool, just curious :)
[13:48] <TriMe> I have installed Visual Traceroute ViTE but its not loading on my lappy..
[13:48] <TriMe> give me 2 secs i might reboot and see if it'll load then.
[13:48] <Alonea> appamajig: here is the kicker. I am a female CS student. I get looked at very strangely
[13:48] <TriMe> brb
[13:49] <Traintop> Hi folks!
[13:50] <alexis0> ciao
[13:50] <Traintop> I have a thinkpad t60 with built-in-umts and it works out-of-the-box under ubuntu! -thx!
[13:50] <TriMe> Nope still wont load...
[13:51] <Traintop> but I have trouble configuring it under the preinstalled winxp... :-( -any ideas or hints?
[13:51] <Pici> TriMe: You could either a) try to run neotrace in Wine, b) Try http://geotrace.sourceforge.net/ c) use something like this http://www.cucy.net/map/georoute.html
[13:52] <bazhang> Traintop, ##windows for xp support
[13:53] <Alonea> well. I got a phone interview soon. be back some other time!
[13:53] <Traintop> bazhang: I know, but they don't respond and as it works under ubuntu I thought there could be someone with the same dual-boot-setup like me, and give a quick hint :-)
[13:53] <bazhang> Traintop, no. offtopic here. please be patient there and dont ask here
[13:54] <Traintop> bazhang: one last question: is there a channel dedicated to thinkpads?
[13:55] <bazhang> Traintop, doubtful try /msg alis list *thinkpad* but ##hardware is more likely suited
[13:55] <Traintop> bazhang: thx! cu
[13:56] <philinux> traintop /join #thinkpads
[14:00] <abhijit> hello
[14:01] <_polto_> Hi guys, seems like MOTU PPA have FFMPEG  package compiled with  --enable- libx264  (extra space).
[14:01] <abhijit> :)
[14:02] <appamajig> wow creating an ext4 filesystem takes a while, eh?
[14:02] <tensorpudding> not significantly more than ext3
[14:03] <ManDay> How can I make EVINCE document viewer display docs in NON CONTINOUS mode by default?
[14:03] <appamajig> I don't have much experience with either :) it's been going for at least 10 minutes or so... it's a 500gb partition
[14:03] <bazhang> appamajig, thats normal
[14:04] <appamajig> bazhang: thanks :) I was a little worried
[14:04] <fedorov> Hi. Is this normal: http://pastebin.com/GxxaAxwC ? (this shows almost 100% usage of my 4GB RAM)
[14:04] <Pici> _polto_: have you filed a bug?
[14:05] <slinker1> fedorov: yep this aint windows linux will use all available ram to cache speeds up subsequent loads of apps
[14:05] <A-KO> Windows does the same
[14:05] <A-KO> just an FYI
[14:05] <slinker1> well sort of
[14:05] <A-KO> not to get into that debate :P
[14:05] <A-KO> just saying
[14:06] <rww> fedorov: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[14:06] <philinux>  My Problem: ROUTER resets after one minute from cold switch on. After that it's ok
[14:06] <Pici> fedorov: If you look at the -/+ buffers/cache line, you'll see that you actually have 3gb free when not concidering buffers or cached memory.
[14:06] <slinker1> ah ty rww was hunting that link
[14:06] <bazhang> philinux, router is running ubuntu?
[14:06] <rww> slinker1: !memory has it too, brw
[14:06] <rww> btw **
[14:07] <philinux> bazhang: does same thin if pc not switched on. Reset fully really annoying
[14:07] <A-KO> oh that's awesome....
[14:07] <fedorov> thanks mates :)
[14:08] <Beauford> i would like to do spoken work with video recordings on ubuntu thru my netbook and upload onto Youtube, can anyone recommend an application or an addon to the standard linux application suite?
[14:08] <SCD> Anyone here decent with CSS and cares to do some charity work for a struggling student? :P I will repay you with internet love and virtual cookies 8D
[14:08] <Pici> SCD: Thats not really on-topic for this channel.  Try #css or maybe #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:08] <_polto_> Pici, not yet, I am deeply in my tests
[14:08] <Beauford> i would like to do spoken word with video recordings on ubuntu thru my netbook and upload onto Youtube, can anyone recommend an application or an addon to the standard linux application suite?
[14:08] <SCD> Thankya Pici
[14:09] <_polto_> Pici, trying to make OpenCV work with GStreamer as video source
[14:10] <shiftingcontrol> i having this problem while install package "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libselinux1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)"pls help
[14:11] <RandyRKelly> link to latest ubuntu?
[14:12] <niglop> RandyRKelly:  www.google.com
[14:12] <RandyRKelly> nm
[14:12] <bazhang> www.ubuntu.com RandyRKelly
[14:12] <bazhang> !google > niglop
[14:12] <kryptyk> RandyRKelly: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[14:12] <daniel_tp> hello everybody, i'm trying to set up a pxe server for my company. i want to be able to get access to the ubuntu desktop live cd via pxe. is it possible to serve the files via ftp? (tftp is working fine, i get the pxe menu)
[14:12] <shiftingcontrol> can any one know how to reinstall dpkg ?
[14:15] <fiddle2> I've been looking for an simple keylogger for ubuntu both online and in the ubuntu software center but couldn't find anything. Any suggestions?
[14:15] <bazhang> fiddle2, apt-cache search keylogger bring any results?
[14:16] <philinux> bazhang: No ideas then
[14:16] <bazhang> philinux, router issues in ##hardware
[14:16] <shiftingcontrol> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libselinux1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2),i m getting following error can anyone suggest wot can i do ?
[14:16] <abhijit> daniel_tp, look if this has any info for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Desktop/PXE
[14:17] <philinux> I'll give it a go
[14:18] <fiddle2> Does anyone know of a simple keylogger for ubuntu?
[14:19] <bazhang> fiddle2, my suggestion didnt pan out?
[14:19] <fiddle2> bazhang:  I missed it
[14:19] <bazhang> fiddle2, apt-cache search keylogger
[14:19] <shiftingcontrol> fiddle2:Pykeylogger
[14:20] <fiddle2> bazhang:  thanks i'll try
[14:20] <fiddle2> shiftingcontrol:  where do i find it
[14:22] <fiddle2> shiftingcontrol:  where can I download ykeylogger
[14:25] <neekers> in ubuntu, should new directives be put un apache2.conf or httpd.conf?
[14:25] <neekers> un=in
[14:25] <da_> Wheb I forward emails with pictures folksdon't get those pictures. What can I do?
[14:26] <hacked_kernel> is it possible to show HDMI from video camera to computer?
[14:26] <rww> neekers: apache2.conf for per-server directives, /etc/apache2/sites-available/nameofsitefile for per-site directives
[14:27] <rww> neekers: httpd.conf only exists for compatibility reasons
[14:27] <capiira> da_, maybe your provider have a attachement size limitation ?
[14:27] <philinux> hacked_kernel: Have you got a grraphics card with a HDMI output
[14:28] <neekers> rww: would apache2.conf be a good place to put this script? http://perishablepress.com/press/2009/03/16/the-perishable-press-4g-blacklist/
[14:28] <kartook> hello
[14:28] <Lord_Rahl> anyone know a way to make empathy to popup messages?
[14:29] <hacked_kernel> philinux, i want to let the input to the computer so show whats on the camera on computer
[14:29] <hacked_kernel> philinux, yes i have graphics card with HDMI support but is it two ways?
[14:29] <abhijit> Lord_Rahl, edit=>preferences=>notifications
[14:29] <rww> neekers: yes
[14:30] <Lord_Rahl> abhijit, thanks i will take a look
[14:30] <philinux> hacked_kernel: is your monitor HD capable and have you got a hdmi cable connecting pc and monitor
[14:30] <neekers> rww: thanks, do you think that script is worth-while?
[14:30] <hacked_kernel> philinux, its a laptop and i connected the camera already with HDMI cable to that port on my laptop
[14:31] <philinux> hacked_kernel: should be good to go then
[14:31] <hacked_kernel> philinux, when i connected it nothing appeared so how can i detect that its recognized and what software do i need to play videos from the camera
[14:32] <amobius> good morning from Colorado Ubuntu Channel
[14:32] <rww> neekers: depends. It's not going to actually stop any exploits, because I can't see any on there that aren't already patched in applications. It would stop attempts from cluttering your logfiles, though.
[14:32] <rww> (i.e., if that list stops you from getting exploited, you need to do a better job with updates)
[14:32] <philinux> hacked_kernel: Ah no that method is for showing stuff on TV. You need to connect camera via usb  for laptop to read movies
[14:32] <aoupi> anyone know an RSS aggregator that loads the flash plugin?
[14:34] <neekers> rww: ahh, i see. i do run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade monthly. are there other things you might suggest?
[14:34] <amobius> I just installed vmware to my HP G70-460 ( US ) Laptop.  Does anyone know if I MUST use an .iso file to install the guest operating system? When I used a standard Windows XP install cd, the virtual machine's boot order does not see my laptop's cd rom drive. And so cannot boot to the installer cd
[14:34] <Zeek> Heyas, is there a package which will do an intense reformat of a disk, something which will insure the data is purged?  I am giving an old disk to a friend and want to make sure it is cleaned before I install a new OS.
[14:35] <philinux> hacked_kernel: the hdmi on the laptop is OUTPUT not input.
[14:35] <gnubie> Zeek; http://www.killdisk.com/
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> amobius:  you should be able to set the viortul machines boot order.  at least in virtualbox it even has a 'bios' settings page.
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> amobius:  you could just make a iso file from the cd - shouldent take too long.
[14:36] <rww> neekers: If you're using any web applications (Wordpress, Mediawiki, etc.) that you didn't install through the package manager, you need to keep them up-to-date yourself. The documentation for those applications usually says how to do that. Apart from that, you should be fine; Ubuntu's Apache2 configuration covers most of the security recommendations out there.
[14:36] <RandyRKelly> how do i install firefox from ubunt
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> RandyRKelly:  firefox is in  the repositories.. and is installed by default on ubuntu .
[14:36] <gnubie> Zeek; http://www.dban.org/   also
[14:36] <compromised> apt-get install firefox
[14:37] <amobius> Dr_Willis,  I noticed that inside the bios of the virtual machine,  the boot order is not changeable
[14:37] <RandyRKelly> ok so it is already podated
[14:37] <RandyRKelly> pdated
[14:37] <amobius> it's as if the virtual machine cannot see the rom drive
[14:37] <bazhang> RandyRKelly, yes
[14:37] <neekers> rww: yes, i run a number of wordpress sites and have them updated to 3.0, i try to keep on top of updates
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> amobius:  i dont use vmware. only virtualbox. It is changeable in vbox. Im suprised the cd first is not the default for vmware
[14:37] <RandyRKelly> ok
[14:37] <Zeek> gnubie, cool...any that work under linux on an attached disk?  I have it USB connected up to my running ubuntu desktop
[14:38] <amobius> Dr_Willis,  I was surprised to see it too
[14:38] <RandyRKelly> new to this
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> amobius:  i dont see much reason to use vmware over virtualbox these days
[14:38] <amobius> Dr_Willis,  who makes a virtual machine and boots to the hard drive of the local hardware?
[14:38] <amobius> virtualbox is better yes?
[14:38] <bazhang> !manual | RandyRKelly this is worth reading
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> amobius:  i dont use vmware any more. No need to.
[14:38] <gnubie> Zeek; not sure, but probably not, usyally does internal drive
[14:39] <amobius> Dr_Willis,  I wish to use a magic jack in linux
[14:39] <amobius> supposedly with virtual box it is possibl;e
[14:39] <thune3> Zeek: the "shred" command can be used effectivlely on whole disks and paritions.
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> amobius:  ive heard that works in virtualbox.  - You said you are using Vmware...
[14:39] <amobius> Dr_Willis,  sorry i am using vmware....just now thinking of virtualbox :P
[14:39] <RandyRKelly> thanks ubottu
[14:39] <bazhang> RandyRKelly, ubottu is a bot
[14:40] <gnubie> Zeek; boot into it and see if you can select the drive you want.
[14:40] <amobius> you can still thank him though!
[14:40] <RandyRKelly> lol
[14:40] <amobius> lol
[14:40] <yusha72> hello
[14:40] <yusha72> ni hao
[14:40] <Zeek> gnubie,  blech, rebooting to do tasks is for windows users :P
[14:41] <amobius> that settles it,  Verona is the best* Starbucks flavor
[14:41] <amobius> it even hurts less when you spill it in your crotch in the morning
[14:41] <amobius> well thanks for the tip
[14:41] <amobius> Dr_Willis,  I will look into virtualbox and see if things are easier
[14:41] <shiftingcontrol> can anybody sugget hw to reinstall dpkg
[14:42] <Bisu[Shield]> how do I allow another user to gain access to my files?
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> Bisu[Shield]:  access how? You set the modes on them and they can access them - is one way
[14:42] <ectospasm> Bisu[Shield]: what kind of access? read, write...
[14:42] <Bisu[Shield]> read write yes
[14:42] <neekers> rww: thanks for your help
[14:42] <ectospasm> Bisu[Shield]: execute?
[14:43] <Bisu[Shield]> i was thinking chown *:other_usr ./* -R
[14:43] <ectospasm> Bisu[Shield]: no
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> directiries need to be 'executable' if you want others to be able to access stuff inside them
[14:44] <ectospasm> Bisu[Shield]: no, that wouldn't work
[14:44] <ectospasm> You'd need to make sure you're both part of the same group Bisu[Shield], then do this:
[14:44] <philinux> Bisu[Shield]: Just use folder sharing
[14:44] <ectospasm> Bisu[Shield]: chgrp -R <group> <dir/file>
[14:44] <Bisu[Shield]> so I have a user /home/A and /home/me and I wand A to have access to all me files
[14:45] <shiftingcontrol> as sson i ping fb.me i receive unknownhost in 9.10 ,can anyone say wot might be wrong'
[14:45] <ectospasm> Bisu[Shield]: then chmod g+rw -R <dir/file>
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> Bisu[Shield]:  you want JUST A to have access?
[14:45] <Bisu[Shield]> read write access
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> Bisu[Shield]:  how about other users? D E F and G? :)
[14:46] <amobius> i just figured it out
[14:46] <amobius> in case your curious
[14:46] <amobius> Dr_Willis,  the fix was that i needed to select  "use legacy emulation on physical devices"  in the advanced settings for tha tvirtual machine
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> amobius:  i never plan on using vmware any time soon. :)
[14:47] <amobius> I could tell :P
[14:47] <amobius> Dr_Willis,  Im still gonna look into virtualbox
[14:47] <amobius> thanks alot
[14:47] <amobius> have a great day from colorado!
[14:47] <ManDay> How can I make EVINCE document viewer display docs in NON CONTINOUS mode by default?
[14:47] <shiftingcontrol> can anyone tel how to reinstall dpkg.pls
[14:47] <ManDay> ^ is this question impossible to answer?
[14:48] <Bisu[Shield]> no not def and g :)
[14:48] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: what is "reinstall"?
[14:48] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: as in "fix"?
[14:48] <ManDay> because if reinstall = uninstall and install that could be problematic
[14:48] <shiftingcontrol> ManDay:yea fixing the problem in dpkg ,exactly
[14:49] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: id simply replace the broken files
[14:49] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: what is the problme?
[14:49] <shiftingcontrol> ManDay:E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libselinux1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2),i m getting following error can anyone suggest wot can i do ?
[14:50] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: say WHAT?
[14:50] <ManDay> dpkg ?
[14:50] <ManDay> *says
[14:50] <shiftingcontrol> Manday:exactly,unable to install any poackage
[14:50] <shiftingcontrol> via terminal as well as synaptic
[14:50] <ManDay> did you look at man 5 apt.conf?
[14:51] <shiftingcontrol> it is a conf file for apt
[14:51] <ManDay> well, man apt.conf is not a conf file but a manual
[14:51] <ManDay> maybe it gives you some help with fixing the problem
[14:51] <ManDay> id try that hint first ;)
[14:52] <shiftingcontrol> wot is id try ?
[14:52] <ManDay> ?
[14:52] <Badganaka> Stoil89 BG?
[14:52] <ManDay> is it gibberish time?
[14:52] <Bisu[Shield]> how is linux setup, files can only belong to 1 group?
[14:52] <ManDay> Bisu[Shield]: yes.
[14:53] <ManDay> thats not just linux, thats unix in general
[14:53] <Badganaka> exit
[14:53] <Pici> Bisu[Shield]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions might be a good overview if you're not familiar with Linux permissions.
[14:53] <schnux> Bisu[Shield], you can create metagroups to solve that
[14:55] <ManDay> guys my left mousbutton stopped working!
[14:55] <ManDay> thats awful!
[14:56] <offtu> hi @all, i have a backup drive and i don't want it to appear in the places menu. how can i manage that?
[14:56] <ikonia> it's most likley hardware
[14:56] <antivirtel> hello, is there any tool that can check an SD card? I've now bought on ebay, and I want to make it sure, that is works well!
[14:56] <schnux> ManDay, on apple that's default :D
[14:57] <ManDay> schmux, its not an apple :_/
[14:57] <ManDay> some other things go weird too
[14:57] <brendan-> what does it matter antivirtel, there's probably a no-return policy
[14:57] <ikonia> antivirtel: put a file system on it and use it
[14:57] <ManDay> what /dev/ are the mouse buttons?
[14:57] <ikonia> they are not
[14:57] <ikonia> /dev/input is where the mouse normally is
[14:57] <antivirtel> ikonia it has a file system
[14:57] <ikonia> antivirtel: ok, so use it
[14:58] <ManDay> ikonia, its not in /mice is it
[14:58] <antivirtel> ikonia and how can I make it sure, that it is error free?
[14:58] <antivirtel> brendan- 7d return
[14:58] <brendan-> chkdsk?
[14:58] <brendan-> granted that's windows
[14:58] <brendan-> but..
[14:58] <ManDay> gotta reboot
[14:58] <schnux> ManDay, why? does "xev" maybe help you ?
[14:59] <ManDay> schmux why would it
[14:59] <ManDay> xinput reports that my bottuns still work
[14:59] <ikonia> ManDay: if it's just stopped working, it's probably hardware
[14:59] <ManDay> but only the right one has any effect in X
[14:59] <antivirtel> <brendan-> chkdsk? <-- I dont use windows for work... :D
[14:59] <ManDay> ikonia: no xinput (and xxd if I found the right dev) still report in
[14:59] <ikonia> ManDay: can you left click on the places menu
[14:59] <schnux> ManDay, xev recognizes lmb too ?
[15:00] <ManDay> ikonia: no, nothing, even windows wont receive focuns
[15:00] <ManDay> *focus
[15:00] <Ubuntus> Good morning/evening everyboy
[15:01] <ManDay> schnux: to xev sees only the right mb
[15:01] <ManDay> weird huh
[15:01] <Ubuntus> I have Blender 2.49 in Aplications/Graphics, but I downloaded the 2.53b version from the original site, now i want to delelete the 2.49
[15:01] <ManDay> xinput sees all but xev only right
[15:01] <Ubuntus> and have the 2.53 there, on the Aplications/Graphics site
[15:01] <schnux> ManDay, indeed. xev must recon it since it's not physically defective
[15:02] <Ubuntus> not on "my documents"
[15:02] <Ubuntus> How do i move the folder there?
[15:02] <shiftingcontrol> can anyone pls paste the apt.conf file code?
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:  how did you install the older one?  was it a .deb or .tar.gz that you downloaded?
[15:03] <schnux> shiftingcontrol, which? /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* ?
[15:03] <Ubuntus> Dr_Willis: it was a .deb file, but there is still no .deb file in the Blender webpage
[15:03] <shiftingcontrol> schnux:i need configuration file source code of apt,apt.conf
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:  uninstall the old via the package manager. install the new..
[15:04] <ManDay> Xorg is like a card house goddamit, you just have to sneeze and ahlf of that things stops working
[15:04] <schnux> shiftingcontrol, where is it located
[15:04]  * ManDay is back with a working LMB
[15:04] <nlko> hi guys, ive follwoed this tutorial here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman, when i send an email to the new list i get the following error "pipe_transport unset in system_aliases router" in exim4 mainlog...any ideas please?
[15:05] <Ubuntus> Dr_Willis: I already downloaded the new one, but i wanted that folder to be where the old one is, in the Aplication/Graphics site. Where is exactly that in my system?
[15:05] <Ubuntus> Dr_Willis: Maybe i could just drag and drop the folder there
[15:05] <shiftingcontrol> schnux:whereis yielded lots of results but none was useful
[15:06] <Sandking1> hey
[15:06] <Sandking1> is there a torrent download of netbook remix?
[15:06] <ManDay> apropos whereis, is there some comprehensive list on the subtly differences between   whereis, apropos, locate, info, man, which   and so forth?
[15:07] <Bisu[Shield]> can i use scp to delete or move a file?
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:  learn to use the package manager system
[15:07] <ManDay> Bisu[Shield]: yes
[15:07] <ManDay> Bisu[Shield]: not delete tho, if im not mistaken
[15:07] <nlko> hi guys, ive follwoed this tutorial here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman, when i send an email to the new list i get the following error "pipe_transport unset in system_aliases router" in exim4 mainlog...any ideas please? also before i set the aliases and used new aliases command i was getting a unrouteable address error, but that tutorial suggested i wouldnt need to do this
[15:07] <Ubuntus> Dr_Willis: So drag and drop wont work , eh?
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:  if its not in .deb  format, then put it in /opt/ or somewhere that it wont posiboally break things
[15:07] <ManDay> and not move Bisu[Shield] erm... so no...
[15:07] <Ubuntus> opt/
[15:07] <schnux> nlko, thats exim related
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:  you proberly dont even need to install it 'ssytem wide' at all. You could keep it in the users home dir
[15:07] <Ubuntus> ok
[15:08] <shiftingcontrol> Manday:can yu paste apt.conf source code ?
[15:08] <ritztech> got an awk question if i have a line that starts with ---- but i want to end with a line that ends with word quit  OR 15 lines down from the line that first matched --  i have now   awk '/--/
[15:08] <nlko> schnux: ok, any ideas on how i can solve it?
[15:08] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: ok
[15:08] <schnux> nlko, better ask in exim or debian channel
[15:08] <nlko> ok cool
[15:08] <Pici> ritztech: #awk would be the best place to ask that.
[15:08] <ritztech> they actually have a awk room
[15:08] <ritztech> hah
[15:08] <Pici> nlko: #ubuntu-server would also be a good place to ask.  #debian really doesn't handle Ubuntu questions.
[15:09] <Ubuntus> Dr_Willis: Well, it was because i had my folder in "my documents", and when i meved the Blender icon to my desktop, i could not acces the program
[15:09] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: check /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf
[15:09] <Bisu[Shield]> so how do I move via scp ??
[15:09] <harvi> Sandking1: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[15:09] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: ive got no native apt.conf file, only apt.conf.d/
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:  mand a new icon if its just the icon thats the issue
[15:09] <Ubuntus> Dr_Willis: Sp i thought maybe needs to be in the Aplications/Graphics site
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntus:   make a new launcher pointing to wever its at
[15:10] <Bisu[Shield]> sorry how do I use scp to move a remote file
[15:10] <Ubuntus> ok, thak you
[15:10] <shiftingcontrol> ManDay:i copied apt.conf example stil i m struggling with same prob,
[15:10] <ritztech> seems like everyone is sleeping in there
[15:10] <ritztech> haha
[15:10] <Pici> Bisu[Shield]: You don't.  You could use sftp to download and then remove the file though.
[15:11] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: maybe you should read the whole manpage on apt.conf and check out what that immediat could refer to. i can not be of great help to you,
[15:11] <Ubuntus> Dr_Willis:it worked, thx
[15:12] <shiftingcontrol> ManDay:ok,anyways thank yu,will try forum. . . .
[15:12] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: i wouldnt bother :P
[15:12] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: forum is mostly useless (at least thats my experience)
[15:12] <Ubuntus> Dr_Willis: Still, i wanted that to be in my aplication/graphics, so it looks more organized, but, meh, if Ubuntu can't do that...
[15:12] <ManDay> shiftingcontrol: i recomment the man page and check #debian or some other places
[15:13] <shiftingcontrol> ManDay:yea will keep trying
[15:17] <docmur> I installed a printer a c350 and it has access to 2 trays, 1 is 8.5 x 11 and other is 11 x 17, Ubuntu will never let me print on the 11 x 17, any ideas
[15:17] <cgroza> Hello everyone, i wonder if someone knows a solution for my problem. Every time when i type a keyword in Firefox address bar i get some error saying " Jar: File Not Found". I already tried reinstalling Firefox, Deleting the cache, cookies, and unistalling all my ad-dons. But so no luck.
[15:17] <docmur> Konika Minolta c350
[15:18] <ghostlines> why aren't bins found that i put into folders within my path?
[15:18] <ghostlines> why do i have to specify the absolute path to every folder in my path?
[15:18] <s3r3n1t7> cgroza, did you just run the updates?
[15:18] <ghostlines> or can this be done another way?
[15:18] <tensorpudding> ghostlines: are you sure they're in your PATH?
 FF is up to date
[15:19] <tensorpudding> i.e. you see them when you do echo $PATH
[15:19] <s3r3n1t7> cgroza, i did not ask if it was up to date. I asked if you had just run the updates.
 yes, i run them all
[15:19] <ghostlines> tensorpudding, I'll give it one more test now
[15:19] <tensorpudding> PATH needs to be a colon-separated list, make sure it is formatted correctly
[15:19] <da-bayman> hello, is there any way i can find out what kernels i have on my wubi installation, by using a livecd?
[15:20] <s3r3n1t7> cgroza, kill every instance of firefox and run it from the command line. Do what you did before that gave you the error and watch for the ouput.
ok
[15:22] <ghostlines> tensorpudding, say for instance my path has /usr/local/bin in it. And then i make a folder called test in the bin folder, the files that are in test aren't found
[15:22] <ghostlines> tensorpudding, i have to then add the test folder to my path again like this /usr/local/bin/test
[15:22] <s3r3n1t7> ghostlines, because the test folder is not in your PATH.
[15:22] <tensorpudding> ah, yeah, that's normal
[15:22] <cgroza> s3r3n1t7, i typed firefox in the terminal, entered a key word in firefox but the terminal windows shows no output
[15:22] <ghostlines> ahh k
[15:22] <ghostlines> cool
[15:22] <tensorpudding> it looks for files in that folder, but doesn't recurse into subfolders
[15:22] <ghostlines> yeahh my bad
[15:23] <ghostlines> i had to ask that question
[15:23] <ghostlines> can't it recurse into directories
[15:23] <ghostlines> i guess that would slow it down
[15:23] <ghostlines> ?
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> ghostlines:  PATh and system vbariables dont work that way
[15:23] <Fjorgynn> Hi, can I use compiz with ubuntu live-cd?
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> ghostlines:  do 'echo $PATH' to see your current PATH
[15:24] <soreau> Fjorgynn: yes
[15:24] <ghostlines> yep I follow you it isn't listed there unless i manually add the absolute path
[15:24] <s3r3n1t7> ghostlines, it'd cause a security issue.
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> Fjorgynn:  it can be used.. but it will depend on your video card.
[15:24] <ghostlines> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[15:24] <ghostlines> lol
[15:24] <ghostlines> good point
[15:24] <Pici> !enter | ghostlines
[15:24] <Fjorgynn> Dr_Willis: where do I activate it?
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> Fjorgynn:  depends on yoru video card...
[15:25] <s3r3n1t7> cgroza, Can you explain, preferably into detail (and on 1 line) what you're doing that gives you that error message?
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> Fjorgynn:  if your card can do compuiz with the normal drivers.. it should allready be activated
[15:25] <ghostlines> thanks for the help, and info dudes
[15:25] <cgroza> i type a word in the address bar and after i hit enter it gives me the error.
[15:26] <cgroza> s3r3n1t7,i type a word in the address bar and after i hit enter it gives me the error.
[15:26] <s3r3n1t7> cgroza, and what version of firefox do you currently use?
[15:26] <cgroza> the latest stable one, 3.6
[15:26] <s3r3n1t7> cgroza, third digit? And what keyword do you use to test this?
[15:27] <cgroza> s3r3n1t7, its 3.6.8
[15:27] <s3r3n1t7> cgroza, and what keyword?
[15:27] <Fjorgynn> how do I use it?
[15:28] <cgroza> s3r3n1t7, any keyword, normally it should search google and take to the first result
[15:28] <jsnikeris> how do I change power management settings from the command line?
[15:28] <s3r3n1t7> cgroza, which keyword did you use to get the error? I'm trying to replicate the error to see if it's just you or more then just you.
[15:29] <cgroza> s3r3n1t7,  try rambo.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> cgroza: no way, an app called rambo!?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> !info rambo
[15:30] <s3r3n1t7> ActionParsnip, read up please ;-)
[15:30] <s3r3n1t7> cgroza, hmm that goes fine for me. The message states that it can't find a jar? Does it say which jar? And it sounds like a problem with perhaps java.
[15:30] <cgroza> ActionParsnip, its not an app, its just a keyword used to troubleshoot my firefox
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> i see, funnky
[15:30] <ccmonster> anyone able to help me with NMAKE on windows. I know this is a ubuntu room, but no responses in other rooms and figure this room has plenty of people that might be able to help.
[15:31] <cgroza> s3r3n1t7, i should give you the full message, where can i put it without flooding the channel?
[15:31] <s3r3n1t7> cgroza, pastebin.com
[15:31] <cgroza> s3r3n1t7,ok
[15:31] <Pici> ccmonster: If you feel the need to ask ubuntu people this, #ubuntu-offtopic is the best place.  It is definitely not on-topic for #ubuntu
[15:32] <ccmonster> thank you Pici
[15:33] <fleurtherock> ciao ho installato ubuntu10.04 per i 386
[15:33] <cgroza> s3r3n1t7,http://pastebin.com/HH7ki0GY
[15:33] <Pici> !it | fleurtherock
[15:35] <edakiri> cgroza: Load this in firefox jar:file:///usr/lib/firefox-3.6.8/chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/browser-region/
[15:35] <edakiri> you see there is a file.  This "rambo" text is strange.  do you have some strange "rambo" language set in preferences?
[15:35] <edakiri> or about:config
[15:35] <cgroza> s3r3n1t7,done
[15:35] <s3r3n1t7> edakiri, could you please scroll up?
[15:35] <edakiri> s3r3n1t7: why?
[15:36] <edakiri> s3r3n1t7: i did read earlier text already
[15:36] <s3r3n1t7> edakiri, as he just stated, this messages is generated by using the keyword "rambo". Therefor, the "rambo" in the error message has nothing to do with language settings or preferences.
[15:36] <Pici> edakiri: 'rambo' was just a test keyword, this error happens with any keyword search.
[15:36] <cgroza> s3r3n1t7,i see a file called region.properties
[15:37] <thune3> jsnikeris: if you want to go 100% gui free, i think you need to use gconftool "gconftool --all-dirs /apps/gnome-power-manager" then "gconftool -a /apps/gnome-power-manager/notify" to show keys. look at man-page for how to set keys.
[15:37] <edakiri> cgroza: does the problem persist if you create a new profile?
[15:37] <cgroza> Pici, thats right, i get the error with any word
[15:37] <s3r3n1t7> cgroza, edakiri asked that question to you. It would appear he knows more about this issue then I do.
[15:37] <cgroza> edakiri, how do i create one.
[15:38] <cgroza> s3r3n1t7,ok thank you very much.
[15:38] <edakiri> cgroza: firefox -h  tells you
[15:38] <cgroza> edakiri, ok
[15:39] <labrat> question: I need to run a VB6 .exe on my machine, what is the best way to do this ?
[15:39] <edakiri> labrat: crossover office
[15:39] <edakiri> labrat: alternatively, wine
[15:39] <labrat> crossover office ?
[15:40] <labrat> gotcha.. i have explored wine's alternative..
[15:40] <edakiri> labrat: http://www.codeweavers.com/
[15:41] <labrat> looking at it right now, thanks.
[15:41] <cgroza> edakiri, thank you very much, it works now!
[15:41] <cgroza> thank you very much everybody
[15:42] <edakiri> cgroza, s3r3n1t7. you can look into any zip file, including jar, by using jar: protocol
[15:42] <thune3> jsnikeris: actually -R is a better option for seeing all the keys "gconftool -R /apps/gnome-power-manager" "gconftool -R /apps/gnome-screensaver"
[15:42] <karthee> HI .. any suggestions for a log analysing tools please ? I saw sawmill .. looks good .. I have my own pythong applications .. I need a good tool to parse and analyse them .. Any suggestions please ?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> karthee: cat the log file into grep
[15:45] <KL-7> Hi. I have some problems with alsa after ubuntu restart. It seems like alsa is not loaded on startup. To make it work I have to run 'alsa-utils start' manually after system restart. How can I fix this?
[15:47] <KL-7> Wiki says I should have /etc/init.d/alsa file, but I don't. This file didn't appear after reinstalling alsa package.
[15:47] <embryonalni> could you help me pls? I am doing cat *.html | grep -H blabla but I always get (standard input): instead of the file names :/
[15:47] <edakiri> KL-7: check lsmod when alsa is not working
[15:47] <rww> embryonalni: grep -H blahblah *.html
[15:48] <embryonalni> rww: ah tnx!!
[15:48] <edakiri> KL-7: i also have no /etc/init.d/alsa , but alsa works
[15:49] <willy_> hi all. i tried to extract xampp.1.7.3a.tar.gz to /opt/ but i got this error
[15:49] <willy_> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error
[15:49] <willy_> tar: Child returned status 1
[15:49] <willy_> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[15:49] <FloodBot1> willy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:49] <willy_> any clue?
[15:49] <dajhorn> willy_: Corrupt file.  Download it again.
[15:49] <dajhorn> willy_: gzip -tv xampp.1.7.3a.tar.gz  might return a better error message.
[15:50] <Sevith> BOOM! :D
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Sevith: headshot!
[15:50] <willy_> i have redownloaded the file for 3 times but the result was always the seme
[15:50] <willy_> *same
[15:50] <dajhorn> willy_: Then try to get it from a mirror.
[15:50] <s3r3n1t7> willy_, they also give out signature messages with the file you just downloaded. Try and verify it.
[15:51] <Sevith> using iptables how can i set specific packet flags -.- (Stupid Q? I know..)
[15:51] <Sevith> Google's not working :(
[15:51] <Userx7> can anyone help me submit a bug on launchpad? not sure where to put details...
[15:51] <s3r3n1t7> Sevith, packet flag? which packet flag?
[15:51] <Monkey_Dust> then tell it to get back to work
[15:52] <Sevith> s3r3n1t7, Lets say SYN,ACK?
[15:52] <Sevith> s3r3n1t7, Just wanna add some rules to drop some nmap scans..
[15:52] <s3r3n1t7> Sevith, and you want to SET this flag? or match on it?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> !bug | Userx7
[15:52] <Sevith> s3r3n1t7, Drop the packet if the packet has these flags set..
[15:52] <s3r3n1t7> Sevith, this'll be interesting for you then: http://netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO/packet-filtering-HOWTO-7.html
[15:53] <Sevith> s3r3n1t7, If it loads :D
[15:53] <s3r3n1t7> Sevith, and scroll down to TCP Extensions
[15:53] <KL-7> edakiri, what exactly should I check in lsmod output?
[15:53] <galen_> Ahha
[15:53] <galen_> Finally
[15:53] <Sevith> s3r3n1t7, Alright thanks :D
[15:53] <s3r3n1t7> Sevith, you're welcome.
[15:54] <Sevith> s3r3n1t7, Will probably take me like...10 minutes for this page to load haha :D  ... :|
[15:54] <s3r3n1t7> Sevith, why is that?
[15:54] <Sevith> s3r3n1t7, Running on a sattellite system and its crappy weather out...Not to mention..The system sucks lol... (Its been down the past like..4 days? Due to bad weather..)
[15:54] <s3r3n1t7> Sevith, does pastebin load faster for you?
[15:54] <Sevith> satellite*
[15:55] <Sevith> s3r3n1t7, Probably not i will get it to load eventually thank god I have a little patience left lol :D
[15:55] <^DEMOSS^> penis ?
[15:55] <Sevith> ..
[15:55] <^DEMOSS^> what about penis ?
[15:55] <s3r3n1t7> Sevith, here is the part I was referring you to, with just the text and nothing else. Should be faster: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6PpQUwMP
[15:55] <LjL> ^DEMOSS^: please don't.
[15:56] <Sevith> s3r3n1t7, Thanks I appreciate it. But I got em both to load now :D    Thx.
[15:56] <galen_> Hello people that don't know anything about or why any of you are here or have in intention actually having a personal converstation with......
[15:56] <s3r3n1t7> Sevith, good! Good luck setting it up. I've got to run, got fight class in half an hour
[15:56] <uRock> !language | ^DEMOSS^
[15:56] <Sevith> s3r3n1t7, Alright! Take care man :D
[15:56] <s3r3n1t7> Sevith, likewise!
[15:56] <Sevith> s3r3n1t7, Thx again:D
[15:57] <^DEMOSS^> uRock my language is EN now ?
[15:58] <delac> Any Audacious users out there? Could anyone of you tell me if you are affected by bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious/+bug/584483
[15:58] <Userx7> what is the package name for the gnome screensaver and how do i find the version?
[15:59] <Pici> Userx7: apt-cache policy gnome-screensaver
[15:59] <delac> So basically just open Audacious in GTK UI mode and select Playback->Repeat. Then close and restart Audacious. And check if the mark is there or not.
[15:59] <iceroot> Userx7: apt-cache search gnome screensaver  there you get the packagename, so you can search the repos with strings
[16:00] <dirty_american> hey all..  is there a bug open on the x64 jabber libs?  its failing to connect in both pidgin and empathy
[16:00] <delac> If the mark is gone, you are affected by this bug.
[16:00] <Userx7> There will be no where in which I am using something OTHER than gnome-screensaver/
[16:00] <dirty_american> or perhaps some libs i'm not aware of
[16:00] <spreadsheet> Hello all
[16:00] <^DEMOSS^> руддщ
[16:00] <^DEMOSS^> hello
[16:00] <spreadsheet> I'm having problems with a USB WiFi adapter. It worked before,but now it doesn't.
[16:00] <spreadsheet> It's an ASUS USB n13
[16:00] <spreadsheet> I installed the module, and it appears in lsmod
[16:01] <^DEMOSS^> spreadsheet is that working on ubuntu 9/04 ?
[16:01] <Curly_Q> Has anyone use uvnc here? If so, when using the Ip address e.g., 77.20.39.20   do you add the port :5900  along with the ip address such as 77.20.39.20:5900      ?
[16:01] <spreadsheet> I do: ifconfig ra0 up; iwconfig ra0 essid networkname
[16:01] <spreadsheet> But I still can't connect. IIRC, that was what I did last time when it worked
[16:01] <spreadsheet> ^DEMOSS^: I'm using 10.04
[16:03] <tom_> anyone here running ubuntu mini only?
[16:03] <^DEMOSS^> spreadsheet hmm
[16:04] <galen> How do I connect to a wireless network?
[16:04] <Xanatos> hello all i have ubuntu 10.04 installed on a MSI netbook and am having webcam issues any ideas?
[16:04] <spreadsheet> galen: does your card work?
[16:04] <econdudeawesome> galen you should have nm-applet open--it looks like a signal and probably has a red exclamation point, if you haven't made any theme changes
[16:04] <galen> No clue
[16:04] <spreadsheet> There should be an icon on your upper right
[16:05] <galen> ok
[16:05] <econdudeawesome> galen in that icon, you can select which network, or if yours isn't there, check "other networks"
[16:06] <przemek_> good morning ;)
[16:06] <Xanatos> hello all i have ubuntu 10.04 installed on a MSI netbook and am having webcam issues any ideas?
[16:06] <trans> hello everyone, i want to install custom sound theme, i have downloaded the theme file, where to copy it
[16:06] <galen> Ok
[16:06] <spreadsheet> So... how do I get a wireless card working?
[16:07] <trans> also when I log in I dont hear log in sound, how to enable it
[16:07] <spreadsheet> Because the thing is that it doesn't show up on NW manager. But it does show up on iwconfig
[16:07] <Xanatos> Spred by not showing up do you mean networds arent or the card itself
[16:10] <docmur> I installed a printer a c350 and it has access to 2 trays, 1 is 8.5 x 11 and other is 11 x 17, Ubuntu will never let me print on the 11 x 17, any ideas, it's a konica minota c350
[16:10] <jamesAnelay> Hi, I want to set 664 for files and 775 for folders within a folder whats the command for this??
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> jamesAnelay: you can use find with the option -f for file and -d for directories
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> -type f   and -type d
[16:12] <jamesAnelay> actionParsnip - like chmod -f 664 /directory?
[16:12] <zagabar> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Latest-ATI-Video-Driver-Has-Support-for-Ubuntu-10-04-149158.shtml  Does this mean that ATI mobility radeon x600 is supported again? Before I couldn't install the proprietary driver because there was none
[16:13] <Pici> zagabar: Likely not.
[16:14] <Xanatos> Hi guys, I recently installed 10.04 on an MSI Netbook. I'm having trouble getting the webcam working... there are no drivers on the MSI page for any OS. It says works off of drivers built in to the OS. So if a windows OS picks it up that easy why isnt ubuntu?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> jamesAnelay: find . -type f -exec chmod 664 {} \;
[16:14] <jamesAnelay> thanks
[16:15] <philinux> Xanatos: Open a terminal, does it show up with lspci
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> jamesAnelay: create sample data to test
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> jamesAnelay: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?find
[16:16] <DJIndy> Hey, I am using Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 on an Eee PC 1005HA, when typing in most text fields I get a problem where it will randomly paste a small block of text copied randomly from somewhere else (a previous web page for example). Apparently others have had a similar issue but I haven't been able to find a solution.
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> jamesAnelay: bash and especially the find command gives linux a tonne of power
[16:16] <Pici> DJIndy: The middle mouse button is used for pasting things from the xorg clipboard.
[16:17] <jamesAnelay> ill read up on them, cheers actionparsnip
[16:17] <Pici> DJIndy: Its likely that you are pressing some part of the trackpad that sends the middle mouse button accidentally.
[16:17] <Xanatos> Philinux not showing up any ideas?
[16:17] <squiggie> Good morning everyone. I just wanted to double check something before I did it. I need to consolidate my snapshots into 1 vdi. I do that be deleting (right click and delete snapshot) on the base snapshot and it will merge everyting into the base image. Is that correct?
[16:17] <john_47> what is the best way to manage daemon?
[16:18] <DJIndy> This occurs while I am not touching the touchpad though, just while typing. And I have checked it, sometimes it will happen when not even touching the keyboard or anything at all.
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> john_47: there is no sigle best way to do anything, even in life
[16:18] <Pici> squiggie: Virtualbox snapshots? That would be better answered in #vbox
[16:19] <squiggie> Pici: I asked it in there, and didn't get a response. I was just hoping someone in here might know since it is a larger population.
[16:19] <philinux> xanatos what model is the msi
[16:19] <DJIndy> Is there something I should change in the middle mouse pad button settings anyway to see if it fixes the problem?
[16:19] <Pici> squiggie: Well you may want to mention that it is for virtuabox next time ;)
[16:19] <saravan> hi every body
[16:19] <Xanatos> uh u100
[16:20] <squiggie> Pici:  sorry
[16:20] <saravan> i have installed vlc player still im unable to play the movie in ubuntu9.10
[16:21] <saravan> please any one suggest me how to rectify it
[16:21] <Xanatos> philinux msi u100-n011
[16:21] <xangua> 'the movie'¿¿ what omvie saravan¿
[16:22] <JenniferB> Is there a way to make windows ( my console really ) transparent... but without using compiz ? ( compiz has an annoying bug, making it useless )
[16:22] <Xanatos> Saravan what type of movie file?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> saravan: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:22] <ssureshot> I'm using an script to run mailq on my servers and email me the output.. when the script tries to attach to 2 of my servers using the same command line I get the following.. ssh-askpass[9450]: Could not grab keyboard (someone else already has it),,, This only happens when I run the job through cron,,, if I run it manually the script works fine..
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> saravan: vlc dosnt install a great deal of codecs
[16:22] <ssureshot> anyone seen that?
[16:22] <philinux> Xanatos: Is this lucid or karmic
[16:23] <saravan> @xanatos: videos
[16:23] <Xanatos> lucid netbook remix
[16:23] <saravan> xangua, videos
[16:23] <xangua> saravan: what kind of videos¿ ......... do we have to guess¿
[16:23] <philinux> saravan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu & https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[16:23] <ssureshot> karmic
[16:23] <Monkey_Dust> JenniferB: have you tried compositor?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> saravan: run: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:25] <schnux> JenniferB, use terminator, it has transparent feature, if you just want terminal transparent
[16:25] <philinux> Xanatos: Should work according this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#MSI%20Wind%20U100
[16:25] <schnux> JenniferB, or without borders eterm would be the best choice
[16:25] <sepidev> how to get back default gnome desktop configuration, i've lost it, nothing works now.
[16:25] <drew212> is anyone familiar with the synCE program?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> sepidev: rename ~/.gnome2
[16:26] <saravan> xangua, how many kinds of videos are thier
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | drew212
[16:26] <schnux> sepidev, ./gnome2 and ./gconf
[16:26] <drew212> ActionParsnip: thanks =P...
[16:26] <Elirips> Any ideas when eclipse 3.6 will come to ubuntu?
[16:27] <JenniferB> eterm.. I've heard about it.. but never succefully been able to run it... changing editor is however far fetched.. i kind of like konsole :) .. ( although it sucks )
[16:27] <sepidev> I've deleted them, but no response in re-login
[16:27] <xangua> Elirips: when a new version of ubuntu is released i supose, ubuntu is not a rolling release distro
[16:27] <sepidev> almost nothing works on my desktop
[16:27] <schnux> JenniferB, ok I dont use KDE , dont know Konsole very much but should be able to be transparent
[16:28] <JenniferB> schnux: I don't either.. but using it anyway :)
[16:28] <Elirips> xangua, thanks
[16:28] <drew212> I'm having trouble getting synCE to sync with my windows mobile 6.5 professional device, it keeps telling me it has failed to create a parthership
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> saravan: can you give me some feedback on the command I gave or am I shouting at the wind?
[16:28] <JenniferB> I am on gnome
[16:28] <slow-motion> hi
[16:28] <xangua> Elirips: you could try the eclipse team ppa https://launchpad.net/~eclipse-team/%2Barchive/ppa
[16:28] <schnux> sepidev, try recovery mode, rename your user folder, create a new user folder for you (set permissions) and login , everything should be default now, then restore what you like
[16:29] <kerebrus> slow-motion hello
[16:29] <Xanatos> its odd that no drivers are found everywhere but it still doesnt work
[16:29] <xangua> looks like there are no packages for lucid
[16:29] <Xanatos> for any OS
[16:29] <slow-motion> hi kerebrus
[16:29] <Elirips> xangua, think i'll just download it and manually install to usr/local
[16:29] <sepidev> schnux:ok, thanx, i'll try now
[16:29] <schnux> JenniferB, whats your window decorator?
[16:30] <FabParma> i lost a fstab that i made with custom setting. it mounted a ntfs hd at startup. i tried to rewrite it but don't work i missing something. please can you check what wrong? thanks  http://paste.ubuntu.com/470729/
[16:31] <schnux> FabParma, <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[16:31] <spaderna_> hello
[16:31] <JenniferB> default ubuntu
[16:32] <JenniferB> @ schnux
[16:32] <schnux> FabParma, /dev/sdc1 /media/HD1TB_1 ntfs-3g   defaults   0  0
[16:32] <saravan> ActionParnip, its stil under download dude,,,,,
[16:32] <delac> Any Audacious users out there? Could anyone of you tell me if you are affected by bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious/+bug/584483
[16:32] <FabParma> schnux: thanks
[16:32] <delac> So basically just open Audacious in GTK UI mode and select Playback->Repeat. Then close and restart Audacious. And check if the mark is there or not.
[16:33] <delac> If the mark is gone, you are affected by this bug.
[16:33] <schnux> JenniferB, I dont know whats default on KDE :D KWin and compiz I guess, and when you dont like compiz , you could try emerald or simply xcompmgr but compiz is best choice I think
[16:33] <JenniferB> schnux: I am using gnome.. but using the kde editor konsole.. :)
[16:33] <Pici> JenniferB: What is your 'bug' with compiz that makes it unusable?
[16:34] <sepidev> schnux: how can i enter recovery mode at boottime? f8?
[16:34] <FabParma> schnux: ntfs-3g allows to write?
[16:34] <JenniferB> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TransparentTerminals
[16:35] <vivek243> hi..
[16:35] <JenniferB> Pici: Windows in window panel dissapears randomly, but can be brought back by minimizing everything and back.. is very annoying though if you are unsure if they are open or not
[16:35] <vivek243> good night everybody..
[16:35] <sepidev>  how can i enter recovery mode at boottime? f8?
[16:35] <vivek243> can anyone tell me how to download videos from youtube??
[16:36] <slinker1> sepidev: shift i believe
[16:36] <xray7224> vivek243, do you use firefox ?
[16:36] <Pici> JenniferB: Is this a known bug?
[16:36] <vivek243> yes
[16:36] <philinux> vivek243: thats against their terms and condition
[16:36] <voyager640> Is 10.04.1 available for UNR?
[16:38] <voyager640> vivek243: lmgtfy.com has instructions: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+i+download+youtube+videos%3F
[16:38] <JenniferB> Pici: I googled it once alot and finally found some forums talking about it, but few people have successfully resolved it
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> FabParma: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[16:38] <JenniferB> I am not sure why I am experiencing it.. It's happening on my home computer as well
[16:38] <xray7224> vivek243, get a extension called downloadhelper, it will allow you to download the youtube video
[16:38] <xray7224> vivek243, please ask before you PM
[16:38] <voyager640> Has anyone tried 10.04.1 ?  I'm trying to figure out if there's a version for UNR...
[16:38] <Tusserte> hi i'm a complete beginner to ubuntu. i am trying to install ubuntu on a 64bit comp with a blank hard drive. i downloaded the iso and burned it to a cd and put it in, but it's stuck on a loading screen. what's wrong?
[16:38] <Pici> voyager640: Please do not suggest google or lmgtfy as a response here. We provide support here, not links to google.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> voyager640: its UNE now
[16:39] <xray7224> vivek243, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006/
[16:39] <JenniferB> but I used the same ubuntu cd on both but the one at home has been updated to 10.04 and at work I am still on 9.10 and both still behaving like this
[16:39] <xray7224> vivek243, this isn't really ubuntu support ether.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> voyager640: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook
[16:39] <Pici> !info youtube-dl | vivek243
[16:39] <voyager640> Pici: that actually is where i found the instructions to do it... the first or second link worked successfully.
[16:39] <sinurge> @tusserte what was see before u got to the blank screen
[16:40] <voyager640> But you're right, I should ignore off-topic questions that aren't about ubuntu :)
[16:40] <drew212> is there an easy way to transfer your contacts from a wm 5 phone to a wm 6.5 that includes a sim card?
[16:40] <FabParma> schnux: thanks, but i dont use frontends. ill have to study again fstab
[16:40] <Tusserte> it's not blank, it's a black screen that reads ubuntu and a 5 white/red dots that are supposedly loading
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> !ot | drew212
[16:40] <Tusserte> and i get no options before this
[16:40] <vivek243> i have installed something clivo...how to use it?
[16:40] <adac> Is it possible to install ubuntu on a external usb disk with the normal installation cd?
[16:41] <voyager640> how do you find out your current ubuntu version?
[16:41] <sinurge> tusserte: have you changed ur boot options to load cd first
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Tusserte: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[16:41] <Tusserte> yes
[16:41] <voyager640> uname -a seems to only give the kernel, not the ubuntu version.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> voyager640: lsb_release -a
[16:42] <Tusserte> actionparsnip:i don't get that far, i don't even get to see any menus/options
[16:42] <voyager640> *types lsb_release -a*  aha.  i already have 10.04.1 LTS installed!  Score!  Guess I don't have to worry about installing it! :)
[16:43] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm trying to connect a usb broadband modem, but I failed :) it's a huaway e1550...dmesg says it found it but network manager doesn't detect it
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Tusserte: you hold shift at boot, you will get the grub option which is before any plymouth nonesense
[16:43] <philinux> voyager640: sys>admin >system monitor >system tab
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: run: lsusb ,search for the 8 character hex ID for guides
[16:43] <xray7224> vivek243, please don't PM without asking
[16:43] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip: I did...I followed the guides....no luck
[16:43] <vivek243> xray7224: what is PM?
[16:44] <xray7224> personal message
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: what is the lsusb line which identifys the device?
[16:44] <ubuntu> Hey guys
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> !hi | ubuntu
[16:44] <sjm> voyager640, you can generally also "cat /etc/issue"
[16:45] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip: 12d1:1446
[16:45] <voyager640> sjm: awesome.  that one has a \n at the end of the string ;)
[16:45] <ubuntu> Guys, I am trying to install 10.04 by booting from my USB stick, the install is going well until I press the "Forward" button after selecting my keyboard-language
[16:46] <ubuntu> it keeps loading and never goes to the screen where I can select my hard drive
[16:46] <Tusserte> actionparsnip: that seemed to work, i'm going to play around some more i guess. thanks!
[16:46] <pushdown> hi there i have a question about non-free software in ubuntu
[16:46] <vivek243> xray7224: sorry i am new here...i just asked how to use that sw?
[16:46] <pushdown> how can i display all software that is not completely free
[16:46] <pushdown> even firefox, thunderbird
[16:46] <kerebrus> vivek243 sw?
[16:46] <kohlers> hi, got no sound output though checkbox detects the device correctly and alsa is installed.
[16:47] <pushdown> i want to get rid of all software like that
[16:47] <alket> Is there any theme which is White & Red ?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> pushdown: firefox is completely free
[16:47] <vivek243> kerebrus, software
[16:47] <pushdown> firefox is not completely free
[16:47] <voyager640> pushdown: are you saying anything that's not under the GPL?
[16:47] <kerebrus> vivek243 sorry just logged in what software are you needing help with?
[16:47] <xangua> with vrms pushdown (virtual richard stallman)
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> pushdown: it is, its open source and free in cost
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> pushdown: how is firefox not free?
[16:47] <sjm> pushdown, in synaptic, you can filter what is installed from which source, I believe and see what has been installed from the "non-free" repo.
[16:47] <xangua> ActionParsnip: he means the logo i supose
[16:48] <pushdown> i mean free as in iceweasel and icedove
[16:48] <alket> pushdown, I think that only Icons and Names are in trademark, code is free as in freedom
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> pushdown: that doesnt answer the question
[16:48] <pushdown> i dont like this issue
[16:48] <vivek243> kerebrus, software which can download videos from youtube..
[16:48] <voyager640> pushdown: http://vrms.alioth.debian.org/  ... type: sudo apt-get install vrms
[16:48] <pushdown> anyway freedom discussion is off topic
[16:48] <kerebrus> vivek243 just install a plugin for firefox
[16:49] <vivek243> kerebrus, which?
[16:49] <voyager640> xangua: i thought you were joking until i saw the package in the repository
[16:49] <Xanatos> philinux i got it working tyvm
[16:49] <daedaluz> vivek243: just go to /tmp and copy the fully loaded Flash* file from there
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> pushdown: then I cant personally advise as your definition of free and mine are completely different
[16:49] <philinux> Xanatos: How
[16:49] <Utrinqueparatus> how can i set the startup order of applications?
[16:49] <TEEDEV> hi all
[16:50] <kohlers> ;D "we are borg, freedom of choice is irrelevant"
[16:50] <kerebrus> vivek243 just go to the addons and find one that you think works for what your wanting to do. other than that its just a matter of opinion.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> pushdown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox states: Mozilla Firefox is a free and open source web browser descended from the Mozilla Application Suite and managed by Mozilla Corporation
[16:50] <vivek243> daedaluz, what will we do with that file?
[16:50] <pushdown> i agree with you about being definitions are different
[16:50] <daedaluz> vivek243: watch it
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> pushdown: so i'm going to go out on a limb and say your idea of free is skewed
[16:50] <Xanatos> its was retardedly simple the MSI has a keybinding to turn on the webcam
[16:50] <spreadsheet> Is there a channel specifically for wireless?
[16:50] <Xanatos> fn+f6
[16:50] <pushdown> freedom is my main point
[16:51] <voyager640> ActionParsnip, pushdown: vrms doesn't seem to mind firefox.  So i guess it is free, I mean, if the virtual richard stallman package says so, right?
[16:51] <Xanatos> once the camera was enabled it worked xD
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> pushdown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Free_Software_Definition
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> pushdown: states: The word "free" in our name does not refer to price; it refers to freedom. First, the freedom to copy a program and redistribute it to your neighbors, so that they can use it as well as you. Second, the freedom to change a program, so that you can control it instead of it controlling you; for this, the source code must be made available to you.[2]
[16:51] <JonRob> hi, i'm trying to diagnose interference that's coming through when i use my cd/dvd drive
[16:51] <pushdown> all modifications must be approved by a commite
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> pushdown: so youor ida of free is in fact flat out wrong
[16:51] <JonRob> on audio it's a crackling, on dvds it's green blocks in the picture
[16:51] <JonRob> sometimes cds skip to new tracks
[16:52] <JonRob> i don't know how to diagnose any further though
[16:52] <pushdown> according to you
[16:52] <sjm> pushdown, you could just use debian
[16:52] <vivek243> daedaluz, there is no file with name flash
[16:52] <xangua> pushdown: if you want 100% free ubuntu try gnewsence
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> pushdown: no, thats the defnition by the FSF in February 1986
[16:52] <pushdown> i think i'm going to
[16:53] <Xanatos> off topic much?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Xanatos: just educationg :)
[16:53] <Xanatos> lol!
[16:53] <kohlers> @JonRob they're having a discussion here... i find it fascinating...
[16:53] <ubuntu> Does anyone know why my ubuntu 10.04 installation gets stuck on loading after I selected my keyboard-language and press the "Forward" button??
[16:53] <TEEDEV> hi
[16:54] <xangua> there are also a ppa for iceweasel/icecat and icedove pushdown and in the repositories you will find abrowser (firefox without branded icon)
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you check the CD for defects?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> yikes
[16:54] <Xanatos> ubuntu: install it from a flashdrive cds suck =)
[16:54] <JonRob> kohlers: re: software freedom? i missed the start so i've no idea what's happening!
[16:54] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip, I install it from my USB stick, just bought it and used the Universal installation tool
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Xanatos: not all systems can boot usb
[16:55] <kerebrus> Xanatos that is what hes doing
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: did you MD5 test the ISO you udownloaded?
[16:55] <perlsyntax> How do you setup a X-FI Xtreme sound baster sound card in ubuntu with the alsa driver?
[16:55] <ubuntu> hmm, isn't MD5 some kind of encryption? not sure what that would do tbh
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: then how do you know it was error free or complete
[16:55] <Xanatos> md5 makes sure you copy is the original
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: you didnt check the data so you have no way of knowing it is good
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | ubuntu
[16:56] <Xanatos> and not some fake or corrupted version
[16:56] <perlsyntax> Anyone have a X-FI Xtreme soune card by sound baster?
[16:56] <perlsyntax> ?
[16:56] <prodcutnews> howz to the extact datetime when i installed ubuntu on my system ?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> MD5 simply makes sure the file you have hasnt been changed in transit by transmission errors
[16:56] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip, Ahh that'sgreat, thanks!
[16:56] <prodcutnews> howz to know the extact datetime when i installed ubuntu on my system ?
[16:56] <prodcutnews> t
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: didnt it occur to you to check such a sensitive pieve of data?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> prodcutnews: look at the creation date of your home folder maybe
[16:57] <Xanatos> hey well i'm off ty all and i hope all you ?'s get answered =)
[16:57] <perlsyntax> ?
[16:57] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip, Well, I downloaded it from the official site and used a tool they provided as well, figured it'd work ;)
[16:57] <[J|F]> Hello, I recently installed Ubuntu 10 over my previous Ubuntu 8 and now the "Windows Wireless Drivers" for my wireless card aren't working.  The WWD interface says "Invalid Driver!".
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: no and I will never buy a creative card, not worth the hassle
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> [J|F]: remove the windows driver then re-add it
[16:58] <prodcutnews> oh ... i got last accessed date 2010-07-29 21:14
[16:58] <prodcutnews> on ls -lrt
[16:58] <perlsyntax> SO no one know !
[16:58] <[J|F]> ActionParsnip: Like, reinstall ndiswrapper?
[16:59] <prodcutnews> should i need to check directory or folder properties by right-click
[16:59] <Naznaz> perlsyntax, I only got X-FI Fatality and that was set up from start on and worked perfectly
[16:59] <perlsyntax> Naznaz,it pick up but i get no sound.
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> [J|F]: no, just remove the windows driver in ndisgtk
[17:00] <perlsyntax> I am new to this sound card.
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> prodcutnews: apparently ext4 has creation timstamping
[17:00] <[J|F]> ActionParsnip: Nope, still says "Invalid Driver!".
[17:00] <prodcutnews> how to check whatz fs it is using 9.04
[17:00] <Naznaz> perlsyntax, hum, maybe set the correct values (5.1 / 2.1 / optical) in the device options?
[17:00] <k0sh> prodcutnews: mount
[17:00] <perlsyntax> Naznaz,i never try that
[17:01] <sjm> prodcutnews, try the -c switch on ls (it checks creation time rather than modification time)
[17:01] <perlsyntax> naznaz,how do i do that?
[17:01] <Naznaz> perlsyntax, you click on the volume icon -> sound preferences -> output
[17:01] <SolarisBoy> ubuntu just updated _all_ of my applications, removing all the custom values from all \.* files,, that was bad.. im officially upset
[17:01] <Naznaz> there you should be able to select the appropriate output
[17:02] <perlsyntax> naznaz,All i see is dummy out in there.
[17:02] <prodcutnews> -c didnt help
[17:02] <perlsyntax> odd
[17:02] <Naznaz> perlsyntax, okay, then your driver's didn't get installed properly
[17:02] <Naznaz> drivers*
[17:02] <spreadsheet> Ok, this is very surprising and good
[17:02] <[J|F]> Actually, my wireless troubles are small now, on my "fresh" install, Synaptic does not recognize the CD-ROM that I used to install it as a software source.
[17:03] <spreadsheet> I bought the USB WiFi adapter because my laptop one did not work
[17:03] <spreadsheet> I thought it was a hardware failure
[17:03] <perlsyntax> Naznaz,i see
[17:03] <Trashi> hi @ pureftpd- user ;) is it possible to change the owner of a file directly after it was uploaded?
[17:03] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip, The MD5 seems valid
[17:03] <spreadsheet> However now the laptop is downloading the broadcom driver (the one in the lappy)
[17:03] <Naznaz> perlsyntax, I'm only at my laptop here, I got the Fatality in my main system :-/, tried the official website?
[17:03] <spreadsheet> But the thing is that it is taking forever
[17:03] <perlsyntax> what the web site
[17:03] <prodcutnews> actually i thought of appreciating my stable ubuntu 9.04 version, by knowing when i last installed it , as didnt felt any error from longtime ...and at the same time i did
[17:03] <spreadsheet> I don't think it should take this long.. it's been many minutes already
[17:03] <picard1421> i just did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:03] <Naznaz> I remember compiling the drivers myself @ 9.04
[17:03] <picard1421> why is it not booting in the KDE ... it still boots into CLI???
[17:03] <Naznaz> one moment
[17:04] <prodcutnews> virualbox --> ubuntu 10.04, but there are all links on the desktop, how i could get plain and simple desktop for 10.4 ubuntu
[17:04] <xangua> did you install KDM picard1421¿
[17:04] <picard1421> yes
[17:05] <perlsyntax> Naznaz,When your at boot how can you add more thing when it boot up?
[17:05] <Naznaz> ?
[17:05] <picard1421> i also asked this question last night.. but since its a fresh set of eyes ill ask again.. Is there anyway to do facial authentication from CLI... no GUI
[17:05] <picard1421> for logging in
[17:05] <xangua> i don't think so picard1421
[17:06] <Naznaz> perlsyntax, http://support.creative.com/welcome.aspx should have your drivers if you're lucky
[17:06] <picard1421> whats the lightest desktop i can use for facial authentication.. so basically that login screen bootup and then kill the entire desktop and respo's after bootup
[17:06] <Docteh> picard1421: the lightest desktop would be you figuring out what does the actual facial stuff and going from there
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: then when plymouth show up press ESC and you can watch the boot
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: or try some boot options
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | ubuntu
[17:07] <picard1421> is pam the only known one?
[17:07] <picard1421> im having problems compiling it anyway
[17:07] <[J|F]> Since installing Ubuntu 10.04, my windows wireless drivers don't work anymore.  The GUI says "Invalid Driver!".  I tried reinstalling the driver, no change.  It worked fine under 8.04.
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: the desktop is moot, you can use any gui login screen to then load into any desktop. You can use GDM to boot into KDE if you want
[17:08] <Docteh> you could probably also use gdm to log into a fullscreen gnome-terminal
[17:08] <galen> Hello
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> [J|F]: could try removing ndiswrapper with the --purge option, then reinstalling it
[17:08] <kerebrus> galen hello
[17:08] <picard1421> is there a lightweight login screen that allows you to customize the login stuff
[17:09] <picard1421> like background pictures after authenticaiton picture.. background colors etc.. fonts... ?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: slim is pretty light
[17:09] <perlsyntax> naznaz,Where are the linux drivers?
[17:09] <picard1421> ActionParsnip: is that customizeable
[17:09] <Docteh> picard1421: they're all open source :)
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: very
[17:09] <picard1421> "slim" ok.. thanks
[17:09] <Docteh> if it doesn't do a small thing you want, just add it ;-/
[17:10] <Docteh> for xorg is "intel" a restricted driver or a regular driver?
[17:11] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip, alright, will do, thanks
[17:11] <galen> I am still unable to connect with a wireless connection. When ever I click the Network manager it says disconnected.
[17:11] <[J|F]> ActionParsnip: Synaptic was not recognizing my installation CD as a software source, so I had installed ndiswrapper and ndisgtk using gdebi and the .deb files directly from the CD.  Synaptic still isn't recognizing the CD.  Perhaps that's the root of a bigger problem?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> [J|F]: does the cd mount?
[17:12] <detritux> hi, I'd like to do a recursive ls in a folder, but to stop at a given level (e.g. : do "ls -R", but stop at first recursive level)
[17:12] <detritux> any idea?
[17:13] <Pici> detritux: find /some/path -maxdepth 3    or similar
[17:13] <Docteh> detritux: that sounds like a job for "ls *"
[17:13] <Naznaz> perlsyntax,  oh sorry i just saw it, the linux drivers are here: http://connect.creativelabs.com/opensource/default.aspx this site mentions that they also have an IRC-channel here, #creative that might be able to help you more than I can
[17:14] <Pici> detritux: sorry, maxdepth 2
[17:14] <detritux> Docteh, I meant maxdepth 2
[17:14] <detritux> ok
[17:14] <[J|F]> ActionParsnip: Yes, I can access it in /media/, but when I try in Synaptic to "Add CD-Rom", then it says "Unable to Mount".  And apt-get update just says "Ign" when it tries to read the CD.
[17:14] <detritux> Pixi I'll try that
[17:15] <[J|F]> ActionParsnip: When I try to apt-get install ndisgtk, it says: Err cdrom://<somepath> File not found
[17:15] <detritux> @Pici ok, thanks that did the job
[17:16] <jqgc1> using samba 3, "unix charset=utf8; dos charset=CP850", locale: en_CA.UTF-8, when a user writes a file to a samba share, sometimes the resulting filename isn't in utf8 on the linux machine... ideas why?
[17:17] <Docteh> is samba 3 commonly in use yet?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> detritux: for i in `ls`; do echo "Folder: $i"; ls ./"$i"; done
[17:17] <jqgc1> docteh: yes, on 10.04 it's 3.4.7
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Docteh: yes, its default in lucid
[17:18] <Docteh> hah i didn't even notice
[17:18] <Teixeira> help
[17:18] <detritux> ActionParsnip: it worked with the find . -maxdepth but thanks anyway
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> detritux: will output the folder name, then its contents
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> mine outputs neater :)
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> for even nicer: for i in `ls`; do echo "Folder: $i"; ls ./"$i"; echo; done
[17:19] <galen> I am still unable to connect with a wireless connection. When ever I click the Network manager it says disconnected. Can someone help?
[17:19] <econdudeawesome> galen--right click, is wireless enabled?
[17:20] <ilovefairuz> ActionParsnip: 'tree'?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> galen: run: sudo lshw -C network    what is the product line of the wifi
[17:20] <econdudeawesome> galen as it connects it will say taht it is disconnected for a moment as it connects
[17:20] <galen> ok
[17:20] <[J|F]> ActionParsnip: Any ideas about my CD-ROM?
[17:20] <ilovefairuz> galen: pastebin its output
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> ilovefairuz: user only wants the contents of the one level subfolders of th pwd
[17:20] <econdudeawesome> galen do you have enough signal strength to connect? Do you have MAC filtering on the wireless access point?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> [J|F]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[17:21] <ilovefairuz> ActionParsnip: -L
[17:21] <mrandrzejak> hi all! can anyone recommend a password removing tool for PDFs? I have an ebook I bought from Amazon back in 2002 (a book called riptide) and it uses a 3rd party encryption tool that I cannot crack. Ive tried most everything. Amazon says it has no way to unlock the file unless I know the password. none of mine work so i am guessing it was an Amazon generated code. Any tips? Thanks!
[17:21] <econdudeawesome> !#ubuntu mrabdrzejak
[17:21] <econdudeawesome> !ubuntu | mrabdrzejak
[17:21] <galen> usually my connection (until i installed ubuntu) signal strength was excellent
[17:22] <econdudeawesome> !#ubuntu | mrabdrzejak
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> !illegal | mrandrzejak
[17:22] <oCean_> econdudeawesome: ?
[17:22] <econdudeawesome> there we go
[17:22] <mrandrzejak> ? i have ubuntu
[17:22] <econdudeawesome> !illegal |mrandrzejak
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> mrandrzejak: passwords are to keep those unwanteds out, so removing the password would violate this
[17:22] <econdudeawesome> thats what I meant to do
[17:23] <ilovefairuz> econdudeawesome: password cracking is not illegal per se
[17:23] <mrandrzejak> my file is not pirated. i purchased it, i have proof of purchase in my purchase history
[17:23] <xangua> econdudeawesome: illegal¿ did you read the part:  I bought
[17:23] <llutz> ilovefairuz: but offtopic here
[17:23] <oCean_> ilovefairuz: mrandrzejak we have no way of knowing if it's legally his or not. So it's offtopic
[17:23] <mrandrzejak> then why would ubuntu have "pdfcrack" in the reps??
[17:23] <ilovefairuz> econdudeawesome: recovering your ubuntu password is illegal and/or offtopic ?
[17:23] <mrandrzejak> do you want a link to my purchase?
[17:24] <ilovefairuz> oCean_: so is using live cds to chroot and passwd
[17:24] <webPragmatist> anyone here use mod wsgi
[17:24] <econdudeawesome> ilovefairuz I got the same treatment when I asked how to crack an excel password I put in place and promptly forgot, so I am returning the favor
[17:24] <webPragmatist> there's an error that has been fixed but it hasn't been patched in ubuntu … that producing a crapton of errors in apache… Exception KeyError: KeyError(140375698208576,)
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> mrandrzejak: then contact whom you purchased from for the password
[17:24] <econdudeawesome> ilovefairuz the question is how to crack a pdf password, not an ubuntu password
[17:24] <ilovefairuz> mrandrzejak: there are a few tools around have you tried searching ?
[17:24] <sahilm> how do I fix the overbold default fonts on lucid? Setting full hinting doesn't help.
[17:24] <mrandrzejak> i purchased it from amazon. they cant give me the code
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> mrandrzejak: if you purcased it then you are not getting wat you purchased and you should persue them
[17:25] <mrandrzejak> ive tried almost everything, even some windows programs
[17:25] <oCean_> econdudeawesome: ilovefairuz mrandrzejak Would you please drop the discussion?
[17:25] <xu> w
[17:25] <mrandrzejak> why? i purchased this item
[17:25] <mrandrzejak> there is absolutely nothing i am doing wrong here
[17:25] <oCean_> mrandrzejak: we have no way of knowing. Drop it
[17:26] <mrandrzejak> so let me make a pdf of my pruchase history. will that work for you?
[17:26] <ilovefairuz> oCean_: and we have no way of knowing wether people are trying to other others' ubuntu machines
[17:26] <mrandrzejak> pdfcrack doesnt work
[17:26] <sahilm> nobody else thinks the fonts on lucid are overbold and fuzzy?
[17:26] <chinga2madre> lucid looks and works perfect
[17:26] <chinga2madre> how dare you diss it!
[17:27] <sahilm> chinga2madre: the fonts are too bold. Full hinting doesn't help.
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> chinga2madre: its quite bloated compared to other distros
[17:27] <blendmaster1024_> what is the maximum file size in ubuntu one? and what is the maximum bandwidth per month for a free account?
[17:27] <oCean_> sahilm: this channel is for technical support only, it's not a discussion channel. Feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic though
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> !ot | blendmaster1024_
[17:28] <econdudeawesome> sahilm they look that way for my monitor before I install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:28] <blendmaster1024_> ActionParsnip, that is not offtopic! not even kind of!
[17:28] <econdudeawesome> sahilm that makes it a ton better
[17:28] <econdudeawesome> !ubuntuone|econdudeawesome
[17:28] <sahilm> econdudeawesome: ubuntu-restricted-extras just installs ms fonts. That doesn't help.
[17:28] <blendmaster1024_> !msgthebot > econdudeawesome
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> blendmaster1024_: this is for people with issues with ubuntu, ubuntuone is working on your system you just have a casual query about it service which is offtopic
[17:29] <econdudeawesome> sahilm have you tried using a different font? serif works for my monitor
[17:29] <webPragmatist> http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/issues/detail?id=197
[17:29] <webPragmatist> er
[17:29] <webPragmatist> is it possible to make dig show all the a records for a domain?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> blendmaster1024_: if your ubuntuone client is not connecting etc then this is the right channel for you, otherise offtopic is where you should ask
[17:29] <sahilm> econdudeawesome: I'm talking about font rendering in general.
[17:29] <sahilm> econdudeawesome: They're just too bold.
[17:29] <maco> mrandrzejak: from Planet Ubuntu: http://9w2pju.blogspot.com/2010/07/recover-your-pdf-password.html
[17:29] <blendmaster1024_> ActionParsnip, except this is the support channel for ubuntu, hence the place to ask. stop redirecting me to offtopic for a real question! they'll redirect me back in here because I have a question!
[17:29] <econdudeawesome> dunno. I use LXDE/Lubuntu and it's freaking sweet. Never ahve a problem with the fonts
[17:30] <maco> sahilm: are you sure your screen is at its native resolution? is the dpi set properly?
[17:30] <sahilm> econdudeawesome: I'm using Gnome. With LXDE th rendering is different.
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> blendmaster1024_: yes, if the software is having issues or you cannot connect to something, its a question for offtopic
[17:30] <sahilm> maco: yes.
[17:30] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip is there no Ubuntuone channel? Would you be willing to field his question in a pm?
[17:30] <econdudeawesome> sahilm is your screen refresh rate set appropriately>
[17:30] <blendmaster1024_> ActionParsnip, I have two files, both of which have not uploaded. they're both >200m. hence "what is the max filesize".
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: i dont use itpersonally. I use dropbox
[17:31] <sahilm> econdudeawesome: yes.
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> blendmaster1024_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9647351#post9647351
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> blendmaster1024_: your auto away message says bed too, may want to change that :)
[17:31] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip nor do I. Does anyone here use UbuntuOne and would be willing to field blendmaster1024_ 's question?
[17:31] <sahilm> econdudeawesome: I guess I'll have to try something besides Gnome.
[17:31] <mrandrzejak> OK, here is my Amazon.com receipt for purchasing my PDF... http://tinyurl.com/2bbs6tr
[17:32] <sahilm> econdudeawesome: I'll give LXDE a whirl.
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> mrandrzejak: its still to be chased with the supplier
[17:32] <econdudeawesome> sahilm you probably won't be disappointed
[17:32] <econdudeawesome> sahilm the Lubuntu desktop is a little buggy tho--be sure to backup before you install
[17:32] <mrandrzejak> whats the point of john, pdfcrack, etc?
[17:33] <Spyder1> The average nick length for channel ubuntu is 7.19 characters.
[17:33] <sahilm> econdudeawesome: I'll just install LXDE and leave gnome as it was.
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Spyder1: how is that useful?
[17:33] <sahilm> econdudeawesome: rather than installing lubuntu.
[17:33] <Spyder1> The percentage of channel operators on channel ubuntu is 0.1 percent.
[17:33] <econdudeawesome> sahilm good plan
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> mrandrzejak: i'm sure they are cracking apps, however possible illegal activities are not condoned here
[17:34] <mrandrzejak> how is it illegal when ive posted my receipt for all to see
[17:34] <rww> ActionParsnip, blendmaster1024_: #ubuntuone is a better location for Ubuntu One questions than #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> mrandrzejak: i can make a receipt too, i have graphics packages
[17:34] <blendmaster1024_> rww, ah, thanks
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> rww: certainly not here thought right...
[17:36] <rww> ActionParsnip: here is fine too, if it's a question about using the client (which ships with Ubuntu, after all)
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> thats cool, sorry blendmaster1024_
[17:36] <draperon12> Hello every one! I want to know why Ardour will not start up and behave like a good boy. It gives an error message saying It could not start jack. So i install jack control thingie and it says it cannot connect to the server. This is so tiering, its late in the night and I wana make some quiet tunes (for the night). Thanks for the help, im using Ubuntu 10.04 and i cant wait till the meerkat is out
[17:37] <ilovefairuz> ActionParsnip: that's very inappropriate, to accuse someone trying to get genuine help of document forging
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> ilovefairuz: made sense to me
[17:37] <[J|F]> ActionParsnip: Ok I managed to get apt to recognize the CD, it always expects it to mount at /cdrom, not /media/something.  Anyways I reinstalled all of ndisgtk and it still says "
[17:37] <[J|F]> Invalid Driver!".
[17:37] <mrandrzejak> draperon12 ... you probably need JACK for Ardour to run properly
[17:37] <draperon12> ?
[17:38] <draperon12> mrandrzejak: I got jack controll
[17:38] <erUSUL> draperon12: you installed ardour an qjackctl but; did you actually installed jack itself ?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> [J|F]: gah, yeah you can create a symlink if you wish: sudo ln -s /media/cdrom0 /cdrom
[17:38] <mrandrzejak> do you initialize JACK before going into Ardour?
[17:38] <blendmaster1024_> draperon12, jackd, the commandline server. run 'sudo jackd -d alsa'
[17:38] <galen> I went to preferences and found that it says Wireless connection is disabled. But when I right clicked the signal icon Enable wireless was checked. What does that mean?
[17:39] <mrandrzejak> do you want my password for Amazon? How did I make this doc in one minute?
[17:39] <draperon12> blendmaster1024_: Nothing seems to go wron
[17:39] <draperon12> *wrong
[17:39] <blendmaster1024_> draperon12, then you should be good! just open your app with that running.
[17:40] <blendmaster1024_> draperon12, btw you don't need the sudo if you didn't install with realtime priority.
[17:40] <draperon12> blendmaster1024_: Jack says it cant start jack again
[17:41] <Pici> mrandrzejak: While it may be legal, cracking is still not something that we discuss in this channel.
[17:41] <Ganymede> how would i go about viewing the default version of the file /etc/init/mysql.conf from mysql-server package 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.3 from the repositories without installing it?
[17:41] <mrandrzejak> am i allowed to talk about "pdfcrack"?
[17:42] <blendmaster1024_> mrandrzejak, try ##linux or so, they're a bit more lenient.
[17:42] <Naznaz> I got a question about bash (?) and my PS1: I'm currently using: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/4Ne5Eu7A (yes I copied it :)) and want to know if there's a possibility to prefix the path with ... if it's deeper than three paths and prefixed with nothing if it isn't deeper. Thanks for your help
[17:43] <draperon12> erUSUL: JACKEQ?
[17:43] <Pici> Naznaz: #bash is the best resource for bash programming questions.
[17:43] <Tusserte> hi i'm a beginner and i just installed linux. i did it from a screen that had a few text options, one of which was just install linux.  when i did that it went into a loading screen for a while and then took me to a login screen.  since i didn't know the login i tried restarting. now the computer is stuck in a loading screen. what's wrong?
[17:43] <Naznaz> thanks
[17:43] <shawn146> hello
[17:43] <shawn146> is lubuntu the same as ubuntu?
[17:43] <erUSUL> !info jackd | draperon12
[17:44] <erUSUL> draperon12: more help probably in #ubuntustudio
[17:44] <ZykoticK9> shawn146, lubuntu uses a different user interface then ubuntu which uses Gnome.
[17:44] <shawn146> ah
[17:44] <xangua> shawn146: lubuntu is ubuntu wih lxde desktop
[17:44] <galen> I went to preferences and found that it says Wireless connection is disabled. But when I right clicked the signal icon Enable wireless was checked. What does that mean? Or did Just ask a stupid question?
[17:45] <shawn146> the folks in the linux channel told me it was the same thing
[17:45] <shawn146> how do i setup a video driver?
[17:46] <ZykoticK9> shawn146, are you currently using lubuntu?  and what graphics card?
[17:46] <shawn146> ATI Rage Pro
[17:46] <shawn146> agp
[17:46] <oCean_> Ganymede: 'sudo apt-get install mysql-server --download-only' will download the appropriate .deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:47] <shawn146> -master2587.
[17:47] <shawn146> oops
[17:48] <shawn146> thats nothing
[17:48] <oCean_> Ganymede: after that, dpkg-deb -x <packagename> /tmp/mydir will extract all of the .deb files
[17:48] <slinker1> hehe
[17:49] <airtonix> what is the new convention for run your own custom scripts on startup (prior to login) ? is it this ? >>>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto
[17:49] <kochii> hi all, planning to get rid of xp from my lenovo sl400 laptop and replace it by ubuntu on it...I couldn't find drivers for my hotkeys on lenovo site, anybody had similar problem ? or know a solution to this ? thanks
[17:50] <m15k> hi, is there any chance for gpu encoding on ubuntu with nvidia chipset?
[17:50] <m15k> *decoding
[17:50] <ZykoticK9> oCean_, it seems to work both ways, isn't it unusual that a switch comes after the package name - and how can it work both before and after?
[17:50] <shawn146> -_-
[17:50] <Tusserte> hi i'm a beginner and i just installed linux. i did it from a screen that had a few text options, one of which was just install linux. when i did that it went into a loading screen for a while and then took me to a login screen. since i didn't know the login i tried restarting. now the computer is stuck in a loading screen. what's wrong?
[17:50] <ZykoticK9> oCean_, referring to the --download-only
[17:51] <oCean_> ZykoticK9: ah :)
[17:51] <shawn146> good bye then
[17:51] <shawn146> i will attmept linux another time
[17:51] <shawn146> -_-
[17:51] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[17:51] <nimrod10> http://gregdekspeaks.wordpress.com/2010/07/29/red-hat-16-canonical-1/
[17:51] <oCean_> ZykoticK9: the program just reads ALL arguments, and then parses them to see if it fits, so the position of the argument doesn't matter
[17:52] <maco> nimrod10: thats unrelated to support
[17:52] <pradeep> hi everyone
[17:52] <stevieman> Whenever I try to run a game (frozen-bubble, colem) in fullscreen mode I end up with a problem. First the window is the same size as the original non fullscreen window. Second the window is shifted up and to the left and third the contents of the window (the game itself) breaks out of the window up slightly (about 20 pixels or so). Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening?
[17:52] <nimrod10> sorry maco , thought it will be useful for everyone to read that
[17:52] <uRock> 'evening wildc4rd
[17:52] <maco> nimrod10: its still offtopic flamebait
[17:52] <ZykoticK9> oCean_, that makes sence, but i'm still a little surprised - i though ordering was typically important with switches (i guess not).  Thanks.
[17:53] <nimrod10> maco sorry again but it is just an idea worth sharing
[17:53] <oCean_> ZykoticK9: in shell scripting more so than in programming!
[17:54] <maco> nimrod10: share it elsewhere then
[17:55] <kochii> anybody installed ubuntu on lenovo sl400 before ?
[17:56] <uRock> kochii, I have it on a 3000J series
[17:56] <uRock> runs great
[17:56] <uRock> are you having issues?
[17:56] <kochii> uRock: where did you get the device drivers ? from lenovo site ?
[17:57] <b0ot> Hi
[17:57] <m15k> Anyone get VLC + GPU Dec working?
[17:57] <uRock> I used the ones in Hardware Drivers in the System> Administration menu
[17:57] <b0ot> I currently have a device that does ip over usb, but the device isn't picked up by ubuntu. Is there something I can install that would enable ip over usb
[17:57] <b0ot> or do i need device specific drivers
[17:59] <kochii> uRock: interesting. and your hotkeys and everything work fine right ?
[17:59] <b0ot> or is there any type of generic driver that enables ip over usb?
[17:59] <uRock> Mine is a desktop without hotkeys
[18:00] <zetter> can anyone help me with playing an .asx files under ubuntu 10? i tried vlc, gstreamer plugins and all sorts of codec packages and the ubuntu extra restricted...
[18:00] <Sevith> zetter, Try VLC
[18:00] <Sevith> zetter, Nvm.lol
[18:01] <kochii> uRock: oh I see. I use hotkeys very often and couldnt find drivers for it on lenovo site which kinda sucks...
[18:01] <Ubuntus> is there a way to make my cpu's 2 cores work? Because in the Gnome applet the lets you see the performane of the CPU says is 100%, but in the system monitor only 1 is at 100%
[18:02] <Daekdroom> Ubuntus, it's your GNOME applet configuration that is messed up.
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> i thought you can set what cpu the gnome applet monitors.. add 2 applets and set one for each cpu
[18:03] <slinker1> you can set it for multiples also
[18:03] <uRock> Ubuntus, It is normal for the system to fluctuate between both cpus
[18:03] <RfooTfoo> anyone familiar with mod_ssl and apache2?
[18:03] <bluebaron> anyone  know how to mount a windows vm drive in linux?
[18:03] <Ubuntus> Dr_Willis: That is what i did, i choose i CPU core to work 100%, and then the other one at 100% too, but the system monitor only shows 1 working 100%
[18:03] <oCean_> RfooTfoo: there is #httpd where more users might know
[18:04] <RfooTfoo> thanks oCean_
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> bluebaron:  if its a widnows 'share' you can access it as you would any other share on the network.
[18:04] <Guest94808> sometimes after leaving my computer running over night it is in screen saver mode and when awaken it won't come out fully. The cursor jumps between the 2 monitors and the panels are gone. Reboot is only solution.
[18:04] <Tusserte> hi, i just installed ubuntu and i don't know the username/password for my first login. i wasn't prompted to set anything up when i installed the os
[18:04] <uRock> bluebaron, have you installed guest additions?
[18:04] <bluebaron> uRock: Dr_Willis: i don't want to boot the machine i just want to mount the drive ... i've done it before
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> Tusserte:  that seems very odd. its one of the first thing it asks you
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> bluebaron:  You mean access teh vm  hard drive file ?
[18:05] <uRock> bluebaron, that is beyond me, sorry
[18:05] <bluebaron> Dr_Willis: yes
[18:05] <Ubuntus> Its like nobody cares
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> bluebaron:  i would have to check the virtualbox docs. Ive seen it done.. but not done it myself in ages.
[18:05] <Tusserte> when i installed there was a little list of options. i pressed enter on install ubuntu and that was it
[18:05] <bluebaron> Dr_Willis: k
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> nice of Ubuntus to ask a question then leave.. oh well.
[18:08] <fc0> #ubuntu
[18:08] <slinker1> Dr_Willis: he's not paying to sit around waiting for an answer :)
[18:08] <Jon80> Hi all
[18:08] <fc0> hi
[18:08] <Guest94808> Are many people having problems coming out of screen saver mode?
[18:08] <atx_> hey guys, so I am looking for an ftp that I can use on the cli. any suggestions?
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> atx_:  first suggestiojn.. why are you using ftp in this day in age... why not ssh/scp/sftp ?
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> atx_:  theres tools that can do ftp in the cli. one is 'ftp' :) another is 'mc' (midnight commander)
[18:09] <Sasquatch7> How would I look at the incoming connections coming into my pc?
[18:09] <Jon80> Stupid question, but Is there an FTPServer for Ubuntu that is X-based (is that correct described?, So you don't need to enter Terminal)?
[18:10] <atx_> ftp is already installed on ubuntu, right?
[18:10] <Jon80> Mmm.... It is? :-P
[18:10] <Sevith> Whats the object name for individual cores in conky?
[18:11] <philinux> Guest94808: how about disabling screensaver and turn monitors off. Save power
[18:11] <Jon80> Do i need to use the Terminal to use it?
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> atx_:  thers no ftp server installed by default.
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Jon80:  no it is not.
[18:11] <atx_> thanks
[18:11] <Jon80> Ok, so do you recommend one for me?
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Jon80:  a ftp SERVER has no real gui at all. You can config/administer it via several gui tools.
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> Jon80:  why do you need a ftp server at all? Theres numerous ftp clients with a gui.
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> Jon80:  most file managers these days can do FTP. the gnome file manager can
[18:12] <Jon80> I need to easaly send files to a friend
[18:12]  * slinker1 wonders if jon80 mens ftp client?
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> Jon80:  is he running a ftp server?
[18:12] <Sevith> Whats the object name for individual cores in conky?
[18:12] <Jon80> No, that's why i need to run one ;-)
[18:12] <atx_> thanks
[18:13] <slinker1> proftpd vsftpd are two in the repos
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> Jon80:  you got it backwards.. if you are 'sending' it to him..  he needs a server.. OR he needs to connect to your server.. to 'get' a file
[18:13] <Sevith> nvm got it
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> Jon80:  i would suggest not using FTP for this. use some site like drop.io or dropbox, or ubuntuone.  or use ssh/scp
[18:14] <Jon80> Dr_Willis, i know how the server / client works over the FTP protocol, I
[18:14] <Jon80> I'm just completley new to Linux :-S
[18:14] <slinker1> your friend on windows?
[18:14] <Jon80> Yes
[18:14] <Jon80> Actualy i Think he have a Ubuntu installation as well
[18:15] <kerebrus> Anyone know how I can edit grub to allow me to boot from ubuntu or windowsxp?
[18:15] <delac> Any Audacious users out there? Could anyone of you tell me if you are affected by bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious/+bug/584483
[18:15] <delac> So basically just open Audacious in GTK UI mode and select Playback->Repeat. Then close and restart Audacious. And check if the mark is there or not.
[18:15] <delac> If the mark is gone, you are affected by this bug.
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> kerebrus:  clarify what you are doing?  grub lets you boot up 'windows' or 'ubuntu.'
[18:17] <kerebrus> Dr_Willis im trying to boot from 2 seperate harddrives, my main drive is running ubuntu my secondary is running Windows xp. I want to be able to select which os to boot to at startup.
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> kerebrus:  grub2 auto set that up  - i got 2 hard drives.. one os on each hard drive. i dident have to do anything to it.
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> kerebrus:  'sudo update-grub' from ubuntu saw and set up windows on the 2nd hd.
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> kerebrus:  update-grub will even see the OS's i got installed on my usb hard drives. (which confsed me at first)
[18:20] <kerebrus> Dr_Willis brb rebooting to see if that worked.
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> Jon80:  if your friend is using windows. and you want hem to connect to your machine and retrieve files.  ssh and winscp will be much easier to get going.
[18:20] <Jon80> SSh or WinSCP, i need to google that ;-)
[18:21] <Jon80> Thanks Dr_Willis! This Ubuntu Channel is awsome for Newbies like me :-)
[18:21] <slinker1> putty is probably the easiest jon80
[18:21] <ZykoticK9> delac, :)  I know what the issue is.  It's only Audacious-GTKui that suffers from your bug!  Audacious works fine!
[18:22] <delac> ZykoticK9: yes, I know. But does this affect anyone else than me?
[18:22] <ZykoticK9> delac, it affects me
[18:22] <SubCool> hey, how do i figure out my graphics card from my laptop? whats the cli command?
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> Jon80:  ssh AND winscp... :)
[18:22] <brummbaer> SubCool: lspci | grep vga
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> Jon80:  if you dont know what SSH is.. :) definatly learn it.. with it you basiclly will see why no one wants to use ftp any more.
[18:22] <SubCool> awesome- ty
[18:23] <delac> ZykoticK9: Nice! or not... could you make a comment to that bug?
[18:23] <slinker1> jon80 try http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[18:23] <ZykoticK9> SubCool, actually i think you need "lspci | grep -i vga" or "lspci | grep VGA"
[18:23] <SubCool> ya, didnt work
[18:23] <ZykoticK9> delac, in process...
[18:23] <kerebrus> Dr_Willis I didnt log into windows to make 100% positive but it brung up a os selection screen so thank you, been trying to do that under windows using boot.ini and your way is much much simpler
[18:23] <SubCool> ya, VGA- ty...
[18:23] <delac> ZykoticK9: Thanks!
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> kerebrus:  you could keep windows alone with its own bootloader. and linux on its own hd with the grub on that hd.. and just use the BIOS menus/features to boot what os you wanted
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> Bye all.
[18:24] <kerebrus> Dr_Willis yea I was trying that but couldnt find that option under my bios
[18:26] <uppp> hi, does a livecd (from usb) need a hard disk to run?  when i start it in 'live' mode, it just prints errors for hours .. (because my harddrive is corrupt)
[18:28] <PureSine> hi, I'm very new to linux, I have downloaded thunderbird but have no idea how to install it, I installed some other application using synaptic but what I should do with the folder that I have  downloaded from mozilla ??? I double clicked ona file named thunderbird-bin but nothing happened! there is no setup or install file !
[18:29] <uppp> PureSine:  go to a terminal and write thunderbird&
[18:29] <uppp> if you did apt-get install thunderbird, it is already installed
[18:30] <uppp> you can also try 'whereis thunderbird' to see if it is installed
[18:30] <PureSine> no I just clicked on download link of mozilla
[18:30] <PureSine> should I do it with sudo  as an admin ?
[18:30] <xangua> PureSine: you can install thunderbird from repositories
[18:31] <uppp> do 'sudo apt-get install thunderbird' in a terminal
[18:31] <mcrawfor> hey guys, anyone know a nice little utility to keep my kerberos tickets up to date, and bug me to re-enter my password when they expire?
[18:31] <PureSine> I've already have thunderbird folder on my machine , I don't want to get it again
[18:32] <PureSine> I presume apt-get will download it again, isn't it  ?
[18:32] <xangua> PureSine: no, it will install it from repositories
[18:33] <PureSine> hmm, so it is registered in repositories or I have to do it by hand ?
[18:34] <uppp> You can update the repositories if you havent in a while with: 'sudo apt-get update
[18:34] <uppp> '
[18:34] <Pici> PureSine: You should always install software from the repositories if you can, that way you are guaranteed security updates.
[18:35] <PureSine> aha so I should delete the downloaded file and do it again ?
[18:36] <Pici> PureSine: Delete the downloading file and use synaptic or your favorite package management tool to install it from the repositories.
[18:36] <pushdown> how do i show software came from restricted repo in synaptic or in another tool
[18:36] <PureSine> I missed windows !
[18:36] <PureSine> ok thanks
[18:38] <xangua> pushdown: you can see it in synaptic
[18:38] <pushdown> how can i
[18:38] <pushdown> i can figure out
[18:38] <pushdown> *cannot
[18:39] <Guest40049> Hi, i have a pc with ubuntu server 10.04, it ran for month (before 10.04 with 8.04) but now the pc halt at the boot start. If i boot with a liveusb it just halt after selecting language and starting the installation. I'm sure the cpu temperature is right and the rams are ok. what can be the problem?
[18:39] <xangua> there is a side bar when you open it and there is a button called 'Origins' pushdown
[18:39] <pushdown> oh thanks
[18:39] <pushdown> i missed it thanks
[18:40] <delac> ZykoticK9: What kind of change did you expect in the Playback settings when you enabled the "Continue playback on startup"?
[18:41] <ZykoticK9> delac, well i was hoping it would just revert all settings on restart.  i'm super surprised!  i tried to apport-collect on your bug and it tells me NOT to and file a new bug?  i'm currently asking in bugs.
[18:43] <sam92> hi, i'm trying to configure squid in ubuntu 10.04. the problem i have is that it doesn't work when i boot. i always have to restart squid so that it can be used. any ideas where the problem could be?
[18:43] <[J|F]> Holy crap!  So it turns out that to get your Windows Wireless Driver to work, you need not only the ".inf" file but also the ".sys" file that comes with it.  Why is this VITAL detail not mentioned anywhere in the Ubuntu help documents?
[18:44] <yuvilio> My 9.10 ubuntu-server amd64 install on a RAID machine is stalling on the grub2 installation. It tries to do it and just bounces back ton the install menu. anyone have any ideas? (using 9.10 because 10.04's installer has RAID issues)
[18:44] <aeon-ltd> [J|F]: because thats not always the case
[18:44] <delac> ZykoticK9: Don't know whats whit the apport. But I don't think the setting should revert anything, but just automatically continue playing the song after restart.
[18:45] <ZykoticK9> delac, the playback settings seem to be the only thing affected.
[18:45] <delac> ZykoticK9: And it kinda does that. EXCEPT that it seems to pick the song it starts to play at RANDOM.
[18:45] <SubCool> Ok- i have a good question this time. i am trying to setup a dual monitor setup, but the directions im following indicate to simply backup xorg.conf. the file doesnt exist there.
[18:45] <SubCool> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[18:45] <[J|F]> aeon-ltd: But the files didn't even mention that .sys files might be needed.  It's included in the instructions on the web, but that's not much use if you can't connect to the internet.
[18:45] <SubCool> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[18:46] <n0a1ias> hey how do i edit partitions?
[18:46] <ZykoticK9> SubCool, how i create an xorg.conf at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[18:46] <delac> ZykoticK9: I'm starting to wonder if we are speaking about the same problem here?
[18:46] <glick> can anyone recommend a good hd camcorder that works with ubuntu?
[18:46] <ZykoticK9> delac, suffle random doesn't stay after restarting.
[18:46] <SubCool> http://pastebin.com/1zjL2cTN
[18:47] <SubCool> i have to create it? i thought that was done during setup.
[18:47] <ZykoticK9> SubCool, xorg.conf isn't used by default
[18:47] <SubCool> man things change..
[18:47] <melengo> gugnbk
[18:47] <SubCool> thanks-
[18:47] <melengo> ken you help my ebout hacking
[18:47] <n0a1ias> how do i create a partion with disk utility
[18:48] <jguzikowski> Battery 0: Charging, 74%, 00:18:46 until charged
[18:48] <jguzikowski> Battery 0: design capacity 2200 mAh, last full capacity 1128 mAh = 51%
[18:48] <jguzikowski> is that bad?
[18:48] <melengo> ubuntu
[18:50] <vcabba> How to get text path of directory in Nautilus? (It shows it with buttons now, but I want text)?
[18:50] <erUSUL> vcabba: crtl + l
[18:50] <delac> ZykoticK9: For me it does work. Playback->Shuffle does have effect even after restart. The tickmark however is not visible.
[18:51] <vcabba> -erUSUL- thankyou.
[18:51] <Naznaz> I got a question about the gnome terminal, what are the escape sequences for colors in it, and is there any website containing a list? And is this even the right place to ask or should I go to the gnome IRC?
[18:51] <jguzikowski> can anyone decipher that acpi output?
[18:52] <ZykoticK9> delac, hmmm, perhaps the invisible checkmark is the problem then, i wasn't actually testing the features, i was just going on the missing checkmarks.
[18:52] <fishcooker> what package to installed for making internal speaker works seamlessly.. on windows work but ubuntu not?!
[18:52] <n0a1ias> how do i create a partition?
[18:52] <SubCool> ZykoticK9, hey- i followed those directions, but it says that there is still a graphicaly interface on. which i would assume was this one. Should i follow the directions it says to manually force this closed? i think it just deleted the locked file though.
[18:53] <maco> fishcooker: try linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic
[18:53] <melengo> what
[18:53] <ZykoticK9> SubCool, you can't do everything from inside Xorg!  the directions explain some of that...
[18:53] <delac> ZykoticK9: yes, all the (repeat, shuffle, no playlist advance and stop after current song) do work even after restart, but the tickmark doesnt show. Thats the core of my bugreport.
[18:53] <fishcooker> thanks for the quick response maco
[18:53] <SubCool> ZykoticK9, i just said that-
[18:53] <aeon-ltd> n0a1ias: if your in gparted, shrink one, via right clicking on it, then in the free space right click create new
[18:53] <maco> fishcooker: thatll pull in newer sound drivers
[18:54] <fishcooker> i'll try
[18:54] <maco> fishcooker: if it doesnt help, then either its a configuration issue (more than one sound card? might be sending to wrong one) or a kernel bug
[18:54] <fishcooker> nope just one
[18:54] <fishcooker> snd-hda-intel
[18:54] <ZykoticK9> SubCool, see the warning about logging you out!
[18:54] <SubCool> it said that it would auto log me out of this session although it didnt. I dont wanna delete the lock file and Mess things up. Do i just log out of here and switch over the C A F1? - wouldnt there still be an xsession due to the login?
[18:54] <SubCool> ZykoticK9, Ya- i saw the damn line.
[18:55] <SubCool> There are only 6 of them
[18:55] <maco> fishcooker: the thing for debugging is the script at http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh  ... if you download and run it, itll put data about your audio system into a link and then someone here can read that data and maybe make sense of it
[18:55] <erkan^> !joomla
[18:55] <erkan^> :)
[18:56] <fishcooker> i've sent it with the link
[18:56] <maco> fishcooker: and it sounds stupid but... ya know...check your volume settings in alsamixer ... lots of bugs get filed where the answer is "unmute pcm"
[18:56] <fishcooker> yip2 i know that..
[18:56] <fishcooker> :D
[18:56] <crackguy> how do i make the file browser to show the location address (/home/dir/etc/) instead of (Home Dir Etc) in the address bar...?
[18:56] <maco> crackguy: ctrl+L
[18:57] <crackguy> maco, can I make it permanent rather than pressing ctrl+l all the time?
[18:57] <maco> crackguy: in gconf-editor, i think so, but i dont use gnome, so i havent actually checked what the key is
[18:58] <crackguy> maco, thank you..
[18:58] <Guest87141> hiya anyone know how to edit video with pitivi and render uncompressed, what i want to do is just cut a part of it
[18:58] <fishcooker> maco... should i restart mybox after install the package?!
[18:58] <maco> fishcooker: yse
[18:59] <MarioG> Hi, i have a pc with ubuntu server 10.04, it ran for month (before 10.04 with 8.04) but now the pc halt at the boot start. If i boot with a liveusb it just halt after selecting language and starting the installation. I'm sure the cpu temperature is right and the rams are ok. what can be the problem?
[19:00]  * travis____ repeats question: Anyone know how to render uncompressed video with pitivi, what i want it to do is just cut a part of it
[19:00] <datacrusher> im having some issues with locking up a gnome desktop. i need it to enter a slideshow with pictures, but the pictures are remotely on a dimanic samba share
[19:00] <profxavier> hi, I would like to change the email address from my crontab [as a user] to a different address, I was told this is done by adjusting the MAILTO, but I am unsure of where to change this.. can someone point me in the right direction ?
[19:00] <millerd> Hi Ubuntu, I have a question
[19:00] <datacrusher> so i can add more pictures, or remove and the screensaver is updated
[19:01] <abhijit> travis____, meanwhile check pitivi help docs wiki etc
[19:01] <datacrusher> any clues?
[19:01] <ilovefairuz> MarioG: could be a faulty hard disk or a card
[19:01] <abhijit> !ask | millerd
[19:01] <travis____> abhijit, i did already nothing usefull whats why i came here
[19:01] <travis____> :S
[19:01] <chilicuil> is there a way to list all upstart/init.d daemons running at 1 momment?
[19:01] <ilovefairuz> datacrusher: mount with fuse?
[19:01] <millerd> I have multiple computers installed via image in our educational computer lab, how can I manage them all from one computer? Someone suggested pssh but that seems a little complicated. What can I do?
[19:02] <crazyjd> I have a bug in my ubuntu
[19:02] <llutz> profxavier: crontab -e   , add/adjust MAILTO="you@somewhere.com"
[19:02] <crazyjd> whenever
[19:02] <profxavier> llutz, where, @ the top of the file ?
[19:02] <crazyjd> I try to switch off my touchpad
[19:02] <MarioG> ilovefairuz, i do not think so, if i place the hd in another pc it run well
[19:02] <llutz> profxavier: yes
[19:02] <ZykoticK9> travis____, if it's a simple video cut edit, you might want to check out avidemux if pitivi gives to issue.  just a suggestion ;)
[19:02] <profxavier> llutz, thank you
[19:02] <crazyjd> and switch it on again... my touchpad and my mouse both fail
[19:03] <travis____> ZykoticK9, tried avidemux, however it seems not to be able to render the video in question
[19:03] <erUSUL> !info puppet | millerd
[19:03] <ZykoticK9> travis____, are you able to play the video?
[19:03] <crackguy> how can i change icon of a location launcher on desktop
[19:03] <travis____> ZykoticK9, yes, flawlessly, it has been recorded with xvidcap
[19:03] <crazyjd> whenever I Sswitch off and on my touchpad with the button probided on my laptop
[19:03] <crazyjd> my ubuntu crashes
[19:03] <ZykoticK9> travis____, good luck.  i got nothin' ;)
[19:04] <crazyjd>  what should I do
[19:04] <travis____> ZykoticK9, lmao thanks anyway
[19:04] <ilovefairuz> crackguy: right-click and select properties, click the icon
[19:04] <abhijit> travis____, kdenlive is good choice
[19:04] <testi_> MarioG, sometimes it helps disabling usb-related legacy and workaround settings in USB when trying to boot from USB. e.g. once i had to disable a OS/2 related USB workaround in BIOS settings and once i had to disable USB 1.1
[19:04] <testi_> *replace USB with BIOS once
[19:04] <ritztech> anyone heard of a way/ application to Run from a webpage to run commands on a Linux terminal
[19:04] <travis____> abhijit, i will try that
[19:05] <abhijit> travis____, you really give it a try. its work of it.
[19:05] <MarioG> testi_, ok i'll try thank you for your time
[19:05] <abhijit> travis____, worth*
[19:05] <delac> ZykoticK9: do you happend to use Crossfade plugin with the Audacious?
[19:05] <travis____> abhijit, can run it even under gnome?
[19:05] <ritztech> but not have direct access to the Bash just push buttons/and such
[19:05] <abhijit> travis____, yes sure
[19:06] <ZykoticK9> delac, i don't actually use audacious.
[19:06] <delac> ZykoticK9: ok, nevermind then. but thanks for you help this far!
[19:06] <ilovefairuz> ritztech: http://phpshell.sourceforge.net/
[19:06] <crackguy> is there a chat room for empathy support?
[19:08] <aeon-ltd> crackguy: i suppose #empathy ?
[19:08] <crackguy> aeon-ltd, no one!
[19:08] <ZykoticK9> crackguy, "Visit #empathy on GIMPnet for Empathy-specific discussion" i have no idea what Gimpnet is though :(
[19:08] <crazyjd> I want support in relation with my touchpad
[19:08] <profxavier> irc.gimp.net ?
[19:08] <crazyjd> crackguy what issues do you have with empathy
[19:08] <crackguy> zykes-, lol, i will find it out..
[19:09] <crackguy> crazyjd, i can't see invitation of file send from other users using msn messenger on windows
[19:09] <ilovefairuz> ZykoticK9: irc.gimp.org
[19:09] <accrobyte> Msg/ NickServ REGISTER Amethist25 accrobyte@gmail.com
[19:09] <profxavier> accrobyte, ops :D
[19:09] <ZykoticK9> crackguy, see ilovefairuz above
[19:09] <abhijit> accrobyte, not msg/ its /msg
[19:09] <accrobyte> ups
[19:09] <profxavier> and you should always register in a status window
[19:09] <profxavier> NEVER in a channel/PM window
[19:10] <crackguy> thanks
[19:10] <profxavier> crackguy, irc.gimp.net exists as well
[19:11] <accrobyte> ok thanks just thangfed pasword so all fine now
[19:11] <accrobyte> was going a bit too fast
[19:11] <crackguy> wow 49 people there
[19:11] <erkan^> !directory
[19:11] <crazyjd> Hmm... then probably you'll have to run to empathy support crackguy
[19:12] <erkan^> !Dictionary
[19:12] <crazyjd> I have a problem with my touchpad when I press the button on the laptop to switch it off
[19:12] <crazyjd> it hangs
[19:12] <crazyjd> what should I do
[19:12] <erUSUL> !fishing | erkan^
[19:12] <philinux> erkan^: ubottu says no
[19:12] <crazyjd> some one help me
[19:12] <BromaxSux> having troubles logging on to yahoo in pidgin 2.6.6
[19:12] <millerd> It looks like puppet is an excellent tool for enterprise / server management but if I just have a dozen or so computers in a lab how can I SSH into all of them or manage them in some other way?
[19:13] <erUSUL> millerd: into all of them at once ?
[19:13] <millerd> YEs
[19:13] <llutz> millerd: clusterssh
[19:13] <erkan^> i know
[19:13] <talcite> hey guys. I'm trying to resize an ocfs2 partition from 2.5tb to 6tb. Is there any tool I can use to modify a GPT partition table? parted doesn't seem to work because it complains about an unknown FS type.
[19:14] <ilovefairuz> !info clusterssh |  millerd
[19:14] <erUSUL> millerd: if you use key based autentification it should be easy to script the ssh acceses ...
[19:14] <millerd> Would it be hard to get on every single machine if I've already imaged them all?
[19:14] <erUSUL> millerd: but llutz found the right tool so ;)
[19:14] <zagabar> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Latest-ATI-Video-Driver-Has-Support-for-Ubuntu-10-04-149158.shtml  Does this mean that ATI mobility radeon x600 is supported again? Before I couldn't install the proprietary driver because there was none
[19:15] <travis____> Awesome video editor but seems to hang with the file format, however file says its mprg 4 encoded
[19:15] <travis____> mpg4
[19:16] <Mark89> Hi all. On this channel speak in Russian?
[19:16] <yuvilio> anyone bump into this error when installing 10.04 on a mirror raid: "the ext4 file system creation in partition #1 oof serial ATA RAID sil_aibhaiceebdi (mirror) failed" (guessing sil_aibhaiceebdi is just the name of the raid setup)
[19:16] <ilovefairuz> !ru | Mark89
[19:16] <Belserusk> Hi. With distros such as Ubuntu using Deb as its packet manager and distros such as Fedora using RPM; does anyone think that someday there will just be a single packet manager? Also do you reckon the many different packet managers is a good or bad thing.
[19:16] <Mark89> !ru
[19:16] <abhijit> !bot > Mark89
[19:17] <ilovefairuz> Mark89: write: /join #ubuntu-ru
[19:17] <andersom_cruz> boa tarde á todos
[19:17] <Mark89> thanks)
[19:17] <dima> sdf
[19:17] <mcrawfor> krb5-auth-dialog, btw is a good tool for graphically keeping your kerberos tickets up to date
[19:17] <ilovefairuz> Belserusk: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, but the answwer is no
[19:17] <StuckMojo> when you restart gdm, it kicks you off your x session...anyone know if that will happen when gdm is updated by apt?
[19:17] <andersom_cruz> algum de vcs já testou a nova versão do ubuntu a 10.04
[19:17] <andersom_cruz> ???
[19:17] <dima> кто нибудь самбу настраивал?
[19:18] <mcrawfor> StuckMojo: it won't restart X
[19:18] <abhijit> !en | dima andersom_cruz
[19:18] <ilovefairuz> dima: write: /join #ubuntu-ru
[19:18] <picard1421> hey
[19:18] <StuckMojo> mcrawfor: ok, taking your word for it...
[19:18] <andersom_cruz> hello everybody?
[19:18] <abhijit> !welcome | andersom_cruz
[19:18] <andersom_cruz> anything test the new version of ubuntu?
[19:19] <kerebrus> andersom_cruz which new version?
[19:19] <abhijit> means what?
[19:19] <philinux> andersom_cruz: you want the #ubuntu+1 forum I think
[19:19] <andersom_cruz> the 10.04
[19:19] <StuckMojo> mcrawfor: you were right, which is what i had expected also, but wasn't sure
[19:19] <abhijit> what about it?, andersom_cruz ?
[19:19] <philinux> andersom_cruz: It's been out since april
[19:19] <andersom_cruz> i thin what is a latest version,
[19:20] <ilovefairuz> andersom_cruz: yes it is
[19:20] <andersom_cruz> i don't speak english very well...
[19:20] <ilovefairuz> andersom_cruz: what's your native language?
[19:20] <philinux> andersom_cruz: what is it you need to know
[19:20] <andersom_cruz> portuguese
[19:20] <HeTaL> !ot
[19:20] <andersom_cruz> i'm from brasil
[19:20] <DeathSkull> Hello
[19:20] <abhijit> !br | andersom_cruz
[19:21] <Laggie> Hi, how do I check the status on my discs in my Raid1? I think one is broken since the red light on the chassie is lit and it beeps.
[19:21] <ilovefairuz> !portuguese| andersom_cruz
[19:21] <DeathSkull> I had a question
[19:21] <abhijit> DeathSkull, ask.
[19:21] <DeathSkull> If I get this http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
[19:21] <andersom_cruz> #ubuntu-br
[19:21] <DeathSkull> I can run it alongside my current WIndows install?
[19:22] <philinux> andersom_cruz: you need /join first
[19:22] <ilovefairuz> andersom_cruz: write: /join #ubuntu-br
[19:22] <abhijit> !wubi | DeathSkull
[19:22] <andersom_cruz> my first irc on the my life
[19:23] <andersom_cruz> i am lost
[19:23] <DeathSkull> mmkay, just wanted to make sure
[19:23] <abhijit> andersom_cruz, ilovefairuz and philinux just told you what you need to do.
[19:23] <DeathSkull> I've never used anything besies OS X and Windows, so I was curious :)
[19:24] <philinux> andersom_cruz: just type this in  /join #ubuntu-br
[19:24] <DeathSkull> lets see how this goes
[19:24] <DeathSkull> \o/
[19:24] <abhijit> DeathSkull, I ddnt answerd yes or no to your ..............ahhhhhhhhhh he left
[19:24] <philinux> DeathSkull I would burn the livecd and run it to test your hardware
[19:25] <philinux> Dang I got part and join turned off
[19:25] <ilovefairuz> philinux: make it use a time window (10 minutes or so)
[19:25] <ilovefairuz> cuts out most of the noise
[19:26] <philinux> I forgot that tab dont work if they left
[19:26] <stephensp> I have a question on Monitor Size - ubuntu is telling me I have 13" seiko when I have a 19" Dell. How to fix? Google search not helping. thanks,
[19:27] <abhijit> hi om26er
[19:27] <ilovefairuz> stephensp: you should probably file a bug (ask in #ubuntu-bugs) but you can set a custom resolution if you want
[19:28] <ilovefairuz> !resolution | stephensp
[19:28] <bidaboy> hi all, im searching for a hex editor, any one know a good one( that alow comparision) ?
[19:28] <om26er> hello abhijeet
[19:28] <nishttal2> what are the pros and cons of changing the block size on linux
[19:28] <nishttal2> block size of file
[19:28] <abhijit> !tab | om26er  :P ;)
[19:29] <Pici> abhijit: There is some else with that nick here...
[19:29] <abhijit> bidaboy, try searching in software center there is this hex editor.
[19:29] <abhijit> Pici, om26er ohhh sorry :(
[19:29] <abhijeet> hi om26er
[19:29] <abhijeet> om26er, do u know me
[19:29] <ilovefairuz> nishttal2: in what part?
[19:29] <abhijit> abhijeet, that was for me not for you
[19:29] <andersom_cruz> anybody speak portuguêse?
[19:29] <bidaboy> abhijit, i can use vim as hex editor?
[19:29] <Pici> !pt | andersom_cruz
[19:30] <abhijeet> abhijit, :)
[19:30]  * om26er hides
[19:30] <abhijit> bidaboy, dunno. i searched in USC and i got lots of result. 'Hex Editor' is just one of them. first result.
[19:30] <abhijeet> abhijeet, btw how are u doing
[19:30] <gade> andersom_cruz, type /join #ubuntu-br to got a brazilian forum
[19:30] <abhijit> abhijeet, fine. :)
[19:30] <bidaboy> abhijit, ok thanks
[19:31]  * abhijit goes searching for om26er 
[19:31] <ilovefairuz> bidaboy: i use ghex but has no diff features
[19:31] <ilovefairuz> don't think most hex editors do
[19:32] <kerebrus> exit
[19:32] <nurv> whats the easiest way to open a port??
[19:33] <ilovefairuz> nurv: through the firewall? sudo ufw allow from
[19:33] <ilovefairuz> and then use the IP
[19:33] <ilovefairuz> or allow to
[19:33] <ilovefairuz> and specify the port
[19:33] <nurv> and thats from the terminal?
[19:34] <ilovefairuz> nurv: there's a gui, gufw
[19:34] <Laggie> Hi, does anyone know how I can check the status on my discs in my Raid1?
[19:34] <Laggie> I think one is broken but I do not know
[19:35]  * ilovefairuz uses smartctl  
[19:35] <nurv> k ty, installing it now
[19:36] <mowe1> i installed ubuntu from sd card, which was mounted as /dev/sda -> i can only boot with sd card inserted
[19:37] <nurv> how do i access it after it downloads?
[19:37] <dakira> hi. I just upgraded a machine from 9.10 to 10.04 and have problems with GDM. The theme is a strange mixture of the old and the new theme. How can I change the GDM-theme to the new default theme?
[19:37] <ilovefairuz> mowe1: reinstall grub
[19:37] <ilovefairuz> !grub2 | mowe1
[19:38] <kerebrus> Is there a way to set what program opens a specific file extension?
[19:38] <mowe1> ilovefairuz: but how if i can only boot with sd card inserted? it always is mounted as sda
[19:38] <abhijit> kerebrus, yes. right click on them=>propeties=>open with
[19:38] <cylex>  /sbin/mdadm --detail /dev/md0
[19:38] <ilovefairuz> mowe1: and the hard disk is not mounted? pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[19:38] <kerebrus> abhijit I did and I told it to remember choice but it doesnt.
[19:39] <nurv> ilovefairuz: how do i access the program after it downloaded?
[19:39] <mowe1> ilovefairuz: it is mounted, as sdb
[19:39] <abhijit> kerebrus, dunno then
[19:39] <mowe1> it boots from sdb
[19:39] <cylex> Laggie: try http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/raid-lvm.php#overview
[19:39] <LINK97> ciao
[19:39] <ilovefairuz> kerebrus: right click > properties > open with tab
[19:39] <mowe1> ilovefairuz: but it is only sdb, if sd card is inserted
[19:39] <Toxicsg> What is the usual boot process for a machine with Floppy, CD, HD?
[19:39] <Sevith> I booted my computer changed a few things with conky logged out...logged in and then checked dmesg and this is what it says http://pastebin.com/VzFZufJN
[19:40] <ilovefairuz> mowe1: so install to sdb!
[19:40] <kerebrus> ilovefairuz i have, it doesnt save my choice
[19:40] <Sevith> Those are microsoft IPS
[19:40] <cylex> Toxicsg: it depends on the bios settings not linux
[19:40] <Sevith> Why would i eVEN TALK to microsh....
[19:40] <dima>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[19:40] <mowe1> ilovefairuz: it is installed on sdb, but it isn't configured to boot from sda! with no card insterted, it doesn't boot
[19:40] <Toxicsg> cylex I know it is of topic, it is the bios boot process I am talking about.
[19:40] <abhijit> dima, witought any space before '
[19:41] <abhijit> dima, witought any space before '/'
[19:41] <ilovefairuz> mowe1: are you on this machine now?
[19:41] <mowe1> ilovefairuz: i need to know how to change prefix and root to sda
[19:41] <Toxicsg> I am guessing Floppy - HD - CD
[19:41] <sdog> installation has been stalling for about 30 minutes on 30% and I don't see filesystem usage growing  what can be the issue ?
[19:41] <mowe1> ilovefairuz: sure, it boots with the card inserted
[19:41] <ilovefairuz> mowe1: do you have it booted now?
[19:41] <cylex> check ur bios settings :>
[19:41] <cylex> usually it boots to cd rom then hdd
[19:41] <Sevith> I booted my computer changed a few things with conky logged out...logged in and then checked dmesg and this is what it says http://pastebin.com/VzFZufJN
[19:41] <kerebrus> Toxicsg whatever you set it at?
[19:42] <kerebrus> I have mine to boot from hd1, hd2, cd
[19:42] <cylex> if u don't want to want mess with the setting and install  linux just use F12 and select cdrom to install from the boot cd
[19:42] <Toxicsg> OK thaks cylex and kerbus, thought if I set to boot fromm HD first boot time would decrease.
[19:42] <mowe1> ilovefairuz: i just need to know how to change the root and prefix thingy of the grub entries
[19:42] <ilovefairuz> mowe1: ok, please pastebin fdisk -l and 'mount'
[19:42] <abhijit> bye all. :)
[19:42] <Sevith> http://pastebin.com/VzFZufJN
[19:43] <Toxicsg> I know floppys rare these days.
[19:43] <Sevith> Its really upsetting knowing when i log into my computer that its talking to microsoft.
[19:43] <Sevith> ...
[19:43] <Sevith> Very upsetting
[19:43] <cylex> anyone know where I can get ubuntu shell for free
[19:43] <cylex> :>
[19:43] <Pici> Sevith: Excuse me?
[19:43] <tensorpudding> cylex: that's not on topic
[19:44] <cylex> k
[19:44] <Damn3d> cylence, on localhost
[19:44] <cylex> heh
[19:44] <cylence> Damn3d: hmm?
[19:44] <Sevith> Pici, Yeah. Look at this. I changed some settings in conky. Logged out and back in. Checked dmesg to make sure all was smooth and i get this http://pastebin.com/VzFZufJN
[19:44] <Damn3d> cylence uhm, wrong nick, sorry ;P
[19:44] <cylence> Damn3d: hehe, np
[19:44] <tensorpudding> there's tons of linux shells out there, and you probably won't be able to tell the difference between an ubuntu one and any other
[19:44] <Sevith> Pici, I dont know where they came from or why :(
[19:44] <ecolitan> how can i set sgid bit recursivly without the find command?
[19:45] <millerd> If I have multiple ubuntu machines pointed to a Windows Server 2003 DNS is there anyway I can see all the computers that are currently on and their ip addresses?
[19:45] <cylence> Damn3d: perhaps I'll apply your advice to what I was working on anyway and see if it works! ;)
[19:45] <ilovefairuz> Sevith: run wireshark
[19:45] <yae> 1
[19:45] <Pici> Sevith: Okay, so? Why do you this has something to do with microsoft?
[19:45] <Sevith> Pici, They are microsoft IPS?
[19:45] <yae> êàê ïðàâèëüíî íàñòðîèòü ðåïîçèòîðèé â óáóíòó?
[19:46] <Sevith> whois 207.46.125.31
[19:46] <xangua> yae: stop that please
[19:46] <ilovefairuz> millerd: nmap
[19:46] <Sevith> whois 65.54.189.73
[19:46] <yae> why&
[19:46] <tensorpudding> someone discovered the compose key?
[19:46] <ilovefairuz> yae: what's your native language?
[19:46] <yae> russian
[19:47] <ilovefairuz> !ru | yae
[19:47] <Sevith> ARIN?
[19:47] <cylex> Is there way to set a null password for root
[19:47] <cylex> I mean sudo user
[19:47] <millerd> How do you use nmap? And how do you reply in IRC?
[19:47] <Sevith> Does ubuntu communicate with ARIN on boot or anything?
[19:47] <sanjoy> how to install google setchup
[19:47] <ilovefairuz> !tab | millerd
[19:47] <yae> thanks!
[19:47] <Sevith> millerd, Go user NMAP tuts nmaps is complex..
[19:47] <Sevith> millerd, Use*
[19:48] <ilovefairuz> !pm | Laggie
[19:48] <sanjoy> :S
[19:49] <sanjoy> hoe to install GOOGLE setch  up
[19:49] <ilovefairuz> millerd: nmap -sP 10.0.0.* (or whatever your network sub is)
[19:49] <millerd> And do I do this from an ubuntu machine to the windows server to see all the computers pointed at it for DNS?
[19:50] <sanjoy> :S
[19:50] <cylex> sanjoy: No, there's no Linux version of sketchup and there doesn't look like there'll be one for a little bit.
[19:50] <sanjoy> :'(
[19:50] <ilovefairuz> millerd: ah, no, that will show you all the machines up on your network (well if they response to ping)
[19:51] <Laggie> I tried to use smartctl to check my discs but I get a message I do not know how to overcome - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/YdqHue5X
[19:51] <cylex> Is there a channel for ubuntu programming
[19:51] <Sevith> ilovefairuz, we could use -sX instead of -sP ;D lol..
[19:51] <Pici> Sevith: Do you use msn messenger?
[19:51] <tensorpudding> cylex: there's tons of channels for different languages on freenode
[19:51] <cylex> like learning to program linux
[19:51] <ilovefairuz> millerd: it's theoretically implausible to enumerate all machines using a certain DNS server (unless you mean DHCP) but you'd have to ask a windows channel for that
[19:52] <Sevith> Pici, i did BUT when i was messing with conky I had it shut down..Still even at the moment im dropping packets and i have no instance of amsn running just IRC and that is it..no firefox...just IRC
[19:52] <ni1s> cylex, you need to be more specific
[19:52] <saganbyte> Is it a regular problem that Facebook doesnt work easily with Gwibber?
[19:52] <ilovefairuz> cylex: depends on the language
[19:52] <tensorpudding> cylex: most of them don't really operate on the "tutorial for newbies level"
[19:53] <Sevith> Pici, Im going to reboot and see if its still happening or not...
[19:53] <Pici> Sevith: You may want to check the output of 'sudo netstat -tanp', to see if anything is trying to go outbound on ports 1863 and 3478
[19:53] <cylex> I prefer C or C++
[19:53] <Pici> cylex: Try ##C or #C++ then
[19:53] <cylex> ok
[19:53] <xangua> saganbyte: you could try the gwibber daily ppa to see if the latest version works better
[19:53] <kerebrus> Pici lol he logged out before your msg
[19:54] <Pici> kerebrus: oh well.
[19:54] <ilovefairuz> cylex: if by ubuntu programming you mean unix/linux specific stuff, then google "linux programming"
[19:54] <saganbyte> xangua, thanks, i ll try that
[19:55] <cylex> ok, thx, ilovefairuz
[19:55] <ilovefairuz> Laggie: add sudo
[19:56] <xae8koo> Hello
[19:56] <Hellmark[S10e]> Hey, i've got a couple servers running the ubuntu server edition, and I have a problem where tftp-hpa is not logging anything.
[19:56] <Hellmark[S10e]> any idea?
[19:57] <yae> Where are  russian ubuntu channel?
[19:57] <erUSUL> !ru
[19:57] <kkirk> i've upgraded a box from 8.x to 10.x, since the upgrade i faced a problem with suexec, but i think the reason for it's problem is the same as why su stopped working (root pw is set)
[19:57] <xae8koo> I am trying to log on to a cabeled network using  EAP (PEAP) and MSCHAPv2, but it won't let me connect. It tries for a while then disconnects, what can be the cause?
[19:57] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[19:58] <ilovefairuz> yae: write: .join #ubuntu-ru
[19:58] <ilovefairuz>   /join
[19:58] <squircle|iphone> !hi | ShapeShifter499
[19:58] <ShapeShifter499> seems I cannot get my ethernet port workin, how good is using wifi for a laptop server
[19:59] <lalon> hey im back
[19:59] <lalon> to ur heart
[19:59] <ecolitan> how can i set sgid bit recursivly without the find command?
[19:59] <squircle|iphone> ShapeShifter499: Not preferable for a server, but if its the only method of connectivity, it'll have to do.
[20:00] <ilovefairuz> ShapeShifter499: depends on proximity, driver stability, authentication type, ..
[20:00] <kerebrus> ShapeShifter499 I wouldnt recommend it, if your expecting decent trafic to the box
[20:00] <ShapeShifter499> the server will be RIGHT next to the wifi box
[20:00] <cylex> good bye
[20:00] <xae8koo> ShapeShifter499: A networkcard is cheap...
[20:01] <ShapeShifter499> I plan to make this laptop a media, irc, and print server
[20:01] <squircle|iphone> ShapeShifter499: Even so, its not preferable
[20:01] <ShapeShifter499> for now
[20:01] <Laggie> I've added sudo but I am stuck again, i've tried with 0 - 6 but no luck http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/dxyvpJJF
[20:01] <kerebrus> ShapeShifter499 Why cant you get the ethernet port working?
[20:02] <ShapeShifter499> xae8koo: someone told me it would be 60 for a pcimia(?) ethernet card
[20:02] <dakira> hi. I just upgraded a machine from 9.10 to 10.04 and have problems with GDM. The theme is a strange mixture of the old and the new theme. How can I change the GDM-theme to the new default theme?
[20:02] <ke1ha> ShapeShifter499, severs need two main things to work well, Network Bandwidth and RAM, depending of course on i's intended purpose. WiFI is certainly not the preferred choice for Network I/O on servers.
[20:02] <erUSUL> ecolitan: use globs ? ( but why not use find ? )
[20:02] <ShapeShifter499> xae8koo: 60 bucks
[20:02] <ecolitan> fin command not avaliable
[20:02] <ShapeShifter499> kerebrus: my computer is a dell inspiron 2500
[20:03] <frajollah> opa
[20:03] <erUSUL> ecolitan: all ubuntu install have find
[20:03] <frajollah> tem algum brasuka ai
[20:03] <lalon> so
[20:03] <ShapeShifter499> kerebrus: for some reason, my comp doesn't "see" the port
[20:03] <ilovefairuz> Laggie: pastebin lshw
[20:03] <erUSUL> !br | frajollah
[20:03] <lalon> can u guys make shell from ubuntu ?
[20:03] <frajollah> nao entendi
[20:03] <ShapeShifter499> maybe I'm doing something wong
[20:03] <ShapeShifter499> *wrong
[20:03] <kkirk> somebody knows why on unbuntu10 a setuid-root binary get back EPERM on a setgid32(...) call
[20:03] <rww> lalon: hmm?
[20:04] <lalon> rww,  shell
[20:04] <ilovefairuz> frajollah: what's your native language ?
[20:04] <erUSUL> lalon: ?? what is "make shell from"
[20:04] <ShapeShifter499> I'm currently reinstalling ubuntu
[20:04] <lalon> my frnds told me that they make shell i mean irc channel from linux
[20:04] <erUSUL> kkirk: apparmor ?
[20:05] <ilovefairuz> lalon: a shell and irc channel (more like a server) are completely different things
[20:05] <ShapeShifter499> anyone know how to tell the alt ubuntu install cd to use/install a certain driver?
[20:05] <Hellmark[S10e]> anyone familiar with tftp-hpa?
[20:05] <frajollah> opa
[20:05] <frajollah> agora sim
[20:05] <lalon> ilovefairuz,  ohh
[20:05] <frajollah> kkkkkkkk
[20:05] <ilovefairuz> ShapeShifter499: i think there's an option like "use additional components"
[20:05] <frajollah> sou noob ainda
[20:05] <kkirk> erUSUL: it's installed, thanks for the tip - i check it's config ;)
[20:05] <frajollah> primeira vez
[20:06] <rww> ubottu: en | frajollah
[20:06] <ke1ha> ShapeShifter499, on a couple of HP servers In built, I had to build them without NIC support first, then ndiswrapper / modprobe the drivers afterwards.
[20:06] <ilovefairuz> frajollah: write: /join #ubuntu-br
[20:06] <Pici> !br | frajollah
[20:07] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: well once installed the needed driver is all ready there, I just can't get the computer to use it
[20:08] <STILLSTORM> hi guys
[20:08] <ke1ha> I also do the same for a set of cheap LinkSys WiFI cards on workstations. ALl you need is the SYS & INI files for the 32 or 64 bit drivers, for that particular NIC.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> ke1ha: is there no native driver?
[20:09] <ilovefairuz> !hi | STILLSTORM
[20:09] <ke1ha> When you lspci the box, does it show the cards listed?
[20:09] <Laggie> When I use lshw I get a long list but I can only see the last part, I cannot scroll to the beginning (using putty), how can I access the beginning?
[20:09] <STILLSTORM> i'm just here for speak
[20:09] <STILLSTORM> not technical support
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Laggie: sudo lshw | less
[20:09] <erUSUL> Laggie: use a pager. « lshw | less »
[20:09] <erUSUL>  kids this days
[20:09] <kkirk> erUSUL: apparmor disabled - and the problem persists
[20:10] <erUSUL> kkirk: then i dunno. strace the command? maybe it drops privileges to soon ?
[20:10] <dcr226> Pici, ping
[20:10] <ke1ha> ShapeShifter499, one thing I do, before install, is "disable" all network cards, internal nics as well as internal wifi so it wont laod a similar, but non functional driver by mistake.
[20:11] <kkirk> erUSUL: i've done strace - the program fails because it gets back EPERM on setgid32
[20:11] <ke1ha> So at install, its nothing but the required server apps, then I manuall add NIC support with ndis / modprobe
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> ke1ha: I buy wifi which works out of the box. No issues then :)
[20:11] <kkirk> erUSUL: the suid executable is the apache suexec wrapper
[20:12] <ke1ha> ActionParsnip, good plan, but not always possible when ya pick up deal on the cheap.
[20:12] <LinuxFetus> ActionParsnip, are you there?
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> ke1ha: true but I only buy what I know works, rather than cheap
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: nar :)
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: make it quick
[20:13] <erUSUL> kkirk: well i'm not really aprogramer so my knowledge is ending here ...
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Off the bus soon, sup
[20:13] <LinuxFetus> ActionParsnip, hey here's what my startup/shutdown screens look like, now.  http://pastebin.com/JBwi87Zu
[20:13] <kow> ActionParsnip, unless the reviews on newegg says it works perfectly fine in ubuntu out of the box, then you get it and it doesnt work
[20:13] <ke1ha> ActionParsnip, fer sure.If I were build from scratch, it would all be certified stuff.
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Kow: check the hcl
[20:13] <ke1ha> And certainly would "not@ be WIFI :-)
[20:14] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: what if I can't find a windows driver for my dell?
[20:14] <millerd> If I"m looking for ubuntu computers on nmap
[20:14] <millerd> what setting do I use?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> kow: or buy from retails who sell linux so you can ask :)
[20:14] <kow> ActionParsnip, yeah, but i was just thinking, hey 10$ for an asus wifi card, YES!
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFetus: I'll have to check later dude, maybe someone else can help
[20:14] <picard1421> im getting an error cmake:372 (messsage) could not find X11??
[20:15] <LinuxFetus> Alright, I understand.
[20:15] <kow> and people says it works in reviews
[20:15] <picard1421> is that a problem with my enviornment or code?>??
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Kow: yeah then a good few hours making it fly. No deal
[20:15] <LinuxFetus> So, can anyone help me with this?? Here's what my Ubuntu startup/shutdown screens look like.  It used to look normal: http://pastebin.com/JBwi87Zu
[20:15] <ke1ha> ShapeShifter499, They are there, you just have to dig fer them. Especially with Dell, as its their own Chipset Drivers. Dell is a tougher one, as you can't go to the chipset mfg to get them.
[20:15] <kow> it works now though, that was in like 9.04 i think
[20:15] <kow> it works now in 10.04
[20:15] <ilovefairuz> millerd: -O will try to detect operating systems
[20:15] <millerd> How do I get nmap to list what it found?
[20:16] <ke1ha> ShapeShifter499, what's the NIC model, yousaid Insp. 2500 Laptop ?
[20:16] <Laggie> Here is the list http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/wSTCdygb
[20:16] <frag4now> how can I see available package versions?
[20:16] <erUSUL> !version
[20:16] <bastidrazor> millerd: have you read the manpage for nmap? man nmap
[20:16] <frag4now> erUSUL: no, package not distro
[20:16] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: ya
[20:16] <ilovefairuz> millerd: use the same command as before but add -O with -sP
[20:16] <xae8koo> Oo
[20:16] <erUSUL> frag4now: you read the factoid to the end ?
[20:16] <xae8koo> I have Ubuntu 10.04
[20:17] <xae8koo> Thougth I had 10.9
[20:17] <ke1ha> need the NIC model to help you dig fer the driver
[20:17] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: not sure what the NIC is inside
[20:17] <kow> xae8koo, there is no 10.9
[20:17] <frag4now> erUSUL: you're right, sorry. anyway i already did that command
[20:17] <frag4now> but i can get only installed package info
[20:17] <ke1ha> Live-CDbot it and lspci the box, should tell us what it is.
[20:17] <kow> its 10.04 and there is an alpha of 10.10
[20:17] <ke1ha> oops boot .. ..
[20:18] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: I have the alt ubuntu disk only
[20:18] <frag4now> erUSUL: http://dpaste.com/223252/
[20:18] <Pici> dcr226: Yes?
[20:18] <ke1ha> There's also a Dell Service Number you can use to track down the build as well, assuming it's not been modified.
[20:18] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: I can use that command from the shell I dropped to right?
[20:18] <erUSUL> frag4now: Installato: 1.2.14-4ubuntu1.1
[20:18] <erUSUL> frag4now: so version 1.2.14-4
[20:18] <frag4now> yes, but i don't need to know what i already have
[20:19] <frag4now> i need to know what i can install, downloading it
[20:19] <frag4now> and then install it
[20:19] <jiffe> anyone running filesystem level quotas and having problems with it staying in sync?
[20:19] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: brb I'll try the command (is currently on another comp)
[20:19] <picard1421> where can i find libx11.so its not in my usr/bin/x11 folder???
[20:19] <erUSUL> frag4now: see tabella versione: that's what is aviable to you
[20:19] <erUSUL> !find libx11
[20:19] <picard1421> wehn i tried to complie it says im missing this file.. why is it not installed. with my KDE enviornment?? is htere a place i have to intsall this?
[20:20] <ke1ha> Yes, if you have the server installed already, just lspci from the command line
[20:20] <picard1421> it says its installed
[20:20] <frag4now> erUSUL: sorry i can't understand you. Have I to follow the link in "tabella versione"?
[20:20] <picard1421> but its not showing up in the usr/bin/x11 directory??
[20:20] <Pici> picard1421: I don't that exact filename in any package in the Ubuntu repository.
[20:20] <webPragmatist> can conf.d files for php.ini override whats in php.ini ?
[20:20] <webPragmatist> they don't seem to
[20:20] <LorgonJortle> Howdy!
[20:20] <ilovefairuz> picard1421: you need to install the -devel package
[20:21] <picard1421> ahh
[20:21] <LorgonJortle> I've a file that I accidentally named '.ps' with nothing before the dot. I've tried 'sudo rename .ps Something.ps' but it gives me an error.
[20:21] <dcr226> Pici, I've a patch for Supytube, to read url's containing #! , I didn't know if you wanted it
[20:21] <ilovefairuz> webPragmatist: yes it can, it's included at the bottom
[20:22] <picard1421> look at 0:38
[20:22] <picard1421> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOZ8ifKjCIw
[20:22] <erUSUL> LorgonJortle: mv -- \.ps newname
[20:22] <picard1421> it has it looking for libx11.so in usr/lib/X11 and there is no file there??? and that is the error im reciving on compile?
[20:22] <Pici> dcr226: Cool, pm me a link.
[20:22] <ke1ha> ShapeShifter499, just do a: lspci | grep Networ
[20:23] <dewman> I have a nvidia driver question, I have a older pci nvidia card 5700le and I think I made a mistake of installing the "latest" drivers, from what I can find, I think that I should be using 176.14.25. If thats the case do I just want to purge all the nvidia drivers and then re-install with the correct version?
[20:23] <ke1ha> lspci | grep Network  ... wiht a "K" :-)
[20:23] <webPragmatist> ilovefairuz: what includes it apache?
[20:23] <cameldrv> Hi, I'm a bit of a newbie to ubuntu, and I'm trying to install a newer version of exim than comes with 10.04.  I see the new version on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/amd64/exim4/4.71-3ubuntu1 but I'm not sure how to install it with apt.
[20:23] <webPragmatist> ilovefairuz: just curious if they have to be .ini inside of conf.d
[20:24] <erUSUL> !info exim4
[20:24] <picard1421> found it lol nm...
[20:24] <dr3mro> hello please I want to participate to ubuntu ... where do I start.. I want to be a developer with python please any one guide me the way thnx
[20:24] <picard1421> itw as hte dev package.. now im getting an error needs iCE?
[20:25] <picard1421> ICE
[20:25] <Pici> picard1421: What are you trying to compile?
[20:25] <picard1421> PAM
[20:25] <webPragmatist> ilovefairuz: ah they do
[20:25] <Pici> picard1421: pam is in the ubuntu repositories.
[20:25] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: that comnmand shows nothing, btw I'm using the shell you can access on the alt ubuntu disk
[20:25] <PoPoTheGiant> hi
[20:25] <picard1421> apt-get install pam?
[20:25] <erUSUL> cameldrv: lucid comes with that exim version.... are you ina previous ubuntu release ?
[20:25] <[J|F]> So I'm trying to install the updates from Synaptic after a clean install of Ubuntu 10.04  After downloading all the packages, a window pops up called "Debconf on <hostname>" about "Configuring Kerberos Authentication" and asking for my Default Kerberos Version 5 realm.  What is this?
[20:25] <picard1421> i tried sudo apt-get install pam did not work??
[20:26] <ke1ha> Ok, I guess you dont hace grep at that point, just lspci then
[20:26] <Pici> picard1421: Because thats only the name of the source package, it creates the following packages: libpam0g, libpam-modules, libpam-runtime, libpam0g-dev, libpam-cracklib, libpam-doc
[20:26] <erUSUL> picard1421: is a library --> libpam
[20:26] <picard1421> whats the apt-get command for pam? and the login package too?
[20:26]  * kow is back (gone 00:00:09)
[20:26] <cameldrv> erusul: I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, which is Lucid to my understanding
[20:26] <ilovefairuz> webPragmatist: php.ini has a directive to include it
[20:26] <picard1421> apt-get install libpam
[20:27] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: it shows a 56k modem in using just lspci
[20:27] <erUSUL> cameldrv: correct. then just doing « sudo aptitude install exim4 » will install that package
[20:27] <picard1421> does that contain all the dependenceis in the library needed to install
[20:27] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: its not showing any network card
[20:27] <cameldrv> erusul: but I have exim4 4.69, and apt-get says there is no newer version
[20:27] <erUSUL> |software | cameldrv
[20:27] <ke1ha> No Network card listed at all ?
[20:27] <Pici> picard1421: This should be already installed.
[20:27] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: *ethernet card
[20:27] <picard1421> pam???
[20:27] <Pici> picard1421: yes.
[20:27] <picard1421> is it under programs??
[20:27] <Pici> picard1421: Its not a program, its a library.
[20:27] <ShapeShifter499> ke1ha: no ethernet
[20:27] <ke1ha> ShapeShifter499, lets goto PM
[20:27] <Pici> picard1421: What do you expect 'pam' to do?
[20:28] <erUSUL> cameldrv: you are sure you are in lucid ? what does « lsb-release -a » says ?
[20:28] <picard1421> the face authentication software
[20:28] <webPragmatist> ilovefairuz: right for some reason i didn't think they had to have .ini at the end (similar to httpd's conf.d)
[20:28] <picard1421> whats the package for IceConnectionNumber iCE?
[20:28] <picard1421> i tried apt-get ice that was not it?
[20:28] <ilovefairuz> webPragmatist: i don't think they need to, it just includes all files
[20:29] <Pici> picard1421: I think we are talking about different packages, pam is Pluggable Authentication Modules.
[20:29] <dewman> I have a nvidia driver question, I have a older pci nvidia card 5700le and I think I made a mistake of installing the "latest" drivers, from what I can find, I think that I should be using 176.14.25. If thats the case do I just want to purge all the nvidia drivers and then re-install with the correct version?
[20:29] <webPragmatist> ilovefairuz: afaict it doesn't work without .ini
[20:29] <cameldrv> I don't have a command "lsb-release", but /etc/lsb-release says "DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04 LTS""
[20:29]  * erUSUL temped to coing « cargo cult apt-ing »
[20:29] <[J|F]> Why is Synaptic asking for my Default Kerberos version 5 realm?  It asks this after trying to install updates after a fresh install.  What do I enter there?
[20:29] <picard1421> pici: like face authrization
[20:29]  * erUSUL temped to coin the term « cargo cult apt-ing »
[20:29] <ilovefairuz> webPragmatist: man, read the file and you'll find the include directive
[20:29] <acalbaza> curious... have updated ubuntu fonts been released?
[20:29] <slinker1> erUSUL: hehe
[20:30] <cameldrv> erusul: this is the linode installation of ubuntu so it's possible that they've made changes to it.  I'm thinking perhaps my apt sources are wrong somehow
[20:30] <erUSUL> cameldrv: could be. better ask them ?
[20:30] <millerd> I'm trying to use nmap -sT 0.0.0.* (where there 0s are my ip range) but can't get it to output the active ips that it has found? I know there are multiple windows and ubuntu machines in this range? Why isn't it reporting anything?
[20:31] <cameldrv> erusul: my first source is: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted, which seems like it is right to me
[20:31] <PolK> Hi guys
[20:31] <dipu> hi
[20:32] <cameldrv> erusul: if I manually specify a version number on the apt-get line though, it can't find the package
[20:32] <picard1421> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOZ8ifKjCIw
[20:32] <ilovefairuz> millerd: ommit -sT and just sudo nmap sub
[20:32] <Guest43571> i'm running latest ubuntu under vmware fusion. i'd like to make my screen DPI/PPI match that of the host osx environment, how can I set it? (I know the value is 117)
[20:32] <picard1421> at 0:43 see it says looking for ICEConnectionNUmber in ICE ... i dont hae tghe package.. where is it / what is it?
[20:32] <erUSUL> cameldrv: well my system policy reports --> Candidate: 4.71-3ubuntu1 500 http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages
[20:32] <webPragmatist> ilovefairuz: what "directive" i searched for include and found nothing
[20:33] <cameldrv> erusul:  As I said, I'm a bit of a newbie -- I'm not sure what that means.  How can I get my system policy?
[20:33] <dipu> bye
[20:33] <erUSUL> cameldrv: apt-cache policy packagename
[20:33] <joesin> millard: works for me...
[20:33] <erUSUL> cameldrv: apt-cache policy exim4
[20:34] <ilovefairuz> webPragmatist: search "conf"
[20:34] <joesin> type the nmap then whatever change you want to it then > output.txt
[20:34] <picard1421> or sorry it says qt qmake not found.. is there something i have to install for qmake?
[20:34] <webPragmatist> ilovefairuz: did that friend… this is the end of my php.ini http://cl.ly/e709643f123023b1f00a
[20:34] <webPragmatist> nothing
[20:34] <combinephotos> how do i combine several jpg images into one jpg image in Ubuntu 10.04?
[20:35] <ratcheer> combinephotos: I would use the GIMP
[20:35] <webPragmatist> http://cl.ly/57dc60b4f867a794bf19 rather
[20:35] <ilovefairuz> webPragmatist: pastebin the whole thing
[20:35] <webPragmatist> ilovefairuz: i think it's compiled
[20:35] <combinephotos> ratcheer: is there an easy program or command in gimp that will do this?
[20:35] <webPragmatist> to look in conf.d
[20:35] <ilovefairuz> webPragmatist: umm no i don't think so
[20:36] <brummbaer> combinephotos: if you need it in CLI form for scripting, imagemagick is probably worth looking into
[20:36] <ratcheer> combinephotos: I'm not really sure, I have never done it before.
[20:36] <webPragmatist> well… the phrase "conf" is not in /var/php5/apache2/php.ini
[20:36] <Laggie> I cannot find one of my discs in my lshw list, it is located on a 3ware controller, does it mean that the disc is broken? (it worked before of course) I cannot do smartctl controls on it either since I cannot find it. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/wSTCdygb
[20:37] <webPragmatist> rather /etc
[20:37] <combinephotos> brummbaer: ok, i'll try imagemagick; it seems there is no easy way to do it in any program available to ubuntu/linux, only windows?
[20:38] <brummbaer> combinephotos: based on your description of your task, i don't know of any automated way to join photos in windows either
[20:38] <picard1421> whats the command to install all qt4 dependencies
[20:38] <combinephotos> brummbaer: i must have already tried imagemagick as its already installed
[20:38] <erUSUL> Laggie: check boot messages « dmesg | less »
[20:39] <midar> apt-get build-dep
[20:39] <krash812> rm -fr /
[20:39] <krash812> got solution ?
[20:39] <erUSUL> combinephotos: how do you want to "combine" them ?
[20:39] <IdleOne> !danger
[20:39] <KaiForce> if you create a share through the GUI, but need to delete from the command line, how do you do that?
[20:39] <combinephotos> erUSUL: doesn't matter the format, just as long as they don't overlap, into one image file
[20:39] <erUSUL> krash812: that does not work in ubuntu. read the man page of rm.
[20:40] <brummbaer> combinephotos: two seconds in google tells me that the -adjoin falg w/ imagemagick is what you're looking for
[20:40] <IdleOne> krash812: do NOT post that command again
[20:40] <brummbaer> *flag
[20:40] <cameldrv> erusul: Thanks, it seems I have 4.71 after all
[20:40] <erUSUL> cameldrv: no problem
[20:40] <combinephotos> brummbaer: glad you knew google, i'll try that
[20:40] <krash812> i m sorry .. i do that in a centos server .. and know im cryng ...
[20:41] <picard1421> whats openCV im getting now an error "openCV required but some headers or libs not found"
[20:41] <picard1421> !opencv
[20:41] <brummbaer> hey combinephotos: looks like a great resource here: http://www.fmwconcepts.com/imagemagick/adjoin/index.php
[20:41] <kerebrus> erusul what does that comman do?
[20:42]  * erUSUL hands krash812 a paper towel
[20:42] <picard1421> im compiling in c++ and im getting that error
[20:42] <ratcheer> kerebrus: If it did work, it would delete everything.
[20:42] <picard1421> is that a package i need to install?
[20:42] <kerebrus> ratcheer rofl interesting
[20:42] <Laggie> I am not really sure what to look for in the boot list, errors?
[20:43] <erUSUL> kerebrus: which one? the one krash812 typed here? in ubuntu (or any modern distro) it will error out. in other linux or unix systems and with root privs it will delete everything in your system
[20:43] <barfster> I have now a friend over with a Windows machine, how can I make an ubuntu desktop memory stick? Is there one ready to download? Or can I just run that GUI app on a regular image?
[20:43] <kerebrus> erUSUL ah okay
[20:44] <combinephotos> brummbaer: when i use convert *.jpg --adjoin output.jpg, it outputs several images and does not combine them into one image
[20:44] <krash812> i have deleted all the / with a command that i cannot post .. is there a solution for it ?
[20:44] <x29a> heya. im having problems with my mysql server on a 10.04 install. ive seen that many people seem to have this problem (start loop or something) but i dont get it fixed. any hints/help/links?
[20:44] <bastidrazor> barfster: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[20:44] <dfrank> dear All. I've installed ubuntu 10.4, gnome works fine, but at text console there's garbage instead of text. should i change GRUB config? where can i find it?
[20:45] <ilovefairuz> webPragmatist: aaaah could be: has a ./configure option: --with-config-file-scan-dir
[20:45] <ilovefairuz> krash812: no solution, reinstall server and restore any backups
[20:45] <freak2> hello. i am trying to record a video from my vcr using xawtv. i can get the picture to work, but not the sound. when i use the record option xawtv just creats 9 files with the given filename and outputs 'oops not able to create more filenames' all files are some size like 338784. any one any ideas?
[20:45] <trism> combinephotos: the linux version of picasa has a collage button that may do what you want (closed source though)
[20:46] <x29a> freak2: harddrive full?
[20:46] <webPragmatist> ilovefairuz: well… moral of the story… end it with .ini :)
[20:46] <ahappydeath> how can i get the java to work in firefox?
[20:46] <freak2> @x29a no 40 gig space left
[20:46] <barfster> bastidrazor: Thanks
[20:46] <combinephotos> trism: i'd rather use opensource, i am close to getting it to work, i just need more help from brummbaer
[20:46] <barfster> Is there a way to use debootstrap to install an installer?
[20:46] <bastidrazor> barfster: you're welcome
[20:46] <erUSUL> combinephotos: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/montage.php
[20:47] <barfster> Is there a way to use debootstrap to install an installer? Opposed to a complete system, i e
[20:47] <ilovefairuz> ahappydeath: do you have java installed?
[20:47] <moayad> vox
[20:47] <ahappydeath> yes
[20:47] <erUSUL> combinephotos: i did try « montage *.jpeg my_collage.jpeg » in a dir full of pictures and it worked as spected
[20:47] <picard1421> ok any help .. i think this should be what you guys need ? http://pastebin.com/60WHAUPp
[20:47] <freak2> i ami am also not sure if xawtv is still state of the art. it was the only tv program i found besides tvtime that seems not to have a recording option
[20:47] <ritztech> in scp when transfering is their automatically a way to put like user:password without prompting ya
[20:48] <erUSUL> ahappydeath: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:48] <ilovefairuz> ahappydeath: open new tab and type 'about:plugins' in firefox, do you see java?
[20:48] <manday> ffs Xorg is driving me crazy! It constantly hangs up and malfunctions!! Is this an ubuntu feature?
[20:48] <combinephotos> erUSUL: ok i'll try that
[20:48] <voth> Can anyone rec. a thumbnail generator like the one MPC generators?
[20:48] <ilovefairuz> ritztech: use key-based authentication
[20:48] <ahappydeath> ilovefairuz, no
[20:49] <manday> Is there a way to make Alt + F1 ALWAYS work? Just seconds ago Xorg hung up again (but I could still move the mouse pointer) but there was no way getting to the TTY because Alt + F1 relies on X11
[20:49] <ilovefairuz> ahappydeath: then use the command you were given
[20:49] <ritztech> hmmmm keybased auth ?
[20:49] <manday> is there a way to make the kernel switch to TTY1 upon Alt + F1 ?
[20:49] <ilovefairuz> ritztech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[20:49] <erUSUL> manday: is crtl + alñt + f1 if you are in X
[20:49] <erUSUL> manday: is crtl + alt + f1 if you are in X
[20:49] <ritztech> is that same with radius access
[20:49] <manday> erUSUL: but this depends on X itsself, doesnt it!
[20:49] <manday> or was that alt + F1 only..
[20:49] <erUSUL> manday: to some estent yes
[20:49] <manday> no i think both, no?
[20:50] <barfster> What are the different sources for debootstrap?
[20:50] <manday> erUSUL: iirc you can even disable that in xorg.conf
[20:50] <manday> erUSUL: it will not work then if X hangs up (as it was the case for me)
[20:50] <manday> hence my question:
[20:50] <ilovefairuz> ritztech: no it's no the same
[20:50] <blitzo> i am having no end of problems with cairo-dock.  i have been using their forum to report them but now they have turned on an anti-spam filter that stops ALL posts.  how can i get an email address?  no one is paying attention to their irc channel
[20:50] <erUSUL> manday: you used an incorrect key combo.
[20:51] <ilovefairuz> manday: you need magic sysreq keys
[20:51] <manday> erUSUL: you sure? Well, ILl try next time but I was pretty sure I pressed Ctrl Alt F1
[20:51] <ritztech> hmm have 100 users trying to gain access and instead of everyone also SSHing to a deving then WINSCP to it and then pulling it im trying to automate it via TCL / bash
[20:51] <combinephotos> erUSUL: thank you, that worked, btw, is there a way to stop montage from shrinking the images in the collage?
[20:51] <manday> ilovefairuz those only work while booting or single user, no?!
[20:51] <ilovefairuz> manday: nope
[20:51] <picard1421> im using everyting non GUI except for my login screen. I do not want to install a FULL KDM enviornemnt just to log in... my question is... is there a REALLY lightweight login program that is very customizeable.. Just to log in and you can then customize the background picture etc...???
[20:52] <erUSUL> manday: i only know what you told me « 21:48 < manday> Is there a way to make Alt + F1 ALWAYS work? ...» you only mention alt there
[20:52] <manday> ilovefairuz: what was it again ctrl+alt+scroll lock + Key?
[20:52] <bastidrazor> blitzo: patience.. many of those in #cairo-dock are french and have a difference schedule.
[20:52] <KaiForce> anyone know where ubuntu (Lucid) stores the share config for SMB shares created through the GUI?  I turned off my GUI and need to remove a share....
[20:52] <manday> erUSUL: I m not 100% sure what I pressed
[20:52] <ilovefairuz> manday: it's the print screen button
[20:52] <combinephotos> picard1421: openbox maybe?
[20:52] <picard1421> is that just a login screen?
[20:53] <combinephotos> picard1421: no entire lightweight desktop environment
[20:53] <erUSUL> manday: then why you assume is a bug or maltfunction ? it could be you pressing the wrong keys for all we know
[20:53] <ilovefairuz> manday: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Magic_commands this is the key list
[20:54] <picard1421> im looking literally for someting literally not even a GUI./.. Static Picture... with login screen.. if accepted flash another picture for 5 seconds take to root consol... if not accetped flash another picture to login screen?
[20:54] <manday> ilovefairuz: yes thanks. but iirc the kernel even displays the possible keystrokes
[20:54] <manday> erUSUL: could be, will make sure next time
[20:54] <combinephotos> erUSUL: thank you, that worked, btw, is there a way to stop montage from shrinking the images in the collage?
[20:54] <picard1421> nyone figure this out yet??
[20:54] <manday> (if that ever happens, but judging from how stable xorg has proved to be for me it wont take long)
[20:54] <voth> Can anyone rec. a linux variant of VirtualDub that cut a variety of video formats (MKV not required)?
[20:54] <picard1421> http://pastebin.com/60WHAUPp
[20:54] <ilovefairuz> manday: you need to enable it in sysctl.conf
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> manday: for it to be permanently enabled
[20:55] <jasonwryan> picard1421: you could look at entrance for your display manager...
[20:55] <picard1421> is that a program "entrance"
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> manday: because well if X hangs, you won't be able to enable them before you can use them
[20:56] <jasonwryan> picard1421: yes http://xcomputerman.com/pages/entrance.html
[20:56] <shiv> where is aptoncd. I canot find the files on its website. Whtas wrong?
[20:56] <picard1421> what does it do??
[20:56] <combinephotos> erUSUL: is there a way to stop montage from shrinking the images in the collage?
[20:56] <ilovefairuz> shiv: it's a package
[20:56] <bastidrazor> !info aptoncd | shiv
[20:56] <shiv> ilovefairuz, I know but I am trying to install and I cannot find the deb or the package
[20:56] <manday> ilovefairuz: works fine for me without editing anything
[20:57] <ilovefairuz> shiv: sudo apt-get install aptoncd
[20:57] <shiv> ilovefairuz, let me see
[20:57] <ilovefairuz> manday: hm alright then
[20:57] <manday> ilovefairuz: i wonder tho when i press it within X (say sysreq h for help) nothing happens - on the TTYs neither
[20:57] <ahappydeath> thanks everyone
[20:57] <shiv> ilovefairuz, that worked. Sorry about this. I was trying to download directly form the website
[20:58] <barfster> I am on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Without%20CD is there a way to change step 4 under debootstrap method? Step 4. Create the new install.
[20:58] <barfster> sudo debootstrap lucid /mnt/installer
[20:58] <barfster> sudo debootstrap >>> What are my choices here? <<< /mnt/installer
[20:58] <ilovefairuz> manday: alt + sysreq + key
[20:58] <barfster> Is there a MiniCDinstaller option?
[20:58] <manday> ilovefairuz: i know
[20:58] <manday> thats what i meant
[20:59] <manday> yet...
[20:59] <ilovefairuz> manday: cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
[20:59] <ilovefairuz> if 0, echo 1 to it
[20:59] <asda> hi everybody today i bought a PC (amd phenom 2 X6 1055T, 4GB RAM ) have to insall 64bit ? , i want to install ubuntu what is the first step for usb install option
[20:59] <combinephotos> anyone know if there is a way to stop montage from shrinking the images in the collage?
[21:00] <manday> ilovefairuz: 1
[21:00] <ilovefairuz> !install | barfster
[21:00] <manday> ilovefairuz: so what?
[21:00] <jenda> Is there a way to restore text entered into a text box in a Firefox tab? It was an email message sent through a website interface (proz.com) and I didn't make a copy. I re-opened the closed tab, but the text itself didn't reappear. I vaguely recall trying something similar earlier and I believe I found the solution in the end - I just don't rememember how. Any ideas?
[21:01] <red> screwed you are, my padawan
[21:01] <ilovefairuz> manday: are you pressing in sequence or simultaneously ?
[21:01] <barfster> ilovefairuz: My question is what are the options for debootstrap, are there any alternatives to lucid?
[21:01] <manday> ilovefairuz: simultaneously. ilovefairuz it works fine if within a TTY
[21:01] <barfster> In this command that is: sudo debootstrap lucid /mnt/installer
[21:01] <manday> just saying that in X x appears to take everything over
[21:01] <manday> selfish thing of... argh.
[21:02] <blitzo> does anyone have an email address for cairo-dock
[21:03] <ilovefairuz> manday: i don't expect 'h' to work inside X
[21:03] <bastidrazor> blitzo: glx-dock.org
[21:03] <manday> ilovefairuz: where would the output from the kernel go then tho?!
[21:04] <blitzo> bastid_raZor, i cannot access their website
[21:05] <Pici> blitzo: Try #cairo-dock perhaps
[21:05] <ilovefairuz> manday: actually just found only that only the right alt key works!!
[21:05] <asda> Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop amd64?is it true for phenom2 X6 1055T
[21:06] <ritztech> is there a way to automate a file transfer Without Scp and try something else
[21:06] <ritztech> like wput
[21:06] <Deist> Hi! I'm having kind of a major problem with my Ubuntu 10.04. My Touchpad is "gone". Not showing up in mouse settings and not giving any kind of respons. I'm on a Macbook Pro 6.2.
[21:06] <Deist> Anyone heard of it? I tried googeling but no respons.
[21:06] <ilovefairuz> ritztech: why not scp?
[21:06] <ritztech> trying to automate
[21:06] <ritztech> and im building a TCL script
[21:07] <manday1> test
[21:07] <trism> combinephotos: use the -geometry option, documented here http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/montage/: -geometry +2+2 might work, supposed to be a 2 pixel gap using the largest image as the size, you can also specify a size: -geometry 100x100+2+2 to shrink them all to 100 by 100...more options in that link
[21:07] <manday1> ilovefairuz: you replied?
[21:07] <ilovefairuz> ritztech: what's wrong with automating scp?
[21:07] <ilovefairuz> manday1: to what?
[21:07] <gayumba> i am tryign to configure ldap authentication, this nice ncurses based guideded configuration came up but i cancelled it by mistake, how do i get it back
[21:08] <ritztech> it requests a password i might be able to set it up though on the TCL end
[21:08] <ilovefairuz> gayumba: sudo dpkg --configure packagename
[21:08] <brummbaer> gayumba, usually dpkg --reconfigure <packagename>
[21:08] <brummbaer> :P
[21:08] <ilovefairuz> ritztech: i linked you to key based authentication, you won't have to use password
[21:08] <Putr> Hi!"
[21:09] <ritztech> is that for every user
[21:09] <ilovefairuz> ritztech: yes
[21:09] <mowe1> i installed ubuntu from a sd card-- it was mounted automatically as sda at boot, so the hd was sdb, which led to lots of problems (grub). how can i prevent the sd card from being sda?
[21:09] <ritztech> its only one then hmmmm do i have to do it on the DEST box or SRC
[21:09] <ilovefairuz> ritztech: no ssh bindings for tcl ?
[21:09] <manday1> ilovefairuz: nevermind
[21:09] <Putr> I need to compear multiple folders for same filenames ... does ubuntu have a built in function for that? do you know of a program?
[21:09] <barfster> Is there an apt source for Ubuntu 10.04 MiniCD?
[21:10] <gayumba> but i forgot which packge name it is
[21:10] <karlo> can I make animation in gimp ?
[21:10] <barfster> karlo: Try pencil
[21:10] <ritztech> i have to do alot of research on the Tcl and the shell script to run it
[21:10] <Deist> Anyone?
[21:10] <barfster> karlo: http://pencil-animation.org/
[21:11] <karlo> barfster: I was using pencil, but I was thinking to make animation in gimp...
[21:11] <ilovefairuz> Putr: 'comm'
[21:11] <Poul|Raider> I have a ubuntu server box, setup with a pptp connection for incoming connections. I also have sub1.domain.xx and sub2.domain.xx - is it posible to setup somekind of forwarding on the linux box so incoming packages from sub1 will be forwarded to xx.xx.xx.xx:port and from sub2 forwarded to yy.yy.yy.yy:port( where xx... yy... are local ips on the network which the  linux box is on)
[21:12] <barfster> karlo: My kids use pencil, it it very nice, gimp I do not know that much, I believe it’s just a Photoshop comptetitor.
[21:12] <ilovefairuz> Deist: check /var/log/Xorg.log.0 for any relevant messages
[21:12] <abc_> How can I kill a process runnung at a pecific port in ubuntu ?
[21:13] <Putr> thanks ilovefairuz
[21:13] <abc_> How can I kill a process running at a specific port in ubuntu ?
[21:13] <froschi> abc_: find the pid with netstat, kill it
[21:13] <bt4> abc_ install htop
[21:13] <ilovefairuz> abc_: netstat -tupln to find it
[21:13] <gayumba> i dont know what the name of the packge is i need to dkpg --reconfigure (its the ldap client package)
[21:13] <karlo> barfster: one problem in pencil for me is becouse you can not save animation as a gif...
[21:13] <ilovefairuz> and then killall processname
[21:13] <profxavier> hi, on my router, I can setup alerts [email alerts], when I configure it, with an SMTP server, can I use one, similar to yahoo/hotmail/gmail ?
[21:13] <nicolindalciucio> ubuntu-it
[21:14] <barfster> karlo: so you want to make gifmation?
[21:14] <nicolindalciucio> italiano
[21:14] <karlo> yea
[21:14] <barfster> Maybe ffmpeg can convert pencil output to gifmation?
[21:14] <picard1421> is it possible to start entrance without a GUI.. i have no KDE< or GNOME.. its just a server.. but i want a GUI login screen>>>???
[21:14] <abc_> ilovefairuz: froschi: it doesn't show up in netstat
[21:14] <karlo> barfster: I gonna try that, ty
[21:14] <ilovefairuz> picard1421: xdm and a custom session file?
[21:14] <c3l> how do I update these: The following packages have been kept back:
[21:14] <c3l> linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[21:15] <picard1421> xdm?
[21:15] <bastidrazor> abc_: use sudo to get the application name
[21:15] <froschi> abc_: then it's not there. or try as root (with 'sudo netstat')
[21:15] <barfster> karlo: ffmpeg -i original_movie.avi output_file.gif
[21:15] <ilovefairuz> c3l: leave them they will be updated when ready
[21:15] <manday> erUSUL: no, it just happend again, X hung up mouse pointer could still be moved, music was still playing and I pressed Alt Ctrl F1 and nothing happend
[21:15] <ilovefairuz> abc_: sudo before it
[21:15] <Deist> ilovefairuz: Thanks for responding. I have no file with that name...
[21:15] <Tecna> After installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, Totem crashes when I try to play video.
[21:15] <ManDay> ilovefairuz: what sysreq would you recommend in that case?
[21:15] <c3l> ilovefairuz: oh, but its strange that the kde update notifier recommends me to update them, marked as "bugfixes"
[21:16] <c3l> ilovefairuz: no, security updates, strange that security updates are held back by aptitude
[21:17] <ectoplasme> hy
[21:17] <froschi> abc_: (or do you have a 'crashed' program blocking the port for some time? this would be an entirely different problem)
[21:17] <asda> someone pls help me i have 4gb ram so i have to install 64 bit ubuntu?
[21:17] <froschi> asda: nope
[21:17] <ilovefairuz> ManDay: 'r' or perhaps 'g'
[21:17] <picard1421> can you download files with w3m??
[21:17] <Bisu[Shield]> is theer a linux tool that is as good as winscp?
[21:18] <froschi> Bisu[Shield]: gftp i think
[21:18] <nicolindalciucio> come andare ubuntu
[21:18] <asda> froschi so i need to download 32 bit desktop ubuntu 10.04
[21:18] <abc_> froschi: I ran gpsd at a port and then closed the terminal . Now when i run it again, it says gpsd already running at port 19471
[21:18] <Rosbuntu> :D
[21:18] <c3l> Bisu[Shield]: how funny :D well ssh and scp is the tools :)
[21:18] <Rosbuntu> do u think this nick is nice?
[21:18] <ilovefairuz> Deist: pastebin: sudo ls -R /var/log
[21:18] <froschi> asda: your choice. it depends on the processor, which 64bit version you could use. but you don't have to
[21:19] <Deist> ilovefairuz: Ah! Found something in the log with similar name. "Failed to load module "multitouch" (module requirement missmatch -0)
[21:19] <abc_> froschi: so would it follow the same procedure, it doesn
[21:19] <barfster> How can I make my own repo for making an installer?
[21:19] <abc_> froschi: it doesn't list in sudo netstat
[21:19] <c3l> barfster: what do you mean 'making an installer'?
[21:19] <Deist> ilovefairuz: "No input driver matching 'multitouch'.
[21:19] <manday> FFS !!!
[21:19] <zekai> hello guys need help with my wireless connection (ubuntu 10.04 fujitsu amilo pa 1510)
[21:20] <manday> ilovefairuz: what did you just say?
[21:20] <manday> What R or what?
[21:20] <asda> froschi 4gb ram and amd phenom2 x6 1055T precessor
[21:20] <ke1ha> Bisu[Shield], Have a look here, under other Networking: http://www.libervis.com/wiki/index.php?title=Table_of_Equivalent_Software
[21:20] <barfster> c3l: If I debootstrap lucid I will make an install
[21:20] <barfster> c3l: I would like to make an installer
[21:20] <ilovefairuz> manday: use 'r' or perhaps 'g'
[21:20] <picard1421> ok how about this since i cant really get my question accross: all i want is so when i press power on my computer it boots up.. once it loads up i want it to go to a screen that just has a password line with a astatic JPEG image behind it.. if hte password works.. it goes to another static JPEG image for 5 seconds.. then just regular old terminal.. no KDE.. no enviornemnt.. no anthing.....
[21:20] <picard1421> ...literall static jpeg image password.. if works.. another jpeg image..  goes to termainl (where i have to physically log in again). this program would not log into the actual terminal.. but almost like a first barrier before the terminal?
[21:20] <manday> ok
[21:20] <froschi> abc_: is this a tcp port? i don't know gpsd. have you changed the port? from the docs: making all data on the location and movements of the sensors available to be queried on TCP port 2947
[21:20] <manday> any idea why everything is killed when I go Alt + F7 from a TTY?
[21:20] <manday> then i am back at GDM
[21:20] <manday> jeez i hate x
[21:21] <c3l> barfster: an installer for what? you want a custom ubuntu installing tool?
[21:21] <abc_> froschi: yes a TCP port, I provided port no 19471
[21:21] <ilovefairuz> Deist: pastebin the whole file
[21:21] <Tecna> After installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, Totem crashes when I try to play video.
[21:21] <barfster> c3l: In particular I would like to debootstrap lucid as MiniCD
[21:21] <barfster> c3l: affirmative
[21:21] <abc_> froschi: how to stop it then ?
[21:22] <Deist> [    24.654]
[21:22] <Deist> X.Org X Server 1.8.2
[21:22] <Deist> Release Date: 2010-07-01
[21:22] <Deist> [    24.654] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[21:22] <FloodBot1> Deist: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:22] <Deist> [    24.654] Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-27-xen x86_64 Ubuntu
[21:22] <Deist> [    24.654] Current Operating System: Linux christopher-laptop 2.6.32-24-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jul 5 09:20:59 UTC 2010 x86_64
[21:22] <picard1421> ???
[21:22] <ritztech>  scp *.tgz root@172.25.0.101:file.tgz   am i not doing this right ? its just pausing there
[21:22] <manday> ilovefairuz: are you sure that G exists?
[21:22] <manday> i cant find it in sysreq H
[21:22] <Johnf> so this is like a massive chat or what ?
[21:22] <manday> Johnf: massive, yes
[21:22] <ilovefairuz> manday: yes and try 'r' first
[21:22] <picard1421> illl brb if anyone can help me please leave me a PM ill post it again in 5 minutes
[21:22] <c3l> barfster: sorry im not familiar with debootstrap
[21:22] <manday> ilovefairuz: any hint on what unrawing is?
[21:23] <manday> ilovefairuz: what is G? I cant find it
[21:23] <ilovefairuz> Deist: use a pastebin website and post link here
[21:23] <ilovefairuz> manday: unrawing will take control back from X
[21:23] <ghostpadxa> hey pple do anyone hw to install wine in terminal
[21:23] <froschi> abc_: please try again 'sudo netstat -n | grep -w 19471' ... it *should* be there
[21:23] <Deist> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470819/ Thanks!
[21:23] <c3l> ghostpadxa: sudo apt-get install wine
[21:23] <manday> ilovefairuz: sounds lovely! on a more basic level: what does it mean? I assume the kernel has no special X related sysreq so what is unrawing in general?
[21:23] <ilovefairuz> manday: 'g' is "When using Kernel Mode Setting, provides emergency support for switching back to the kernel's framebuffer console"
[21:23] <Tecna> ghostpadxa: sudo apt-get install wine
[21:24] <ghostpadxa> thanx
[21:24] <manday> ilovefairuz: awesome, thats exactly what i need
[21:24] <froschi> abc_: if not, what *exactly* is the 'error ourput'?
[21:24] <Johnf> i'm running 10.04 netbook edition on an hp mini 110 and it will run perfect about 1/5 of the time. the other 4/5 it wont boot up and just flashes "_" on a balck screen
[21:24] <froschi> abc_: *output*
[21:24] <abc_> froschi: it doesn't shows up any the error, and nothing happens as well
[21:25] <c3l> Johnf: check logs
[21:25] <manday> ilovefairuz: im a 100% certain sysreq G is not listed in sysreq H, any idea why that is ?
[21:25] <abc_> froschi: running the same process on the same port again, it says "can't bind to port 19471"
[21:25] <ilovefairuz> manday: no idea
[21:25] <Johnf> c31: thanks how might i do that ?
[21:25] <froschi> abc_: yeah. that's an error message :) ...
[21:25] <zekai> need help with wireless connection (ath5k module) there are lost packages and corrupted packages
[21:25] <Tecna> What package provides the program that automatically searches the repo for a/v codecs?
[21:26] <karlo> any program that convert images ?
[21:26] <ke1ha> Johnf, Black Screen Workaround: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[21:26] <ilovefairuz> Deist: your touchpad device is 'bcm5974' that will help with googling
[21:26] <froschi> abc_: did you wait 5 minutes and try again then? if the process crashed, the port maybe blocked for some time
[21:27] <Deist> ilovefairuz: Thanks for your help!
[21:27] <abc_> froschi: I ran it yesterday and it is still there. I used "-G -S 19471"
[21:27] <Johnf> thanks kelha
[21:27] <ilovefairuz> Deist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-4/Lucid#Touchpad%20(bcm5974)
[21:27] <Tecna> karlo: Try nautilus-image-converter
[21:27] <froschi> abc_: but you can check on the machine, if you have installed the 'netcat' package: 'netstat -v 127.0.0.1 19471'
[21:27] <Deist> ilovefairuz: Cool! Will check it out.
[21:27] <manday> thanks ilovefairuz
[21:27] <froschi> abc_: this should give some output to tell if there is a live process listening on that port
[21:28] <ilovefairuz> manday: you're welcome
[21:28] <profxavier> i would like someone to talk with me, for a few mins and a few questions, about what a syslog server is and how I could use it.  I would like to PM, and it -will- be very short, anyone ?
[21:28] <froschi> abc_: oops
[21:28] <froschi> abc_:  'nc -v 127.0.0.1 19471' <- this is right
[21:29] <ghostpadxa> someone just hacked into system because someone is controlling my mouse and play funny sounds ,hw can i stop this
[21:29] <abc_> froschi: nc: connect to 127.0.0.1 port 19471 (tcp) failed: Connection refused
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> profxavier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syslog
[21:29] <ilovefairuz> profxavier: a syslog server is a program that other programs communicate to and send various kinds of useful messages to help with setup and configuration
[21:29] <profxavier> ghostpadxa, restart you system
[21:29] <profxavier> ActionParsnip, thanks :P
[21:29] <jglauner> Hi!  I'm trying to figure out how to get jabber to work with jabber-muc on my intranet.  I've searched online and can't find anything that resolves my problem.  Where would be a good place to ask here?  Thanks!
[21:29] <zekai> need help with wireless connection (ath5k module) there are lost packages and corrupted packages. but there is no problem with eth con
[21:30] <profxavier> can I just bother you in pm for 2 mins Action?
[21:30] <ilovefairuz> ghostpadxa: are you using ubuntu ?
[21:30] <zekai> need help with wireless connection (ath5k module ubuntu 10.04) there are lost packages and corrupted packages. but there is no problem with eth con
[21:30] <Tecna> ghostpadxa: unplug your network, change your password, and stop giving out your password and installing malware
[21:30] <ghostpadxa> profxavier: ok
[21:30] <ilovefairuz> zekai: pastebin the exact error messages you get
[21:30] <bt4> im click alt +crtl +F1 next alt+crtl + F1 F2 ... F9 / a dont say my pulpit icon ??
[21:30] <zekai> ilovefairuz no error
[21:31] <zekai> just lost packages and corrupted packages
[21:31] <ilovefairuz> zekai: how do you the packages are 'lost' or 'corrupt' ?
[21:31] <zekai> looking with wireshark
[21:31] <zekai> if i ping my route there are lost packages
[21:31] <zekai> router **
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> zekai: can you give the output of: sudo lshw -C network     you may also benefit from using a wired connection and getting fully updated
[21:31] <opij> could anyone tell me how to ssh into serverA on port 30 ?
[21:31] <ilovefairuz> zekai: these are PACKETS not packages
[21:32] <froschi> abc_: hm :/ maybe it the daemon wants to bind to 0.0.0.0 or the real_ip of the machine... dunno... or the error message 'cannot bind' is bogus... still something should show up with netstat... i usually don't suggest this, but maybe you should restart the machine? gps is a strange thing i read...
[21:32] <profxavier> opij, on serverA, you configure sshd_config to use that port, rather than the standard [but I have to ask, why port 30?]
[21:32] <Tecna> zekai, ilovefairuz: *facepalm*
[21:32] <tucemiux> opij, ssh -p 30 username@hostname
[21:32] <abc_> froschi: restarting doesn't help at all. the problem sustains
[21:32] <opij> thanks tucemiux
[21:32] <StrangeCharm> what directory should i put my shell scipts in?
[21:32] <profxavier> opij: sshd_config is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[21:33] <ilovefairuz> zekai: if you have no trouble downloading stuff, then you shouldn't worry about them
[21:33] <karlo> how to play flash video (from youtube or some web like that) in my video player (like VLC and else) ?
[21:33] <ilovefairuz> StrangeCharm: ~/bin ?
[21:33] <tucemiux> StrangeCharm, generally you make a "bin" directory in your home folder, like ilovefairuz sayz
[21:33] <ilovefairuz> karlo: you'd have to download the video first
[21:33] <zekai> damm i cant even open pastebin
[21:33] <zekai> to show output
[21:34] <ilovefairuz> zekai: are you far from the router ?
[21:34] <froschi> abc_: sorry then, i'm clueless then via remote diagnostics :/ have you tried 'ps aux | grep gpsd'?
[21:34] <StrangeCharm> tucemiux, ilovefairuz thanks
[21:34] <karlo> ilovefairuz: but I can play music from internet in terminal...
[21:34] <zekai> nop
[21:34] <Tecna> karlo: install VideoDownloadHelper from firefox's add-on repo
[21:34] <zekai> ilovefairuz im near the router
[21:34] <ilovefairuz> karlo: youtube doesn't over streaming urls
[21:34] <zekai> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/GXQm9WUu
[21:35] <ilovefairuz> !info youtube-dl | karlo
[21:35] <profxavier> opij, I think tucemiux more accurately answered your question, I hope we helped
[21:35] <ilovefairuz> karlo: or use something like minitube
[21:35] <karlo> tnx
[21:35] <Goblinz> Hi there, is it possible to get some linux help here?
[21:35] <opij> thanks for your input nonetheless profxavier
[21:35] <abc_> froschi:  1000     16580  0.0  0.0   3124   780 pts/1    S+   02:05   0:00 grep --color=auto gpsd
[21:35] <froschi> Goblinz: no, this is for linux only :)
[21:35] <ilovefairuz> !details | Goblinz
[21:36] <oCean_> Goblinz: just ask the channel your question (try to keep the description in one single line)
[21:36] <froschi> abc_: well, i don't understand why you don't see it with netstat, but 'killall gpsd' or 'sudo killall gpsd' or 'sudo killall -9 gpsd' you should try :)
[21:37] <Goblinz> I've screwed up my install.... I need to reinstall my desktop server. I'm running ubuntu
[21:37] <zekai> ilovefairuz : i had this problem before with another linux distro but i solved that with changing routers enc method aes to aes+tkip
[21:37] <Tecna> Goblinz: Welcome to Earth.  On this planet, people can get Linux help in Linux support IRC channels.
[21:37] <zekai> ilovefairuz: but with ubuntu i couldnt
[21:38] <abc_> froschi: ah, the gpsd shown in that is the one I am running normally and not on 19471. sudo killall -9 gpsd works for normal one but not for the one on 19471
[21:38] <Goblinz> i've booted off a cd and can see my old home directory. a quick fix would be to just back that up and re-install, is this possible
[21:39] <froschi> abc_: ? maybe the gpsd by 'cannot bind to port' means the hardware port the gps is connected to? *not* the tcp? that's why i asked...
[21:39] <ilovefairuz> zekai: try install backports
[21:39] <ghostpadxa> abc:just get into your system
[21:39] <zekai> ok
[21:39] <froschi> abc_: oh noes, you said 'bind to port 19471' :/
[21:40] <abc_> froschi: yes
[21:40] <abc_> froschi: gpsd: Can't bind to port 19471 gpsd: Maybe gpsd is already running!
[21:40] <ilovefairuz> abc_: what do 'sudo netstat -tupln | grep 19471' gives ?
[21:41] <paulo> posso deletar meus bookmarks que estao no ubuntu one?
[21:41] <froschi> abc_: well, as i said, i'm clueless now. try pressing enter harder or so :/
[21:41] <paulo> I can delete bookmarks that are available on my ubuntu one?
[21:41] <abc_> ilovefairuz: gives nothing
[21:41] <profxavier> when I install packagename-doc, this isnt a man file, How do I access this document?
[21:41] <abc_> froschi: ok,thanks for your help so  far
[21:42] <Goblinz> any ideas?
[21:43] <oCean_> profxavier: probably /var/lib/doc-base. Also, try dpkg -l package-doc, this will list all contents of deb
[21:43] <profxavier> oCean_: you are correct sir
[21:43] <abc_> ilovefairuz: any idea ?
[21:43] <profxavier> thank you
[21:44] <oCean_> profxavier: no prob. You made up your mind about syslog yet?
[21:44] <profxavier> i have rsyslog installed
[21:44] <profxavier> my router is set to log to it, so just about to try and get the server running the way I want
[21:44] <froschi> Goblinz: shure... from the live cd copy the data to i.e. an usb stick you trust or whatever... why not? if this is 'quick' enough for you...
[21:45] <Goblinz> hi, thanks froschi. When i try copying it says i do not have permission
[21:45] <Bob_Dole2> how...do I set a static IP from the command line?
[21:45] <{g}> Hey Ubuntu! On my VM, when I use top, i see crazy values for %CPU. Like 4999 ord 3814 or 9999. How can a task take up 9999% of the CPU time?
[21:46] <oCean_> profxavier: ok. I've used syslogd (-r), never used rsyslog.. has to be similar I guess
[21:46] <profxavier> cli web browser ?
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> abc_: does this work? sudo nc -l  19471
[21:46] <oCean_> !info lynx | profxavier
[21:47] <jglauner> I'm trying to configure jabber to use jabber-muc (for chat rooms on my intranet) on Ubuntu 10.04 (64-bit) and I'm having trouble.   Where would be a good place to ask about config file options, etc.?  (I've searched and found nothing that talks about linking up these two packages as gotten through apt-get jabber jabber-muc.)
[21:47] <ilovefairuz> Bob_Dole2: ifconfig eth0 ip_address_here
[21:47] <ke1ha> Bob_Dole2, Overview: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[21:47] <ilovefairuz> Bob_Dole2: edit /etc/network/interfaces if you want it permanent
[21:48] <froschi> Goblinz: hm, how do you try to copy? you can get an 'root browser' with *all* permissions (be careful then!) with alt-f2 and entering 'gksudo nautilus' i think
[21:48] <profxavier> oCean_: how would I start using it ? man syslog ?
[21:48] <Beastilation> Hi need to find network staffer, unsure about wat channel to go to
[21:48] <Beastilation> (ps: ubuntu is great)
[21:48] <ke1ha> Bob_Dole2, DHCP to Static: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html
[21:48] <profxavier> Beastilation try /list ?
[21:48] <JoshuaL> Beastilation, #freenode
[21:48] <Beastilation> nice one cheers
[21:49] <profxavier> also, /list keyword
[21:49] <gos> Hi i wanted install compiz-fusion in ubuntu lxde with ubuntu-tweak and this is the error reporte:   Traceback (most recent call last):
[21:49] <gos>   File "/usr/share/ubuntu-tweak/mainwindow.py", line 567, in setup_notebook
[21:49] <gos>     page = page()
[21:49] <gos>   File "/usr/share/ubuntu-tweak/compiz.py", line 225, in __init__
[21:49] <gos>     self.create_interface()
[21:49] <midar> actually: /stats p
[21:49] <gos>   File "/usr/share/ubuntu-tweak/compiz.py", line 247, in create_interface
[21:49] <gos>     self.snap = SnapWindow(_("Enable snapping windows"), self)
[21:49] <gos>   File "/usr/share/ubuntu-tweak/compiz.py", line 198, in __init__
[21:49] <gos>     self.plugin = self.context.Plugins['snap']
[21:49] <midar> (as documented on opn website)
[21:49] <ilovefairuz> !paste
[21:49] <gos> KeyError: 'snap'
[21:49] <gos>  
[21:49] <ilovefairuz> gos: stop!
[21:50] <oCean_> profxavier: The syslogd server has to be configured to listen to remote incoming. All other servers have to have a line in syslog.conf that forwards messages from certain facility.priority to that syslogd server
[21:50] <tucemiux> gos, use paste bin
[21:50] <profxavier> oCean_, where is the .conf ?
[21:50] <profxavier> ah, in /etc
[21:50] <oCean_> profxavier: on the "clients" you have to modify /etc/syslog.conf
[21:51] <profxavier> oh wait
[21:51] <profxavier> mine just has rsyslog.conf in /etc
[21:51] <StrangeCharm> how do i alias a shell script to a shorter name?
[21:51] <Goblinz> froschi, you absolute star :) Do you know where in my bookmarks (opera + firefox) woudl reside in my home directory?
[21:51] <oCean_> profxavier: the syslogd server config is in eh.. in eh.. /etc/default/syslogd I think
[21:52] <oCean_> profxavier: yeah, rsyslog and syslogd do differ..
[21:52] <profxavier> i just see rsyslog everywhere I look
[21:52] <profxavier> ill just play around with it a bit
[21:52] <ke1ha> profxavier, it's notmally /etc/syslog.conf
[21:52] <gos> Is there a solution for my error?
[21:53] <ke1ha> profxavier, Have a looky here: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-remote-syslog-logging-debian-and-ubuntu
[21:53] <jglauner> StrangeCharm: alias short_name='long_command_here'  You can add an alias to your ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc files.
[21:54] <StrangeCharm> thanks jglauner
[21:54] <Putr> hey how can i find of the name (ex. eth1) of my wireless device
[21:54] <ilovefairuz> Putr: ifconfig
[21:55] <froschi> Goblinz: make sure edit->preferences->view->show_hidden_files is checked, firefox is somewher in .mozilla/firefox, opera i dunno, maybe .opera? ... or just copy everthing visible and hidden in your homedir...
[21:55] <blockhead> hello, need a bit of help
[21:55] <blockhead> Are there audio converters for ubuntu, similar to
[21:55] <blockhead> Devede
[21:55] <oCean_> blockhead: go right ahead. Try to keep the description in one single line
[21:56] <ilovefairuz> blockhead: ffmpeg
[21:56] <Putr> ilovefairuz: thanks
[21:56] <oCean_> !info devede
[21:57] <ilovefairuz> nice
[21:58] <kc8pxy> can someone help me understand why i can't connect to my openvpn with the network-manager openvpn plugin??   i can connect manually from CLI, but iwanted to try out the network manager vpn settings. it's complaining that i don't have a secret for my key. (which i don't) and that's "correct".
[21:58] <sixofour> so ive been using the package manager to install some programs...am i supposed to run all of these with terminal? most of them are games
[21:58] <blockhead> Similar to Devede but for AUDIO only.
[21:58] <sixofour> there are no menu shortcvuts for them
[21:58] <erUSUL> sixofour: they did not appeared in games menu ?
[21:58] <blockhead> Audio Converter, tht converts Mp4 to Mp3 or WMV
[21:58] <sixofour> nope
[21:59] <sixofour> i installed about 10 games too, all part of ubuntu games package
[21:59] <erUSUL> sixofour: winff? soundconverter?
[21:59] <sixofour> ?
[21:59] <shurathing> Greetings. Having issues with ibus. It's not switching languages and seems to freeze the program I'm in when trying to switch languages. 10.04 netbook w/lucid backports
[21:59] <erUSUL> sixofour: sorry; tab completion error ;P
[22:00] <erUSUL> blockhead: winff? soundconverter?
[22:00] <SubCool> anyone use KRDC? - has it ever logged into its remote computer, and then never refresh the screen? Although all actions do take effect? I am REmoting into another ubuntu box- as of now.
[22:00] <blockhead> The file is 1.3GB of Audio
[22:00] <blockhead> Trying to convert it from mp4 to mp3 or WMV
[22:01] <sixofour> audiacity might work, but i don't think they have a linux version
[22:01] <sixofour> blockhead:
[22:01] <Putr> hey i installed xmbc live .. but was unable to connect to my wireless network while under install. Is there a way to still connect to the wireless network?
[22:01] <erUSUL> !info audacity
[22:02] <erUSUL> blockhead: ffmpeg -i file.mp4 -ab 256k file.mp3
[22:02] <erUSUL> blockhead: you have to install lame
[22:02] <SubCool> Nevermind- its the server.
[22:02] <blockhead> lame? don't know what that is
[22:02] <Takatori> Hiya, I have a version of Ubuntu Server installed, I was wondering how I would setup my own IRC server
[22:02] <erUSUL> !info lame
[22:02] <opij> what is the command to exit telnet?
[22:02] <sixofour> erUSUL:  any idea bout my issue?
[22:03] <frag4now> How can I install amule and amule-adunanza on the same machine. I get a lock that remove one of them when i try to install the other...
[22:03] <Takatori> opij, try the Ctrl+C escape.
[22:03] <blockhead> installing now erUSUL
[22:03] <SubCool> bbl- i give up lol.
[22:03] <Takatori> opij, why Telnet?  Why not SSH?
[22:03] <erUSUL> sixofour: the few games i installed from repos appeared in Aplications>Games menu
[22:03] <blockhead> thank you
[22:03] <froschi> Takatori: why a duck?
[22:03] <Takatori> A... what? Froschi...
[22:04] <froschi> opij: ctrl-] ENTER 'quit' ENTER
[22:04] <picard1421> does anyone have the binaries for PAM face authentication i would greatly appreciate it.. i cant compile it for some rsaon???
[22:04] <Takatori> Hiya, I have a version of Ubuntu Server installed, I was wondering how I would setup my own IRC server
[22:04] <froschi> Takatori: obviously you do not know the classic marx brothers line...
[22:04] <Takatori> froschi:  Obviously not :)
[22:05] <frag4now> erUSUL: How can I install amule and amule-adunanza on the same machine. I get a lock that remove one of them when i try to install the other...
[22:05] <Takatori> Does anyone know how I can start my own IRC server?  I have Ubuntu Server atm
[22:05] <froschi> Takatori: google it, get the movie, laugh. repeat until done
[22:05] <Takatori> froschi: Will do :)
[22:05] <ilovefairuz> picard1421: pastebin compile errors
[22:05] <dagon666> hello. In Karmic, when I choose for example a gnome-session where is the file located that contains the commands which are eecuted to run this particular one ?
[22:06] <picard1421> http://pastebin.com/60WHAUPp
[22:06] <Poul|Raider> anyone good with iptables here, i have my linux box connected to the internet with seth0 and ppp0 (incoming requests are coming from ppp0 and seth0 is another connection which the local computers are accesable on aswell. I would like to add so if a incoming request come on ppp0 port 3386 it forward it to 192.168.0.20:3386
[22:07] <Goblinz> Thanks froschi, all sorted. just out of interest what's the difference between gksudo and sudo?
[22:07] <Takatori> !info gksudo
[22:07] <Takatori> Meh.
[22:07] <Takatori> Worth a shot
[22:07] <Takatori> QQ
[22:07] <FloodBot1> Takatori: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <xsaiddx> hello
[22:08] <themesh> hello
[22:08] <brummbaer> Goblinz: gksudo is gui, sudo is cli
[22:09] <xsaiddx> hello guys
[22:09] <Rosbuntu> :)
[22:09] <xsaiddx> im on lubuntu i have removed plymouth and evrythin is gone : (
[22:09] <Goblinz> ah, nice one. Thanks muchly for help, i'm off to delete windows and install :)
[22:10] <Takatori> IRCD works as my own IRC server, correct?
[22:10] <picard1421> anyone??? http://pastebin.com/60WHAUPp
[22:11] <Pudabudigada> !ping
[22:11] <froschi> peng?
[22:11] <kroson> hi ppl
[22:11] <Pudabudigada> !ping
[22:12] <Pudabudigada> I'm to guess that doesn't work here?
[22:12] <kroson> ive just installed ubuntu, it made my windows hour advance +1 hour. How could i fix my windows time? Just change it in the taskbar, or disable something in ubuntu?
[22:12] <kroson> tks in advance
[22:12] <ke1ha> picard1421, see if you have libcvaux-dev
[22:13] <ke1ha> picard1421, you should ahve libcv, libcvaux and libhighgui and assiciated pkg's
[22:14] <brummbaer> kroson: i imagine you probably reset system time in the bios somehow, just adjusting the time in windows should work. or better yet have both windows and linux get the time from ntp
[22:14] <diogo_79> hi
[22:14] <diogo_79> how can i enable power management under the kernel?
[22:14] <Pudabudigada> On the subject of clocks, how do I set the time in 10.4?
[22:14] <kroson> brummbaer: nothing in bios, really, just went back to windows and verified that
[22:14] <Pudabudigada> *10.04
[22:15] <kroson> in bios its set to windows time too, i mean, +1 hour than before
[22:15] <kroson> but didnt change anything in bios, really
[22:15] <sda> hi all!
[22:16] <benjamin_> some body speak spanish?
[22:16] <kroson> brummbaer: has it something to do with UTC? ive heard something on that matter but dont know what it is
[22:16] <rww> ubottu: es | benjamin_
[22:16] <benjamin_> ok
[22:16] <rww> kroson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime , see the section "Multiple Boot Systems Time Conflicts"
[22:17] <brummbaer> kroson: normally the bios is set to UTC, and the OS reads system time as a +/- hours based on timezone you're in
[22:17] <kroson> brummbaer: i think windows gets the time normally from bios
[22:17] <kroson> but i think i know whats happening
[22:18] <kroson> i still didnt connect ubuntu to internet so it still isnt sync as it should
[22:19] <Raman> Hey, something weird is happening with Xchat, every time I click on WyldRyde on my servers bar to the left it crashes Xchat completely, does anyone know why it would do that?
[22:20] <Pudabudigada> Raman: Doe it do it when other programs are running?
[22:20] <mxe5> Hi - Just booted up a 10.04 on a Panasonic Toughbook notebook with 2gb's ram - Would like to install Lucid on it but it's asking for a Username instead of coming up to a desktop Any idea's ? ?
[22:21] <duckwars> why does the command fdisk /dev/sda not work?
[22:21] <mxe5> Was trying a Live CD to see if all the harware works 1st.
[22:21] <diogo_79> here do i found menu.lst in ubuntu 10.04
[22:21] <diogo_79> ?
[22:22] <brummbaer> !grub2 | diogo_79
[22:22] <Pudabudigada> mxe5: Are you using a live cd?
[22:22] <Raman> Padu: sorry it crashed again, all I have running is the terminal and firefox
[22:22] <mxe5> Pudabudigada: Yup sure am.
[22:24] <mxe5> Pudabudigada: I'm on my other desktop in IRC now.
[22:25] <Pudabudigada> mxe5: You should just be able to hit a 'login' button, that's what I did.
[22:25] <arikadiusz> jo jo
[22:27] <duckwars> what is the most universal drive format, so linux os x and windows can read?
[22:27] <mxe5> Pudabudigada: I tried that but it wants a username - won't go past say's Authentication Failed
[22:28] <niks1608> hi all
[22:28] <masom> Hi, my cups client is always attempting to send print job as pdf instead of PS (the driver used is generic postscript driver). Anybody knows why?
[22:28] <iceroot> duckwars: vfat and ntfs (ask mac os people if mac os can read them)
[22:28] <mikeru> iceroot: it can
[22:28] <mxe5> Pudabudigada: You know a root or Admin username and password I could use ?
[22:28] <duckwars> what does ntfs stand for?
[22:29] <duckwars> tryin gto find it in fdisk list
[22:29] <masom> New Technology File System
[22:29] <iceroot> duckwars: new technology file system
[22:29] <duckwars> thanks
[22:29] <Pudabudigada> mxe5: Unless you want to try it first you could just hit the 'install' button on the first menu you get upon booting the cd.
[22:30] <duckwars> this is crazy
[22:30] <duckwars> ga;lkfad;lsjddfjklajsdf
[22:30] <duckwars> I just want to format my USB... i have a headless server =(
[22:30] <netbook> Hi is there a way to install a gui browser on a server w/o X and just display the browser through xforwarding?
[22:31] <brummbaer> netbook: your question answered itself, xforwarding would require x
[22:31] <mxe5> Pudabudigada, ; It did not even stop and ask it just booted right up might need to check my download or download it again and try a new burn.
[22:31] <iceroot> netbook: what about w3m, lynx? and you eed x on the server to do what you want (x doesnt mean gnome)
[22:32] <mxe5> duckwars: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NTFS
[22:32] <netbook> iceroot i need javascript
[22:32] <Pudabudigada> mxe5: Is it just a standard livs cd? Did you make it yourself or did someone give it to you?
[22:32] <iceroot> netbook: no problem for w3m
[22:32] <netbook> iceroot i am trying to change router settings on box at home
[22:32] <brummbaer> netbook: if you just want the network connection to go through that specific server you could proxy the browser on localhost to the server
[22:33] <netbook> hmnmm good call brummbaer
[22:33] <mxe5> Pudabudigada: It's a standard i86 live boot cd - should be the latest one.
[22:33] <brummbaer> netbook, i do this as 'ssh -D 8080 user@host' then set my browser to connect to localhost port 8080
[22:34] <iceroot> netbook: what about ssh user@server-adress -L 9999:router-adress:80  and then use localhost:9999 on your client-browser, so the server is forwarding to the router
[22:34] <Pudabudigada> mxe5: You don't have a stuck enter key, do you?
[22:35] <Putr> hi i just installed XBMC Live ... i need to setup a wireless connection... does anyone know how to do that?
[22:35] <sepidev> why most of the themes in meerkat work so slowly?
[22:35] <iceroot> sepidev: #ubuntu+1
[22:35] <sepidev> ok
[22:36] <Guest43571> i'm running latest ubuntu under vmware fusion. i'd like to make my screen DPI/PPI match that of the host osx environment, how can I set it? (I know the value is 117)
[22:36]  * kow is away: I'm busy
[22:37] <mxe5> Pudabudigada: I just downloaded on this desktop machine and burned it with Brasero - I've done it many many times before - 1st time I've seen this actually. I run Lucid and an older version of Karmic Koala
[22:38] <Pudabudigada> mxe5: On that laptop?
[22:38] <c3l> to check if a file exists, is -e or -a the correct option for test/[ ?
[22:39] <Pudabudigada> mxe5: 'Cause as I said, it could be a stuck enter key or similar hardware issue.
[22:39] <zenix> What are the default login username / password for root-login in Ubuntu? (Have searched, but have not found this).
[22:39] <iceroot> c3l: man test, its -e
[22:39] <brummbaer> zenix, there is no root
[22:40] <iceroot> !root | zenix
[22:40] <shiv> all my index.theme files are blank when I open with gedit. What am I missing. I am trying to configure cursors
[22:40] <smv> on the server's eth0 i have a cable that is used to make a PPPoE connection to the ISP. on the server's eth1 i have binded a DHCP server to allow other machines to connect to the internet. on eth1 i have a clabe that goes into a router on the wan port. would've used a switch but don't have one atm. the router seems to get IP from the DHCP server, and it seems to give IP on it's own subnetwork. the problem is that altough the DHCP seems to be working, as i can ping
[22:40] <smv>  and ssh from a machine into de the server throug the router, but i can't connect to the internet from those machines. am i missing something? (sorry for the verry long line)
[22:41] <c3l> iceroot: ah thanks, maybe -a is old, its refered to alot on the web
[22:41] <iceroot> c3l: never heard of -a
[22:41] <zenix> Thanks for your help!
[22:44] <alpharesearch> I have a issue on a kids netbook (intel classmate pc) - it runs edubuntu 10.04 with netbook remix - if I don't move the mouse the package download slows or stops???
[22:45] <picard1421> http://pastebin.com/60WHAUPp
[22:45] <picard1421> whats going wrong??
[22:45] <slow-motion> n8
[22:45] <alpharesearch> is there some energy saver setting that disables the wired network card?
[22:46] <Pudabudigada> alpharesearch: Is this with gui or cli?
[22:47] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: both as far as I can tell
[22:48] <alpharesearch> the download goes from 250 kb/s to 12kb/s
Can you disable mouse?
[22:49] <mxe5> Pudabudigada: Sorry was on the phone abit - Yea I'll try that - Actually will boot a windows cd or Hirens Boot and make sure the cd is actually ok or not Thanks
[22:50] <Underscore> Hi everyone. I'm new to Ubuntu, and I was wondering what the best way to install it would be for me - I want a persistent install which runs speedily (IE not in something like virtualbox) and without installing it too deeply in my system to begin with - I run Windows 7 at the moment. Thanks.
[22:50] <shiv> all my index.theme files are blank when I open with gedit. What am I missing. I am trying to configure cursors
[22:50] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: it is a mouse pad on the laptop to be precise - i don't use an external mouse
[22:50] <barfster> Anyone got a good how to on making a custom repo?
[22:51] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: and it looks like it not just down to 12 kb/s it just stops
[22:51] <ke1ha> Underscore, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[22:51] <iceroot> Underscore: what does "not to deeply means" in this context?
[22:51] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: but as soon as i put my finger on the pad it start again
[22:51] <Zeek> My Ubuntu...she is sad....  I went in and disabled my onboard audio.  Next I went into Ubuntu it rammed me into 640x480 resolution (nvidia).  Nvidia seems to think that is all it can do, but it all is still ok in my Windows mode.  Even re-enabling the onboard audio did not help.  Lotsa errors in /var/log/messages....any ideas what I can do to start troubleshooting this?
[22:51] <Pudabudigada> alpharesearch:Is there a button on the laptop to disable the pad? The one I'm using has one.
[22:52] <travisg> i'm running latest ubuntu under vmware fusion. i'd like to make my screen DPI/PPI match that of the host osx environment, how can I set it? (I know the value is 117)
[22:52] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: no
[22:52] <Underscore> iceroot: Basically I want to be able to easily remove it if I need to - it seems a lot of installs require formatting of drives and allocating permanent space on a drive
[22:53] <mmfb> How do you add icons on the panel at the top?
[22:53] <mmfb> Like shortcuts, I mean.
[22:53] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: it's a m&a companion pc
[22:53] <Pudabudigada> alpharesearch:What environment are you using?
[22:53] <cresuso> Hello
[22:53] <iceroot> Underscore: hm, maybe wubi is an option for you, which you can later transform into a stand-alone system
[22:53] <cresuso> How do i uninstall perl on Ubuntu ?
[22:53] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: edubuntu 10.4 with netbook remix
[22:53] <iceroot> !wubi | Underscore
[22:54] <iceroot> cresuso: dont do that
[22:54] <cresuso> iceroot: I must do it
[22:54] <iceroot> cresuso: breaks the system
[22:54] <Seveas> cresuso, no, if you do it you break your system.
[22:54] <cresuso> iceroot: I want to do it on an ubuntu server
[22:54] <Seveas> so, to uninstall perl, overwrite ubuntu with windows
[22:54] <iceroot> cresuso: breaks the system
[22:54] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: I think the download stops if I don't move my finger
[22:54] <cresuso> Because i got an erorr while running a script
[22:54] <cresuso> it says
[22:54] <cresuso> Can't locate io/socket.pm in @INC
[22:54] <Seveas> cresuso, are you at all listening?
[22:55] <cresuso> And with some search in google, it says i have to reinstall perl
[22:55] <iceroot> cresuso: then install that modul but dont remove perl
[22:55] <cresuso> I do Seveas
[22:55] <cresuso> I installed the module
[22:55] <cresuso> Still same error
[22:55] <frag4now> where are downloaded ubuntu packages?
[22:55] <Seveas> uninstalling perl breaks your system. Don't do it. Your google-fu is weak, find a better solution
[22:55] <iceroot> !enter | cresuso
[22:55] <cresuso> On a topic, they say reinstall perl
[22:55] <iceroot> frag4now: /var/cache/apt/
[22:55] <frag4now> iceroot: thanks
[22:55] <Alan502> Hi, is it possible to run rsync whenever a computer with a certain ip is found on my local network?
[22:56] <Seveas> cresuso, also, learn to spell. Case matters on ubuntu. It's IO::Socket
[22:56] <iceroot> cresuso: reinstall on ubuntu has nothing to do with reinstall on windows. reinstall doesnt change any problems
[22:56] <Pudabudigada> alpharesearch: Sorry, I really can't think of anything, I'll poke around my system to see if there is anything but I'm using  xfce so I probably won't find anything.
[22:56] <cresuso> Ok iceroot
[22:56] <cresuso> Here is the full error btw : Can't locate io/socket.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at ch.pl line 2.
[22:56] <Seveas> cresuso, also, learn to spell. Case matters on ubuntu. It's IO::Socket
[22:56] <iceroot> cresuso: and again, dont remove perl, its breaking the system very very bad
[22:56] <ke1ha> Alan502, http://everythinglinux.org/rsync/
[22:57] <iceroot> !find socket.pm
[22:57] <cresuso> What i should do then iceroot ?
[22:57] <Seveas> cresuso, also, learn to spell. Case matters on ubuntu. It's IO::Socket
[22:57] <cresuso> I installed that module already.......:s
[22:57] <iceroot> cresuso: sudo apt-get install parrot-devel
[22:57] <Seveas> iceroot, no
[22:57] <Seveas> he just needs to spell properly
[22:57] <iceroot> Seveas: no?
[22:57] <Seveas> The module is IO::Socket, not io::socket
[22:57] <Underscore_> ke1ha: Thanks, just a question - how risky is resizing a windows install? Like, is there a chance that my data could be corrupted? And in addition, is data easily accessible from the windows partition from within Ubuntu?
[22:57] <cresuso> Ok wait Seveas.
[22:57] <iceroot> Seveas: ah ok
[22:57] <Seveas> but cresuso seems blind or doesn't want to follow clear instructions
[22:58] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: thanks for your thoughts
[22:58] <Pudabudigada> alpharesearch: Such as they were :-)
[22:59] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: i found a workaround, i connected a external usb mouse and now the download works
[22:59] <ke1ha> Alan502, rsync examples: http://www.samba.org/rsync/documentation.html
[22:59] <bastidrazor> Underscore: defrag from inside windows your windows partition before resizing. any time you resize a partition you risk corruption, so make backups of important files. yes windows files are easily visible
[22:59] <Underscore> bastidrazor: Great, thanks :)
[22:59] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: i think the kernel musst go into some sleep mode
[23:00] <cresuso> Ok i did this
[23:00] <cresuso> In Cpan i typed : install IO::Socket, it said its ok
[23:00] <cresuso> But when i launch the script.....same error
[23:00] <Seveas> cresuso, IO::Socket is part of perl-base, which comes with ubuntu
[23:01] <Seveas> did you change io::socket to IO::Socket in your script?
[23:01] <cresuso> Hmm, let me check please.
[23:01] <struhevol> how do i get a login menu
[23:01] <iceroot> struhevol: the gdm-login?
[23:01] <Seveas> cresuso, also, this isn't a programming help channel. try #perl or perlmonks.org
[23:02] <struhevol> kde
[23:02] <pradeep> hi
[23:02] <pradeep> everyone
[23:02] <Underscore> Also, is it possible to install ubuntu without using a CD? Or is it really convoluted to do that
[23:02] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: there is a chance that after the upgrade this bug is gone
[23:02] <iceroot> Underscore: you can use a usb-drive
[23:02] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: do don't worry about it
[23:02] <struhevol> kde login
[23:02] <Pudabudigada> alpharesearch: Sorry I can't be of more help.
[23:03] <struhevol> hoe do i get a kde login manager
[23:03] <iceroot> struhevol: and at the moment you are on the shell?
[23:03] <Underscore> iceroot: Oh, indeed, I just read that - how much space does it take?
[23:03] <iceroot> Underscore: 700mb
[23:03] <struhevol> no
[23:03] <struhevol> i did startx
[23:03] <Underscore> iceroot: Oh, that's good
[23:03] <cresuso> Even with IO::Socket, i get the erorr
[23:03] <iceroot> cresuso: #perl
[23:03] <struhevol> and i got kde gui
[23:03] <Underscore> iceroot: Also, I see it recommends the 32-bit edition. Why is that? Wouldn't the 64 be faster?
[23:04] <Seveas> cresuso, type this command and give me the output: perl -mIO::Socket -e1
[23:04] <iceroot> Underscore: 64bit doesnt mean faster
[23:04] <iceroot> Underscore: and i dont know why 32bit should be recommend? who said that?
[23:04] <linxeh> Underscore: compatibility is still better with 32bit, especially with closed source packages
[23:04] <cresuso> Nothing Seveas
[23:04] <iceroot> struhevol: i guess you want sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[23:04] <Underscore> iceroot: The website - 32-bit - Recommended for most users 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage
[23:05] <Seveas> cresuso, that means IO::Socket exists and can be loaded. You're doing something else wrong.
[23:05] <mohadib_> is it possible to have my window manager never start windows in a maximized state?
[23:05] <Seveas> cresuso, so now is the time to move to a perl help channel :)
[23:05] <Underscore> iceroot: But wouldn't 64-bit utilize more memory?
[23:05] <linxeh> Underscore: fwiw, I'm running the 64bit desktop version just fine
[23:05] <iceroot> Underscore: dont know why, sorry
[23:05] <travisg> i'm running latest ubuntu under vmware fusion. i'd like to make my screen DPI/PPI match that of the host osx environment, how can I set it? (I know the value is 117)
[23:05] <linxeh> Underscore: how much RAM do you have ?
[23:05] <Underscore> linxeh: 4gb
[23:05] <iceroot> Underscore: yes 64bit is using more then 4gb ram ad working fine here on my lucid-installation
[23:05] <iceroot> Underscore: with 4gb ram you need 64bit version
[23:05] <travisg> i don't seem to have an xorg.conf file anywhere to set it....
[23:05] <pradeep> Underscore,  4gb ram for wat
[23:06] <Underscore> iceroot: That's what I was thinking, I have 64 bit on windows. Was just curious as to why the website advises 32 bit.
[23:06] <linxeh> pradeep: I've got 4GB, my system at work has 16GB
[23:06] <struhevol> bash: /etc/init.d/kdm: No such file or directory
[23:06] <pradeep> i got a core 2 quad, 8gb ram and 1tb hdd
[23:06] <pradeep> for my uncle
[23:06] <theoctagon> iceroot: > 4gb you need 64bit
[23:06] <linxeh> theoctagon: or PAE in 32bit
[23:06] <picard1421> is there an easy platform to make a custom login screen
[23:06] <Underscore> But it might be what linxeh said about compatibility
[23:07] <picard1421> for CLI
[23:07] <iceroot> theoctagon: wrong
[23:07] <pradeep> Underscore, do u mean 16gb ram size
[23:07] <pradeep> ?
[23:07] <travisg> how can X be running without an xorg.conf file?
[23:07] <iceroot> theoctagon: 4gb ram needs 64bit, not only >4gb
[23:07] <picard1421> is there anyway to have a password authentication program before it reaches CLI..
[23:07] <Underscore> pradeep: I'm not sure, sorry
[23:07] <Underscore> pradeep: I have 4gb ram myself
[23:07] <linxeh> pradeep: where I used to work, we had machines with 2TB of RAM (in a single addressible environment)
[23:08] <brummbaer> !luks | picard1421
[23:08] <picard1421> i wanted to setup something like before it gets to the user and login: have a screen that just says password.. if 3 times password failes (not same password as CLI  just a random pass for that program.. then AUTODESLETE everything
[23:08] <cresuso> Seveas: Fixed, it was IO::Socket, i just forgot to change it in the second place in my script
[23:08] <cresuso> Thanks
[23:08] <cresuso> Bye
[23:08] <brummbaer> ah fail
[23:08] <brummbaer> picard1421, you should look into luks
[23:08] <frag4now> "dpkg -x" extracts file in current directory?
[23:08] <struhevol> bash: /etc/init.d/kdm: No such file or directory
[23:09] <struhevol> how do i get kdm
[23:09] <picard1421> is that like a password before getting into user login?
[23:09] <Seveas> struhevol, sudo apt-get install kdm
[23:09] <struhevol> thanks
[23:09] <struhevol> worked
[23:09] <Johnf> whats the best tool to edit GRUB ?
[23:10] <Underscore_> (sorry, disconnected) So it's essential I pick up the 64-bit version if I have 4gb of RAM? Or just preferred? I'm surprised it doesn't mention this on the website.
[23:10] <nutzer> hi
[23:10] <pradeep> linxeh,  do you mean 2tb of hdd or ram size huh?
[23:10] <linxeh> pradeep: RAM...
[23:10] <pradeep> never heard or seen a ram chip of 2tb
[23:10] <Seveas> Johnf, generally you don't edit grub but files in /etc/grub.d/ -- any text editor will do
[23:10] <linxeh> pradeep: you can get intel servers with 512GB of RAM these days
[23:10] <pradeep> linxeh, so what would be the clock speed of the processor
[23:11] <theoctagon> linxeh: if you have the money - that's true :P
[23:11] <jpds> linxeh: You can get HP ones with 2TB of RAM.
[23:11] <Nyuuki> .___.
[23:12] <alpharesearch> Pudabudigada: FYI system log viewer shows rtkit-deamon doing something... some canary thread is starving ???
[23:12] <linxeh> pradeep: the processors were clocked at 1.73ghz, itaniums. they had 32 of them, 4 cores each (ie 128 cores total)
[23:12] <pradeep> linxeh, do they come in chips
[23:12] <linxeh> jpds: these were HP :)
[23:12] <linxeh> pradeep: eh ?
[23:12] <linxeh> pradeep: these things take up a small room
[23:13] <agmin> noob question-- I just used the package manager to install the sun java jdk, and now I want to point /usr/bin/java to the sun java install. How do I find out where the sun-java-jdk is actually installed to create the symlink?
[23:13] <Pudabudigada> alpharesearch: I think it's gone beyond me now, sorry.
[23:13] <mikeru> heey
[23:13] <Johnf> sorry i'm new to this .. so what program should i use ? any suggestions (editing the grub text)
[23:13] <mikeru> I accidentaly overwrote a file
[23:13] <harrumph_> im root.  there's a directory. can't rmdir it.  says it doesnt exist.  here's the ls output http://pastebin.com/WbJsfQdD
[23:13] <mikeru> how can I get the old file  back?
[23:13] <harrumph_> htdocs is the dir
[23:14] <Seveas> agmin, sudo update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun
[23:14] <Seveas> mikeru, you can't, unless you pay a datarecovery company a hefy amount of money
[23:14] <theoctagon> harrumph_: rm -r htdocs
[23:15] <Underscore> Does installing from a USB completely mimic installing from a CD? Or are there some cons to doing it this way?
[23:15] <theoctagon> mikeru: on extX fs you can try the tool foremost and hope :P
[23:15] <harrumph_> theoctagon: rm: cannot remove `htdocs': No such file or directory
[23:15] <linxeh> Underscore: yes, the same
[23:15] <harrumph_> already fsckd at reboot
[23:16] <linxeh> Underscore: assuming your machine can usb boot
[23:16] <Underscore> linxeh: Great, thanks. I believe it can - how would I be able to check?
[23:16] <theoctagon> lharrumph_: find . -name htdocs -exec rm -r {} \;
[23:16] <iceroot> !usb | Underscore
[23:16] <pradeep> Underscore, sure you can
[23:16] <linxeh> Underscore: try it :)
[23:16] <theoctagon> maybe find will do the trick?
[23:17] <pradeep> have you heard of unetbottin
[23:17] <Underscore> linxeh: Hehe, good idea
[23:17] <pradeep> unetbootin
[23:17] <harrumph_> theoctagon: ran the find, ran silently, ls -l still has the dir
[23:17] <theoctagon> is there a whitespace behind htdocs maybe?
[23:17] <linxeh> rm  -rf htdocs*
[23:17] <theoctagon> lharrumph_: find . -name "htdocs*" -exec rm -r {} \;
[23:18] <underdev> hi!  i was wondering where i can set the $PATH before my personal .bash stuff?  I am shelling out of emacs and it doesn't run my .bash files.
[23:18] <harrumph_> YOU GUYS RULE
[23:18] <harrumph_> thank you
[23:18] <linxeh> harrumph_: the * (or ? for a single char) is a good way to change into / remove directories with bad characters in the filenames
[23:19] <Underscore> Still not sure whether I should grab the 32-bit or 64-bit version - I've got 4gb of RAM.
[23:19] <harrumph_> linxeh: thanks!
[23:19] <linxeh> harrumph_: or just save typing - eg instead of " cd some\ very\ long\ directory\ name" you could do just "cd so*me"
[23:19] <iceroot> Underscore: 64bit
[23:19] <theoctagon> linxeh: yeah - but to have that idea is simply experience :)
[23:19] <linxeh> theoctagon: yeah
[23:19] <iceroot> Underscore: dont use 32bit and dont use pae
[23:19] <pradeep> how many people has got ccna here
[23:19] <linxeh> Underscore: get 64bit
[23:19] <Underscore> iceroot: pae?
[23:19] <iceroot> !pae | Underscore
[23:20] <Underscore> iceroot: linxeh: Ok, thanks, I'll go for 64-bit :)
[23:20] <linxeh> PAE is a bit of a hack though, and a potential performance killer
[23:20] <iceroot> linxeh: -potential :)
[23:20] <juan_> ola
[23:20] <underdev> is there a place to set the system's $PATH so that each user and every shell includes that $PATH ?
[23:20] <juan_> alguien qe hable español???
[23:21] <linxeh> iceroot: :)
[23:21] <mikeru> !esp > juan_
[23:21] <mikeru> !es > juan_
[23:21] <opij> !es | juan_
[23:21] <theoctagon> mv theoctagon /dev/bed #it is late in germany :)
[23:21] <theoctagon> cu folks
[23:22] <picard1421> i need some help with LUks.. is anyone good with this ???
[23:22] <delby> hello, i just installed ubuntu 10.4. everything is running fine but when i shut down it gets stuck mid way and i have hard shutdown. any ideas?
[23:22] <mikeru> theoctagon: ext3
[23:22] <mikeru> which tool?
[23:22] <theoctagon> mikeru: give foremost a try - its in the repos or available on sourceforge
[23:23] <mikeru> hmm
[23:23] <mikeru> does it work on a mounted harddrive?
[23:23] <bidaboy> how can i migrate a sqlserver database to mysql?
[23:23] <shurathing> Hello. 10.04 HP mini... Seems I have no sound system wide. I've tried some tutorials, but I'm at a loss.
[23:23] <iceroot> bidaboy: #mysql
[23:24] <theoctagon> theoctagon: but don't put too much hope in it - its a forensic tool - developed by US department whos name is far too long to type
[23:24] <theoctagon> urgs
[23:24] <theoctagon> talking to myself already
[23:24] <diogo_79> it is possible to enable intel speedstep on ubuntu
[23:24] <diogo_79> how can this be accomplish
[23:24] <diogo_79> ?
[23:24] <bidaboy> iceroot, yes, from sqlserver
[23:24] <theoctagon> mikeru:  but don't put too much hope in it - its a forensic tool - developed by US department whos name is far too long to type
[23:24] <iceroot> bidaboy: /join #mysql   i mean
[23:25] <bidaboy> iceroot, ok
[23:25]  * theoctagon disappears in the fogs of time
[23:25] <bastidrazor> diogo_79: you mean cpu frequency scaling?  the cpufrequtils package can handle this.
[23:25] <Oer> diogo_79, speedstep is automatic enabled, no need to control this
[23:25] <fluvvell> Does anyone know why a 10.04 live cd should come up with a login prompt wanting username and password on a pc, when on a different pc it works as normal ? Ive even used the same CD player swapped across!
[23:25] <aeon-ltd> diogo_79: it happens anyway, it dynamically scales, although you can force it
[23:26] <pastysojourner> I'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, but something's wrong - GRUB doesn't show up, and I just get put into Windows automatically.Can someone advise?
[23:26] <spaceghost_> how do you cd to a wine folder with a space? cd program files won't work
[23:26] <aeon-ltd> fluvvell: maybe the liveCD is booting the full os on one but not the other?
[23:26] <diogo_79> i have a little troube
[23:26] <picard1421> anybody have any info on LUKS?
[23:26] <diogo_79> trouble
[23:26] <yggdrasil> how do i reset my top and bottom panels / bars
[23:27] <bastidrazor> !panels
[23:27] <indyfan> I Need some help
[23:27] <Johnf> i am in the /grub folder and gedit is not letting me change anything. is there a setting i have to change ?
[23:27] <diogo_79> because the motherboard bios doest have any option to enable speedstep but the processor has te flag
[23:27] <aeon-ltd> !ask | indyfan
[23:27] <shurathing> Hello. 10.04 HP mini... Seems I have no sound system wide. I've tried some tutorials, but I'm at a loss.
[23:27] <aeon-ltd> Johnf: you need run gedit as root
[23:27] <yggdrasil> thanks
[23:28] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: has the sound ever worked?
[23:28] <diogo_79> i dont kno if is possible to enable this feature on the processor only
[23:28] <Johnf> how do i run gedit as root?
[23:28] <fluvvell> aeon-ltd, not so sure when the built in operating systems are both windows. Its the 10.04 live cd menu I get first, then I check the Try Ubuntu button.. then the black screen and followed by the login prompt for pc named ubuntu
[23:28] <diogo_79> sudo gedit
[23:28] <iceroot> Johnf: gksudo gedit
[23:28] <Pudabudigada> shurathing: can you check it's not hardware?
[23:28] <iceroot> diogo_79: no
[23:28] <well_laid_lawn> shurathing: see if this link helps - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[23:28] <Johnf> thanks
[23:28] <aeon-ltd> Johnf: sudo gedit (in at terminal) or gksudo gedit in alt-f2
[23:28] <BalSak> hi guys. is there a way of monitoring what another user on a system is doing? what commands are issued & what files are accessed/modified & how? I have root
[23:29] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: I did hear the startup sound when I first installed. But after the backports I havent heard it.. and now nothing
[23:29] <iceroot> aeon-ltd: no sudo!
[23:29] <jayant> hii... i cant find the "wireless" connection in under my network connection icon in the panel... any ideas?
[23:29] <iceroot> !gksudo | aeon-ltd diogo_79
[23:29] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: can you use terminal?
[23:30] <diogo_79> without board support it is not possible to run inel speedstep
[23:30] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: I can a bit. usually just copy paste
[23:30] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: go to a terminal, type 'alsamixer' press enter
[23:30] <indyfan> Okay :)   I use UCK to edit my iso and it asks me if i want to edit the Packages on the New livecd, i choose Yes but then it says it will now make the cd and I can't edit the packages :(  when I click on "close" the terminal makes the new cd
[23:31] <jayant> hhiii... is there a manual way to start up the wireless?? i cant find the wireless connections....
[23:31] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: done... nice interface
[23:32] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: go on everything and press up on the arrow keys until all are maxed out
[23:32] <delby> hello, i just installed ubuntu 10.4. everything is running fine but when i shut down it gets stuck mid way and i have hard shutdown. any ideas?
[23:32] <jasonwryan> jayant: Is wireless enabled? Is the interface up?
[23:32] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: done
[23:33] <pastysojourner> I'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but I get "warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR. This is a BAD idea.." How do I install to the MBR?
[23:33] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: then make sure they all show 00 instead of MM, if they show MM press m on the keyboard to change it
[23:33] <jayant> yeah.. its enabled.. it was working alright for a while.. and then i download the netbook edition and lots of of the other stuff....
[23:33] <jayant> but now all of a sudden it fails to even show any wireless interface either
[23:33] <slidinghorn> Dannyboy, didn't know you came in...wasn't paying attn -- so -- have you tried to resize the window?  looks like it was cut off at the bottom maybe
[23:33] <jasonwryan> jayant: Is the interface up? ifconfig shows... what?
[23:34] <etter> hi guys. is there a way of monitoring what another user on a system is doing? what commands are issued & what files are accessed/modified & how? I have root
[23:34] <razi> hiiiiiiiiiii
[23:34] <aeon-ltd> jasonwryan: ot, but are you the same jasonwryan on archlinux forums?, if so nice desktops :)
[23:34] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: now test sound
[23:34] <Nwallins> Hi, I tried to use the alternate install disc for meerkat, to get a minimal install
[23:34] <slidinghorn> !hi | etter razi
[23:34] <Nwallins> but instead, i am getting the kitchen sink
[23:34] <jasonwryan> aeon-ltd: indeed - good to see you here!
[23:34] <jayant> ifconfig shows only the ethernet and lan0 interfeaces... theres supposed to be wlan0 interface right?? its not there
[23:34] <razi> i have a question about ubuntu
[23:34] <etter> slidinghorn: uh. ok
[23:35] <aeon-ltd> !ask | razi
[23:35] <Nwallins> is that the way the alternate install disc is supposed to work?
[23:35] <jasonwryan> jayant: make sure that you haven't accidentally turned it off...
[23:35] <slidinghorn> etter, sorry shouldn't have included you
[23:35] <iceroot> Nwallins: #ubuntu+1
[23:35] <razi> i use ubuntu 64 bits
[23:35] <Nwallins> iceroot: thx
[23:35] <aeon-ltd> Nwallins: the alternate cd installs full ubuntu just without gui installers
[23:35] <etter>  slidinghorn: that's OK
[23:35] <razi> andi when i watch a video on the internet
[23:35] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: did it work?
[23:35] <razi> my computer gets hot
[23:36] <jayant> no..theres a hardware switch on my keyboard.. its turned on..and the wireless worked when i tried it on windows...
[23:36] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: center doesn't have mm or 00, but the others are now 00
[23:36] <razi> flashplayer uses 70% of the cpu
[23:36] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: thats fine just test sound
[23:36] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: changing audio with keys... still no feedback
[23:36] <aeon-ltd> razi: sorry to say but 64bit development has been halted
[23:36] <razi> is it the sme for you ?*
[23:36] <pastysojourner> I'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but I get "warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR. This is a BAD idea.." How do I install to the MBR?
[23:37] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: do you have a music player to test with?
[23:37] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: if it was installed with the 10.04 cd... but I've no media
[23:37] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: youtube?
[23:37] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: kk....one minute
[23:37] <jasonwryan> jayant: what interfaces does ifconfig show? eth0 and loopback?
[23:38] <jayant> yeah... eth0 and lo
[23:38] <jayant> no wlan0 :(
[23:38] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: no audio ... but flash video is good
[23:38] <jasonwryan> jayant: bring up eth0 and try a scan with it (some laptops use eth0 for wireless, oddly)
[23:38] <fluvvell> has anyone seen the live 10.04 cd ever ask for a login username and password (in a gui) ?
[23:39] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: what were the backports btw?
[23:39] <chrismsnz> hey guys, does anybody here use awesomewm?
[23:39] <jayant> hmmmm.... ok... let me try that..... do you know what command to use? am pretty new to this....
[23:39] <chrismsnz> (with ubuntu)
[23:40] <aeon-ltd> chrismsnz: have done. but not recently
[23:40] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[23:40] <jasonwryan> jayant: ifconfig eth0 up then iwlist eth0 scan
[23:40] <chrismsnz> aeon-ltd: cool - just wondering, did you have any problems with the meta4 key when trying to use it?
[23:40] <jayant> ok....thanks.. let me try it out
[23:40] <chrismsnz> seems to fail for me under ubuntu, but works under arch
[23:40] <aeon-ltd> chrismsnz: don't you mean Mod4?
[23:40] <alket> I want to try Firefox 4 , does it affect the default Firefox that comes with ubuntu ?
[23:41] <chrismsnz> yes, i mean mod4
[23:41] <geirha> underdev: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[23:41] <chrismsnz> mod4 = meta :P
[23:41] <aeon-ltd> chrismsnz: no it worked fine, it might just be your keyboard language layout
[23:41] <jayant> it says "interface doesn't support scanning"
[23:41] <indyfan> Can someone help me with the UCK?
[23:41] <chrismsnz> aeon-ltd: right... same machine tho, will keep hacking on it
[23:42] <jasonwryan> jayant: OK - rule that out. You are using sudo for these commands?
[23:42] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: i'll be back in a bit need to kill X. plus switch pc
[23:42] <jayant> yeah...
[23:42] <sixofour> ubuntu won't let me launch a desktop icon...it says if you don't know the source of this file it may be unsafe, the only option is to cancel....what?
[23:42] <fluvvell> shurathing, I seem to recall some tricks to get audio going again when mine stopped. something about killing and restarting pulseaudio?
[23:42] <sixofour> i'm not trying to see if its safe, i am trying to leaunch it
[23:43] <jasonwryan> jayant: hardware? What are you using?
[23:43] <shurathing> fluvvell: I'll try anything. I need this netbook up and running by tomorrow late
[23:43] <jayant> broadcom 802.11 b/g
[23:43] <fluvvell> shurathing, or maybe reinstalling the pulseaudio programs. They need to re-find the right hardware
[23:43] <C-Otto> hi there
[23:43] <Venker> hi there
[23:43] <alkisg> sixofour: you need to make it executable, right click on it and make it executable from the properties menu
[23:43] <indyfan> sixofour: you have to open the properties and set it to executable
[23:44] <fluvvell> shurathing, google the forums about pulseaudio and 10.04, I'll troll back through my logs to see if its still there
[23:44] <indyfan> Huh too late :D
[23:44] <alkisg> Heh :)
[23:44] <C-Otto> i am an administrator of an ubuntu mirror, providing files with up to 10 GBit/sec - I'd like to know if there is some geoip based (or something other) automated download distribution when you use 'apt-get install'?
[23:44] <shurathing> fluvvell: awesome Thanks
[23:44] <C-Otto> or, if not, do users have to pick their mirror by hand?
[23:44] <jayant> it was working alright for a while.... when i first connected it downloaded the linux broadcom drivers.. and then i removed the ndiswrapper packages cause i thought i wouldn't need them again
[23:45] <jasonwryan> jayant: lsmod | grep wl
[23:45] <linxeh> C-Otto: it does pick a source, but I dont know the algorithm - I guess based on the location you give for time settings, might be geoip though
[23:45] <alkisg> C-Otto: I think that the sources.list is generated by the installer based on the users language selection, e.g. I have gr.archive.ubuntu.com which maps to some greek server
[23:45] <jayant> nothing....
[23:45] <prakriti> Does anybody know the difference between "Eject" and "Safely remove drive" ?
[23:45] <Venker> I have created manually a Download directory in my $HOME, the main problem is how to configure Gnome to make this directory used as default download such as bluetooth file transfer... how could I do it? thanks in advance
[23:46] <Venker> I'm using Ubuntu 10.4
[23:46] <jasonwryan> jayant: you need the broadcom drivers, is my guess...
[23:46] <jayant> hmmm...ok... can i find them again in the package manager?
[23:46] <jasonwryan> jayant: System > Admin > Hardware drivers - see what you get
[23:47] <C-Otto> ok, thanks
[23:47] <froschi> prakriti: is this a window question? 'eject' is for removable media.... 'remove drive' is for pluggable devices, like harddrives.... usb memory sticks may be both or nothin...
[23:47] <neekers> i'm trying to see what apache modules are installed, i tried httpd -l but got command not found...
[23:48] <jayant> it says i already have installed broadcom STA linux driver source
[23:48] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: this might help (3rd post down) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/no-sound-ubuntu-10-04-hp-mini-110-a-798751/
[23:48] <jasonwryan> jayant: is it active (green light)?
[23:49] <Seveas> neekers, ls /etc/apache2/mods.available
[23:49] <froschi> prakriti: (where 'removable media' originally meant floppy disk, zip drive.... nowadays, as i said, usb sticks may be one or the other)
[23:49] <jayant> yeah.. i just removed it.. and it activating it again now...
[23:49] <rww> Venker: There may be an easier way to do it, but I generally just edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[23:49] <jasonwryan> jayant: you may need to reboot after that
[23:49] <Seveas> neekers, als, ls /usr/lib/apache2/modules
[23:50] <Venker> ok, thanks rww, I'll check that
[23:50] <jayant> ok... let me do it after installing it
[23:50] <jasonwryan> jayant: good luck!
[23:50] <jayant> thanks.. :)
[23:50] <jayant> just one more thing
[23:50] <daishadar> can someone explain to me- if i install a mainline kernel, what will be different?  what exactly does ubuntu change in their kernels?
[23:50] <jayant> thers also broadcom b43 wireless driver
[23:51] <jayant> do i need to activate that as well?
[23:51] <Venker> rww: edit file and restart nautilus?
[23:51] <underdev> geirha: thank you!
[23:51] <shurathing> fluvvell: reinstalled pulseaudio... no good
[23:51] <jasonwryan> jayant: depends on your card (I don't use broadcom): just google to check...
[23:51] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: Got to that post before I came here, that file is read only and I don't know how to change permissions.
[23:51] <indyfan> How can I see if apache is running?
[23:51] <jayant> ok.. sure.. thanks again..
[23:51] <Seveas> daishadar, grab the source pacakge and look in the debian/patches/ directory :)
[23:52] <Seveas> indyfan, /etc/init.d/apache2 status
[23:52] <aeon-ltd> shurathing:  you need to edit it with sudo/gksudo
[23:52] <jayant> ok.. now it says wireless in the connection but "device not ready"
[23:52] <indyfan> Thanks :)
[23:52] <fluvvell> shurathing, in my logs i remove my .pulse folder in my home directory.
[23:52] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: ty.. will try that
[23:52] <fluvvell> shurathing, and .pulsecookie
[23:52] <shurathing> fluvvell: I'll try that next... ty
[23:52] <jasonwryan> jayant: and ifconfig shows?
[23:53] <fluvvell> shurathing, glad if it helps, its a pain when sound stops working
[23:53] <Muscovy> Does anyone know how to install GNOME3 (gnome-shell)?
[23:53] <rww> Venker: I usually log out and back in, but I imagine restarting nautilus would work too
[23:53] <jayant> no wlan0......only eth0 and lo
[23:53] <rww> Muscovy: install the package "gnome-shell" and then run "gnome-shell --replace"
[23:53] <jayant> should i restart once?
[23:53] <diogo_79> 7tq
[23:53] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: sorry... is it sudo/gksudo and the path to the file?
[23:53] <indyfan> Where can I get my phpMyAdmin username and password?
[23:54] <neekers> ok, i've looked at /etc/apache2/mods.available and /usr/lib/apache2/modules and also /etc/apache2/mods.enabled now. the third one is the one that tells me what's actually running?
[23:54] <jasonwryan> jayant: yes - you'll need to reboot
[23:54] <Dezine> Hi, is there a branch of Ubuntu based on enlightenment?
[23:54] <Venker> ok, thanks again rww  :))
[23:54] <jayant> ok... gimme a sec...thanks.. :)
[23:54] <Seveas> Dezine, not an official spinoff but you can simply install e17 on ubuntu
[23:54] <rww> neekers: it's mods-enabled and mods-available, but yes
[23:55] <rww> neekers: you can enable and disable mods with a2enmod and a2dismod
[23:55] <Dezine> Ok, that's what I did Seveas, just looks kinda rough. Will just have to tweak stuff.
[23:55] <Seveas> neekers, correct.
[23:55] <aeon-ltd> shurathing: yes but only one of them
[23:55] <neekers> cool, thanks guys
[23:55] <GrayArea> linuxe
[23:55] <GrayArea> xuline
[23:55] <GrayArea> xaline
[23:56] <rww> GrayArea: something we can help you with?
[23:56] <GrayArea> hey
[23:56] <GrayArea> im trying to find a person i talked to
[23:56] <rww> hi
[23:56] <GrayArea> his name is an anagram of the word "linuxe"
[23:56] <GrayArea> and it starts with "xu"
[23:56] <GrayArea> im doing /whois to try and find the rest
[23:56] <GrayArea> of the word
[23:56] <aeon-ltd> GrayArea:  you might wanna try tab completion
[23:56] <GrayArea> ok
[23:56] <GrayArea> thanks
[23:56] <GrayArea> no
[23:56] <GrayArea> that wont work
[23:57] <Seveas> !enter
[23:57] <FloodBot1> GrayArea: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <GrayArea> he's not in this channel
[23:57] <GrayArea> um ok bye
[23:57] <Seveas> GrayArea, then go play elsewhere instead of spamming
[23:57] <KwikkSilva> ey up
[23:57] <KwikkSilva> anyway i can get a decent resolution in VNC on 10.04 - Tried putting in a new XOrg.conf - but it hosed the server
[23:58] <jayant> heyy.. it works... thanks a lot! :D
[23:58] <Shiba> hmmm.  it works, eh?
[23:59] <jasonwryan> jayant: great to hear! Happy to help...
[23:59] <Shiba> It works!  I finally build something that works!
[23:59] <shurathing> aeon-ltd: sorry, I just don't know the command to change that file... is it sudo /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[23:59] <jayant> thanks again... :) take care...see ya
[23:59] <Shiba> 1.21 jigawatts?!
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> shurathing:  its sudo (you editor of choice) /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[23:59] <etter> hi guys. is there a way of monitoring what another user on a system is doing? what commands are issued & what files are accessed/modified & how? I have root