[02:32] TheMuso: I've just got a report that JACK is busted in PortAudio HEAD [02:33] apparently PortAudio r1522 is the last revision where it's working properly [02:33] so if you haven't already packaged PortAudio up, maybe r1522 is the revision to go with [02:34] asantoni: Thanks, I've it packaged and am testing it, not with jack, but am testing it. Thanks for the heads up. [02:34] No, thank you! [02:34] Maybe this is a good time for me to rail on PortAudio for never making releases *ugh* [02:34] You betcha. [03:09] asantoni: DO you know anybody who is willing to test these packages? I.e to make sure the revision you state from svn does work with jack? [03:09] Or has someone tested it? [04:42] TheMuso: bkgood in #mixxx tested it, but I can make a call for testers on our mailing list and get more testers [04:42] asantoni: Please do. [04:43] asantoni: I can put packages up somewhere if that helps. [04:43] Ok, give me a link and I'll send out an email right away [04:50] Sure, will put them in the ubuntu-audio-dev PPA, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive this is for maverick. Will upload now, and they should be built shortly. [04:53] Great, thanks... email sent [04:59] np === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak [16:54] I installed Ubuntustudio everything was fine, after the updates I couldn't start jack. Audiointerface is a Lexicon Alpha USB Device. Errormessage http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/398701/ [16:54] One of the updates was a kernel [16:54] hey agentsoul [16:54] holstein are u from Germany [16:55] did you try booting in using your old kernel? [16:55] * holstein is from US [16:55] OK because we have some Holsteins here in Germ, too [16:55] yeah, its german [16:56] at the moment I'm reinstalling Ubuntu-Studio to verify the problem [16:56] * holstein has a lexicon omega [16:56] * holstein doesnt use it anymore though [16:56] agentsoul: when you get it going, and updated [16:57] just try booting in with both kernels [16:57] I had one, too but gave it away for an alpha. Omega was to heavy and needed a power source. [16:57] yes I will try [16:57] agentsoul: dont you have to build some kernel modules to use it? [16:58] No, it is supported by ALSA [16:58] AH [16:58] should work then [16:58] YES (should) [16:58] is working fine with Pulse [16:59] interesting [16:59] what was the error? [16:59] I can even open an old project in Adour and listen to it [16:59] OH [16:59] i see it up there [16:59] I posted it above [17:00] it might be this simple [17:00] control open "hw:0" (No such file or directory) [17:00] in Qjack setup [17:00] you might need to specify the actual device [17:00] again [17:00] maybe there was a JACK update in there too [17:02] OK I hope you are still online in maybe 40minutes. I'm reinstalling the whole thing at the moment and I will check the updates-list. [17:02] thanks so far [17:02] if im not, i'll be back soon [17:44] Hello every one! I want to know why Ardour will not start up and behave like a good boy. It gives an error message saying It could not start jack. So i install jack control thingie and it says it cannot connect to the server. This is so tiering, its late in the night and I wana make some quiet tunes (for the night). Thanks for the help, im using Ubuntu 10.04 and i cant wait till the meerkat is out [17:45] OMG! [17:45] hey draperon12 [17:45] only this much people [17:45] hi [17:45] have you used JACK before? [17:46] never and it tears your mind appart [17:46] do you have about 10 minutes? [17:46] umm, this sounds so professional yeah sure [17:47] check out this link [17:47] me too [17:47] http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html [17:47] its screenshots of jack [17:47] so we know we are looking at the same things [17:47] hey agentsoul [17:47] are you sure you arent a bot [17:47] * holstein is not a bot ;) [17:48] Ummm... this is some smart bot [17:48] lol [17:48] draperon12: is this your internal sound card? [17:48] that you want to use? [17:48] yes [17:48] yes [17:48] draperon12: open a terminal and run uname -a [17:49] ok [17:49] you can paste that back here [17:49] it should be just a line or 2 [17:49] Linux linux 2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:27:30 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [17:49] OK [17:50] draperon12: in the terminal [17:50] yeah [17:50] type sudo adduser 'yourusername' audio [17:50] if my user is b0b, i type [17:50] sudo adduser b0b audio [17:51] draperon12: it might say 'user is already a member of the audio group' [17:51] so yourusername = x when x is My login username [17:51] yeah, whatever user your logged in as [17:52] when you start the terminal it should say [17:52] user@whatever [17:52] oh [17:52] b0b@machinex [17:52] I have to put the local name to [17:53] you can do this in the GUI to if you prefer [17:53] i just forget how [17:53] ok [17:53] now [17:53] system - administraion - users and groups [17:53] uhuh [17:53] then [17:54] draperon12: so your user is added [17:54] OK [17:54] then open 'jack control' [17:54] ok [17:54] you should see http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html [17:54] screenshot 1 [17:54] draperon12: your going to click on 'setup' [17:55] k [17:55] and then you should see screenshot 2 [17:55] ok [17:55] draperon12: theres a checkbox on the left [17:55] for 'realtime' [17:55] yeah [17:55] UN-check that if its checked [17:55] ok [17:55] sample rate, in the middle there [17:56] you probably want 441000 [17:56] yep [17:56] set frames/perios [17:56] OOPS [17:56] set frames/period to 512 [17:56] ??? [17:56] ok [17:56] and periods/buffer to 3 [17:57] down the the bottom right [17:57] what is the 'latency' ? [17:57] ? [17:57] whihc one [17:57] output or input [17:57] the very bottom right [17:57] on the screenshot [17:57] it says 5.8msec [17:58] 34.5 [17:58] OK [17:58] 34.8 [17:58] that'll probably work for now [17:58] draperon12: say OK [17:58] and close that [17:58] ok [17:58] and you'll be looking at screenshot 1 again [17:58] yes [17:58] hit the 'start' button [17:59] pure genius [17:59] Thanks bro [17:59] no errors? [17:59] cool [17:59] yep [17:59] draperon12: you can tweak if you want [17:59] Lemmy see if ardour would work [17:59] there are a couple of other kernels [17:59] the preemt on and the realtime one [17:59] one* [18:00] what is realtime [18:00] realtime just gets higher priority to audio [18:00] bascially [18:00] ok [18:00] draperon12: you see that 'xrun' count? [18:00] in the screenshot [18:00] where [18:01] they show up in red [18:01] in screenshot1 [18:01] its 1 (2) [18:01] above 'rolling' [18:01] yes [18:01] xruns are bad [18:01] and that is one way to deal with it [18:01] a more appropriate kernel [18:01] ok [18:01] AND [18:02] tweaking those settings [18:02] frames/period [18:02] i havent updated for a long time [18:02] and periods/buffer [18:02] draperon12: thats OK [18:02] draperon12: if your interested in tweaking more [18:02] check out [18:02] !grub2 [18:02] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [18:02] ok [18:03] that will tell you how to make GRUB show you the kernels and you can choose one [18:03] at boot [18:03] ubottu: Is holstein a bot? [18:03] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:03] ok [18:03] also http://www.opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ and #opensourcemusicians [18:04] draperon12: in the main window, screenshot 1 [18:04] thanks man [18:04] i know [18:04] you should hit the 'connect button' [18:04] and you'll be able to 'route' [18:05] 8th screenshot [18:05] you can route your physical sound card intputs to tracks you create in ardour [18:05] or route to whatever software and/or hardware [18:06] draperon12: happy recording :) [18:06] thanks [18:06] agentsoul: did you get sorted out? [18:06] there is still silence in my room [18:06] drag [18:06] Bye all [18:06] draperon12: laterx [18:07] I just followed your instructions you gave draperon12 [18:07] agentsoul: OH yeah [18:07] for you [18:07] And by the way the problem showed up from the very beginning [18:07] we need to find your sound card [18:07] yeep [18:07] agentsoul: what kernel are you using? [18:08] uname -a [18:08] Pulseaudio is recognizing is correctly [18:08] 24 [18:08] generic [18:08] OK [18:08] so make sure that 'realtime' checkbox is UNchecked [18:08] and make sure your user is a memeber of the audio group [18:08] check, is unchecked [18:09] then, under setup [18:09] latency is 34.8 [18:09] frames 512 [18:09] make sure you are using 'alsa' driver [18:09] should be that by default [18:09] agentsoul: you see the 'interface' setting [18:10] http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html [18:10] in the second screenshot [18:10] it says 'interface' [18:10] then there is a drop down menu [18:10] THEN [18:10] a button with a > on it [18:11] that button with the > on it is where i find my USB hardware listed [18:11] *usually* [18:11] :-) [18:11] there are 2 [18:11] 2 of your lexicons? [18:11] hw:2 Lexicon alpha and hw:2,0 USB Audio [18:11] JACK might see it as 2 seperate cards [18:11] you'll have to just try them both though [18:12] seem to work [18:12] w00t :) [18:12] at least no error after pressing start [18:12] yeah, thats a good sign [18:12] you'll have to plug things in, and route them out [18:12] and make sure everything is working [18:12] properly [18:13] agentsoul: is that 2 channel 4? [18:13] the omega has 4 [18:13] just 2 mono [18:13] cool [18:14] but when I start arbour i says "missing data for audio-setup of samplerate" (free translation) [18:15] ardour not arbour [18:15] hmmm [18:15] OH [18:15] maybe ardour is starting with a samplerate the card is not capable of [18:16] you might have to get into that other checkbox [18:16] 'force 16bit' [18:16] im not sure about that hardware [18:16] i would try and set ardour up to track at 16bit 44.1 [18:17] and see if it stops complaining [18:17] ALSO [18:17] over in #ardour [18:17] those guys are 'on it' [18:17] las is always in there it seems [18:18] thats the main guy, paul davis = las [18:18] OK I will chekc in ardour. Thanks so far [18:18] :) [18:19] But Ardour is playing back without any problems, I just created a project and added a wav-file. Plays perfect [18:20] im not sure that that error is a big deal [18:20] will ask in ardour and check google first [18:20] as they say, 'if it aint broke'... [18:26] Hi again [18:27] I have another problem now, my mic is not being picked up by ardour [18:27] hey draperon12 :) [18:27] SO [18:28] youve made a 'new mono track' in ardour [18:28] ... [18:28] no [18:28] stero [18:28] OK [18:28] like in audacity [18:28] you can do that too [18:28] is it a stereo mic? [18:29] Umm actualy ita a webcam that is surounded by a mic [18:29] horrible quality if your wondering [18:29] no worries [18:29] if its not stereo, you dont need to make a stereo track [18:29] thats all [18:29] but i could in audacity [18:30] draperon12: is this a USB webcam? [18:30] no jack [18:30] OK [18:30] plugs right into the red hole [18:30] draperon12: in a terminal [18:30] k [18:30] run alsamixer [18:31] yep [18:31] press F5 [18:31] i see it [18:31] and just look around in there [18:31] and make sure the levels look 'normal' [18:31] for what [18:31] not all the way down or whatever [18:31] headphones are turnd to the red area [18:31] draperon12: sometimes these can be mis-labeled too [18:32] draperon12: press F4 [18:32] that should be all the 'inputs' [18:32] wait [18:32] front mic is muted [18:32] front mi [18:32] that might be the deal [18:33] draperon12: and you need to 'route' it in JACK [18:33] but there are 3 of them, which one [18:33] route the mic to the new track [18:33] draperon12: you'll have to experiment to be sure which is which [18:33] i would just turn all of them up a bit [18:33] about half way [18:33] or less, at first [18:34] ok [18:34] then go back to JACK [18:34] 68 [18:34] k [18:34] and hit 'connections' [18:34] ok [18:34] under the 'audio' tab [18:34] on the left side [18:34] uhuh [18:34] you should see something like 'alsa in' [18:35] or capture [18:35] no [18:35] something with a little '+' sign [18:35] hit the little plus sign [18:35] i see ardour and system [18:35] yeah, 'system' is the one [18:35] ok [18:36] they all get different labels [18:36] playback1 and playback 2 [18:36] yup [18:36] so those are your physical inputs [18:36] ok [18:36] you need to route those to your new stereo track [18:36] i have 2? [18:36] hit the + sign over on the right [18:36] ok [18:36] the one by 'ardour' [18:36] ok [18:37] and you'll see something like track 1 in 1 and track 1 in 2 [18:37] those are the inputs for your track [18:37] Audio 1/out 1 [18:37] Audio 1/out 2 [18:37] just drag a line between capture_1 and audio_1/in_1 [18:38] capture 1? [18:38] yeah [18:38] there should be 2 panels [18:38] in 'connections' [18:38] oh [18:38] my bad you said left pannel [18:38] i thought right [18:39] yes [18:39] the one on the right is the recieving ones [18:39] and the one on the left are the sending ones [18:39] audio 1/in 1 [18:39] YEAH [18:39] thats the one [18:39] ok [18:39] audio 1/in 1 and in 2 [18:39] now what [18:39] yes [18:40] make those connect to the capture jacks on the left side [18:40] both of them [18:40] rather, make sure they are connected [18:40] they might already be connected [18:40] they are [18:40] OK [18:40] SO [18:40] go back to ardrou [18:40] ardour* [18:40] and 'arm' the new stereo track [18:41] arm = hit the record button on the track [18:41] then you should see the level move when you tap on the mic [18:41] 1 sec [18:41] ok [18:41] going back to ardour [18:42] ok [18:42] you got signal? [18:42] the meter is moving? [18:42] it can now creat a track with sound [18:43] but not my voice [18:43] theres some weird noise [18:43] yeah, i bet [18:43] is it a buzz? [18:43] or hum? [18:43] right now [18:43] im hearing a fuzzy noise from my headset [18:43] verry silet [18:44] silent* [18:44] hmmm [18:44] try recording it [18:44] and playing it back [18:44] i think i need to work on the connect area on jk controll [18:45] draperon12: theres 'patchage' too [18:45] some folks prefer it [18:45] it another way of routing in JACK [18:45] umm [18:45] if you find the connect area 'clunky' [18:45] when i play the area where there is no sound the noise stops [18:46] but when it reaches the area the noise starts [18:46]