[02:32] <asantoni> TheMuso: I've just got a report that JACK is busted in PortAudio HEAD
[02:33] <asantoni> apparently PortAudio r1522 is the last revision where it's working properly
[02:33] <asantoni> so if you haven't already packaged PortAudio up, maybe r1522 is the revision to go with
[02:34] <TheMuso> asantoni: Thanks, I've it packaged and am testing it, not with jack, but am testing it. Thanks for the heads up.
[02:34] <asantoni> No, thank you!
[02:34] <asantoni> Maybe this is a good time for me to rail on PortAudio for never making releases *ugh*
[02:34] <TheMuso> You betcha.
[03:09] <TheMuso> asantoni: DO you know anybody who is willing to test these packages? I.e to make sure the revision you state from svn does work with jack?
[03:09] <TheMuso> Or has someone tested it?
[04:42] <asantoni> TheMuso: bkgood in #mixxx tested it, but I can make a call for testers on our mailing list and get more testers
[04:42] <TheMuso> asantoni: Please do.
[04:43] <TheMuso> asantoni: I can put packages up somewhere if that helps.
[04:43] <asantoni> Ok, give me a link and I'll send out an email right away
[04:50] <TheMuso> Sure, will put them in the ubuntu-audio-dev PPA, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive this is for maverick. Will upload now, and they should be built shortly.
[04:53] <asantoni> Great, thanks... email sent
[04:59] <TheMuso> np
[16:54] <agentsoul> I installed Ubuntustudio everything was fine, after the updates I couldn't start jack. Audiointerface is a Lexicon Alpha USB Device. Errormessage http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/398701/
[16:54] <agentsoul> One of the updates was a kernel
[16:54] <holstein> hey agentsoul
[16:54] <agentsoul> holstein are u from Germany
[16:55] <holstein> did you try booting in using your old kernel?
[16:55]  * holstein is from US
[16:55] <agentsoul> OK because we have some Holsteins here in Germ, too
[16:55] <holstein> yeah, its german
[16:56] <agentsoul> at the moment I'm reinstalling Ubuntu-Studio to verify the problem
[16:56]  * holstein has a lexicon omega
[16:56]  * holstein doesnt use it anymore though
[16:56] <holstein> agentsoul: when you get it going, and updated
[16:57] <holstein> just try booting in with both kernels
[16:57] <agentsoul> I had one, too but gave it away for an alpha. Omega was to heavy and needed a power source.
[16:57] <agentsoul> yes I will try
[16:57] <holstein> agentsoul: dont you have to build some kernel modules to use it?
[16:58] <agentsoul> No, it is supported by ALSA
[16:58] <holstein> AH
[16:58] <holstein> should work then
[16:58] <agentsoul> YES (should)
[16:58] <agentsoul> is working fine with Pulse
[16:59] <holstein> interesting
[16:59] <holstein> what was the error?
[16:59] <agentsoul> I can even open an old project in Adour and listen to it
[16:59] <holstein> OH
[16:59] <holstein> i see it up there
[16:59] <agentsoul> I posted it above
[17:00] <holstein> it might be this simple
[17:00] <holstein> control open "hw:0" (No such file or directory)
[17:00] <holstein> in Qjack setup
[17:00] <holstein> you might need to specify the actual device
[17:00] <holstein> again
[17:00] <holstein> maybe there was a JACK update in there too
[17:02] <agentsoul> OK I hope you are still online in maybe 40minutes. I'm reinstalling the whole thing at the moment and I will check the updates-list.
[17:02] <agentsoul> thanks so far
[17:02] <holstein> if im not, i'll be back soon
[17:44] <draperon12> Hello every one! I want to know why Ardour will not start up and behave like a good boy. It gives an error message saying It could not start jack. So i install jack control thingie and it says it cannot connect to the server. This is so tiering, its late in the night and I wana make some quiet tunes (for the night). Thanks for the help, im using Ubuntu 10.04 and i cant wait till the meerkat is out
[17:45] <draperon12> OMG!
[17:45] <holstein> hey draperon12
[17:45] <draperon12> only this much people
[17:45] <draperon12> hi
[17:45] <holstein> have you used JACK before?
[17:46] <draperon12> never and it tears your mind appart
[17:46] <holstein> do you have about 10 minutes?
[17:46] <draperon12> umm, this sounds so professional yeah sure
[17:47] <holstein> check out this link
[17:47] <agentsoul> me too
[17:47] <holstein> http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html
[17:47] <holstein> its screenshots of jack
[17:47] <holstein> so we know we are looking at the same things
[17:47] <holstein> hey agentsoul
[17:47] <draperon12> are you sure you arent a bot
[17:47]  * holstein is not a bot ;)
[17:48] <draperon12> Ummm... this is some smart bot
[17:48] <holstein> lol
[17:48] <holstein> draperon12: is this your internal sound card?
[17:48] <holstein> that you want to use?
[17:48] <draperon12> yes
[17:48] <draperon12> yes
[17:48] <holstein> draperon12: open a terminal and run uname -a
[17:49] <draperon12> ok
[17:49] <holstein> you can paste that back here
[17:49] <holstein> it should be just a line or 2
[17:49] <draperon12> Linux linux 2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:27:30 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:49] <holstein> OK
[17:50] <holstein> draperon12: in the terminal
[17:50] <draperon12> yeah
[17:50] <holstein> type sudo adduser 'yourusername' audio
[17:50] <holstein> if my user is b0b, i type
[17:50] <holstein> sudo adduser b0b audio
[17:51] <holstein> draperon12: it might say 'user is already a member of the audio group'
[17:51] <draperon12> so yourusername = x when x is My login username
[17:51] <holstein> yeah, whatever user your logged in as
[17:52] <holstein> when you start the terminal it should say
[17:52] <holstein> user@whatever
[17:52] <draperon12> oh
[17:52] <holstein> b0b@machinex
[17:52] <draperon12> I have to put the local name to
[17:53] <holstein> you can do this in the GUI to if you prefer
[17:53] <holstein> i just forget how
[17:53] <draperon12> ok
[17:53] <draperon12> now
[17:53] <holstein> system - administraion - users and groups
[17:53] <draperon12> uhuh
[17:53] <draperon12> then
[17:54] <holstein> draperon12: so your user is added
[17:54] <holstein> OK
[17:54] <holstein> then open 'jack control'
[17:54] <draperon12> ok
[17:54] <holstein> you should see http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html
[17:54] <holstein> screenshot 1
[17:54] <holstein> draperon12: your going to click on 'setup'
[17:55] <draperon12> k
[17:55] <holstein> and then you should see screenshot 2
[17:55] <draperon12> ok
[17:55] <holstein> draperon12: theres a checkbox on the left
[17:55] <holstein> for 'realtime'
[17:55] <draperon12> yeah
[17:55] <holstein> UN-check that if its checked
[17:55] <draperon12> ok
[17:55] <holstein> sample rate, in the middle there
[17:56] <holstein> you probably want 441000
[17:56] <draperon12> yep
[17:56] <holstein> set frames/perios
[17:56] <holstein> OOPS
[17:56] <holstein> set frames/period to 512
[17:56] <draperon12> ???
[17:56] <draperon12> ok
[17:56] <holstein> and periods/buffer to 3
[17:57] <holstein> down the the bottom right
[17:57] <holstein> what is the 'latency' ?
[17:57] <draperon12> ?
[17:57] <draperon12> whihc one
[17:57] <draperon12> output or input
[17:57] <holstein> the very bottom right
[17:57] <holstein> on the screenshot
[17:57] <holstein> it says 5.8msec
[17:58] <draperon12> 34.5
[17:58] <holstein> OK
[17:58] <draperon12> 34.8
[17:58] <holstein> that'll probably work for now
[17:58] <holstein> draperon12: say OK
[17:58] <holstein> and close that
[17:58] <draperon12> ok
[17:58] <holstein> and you'll be looking at screenshot 1 again
[17:58] <draperon12> yes
[17:58] <holstein> hit the 'start' button
[17:59] <draperon12> pure genius
[17:59] <draperon12> Thanks bro
[17:59] <holstein> no errors?
[17:59] <holstein> cool
[17:59] <draperon12> yep
[17:59] <holstein> draperon12: you can tweak if you want
[17:59] <draperon12> Lemmy see if ardour would work
[17:59] <holstein> there are a couple of other kernels
[17:59] <holstein> the preemt on and the realtime one
[17:59] <holstein>              one*
[18:00] <draperon12> what is realtime
[18:00] <holstein> realtime just gets higher priority to audio
[18:00] <holstein> bascially
[18:00] <draperon12> ok
[18:00] <holstein> draperon12: you see that 'xrun' count?
[18:00] <holstein> in the screenshot
[18:00] <draperon12> where
[18:01] <holstein> they show up in red
[18:01] <holstein> in screenshot1
[18:01] <holstein> its 1 (2)
[18:01] <holstein> above 'rolling'
[18:01] <draperon12> yes
[18:01] <holstein> xruns are bad
[18:01] <holstein> and that is one way to deal with it
[18:01] <holstein> a more appropriate kernel
[18:01] <draperon12> ok
[18:01] <holstein> AND
[18:02] <holstein> tweaking those settings
[18:02] <holstein> frames/period
[18:02] <draperon12> i havent updated for a long time
[18:02] <holstein> and periods/buffer
[18:02] <holstein> draperon12: thats OK
[18:02] <holstein> draperon12: if your interested in tweaking more
[18:02] <holstein> check out
[18:02] <holstein> !grub2
[18:02] <draperon12> ok
[18:03] <holstein> that will tell you how to make GRUB show you the kernels and you can choose one
[18:03] <holstein> at boot
[18:03] <draperon12> ubottu: Is holstein a bot?
[18:03] <draperon12> ok
[18:03] <holstein> also http://www.opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ and #opensourcemusicians
[18:04] <holstein> draperon12: in the main window, screenshot 1
[18:04] <draperon12> thanks man
[18:04] <draperon12> i know
[18:04] <holstein> you should hit the 'connect button'
[18:04] <holstein> and you'll be able to 'route'
[18:05] <holstein> 8th screenshot
[18:05] <holstein> you can route your physical sound card intputs to tracks you create in ardour
[18:05] <holstein> or route to whatever software and/or hardware
[18:06] <holstein> draperon12: happy recording :)
[18:06] <draperon12> thanks
[18:06] <holstein> agentsoul: did you get sorted out?
[18:06] <agentsoul> there is still silence in my room
[18:06] <holstein> drag
[18:06] <draperon12> Bye all
[18:06] <holstein> draperon12: laterx
[18:07] <agentsoul> I just followed your instructions you gave draperon12
[18:07] <holstein> agentsoul: OH yeah
[18:07] <holstein> for you
[18:07] <agentsoul> And by the way the problem showed up from the very beginning
[18:07] <holstein> we need to find your sound card
[18:07] <agentsoul> yeep
[18:07] <holstein> agentsoul: what kernel are you using?
[18:08] <holstein> uname -a
[18:08] <agentsoul> Pulseaudio is recognizing is correctly
[18:08] <agentsoul> 24
[18:08] <agentsoul> generic
[18:08] <holstein> OK
[18:08] <holstein> so make sure that 'realtime' checkbox is UNchecked
[18:08] <holstein> and make sure your user is a memeber of the audio group
[18:08] <agentsoul> check, is unchecked
[18:09] <holstein> then, under setup
[18:09] <agentsoul> latency is 34.8
[18:09] <agentsoul> frames 512
[18:09] <holstein> make sure you are using 'alsa' driver
[18:09] <holstein> should be that by default
[18:09] <holstein> agentsoul: you see the 'interface' setting
[18:10] <holstein> http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html
[18:10] <holstein> in the second screenshot
[18:10] <holstein> it says 'interface'
[18:10] <holstein> then there is a drop down menu
[18:10] <holstein> THEN
[18:10] <holstein> a button with a > on it
[18:11] <holstein> that button with the > on it is where i find my USB hardware listed
[18:11] <holstein> *usually*
[18:11] <agentsoul> :-)
[18:11] <agentsoul> there are 2
[18:11] <holstein> 2 of your lexicons?
[18:11] <agentsoul> hw:2 Lexicon alpha and hw:2,0 USB Audio
[18:11] <holstein> JACK might see it as 2 seperate cards
[18:11] <holstein> you'll have to just try them both though
[18:12] <agentsoul> seem to work
[18:12] <holstein> w00t :)
[18:12] <agentsoul> at least no error after pressing start
[18:12] <holstein> yeah, thats a good sign
[18:12] <holstein> you'll have to plug things in, and route them out
[18:12] <holstein> and make sure everything is working
[18:12] <holstein> properly
[18:13] <holstein> agentsoul: is that 2 channel 4?
[18:13] <holstein> the omega has 4
[18:13] <agentsoul> just 2 mono
[18:13] <holstein> cool
[18:14] <agentsoul> but when I start arbour i says "missing data for audio-setup of samplerate" (free translation)
[18:15] <agentsoul> ardour not arbour
[18:15] <holstein> hmmm
[18:15] <holstein> OH
[18:15] <holstein> maybe ardour is starting with a samplerate the card is not capable of
[18:16] <holstein> you might have to get into that other checkbox
[18:16] <holstein> 'force 16bit'
[18:16] <holstein> im not sure about that hardware
[18:16] <holstein> i would try and set ardour up to track at 16bit 44.1
[18:17] <holstein> and see if it stops complaining
[18:17] <holstein> ALSO
[18:17] <holstein> over in #ardour
[18:17] <holstein> those guys are 'on it'
[18:17] <holstein> las is always in there it seems
[18:18] <holstein> thats the main guy, paul davis = las
[18:18] <agentsoul> OK I will chekc in ardour. Thanks so far
[18:18] <holstein> :)
[18:19] <agentsoul> But Ardour is playing back without any problems, I just created a project and added a wav-file. Plays perfect
[18:20] <holstein> im not sure that that error is a big deal
[18:20] <agentsoul> will ask in ardour and check google first
[18:20] <holstein> as they say, 'if it aint broke'...
[18:26] <draperon12> Hi again
[18:27] <draperon12> I have another problem now, my mic is not being picked up by ardour
[18:27] <holstein> hey draperon12 :)
[18:27] <holstein> SO
[18:28] <holstein> youve made a 'new mono track' in ardour
[18:28] <draperon12> ...
[18:28] <draperon12> no
[18:28] <draperon12> stero
[18:28] <holstein> OK
[18:28] <draperon12> like in audacity
[18:28] <holstein> you can do that too
[18:28] <holstein> is it a stereo mic?
[18:29] <draperon12> Umm actualy ita a webcam that is surounded by a mic
[18:29] <draperon12> horrible quality if your wondering
[18:29] <holstein> no worries
[18:29] <holstein> if its not stereo, you dont need to make a stereo track
[18:29] <holstein> thats all
[18:29] <draperon12> but i could in audacity
[18:30] <holstein> draperon12: is this a USB webcam?
[18:30] <draperon12> no jack
[18:30] <holstein> OK
[18:30] <draperon12> plugs right into the red hole
[18:30] <holstein> draperon12: in a terminal
[18:30] <draperon12> k
[18:30] <holstein> run alsamixer
[18:31] <draperon12> yep
[18:31] <holstein> press F5
[18:31] <draperon12> i see it
[18:31] <holstein> and just look around in there
[18:31] <holstein> and make sure the levels look 'normal'
[18:31] <draperon12> for what
[18:31] <holstein> not all the way down or whatever
[18:31] <draperon12> headphones are turnd to the red area
[18:31] <holstein> draperon12: sometimes these can be mis-labeled too
[18:32] <holstein> draperon12: press F4
[18:32] <holstein> that should be all the 'inputs'
[18:32] <draperon12> wait
[18:32] <draperon12> front mic is muted
[18:32] <draperon12> front mi
[18:32] <holstein> that might be the deal
[18:33] <holstein> draperon12: and you need to 'route' it in JACK
[18:33] <draperon12> but there are 3 of them, which one
[18:33] <holstein> route the mic to the new track
[18:33] <holstein> draperon12: you'll have to experiment to be sure which is which
[18:33] <holstein> i would just turn all of them up a bit
[18:33] <holstein> about half way
[18:33] <holstein> or less, at first
[18:34] <draperon12> ok
[18:34] <holstein> then go back to JACK
[18:34] <draperon12> 68
[18:34] <draperon12> k
[18:34] <holstein> and hit 'connections'
[18:34] <draperon12> ok
[18:34] <holstein> under the 'audio' tab
[18:34] <holstein> on the left side
[18:34] <draperon12> uhuh
[18:34] <holstein> you should see something like 'alsa in'
[18:35] <holstein> or capture
[18:35] <draperon12> no
[18:35] <holstein> something with a little '+' sign
[18:35] <holstein> hit the little plus sign
[18:35] <draperon12> i see ardour and system
[18:35] <holstein> yeah, 'system' is the one
[18:35] <draperon12> ok
[18:36] <holstein> they all get different labels
[18:36] <draperon12> playback1 and playback 2
[18:36] <holstein> yup
[18:36] <holstein> so those are your physical inputs
[18:36] <draperon12> ok
[18:36] <holstein> you need to route those to your new stereo track
[18:36] <draperon12> i have 2?
[18:36] <holstein> hit the + sign over on the right
[18:36] <draperon12> ok
[18:36] <holstein> the one by 'ardour'
[18:36] <draperon12> ok
[18:37] <holstein> and you'll see something like track 1 in 1 and track 1 in 2
[18:37] <holstein> those are the inputs for your track
[18:37] <draperon12> Audio 1/out 1
[18:37] <draperon12> Audio 1/out 2
[18:37] <holstein> just drag a line between capture_1 and audio_1/in_1
[18:38] <draperon12> capture 1?
[18:38] <holstein> yeah
[18:38] <holstein> there should be 2 panels
[18:38] <holstein> in 'connections'
[18:38] <draperon12> oh
[18:38] <draperon12> my bad you said left pannel
[18:38] <draperon12> i thought right
[18:39] <draperon12> yes
[18:39] <holstein> the one on the right is the recieving ones
[18:39] <holstein> and the one on the left are the sending ones
[18:39] <draperon12> audio 1/in 1
[18:39] <holstein> YEAH
[18:39] <holstein> thats the one
[18:39] <draperon12> ok
[18:39] <holstein> audio 1/in 1 and in 2
[18:39] <draperon12> now what
[18:39] <draperon12> yes
[18:40] <holstein> make those connect to the capture jacks on the left side
[18:40] <draperon12> both of them
[18:40] <holstein> rather, make sure they are connected
[18:40] <holstein> they might already be connected
[18:40] <draperon12> they are
[18:40] <holstein> OK
[18:40] <holstein> SO
[18:40] <holstein> go back to ardrou
[18:40] <holstein> ardour*
[18:40] <holstein> and 'arm' the new stereo track
[18:41] <holstein> arm = hit the record button on the track
[18:41] <holstein> then you should see the level move when you tap on the mic
[18:41] <draperon12> 1 sec
[18:41] <draperon12> ok
[18:41] <draperon12> going back to ardour
[18:42] <draperon12> ok
[18:42] <holstein> you got signal?
[18:42] <holstein> the meter is moving?
[18:42] <draperon12> it can now creat a track with sound
[18:43] <draperon12> but not my voice
[18:43] <draperon12> theres some weird noise
[18:43] <holstein> yeah, i bet
[18:43] <holstein> is it a buzz?
[18:43] <holstein> or hum?
[18:43] <draperon12> right now
[18:43] <draperon12> im hearing a fuzzy noise from my headset
[18:43] <draperon12> verry silet
[18:44] <draperon12> silent*
[18:44] <holstein> hmmm
[18:44] <holstein> try recording it
[18:44] <holstein> and playing it back
[18:44] <draperon12> i think i need to work on the connect area on jk controll
[18:45] <holstein> draperon12: theres 'patchage' too
[18:45] <holstein> some folks prefer it
[18:45] <holstein> it another way of routing in JACK
[18:45] <draperon12> umm
[18:45] <holstein> if you find the connect area 'clunky'
[18:45] <draperon12> when i play the area where there is no sound the noise stops
[18:46] <draperon12> but when it reaches the area the noise starts
[18:46] <draperon12> when i stop playback
[18:46] <draperon12> the noise still goes on
[18:47] <holstein> your going to be hearing the silence from ardour
[18:47] <holstein> then when you stop
[18:47] <holstein> you hear what your monitoring
[18:47] <holstein> internal sound cards can be noisy
[18:48] <holstein> but you should be able to match the quality you were getting using audacity
[18:48] <draperon12> 1 sec
[18:48] <draperon12> i connected
[18:48] <agentsoul> holstein: OK easy as 1 2 3: I just deleted .ardour2 with all the configs and now it is working fine. Whatever.
[18:48] <holstein> agentsoul: AH
[18:49] <holstein> interesting
[18:49] <holstein> some strange config file mucking it up then
[18:49] <draperon12> Playback 1 and 2 to audio 1\out 1 and audio 2\out 2
[18:50] <holstein> draperon12: that will route your in's to the out's
[18:50] <holstein> if ardour was closed
[18:50] <draperon12> ??
[18:50] <holstein> you would be able to hear what is coming through the mic
[18:50] <draperon12> leemy close ardour
[18:51] <draperon12> oh
[18:51] <holstein> which is fine
[18:51] <draperon12> when i stopped ardour the noise went
[18:51] <holstein> interesting
[18:51] <draperon12> now
[18:51] <holstein> draperon12: i always double check all the routing
[18:51] <holstein> and in ardour
[18:52] <draperon12> ardour cant monitor my mic
[18:52] <holstein> i hit the button 'auto input'
[18:53] <draperon12> ok
[18:53] <draperon12> its alredy green
[18:53] <holstein> so ardour doesnt monitor my inputs for me
[18:53] <holstein> yeah, i un-green it
[18:53] <holstein> i route my monitoring my self
[18:54] <draperon12> ok
[18:54] <draperon12> un clicked it
[18:54] <holstein> for example
[18:54] <holstein> if im tracking to track one
[18:54] <holstein> i route to the track 1's in
[18:54] <holstein> and to my sound cards outputs
[18:54] <holstein> then i hear it
[18:54] <holstein> and ardour gets it
[18:55] <holstein> but ardour doesnt need to route it anywhere else
[18:55] <holstein> theres a bunch of ardour outputs
[18:55] <draperon12> hey can we do VNC
[18:55] <holstein> and i like that they are all seperate
[18:55] <holstein> the click is seperate
[18:56] <holstein> if you want to route that our to something effect wise
[18:56] <holstein> OR have an effect on the track while tracking that doesnt go to tape
[18:56] <holstein> its convienient
[18:56] <holstein> BUT fiddly at first
[18:56] <holstein> draperon12: you mean screen sharing?
[18:56] <draperon12> yes
[18:56] <holstein> if you have it set up on your end
[18:56] <holstein> i should do that though
[18:56] <draperon12> yes
[18:56] <draperon12> I can
[18:57] <holstein> so i could do live tutorials
[18:57] <holstein> thats something for the to-do list :)
[18:57] <holstein> great idea
[18:58] <draperon12> did you get it
[19:32] <agentsoul> thanks holstein I will start to play around now
[20:19] <agentsoul> is there an easy way to get ardour higher than 2.8.6 e.g. 2.8.11 Till 2.8.9 it is not possible to mute single tracks!!! You can't work with that.
[20:22] <holstein> agentsoul: theres a patch coming
[20:22] <holstein> they thought it was fixed
[20:22] <holstein> BUT you got a couple of options
[20:22] <holstein> you can build ardour from source
[20:22] <holstein> you can look around for a .deb for a new version
[20:22] <holstein> or a PPA with a more up-to-date verion in it
[20:23] <holstein> heres a PPA
[20:23] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/lucid
[20:23] <holstein> all kinds of newer packages in there
[20:24] <agentsoul> thanks I really don't want to built it myself
[20:24] <holstein> falktx is the guy that makes http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
[20:25] <agentsoul> the .deb had some problems with dependences
[20:25] <holstein> i was going to poke around in the kxstudio iso and see if i could find the more upto date .deb for ardour
[20:25] <agentsoul> and I don't want to mess my system up
[20:25] <holstein> agentsoul: which deb did you try?
[20:26] <holstein> i havnet messed around with it much since my last install
[20:26] <agentsoul> ardour-i686_2.8.11-1_i386.deb and ardour-i686_2.8.9-1_i386.deb
[20:26] <holstein> but i was just un-routing the tracks in Qjack to mute ;)
[20:26] <agentsoul> both from debian
[20:26] <holstein> hmmm
[20:27] <holstein> a lot of dependancies?
[20:27] <holstein> if you add falk's PPA
[20:27] <agentsoul> but they need libjack0 (>= 0.118.0)
[20:27] <holstein> all the dependancies will be resolved
[20:27] <agentsoul> but in my opinion it is installed
[20:27] <holstein> but, its challenging to un-do this if you have breakage
[20:27] <agentsoul> yep, a ppa was what I was looking for
[20:28] <holstein> agentsoul: thats the one to use
[20:28] <holstein> he keeps it up to date
[20:28] <holstein> and he's on the IRC often
[20:29] <holstein> he's got the pulse to JACK package working without the realtime kernel
[20:29] <holstein> AFAIK
[20:29] <agentsoul> kxstudio looks a bit like ubuntu-Studio in KDE
[20:29] <agentsoul> on first sight
[20:29] <holstein> yeah, thats kinda what it is
[20:29] <holstein> but he's really customized quite a few things
[20:29] <holstein> its a great project
[20:30] <holstein> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=15&Itemid=11
[20:30]  * holstein is on the left there :)
[20:30] <holstein> i dont have it installed on anything right now though
[20:40] <agentsoul> thx again I'll be back soon.
[20:40] <holstein> :)
[21:15] <helo> i am unable to save my patchbay connections in qjackctl; the button is always dim
[21:15] <holstein> hey helo
[21:16] <holstein> have you tried using 'patchage' ?
[21:16] <helo> nope
[21:16]  * holstein only uses the 'connections' part of Qjack
[21:16] <holstein> ive never gotten into using the patchbay
[21:16] <holstein> helo: ask over at #opensourcemusicians
[21:17] <helo> same here... i didn't know it was possible to save connections at all until yesterday :)
[21:17] <holstein> someone there might have more experience with that part of Qjack, if patchage doesnt provide what you need