[00:09] <xubuntu165> hello
[00:45] <Sappys> hello, what is the best php editor on xubuntu (bluefish and jedit - not for me)?
[03:09] <ephraim> can someone help me with a pcmcia card?
[03:10] <ephraim> rather a pcmcia card reader. I want to know how I can view it using the command line
[03:11] <ephraim> hi, how can I view a pcmcia card reader using the command line?
[04:23] <ryry46d9> is this the question room?
[08:13] <nikolam> hm, how about having OO.org templates in thunar, again?
[08:14] <nikolam> like, right lick, new doument and not opening first writer and then painfully navigate to save to the dir.
[08:18] <well_laid_lawn> you can add that in ~/.config/Thunar/uca.xml if you want
[08:19] <well_laid_lawn> nikolam: ^^
[08:19] <well_laid_lawn> adds an option to the right click menu
[08:20] <nikolam> hm.
[08:21] <nikolam> packages with uca.xml are thunar-data and xubuntu-default settings. In /etc/xdg/Thunar/uca.xml and /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/Thunar/uca.xml
[08:23] <well_laid_lawn> you don't already  have a ~/.config/Thunar/uca.xml file?
[08:24] <nikolam> Nope.
[08:24] <nikolam> lucid/10.04 lts 64bit here
[08:24] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu with Thunar though?
[08:25] <nikolam> aha. yes
[08:25] <well_laid_lawn> I would copy /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/Thunar/uca.xml to ~/.config/Thunar/uca.xml
[08:26] <well_laid_lawn> and hack away :]
[08:27] <nikolam> there must be something about that on xfce.org or something
[08:28] <nikolam> By the way.. every time I start command from command line (starting some gtk app) I get some crazy warning about murrina storm cloud theme etc.
[08:28] <nikolam> /usr/share/themes/MurrinaStormCloud/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:53: Murrine configuration option "scrollbar_color" is no longer supported and will be ignored.
[08:28] <Sysi> not critical
[08:29] <nikolam> I know. but looks annoying. suppose it might be fixed by editing that theme
[08:29] <well_laid_lawn> just an older theme is all - there must have been a gtk update that removed that as an option
[08:31] <knome> nikolam, just remove any lines containing scrollbar_color in the gtkrc file
[08:31] <knome> nikolam, = fix
[08:31] <nikolam> ok knome thanks :P
[08:32] <knome> np
[09:43] <Cael> i got an odd issue, out of the box i lose All video display once the 10.04 boots to live or install i have an Nvidia Geforce fx 5200 and an LG W2361V-PF monitor its native resolution is 1920x1080 but yet it still goes out of range. Any idea Why and how i can Actually install an functional version of xubuntu 10.04 ?
[09:44] <Sysi> you can use alternate install disc
[09:45] <well_laid_lawn> Cael: all I can suggest is an xorg.conf file with the right ranges in it
[09:45] <Cael> thing is i have Yet to install.
[09:45] <Cael> happens when i select "Try Ubuntu" or Install.
[09:46] <well_laid_lawn> Cael: and the burnt cd passed the md5 check?
[09:46] <Cael> yes
[09:47] <Cael> its been an issue since the beta.
[09:49] <well_laid_lawn> Cael: using a hdmi cable ?
[09:50] <Cael> vga. the FX5200 is too old to have hdmi
[09:50] <well_laid_lawn> k
[09:50] <Cael> this pc is connected via hdmi (i'm just too lazy to get the servers old monitor out.)
[09:51] <well_laid_lawn> Cael: can the 5200 do that res?
[09:51] <Cael> not super sure but this monitor does go as low as 800x600
[09:51] <well_laid_lawn> k - it should show something then
[09:52] <Cael> when i tried the beta no matter the monitor it happened
[09:52] <Cael> (out of range)
[09:53] <Cael> hell our Multi-input tv does the same. (TV, AV x2 componet x2 VGAx1 HDMI x2)
[09:53] <Cael> and its a 50inch.
[09:53] <well_laid_lawn> pretty new monitors then Cael
[09:54] <well_laid_lawn> sounds like the driver might not have been updated for a while then - how you check that i don't know
[09:55] <Sysi> idk how nouveau works with older cards
[09:55] <Cael> i think it (the card) needs the legacy 175 drivers
[09:55] <well_laid_lawn> those should be on the nvidia site afaik
[09:56] <Cael> unless i edit the iso i'm still SOL
[09:56] <Cael> (and the alternate cd iso is still downloadin)
[09:59] <well_laid_lawn> heh :] - time for a coffee then...
[09:59] <Cael> you read my mind :P
[09:59] <Cael> <3 French vanilla w/ irsh cream Creamer.
[10:00]  * well_laid_lawn <-- jealous then :[
[10:00] <Sysi> i think there's boot option to force using vesa-driver
[10:01] <Cael> too bad the Legacy drivers dont offer accelerated OpenGL
[10:02] <Cael> instead of using the 2nd pc as a server, i would use it as an XBMC PC (based on ubuntu 9.04)
[10:05] <Cael> (though i love my xbox 1 w/ xbmc :3 next best thing to a pc connected to a tv or the AppleTV)
[10:40] <Cael> grrrr.
[10:41] <Cael> UltraISO refuses to do the checksum verify
[10:41] <Cael> dont know why it did before..
[11:01] <scott__> im using the open source ati drivers on a radeon 200M
[11:01] <scott__> 3d runs smoothly
[11:01] <scott__> but I get bad artifacts
[11:01] <scott__> xubuntu 10.04
[12:17] <Cael> ok i got it installed but a new prob arose.
[12:18] <Cael> i have a 320GB SATA hd din it via an SATA to IDE adapter.
[12:18] <Cael> aftre reboot Grup reporte d"Out of disk" and is in the grub rescuse prompt
[12:19] <Cael> thru installation i Did opt for the /home being encrypted
[12:21] <well_laid_lawn> it should boot even without /home/you
[12:22] <Cael> any reason its gioving me out of disk?
[12:22] <well_laid_lawn> it sounds like it needs a boot option like noapic but what I don't know
[12:23] <well_laid_lawn> an option for the sata to pata converter
[12:24] <Cael> its a simple one that connects  to the pin port wher ethe Ribbon would normally go.
[12:26] <Cael> like this one here http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.706
[13:17] <lozon> there's no way to change the icon of a symbolic link on the desktop, is there?
[13:19] <TheSheep> you can create your own icon theme
[13:19] <TheSheep> but I'd just use a .desktop file instead of a symbolic link
[13:19] <TheSheep> then you can use any icon you like
[16:28] <slow-motion> hi
[17:47] <Kangarooo> charlie-tca: ping
[17:47] <charlie-tca> yes?
[17:48] <Kangarooo> is it needed to make affectedd projects invalid when marking that a bug is dublicate of other bug?
[17:48] <charlie-tca> no
[18:26] <xubuntu286> hello
[18:26] <xubuntu286> What the defference of Ubuntu Kubuntu and Xubuntu is?
[18:27] <Sysi> !xfce
[18:27] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu uses gnome desktop environment, Kubuntu uses KDE, and Xubuntu uses Xfce
[18:28] <likemindead> Xfce is Teh Awesomenessest!!1!
[18:29] <charlie-tca> and it works, too
[18:29] <xubuntu286> which one do you like?
[18:29] <likemindead> I've been tinkering a bit and now my Quit icon (on the panel) just logs me out rather than giving me any options... HALP?
[18:30] <charlie-tca> xubuntu286: you are in #xubuntu, most of the people in here will like Xubuntu
[18:31] <charlie-tca> People in #kubuntu will prefer Kubuntu, too
[18:33] <charlie-tca> likemindead: do you have a guest logged in?
[19:09] <likemindead> No, charlie-tca, I have no other users created, it's just me.
[19:10] <charlie-tca> Not ssh'd into anything, no tty logins?
[19:10] <likemindead> I think the problem arose after I did a "sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove" ...
[19:10] <likemindead> No & no.
[19:10] <likemindead> I
[19:10] <likemindead> I'm a fairly non-technical end user. ;-]
[19:10] <charlie-tca> weird... it should not remove that.
[19:11] <likemindead> It's not too big of a deal, just a minor annoyance. Any idea what I need to reinstall?
[19:11] <charlie-tca> but you know if you go to ctrl+alt+f?? and login. that will cause that to happen
[19:12] <charlie-tca> xfce4-session-logout
[19:12] <likemindead> I didn't know that, but I haven't done a Ctrl+Alt+Fx in a long time. Not since I ditched GNOME for Xfce. In GNOME, I'd have freezes somewhat regularly. ;-)
[19:12] <charlie-tca> heh
[19:13] <likemindead> E: Couldn't find package xfce4-session-logout
[19:13] <likemindead> Hmm...
[19:16] <charlie-tca> let me go looking again
[19:18] <charlie-tca> ooops it is part of xfce4-session
[19:19] <charlie-tca> or you could add "Action buttons" to the panel, and remove the button that is there
[19:21] <likemindead> That's what I was thinking too. Thanks.
[19:21] <charlie-tca> good luck
[19:34] <bitphazer> When I start my bluetooth my xubuntu 10.04 returns this "Connection to Bluez failed: Bluez daemon is not running, blueman-manager cannot continue. How can I start Bluez daemon? (asus 1000h) Thanks in advance!
[21:36] <xh> hi! for some reason the shortcut for changing the keyboard layout in xfce4 does not work after xorg is restarted; could someone please help?
[21:41] <charlie-tca> xh: known bug
[21:42] <xh> charlie-tca: is there a way around it?
[21:42] <charlie-tca> nope
[21:45] <charlie-tca> Maybe this is the bug? http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5205
[21:47] <charlie-tca> I see you are asking in Xfce. I will let them answer then
[21:48] <Bashhead> Hello, anyone on?
[21:48] <TheSheep> no
[21:48] <xh> charlie-tca: yes, it looks like this is the bug; tho i don't have an xorg.conf - everything is handled by hal
[21:49] <Bashhead> i need help connecting xubuntu 10.04 to the internet
[21:49] <charlie-tca> no, Bashhead. Everybody here is offline today
[21:49] <Bashhead> well, yesterday it took a while for someone to answer back
[21:50] <charlie-tca> Yes, we are all volunteers and sometimes no one knows the answer and sometimes it takes a while to get time to give the answer if you do know it.
[21:50] <knome> yeah, we're actually all offline since we have problems with xubuntu and internet
[21:51] <charlie-tca> Almost no one is just sitting waiting for a question and has all the answers available to them
[21:51] <cody-somerville> give the guy a break :P
[21:51] <knome> cody-somerville, give US a break :P
[21:51] <cody-somerville> Bashhead, How are you attempting to connect to the internet?
[21:51] <Sysi> KICKBAN!
[21:51] <Sysi> :P
[21:52] <charlie-tca> did that yesterday, cody-somerville
[21:52] <knome> /kb Sysi
[21:52] <knome> oops
[21:52] <Besogon> Bashhead, What's happened?
[21:52] <knome> cody-somerville, charlie-tca: seems like our plan worked and unexpected support liners came up. including you, cody :P
[21:53] <Bashhead> through a wireless connection from my router
[21:54] <Besogon> Bashhead, xubuntu connect to any kind of network throug NetworkManager
[21:54] <Besogon> may be you set wrong options to that?
[21:55] <Bashhead> i can't find NetworkManger...
[21:55] <Bashhead> unless its the icon with two computers
[21:55] <knome> Bashhead, that's it.
[21:56] <Bashhead> so, i add a wireless connection?
[21:56] <Besogon> Bashhead, NM should detect your WiFi
[21:57] <Bashhead> but it didnt....
[21:57] <Besogon> if it works of cource
[21:57] <Bashhead> the only thing that is filled in NM is wired which is "Auto eth0"
[21:58] <Besogon> yes that is
[21:58] <Besogon> You can rename that
[21:58] <Besogon> later
[21:58] <Besogon> but You should know options for your Wifi
[21:58] <Besogon> e.g. password
[21:59] <Bashhead> i do
[21:59] <knome> if no wireless networks show up even some should, it's probably something with the wireless driver.
[22:00] <Bashhead> is there a way to update or get a new driver?
[22:01] <Besogon> Bashhead, try "iwlist scanning' in console
[22:02] <Besogon> What model of the Wifi-card do you ave?
[22:03] <xh> make sure the wifi is turned on; and that the RFKill flag is enabled
[22:04] <Besogon> yes
[22:05] <Besogon> If you use wifi-card both for Windows and Linux then Windows can turn it off and linux can't use it. So you should boot in windows and turn the Wifi-card on before you shut down
[22:06] <xh> `rfkill list` will show if wifi is enabled both in hardware and software; often it is just a matter of pressing Fn key + <some Fxx key> so that wireless led lights up
[22:11] <Bashhead> i installed xubuntu over windows
[22:11] <Bashhead> when i rfkill list
[22:11] <Bashhead> soft blocked:no and Hard blocked:yes
[22:11] <Bashhead> hard block:no*
[22:12] <Besogon> so you see your problem
[22:12] <Bashhead> ..?
[22:13] <Besogon>  Hard blocked:yes
[22:13] <xh> press the blue Fn key and find the right (usually in blue text) among the Fxx keys - it should have some kind of antenna
[22:14] <xh> e.g. on my netbook it is Fn + F11 - on your machine will probably be something different
[22:14] <Bashhead> Besogon, that was a mistype
[22:15] <Bashhead> xh, ive got an actual button for wireless, but when i press it, it doesnt do anything
[22:15] <Bashhead> it stays the same color(orange)
[22:16] <xh> Bashhead: and when it works (ie. in windows) it is green?
[22:16] <Bashhead> blue
[22:16] <xh> Bashhead: try pressing it several times - the number might matter :)
[22:16] <Besogon> so you have problems with driver
[22:17] <Bashhead> possibly... how would i go about fixing that
[22:18] <Besogon> First of all you should know the Wifi-hardware
[22:18] <Besogon> type 'sudo lshw'
[22:18] <Besogon> And find your vendor and all you can get for Wifi-vard
[22:19] <Pudabudigada> Hi all
[22:19] <Pudabudigada> How do I change my set time?
[22:20] <Besogon> may be command 'date' will help
[22:20] <Bashhead> am i looking for the network controller?
[22:20] <xh> Bashhead: i'd try booting some other live distro like the latest gnome- or kde-based ubuntu or mint, just to see if any of them detects your card; or just google the exact model for compatibility with linux
[22:21] <Bashhead> *-network DISABLED
[22:21] <Pudabudigada> I meant to modify what time it is
[22:21] <Pudabudigada> on my computer, of course.
[22:21] <Besogon> date - print or set the system date and time
[22:21] <Bashhead> i found the vendor and product info
[22:21] <Besogon> look man page
[22:22] <charlie-tca> Pudabudigada: try right-click the clock, left-click properties
[22:23] <Besogon> Bashhead, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
 the best way is e.g. `sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com`
[22:24] <Pudabudigada> That just brings up appearence settings for the applet, I want to know how to modify the system clock (temporal clock, not any busses or proc)
[22:24] <Bashhead> BCM4312 doesnt show up
[22:26] <Pudabudigada> xh: I want to modify it manually, for example, if I don't have web access for some reason.
[22:27] <Besogon> Bashhead, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=633971
[22:28] <Besogon> Bashhead, look carefuly it should help
[22:32] <Bashhead> alot of these help pages and tutorails say to type sudo apt................
[22:33] <Pudabudigada> Don't be scared by a command line, they are better than gui for some things
[22:35] <Bashhead> do you think i should use a different version of ubuntu?
[22:35] <Bashhead> ie 9.10?
[22:45] <Bashhead> how about Wicd
[22:45] <slow-motion> n8
[22:47] <well_laid_lawn> Bashhead: a newer version will have a newer kernel which would have more drivers in it but who knows if yours'll be in it
[22:47] <Bashhead> how would i go about installing Wicd
[22:47] <Bashhead> because i read to install Wicd i need to uninstall Network Manager
[22:49] <Bashhead> when ever i try to type, sudo apt-get install.... it says E: Couldn't find package....
[22:51] <well_laid_lawn> try apt-cache search network and case is important in the terminal
[22:51] <well_laid_lawn> Networkmanager is diff then networkmanager
[22:54] <Bashhead> why is it so difficult to connect to the internet
[22:57] <Pudabudigada> What do you mean by 'difficult'
[23:00] <Bashhead> shouldn't it be straight forward...?
[23:01] <Bashhead> fresh install and connecting to the internet shouldnt be hard...yet it is for ubuntu
[23:01] <knome> Bashhead, i'm sorry, but you seem to have a wireless card that has problems with ubuntu.
[23:01] <well_laid_lawn> it is more likely that the manufacturer of the wifi card hasn't released a linux driver or much detail on the cards specs
[23:04] <Bashhead> maybe im not look correctly...?
[23:04] <Bashhead> what can i tell you about my card so you could try looking?
[23:05] <mmfb> How do you add a shortcut icon to the top panel?
[23:05] <well_laid_lawn> sudo lshw -c Network Bashhead
[23:06] <well_laid_lawn> mmfb: right click the panel
[23:07] <Bashhead> Ethernet interface, Network controller and Wireless interface
[23:07] <well_laid_lawn> !paste | Bashhead
[23:07] <well_laid_lawn> can you paste what that command returned Bashhead ?
[23:08] <Bashhead> i installed ubuntu on my laptop and right now im on my desktop
[23:08] <mmfb> well_laid_lawn: That's apparently just TOO obvious. There isn't a way to add a shortcut to a program from there. The only option is to add shortcuts to things like the "Battery Monitor" or the "CPU Graph".
[23:08] <well_laid_lawn> mmfb: there's no   add to panel   option?
[23:09] <Sysi> mmfb: add launcher
[23:09] <mmfb> well_laid_lawn: No, just "Add New Items...".
[23:10] <well_laid_lawn> mmfb: one of the new items should be a launcher
[23:10] <mmfb> I know it's possible because I put Thunderbird up there a long time ago, but for some reason nothing I try works. I've even tried creating a new launcher and then dragging it up there, but nothing.
[23:10] <mmfb> well_laid_lawn: Haha... Damn. Now I feel pretty stupid.
[23:10] <Bashhead> product: BCM4312 802.11b/g
[23:11] <mmfb> well_laid_lawn: Thanks!
[23:11] <Bashhead> vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[23:11] <well_laid_lawn> np :] mmfb
[23:11] <well_laid_lawn> Bashhead: k - I'll have a google :]
[23:12] <Bashhead> thanks
[23:15] <well_laid_lawn> Bashhead: seems that broadcom has given very little linux support - best solution I found was to buy a usb wifi dongle...
[23:18] <Bashhead> im in luck i have a wifi dongle :P
[23:19] <Bashhead> now i have one more problem
[23:19] <Bashhead> lets say i want to install conky
[23:19] <Bashhead> im supposed to type sudo apt-get install conky into terminal
[23:20] <Bashhead> everything is fine till the end of the terminal message
[23:20] <Bashhead> E: Couldn't find package conky
[23:20] <Bashhead> for that matter, it cant find any package
[23:20] <Kangarooo> Bashhead: most wifi usb dogles work. before install use sudo apt-get update
[23:20] <Pudabudigada> Is it in your repo?
[23:21] <Bashhead> kanagroo, its downloading the packages, thanks
[23:22] <Kangarooo> then install conky Bashhead after lists are updated
[23:24] <Bashhead> everything seems fine sofar.
[23:26] <well_laid_lawn> woot!
[23:31] <Bashhead> how do i run conky after installing?
[23:31] <well_laid_lawn> alt+f2 and type conky
[23:32] <well_laid_lawn> you'll need a conkyrc file to change it tho