| gade | Hi, are you guys still taking papercuts? | 00:51 |
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| sense | gade: Yes we are. | 01:03 |
| sense | At all times. | 01:03 |
| gade | Thanks for reply - is there somewhere special to report it or can I just mention it here? | 01:04 |
| sense | gade: Please report a bug in <https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts>, as mentioning it here will probably make it go unnoticed. But before opening a new bug, please verify it wasn't alread y reported. | 01:09 |
| gade | OK will do and thank you. | 01:10 |
| sense | You're welcome! | 01:11 |
| meebey | hi, I am experienting with the messaging menu for Smuxi and I noticed a behavior where I am not sure if that is intended. When an IM indicator gets shown because of a new message and then another IM message from some other person, should all indicators disappear from the menu? | 02:26 |
| meebey | when a indicator was clicked, that is | 02:27 |
| meebey | see http://www.meebey.net/temp/smuxi/smuxi-0.8-dev-messaging-menu.png | 02:28 |
| meebey | ok, I take that back, it looks like indicators have a timeout and expire at some point | 02:36 |
| meebey | or its the garbage collector kicking in ^^ | 02:37 |
| RAOF | :) | 02:39 |
| RAOF | Certainly not all indicators have a timeout, and you should be able to have more than one indication active at once (xchat-gnome & gwibber both manage it) | 02:40 |
| meebey | RAOF: do you know if subtype im has a timeout? | 02:44 |
| RAOF | I don't believe it does, no. | 02:45 |
| * meebey is now adding reference to the indicator objects to suppress garbage collection on them | 02:45 | |
| RAOF | Some of my empathy IM notifications have lasted for hours. | 02:45 |
| meebey | ok | 02:45 |
| meebey | RAOF: are you aware of focus issues with window managers? | 02:47 |
| RAOF | I'm aware that kwin has an incredibly strict focus prevention algorithm, but apart from that… no. | 02:47 |
| meebey | RAOF: if a gtk status icon requests focus of the application window it will show it, with the messaging menu the WM seems to only indicator a focus change but is not doing it | 02:48 |
| meebey | RAOF: I am using metacity with docky | 02:48 |
| RAOF | WFM with mutter. | 02:49 |
| meebey | RAOF: and I have seen horrible horrible code in xchat-gnome's messaging menu support to workaround that | 02:49 |
| meebey | which I will avoid as I cant write such crappy code from C# ^^ | 02:49 |
| meebey | its sending X events | 02:49 |
| RAOF | Urgh. | 02:49 |
| meebey | yes | 02:49 |
| meebey | thats what I thought too | 02:50 |
| RAOF | But empathy, evolution, gwibber, and xchat-gnome all work for me. | 02:50 |
| meebey | RAOF: I will check gwibbers code then | 02:50 |
| meebey | RAOF: they no longer disappear, was the GC, bloddy managed languages | 03:05 |
| RAOF | :) | 03:05 |
| RAOF | libindicator-cil should probably hang on to those references itself, then. | 03:06 |
| meebey | why cant they leak like unmanaged languages? ^^ | 03:06 |
| * RAOF is a big fan of difficult-to-test-for crashes in p/invoke calls when the GC gets called during native code. | 03:06 | |
| meebey | hehe | 03:07 |
| meebey | yeah that can be fun | 03:07 |
| meebey | at least only the bridge needs to suffer, not the users of the resulting API | 03:07 |
| RAOF | Right. | 03:08 |
| RAOF | If it's done correctly! | 03:08 |
| meebey | :) | 03:08 |
| meebey | if someone cares, I find a small bug in the C# API | 03:08 |
| meebey | Indicator.SetPropertyTime() has stupid parameters, worthless for C# | 03:09 |
| meebey | Indicator.SetProperty(key, dateTime.ToString("s")) was to the rescue, passing a ISO 8601 conformant string | 03:09 |
| meebey | g_time_val is not even exposed at all in GLib of GTK# | 03:10 |
| meebey | RAOF: ping | 03:42 |
| RAOF | Pongity. | 03:43 |
| meebey | RAOF: do you have empathy with msg menu? | 03:44 |
| RAOF | Yes. | 03:45 |
| meebey | RAOF: does it show a icon or msg body for empathy indicators? | 03:45 |
| RAOF | It shows the contact's avatar (if available) on the left, the contact's name, then the time since indicated. | 03:46 |
| meebey | RAOF: ok thanks | 03:47 |
| meebey | RAOF: code also passes body but the spec doesnt mention :) | 03:47 |
| meebey | RAOF: so I was curious | 03:47 |
| RAOF | It passes the body, too? That might be for the notify-osd indication, if empathy doesn't use libnotify itself directly. | 03:48 |
| RAOF | The body *does* show up in the notification, just not in the indicator. | 03:48 |
| RAOF | (transient notification) | 03:48 |
| meebey | RAOF: ic | 03:49 |
| RAOF | I would have thought that empathy would talk to libnotify itself, but maybe not. | 03:49 |
| meebey | so I will add icon and then I am done I think | 03:49 |
| RAOF | Oh! Twitter will have an icon available. I was thinking “what icon are you going to use to separate different IRC channels?” | 03:50 |
| meebey | RAOF: I was wrong | 03:51 |
| meebey | RAOF: it checks and passes body for updating the timestamp | 03:51 |
| meebey | its not passing the body to the indicator though | 03:51 |
| RAOF | Ah. That makes more sense. | 03:51 |
| meebey | RAOF: smuxi has no avatar support yet, so I will only pass person or group chat icon for now | 03:52 |
| meebey | RAOF: but yeah, latter it would be twitter avatar | 03:52 |
| meebey | gar, the binding is lacking Indicator.SetPropertyIcon() | 03:55 |
| meebey | ok I give up on icon for now, the C# API needs to be fixed | 04:24 |
| Cimi | davidbarth: today's tasks? | 09:32 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: hi | 09:48 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: argb is next on the list | 09:48 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: is the new gtk package ok now? | 09:48 |
| Cimi | haven't tried it yet | 09:55 |
| Cimi | I'm working with christian right now | 09:56 |
| Cimi | to be prepared on monday, since he will be in the office (but he will leave on tuesday for the sprint) | 09:56 |
| davidbarth | ah, right | 09:57 |
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| Cimi | davidbarth: ok I resurrected my maverick installaiton :) | 13:31 |
| Cimi | and rgba works | 13:31 |
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| meebey | ok, I could workaround the absent inidicate_indicator_set_property_icon function in the CLI binding by reimplementing it in C#: http://www.meebey.net/temp/smuxi/smuxi-0.8-dev-messaging-menu.png | 14:04 |
| meebey | wasn't as bad as I thought, it expects a base64 encoded png image | 14:05 |
| meebey | besides the 2 API glitches I think libinidicate and messaging menu in general is well done! | 14:05 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: ah, good to hear | 14:06 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: can you resume the argb task then, adding the properties you discussed with Cody? | 14:07 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: and there is also the notebook task i'd like to have some feedback on, ie knowing whether there is something to integrate and review, or whether it's blocked on a design refresh | 14:08 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: i've created tasks for the work list we exchanged by emailed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~cimi/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status:list=NEW&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status:list=CONFIRMED&field.status:list=TRIAGED&field.status:list=INPROGRESS&field.status:list=FIXCOMMITTED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_ | 14:23 |
| davidbarth | supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.milestone:list=30877&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&search=Search | 14:23 |
| davidbarth | and assigned them to you | 14:23 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: you can use the bug log to exchange with christian and bratsche as well | 14:23 |
| Cimi | davidbarth: for the notebook stuff | 14:38 |
| Cimi | I will discuss with otto on tuesday | 14:39 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: right, I understand this is blocked for the moment, so no worries if you can't make progresses on that yet | 14:41 |
| Cimi | davidbarth: I think the modification for the icon size is trivial | 14:46 |
| Cimi | davidbarth: maybe line 473? | 14:47 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: which module/project? | 14:47 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: last time we tried, there where a couple of modules that had to be touched, but libindicator was the main one i think, because this is where the helper code loads the icon | 14:48 |
| Cimi | oh ok | 14:49 |
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