eMyllerQuintasan: built from svn?00:01
eMyllerplease tell me which -dev packages i have to install00:01
eMylleri can't download anything extra, i'm on a limited broadband :\00:02
eMyller[ noob question; how do i know from which repo a package come? ]00:02
eMyller[ nvm ]00:06
tsdgeoshttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.5 disappeared?00:10
txwikingerwith QWebView in pyqt.. how can I get any error messages?00:42
Quintasanapachelogger: do you have kdegraphics ready?01:15
rbelemhey guys, someone already packaged bluedevil?01:17
Quintasanrbelem: it's being packaged in Debian AFAIK01:17
QuintasanWe will sync it :P01:17
rbelemcool :-)01:18
rbelemQuintasan, do you know where can i get the source package?01:21
Quintasanrbelem: I do belive it is in GIT repo01:24
Quintasanrbelem: http://www.afiestas.org/bluedevil-the-new-kde-bluetooth-stack-is-here/01:28
Quintasanrbelem: and http://www.gitorious.org/libbluedevil01:32
rbelemthanks Quintasan :-)01:32
Quintasanyou'd be interested it the lib too01:32
* rbelem is now building bluedevil pkg01:33
claydohwhom do we ping to fix the kubuntu.org's typo in the site's title?01:36
Quintasanofir or sheytan01:39
QuintasaneMyller also I think01:39
claydohI'll consider them pinged :)01:44
* rbelem is now using bluedevil :-D01:48
eMyllerQuintasan: sheytan is off, i don't have access to the site content and i don't see ofirk for quite a long time... maybe Riddell?01:50
QuintasanRiddell is away till sunday I'm afraid01:55
Quintasanall my builders are acting up now03:00
Quintasancowbuilder, go to hell03:08
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* Quintasan thinks sbuilder needs more love03:15
Quintasanryanakca: are you using sbuild?03:15
ryanakcaQuintasan: Yes03:18
ryanakcaNeed something built?03:18
Quintasanryanakca: nope, I have two questions03:20
Quintasanfirst of all, how do you increase the space available to process during the build?03:21
Quintasanand secondly, where on earth the sbuild stores downloaded debs?03:21
ryanakcaQuintasan: Available space, as in HD space? I use a LV for my schroot and the build just creates a snapshot of it. I believe there's an option in /etc/schroot/schroot.conf to change the size of the lv snapshot03:22
Quintasanryanakca: I'm not using it with lvm 03:23
ryanakcaAs for the downloaded debs, it doesn't store them anywheres, they get lost after the build when it destroys the snapshot. I run an apt-cacher to save on bandwidth03:23
ryanakca(approx and apt-cacher-ng both work well, at the moment I'm using apt-cacher-ng)03:23
Quintasanryanakca: oh, that would be nice, care to link me to detalis how to configure that?03:23
ryanakcasudo apt-get install apt-cacher-ng && sudo vi /etc/apt-cacher-ng/acng.conf ... you should a line that looks like "Remap-ubuntu: file:ubuntu_mirrors /ubuntu ; file:backends_ubuntu"03:26
ryanakcaapprox is easier to configure though, but it doesn't provide shiny graphs of how much bandwidth you're saving03:26
ryanakcathen just change the line in you chroot's sources.list from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu to
ryanakca(approx.conf is just filled with lines like "ubuntu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" which creates the cache )03:27
Quintasanryanakca: in chroot's sources.list03:30
Quintasandeb-src maverick-security main restricted universe multiverse03:30
Quintasanlike that?03:30
ryanakcaAh, which are you using?03:31
ryanakcaYou'll need to create another entry for security.ubuntu.com03:31
Quintasanthere is also -updates03:31
ryanakcaAdd the following line to acng.conf:03:31
ryanakcaRemap-ubuntu-security: /ubuntu-security ; http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu03:31
ryanakcamaverick-updates is under archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu , correct? If so, just add 'deb maverick-updates main blah blah....' to sources.list03:33
Quintasanshould apt-get update work or not?03:33
ryanakcaRemember to get rid of the old archive.u.c lines in sources.list03:34
ryanakcaAlso, don't forget to restart apt-cacher-ng after adding the new remaps03:34
Quintasangah, it fails to connect :/03:34
Quintasanrestarted it03:34
ryanakcaHmmm. s/ maybe?03:34
ryanakcaNot sure why it isn't working.03:34
Quintasanit tries to connnect on 8003:36
ryanakcaOh, silly me.03:36
Quintasanin acng.conf03:36
ryanakcayou want and
QuintasanNow I wonder about space03:37
Quintasankdepimlibs failed due to not enoguh space :<03:38
* Quintasan really needs to do LVM03:38
* ryanakca nods, much nicer. There's even a mk-sbuild-lv script in ubuntu-dev-tools :)03:38
QuintasanI though I would get most of kde 4.5 done by now but the damn build tools had to start acting up03:39
ryanakcaIn any case, try 'man schroot.conf', schroot.conf can be found at /etc/apt/sources.list03:39
* ryanakca => bed03:40
ryanakcaGood luck :)03:40
Quintasanoh ma09:11
QuintasanI slept 3 hours09:11
Quintasannot too much, isn't it?09:15
* Quintasan goes skateboarding after uploading09:19
freglis there a ppa containing git 1.7.2 somewhere around?09:42
ikoniashadeslayer: huh, what where ?09:50
apacheloggerfregl: ahoy10:23
apacheloggerfregl: 1.7.2 is not even in debian it seems10:24
freglhey apachelogger :)10:24
freglapachelogger: yeah, I found some ppa10:24
apacheloggeroh, ok10:24
freglif it really fixes crlf problems, I'm sold on 1.7.2 ...10:24
apacheloggerQuintasan: did the colors on the packaging page break?10:27
ryanakcaQuintasan: Get it working?10:59
apacheloggerRiddell: still no progress on desktopcouch or syncdaemon -.-11:03
CIA-98[kdebase-runtime] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100730104859-gs3vhpdu9sc9n261 * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) * Add kubuntu_91_phonon_forget_option.diff from openSUSE to allow users with * New upstream release - Refresh kubuntu_89_strigi_ram_detection.diff11:49
Quintasanapachelogger: someone did remove it11:51
Quintasanapachelogger: I want to do the rest by myself, any problems with that?11:51
apacheloggerQuintasan: all of it? Oo11:51
Quintasanryanakca: yes, I wanted to know if there is a way to make it cache packages from ninja ppa11:51
apacheloggeror just the parent stack?11:51
Quintasanapachelogger: all of it11:52
Quintasanunless you have some packages ready11:52
apacheloggerwell, kdegraphics is building and kdebase-runtime ready for building11:52
apacheloggerQuintasan: do you really think doing all of it is going to be very fast? ^^11:52
QuintasanI think I can manage it within two hours11:53
QuintasanTo make it build at least11:53
Quintasanthe QA will sure take time11:53
apacheloggerincluding testbuilding? Oo11:53
Quintasanwell, kdebindings may be a problem11:53
apacheloggersee :P11:54
Quintasanbut if I leave it while I'm out it should be ready by the time I'm back11:54
apacheloggerQuintasan: well, what we can do... you prepare the packages and push to bzr then whoever has resources can come and pick a testbuild11:54
apacheloggershould be even faster11:54
QuintasanI'll testbuild and upload what I can11:54
Quintasanstalcup: how's workspace going?11:55
* apachelogger needs to upgrade to maverick so he can make u1 kde work ...11:55
apacheloggerOTOH upgrading will almost certainly break all sorts of things ^^11:56
QuintasanI think I will prepare my ninja dir to work like pbuilder11:57
apacheloggerQuintasan: huh?11:58
Quintasancp -rf ninja 4.5-release11:58
Quintasanand download all bzr branches to apopriate dirs11:59
Quintasansomething like that11:59
QuintasanI need to plan this in detail later11:59
apacheloggershadeslayer: so here is my prefferred workflow for fixing patch rejects .... a) bzr-buildpackage -e (that ditches you a proper source tree in ../build-area) b) try quilt push (the build process uses a super restrictive setting which makes things fail that quilt would usually be able to fix), if that works -> quilt refresh the patch in question and copy back to bzr 3) if this also yiels failure -> quilt push -f (this will drop reject files)12:00
apachelogger 4) manually apply the rejects to the files and quilt refresh -> copy refreshed patch to bzr12:00
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=3&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 3 | Source imported12:00
apacheloggershould be documented in teh wiki very much I suppose ^^12:00
apacheloggerQuintasan: gypsy did that ;)12:00
apacheloggerjust that it outdated and also I did not like its design anymore12:00
* apachelogger became from a procedural fanboi a oop fanboi12:01
QuintasanI know that already12:01
apacheloggerscary if you think about it12:01
* apachelogger is wondering why kdegraphics takes so long to buid12:02
Quintasanryanakca: cause ninja uses https and apt-cacher-ng throw error that https is invalid url :<12:03
apacheloggerwhat use would that have?12:03
apacheloggerstuff gets stored in aptcache anyway?12:03
QuintasanI need to ask sbuild guys why it won't use aptcache12:04
* apachelogger is wondering what the s stands for :P12:04
Quintasanbeats me12:04
Quintasansucky builder? :P12:04
* apachelogger is wondering what the p in pbuilder stands for12:04
* apachelogger is wondering what the cow in cowbuilder stands for12:05
ulyssespussy builde12:05
Quintasanpackage builder12:05
Quintasancow = copy-on-write12:05
apacheloggerI made a cow this morning12:05
Quintasanapachelogger: ^^12:05
apacheloggerand then I made a bash alias12:05
apacheloggerand the alias is called milk-maverick ;)12:05
apacheloggerQuintasan: oh, that makes sense12:05
Quintasanman cowbuilder12:06
Quintasanyay for sbuild12:06
* apachelogger needs terminator!12:06
Quintasanbut more yay for pbuilder12:06
apacheloggerkonsole tabs are way to space inefficient12:06
Quintasanwth is terminator?12:06
apachelogger!info terminator12:06
ubottuterminator (source: terminator): multiple GNOME terminals in one window. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.93-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 185 kB, installed size 1668 kB12:06
apacheloggeractually konsole has that for ages12:07
QuintasanAre you making fun of me apachelogger ?12:07
apacheloggerjust in a static sucky manner12:07
apacheloggerQuintasan: no, I am making fun of ocanonical trying to save their arse from eternal damnation from not contributing to gnome :P12:07
QuintasanThey would be better of using Qt12:08
apachelogger*canonical even12:08
apacheloggerOTOH I am also making fun of GNOME for not incorporating stuff from canonical12:08
CIA-98[kdegraphics] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100730111019-hhc1fo7an1phzixa * debian/libokularcore1.install bump libocular version ... no clue where I changed that earlier12:10
ryanakcaQuintasan: I've struggled with that too, I don't think there's an apt-cacher that supports https :(12:13
ryanakcaQuintasan: Feel free to add support for one though :D12:13
* Quintasan whis he was skilled enough to pull that off12:13
apachelogger  Uploading kdegraphics_4.5.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1_source.changes: done.12:14
apacheloggerSuccessfully uploaded packages.12:14
apacheloggerQuintasan: testbuilding runtime12:15
* apachelogger is wondering why he did not have that idea with installing kdelibs5-dev in the chroot earlier12:16
Quintasankdeadmin uploaded12:17
apacheloggerjr broke the wiki page :P12:18
Quintasanwhat on earth...12:19
* apachelogger is wondering who is responsible for layout in moinmoin development12:20
apachelogger"|| <#ffff00>" is invalid but "||<#ffff00>" is valid12:25
apacheloggerthat is one terrific markup parser12:25
QuintasanI: copying [./kde]12:25
Quintasanwht the fck12:25
Quintasancp: cannot stat `./kde': No such file or directory12:25
apacheloggerQuintasan: where is that from?12:26
QuintasanI'm trying to build kdeaccessibilty12:26
Quintasanwill paste in a second12:27
* apachelogger tries finding breakfast meanwhile12:28
Quintasanoh well, I used pbdebuild instead of --build *.dsc file and it worke12:29
shadeslayersorry for the fscked up builds12:40
* shadeslayer goes to hidey holw12:41
Quintasanit was just aspell12:41
Quintasanshadeslayer: you should've check not-installed :P12:41
shadeslayeri did12:41
shadeslayerit wasnt there12:41
shadeslayeralso.. i did apt-get build-dep kdelibs  in a clean chroot.. i have no idea how aspell got pulled12:42
eMylleranyone could please confirm https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42156 ?12:43
ubottubugs.webkit.org bug 42156 in WebKit Qt "Qt WebKit doesn't play nice with some CSS3 rendering" [Major,Unconfirmed]12:43
shadeslayerand if anyone can comment on bug 52789612:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 527896 in wicd (Ubuntu) "missing info about conflict with network-manager package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52789612:44
shadeslayerdo we need a conflict?12:44
QuintasaneMyller: looks like it's occuring12:44
QuintasaneMyller: let me just reinstall rekonq with purging12:44
Quintasaneverything builds just fine12:45
Quintasanapachelogger: faster than I expected12:45
QuintasanI will push to bzr later after I have everything built12:45
shadeslayerdo you need kdebase done?12:46
shadeslayerapachelogger: ive copied over your method to a online doc :P12:47
shadeslayerin which i keep all of such stugg12:47
Quintasanshadeslayer: I will do it, waiting for stalcup to finish workspace12:47
shadeslayerok ill take up whats left then12:47
shadeslayerplasma-addons :D12:48
eMyllerQuintasan: it was confirmed by one qtwebkit dude. shadow blur isn't working yet, but is WIP.12:48
shadeslayeroh wait.. i have to format this system12:49
shadeslayeruh oh.. usb creator is broken12:49
ikoniashadeslayer: you there ?12:51
ikoniapm ?12:51
Quintasanapachelogger: \o/12:55
shadeslayerapachelogger: are you working on bindings?12:56
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apacheloggerI am runtiming12:59
shadeslayeri think the fonts just got a ubuntu fonts got a bold version13:00
shadeslayerthat came out all wrong :P13:00
Adri2000is there anything done for integrating thunderbird with plasma-widget-message-indicator?13:05
apacheloggernow I know why libkdeinit4 stuff yields false positives with list-missing!13:06
apacheloggerthe pkg-kde-tools packaging foo apparently moves them to a kde specific directory13:06
apacheloggerwhich leads to problems because list-missing does compare actual file presence (which is also the case why manpages fail ... since those get compressed)13:07
apacheloggerwell, we can easily enough work around this once I made a custom list-missing implementation13:07
apacheloggerwe just need to expand the usr/lib/ path to the kde specific one for libkdeini4_13:07
Quintasanapachelogger: check the packaging wiki13:07
Quintasanshadeslayer: did you update kdelibs in bzr?13:07
apacheloggerwhat is there?13:07
shadeslayerQuintasan: no13:07
Quintasanshadeslayer: remove the aspell crap and it is ready to go13:08
Quintasanapachelogger: progress :P13:08
shadeslayerill do kdeedu13:08
CIA-98[kdebase-runtime] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100730120829-y8a93pg5x5es21pa * debian/kdebase-runtime-data.install remove files13:08
Quintasanis kdegames big?13:08
apacheloggerkdeedu too13:08
shadeslayerQuintasan: also i made some changes to games in bzr.. you might want to keep those..13:09
apacheloggerQuintasan: kdegames is a lot of code bundled with a lot of artwork13:09
QuintasanI won't do it13:09
shadeslayer( fixed a bug in the depends of kajongg )13:09
QuintasanI will not be able to upload it13:09
Quintasankajonng is broken anyways shadeslayer 13:10
shadeslayerfine ill take it up after kdedu13:10
QuintasanYou can't host local game13:10
shadeslayerQuintasan: whats broken?13:10
shadeslayerah coding problem then13:10
yofelcan someone confirm bug 611677 ?13:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 611677 in kdeadmin (Ubuntu) "system-config-printer-kde crashes with AttributeError: 'QString' object has no attribute 'rfind'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61167713:10
shadeslayer^ i get that in usb-creator as well13:10
yofelpyqt then I guess13:11
yofel~karma python13:11
shadeslayeryofel: no bot13:11
apacheloggerthe bot is the lost13:11
Quintasanapachelogger broke it13:11
apacheloggerjussi did :P13:11
Quintasangah, routing problems with Riddell's machine13:11
QuintasanI wanted to do bindings as well13:11
* Quintasan woes on his crappy upload13:12
Quintasanoh kdewebdev left13:13
QuintasanI'm taking it13:13
* apachelogger was just about to say that :(13:14
apachelogger  Uploading kdebase-runtime_4.5.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1_source.changes: done.13:14
apacheloggerSuccessfully uploaded packages.13:14
Quintasannow just poke stalcup with a stick13:14
* apachelogger takes a sonic pointy screw driver of doom and tickles stalcup13:16
* apachelogger is wondering since when pyqt has QString proper13:17
apacheloggerdidnt it always convert QString to python str since they pretty much provide the same functionalities?13:18
apacheloggerQuintasan: anything I can do?13:18
Quintasansit back and realax13:18
apacheloggerotherwise I will start upgrading to maverick and break my system ^^13:18
Quintasanrelax :P13:19
Quintasanor do kdebindings13:19
QuintasanI can do the update in bzr but that is pointless13:19
apacheloggerbindings depends on workspace?13:19
Quintasanoh well13:19
Quintasanso we are stalled until stalcup arrives?13:19
Quintasanwhat the fck is going on13:19
apacheloggerneeds a policy change13:19
Quintasanapachelogger: http://wklej.org/id/370656/13:20
Quintasan>I: copying [./web]13:20
Quintasanwhat the heck?13:20
Quintasanthis is madness13:21
apacheloggerQuintasan: you broke something13:21
Quintasanbut what13:21
apacheloggerQuintasan: pbuilder -> dsc13:21
apacheloggernot changes file13:22
apacheloggercleary pbuilder is running into a parsing error there13:22
apacheloggerbecause it doesnt handle changes13:22
Quintasansbuild confused me13:22
apacheloggerkdesudo -- do-release-upgrade -f KDE -d13:23
Quintasanapachelogger: you know, since I started building kdelibs we had a flawless streak13:23
Quintasando not break it13:23
apacheloggerbetter idea13:24
* apachelogger does real upgrade test13:24
apacheloggerdantti: ping ping ping13:37
Quintasansup apachelogger ?13:39
apacheloggerUpgrade to .... VOID13:40
* apachelogger doesnt know how to check where the failure is13:40
shadeslayerapachelogger: hehe :P13:40
apacheloggerme@osiris:~$ /usr/lib/update-manager/check-new-release13:41
apacheloggerChecking for a new ubuntu release13:41
apacheloggerNew release 'maverick' available.13:41
apacheloggerupdate-manager is not at fault at least13:41
ryanakcaQuintasan: Now that I think of it, you could probably use squid as an apt-cacher for https, just set the max file size and the expiry time for *.deb incredibly high.13:41
QuintasanUbuntu VV == Vivid Void13:42
Quintasanapachelogger: ^13:42
danttiapachelogger: I'm going to work, I'll pong you there...13:43
QuintasanThough, how void can be vivid?13:43
apacheloggerdantti: okies13:43
apacheloggeroh dear13:43
apacheloggerget_distro_upgrades of the apt backend is sort of ugly13:43
Quintasan>implying we will ever get to VV13:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: dude.. look at your bottom tasl bar13:44
apacheloggergot 3 FIXME comments within 5 lines ^^13:44
apacheloggershadeslayer: did I view pron at the time of snapshoting? 13:44
QuintasanYOU PIRATE!13:44
shadeslayerno.. the task manager plasmoid is all messed up13:44
apacheloggershadeslayer: that happens from timing issues in ksnapshot && reordering animation in plasma13:45
apacheloggerbreaks every release and gets fixed every other :P13:45
Quintasandefective by design13:46
shadeslayerQuintasan: maybe he is seeding Kubunt iso?13:46
ryanakca!info squid-deb-proxy | Quintasan13:46
ubottuQuintasan: squid-deb-proxy (source: squid-deb-proxy): Squid proxy configuration optimized for deb packages. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.1 (lucid), package size 4 kB, installed size 88 kB13:46
QuintasanIn Futurama directory?13:46
Quintasanshadeslayer: ^13:46
* shadeslayer takes care of that stuff by maintaining a seprate activity for that13:47
QuintasanI somehow fail to understand activites13:48
Quintasanthere was a option Different activity per desktop13:48
Quintasanbut now there is only different set of widgets per desktop13:48
Quintasanwhy bother?13:48
ryanakcaQuintasan: Same here. the "Activities" button in the plasma toolbox (top right corner) on 4.4.92 does a whole lot of nothing.13:48
QuintasanI just can't comprehend the logic (or lack of it) behind the change13:49
QuintasanI wanted to have a separate set of widgets per deskto13:49
Quintasannow I do13:49
Quintasanbut what is the point of activities now13:49
ryanakcaOne annoying thing that I've just noticed is that, when you have multiple monitors, your activities will randomly switch between monitors at each login, instead of leaving Activity#1 on netbook monitor and Activity#2 on widescreen monitor.13:50
QuintasanThat's why I unplugged my second monitor13:51
Quintasanthe whole activity and dualhead needs moar love13:51
shadeslayerhow do i export my ssh keys? any ideas?13:53
shadeslayerive just copied over my .ssh dir for now13:53
apacheloggerthat is export?!13:53
apacheloggerssh does not have keyrings13:53
apacheloggerevery key got it its own file13:53
apacheloggerevery public key also got its own file13:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: i just need to transfer the keys onto my new install13:54
shadeslayer( which is yet to be done )13:54
ryanakcassh-copy-id hostname13:54
ryanakcashadeslayer: that will copy your public key over / let you log in with it. If you want your private, then yes, just copy ~/.ssh13:55
shadeslayerok :)13:55
freinhardare there any kubuntu specific patches for systemsetting->multimedia that deal with pulse?13:57
shadeslayerchromium leaking blood :P http://imgur.com/TkhwQ13:57
apacheloggerfregl: not that I know of13:59
freinhardapachelogger: so if i'm using pulseaudio it's perfectly fine that systemsettings->multimedia lists nothing except pulseaudio?14:02
apacheloggerif you have no other backends installed I would think so14:02
apacheloggeror in general, IIRC the pulseaudio stuff does not allow configuring devices and that stuff14:02
apacheloggersince that is handled by pulse14:02
freinhardk, i'm just curious since the bluedevil review shows the device in systemsettings->multimedia but here with pulseaudio-module-bluetooth installed there is nothing like that14:04
shadeslayeri had to install usb-creator-geeteekay to get my bootable usb :S14:04
apachelogger(pkcon:13136): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: IA__g_object_set_valist: object class `PkDistroUpgrade' has no property named `type'14:05
apacheloggerone would expect internal solutions not to fall over their own C objects14:05
apacheloggerholy french fries14:06
apacheloggerfreinhard: because that is all done in pulse14:06
Quintasanlol pulse14:06
* Quintasan is going out14:06
apacheloggerso bluedevil ought to poke into ulse14:06
apacheloggerfreinhard: http://community.kde.org/index.php?title=Multimedia/Sprint2010/Notes/PulseAudio14:08
shadeslayerah see the reason i messed up kde4libs is because i have no coffee int the house14:08
apacheloggercolin is really the guy to talk to about this stuff :)14:08
freinhardapachelogger: pulseaudio is a requirement for bluedevil, therefore the reviewer must have pulse installed to get these results: http://www.afiestas.org/bluedevil-1-0-review/14:08
freinhardapachelogger: third video14:08
freinhardand the pulseaudio icon is broken, http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/KDE got a shiny one ;)14:10
apacheloggerthat does not seem right14:10
apacheloggerfreinhard: maybe the video was done with bluez-alsa?14:11
apacheloggerI defenitely remember colin saying that the phonon kcm will not display other stuff if pulse is selected becuase pulse has device control at that point14:11
freinhardapachelogger: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/KDE states that there is some module missing/not loaded14:11
freinhardsearch for start-pulseaudio-kde14:12
apachelogger!info pulsaudio14:13
ubottuPackage pulsaudio does not exist in lucid14:13
apacheloggerfreinhard: what version are you running?14:13
apachelogger!info pulseaudio14:13
ubottupulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14 (lucid), package size 623 kB, installed size 4460 kB14:13
freinhardand there is no such command start-pulseaudio-kde, there is start-pulseaudio-x1114:15
apacheloggermaybe the pulseaudio package on lucid is crap14:15
apachelogger!find start-pulseaudio-kde14:15
ubottuPackage/file start-pulseaudio-kde does not exist in lucid14:15
apachelogger!find start-pulseaudio-kde maverick14:15
ubottuFile start-pulseaudio-kde found in pulseaudio14:15
apacheloggerfreinhard: lucid package is crap - report bug14:15
freinhardwhy are there no "REPORT BUG HERE" buttons in LP?14:19
apacheloggerbug reports are discouraged in ubuntu14:21
apacheloggertook me like 20 minutes to report one the other day14:21
apacheloggerfreinhard: ubuntu-bug pluseaudio should do the trick14:21
freinhardlol, package pulseaudio does not exist14:22
apacheloggerah right14:22
apacheloggerit is even so strongly discouraged that you actually need to find a proper binary package because the bug report util of choice is unable to resolve source packag enames14:23
apacheloggeractually it should be there ^^14:24
apacheloggerfreinhard: are you sure it is installed?14:24
freinhardapachelogger: what is installed? pulseaudio?14:25
apacheloggerthe package14:25
apachelogger(pkcon:18959): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: IA__g_object_set_valist: object class `PkDistroUpgrade' has no property named `type'14:25
apacheloggerthat does not go away and does not make no sense14:25
freinharddpkg -l pulseadio: ii  pulseaudio                                                1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14           PulseAudio sound server14:25
freinhardbuildlog says:14:27
freinhard# list-missing files result:14:27
freinhard=>packaging bug14:27
freinhardbug 61170014:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 611700 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio misses start-pulseaudio-kde" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61170014:28
apacheloggercrimsun_: ^^^^^^^^^14:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: how do i unstage a bzr commit? 14:29
apacheloggershadeslayer: unstage?14:30
shadeslayersince it seems http://pastebin.com/XCscj9pX << some extra files entered the debian dir14:30
apacheloggerremove them?14:30
freinhardhmm /usr/lib/pulse-0.9.21/modules/module-hal-detect.so isn't installed either, i bet that one should end up in some -dev package14:30
apacheloggerbzr clean-tree maybe?14:30
apacheloggerfreinhard: well, ubuntu does not use hal nomore, so that might be intentional14:31
apacheloggerincredibly what a PITA it is to get debug symbols on buntu -.-14:32
shadeslayerQuintasan: kdelibs is in bzr14:33
Quintasancheck kdelibs import okay?14:34
shadeslayernot for now14:34
ScottKNC|Alaska: We're back up to kdebindings on armel.  Still broken.  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52717496/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.kdebindings_4:4.4.95-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:47
danttiapachelogger: pong :P15:01
apacheloggerdantti: http://imagebin.ca/view/BdlBogl.html how does one debug kpk not getting name or version of the new upgrade?15:02
danttiapachelogger: apt encoding bug?15:03
apacheloggernot sure if it is related, but if I try to get the info using pkcon I gtet (pkcon:20814): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: IA__g_object_set_valist: object class `PkDistroUpgrade' has no property named `type'15:03
apacheloggerDistribution: (null)15:03
apachelogger Type: unknown15:03
apachelogger Summary: (null)15:03
danttiapachelogger: pkcon get-distro-upgrades15:03
danttithat works?15:03
apacheloggerthat is what I get with that15:04
danttistupid me15:04
apacheloggerso supposedly the problem is somewhere within packagekit itself15:04
danttiapachelogger: which version of packagekit?15:04
danttioh I have the bug here too (now that I'm using kubuntu15:05
apacheloggeroh you are using kubuntu now ^^15:06
danttiapachelogger: yup they converted me, but here it's obvious that won't work :P15:06
apacheloggerso I think the glib warning is coming from pk_client_distro_upgrade_cb15:06
danttiit's pkcon of 0.5 talking to packagekit 0.6 :P15:07
apacheloggernot sure if that could be the cause of all evil though15:07
apacheloggerI checked earlier, only 0.5 on the works15:07
danttik let me see what packagekit --verbose says15:08
danttiapachelogger: it worked here15:09
danttididn't show any upgrades15:10
apacheloggeroh, right, that is because I have patched update-manager ^^15:10
danttiapachelogger: what do you mean?15:11
danttiso with stable stuff it's ok15:11
apacheloggerthe thing is15:11
apacheloggerI want to upgrade to maverick and thought it would be a good idea to check that lucid -> maverick upgrade promting works properlys15:12
apacheloggerso I patched my update-manager to allow upgrading to devel releases15:12
danttisure, but how can we "fake" that?15:12
danttiapachelogger: how can I do it here too then?15:12
apacheloggerin /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/DistUpgrade/MetaRelease.py and /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/UpdateManager/Core/MetaRelease.py look for type == "lts"15:13
danttiapachelogger: I'll patch aptBackend.py first..15:13
apacheloggeradd devel to that15:13
apacheloggerthen in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades set the prompt to devel15:13
apacheloggerthat way no matter what sort of upgrade the various tools ask for they will always get the latest devel release15:14
apacheloggerwhich is super for debugging15:14
* apachelogger is going to include that in update-manager proper just because the concept is so sweet ^^15:14
apacheloggerme@osiris:/var/log$ /usr/lib/update-manager/check-new-release15:15
apacheloggerChecking for a new ubuntu release15:15
apacheloggerNew release 'maverick' available.15:15
apacheloggerseems to be working just fine15:15
apacheloggerin the aptBackend.py it also gets the right information15:15
apachelogger(checked that with debugging)15:16
danttik, I've patched aptBackend t to show that there is and upgrade and it fails15:16
apacheloggerdantti: did you patch the right file?15:16
apachelogger(the one in usr/lib/python2.6 is the one you need to change)15:16
danttiI changed aptBackend.py directly15:16
apacheloggeroh and reinstalled?15:16
danttito emit a fake upgrade15:16
danttino, I run packagekitd --verbose on myself15:17
danttiso it's 0.5 version 15:17
apacheloggeroh well, maybe it uses the wrong file :P15:17
danttinot the log says the right one /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/apt/aptBackend.py15:18
apacheloggerargh... autohell buildystem!15:18
apacheloggerdantti: very weird15:18
apacheloggerare you sure you did not break indention :P15:19
danttiapachelogger: i have the same error as you.. so I guess no15:20
apacheloggerwell then15:20
apacheloggerwhat is sure is that pk-client.c:1130 needs to be fixed15:20
* apachelogger testbuilds15:21
tuosWhat should be the proper way fix #611677 and similar bugs? loadUi() expects passed filename to be a Python string, but QString is used in many places. Should that funcion argument be casted to unicode by the caller or in the loader.loadUi()?15:21
danttiapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/471123/15:21
apacheloggeryah, should be fine15:22
danttiapachelogger: what is sure is that aptBackend has so many bugs that I can't understand why you didn't use aptcc before15:22
apacheloggerbeats me15:22
* apachelogger did not care :P15:22
apacheloggerone can only worry about so many things... :/15:22
danttinot counting you can't find bug while compiling15:22
apacheloggerI think jon wants to go aptcc for maverick though15:23
apacheloggerespecially since the apt thingy is apparently completely broken righ tnow15:23
shadeslayermaco: my professors denied my request outright :P ( to postpone/prepone the exams by a week )15:23
apacheloggertuos: first I would like to know why pyqt all of a sudden uses QString15:24
apacheloggerbuilding pk takes quite some time -.-15:27
apacheloggerah, end is near \o/15:27
tuosapachelogger: Hmm, does it? If is used, there wasn't any problem. And now things are crashing because it expects Python strings but people are passing QString to it. At least this is the case with loadUi().15:29
apacheloggerno no15:29
apacheloggerpyqt originally did not use QString15:30
danttiapachelogger: I think the bug is in the packagekit something .py15:30
apacheloggerbecause python strings are essentially equal15:30
* Quintasan bought some tea15:30
apacheloggerso they were converting from/to QString on the fly15:30
Quintasanapachelogger: are builds rollin on as planned?15:30
apacheloggerbut now for some reason that does not work anymore15:30
apacheloggerand that is the real problem here15:30
apacheloggerbecause this can break billions of things15:31
tuosapachelogger: Ah, I see.15:31
apacheloggerQuintasan: dunno, I am debugging packagekit15:31
tuosA way lot nastier than I thought then..15:31
shadeslayerhmm.. no nixternal15:31
Quintasanoh, well, we are ahead of schedule anyways15:32
shadeslayercan someone poke him about bug 580571 if he comes around?15:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 580571 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu plymouth logo text is centered with gears sign factored into total width, placing 'kubuntu' text off-center" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58057115:32
QuintasanHow much time do we have till 4.5 release?15:32
shadeslayerdantti: bug 552709 << would that be upstream or a issue with us?15:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 552709 in kpackagekit (Ubuntu) "Software Management in Systemsettings (Kubuntu)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55270915:33
apacheloggertuos: QMap for example is also converted to python dicts (or used to be ^^)15:33
shadeslayerQuintasan: 5-6 days more15:33
Quintasanoh well15:34
QuintasanQA will be great this release15:34
shadeslayerhow come? :)15:34
shadeslayer( because of us? :P )15:35
Quintasanwe have most packages ready by now15:35
shadeslayerdude... GUADEC ... http://design.canonical.com/2010/07/this-week-in-design-30-july-2010/15:35
shadeslayeromg.. thats huge...15:35
Quintasantwo or three are in dep-wait15:35
Quintasanit can be ready tomorrow if we hurry15:36
freinhardhmm how do i make a debdiff for pulseaudio?15:36
shadeslayer!debdiff | freinhard15:36
ubottufreinhard: A simple way to patch Debian/Ubuntu packages is to attach a debdiff to a bug report, or send it to the team which handles the package. Learn more about it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/Debdiff15:36
freinhardshadeslayer: thx15:36
QuintasanI assume that we are backporting to Lucid15:36
QuintasanDid anyone start doing this or I shall?15:37
shadeslayerfeel free to do15:37
shadeslayerbut i would guess we should finish maverick first15:37
QuintasanI'll be at home within 20 minutes15:37
apacheloggeroh oh oh15:38
apacheloggerdantti: I think I know the cause...15:38
Quintasanshadeslayer: we are waiting fo kdebase-workspace anyways15:38
shadeslayerQuintasan: stalcup is doing that right?15:38
Quintasanbackporting kdelibs wont hurt15:38
danttiapachelogger: pk-backend-spwaw.c is a good file to have the bug too 15:38
shadeslayeri guess not15:38
Quintasanshadeslayer: yes, I do not thing that we should make him do it faster15:39
apacheloggeror maybe not15:39
shadeslayerQuintasan: i dont know.. remember what happened when you did that to me yesterday15:40
apacheloggerdantti: do you think the problem could be within aptBackend not translating the value properly15:40
danttiapachelogger: no15:40
apacheloggerthen I am lost ^^15:41
QuintasanI didnt tell you to break it :P15:41
Quintasanshadeslayer: 15:41
QuintasanDamn droid15:41
shadeslayerno .. you told me to go faster, which made me break it :P15:41
QuintasanSsh clients on droid are bad15:41
danttiapachelogger: now I'm bit lost too :P15:42
stalcupQuintasan: apachelogger: you all will have to pick it up, my computer is borked :(15:45
stalcupI just now made it onto IRC15:45
freinhardwhere's the echidnaman?15:45
danttishadeslayer: upstream bug, never tought of it, I'd like to know how to change the files without breaking translations now...15:46
shadeslayerdantti: can you comment on the bug?15:47
freinhardif somebody sees him: bug 563250 want's to be backported to lucid15:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 563250 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Lucid) "pulseaudio package does not include start-pulseaudio-kde" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56325015:47
stalcupgah!  I didn't backup, I've lost not only my pbuilders but ssh and gpg keys15:51
stalcupsilly silly silly steveire 15:51
apacheloggerfooey! :/15:51
stalcuper stalcup 15:51
danttiapachelogger: did you rebuild packagekit? can you try one change?15:52
apacheloggerdantti: yes, yes15:52
Quintasanstalcup: okay15:52
Quintasanno problems15:52
steveire:( I'm offended.15:53
stalcupsteveire: sorry!  tab-complete fail15:53
* apachelogger hugs steveire and hands him a cookie and a free gift basket15:53
apacheloggerstalcup: dont call users silly that is my job :P15:53
steveire\o/ Gifts!15:53
stalcuphehe, right15:53
danttiapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/471132/    in pk-backend.c lines 142615:53
Quintasanapachelogger: your job is to fix python15:54
Quintasanyour life-long job15:54
Quintasangod damn, why workspace is sooo big?15:54
stalcupall the basic apps maybe?15:55
apacheloggerdantti: s/type/state?15:55
danttiapachelogger: yup15:56
apacheloggerdantti: what I know by now is that pk_client_distro_upgrade_cb in pk-client also needs s/type/state which does not fix the issue, but hardcoding sensible values, so at least that function gets crap already15:56
danttithere is no type in PkDistroUpgrade 15:56
danttiapachelogger: client is client, which iirc will only affect pkcon15:56
apacheloggerglib warnings in the backend will not show up on terminal15:57
QuintasanBut they should show up15:58
apacheloggerwell, I agree15:58
* apachelogger thinks that considering this the fix at hand could very well fix the issue though15:58
danttiapachelogger: well maybe both are wrong15:58
apacheloggerdantti: they sure are15:58
danttiapachelogger: PackageKit 0.6 uses state and no type15:59
apacheloggerbut fixing that g_object_set in the backend could very well fix it and explain why the appropriate function in client.c gets empty values15:59
stalcupAH! solution!  16:01
* stalcup will do artwork16:01
danttiyup since the packagekitd --verbose prints that error16:01
apacheloggerdantti: that fixes it16:01
apacheloggernow to turn that into patches16:02
danttiapachelogger:  :D16:03
* stalcup notices he's still a ninja!16:03
apacheloggermy root account just uses ugly theme ^^16:03
* apachelogger was scared kpk started the GTK upgrader ^^16:03
apacheloggerdantti: all good16:03
danttiapachelogger: hmm another problem :P16:04
danttiapachelogger: does KPK 0.5 has the env var set?16:04
apacheloggerwell, it should16:04
apacheloggernow something crashed ^^16:04
apachelogger#4  0x024471cf in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents (this=0x9eef2a0, flags=...) at kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:41416:04
apacheloggerour pythonXdesktopTools and their use of processEvents16:05
apacheloggerit always fraks me out16:05
danttiapachelogger: is that packagekit related?16:05
danttigood 16:05
danttifor me at least16:05
apacheloggerdantti: well, I'll poke around a bit more and get a patch going for lucid16:05
apacheloggerthanks for the help :)16:05
apacheloggerdantti: "Distribution upgrade process exited with code 253." that is a bit of a silly message really16:06
apacheloggermaybe something like "Apparently the distro upgrade process did not exit properly... please do something..."16:06
apacheloggerthough really, I would not show anything at all, because if it crashed the distros hopefully have tools in place to catch the crash and make it visible to the user that the app just went down and if the user terminated the upgrader he will be aware of that anyway (hopefully ;))16:07
danttiapachelogger: btw did you see the new UI http://imagebin.ca/view/KvngI7E.html ?16:08
danttisure not a good string16:08
apacheloggerit is like the one I rant about when using windows ;)16:08
apacheloggerdantti: for the kpk upgrader?16:09
apacheloggernot bad16:09
danttiapachelogger: yup for kpk16:11
apacheloggerRiddell: when starting the KDE UI for the dist-upgrader I get the release notes ... if I click cancel there I get a crash ... not sure if it is related to pyqt/kde though16:11
apacheloggerdantti: I would get rid of the head bar in the view ^^16:11
danttiapachelogger: which one?16:12
apacheloggeroh, you use that for "select all"?16:12
apacheloggerdantti: Pacote16:12
danttiapachelogger: about the distro upgrade availables?16:12
danttithe list header?16:12
danttiyup that is select all and also for sorting16:13
apacheloggeryeah, makes sense16:13
apacheloggerit just seems a bit large IMHO16:13
apachelogger(probably because of the checkbox)16:13
danttiyup 16:13
danttiit can be a bit smaller16:13
apacheloggerdantti: I am not sure if having "check fore new updates" and "history" not look like buttons16:14
apacheloggeris a good thing16:15
danttithe problem is that the interface looks strange with so many buttons at the bottom16:15
apacheloggeryeah but making buttons not look like buttons is probably not the best solution to that :/16:16
danttiwell they are tool buttons16:17
apacheloggerhow about a nice toolbar ^^16:18
apacheloggeror a menu16:18
stalcupholy moses, artworks tar is 100+mb!16:18
apacheloggerdantti: or just nuke "help" and "defaults"16:18
apacheloggerespecially defaults is somewhat useless in this context16:19
danttiapachelogger: help should have help :P16:19
danttiie I should write docs16:19
apacheloggeryou should :P16:19
apacheloggerbut OTOH the user should just click apply16:19
apacheloggerdantti: that should be labeld Install Updates IMHO16:20
ScottKWhat's release day for 4.5.0?16:20
danttiapachelogger: I can't change that label16:21
danttiapachelogger: Actually I can if I do not use KCMultiDialog but then I'll start doing too many hacks16:21
* dantti out for lunch16:22
apacheloggerdantti: if I am not mistaken kcmultidialog derives from kpagedialog which derives from kdialog and in a kdialog you surely can change the button labels16:23
apacheloggerdantti: QString KDialog::buttonText   (  ButtonCode   id    )    const16:24
apacheloggerthat should be available in kcmmultidialog too16:24
* apachelogger goes digging16:24
apacheloggerhai, from looking at the headers that should be entirely doable16:25
ScottKdyfet: Here's the build log: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebindings/4:4.4.95-0ubuntu1/+build/1891107/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.kdebindings_4:4.4.95-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz16:28
dyfetThis touches upon several odd things in arm :)16:29
ScottKYes.  Thus the request for help.16:30
dyfetIt does not realize that the node is a pointer to double until it is assigned, and doubles have different alignment requirements...hmm...I suppose, though it is a bit crude, a reinterpret_cast could be used...16:31
dyfetThis assumes that the original pointer really was aligned correctly in other use cases, of course...16:32
ScottKYou've got access to the armel PPA, so you can test your fix, right?16:32
dyfetJust the regular ports archive, not any armel ppa's...16:32
ScottKOK.  You have hardware?16:33
ScottKExcellent.  That puts you way ahead of the rest of us.16:33
dyfetThis could be a qt patch, though...16:34
apacheloggerdantti: actually Riddell add some patch for packagekit to work better for kubuntu upgrades...16:35
ScottKDoes that mean the Qt armel stuff that has build it misbuilt?16:35
apacheloggerdantti: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~packagekit/packagekit/ubuntu-lucid/annotate/head:/debian/patches/fix_upgrade_distro.diff would be super if you could see that this ends up in upstream too, if it didnt yet16:36
dyfetScootK: No.  It more means that QT templates were not designed for an architecture where pointers to different data types can have different alignment requirements and a compiler that cares ;).16:37
ScottKRight, well we're stuck with binary compatibility until Qt 5, so you just have to drive around it.16:38
dyfetWell, doubles are the biggest problem in this regard...but templates are built like inlines, so we can change the templates without breaking linking abi16:39
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates16:39
apacheloggerlaunchpad just lost my bug report Oo16:52
shadeslayerQuintasan: dude do you know the bug number for the bzr-svn import crash?16:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: go to bugs.launchpad.net and see the latest bugs filed16:53
apacheloggerIT IS LOST16:53
shadeslayer( if you just filed the bug )16:53
apacheloggerIT IS FUCKING LOST16:53
Quintasanshadeslayer: nah16:54
Quintasanyofel: ^^^16:54
shadeslayerwe should have subscribed to it :P16:54
* apachelogger needs to switch to other music or he might go to other channels and violate the coc16:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 579491 in Bazaar Subversion Plugin "iter_changes on caching logwalker supports only one prefix" [Undecided,Triaged]16:55
Quintasanshadeslayer: 16:56
ScottKapachelogger: Launchpad isn't part of Ubuntu, I don't think the Ubuntu CoC applies on #launchpad or #launchpad-dev.16:58
ScottK(I'd have been in trouble several times if it did)16:59
shadeslayerhehe :P16:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: im officially without a microblogging client now, !choqok from SVN is all broke16:59
shadeslayeri cant add accounts :S17:00
shadeslayeroh its frickin OAuth17:00
apacheloggermaybe I broke it17:01
* apachelogger added a couple of patches the other day17:01
ScottKTm_T: Which release are you running on your powerpc box?17:01
apachelogger!info qoauth maverick17:02
ubottuPackage qoauth does not exist in maverick17:02
apachelogger!info libqoauth-dev maverick17:02
ubottulibqoauth-dev (source: qoauth): Qt-based client implementation of the OAuth authorization scheme. In component main, is extra. Version 1.0-2ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 31 kB, installed size 160 kB17:02
shadeslayer^ i requested a sync of that17:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: check if libqoauth1 1.0-2ubuntu1 works17:02
shadeslayerah version downgrade?17:03
shadeslayerlets test with muon :D17:03
shadeslayerlol... muon hangs with slightest mention of lib :P17:04
apachelogger"This file does not look like a patch. "17:05
apacheloggerall hail the launchpad17:05
apacheloggerdiff -u packagekit-0.5.7/debian/changelog packagekit-0.5.7/debian/changelog17:05
apachelogger--- packagekit-0.5.7/debian/changelog17:05
apachelogger+++ packagekit-0.5.7/debian/changelog17:05
apacheloggerdoesnt look like a patch17:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: E: Version '1.0-2ubuntu1' for 'libqoauth1' was not found17:06
apacheloggershadeslayer: you need to get it from launchpad17:06
apacheloggeronce a packcage is superseded it is superseded17:06
apacheloggerthen either you have a local copy lying around or you need to get it from lp17:06
shadeslayerit was working till the upgrade and recompile btw17:07
apacheloggerwell, I just want to be sure that it is not qoauth that broke :P17:07
apacheloggerthough it really should not since I only fixed 2 very apparent bugs, but of course if choqok did weird things to work around the bugs that might have broken ^^17:08
shadeslayerlets find out17:11
apacheloggerwell then17:12
apacheloggerI am going to upgrade now17:12
apacheloggertook me only a couple of hours to get to this point :P17:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: upgrade to what?17:15
shadeslayeroh your on lucid?17:15
ScottKkcollectd needs porting to the new docbook.17:15
shadeslayerScottK: lots of stuff needs that17:15
ScottKGet busy.17:16
shadeslayerim yet to hear from kdiff3 people17:16
shadeslayerScottK: kdeedu needs love first17:16
shadeslayerand EBN is down .. i need EBN to work17:16
ScottKIs there no multi-tasking?17:16
shadeslayerdude... i have no hardware to multi task17:17
shadeslayerim building choqok on one hand and unpacking build deps for kdeedu in a chroot17:17
shadeslayerand i can barely type on quassel :P17:17
apacheloggerand now the upgrader stopped working17:17
apacheloggerholy french fries17:18
apacheloggerScottK: what is kcollectd?17:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: you broke qoauth.. why oh why17:19
apacheloggerdoes ubuntu1 work?17:19
apacheloggerqoauth is teh shitz17:19
shadeslayerkdeedu building \o/17:22
shadeslayerlets see how far it goes17:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: what error do you get?17:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: with choqok?17:22
shadeslayerserver time out17:22
apachelogger        case QOAuth::Timeout:17:23
apachelogger            return i18n("Timeout on server");17:23
shadeslayerand http://imagebin.ca/view/Gvg5tX.html << i got this too, ( some other guys screenie )17:23
apacheloggerhow can that be caused by my changes :O17:23
shadeslayerapachelogger: yep17:23
shadeslayerdid you introduce kio changes?17:23
apacheloggerI fix a bug17:24
apacheloggerwell two of them17:24
apacheloggershadeslayer: so you cannot authenticate with identi.ca, right?17:25
shadeslayerand twitter17:25
apacheloggerwell, I can only review one code block at a time :P17:26
apacheloggerholy muon17:26
apachelogger    QOAuth::ParamMap reply =17:26
apachelogger        qoauth->requestToken( oauthReqTokenUrl, QOAuth::GET, QOAuth::HMAC_SHA1 );17:26
Quintasancp -a debian/tmp/usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/Default/800x600/background.png debian/kdebase-workspace-wallpapers//usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/Default/800x600/17:26
Quintasancp: not writing through dangling symlink `debian/kdebase-workspace-wallpapers//usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/Default/800x600/background.png'17:26
apacheloggerI really think someone should tell mtux that HMAC_SHA1 is not supported :P17:26
Quintasandh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/Default/800x600/background.png debian/kdebase-workspace-wallpapers//usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/Default/800x600/ returned exit code 117:26
Quintasanapachelogger: what the heck is this?17:26
apacheloggerI think17:26
apacheloggerQuintasan: it is when cp fails17:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: maybe you can poke him on identi.ca ?17:27
apacheloggerQuintasan: for example when the parent directory is not here I suppose17:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: haha :p17:27
apacheloggershadeslayer: yeah17:27
apacheloggerI think that is only conditional anyway17:27
Quintasanapachelogger: dh_install --list-missing does that17:27
QuintasanI wonder why17:27
apacheloggerdepends on whether QCA supports it17:27
apacheloggerwhich is not necessarily the case17:27
* apachelogger doesnt really have the QCA code in question in his short time memory righ tnow ;)17:28
apacheloggerQuintasan: because the file is missing?17:28
shadeslayerso basically .. you broke qoauth and i cant use choqok now ;D17:28
apacheloggerusing hmac sha1 renders one of my patches already unaffected17:28
apacheloggerbecause that changes how plaintext signatures work17:28
* shadeslayer pokes shtylman with startkde script17:29
apacheloggershadeslayer: can you please upgrade to ubuntu2 again17:30
apacheloggerand check it was not really a timeout17:30
shadeslayeralright :P17:30
shadeslayeraltho i doubt that ^_^17:30
apacheloggerI do not17:30
apacheloggerbecause there are 2 points where a timeout error can get set17:31
apacheloggerof which both are long before the other patch takes any action17:31
ScottKapachelogger: broken package.  That's all I know.17:36
apacheloggershadeslayer: well, that is all I can say, whatever is causing the timeout it is neither of my patches17:37
apacheloggerScottK: that is a lot  ;)17:37
shadeslayerapachelogger: want me to run it with gdb?17:37
apacheloggerso ubuntu2 is not working?17:37
apacheloggerif you think it makes sense to run it wih gdb then feel free to ;)17:38
shadeslayerdoesnt work with ubuntu2 :P17:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://imgur.com/yrP3N17:38
apacheloggercan I get debug output with that?17:39
shadeslayernot much to look at http://pastebin.com/TnqR8xtG17:39
apacheloggerkdebugdialog is all turned on?17:39
shadeslayerits not 0_o17:40
shadeslayerwhich was weird : http://pastebin.com/qgzSpUrQ17:41
* apachelogger fires up the netbook17:41
Quintasanshadeslayer: what about kdelibs?17:42
shadeslayerwhat about it?17:42
Quintasanimport I mean17:42
shadeslayerQuintasan: <jelmer> shadeslayer: Not yet, still work in progress. I might have some more time for it tonight or some evening next week.17:42
Quintasannot much I can do about it17:42
shadeslayerQuintasan: help me with fix0ring startkde script :P17:43
QuintasanI have my hands full with workspace17:43
Quintasan+ I have to go out in  few minutes :/17:44
shadeslayerah ok17:44
Quintasangreat :/17:45
shadeslayerQuintasan: hes having a brain wave17:46
shadeslayeror hes lost...17:47
shadeslayerLOST i tell you17:47
QuintasanHe was doomed when he had his first encounter with computers to begin with17:47
shadeslayerno.. the other way around ^17:47
QuintasanActually, it works both ways17:48
* shadeslayer hits Quintasan with banhammer 17:49
shtylmanshadeslayer: whats up17:49
QuintasanYou do not have a banhammer17:49
shadeslayerQuintasan: i do.. you just dont know it yet17:50
shadeslayershtylman: \o17:50
* Quintasan retaliates with a Stick of Doom17:50
shadeslayerfree ?17:50
* shadeslayer snaps Quintasan's stick of Doom into two17:50
apacheloggershadeslayer: fix on the way17:50
shtylmannot at the moment :)17:50
shadeslayerapachelogger: awesome :D17:50
* Quintasan gets a new out17:50
QuintasanIt's a root this time17:50
apachelogger  Uploading qoauth_1.0-2ubuntu3_source.changes: done.17:51
apacheloggerSuccessfully uploaded packages.17:51
shadeslayershtylman: ok poke me sometime and we shall h4xoor away on startkde17:51
shadeslayerapachelogger: fixed your patch?17:51
Quintasansudo rm -rf /home/shadeslayer17:51
shadeslayerdid the patch fix you? :P17:51
apacheloggerremoved it 17:51
shadeslayerQuintasan: hah! your not in sudoers file :P17:51
QuintasanI am17:51
shadeslayer^ oh goody17:51
apacheloggerwasnt necessary anymore since another approach was used than back when I created that patch ages ago17:51
QuintasanYou just don't know that yet :P17:52
* Quintasan heads out17:52
* apachelogger thinks u1 kde should be switched away from plaintext anyway17:54
apacheloggerthat is if the madness of ubuntuone server supports that17:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: do you want a ruby bot in here?18:00
shadeslayeri can bring one in for some time18:00
danttiapachelogger: that patch is applied to PackageKit 0.618:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: can you release new digikam from bzr? ( the rebuild failiure fix )18:14
shadeslayeror is it not needed18:14
apacheloggerdantti: ok, cool18:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: no, I am upgrading right now18:17
apacheloggeralso I do not think it is worth an upload18:17
shadeslayeralright 18:17
shadeslayeralso no compression is awesome18:19
shadeslayerkdeedu done :D18:19
shadeslayerryanakca: uh... are we getting new wiki theme too ?? ^_^18:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: any news on kdebindings ?18:22
shadeslayeri haz to wait on bindings 18:22
eMylleranyone here have played with python + webkit?18:22
eMylleri need an urgent help :|18:22
MIH1406I have Kubuntu 10.04 and I want to make it ready for development18:26
MIH1406what are the packages?18:26
MIH1406C++ Qt and KDE18:26
eMyllerMIH1406: build-essential and kde-devel18:26
shadeslayerMIH1406: libqt4-dev build-essential and ^18:26
eMylleroh yea, that18:27
shadeslayeranyone messing around with KMess ?18:28
dyfetScottK: looking at the the particular use case, it may be safe to simply add -Wno-cast-align to kdebindings cflags in the deb...but the real issue is that in sipkdeuipart3 is mismatched because QReal is different on arm...this may lend itself to a simple patch...18:34
ScottKdyfet: I'm in favor of a patch if you can figure one.18:34
dyfetsince this is "sip" code, it may be trickier to patch...18:35
shadeslayerkdeedu in bzr.. waiting for kdebindings18:38
dyfetScottk: the interface code sip generates is wrong...because it assumes QReal is interchangable with double...and this is not true on ARM...18:38
shadeslayerand now to format my system :D18:38
ScottKdyfet: So it needs fixing in sip-qt4?18:40
dyfetScottK: I am right now seeing if we can play with the kdeui .sip files to see if we can at all squash it there, but yes, ultimately it is a sip-qt4 issue18:41
ScottKI suppose fixing it there is non-trivial?18:41
dyfetLet's document what we have learned first...but I never have played with the python sip stuff18:43
ScottKNo time like the present to learn ....18:44
dyfetIs this actually python-qt4-dev?18:47
shadeslayer_anything that needs to be tested on live CD?18:51
shadeslayer_( the latest one )18:51
danttiScottK, apachelogger, Riddell I'd like to propose you to remove a patch from KPK settings and I'd add a button to edit software sources this way the UI gets "normal"18:57
ScottKdantti: I'd like to hear what Jon Thomas has to say on it.  I think he's the Kubuntu dev that's closest to the question..18:58
* apachelogger thinks that someone should just use the pythonc api and embedd software-properties proper19:01
macoRiddell wont see pings from today when he gets back sunday anyway. he only has 24h scrollback19:09
apacheloggerwhat this world needs is more quassel ;)19:27
shadeslayerwe need quassel.kubuntu.org :P19:42
shadeslayerQuintasan: im on ext4 now.. much better19:43
apacheloggerthat is so not gonna happen19:45
apacheloggershadeslayer: you could suggest this to ubuntuwire19:45
shadeslayeri still cant cause rekonq to crash btw19:45
apacheloggerits not exactly much maintenance I suppose and you do not need shell access like with irssi19:46
apacheloggeralso since we also have qt-only clients it is also usable for gnomeies without having half a kde stack dragged in19:46
shadeslayerapachelogger: rekonq crashed19:48
macoshadeslayer: its not exactly hard...19:51
shadeslayerhehe :P19:51
macojust about every time i click a link in choqok, rekonq crashes19:51
macoand now....it got into a state where every time i try to launch it, it crashes19:51
shadeslayerits not _that_ frequent for me19:51
macoif i copy the link from choqok, open a tab in rekonq, and paste it, its (usually) ok19:52
macoand if rekonq's not running when i click the link its (usually) ok19:52
macobut if it has to open a tab because i clicked a link elsewhere, the world ends19:52
shadeslayerqt 4.7 doesnt like rekonq 19:52
shadeslayer@         WARNING: UNPROTECTED PRIVATE KEY FILE!          @19:56
shadeslayerwhat permissions do you have on your private key file?19:57
shadeslayerah nvm.. just googled the error :P19:59
Quintasanshadeslayer: great20:19
QuintasanUploading kdebase-workspace_4.5.0.orig.tar.bz2: 20684k/64161k[Errno 110] Connection timed out20:19
QuintasanI knew it would happen20:19
Quintasanapachelogger: I will push my changes to bzr, can you upload?20:21
danttishadeslayer: about that KPackageKit bug I have just fixed for 0.6.120:21
apacheloggerpkg-kde-tools bug20:21
apacheloggerlogic is a biatch I tell you20:22
shadeslayerdantti: awesome20:22
shadeslayerdantti: im setting it as closed20:23
shadeslayerdude.. ext4++20:23
danttishadeslayer: nice, just commited20:23
apacheloggermy i386 change is the crap20:24
apacheloggershadeslayer: you are comparing two non-comparable things here20:24
shadeslayerapachelogger: whut?20:24
apacheloggerbrtfs & ext420:24
shadeslayerah 20:24
shadeslayerbut in terms of speed.. ext4 wins20:25
apacheloggerno no no20:25
apacheloggerunless you are using SSD you shouldnt be usin brtfs anyway20:25
apacheloggerbecause it was designed not only but partially for a SSD use case20:25
shadeslayerdidnt know that ^20:25
apacheloggerso using it on a HDD will generally perform worse than ext4 which was designed not only but partially for HDDs20:26
shadeslayerdantti: have you released 0.6.1?20:26
apacheloggerin either case brtfs is still young and seeing a lot of changes, so even the speed advantage of ext4 on HDDs might be related to things other than the systems themselfves20:27
danttishadeslayer: no, I'm fixing the ui probably I'mm do that on sunday or monday morning to get it into kubuntu's alpha20:27
* apachelogger needs to stress his grey cells a bit20:27
* apachelogger is srsly wondering where jon is20:27
shadeslayerdantti: ah ok20:28
apacheloggerQuintasan: your changelog entries needs merging with the previous one20:29
* apachelogger thinks dch should throw warnings when one tries to increase the version while a UNRELEASED entry is pending20:29
Quintasanapachelogger: can you merge it? I have to go in a second again20:42
apacheloggerQuintasan: cando20:42
Tm_TScottK: Lucid20:44
CIA-98[kdebase-workspace] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100730194410-9xyxvpskt6os447q * debian/changelog merge unreleased entries20:44
* Tm_T pokes tuos and taavikko with polehead of finnish flag20:46
ScottKTm_T: Since nixternal isn't around so much I lost access to his powerpc box.  If I build a clamav package for Lucid in a PPA, could you run a quick test?20:47
ScottKIt's just running clamscan and seeing if it segfaults.20:47
Tm_TrScottK: sure20:49
ScottKTm_T: Thanks.  I'll ping you when it's built.20:50
ScottKActually PPA won't work.20:50
ScottK(no ppc)20:50
ScottKTm_T: I'll test it first and then put it in backports.20:50
apacheloggerthat change I am working on for pkg-kde-tools is pretty much suicidal20:54
* apachelogger thinks pkg-kde-tools could use some autotesting 20:57
apacheloggercant install kdelibs5-dev20:58
apacheloggerso I have a change that fixes stuff21:02
apacheloggerOTOH it is likely to fall apart completely 21:02
apacheloggerOTOH I cannot really test this and not uploading would require rebuilding stuff later on21:02
apacheloggerI am upping this baby21:06
apacheloggerbetter to have it fixed proper once and for all21:06
apacheloggerI cannot even testbuild crap 21:08
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Quintasanir's your fault apachelogger 21:31
QuintasanWhen things break it's usually apachelogger 21:31
apacheloggerbecause I have the balls to make scary changes :P21:31
Quintasan>because I do not testbuilt21:32
Quintasan>because I do not testbuild*21:32
QuintasanThere, I fixed you statement Sir.21:32
apacheloggerscope violation clearly21:33
apacheloggerthy shalt not talk with the voice of angles!21:33
apacheloggerwell hen21:33
apacheloggerI think pkg-kde-tools is not breaking in >25% of cases21:34
apacheloggertime to upload21:34
apacheloggermy chromes is broken :(21:35
ulyssesHaha, I found two typo in Muon's translation!22:30
* ryanakca swears loudly at accidently deleting his ~/.kde :/22:31
Quintasankdebase uploading23:58
Quintasanmoving to kdesdk23:58

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