[00:01] Quintasan: built from svn? [00:01] please tell me which -dev packages i have to install [00:02] i can't download anything extra, i'm on a limited broadband :\ [00:02] [ noob question; how do i know from which repo a package come? ] [00:06] [ nvm ] [00:10] hi [00:10] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.5 disappeared? [00:41] uploaded [00:42] with QWebView in pyqt.. how can I get any error messages? [00:45] hgnh [00:45] rejected [01:15] apachelogger: do you have kdegraphics ready? [01:17] hey guys, someone already packaged bluedevil? [01:17] rbelem: it's being packaged in Debian AFAIK [01:17] We will sync it :P [01:18] cool :-) [01:21] Quintasan, do you know where can i get the source package? [01:24] rbelem: I do belive it is in GIT repo [01:28] rbelem: http://www.afiestas.org/bluedevil-the-new-kde-bluetooth-stack-is-here/ [01:32] rbelem: and http://www.gitorious.org/libbluedevil [01:32] thanks Quintasan :-) [01:32] you'd be interested it the lib too [01:33] * rbelem is now building bluedevil pkg [01:33] :-D [01:36] whom do we ping to fix the kubuntu.org's typo in the site's title? [01:39] ofir or sheytan [01:39] eMyller also I think [01:44] I'll consider them pinged :) [01:48] * rbelem is now using bluedevil :-D [01:50] Quintasan: sheytan is off, i don't have access to the site content and i don't see ofirk for quite a long time... maybe Riddell? [01:55] Riddell is away till sunday I'm afraid [03:00] wtf [03:00] all my builders are acting up now [03:08] cowbuilder, go to hell === DWonderly is now known as DarkwingDuck [03:15] * Quintasan thinks sbuilder needs more love [03:15] ryanakca: are you using sbuild? [03:18] Quintasan: Yes [03:18] Need something built? [03:20] ryanakca: nope, I have two questions [03:21] first of all, how do you increase the space available to process during the build? [03:21] and secondly, where on earth the sbuild stores downloaded debs? [03:22] Quintasan: Available space, as in HD space? I use a LV for my schroot and the build just creates a snapshot of it. I believe there's an option in /etc/schroot/schroot.conf to change the size of the lv snapshot [03:23] ryanakca: I'm not using it with lvm [03:23] As for the downloaded debs, it doesn't store them anywheres, they get lost after the build when it destroys the snapshot. I run an apt-cacher to save on bandwidth [03:23] (approx and apt-cacher-ng both work well, at the moment I'm using apt-cacher-ng) [03:23] ryanakca: oh, that would be nice, care to link me to detalis how to configure that? [03:26] sudo apt-get install apt-cacher-ng && sudo vi /etc/apt-cacher-ng/acng.conf ... you should a line that looks like "Remap-ubuntu: file:ubuntu_mirrors /ubuntu ; file:backends_ubuntu" [03:26] approx is easier to configure though, but it doesn't provide shiny graphs of how much bandwidth you're saving [03:27] then just change the line in you chroot's sources.list from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu to http://127.0.0.1/ubuntu [03:27] (approx.conf is just filled with lines like "ubuntu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" which creates the cache http://127.0.0.1/ubuntu ) [03:30] hmm [03:30] ryanakca: in chroot's sources.list [03:30] deb-src http://127.0.0.1/ubuntu maverick-security main restricted universe multiverse [03:30] like that? [03:31] Ah, which are you using? [03:31] You'll need to create another entry for security.ubuntu.com [03:31] apt-cacher-ng [03:31] there is also -updates [03:31] Add the following line to acng.conf: [03:31] Remap-ubuntu-security: /ubuntu-security ; http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [03:33] maverick-updates is under archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu , correct? If so, just add 'deb http://127.0.0.1/ubuntu maverick-updates main blah blah....' to sources.list [03:33] great [03:33] should apt-get update work or not? [03:33] Yep [03:34] Remember to get rid of the old archive.u.c lines in sources.list [03:34] Also, don't forget to restart apt-cacher-ng after adding the new remaps [03:34] gah, it fails to connect :/ [03:34] restarted it [03:34] hmm [03:34] Hmmm. s/127.0.0.1/localhost/ maybe? [03:34] Not sure why it isn't working. [03:36] well [03:36] it tries to connnect on 80 [03:36] Port:3142 [03:36] Oh, silly me. [03:36] in acng.conf [03:36] you want http://127.0.0.1:3142/ubuntu and http://127.0.0.1:3142/ubuntu-security [03:37] great [03:37] thanks [03:37] Now I wonder about space [03:38] kdepimlibs failed due to not enoguh space :< [03:38] * Quintasan really needs to do LVM [03:38] * ryanakca nods, much nicer. There's even a mk-sbuild-lv script in ubuntu-dev-tools :) [03:39] I though I would get most of kde 4.5 done by now but the damn build tools had to start acting up [03:39] In any case, try 'man schroot.conf', schroot.conf can be found at /etc/apt/sources.list [03:40] * ryanakca => bed [03:40] Good luck :) [03:41] thanks [09:11] oh ma [09:11] I slept 3 hours [09:15] not too much, isn't it? [09:18] no [09:19] :D [09:19] * Quintasan goes skateboarding after uploading [09:42] moin [09:42] is there a ppa containing git 1.7.2 somewhere around? [09:50] shadeslayer: huh, what where ? [10:23] uhm [10:23] fregl: ahoy [10:24] fregl: 1.7.2 is not even in debian it seems [10:24] hey apachelogger :) [10:24] apachelogger: yeah, I found some ppa [10:24] oh, ok [10:24] if it really fixes crlf problems, I'm sold on 1.7.2 ... [10:27] Quintasan: did the colors on the packaging page break? [10:59] Quintasan: Get it working? [11:03] Riddell: still no progress on desktopcouch or syncdaemon -.- [11:49] [kdebase-runtime] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100730104859-gs3vhpdu9sc9n261 * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) * Add kubuntu_91_phonon_forget_option.diff from openSUSE to allow users with * New upstream release - Refresh kubuntu_89_strigi_ram_detection.diff [11:51] apachelogger: someone did remove it [11:51] apachelogger: I want to do the rest by myself, any problems with that? [11:51] Quintasan: all of it? Oo [11:51] ryanakca: yes, I wanted to know if there is a way to make it cache packages from ninja ppa [11:51] or just the parent stack? [11:52] apachelogger: all of it [11:52] unless you have some packages ready [11:52] well, kdegraphics is building and kdebase-runtime ready for building [11:52] Quintasan: do you really think doing all of it is going to be very fast? ^^ [11:53] I think I can manage it within two hours [11:53] To make it build at least [11:53] the QA will sure take time [11:53] including testbuilding? Oo [11:53] well, kdebindings may be a problem [11:54] see :P [11:54] but if I leave it while I'm out it should be ready by the time I'm back [11:54] Quintasan: well, what we can do... you prepare the packages and push to bzr then whoever has resources can come and pick a testbuild [11:54] great [11:54] should be even faster [11:54] I'll testbuild and upload what I can [11:55] stalcup: how's workspace going? [11:55] * apachelogger needs to upgrade to maverick so he can make u1 kde work ... [11:56] OTOH upgrading will almost certainly break all sorts of things ^^ [11:57] I think I will prepare my ninja dir to work like pbuilder [11:58] cowbuilder [11:58] Quintasan: huh? [11:58] cp -rf ninja 4.5-release [11:59] and download all bzr branches to apopriate dirs [11:59] something like that [11:59] I need to plan this in detail later [12:00] shadeslayer: so here is my prefferred workflow for fixing patch rejects .... a) bzr-buildpackage -e (that ditches you a proper source tree in ../build-area) b) try quilt push (the build process uses a super restrictive setting which makes things fail that quilt would usually be able to fix), if that works -> quilt refresh the patch in question and copy back to bzr 3) if this also yiels failure -> quilt push -f (this will drop reject files) [12:00] 4) manually apply the rejects to the files and quilt refresh -> copy refreshed patch to bzr [12:00] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=3&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 3 | Source imported [12:00] should be documented in teh wiki very much I suppose ^^ [12:00] Quintasan: gypsy did that ;) [12:00] just that it outdated and also I did not like its design anymore [12:01] * apachelogger became from a procedural fanboi a oop fanboi [12:01] I know that already [12:01] scary if you think about it [12:01] :P [12:02] * apachelogger is wondering why kdegraphics takes so long to buid [12:02] *build [12:03] ryanakca: cause ninja uses https and apt-cacher-ng throw error that https is invalid url :< [12:03] apt-cacher? [12:03] what use would that have? [12:03] sbuild [12:03] stuff gets stored in aptcache anyway? [12:04] I need to ask sbuild guys why it won't use aptcache [12:04] * apachelogger is wondering what the s stands for :P [12:04] beats me [12:04] sucky builder? :P [12:04] *shrug* [12:04] * apachelogger is wondering what the p in pbuilder stands for [12:05] hmm [12:05] * apachelogger is wondering what the cow in cowbuilder stands for [12:05] pussy builde [12:05] r [12:05] package builder [12:05] cow = copy-on-write [12:05] I made a cow this morning [12:05] apachelogger: ^^ [12:05] and then I made a bash alias [12:05] and the alias is called milk-maverick ;) [12:05] lol [12:05] Quintasan: oh, that makes sense [12:06] man cowbuilder [12:06] :P [12:06] man-- [12:06] yay for sbuild [12:06] * apachelogger needs terminator! [12:06] but more yay for pbuilder [12:06] konsole tabs are way to space inefficient [12:06] wth is terminator? [12:06] !info terminator [12:06] terminator (source: terminator): multiple GNOME terminals in one window. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.93-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 185 kB, installed size 1668 kB [12:06] >GNOME [12:07] actually konsole has that for ages [12:07] Are you making fun of me apachelogger ? [12:07] just in a static sucky manner [12:07] Quintasan: no, I am making fun of ocanonical trying to save their arse from eternal damnation from not contributing to gnome :P [12:08] They would be better of using Qt [12:08] *canonical even [12:08] OTOH I am also making fun of GNOME for not incorporating stuff from canonical [12:10] [kdegraphics] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100730111019-hhc1fo7an1phzixa * debian/libokularcore1.install bump libocular version ... no clue where I changed that earlier [12:13] Quintasan: I've struggled with that too, I don't think there's an apt-cacher that supports https :( [12:13] Quintasan: Feel free to add support for one though :D [12:13] * Quintasan whis he was skilled enough to pull that off [12:14] Uploading kdegraphics_4.5.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1_source.changes: done. [12:14] Successfully uploaded packages. [12:15] Quintasan: testbuilding runtime [12:16] * apachelogger is wondering why he did not have that idea with installing kdelibs5-dev in the chroot earlier [12:17] great [12:17] kdeadmin uploaded [12:18] aha! [12:18] jr broke the wiki page :P [12:19] http://www.cleanternet.org/ [12:19] what on earth... [12:20] * apachelogger is wondering who is responsible for layout in moinmoin development [12:24] wow [12:25] "|| <#ffff00>" is invalid but "||<#ffff00>" is valid [12:25] that is one terrific markup parser [12:25] python-- [12:25] I: copying [./kde] [12:25] wht the fck [12:25] cp: cannot stat `./kde': No such file or directory [12:25] :O [12:26] huh? [12:26] Quintasan: where is that from? [12:26] I'm trying to build kdeaccessibilty [12:27] log? [12:27] retrying [12:27] will paste in a second [12:28] * apachelogger tries finding breakfast meanwhile [12:29] oh well, I used pbdebuild instead of --build *.dsc file and it worke [12:29] d [12:40] sorry for the fscked up builds [12:41] * shadeslayer goes to hidey holw [12:41] it was just aspell [12:41] shadeslayer: you should've check not-installed :P [12:41] i did [12:41] it wasnt there [12:42] also.. i did apt-get build-dep kdelibs in a clean chroot.. i have no idea how aspell got pulled [12:43] anyone could please confirm https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42156 ? [12:43] bugs.webkit.org bug 42156 in WebKit Qt "Qt WebKit doesn't play nice with some CSS3 rendering" [Major,Unconfirmed] [12:44] and if anyone can comment on bug 527896 [12:44] Launchpad bug 527896 in wicd (Ubuntu) "missing info about conflict with network-manager package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527896 [12:44] do we need a conflict? [12:44] eMyller: looks like it's occuring [12:44] eMyller: let me just reinstall rekonq with purging [12:45] everything builds just fine [12:45] apachelogger: faster than I expected [12:45] I will push to bzr later after I have everything built [12:46] do you need kdebase done? [12:47] apachelogger: ive copied over your method to a online doc :P [12:47] in which i keep all of such stugg [12:47] ****stuff [12:47] :S [12:47] shadeslayer: I will do it, waiting for stalcup to finish workspace [12:47] ok ill take up whats left then [12:48] plasma-addons :D [12:48] Quintasan: it was confirmed by one qtwebkit dude. shadow blur isn't working yet, but is WIP. [12:49] oh wait.. i have to format this system [12:49] uh oh.. usb creator is broken [12:51] shadeslayer: you there ? [12:51] yep [12:51] pm ? [12:51] sure [12:55] apachelogger: \o/ [12:56] apachelogger: are you working on bindings? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:59] no [12:59] I am runtiming [13:00] i think the fonts just got a ubuntu fonts got a bold version [13:00] that came out all wrong :P [13:05] A-H-A [13:05] is there anything done for integrating thunderbird with plasma-widget-message-indicator? [13:06] now I know why libkdeinit4 stuff yields false positives with list-missing! [13:06] the pkg-kde-tools packaging foo apparently moves them to a kde specific directory [13:06] great [13:07] which leads to problems because list-missing does compare actual file presence (which is also the case why manpages fail ... since those get compressed) [13:07] well, we can easily enough work around this once I made a custom list-missing implementation [13:07] we just need to expand the usr/lib/ path to the kde specific one for libkdeini4_ [13:07] apachelogger: check the packaging wiki [13:07] shadeslayer: did you update kdelibs in bzr? [13:07] what is there? [13:07] Quintasan: no [13:08] shadeslayer: remove the aspell crap and it is ready to go [13:08] ok... [13:08] apachelogger: progress :P [13:08] ill do kdeedu [13:08] [kdebase-runtime] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100730120829-y8a93pg5x5es21pa * debian/kdebase-runtime-data.install remove files [13:08] is kdegames big? [13:08] very [13:08] kdeedu too [13:09] Quintasan: also i made some changes to games in bzr.. you might want to keep those.. [13:09] Quintasan: kdegames is a lot of code bundled with a lot of artwork [13:09] I won't do it [13:09] ( fixed a bug in the depends of kajongg ) [13:09] I will not be able to upload it [13:10] kajonng is broken anyways shadeslayer [13:10] fine ill take it up after kdedu [13:10] You can't host local game [13:10] Quintasan: whats broken? [13:10] ah coding problem then [13:10] can someone confirm bug 611677 ? [13:10] Launchpad bug 611677 in kdeadmin (Ubuntu) "system-config-printer-kde crashes with AttributeError: 'QString' object has no attribute 'rfind'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611677 [13:10] (maverick) [13:10] ^ i get that in usb-creator as well [13:11] python-- [13:11] pyqt then I guess [13:11] python--------- [13:11] ~karma python [13:11] yofel: no bot [13:11] :( [13:11] the bot is the lost [13:11] apachelogger broke it [13:11] actually [13:11] jussi did :P [13:11] gah, routing problems with Riddell's machine [13:11] I wanted to do bindings as well [13:12] * Quintasan woes on his crappy upload [13:12] +1 [13:13] oh kdewebdev left [13:13] I'm taking it [13:13] :P [13:14] * apachelogger was just about to say that :( [13:14] Uploading kdebase-runtime_4.5.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1_source.changes: done. [13:14] Successfully uploaded packages. [13:14] great [13:14] now just poke stalcup with a stick [13:16] * apachelogger takes a sonic pointy screw driver of doom and tickles stalcup [13:17] * apachelogger is wondering since when pyqt has QString proper [13:18] didnt it always convert QString to python str since they pretty much provide the same functionalities? [13:18] Quintasan: anything I can do? [13:18] sit back and realax [13:18] otherwise I will start upgrading to maverick and break my system ^^ [13:19] relax :P [13:19] or do kdebindings [13:19] I can do the update in bzr but that is pointless [13:19] bindings depends on workspace? [13:19] oh well [13:19] so we are stalled until stalcup arrives? [13:19] what the fck is going on [13:19] hm [13:19] needs a policy change [13:20] bzrpush-before-going-to-bed [13:20] apachelogger: http://wklej.org/id/370656/ [13:20] bzrpush-whenever-substantial-amount-of-work-done [13:20] >I: copying [./web] [13:20] what the heck? [13:20] bzrpush-before-going-to-bed-and-deassign-yourself [13:21] this is madness [13:21] Quintasan: you broke something [13:21] but what [13:21] oh [13:21] Quintasan: pbuilder -> dsc [13:22] not changes file [13:22] omfg [13:22] cleary pbuilder is running into a parsing error there [13:22] because it doesnt handle changes [13:22] ^^ [13:22] sbuild confused me [13:23] kdesudo -- do-release-upgrade -f KDE -d [13:23] apachelogger: you know, since I started building kdelibs we had a flawless streak [13:23] *scared* [13:23] do not break it [13:23] lol [13:23] :P [13:24] hm [13:24] better idea [13:24] * apachelogger does real upgrade test [13:37] omg [13:37] dantti: ping ping ping [13:39] sup apachelogger ? [13:40] http://imagebin.ca/view/BdlBogl.html [13:40] Upgrade to .... VOID [13:40] * apachelogger doesnt know how to check where the failure is [13:40] apachelogger: hehe :P [13:40] trololol [13:41] me@osiris:~$ /usr/lib/update-manager/check-new-release [13:41] Checking for a new ubuntu release [13:41] New release 'maverick' available. [13:41] update-manager is not at fault at least [13:41] Quintasan: Now that I think of it, you could probably use squid as an apt-cacher for https, just set the max file size and the expiry time for *.deb incredibly high. [13:42] Ubuntu VV == Vivid Void [13:42] apachelogger: ^ [13:43] apachelogger: I'm going to work, I'll pong you there... [13:43] Though, how void can be vivid? [13:43] dantti: okies [13:43] woah [13:43] oh dear [13:43] jesus [13:43] get_distro_upgrades of the apt backend is sort of ugly [13:43] >implying we will ever get to VV [13:44] apachelogger: dude.. look at your bottom tasl bar [13:44] got 3 FIXME comments within 5 lines ^^ [13:44] *task [13:44] shadeslayer: did I view pron at the time of snapshoting? [13:44] >Futurama [13:44] YOU PIRATE! [13:44] no.. the task manager plasmoid is all messed up [13:45] DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE! [13:45] shadeslayer: that happens from timing issues in ksnapshot && reordering animation in plasma [13:45] breaks every release and gets fixed every other :P [13:46] defective by design [13:46] Quintasan: maybe he is seeding Kubunt iso? [13:46] !info squid-deb-proxy | Quintasan [13:46] Quintasan: squid-deb-proxy (source: squid-deb-proxy): Squid proxy configuration optimized for deb packages. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.1 (lucid), package size 4 kB, installed size 88 kB [13:46] In Futurama directory? [13:46] shadeslayer: ^ [13:47] oic [13:47] * shadeslayer takes care of that stuff by maintaining a seprate activity for that [13:48] I somehow fail to understand activites [13:48] there was a option Different activity per desktop [13:48] but now there is only different set of widgets per desktop [13:48] why bother? [13:48] Quintasan: Same here. the "Activities" button in the plasma toolbox (top right corner) on 4.4.92 does a whole lot of nothing. [13:49] I just can't comprehend the logic (or lack of it) behind the change [13:49] I wanted to have a separate set of widgets per deskto [13:49] now I do [13:49] but what is the point of activities now [13:50] One annoying thing that I've just noticed is that, when you have multiple monitors, your activities will randomly switch between monitors at each login, instead of leaving Activity#1 on netbook monitor and Activity#2 on widescreen monitor. [13:51] That's why I unplugged my second monitor [13:51] the whole activity and dualhead needs moar love [13:53] how do i export my ssh keys? any ideas? [13:53] ive just copied over my .ssh dir for now [13:53] that is export?! [13:53] ssh does not have keyrings [13:53] every key got it its own file [13:53] every public key also got its own file [13:54] apachelogger: i just need to transfer the keys onto my new install [13:54] ( which is yet to be done ) [13:54] ssh-copy-id hostname [13:55] shadeslayer: that will copy your public key over / let you log in with it. If you want your private, then yes, just copy ~/.ssh [13:55] ok :) [13:57] hi! [13:57]