[00:17] <xsaiddx> hello
[00:23] <tenach> hello xsaiddx
[00:23] <xsaiddx> i removed my plymouth and now all my system is broken
[00:23] <xsaiddx> i cant get on it
[00:24] <xsaiddx> i have only that memory test line and xp
[00:24] <xsaiddx> can you help me
[00:24] <tenach> Do you have an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[00:25] <xsaiddx> yeh but im using lubuntu
[00:32] <tenach> xsaiddx, I would suggest booting from it and then installing plymouth - I think that plymouth is integrated enough that you need to keep it (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
[00:32] <xsaiddx> tenach, i can get on my console or anythin
[00:32] <xsaiddx> just that memory test and xp just 2 choises
[00:32] <xsaiddx> you see
[00:33] <tenach> Can you insert the cd and boot from that?
[00:34] <xsaiddx> then ?
[00:34] <xsaiddx> cusi ve aleady boot with live cd
[00:36] <tenach> You can boot from it and then use it to fix your machine.
[00:37] <tenach> Are you on the machine that is having trouble?
[00:37] <xsaiddx> yeh but on xp side nwo imihave dual boot fortunatly
[00:37] <xsaiddx> tenach, i mean what i can do when go live
[00:37] <xsaiddx> any tip you can tell me
[00:37] <xsaiddx> cus there
[00:38] <tenach> xsaiddx, PM'ed you the link
[00:38] <xsaiddx> weak chances to get on internet the wifi its too weak
[00:38] <xsaiddx> ok tnx a lot
[00:38] <xsaiddx> ill try
[00:38] <xsaiddx> i hop it works
[00:38] <tenach> No problem.
[00:39] <tenach> xsaiddx, try also adding the line
[00:39] <tenach> apt-get install plymouth
[00:39] <tenach> xsaiddx, good luck
[00:46] <phillw> hi tenach I've suggested he use http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35 and replace linux-kernel with plymouth. I'm not guaranteeing it will work, however.
[00:46] <tenach> phillw, you already suggested that to him?
[00:47] <phillw> hge's on #lubuntu with me now.
[00:47] <tenach> Ah, okay.
[00:47] <phillw> and said he'd been in here, so I thought I'd pop by and tell you what I've just suggested he do.
[00:47] <tenach> Alright.
[00:47] <tenach> Thank you phillw
[00:48] <phillw> I'm still not saying it will work, but in theory it should :-)
[00:48] <phillw> we will know in a while :-)
[00:49]  * tenach nods
[00:50] <phillw> "Obviously when you remove core packages that other important packages depend on, it makes a mess of the system."  (Not my words, just from a thread on the forum regarding ripping plymouth out, amongst other things it also takes mountall with it etc :-\
[00:50] <tenach> Ouch.
[00:50] <phillw> Still. that thread i sent him to, does seem quite popular and no-one has sued me yet :-D
[00:51] <phillw> but, never been used for plymouth... until now
[00:53] <sunny_> hello
[00:54] <sunny_> is enyone here?
[00:54] <phillw> hi sunny_
[00:59] <sunny_> hello
[00:59] <sunny_> can i have a bit of help please
[00:59] <sunny_> ?
[01:00] <zkriesse> hello sunny_
[01:00] <zkriesse> sunny_: don't wait to ask if you need help! Ask away right away!
[01:00] <phillw> sunny_: Please do not wait to ask questions, simply ask! If anyone knows the answer, they will most likely reply
[01:02] <sunny_> i have ubuntu 9.04 and after update i have no sound im new on linux so im not sure what im doing but i tried alot of forums and there soliutions but still nothing, help please
[01:03] <zkriesse> Ok it's probably due to updating
[01:03] <zkriesse> Updating instead of a full install can cause issues
[01:03] <zkriesse> BUT we might be able to fix it regardless
[01:03] <zkriesse> System specs sunny_ ?
[01:05] <sunny_> my pc or soft?
[01:05] <sunny_> sry for my english :D
[01:06] <zkriesse> the pc itself
[01:07] <sunny_> amd athlon 3700 epox en-npa+sli nforce4 geforce 8600gt 2gb ram
[01:09] <iceflatline> good ($localtime) y'all
[01:09] <phillw> sunny_: did you upgrade 9.04, or are you still using 9.04 and just did an update of your system ?
[01:10] <phillw> hi iceflatline
[01:11] <iceflatline> any recommendations for a good low-level disk benchmarking tool?
[01:12] <sunny_> i just updated system im still on 9.04 i dont like 9.10
[01:13] <phillw> tenach: As they say, you learn something new everyday ... Plymouth is an application that runs very early in the boot process (even before the root filesystem is mounted!) - Now, that's scary !!!
[01:13] <tenach> Yeah, I knew it was something of that sort.. I knew enough to know that not having it was bad.
[01:13] <sunny_> my sound chip is snd_intel8x0 i have 6 jacks on integrated audio device
[01:14] <zkriesse> sunny_: you know that there is a new version now right?
[01:16] <phillw> iceflatline: I usually just look for comaprisons on the web, as people love testing drive speeds, however, http://www.linuxinsight.com/how_fast_is_your_disk.html may be the sort of thing you're looking for ?
[01:16] <sunny_> ubuntu 9.10?
[01:17] <phillw> sunny there is an LTS release out, 10.04
[01:17] <sunny_> oh yeah right i know that :D
[01:17] <phillw> but you cannot easily migrate 9.04 --> 10.04
[01:18] <iceflatline> phillw: thanks.
[01:18] <phillw> well, I gues what you call easy. It certainly can be done as I did it
[01:18] <sunny_> but that version is slow and cant get my video drivers work so resoliution is really pure
[01:19] <sunny_> i had 10.04 its purple screen :D but something was wrong with it i was reading articles that 9.04 is better in somekind of way
[01:20] <phillw> sunny_: you may just have needed to use nomodeset, the default is okay for most, but for some it needs altering. 10.04 has better support for more hardware.
[01:20] <phillw> but, that is just my honest opinion.
[01:22] <sunny_> i kind like this one but if there is no other way so ill try to go on 10.04 then :D
[01:23] <tenach> I had the same reservations but have come to really enjoy 10.04
[01:23] <tenach> s/same/similar
[01:25] <sunny_> so no way to make audio on 9.04?
[01:26] <phillw> sunny_: there are few possibilities
[01:29] <sunny_> i think my drivers are ok just i need to change jacks on linux itself i think couz on windows all i need is change on realtek, i can see on mixer that sound bars are moving i think thats good but still no sound i was on one of forums that said i need to change it somehow
[01:35] <sunny_> is there a app like realvnc on linux?
[01:36] <tenach> sunny_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Clients
[01:36] <sunny_> thanks
[01:37] <tenach> no problem sunny_
[01:37] <sunny_> maybe u know about audio on 9.04?
[01:39] <tenach> I used to.
[01:40] <sunny_> can u help please? :D
[01:41] <sunny_> i want to go on linux to start learning about it but this audio problem stops me from doing it
[02:09] <techm3> hello!
[02:13] <xsaiddx> hello
[02:13] <xsaiddx> i got this on start up http://pastebin.com/kgSrGqe5
[02:14] <xsaiddx> any idea how to fix it
[02:16] <IdleOne> xsaiddx: try asking in #ubuntu
[02:17] <xsaiddx> ok ubti have lubuntu tho
[02:18] <IdleOne> you could also try in #lubuntu
[02:18] <xsaiddx> yeh im on there
[02:25] <zkriesse> hello bladernr_
[02:26] <xsaiddx> zkriesse, can you help me pls i got this on start up http://pastebin.com/kgSrGqe5
[02:27] <zkriesse> I'm thinking the kernel is having and issue
[02:27] <zkriesse>  /join #ubuntu-kernel
[02:28] <xsaiddx> well cusi ve done this unlink /sbin/init
[02:31] <IdleOne> so do link /sbin/init
[02:31] <IdleOne> and reboot
[02:31] <IdleOne> see if it fixes it
[02:31] <xsaiddx> not really with that i had olny the cosole : D
[02:32] <IdleOne> but it booted to console at least
[02:32] <IdleOne> better then not booting at all
[02:32] <IdleOne> from there you can then see about getting GUI running
[02:33] <IdleOne> once booted to console, login and run startx see what it tells you
[02:34] <xsaiddx> yeh but on that console it give me this xsaiddx@none
[02:34] <xsaiddx> xsaiddx its my pseudo
[02:34] <xsaiddx> at none
[02:34] <xsaiddx> you see
[02:35] <IdleOne> not sure why it would show @none
[02:35] <IdleOne> unless that is what you set the name as when you installed
[02:37] <xsaiddx> noo
[02:37] <xsaiddx> its set to xsaiddx
[02:37] <phillw> IdleOne: or, of course, removed plymouth and all those packages that depended on it, which is what has happened
[02:40] <IdleOne> xsaiddx: you may want to install all those packages you removed
[03:22] <smeag0l> anybody having any experience with xubuntu ?
[04:09] <ridin> smeag0l, ping
[04:09] <smeag0l> ridin, pong
[04:09] <ridin> you might wanna ask #xubuntu
[04:09] <ridin> i can try helping, but i'm also learning about linux
[04:10] <smeag0l> oh yeah you're right it is 05:01 am here so i am kind of tired should be in bed
[04:11] <ridin> it's 8 pm here
[04:11] <smeag0l> hehe
[04:13] <pleia2> smeag0l: yep, use xubuntu all the time
[04:13] <stlsaint> pleia2: pfft...xubuntu shubuntu
[04:14] <ridin> lubuntu kubuntu xubuntu goobuntu eeebuntu bunubtunubtuntu ubuntu
[04:14]  * stlsaint is seriously considering a netbook o_O
[04:14]  * pleia2 hugs her netbook
[04:14] <smeag0l> what would you recommend hardware reqirement ? pleia2
[04:15] <smeag0l> *as
[04:15] <ridin> i forgot ubuntu netbook edition
[04:15] <ridin> dang.........
[04:15] <stlsaint> pleia2: what do you use your netbook for?
[04:15] <pleia2> smeag0l: the minimum sys reqs on the xubuntu site are accurate, but you'll want more ram to do things like run flash well
[04:16] <smeag0l> i got 512 MB on a Pentium III 533 MHz
[04:17] <pleia2> stlsaint: I have a desktop for normal work and lots of image editing, but the netbook is used for everything I used to use a laptop for - travel & presentations, sitting on the couch in the evening and blogging, IRCing and reading stuff like I'm doing now
[04:17] <pleia2> smeag0l: it won't be fast, but with 512M of ram it won't be horrible
[04:17]  * pleia2 has it running on 700mhz w/ 384M ram, ram is the limiting factor
[04:17] <ridin> if you want maximum ram saving
[04:18] <stlsaint> hrm, well i use my lappy for everything from converting media to surfing and everything in between! can a netbook handle a large work load?
[04:18] <ridin> use lubuntu
[04:18] <stlsaint> pleia2: ^^
[04:18] <pleia2> lubuntu certainly is a slimmer option
[04:18] <pleia2> stlsaint: not really, most netbooks are only around 1.6ghz, maybe a gig of ram
[04:19] <stlsaint> pfft
[04:19] <pleia2> you don't want to do a lot of large work load stuff on one
[04:19] <pleia2> sometimes I ssh -X across my network to run big apps on my desktop via my netbook, it works surprisingly well even over wifi :)
[05:03] <dyowiki> hi
[05:03] <dyowiki> how will i boot ubuntu to my iBook dual usb
[06:44] <zkriesse> Hello Dextralus
[06:51] <zkriesse> Helo BGL-[d]
[08:53] <svaksha> i was removing 'flashplugin-nonfree' but am repeatedly getting dpkg: error processing msttcorefonts (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1. Any ideas? TIA
[11:05] <tenach> Is the MSN protocol down for anyone else?
[11:05] <tenach> It is not connecting in Pidgin or Empathy.
[11:59] <duanedesign> what is the command to install a deb?
[12:01] <duanedesign> dpkg -i foo.deb
[13:13] <bobo123> hi!
[13:13] <paultag> heyya bobo123
[13:13] <paultag> bobo123: don't mind this
[13:14] <bobo123> I tried some linux-games and found xwelltris, but can't make it run in fullscreen.
[13:14] <paultag> bobo123: anything we can help with?
[13:14] <paultag> bobo123: Humm, OK. Sec, let me research that package
[13:14] <paultag> bobo123: have you tried the simple thing? Calt + enter?
[13:14] <paultag> alt *
[13:15] <bobo123> in the webpage from the original programmer it says that i should write xwelltris --full to make it go fullscreen (normally you want to run games in fullscreen so it should be default in imho, or at least have a key or setting but......) well it doesn't work. still no fullscreen with -full
[13:16] <paultag> bobo123: have you tried alt + enter?
[13:16] <bobo123> no ctrl-enter don't work either. or any other I can think of, F, F11
[13:16] <paultag> let me install it. It uses libsdl, so it can do it
[13:16] <bobo123> (yeah I ment alt-enter)
[13:18] <paultag> bobo123: I'm not seeing anything. File a bug with debian, if you don't mind :)
[13:20] <bobo123> btw, the package (in synaptic) says it is 1.0.1-14 (=the latest version I believe), the man xwelltris says 1.0.1, but when I run the game itself says 'VERSION 1.0.0 2002-03-11' in its menuscreen. but perperhaps just noone change its graphics.
[13:20] <paultag> that's correct bobo123
[13:20] <paultag> bobo123: when Debian packages stuff in, the last dash is the Debian modifier
[13:20] <bobo123> ok
[13:21] <paultag> bobo123: so that means it's the 14'th debian upload of 1.0.1
[13:21] <bobo123> if someone can make it run fullscreen then they should edit the games graphics to say 1.0.1 instead 1.0.0 too I guess
[13:23] <paultag> bobo123: you should really file a bug report on that
[13:23] <bobo123> (and change the adress to it's webpage too, it still says som soviet union webserer that doesn't exist anymore, the new one is xnc.jinr.ru)
[13:23] <paultag> bobo123: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=xwelltris
[13:23] <bobo123> ok I do that
[13:23] <paultag> bobo123: they are not the soviet union anymore
[13:23] <paultag> bobo123: it's russia
[13:24] <bobo123> I wonder if the su topdomain even exist anymore :-)
[13:24] <paultag> doubt it :)
[13:24] <bobo123> did you try to run it in fullscreen and it didn't work there either?
[13:25] <bobo123> so it isn't just for me that it fails with -full I mean
[13:25] <paultag> bobo123: yes, it does not go fullscreen with -full, --full, -fullscreen, or --fullscreen
[13:25] <paultag> bobo123: common key bindings are also not present
[13:25] <paultag> bobo123: so I'd file a bug
[13:28] <kermiac> hmm...  "'xwelltris -full' - for full screen mode. Note that this option works only with SDL support." Any ideas which "SDL libraries" the author is referring to?
[13:28] <kermiac> http://xnc.jinr.ru/xwelltris/installation.html
[13:29] <paultag> kermiac: it's what it's built on
[13:29] <paultag> kermiac: it's a C lib into OpenGL
[13:29] <paultag> kermiac: it installs SDL binding with the deb :)
[13:29] <kermiac> ah, ok. thanks paultag
[13:29] <paultag> sure
[13:31] <bobo123> if I should write a bugreport, should I run "ubuntu-bug xwelltris" from commandline or operhaps "ubuntu-bug -B debian xwelltris"
[13:31] <bobo123> ?
[13:34] <kermiac> bobo123: you will need to use reportbug - http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug
[13:34] <bobo123> hmm.. ubuntu-bug seems to be just an alias for apport-bug and its man-file doesn't say it have that parameter that reportbug mentioned
[13:35] <bobo123> reportbug xwelltris just gives ther error '*** ERROR: "Ubuntu" BTS is currently unsupported. Please use "ubuntu-bug" (from the apport package) for reporting bugs in Ubuntu. You can report bugs to Debian by specifying 'bts debian' in your ~/.reportbugrc or by passing the -B debian option on the commandline (see reportbug(1)).'
[13:37] <bobo123> isn't normally bugs reported in ubuntu with some webpage?
[13:39] <bobo123> oh... it was "reportbug -B debian xwelltris" I was supposed to write I guess... I missundertood the error
[13:40] <philinux> bobo123: you can use this page. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[13:40] <kermiac> bobo123: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/Bugs might also be helpful
[13:42] <kermiac> bobo123: philinux https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect is for launchpad, where a triager will just ask for it to be forwarded upstream to debian anyway. Feel free to report it in launchpad, but it would be helpful to report it upstream (to debian) also
[13:42] <bobo123> ok
[13:42] <philinux> IRC query: my posts come up in light grey, anyway to change this. Using xchat
[13:47] <kermiac> philinux: I don't use xchat & this post is a few years old. Hopefully it helps - http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?p=15081&sid=c028217c08a726ec7b189f3f488db3d3
[13:50] <kermiac> philinux: also this is a little more recent - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304977
[13:50]  * kermiac runs off to bed now
[13:51] <bobo123> btw, xwelltris is of course in the package xwelltris but for some programs that is not true, are there a commandline command to tell what package a command is part of?
[13:52] <bobo123> good night & sleep well kermiac :-)
[13:52] <kermiac> bobo123: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage (search for xprop WM_CLASS)
[13:53] <kermiac> bobo123: or you can use "which"
[13:53] <kermiac> ok, really going to bed now
[13:55] <philinux> nighty night
[14:11] <bobo123> if I get "Timeout error Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad." should I write the bug again?
[14:12] <philinux> IRC my text colour sorted
[14:13] <philinux> http://dalegribble.vox.com/library/post/how-to-change-own-text-in-x-chat-1.html
[15:06] <hobgoblin> anyone in and awake and know what port irc uses?
[15:08] <hobgoblin> nvm
[15:08] <philinux> Is is awake
[15:08] <hobgoblin> :)
[15:09] <philinux> Hey I found out how to make my messages show up in bold black instead of the light grey
[15:09] <hobgoblin> I'm not - it wasn't irc it was nfs :)
[15:09] <hobgoblin> change the colour in preferences
[15:09] <philinux> nah
[15:10] <hobgoblin> wish me luck, another go trying to get a bt homehub to allow nfs
[15:10] <philinux> Settings advanced>Text events scroll right down to Your message
[15:11] <philinux> Best of Luck
[15:12] <hobgoblin> I'll need it :) of course I could waste some time phoning bt ...
[15:42] <philinux> hobgoblin: Any Luck?
[15:49] <hobgoblin> philinux: none at all - back to the trusty old netgear
[15:49] <philinux> Is that a router?
[15:52] <hobgoblin> philinux: yep
[15:52] <philinux> so whats the NFS setup entail
[15:54] <hobgoblin> nfs server on the server, client on the client - a file on the server telling what to serve and some lines is fstab to mount the stuff
[15:54] <hobgoblin> I might try phoning bt for the laugh
[15:55] <philinux> Righto, except it wont work with the BT homehub router
[15:55] <hobgoblin> yep
[15:55] <philinux> Ah, firewall stuff
[15:55] <hobgoblin> the nfs server is set to a WIDE range of IP addresses
[15:56] <philinux> must be some settings different on it to the netgear then
[16:00] <philinux> hobgoblin: http://imagebin.org/107414
[16:03] <hobgoblin> confusing me - I have seen that
[16:03] <philinux> My messages are in black bold instead of the wishy washy grey
[16:04] <philinux> Much easier to see
[16:04] <hobgoblin> oic
[16:04] <philinux> It was really buggin me.
[16:04] <hobgoblin> I never bother about what I have said - I can usually remember :D
[16:04] <philinux> Not in #ubuntu
[16:05] <philinux> Rather busy in there
[16:06] <philinux> hobgoblin: Whats the advantage of the BT router?
[16:06] <hobgoblin> I never go in ubuntu
[16:07] <hobgoblin> philinux: it's just newer ... I'm not going to bother - though I might try a thread
[16:07] <hobgoblin> then poke dmizer ...
[16:07] <philinux> LOL
[16:08] <philinux> What about the #networking channel, some clued up guys in there
[16:08] <hobgoblin> I'll do a thread first - but I am rapidly losing interest - especially given that I was forced to BT and will unforce myslef as soon as I can
[16:10] <philinux> hobgoblin: How long is your contract left to go
[16:11] <hobgoblin> 8 or 9 months
[16:12] <hobgoblin> philinux: when the phone contract is up I will force the issue on the b/band one - different contract lengths - not stupid from their pov
[16:12] <philinux> hobgoblin: I'm with talktalk
[16:13] <hobgoblin> I was - but moved and would not wait 2 months for b/band - BT set it up in 5 days
[16:15] <philinux> Speed varies a lot
[16:15] <hobgoblin> yep
[16:22] <Shahram> What programs are there for automatic maintenance (defragment, clutter etc.), safety (firewall, antivirus) that I can use? I have installed a few from Ubuntu software center, but nothing is easy to use or automatic?
[16:24] <geirha> The filesystem defragments itself automagically
[16:24] <geirha> Well, the ext* filesystems anyway
[16:25] <geirha> firewall is builtin to linux and you control it with the iptables command (which is a bit hard to use). There are some CLI and GUI frontends you can install to make it easier.
[16:25] <Shahram> so what are programs such as kleen sweep, Gconf cleaner etc for?
[16:26] <geirha> Dunno, never heard of them, though the latter suggests it removes config that is not used anymore from gconf.
[16:26] <geirha> Antivirus you don't need.
[16:26] <geirha> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[16:28] <hobgoblin> shahram - the thing is not to bring a windows way of looking at things - it all works differently - have a look at this when you have to sit down for a read - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[16:29] <Shahram> Thank you for the weblinks. Q: there is a program called firestarter and another called firewall configuration which every time have to be started, are these related to the iptables or are they different, firestarter most of the time shows hits on my computer, which I don't exactly understand?
[16:32] <Shahram> There is also a problem with folders and documents, when I try to open folders to find something, the windows lock (they turn grey in color and don't funtion) I have to force quite every time. How can this be fixed?
[16:35] <geirha> Shahram: The greying out of a window is a feature of the compiz window manager (which is the default used if your graphics card does 3d)
[16:35] <geirha> It greys out a window when the program stops responding.
[16:35] <geirha> Where is that folder located?
[16:35] <geirha> If it's on a network share, it may just be that it takes a bit of time for it to read the contents.
[16:36] <geirha> Try waiting it out and see if it comes back.
[16:37] <Shahram> The folders are normally in the system, specially when I install programs and need to check something, but it also happens in the home folder, sometimes waiting give a positive response but it is slow, sometimes it doesn't.
[16:37] <geirha> What kind of computer is it?
[16:38] <Shahram> Pakard Bell laptop. I bought it new last year, its cheap one
[16:39] <geirha> I get that on my netbook, which has an ssd disk. When it's being written to alot, programs that try to read from the disk becomes unresponsive for a while.
[16:40] <Shahram> Can anything be done to fix this problem?
[16:42] <philinux> Shahram: Turn off compiz
[16:42] <Shahram> how can I do that, and does it effect anything else?
[16:43] <geirha> System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> [Visual Effects] -> (*) None
[16:45] <Shahram> Thank you, I have just done it, I'll see in the next few days what the result is.
[16:45] <philinux> Shahram: Just eye candy that's all.
[16:45] <philinux> You should see the effect straight away
[16:45] <geirha> Compiz is what allows you to make your desktop into a rotating cube and stuff like that, which you might have seen videos of on the net.
[16:46] <philinux> Shahram: What are the full specs of the lappy
[16:46] <Shahram> No, I haven't but I'll try to read on it, I don't have good internet connections to watch videos.
[16:47] <geirha> I'm off to catch a bus. Good luck on your Ubuntu journey ;)
[16:48] <Shahram> Thank you geirtha. I am looking up the specs for philinux.
[16:52] <Shahram> Packard Bell laptop (Easy Note MH36) 250 GB Hard Disk - Windows 7 - 32 bit second half of the disk Ubuntu 10.04
[16:53] <Shahram> 2 G processor - 2
[16:53] <Shahram> 2 G memory
[16:59] <philinux> Shahram: Onboard graphics card I guess
[17:00] <Shahram> Yes, everything as shipped, cheap stuffl, the computer cost $450 new
[17:00] <philinux> Whats it like with compiz turned off
[17:01] <Shahram> I don't know - I have to see later
[17:03] <philinux> You should be able to tell straight away from the performance
[17:04] <Shahram> Since I have turned the visual effects off the windows close or minimize with a trail of outlines
[17:06] <philinux> t gconf-editor and enable /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources. that will disable the minimize animation and some other eye candies.
[17:06] <Shahram> I just tried to open a folder in system - user - share - Babiloo - dict, it opened without problem, but it was slow
[17:06] <philinux> That will get rid of the wireframe
[17:07] <Shahram> where is gconf-editor
[17:07] <philinux> Good idea to make a note somewhere of any changes you make
[17:07] <Shahram> ok
[17:08] <philinux> Ah you can enable it from system>prefs main menu
[17:08] <philinux> Look under system tools
[17:09] <Shahram> I can't find it
[17:10] <philinux> system tools in in the accessories
[17:10] <philinux> or run it directly from a terminal gconf-editor
[17:11] <Shahram> I found it - system tools configuration editor
[17:12] <Shahram> Now the file browser is not respondign
[17:13] <philinux> Is something either using too much processor or ram
[17:14] <Shahram> I don't know what that would be I have to check it - I don't remember which program shows that
[17:14] <philinux> top
[17:16] <Shahram> The system monitor shows that CPU is mainly under %50 and memry plus swap on %50
[17:16] <philinux> Is the lappy mainly a bit sluggish?
[17:17] <Shahram> Not really, with win 7 it works OK
[17:17] <philinux> In a terminal what does free -m show
[17:18] <Shahram> it is showing %48 memory occupied and 0 swap
[17:18] <philinux> So it's using 1gig
[17:18] <Shahram> Yes just under 1 gig
[17:19] <philinux> What apps you got running to use that  much
[17:19] <philinux> Run top in the terminal take screen shot and use imagebin to let us have alook
[17:20] <Shahram> At the moment I have two mail clients, two browsers, two firewall apps and a few smaller apps on the panel
[17:20] <philinux> firewall apps
[17:22] <Shahram> I mean Firewall programs, Gufw 10.04.5 and firestarter
[17:23] <philinux> Unless you mean to change anything they don't need to be running
[17:23] <philinux> They are not the firewall
[17:23] <Shahram> I didn't know that Ubuntu was running its own firewall
[17:24] <philinux> It runs iptables by default. The apps ^ are just gui's to change settings.
[17:25] <philinux> iptables is the firewall and if you're behind a router that has a hardware firewall built in
[17:25] <Shahram> Ok. I am trying to find the terminal and the snap shot - these things are new for me
[17:25] <philinux> Apps Accessories
[17:26] <Shahram> OK - I have done that and typed top
[17:27] <philinux> take a screenshot
[17:27] <philinux> alt+printscreen
[17:28] <Shahram> how do I send it to you
[17:28] <philinux> http://imagebin.ca/
[17:34] <Shahram> its being uploaded
[17:35] <JoeMaverickSett> QUESTION: "can i install ASP.NET and such tools on Ubuntu?"
[17:35] <Shahram> you can find the snapshot at: http://imagebin.ca/view/YE_1IjB.html
[17:42] <Shahram> philinux you were typing about a router with a hardware firewall built in - I use the internet in a sub standard public place
[17:44] <geirha> JoeMaverickSett: No, Microsoft doesn't bother with making their software available in linux.
[17:46] <geirha> JoeMaverickSett: There's a project called Mono which attempts to write a .net compatible framework, not sure if it has ASP yet though.
[17:48] <geirha> JoeMaverickSett: http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
[17:51] <Cheri703> question about ssh'ing: I am able to use ssh within my lan, but I would like to be able to access my "server" computer when out and about. can anyone direct me to a guide on setting that up?
[17:54] <Shahram> Thank you for your help - philinux and geirha - I have to go now.
[17:56] <philinux> Shahram: nothing wrong in the top image
[17:56] <philinux> looks fine
[17:57] <Shahram> Ok thank you for looking at it - I have to go and read a bit and learn more about Ubuntu - thank you for your time
[17:57] <philinux> Could be ubuntu-one causing a lag
[17:58] <Shahram> I was not connected to it - it might be that its automatic
[17:58] <philinux> Bye then
[17:58] <Shahram> Bye and thank you
[17:58] <JoeMaverickSett> geirha, thanks, taking a look at that site.
[18:12] <komputes> Does anyone know how to disable the touchpad on Lucid?
[18:12] <DarkwingDuck> komputes: for what reason?
[18:13] <geirha> Have you looked in System -> Preferences -> Mouse ?
[18:14] <DarkwingDuck> komputes: If you want this words for disabling it while typping but allowing it to work any other time.  http://darkwingduck.org/2010/03/temporarily-disable-touchpad-while-typing/
[18:15] <komputes> DarkwingDuck: not while typing, just outright off. I do not need it since I have an external mouse I prefer. i brush up against it by accident and would like it disabled.
[18:16] <komputes> geirha: I do not see an option to disable the touchpas in mouse preferences, do you?
[18:16] <DarkwingDuck> komputes: GNOME?
[18:16] <komputes> DarkwingDuck: yup
[18:16] <DarkwingDuck> :( Okay, sorry, I'm a KDE user
[18:17] <komputes> DarkwingDuck: smart move
[18:17] <geirha> komputes: I'm not on a laptop at the moment, just thought it might have an option if there were a touchpad.
[18:17] <komputes> geirha: there are touchpad options but none to turn it off, i don't think it would be safe to have that graphically as users would disable their mouse and then think it was broken :)
[18:18] <geirha> komputes: Haha, good point I guess ;)
[18:18] <komputes> DarkwingDuck: there is such an option in KDE?
[18:18] <DarkwingDuck> komputes:  http://www.bhagwad.com/blog/2010/technology/alps-synaptics-touchpad-configuration-in-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-10-04.html
[18:19] <komputes> DarkwingDuck: nice find, this blogger looks interesting with his mug
[18:19] <DarkwingDuck> komputes: not sure, my laptop has the old school eraser head mouse :D
[18:19] <DarkwingDuck> komputes: it's cool... I think I'll change my name to GoogleKing LOL
[18:20] <komputes> DarkwingDuck: I'm prettu good at googleing myself, did not find this one
[18:20]  * komputes gives DarkwingDuck a gift
[18:20] <komputes> DarkwingDuck: http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=001461844748502826593:hh-ikmexth4
[18:21] <DarkwingDuck> komputes: Searched "disable ubuntu touchpad in lucid" it was the top one LOL
[18:21] <geirha> Seems you can turn if off with   synclient touchpadoff=1
[18:21] <geirha> That's probably only until next reboot though
[18:21] <komputes> geirha: nope, tried that
[18:22] <DarkwingDuck> komputes: Let me know if that works
[18:22] <geirha> Hm. Probably some change in newer releases that makes it inert then :/
[18:22] <komputes> DarkwingDuck: well i'm about to try the gconf key in the comments
[18:22] <DarkwingDuck> Okay
[18:22] <komputes> geirha: right, udev
[18:23] <DarkwingDuck> komputes: Let me know via query... going AFK
[18:24] <geirha> Ah, right. The page DarkwingDuck pasted says it right there, in the first paragraph :)
[18:37] <komputes> DarkwingDuck: geirha: this did it: "gconftool -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled false"
[18:45] <geirha> Lovely, nice and simple :)
[18:59] <thomas_> i'm trying to make my Canon Scanner LIDE 100 work with ubuntu. Just about there but have Simple Scan and need a fix to make it work $sudo cp ~/sane-backends/backend/genesys.conf.in /etc/sane.d/genesys.conf Ater typing this I get: cannot create regular file `/etc/sane.d/genesys.conf': Permission denied---- any suggestions?
[19:00] <geirha> Remove the $ at the start
[19:01] <thomas_> sorry i've been typing : cp ~/sane-backends/backend/genesys.conf.in /etc/sane.d/genesys.conf
[19:01] <geirha> And you need root privileges to copy the file under /etc, so you need sudo in-front of cp
[19:02] <thomas_> still get permission denied
[19:04] <thomas_> ok, should i be expecting an output in terminal after that goes through?
[19:04] <thomas_> asked for pw, then went back to command line
[19:10] <zkriesse> thomas_: Did you enter your pw?
[19:10] <thomas_> i see the genesys.conf file now in the etc folder, does that mean its fixed with reboot?
[19:10] <thomas_> yes
[19:10] <thomas_> but saw no output
[19:11] <zkriesse> Enter your password properly, you won't see it as it's part of the security, and then press the "Enter" key
[19:13] <thomas_> done. so exit and reboot?
[19:13] <zkriesse> I guess so...I've no idea what your problem is...I was just commenting on your password issue
[20:32] <BGL-[d]> gkrellm/gkx86info appears to be reporting this cpus clock speed incorrectly, what is another util to get a 2nd opinion
[20:45] <t0byhack3r> I am having problems installing a Epson printer in Ubuntu, can anyone help?
[20:47] <pleia2> t0byhack3r: what's the trouble?
[20:49] <t0byhack3r> Its an Epson Stylus SX415 but its being recognised as an SX410. I've tried changing it but it still doesn't work properly
[20:50] <pleia2> can you be more specific about "doesn't work properly"?
[20:50] <pleia2> doesn't a test page? prints things with the wrong formatting?
[20:51] <t0byhack3r> Sometimes it prints properly. Sometimes it errors and the page prints part way and then stops, the printer says printing but doesn't do anything, the computer says error
[20:52] <pleia2> does it do this whether it's identified as a SX415 or a SX410?
[20:53] <t0byhack3r> it does it as both
[20:54] <pleia2> hmm, http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Epson/Epson-Stylus_SX415 seems to indicate that it works "perfectly"
[20:54] <pleia2> there are some recommended drivers listed there
[20:55] <pleia2> someone more familiar with the gnome printer tool might have to help you though
[20:56] <t0byhack3r> I've tried them. I've also tried using cups/gutenprint
[20:56] <pleia2> ah, same problems?
[20:57] <pleia2> do you know if this printer behave properly under other OSes?
[20:57] <t0byhack3r> yep. i'm worried the various things I've tried are conflicting. Is there any way to 'reset' an ubuntu install without re-installing?
[20:57] <pleia2> you can probably purge the cups install itself and reinstall it
[20:57] <pleia2> but otherwise, not really
[20:58] <t0byhack3r> I've tried un-installing then re-installing cups, it didn't help!
[21:16] <Out-Of-Hand> hi eberyone. i have been trting for 2 weeks now to install ubuntu 10.04 on my desktop , but been failing .... 1 - i have a good copy of the iso md5sum is correct. i burnt it to cd... and tried a usb bootable... problem im having is :
[21:17] <duanedesign> t0byhack3r: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/database/cupsdocumentation
[21:17] <duanedesign> ive always found that site helpful
[21:17] <Out-Of-Hand> i install ubuntu, and when it reboots i finaly got it to pass the completing installation .. by doing : ESC > apic workarounds
[21:18] <Out-Of-Hand> i have to add Apic=off to make my computer boot up and finish the installation ... iu finaly got it to finish... then when i reboot my pc to load ubuntu
[21:18] <Out-Of-Hand> if i let it get to the option to choose windoze or ubuntu.. i ket it go normally. and it hangs at a black screen with a flashing _
[21:18] <t0byhack3r> duanedesign: thanks, I'll try what it suggests
[21:19] <Out-Of-Hand> when i reboot , i get to recoverymode... and a bunch of text comes up ... and it stops at pnp: no plug and play devices found
[21:19] <Out-Of-Hand> :~(
[21:20] <duanedesign> Out-Of-Hand: so it does get to the screen where you select ubuntu or windows?
[21:21] <Out-Of-Hand> yes, i finally got to install ubuntu. after the duel boot- select windows or ubuntu oi select ubuntu
[21:21] <Out-Of-Hand> and it wants to boot ... 3 options ... the original normal boot. or recoverymode... or windows  (thats the grub)
[21:22] <Out-Of-Hand> i have been on here alot (irc) and all over trying to get someone to help... even left post on ubuntu forms ... no reply though .... i have never had thhis issue installing ubuntu before ... so its frustrating
[21:23] <Out-Of-Hand> after i select normail mode- black screen comes up with flashing "_" and thats it ... no further action
[21:24] <Out-Of-Hand> recovery mode ... it gets me to pnp:no plug and play device found
[21:24] <Out-Of-Hand> and hangs....
[21:26] <Out-Of-Hand> i have 3 hdd all Sata  - i unplugged all and tried with just one 500gb and same issue
[21:26] <Out-Of-Hand> i have only 1 graphics card... intsalled and no other hardware added
[21:26] <Out-Of-Hand> pleas can anyone help me
[21:27] <duanedesign> have you tried adding thr acpi=off to the kernel line
[21:28] <Out-Of-Hand> where do i add that (normal mode )?
[21:28] <duanedesign> if you press 'e' while highlighting the linux option in Grub (the menu where you choose between windows and Ubuntu)
[21:28] <duanedesign> scroll down to the kernel line
[21:29] <Out-Of-Hand> ok ... do i add it below the kernel line ... or next to it ?
[21:29] <duanedesign> press e again
[21:30] <duanedesign> Then add or subtract whichever boot option you wish
[21:30] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Change%20Boot%20Options%20Temporarily%20For%20An%20Existing%20Installation
[21:30] <Out-Of-Hand> if this works... do i alwys have to boot up with this (acpi=off)
[21:32] <Out-Of-Hand> i tried editing after adding apic=off before and then i ctrl-X  to boot ... it then hangs on "booting command line" or something like that
[21:34] <duanedesign> Out-Of-Hand: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries
[21:34] <Out-Of-Hand> thanks let me check
[21:34] <duanedesign> i have not changed boot options in the new grub. That wiki page should help
[21:35] <Out-Of-Hand> thanks im gonna reboot and try it ...
[21:35] <Out-Of-Hand> juist 1 more question
[21:36] <Out-Of-Hand> when i seleft "E" on the normal ubuntu load
[21:36] <Out-Of-Hand> do i add that line way at the bottom after everything or does it matter where it goes ?
[21:37] <duanedesign> i usually just add it on the end.
[21:37] <Out-Of-Hand> ok thanks /... will be backl soon
[21:37] <Out-Of-Hand> thanks again
[21:37] <duanedesign> i think that wiki page has instructions specifically for grub2
[21:37] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Editing%20Menus%20During%20Boot
[21:59] <phillw> pleia2: ping, when you have a coupel of moments to spare could you PM me, thanks.
[22:20] <xsaiddx> hello
[22:20] <hobgoblin> hello
[22:21] <xsaiddx> when i boot and select my ubuntu
[22:21] <xsaiddx> i got this
[22:24] <xsaiddx> targethttp://pastebin.com/24BrQJY8
[22:25] <xsaiddx> target doesnt have sbin/init
[22:25] <xsaiddx> http://pastebin.com/24BrQJY8
[22:27] <hobgoblin> that's not nice - it's a bit late for me to be getting into that - I been up for hours, I hope that someone elkse is looking and can help
[22:29] <hobgoblin> if not I would have a look on the forums - try searching here - http://crunchbang.org/ubuntu-search-engine/
[22:29] <hobgoblin> will give specific ubuntu results - sorry can't be of more help
[23:49] <Out-Of-Hand> hello again
[23:50] <Out-Of-Hand> i have success ... thank you so much !! i have managed to start up ubuntu
[23:50] <Out-Of-Hand> i had to edit the Grub file
[23:51] <Out-Of-Hand> with Acpi=off
[23:51] <Out-Of-Hand> works like a charm ")
[23:52] <Out-Of-Hand> just a question.,.. i see pidgin was replaced with Empathy,,,, but there is not IRC on the list
[23:55] <phillw> Out-Of-Hand: I still use pidgin for IRC, but I am old fashioned, you should have X-Chat on your system. (I still use pidgin :p )
[23:55]  * slidinghorn uses xchat 
[23:56] <phillw> Out-Of-Hand: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto drs305 wrote that excellent article.
[23:57] <phillw> slidinghorn: I've been told it is excellent, far more versatile than pidgin, only it cannot handle AIM, MSN and Yahoo! IM's - so, I use the one size fits all programme :-)
[23:58] <slidinghorn> phillw, i rarely use instant messaging so it's not much of a hangup for me
[23:59] <phillw> I have friends on windows machines who are only used to what they are given, a pita at times but I'm not going to forsake them.
[23:59] <Out-Of-Hand> yeah i agree ... i hardly use chats ...  back in 2000 i used mirc ... but ... nothing else ... now i have a little free time on my hands .. would be nice to make some friends on IRC