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cjohnston | kenv[phone]: its been 5 hours since gwibber updated FB | 01:52 |
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kenv[phone] | Gt | 01:52 |
kenv[phone] | That is facebook throttling us :( | 01:52 |
cjohnston | :-( | 01:53 |
cjohnston | when you get a chance to chat, I have something I want to talk to you about. | 01:53 |
cjohnston | I thought that there was supposed to be a chance that fixed the throttling | 01:53 |
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kenvandine | cjohnston, yeah it'll take time | 04:52 |
kenvandine | we need enough users to get the update so the usage goes down | 04:52 |
pitti | Good morning | 07:37 |
baptistemm | heya | 07:48 |
pitti | mvo: guten Morgen | 07:48 |
mvo | hey pitti, good morning | 07:49 |
* pitti hugs mvo | 07:49 | |
and471 | mvo, hi, to work on the logindialog stuff, do I use the trunk branch or my branch? (have you done more work on in, on top of mine in trunk)? | 08:35 |
and471 | hi mpt, vish | 08:37 |
mpt | Good morning | 08:37 |
and471 | grhh, I just read the whole GNOMe census thing and now I am grumpy :( | 08:37 |
mvo | and471: I think best is to just merge my changes into your branch and then work from that | 08:38 |
and471 | mvo, ok, will do | 08:38 |
didrocks | good morning | 08:45 |
and471 | didrocks, mornin | 08:45 |
didrocks | hey and471 | 08:45 |
didrocks | vish: thanks for the link, I'll have a look at next cheese upload | 08:54 |
pitti | hey didrocks | 09:01 |
didrocks | good morning pitti, how are you? | 09:02 |
pitti | I'm great, thanks. how are you? last guadec day? | 09:02 |
seb128 | hey | 09:02 |
seb128 | hey pitti | 09:02 |
* pitti hugs seb128 | 09:02 | |
* seb128 hugs pitti back | 09:02 | |
didrocks | pitti: yeah, last guadec day :) | 09:03 |
and471 | mvo, I have some conflicts in appdetailsview_gtk | 09:13 |
and471 | mvo, what is the 'application-request-action' signal? | 09:13 |
mvo | and471: its when the app wnats to get installed or removed | 09:14 |
mvo | and471: we handle that in app.py to not have action code in the view itself | 09:15 |
and471 | mvo, ok | 09:15 |
and471 | mvo, is that recent? | 09:15 |
mvo | and471: yeah, sometimes last week iirc | 09:16 |
and471 | ah ok | 09:16 |
and471 | mvo, is the signal (that I have created) ok 'review-submit-requested' (in terms of phrasing etc.) | 09:17 |
mvo | and471: yeah, I thnk that is fine | 09:18 |
vish | hey didrocks and471 :) | 09:26 |
and471 | mvo, http://paste.lisp.org/display/112974 | 09:26 |
vish | didrocks: np , neat thanks. | 09:26 |
vish | and471: yay! michael committed the lernid fix ;) | 09:28 |
seb128 | mvo, hey | 09:28 |
and471 | vish, :) | 09:28 |
vish | and471: pretty soon upstreams are going to get tired of me ;) | 09:28 |
and471 | vish, haha | 09:28 |
seb128 | mvo, is there any way to run something in a package directly after unpack? | 09:28 |
seb128 | ie not wait on the postinst to run | 09:28 |
vish | and471: i think we would need a debdiff for that to get fixed for the Ubuntu package | 09:29 |
and471 | vish, yeah or wait for a new packaging | 09:29 |
and471 | vish, ask michael if he intends to do a new release in ubuntu anytime soon because if not then we will need to make a debdiff | 09:30 |
vish | and471: hmm , i dont think he does the packaging , didrocks uploaded it last time | 09:31 |
vish | and471: lernid hasnt changed much either , since the last upload | 09:31 |
and471 | vish, I shall have a look later today | 09:32 |
vish | and471: or maybe it has, there have been a few commits since 2/24.. :) | 09:32 |
huats | morning | 09:34 |
mvo | seb128: hi, what is the use-case? | 09:37 |
seb128 | mvo, gtk update | 09:38 |
seb128 | mvo, there is a cache for the pixbuf loaders | 09:38 |
seb128 | but the cache update happens in the postinst and triggers now | 09:39 |
mvo | seb128: so you want to break the "unpack/configure" cycle for gtk so that its immediatley configured | 09:39 |
seb128 | but it seems some other postinst scripts need the loaders and run before the gtk postinst script | 09:39 |
mvo | seb128: what about a dpkg trigger? not quite immediate though | 09:39 |
seb128 | well we have a trigger | 09:39 |
seb128 | asac had the issue yesterday | 09:39 |
seb128 | I had similar issues in my log | 09:39 |
mvo | seb128: so the cache format is no longer compiatible, is that the issue? | 09:40 |
seb128 | gtk-update-icon-cache can be used in other postinsts before gtk update the cache | 09:40 |
seb128 | no | 09:40 |
seb128 | we used to patch gtk to not use a cache but go read all the files in a dir rather | 09:40 |
seb128 | slomo dropped that in favor of a trigger now | 09:40 |
seb128 | but it seems that's not doing the job | 09:40 |
mvo | seb128: do you have a bugreport or something to look at? I don't fully understand what breaks, if something else updates the icon cache, that should be fine, no? its a cache etc? | 09:43 |
seb128 | what I understand of the issue is | 09:43 |
seb128 | gdk-pixbuf is unpacked | 09:43 |
seb128 | other things are unpacked | 09:44 |
seb128 | <software> is configured | 09:44 |
seb128 | the software.postinst runs update-gtk-icon-cache | 09:44 |
seb128 | which complains that there is no svg gdk pixdbuf loader installed | 09:44 |
seb128 | that's because it doesn't find the cache which lists the pidbuf loaders | 09:44 |
seb128 | then gdk-pixbuf is configured | 09:45 |
seb128 | which creates the cache | 09:45 |
seb128 | but the update-gtk-icon-cache call in the middle failed to work | 09:45 |
seb128 | mvo, you can ask asac for a debug log | 09:46 |
seb128 | asac, I got your email but the log file is not in your userdir | 09:47 |
and471 | mvo, I seem to have python-debian installed, but 'from debian import deb882' doesn't work - no module named debian | 09:47 |
geser | and471: which version of python-debian? | 09:47 |
and471 | geser, in the lucid repos | 09:48 |
seb128 | mvo, did you upgrade gtk yet since yesterday? | 09:48 |
and471 | geser, do I need the maverick version? | 09:48 |
seb128 | mvo, could you watch your upgrade log to see if you had warnings about loaders.cache? | 09:49 |
geser | and471: yes, python-debian 0.1.15 renamed "debian_bundle" to "debian" | 09:49 |
and471 | geser, ah okay, thanks | 09:49 |
mvo | and471: you need the maverick version, but you can also add | 09:50 |
mvo | hey geser :) | 09:50 |
and471 | mvo, thanks, geser got it sorted :) | 09:50 |
mvo | and471: you can add "try: import debian except ImportError: import debian_bundle | 09:50 |
mvo | and471: that is actually a good idea, as I suspect some people will follow development on lucid systems | 09:51 |
and471 | mvo, will do | 09:51 |
and471 | mvo, where did all the fancy hover effects for the categoryview go? | 09:51 |
mvo | thanks and471 | 09:51 |
mvo | and471: a couple of days ago, I like them | 09:51 |
and471 | mvo, sorry maybe you misunderstand, when I | 09:52 |
and471 | used SC before | 09:52 |
and471 | in the catview, there was a hover effect, like a GTK button | 09:52 |
and471 | but now it is not there? | 09:52 |
mvo | and471: mpt did not like them | 09:53 |
mvo | and471: I liked them though | 09:53 |
and471 | mvo, ah, yeah me too :( | 09:53 |
seb128 | kenvandine, pitti: hey | 09:57 |
seb128 | kenvandine, pitti: could one of you attend the r-t meeting today for our team? | 09:58 |
seb128 | I will be in the train to the airport at that time | 09:58 |
pitti | unfortunately not, I have a job interview at 17:00 | 09:58 |
seb128 | ok | 09:58 |
seb128 | kenvandine, ^ | 09:58 |
seb128 | I guess you are still sleeping but I don't know when I will be online later on | 09:58 |
seb128 | just tell them that most people are at GUADEC and be available for questions if we can | 09:58 |
seb128 | we -> you | 09:58 |
asac | seb128: the url i gave you doesnt work? | 10:02 |
asac | seb128: https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~asac/term.log | 10:03 |
and471 | mvo, could you explain what the different login backends (SSO and launchpad) are actually for? I don't really understand :) | 10:03 |
mvo | and471: its a bit of a historal thing, LP was first, ideally eventually LP will go away | 10:08 |
mvo | and471: and we use single-sign-on exclusively | 10:08 |
and471 | mvo, ok | 10:09 |
and471 | mvo, how are we going to store the credentials of the SSO? | 11:21 |
mvo | and471: the gnome-keyring | 11:39 |
and471 | mvo, I am setting it up, so that it should be able to work with remebered passwords and not ask everytime | 11:44 |
and471 | mvo, however I don't have experience with gnome-keyring so I cannot do that backend part | 11:44 |
mvo | and471: there is a a tests/gnome-keyring.py | 11:45 |
mvo | and471: should should help you getting started (if you are interessted :) | 11:45 |
and471 | mvo, ah ok, maybe I can then :) | 11:45 |
and471 | mvo, yay reviewing is now hooked up :) | 11:58 |
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cjohnston | kenvandine: gotcha | 16:14 |
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nigelb | mvo: poke? | 16:21 |
nigelb | mvo: can you take a look at bug 399711? Somone just came into #ubuntu-reviews asking if someone can review it. | 16:22 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 399711 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "add-apt-repository ppa:username does not add deb-src entry (affects: 5) (heat: 36)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399711 | 16:22 |
mvo | nigelb: sure | 16:23 |
mvo | nigelb: looks fine | 16:25 |
nigelb | awesome :) | 16:25 |
nigelb | you're set as reviewer, so maybe you can accept for now and merge it in later when you get the time :) | 16:25 |
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asac | hmm ... pixbuf the second. firefox trunk doesnt build anymore here ;) | 16:30 |
asac | from /home/asac/Development/upstream/mozilla/mozilla-central/xpcom/base/nsSystemInfo.cpp:45: | 16:30 |
asac | ../../dist/system_wrappers/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.h:3: fatal error: gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.h: No such file or directory | 16:30 |
asac | chrisccoulson: ^^ | 16:30 |
asac | chrisccoulson: ignore it for now ;) | 16:32 |
chrisccoulson | asac - micahg saw that yesterday too with other software | 16:32 |
asac | i wanted to do a clean rebuild to update pkg-config info etc. but failed to do so it seems | 16:32 |
asac | chrisccoulson: yeah. i already had that with other software, but usually a reconfigure was enough | 16:32 |
asac | lets see what comes out of the fresh build i am doing now | 16:32 |
chrisccoulson | i've not had a chance to look at it yet | 16:33 |
asac | dont bother. most likely its fine | 16:33 |
asac | just a header relocation, which means you need to rerun configure in built trees | 16:33 |
asac | i will let you know what happens with the fresh rebuild here | 16:33 |
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and471 | mvo, you here? | 16:43 |
mvo | and471: yes | 16:43 |
mvo | and471: yes | 16:44 |
and471 | mvo, I have hooked gnome keyring into the login backend so we can remember authorisations | 16:46 |
and471 | mvo, is it okay we store the item in the login keyring? | 16:46 |
mvo | and471: I think it is | 16:46 |
and471 | mvo, let me rephrase that, is that where you planned to put it? | 16:47 |
mvo | heh :) | 16:47 |
mvo | and471: I had/have not fully made up my mind yet, I'm not a keyring expert, but I think its fine, epiphany and friends use it too for this purpose, but its worth double checking that they actually do | 16:48 |
and471 | mvo, yeah I was looking and eveything seems to store it in there, I don't think we want the user to have a separate password just for SC | 16:48 |
and471 | sabdfl, great post :) | 16:53 |
sabdfl | thanks and471 | 16:53 |
sabdfl | now trying to follow my own advice and not get sucked into the vortex | 16:53 |
and471 | it is hard, I read that this morning and wanted to write some flamey blog post, but instead I watched Mock the Week and that calmed me down :D | 16:54 |
vish | and471: heh , will fizz out soon... ;) | 17:01 |
and471 | I hope so Dr vish :D | 17:01 |
vish | :) | 17:01 |
and471 | mvo, the gnome-keyring stuff is fully hooked up now, works perfectly :) | 17:07 |
and471 | mvo, I shall push my fixes, not quite ready for merging tho | 17:07 |
mvo | and471: sweet | 17:07 |
and471 | mvo, I need to speak with mpt as we can't remember the password - only the auth | 17:07 |
and471 | mvo, so this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=review-single-sign-on.jpg | 17:07 |
and471 | mvo, doesn't really work | 17:08 |
and471 | rephrase - make sense | 17:08 |
and471 | mvo, do you know about the status of the online review service? Is that going to be ready anytime soon? | 17:09 |
mvo | and471: not for maverick I think, it would be awsome though. its not hard, just takes a person willing to work on the django code | 17:11 |
mvo | most of it is there | 17:11 |
and471 | mvo, that would be too big a leap for me :) | 17:11 |
and471 | mvo, for the keyring, do we need the secret? | 17:11 |
mvo | what secret? | 17:11 |
mvo | sorry, faulty memory :) | 17:12 |
and471 | mvo, ah maybe I have implemented this incorrectly | 17:12 |
and471 | mvo, right so with a keyring item you have an attribute called a 'secret' | 17:12 |
and471 | mvo, and then a set of attributes/details | 17:12 |
and471 | mvo, I have put all the auth stuff into the details, but maybe it should be in the secret | 17:13 |
and471 | is there anyone with some expertise/knowledge on gnome-keyring? | 17:13 |
mvo | and471: yeah, the secret stuff needs to go there | 17:13 |
and471 | mvo, ah ok | 17:13 |
and471 | mvo, it is unfortunate, as the details are really easy to parse, they just come out as a python dictionary :) | 17:14 |
and471 | mvo, you will see in the keyring stuff, instead of updating values, I have just told it if we already have a keyring in there, to delete it and create a new one | 17:46 |
and471 | mvo, I have found it not to be reliable to update existing one, I just lost pretty much all of my keyrings :) | 17:47 |
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mvo | and471: *meh* bad | 18:21 |
mvo | hey pitti - sorry was at dinner | 18:21 |
pitti | mvo: no problem :) | 18:21 |
and471 | mvo, are there some docs for ubuntu sso? I need to find out the name of the person signing in | 18:34 |
mvo | and471: hold on, I vaguely remember about that | 18:40 |
and471 | mvo, thanks, also I cam across this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client. I just wanted to check there was no duplication of effort here | 18:47 |
and471 | *came | 18:47 |
pitti | good night everyone, have a nice weekend! | 18:48 |
and471 | you too | 18:48 |
mvo | and471: oh, this one. yeah, this is work that we may use. it depends on how far it is and how unbranded | 18:49 |
and471 | mvo, I haven't done all this work for nothing have I? | 18:49 |
mvo | and471: no, I don't think so. but I hope the two can merge in the long run | 18:50 |
and471 | mvo, oh good :) | 18:50 |
mvo | and471: but its a good point that you raise, we definitely need to talk | 18:51 |
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and471 | mvo, any luck with the docs? | 18:51 |
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