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[01:02] <rsalveti> kirkland: did you have time to look at the merge proposal? or just decided to wait until the qemu next release?
[01:03] <hallyn> rsalveti: oh no!  kirkland is out today and tomorrow
[01:03] <hallyn> mathiaz: can you look at a merge proposal ^ ?
[01:03] <rsalveti> oh :-)
[01:04] <hallyn> (AFAI am concerned i've greenlighted it)
[01:07] <kirkland> rsalveti: i'll get it
[01:07] <kirkland> rsalveti: haven't yet
[01:08] <kirkland> rsalveti: could you send me an email about it?
[01:08] <rsalveti> kirkland: sure, thanks :-)
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[04:09] <judgen> I have asked in #ubuntu but people does not seem to know.. but i want the text information at boot so i can see what is going wrong. nosplash in grub does not seem to do the trick. Any suggestions?
[04:09] <judgen> it was easier before when i could just purge usplash
[04:12] <StevenK> judgen: Rremove 'quiet' from the boot options
[04:12] <judgen> StevenK, ok, i will try that. Thanks
[04:13] <judgen> i also want my non graphics loaded grub selector (preferably monochrome) would you happen to know how to do that too?
[04:14] <StevenK> Not off hand, no, sorry
[04:16] <RAOF>  /etc/default/grub is where you want to look.
[04:17] <judgen> StevenK, i found it "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" is supposed to be added...
[04:17] <judgen> I really dislike how my grub.cfg is destrouyed every time the kernel is updated.
[04:18] <judgen> i am thinking of making it unwritable, even by root.
[04:19] <judgen> by putting grub on an sd card with hardware R/W protection
[04:21] <StevenK> judgen: It's re-written, yes, but there are ways of editting it so your changes are preserved.
[04:21] <judgen> StevenK, how do i set it to load the last instance as defaul ALWAYS
[04:21] <judgen> =D
[04:22] <judgen> and as the number of installed kernels increase, i can not use numbers as i used to in menu.lst
[04:23] <StevenK> judgen: To be honest, I use the default grub config, and the latest kernel appears at the top of the list, which suits me fine
[04:23] <judgen> or can i disable the automatic generation of grub.cfg and just edit it manually (like i do now, and have to redo every time i update)
[04:23] <judgen> I have 4 OS'es on the system, and i would like BSD to be deafult.
[04:26] <judgen> ubuntu, BeOS/Haiku and QNX is booted as secondary system.
[04:26] <judgen> oh well, this will have to wait untill tomorrow, as it is 05:26 here now and i really need some sleep.
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[07:38] <pitti> Good morning
[07:38] <nzmm_> good evening :)
[07:45] <dholbach> good morning
[07:48] <mvo> hey dholbach
[07:49] <ttx> Hm, PPAs are slow nowadays. Published: 23 hours ago / Build estimated start in 17 hours
[07:49] <dholbach> hiya mvo
[07:49] <ttx> that kind of delay makes it difficult to insert in any kind of efficient workflow
[07:49] <micahg> ttx: stuff uploaded today won't get built until Sunday unless they return the rest of the PPA builders
[07:49] <ttx> micahg: "they" ?
[07:50] <micahg> ttx: whoever took them :)
[07:50] <ttx> After the laptop thief, here comes the PPA builder thief.
[07:59]  * pitti NEWs linux-meta to make CDs buildable again
[08:04] <micahg> pitti: when SRUing a newer version of an app that's been broken out into new packages, is it better to undo that for the SRU?
[08:05] <diwic> Is there a way to automatically subscribe to all bugs you comment on in LP?
[08:05] <diwic> or do I have to check that checkbox all the time?
[08:08] <pitti> micahg: yes, we avoid new packages in SRUs
[08:08] <micahg> pitti: k, will keep in mind, thanks
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[09:29] <happyaron> could somebody have a look at Bug 611224 ?
[09:29] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 611224 in ibus (Ubuntu) "Please merge ibus (1.3.6-1) from Debian Squeeze" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611224
[09:46] <geser> any main sponsor free for sponsoring bug #607448?
[09:47] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 607448 in mutt (Ubuntu) "Drop libtokyocabinet-dev from Build-Depends as it's in universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607448
[09:51] <mvo> geser: I can do that for you
[09:51] <geser> mvo: thanks
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[14:13] <ogra> jdstrand, can you let ubuntu-netbook-efl-default-settings out of NEW please
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[14:43] <maxb> Hi, please can I have a give-back on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/subversion/1.6.12dfsg-1ubuntu1/+build/1853960 - I would like to take advantage of the currently empty sparc buildqueue to test whether the failure is intermittent
[14:44] <pitti> maxb: done
[14:44] <maxb> thanks
[14:44] <StevenK> pitti is too fast ...
[14:44] <StevenK> I need a neural link to Launchpad, like pitti has ...
[14:45] <pitti> StevenK: how can you not have one? you are writing the stuff now :)
[14:46]  * StevenK blames lag.
[14:46] <StevenK> Yes, that will do ....
[14:51] <ScottK> pitti: Would you please rescore xine-lib (again) - should work this time.
[14:52] <pitti> ScottK: doing
[14:52] <ScottK> Thanks.
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[14:59] <smoser> Anyone know where netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz comes from on an ISO ?
[15:10] <soren> smoser: debian-installer somewhere, I believe.
[15:49] <SpamapS> any moderators for ubuntu-devel available?
[15:49] <SpamapS> I sent a message yesterday, need it to be approved
[16:02] <mterry> Lutin, ping about your netbook-launcher-efl patches
[16:13] <SpamapS> ccheney: ping?
[16:13] <ccheney> SpamapS, hi
[16:14] <SpamapS> ccheney: so, I need my gearman-interface package sponsored into debian.. do you know anybody who could help me with that?
[16:14] <SpamapS> http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=gearman-interface
[16:14]  * ccheney takes a look
[16:15] <ccheney> SpamapS, i can take a look quick and see if it looks sane and upload it if so
[16:15] <ccheney> SpamapS, sorry i was out sick tue-thu this week
[16:15] <SpamapS> ccheney: that would be amazingly amazing. :)
[16:15] <SpamapS> ccheney: you uploading, not you being sick. You're well now I hope?
[16:17] <ccheney> heh, yea much better today, they gave me antibiotics and some other things to see if it would help and it appears to have worked
[16:18]  * ccheney is setting up a sid chroot and then will do the build and check it out before uploading :)
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[16:21] <SpamapS> ccheney: sweet.. I do see actually, that there are two changes I didn't put into that upload.. both are minor source package things (a copyright addition, and README.source) ..
[16:22] <ccheney> SpamapS, email me a debdiff of the changes and i can add them before upload
[16:24] <SpamapS> ScottK: note, I'm tasking ccheney with the upload for now because the group has been so slow to respond. Hopefully DPMT can take it over in the future.
[16:27] <ScottK> SpamapS: Sure.
[16:28] <mterry> asac, ping about new EFL stack
[16:28] <SpamapS> ccheney: ok, debdiff sent
[16:29] <ccheney> ok
[16:30] <Lutin> mterry: pong
[16:30] <mterry> Lutin, hi :)  Where can I grab the latest EFL stack to compile/test against?
[16:32] <Lutin> mterry: actually, my patch was only partial, I had some time yesterday to make a complete patch. you can find it here: http://people.dunnewind.net/lutin/files/0001-Update-Netbook-launcher-efl-to-make-it-work-with-the.patch
[16:32] <Lutin> mterry: then, you can just grab the packages from debian unstable, they install just fine on ubuntu
[16:33] <mterry> Lutin, ah.  OK will do so
[16:35] <Lutin> mterry: would you run into any unexpected into, please let me know. I compile and tested it yesterday, seemed to work fine, but I did'nt check extensively
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[16:35] <mterry> Lutin, k
[16:35] <Lutin> s/into/issue
[17:15] <mterry> Lutin, I get "ERR:elementary elm_win.c:541 elm_win_add() Cannot create window." when running n-l-e after patch and debian stack
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[17:17] <Lutin> mterry: is that the only error ?
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[18:14] <SpamapS> mathiaz: ping!
[18:24] <hallyn> man, that's a ping<BANG>
[18:24] <hallyn> mathiaz is probably hiding now
[18:26] <SpamapS> one ping only
[18:29] <bilalakhtar> !ping
[18:29] <ubottu> pong
[18:36] <mathiaz> SpamapS: o/
[18:36] <SpamapS> mathiaz: Updated the ceph merge proposal
[18:37] <mathiaz> SpamapS: cool thanks
[18:40] <wcomnisky> hi! can i read the serial number of my HD using dbus-send?
[18:42] <SpamapS> mathiaz: UUGGH
[18:42] <SpamapS> mathiaz: it looks like the tarball we were using as "0.21" was not "0.21"
[18:42] <mathiaz> SpamapS: that's anooying
[18:43] <SpamapS> mathiaz: very, there are a number of source changes .. 0.21 wasn't actually official released until yesterday, which I just figured out...
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[18:44] <mathiaz> SpamapS: hm - ok. Just update the branch then.
[18:44] <SpamapS> mathiaz: thats what I'm doing.. just trying to be careful. :)
[18:48] <SpamapS> mathiaz: the cavalier attitude that the ceph project has toward licensing bothers me somewhat.. I hope it doesn't come back to bite them.
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[19:25] <mterry> asac, Lutin: n-l-e 0.3.2 released
[19:28] <superm1> kees, by chance did you run into any problems when you upgraded to lucid with your sbuild/schroot setup?
[19:29] <superm1> kees, i just jumped hardy->lucid on my build box, and for some reason every invocation of schroot is giving me "E: default: Chroot not found"
[19:37] <sda> hi all
[19:39] <sda> i would like help for ubuntu dev, but i don't know my level and what i can or cannot do. help
[19:40] <SpamapS> sda: There are a number of wiki pages that may be helpful.. one moment..
[19:41] <SpamapS> sda: for server, there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/GettingInvolved
[19:43] <SpamapS> sda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu   that one is good too
[19:43] <SpamapS> !contribute
[19:43] <ubottu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
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[21:10] <Lutin> mterry: neat
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[21:12] <facundobatista> Hello everybody!
[21:13] <facundobatista> I have this project, magicicada (https://launchpad.net/magicicada) that is in Universe for Maverick
[21:14] <facundobatista> Elliot Murphy did the first work to get it uploaded
[21:14] <facundobatista> yesterday I released 0.1.3 of it, and I'm following Elliot's instructions that say
[21:14] <facundobatista>     * Prepare the source package and ask for a sponsor.
[21:14] <facundobatista> I have the source package
[21:14] <facundobatista> is this a good place to ask for a sponsor?
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[21:14] <facundobatista> (thanks!)
[21:16] <mterry> facundobatista, I'm guessing that Elliot meant file a bug with a debdiff and subscribe ubuntu-sponsor?  Let me find wiki documentation
[21:16] <facundobatista> mterry, thanks!
[21:18] <mterry> facundobatista, at what level of ubuntu development are you comfortable?  You say you have a source package, but what does that mean to you?  A tarball for magicicada or a new version of the ubuntu source package that uses that tarball?
[21:20] <mterry> facundobatista, I believe this will help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate
[21:21] <facundobatista> mterry, I'm just learning, but I branched lp:ubuntu/magicicada , merged my own upstream new release, fixed the changelog, and prepared magicicada_0.1.3-0ubuntu1* files (.diff.gz, .dsc, _source.build, and _source.changes)
[21:23] <mterry> facundobatista, ah...  You're using the fancy new bzr method.  OK.  So you have two options.  Prepare an old-school debdiff and follow the instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[21:24] <mterry> facundobatista, or, push your changes to lp:~USER/ubuntu/maverick/magicicada/0.1.3-update and point to that instead of uploading a debdiff (but still do the other sponsorship steps)
[21:24] <mterry> facundobatista, I can review when you've filed, if you do it within the next hour or so
[21:25] <facundobatista> mterry, will do, thanks
[21:27] <mterry> facundobatista, ping me when filed  :)
[21:33] <facundobatista> mterry, I think I did all the necessary steps, the bug is #611848
[21:34] <facundobatista> mterry, please let me know if I should have done anything different (even if it's good enough like this, maybe I could do something to make you work less)
[21:34] <facundobatista> mterry, thanks!
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[21:38] <ari-tczew> mterry: reffering to bug 461987 your patch will be useless
[21:38] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 461987 in antlr3 (Ubuntu) "Enable testsuite (and fix resulting failures)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/461987
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[21:51] <mterry> facundobatista, a little tip.  if you type "bug XXXXX" like "bug 611848", ubottu will make a nice link
[21:51] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 611848 in Ubuntu "Update magicicada to 0.1.3 in Maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611848
[21:52] <mterry> facundobatista, one thing: don't assign to the sponsors team, subscribe them
[21:53] <facundobatista> mterry, oh, ok, thanks
[21:57] <facundobatista> mterry, so, here ends my "request for sponsorship"? should I do something else? just let me know! thanks!
[21:58] <mterry> facundobatista, yeah, I take it from here.  Normally you wouldn't need to ping anyone on IRC or anything.  subscribing ubuntu-sponsors puts it in the sponsorship queue.  If it's urgent or you know someone who wants to sponsor it, feel free to ping someone on IRC
[21:58] <facundobatista> mterry, ok, thank you very much for the help!
[22:11] <mterry> facundobatista, one last tip.  In your changelog, if you put the string  "LP: #XXXXXX" in your message, Launchpad will automatically mark the bug fix committed when I push it.  I did it for you this time, and it's a bit of a chicken-and-egg thing since you often do the changelog entry before you file, but it's nice to have
[22:13] <highvoltage> sabdfl: nice, your blog entry got slashdotted
[22:13] <ion> Nothing prevents one from editing the changelog entry when there is a bug number. :-)
[22:14] <mterry> ion, yar, agreed  :)
[22:14]  * micahg hand edits the debdiff sometimes before adding to LP
[22:14] <ion> Why hand edit a diff?
[22:17] <mterry> facundobatista, there ya go: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/magicicada/0.1.3-0ubuntu1  Thanks for helping make Ubuntu (One) rock!  :)
[22:17] <micahg> ion: faster than regenerating the whole debdiff after the patch is good
[22:17] <micahg> ion: just to add (LP: #XXXXXX) :)
[22:18] <ion> One can regenerate it with a single command, and you’ll have the changelog change nicely in the version history. :-) And one might want/need to edit the patch further anyway.
[22:19] <micahg> sure
[22:19] <mterry> facundobatista, oh, and one other thing I noticed.   You filed the sponsorship bug against the whole of ubuntu.  But you should have filed it against the magicicada package *in* ubuntu:   http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/magicicada/+filebug
[22:20] <facundobatista> mterry, thanks! taking note of all these details
[22:24] <micahg> facundobatista: you can also run 'ubuntu-bug PKGNAME' to take you straight to the proper filebug page
[23:54] <sabdfl> highvoltage: that will draw in the opinions, then :-)
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