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[11:03] <drubin> Morning huats
[11:05] <huats> morning drubin
[11:07] <drubin> mmm /me thought this was #ubuntu-locoteams
[11:07] <drubin> it was the same peopel
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[16:00] <rickspencer3> hi all
[16:00] <ScottK> Hello rickspencer3.
[16:00]  * rickspencer3 tap tap tap
[16:00] <rickspencer3> is this thing on?
[16:00] <rickspencer3> #startmeeting
[16:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is rickspencer3.
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[16:00] <ttx> o/
[16:01] <marjo> rickspencer3: it's on
[16:01] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC}
[16:01] <MootBot> New Topic: [TOPIC}
[16:02] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] Milestoned Bugs
[16:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Milestoned Bugs
[16:02] <rickspencer3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs?field.milestone=27561
[16:03] <rickspencer3> never mind, let's just go through the team topics
[16:03] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] QA
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA
[16:03] <marjo> # Hardware testing
[16:03] <marjo> http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
[16:03] <marjo> Laptops:
[16:03] <marjo>     passed:  57 (90%)    failed:   0 ( 0%)    untested: 6 (10%)
[16:03] <marjo> Servers:
[16:03] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
[16:03] <marjo>     passed:  58 (87%)    failed:   0 ( 0%)    untested: 9 (13%)
[16:03] <marjo> Netbooks:
[16:03] <marjo>     passed:   1 (100%)   failed:   0 ( 0%)    untested: 0 ( 0%)
[16:03] <marjo> Desktops:
[16:03] <marjo>     passed:  10 (71%)    failed:   0 ( 0%)    untested: 4 (29%)
[16:04] <marjo> The 'Netbooks' category is a new distinction in the test environment. Previously, netbooks were categorized as laptops.  We ran one netbook through as a test (which was successful) and we will be reclassifying
[16:04] <marjo> the others from 'laptop' to 'netbook' next week.
[16:04] <marjo> rickspencer3: new report this week is:
[16:04] <marjo> Boot Performance Week of 23/7/2010-30/7/2010
[16:04] <marjo> --------------------------------------------
[16:04] <marjo> http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/daily-bootcharts/averages.html
[16:04] <marjo> Total number of systems with regressions: 16 out of 71 total
[16:04] <marjo> The chart checks the number of systems which had boot time regressions over a one week time period.  The boot time is broken into categories of Boot Time, Kernel Plumbing, X.org, Desktop, and Kernel Init.  An addition of more than one second to any one of the categories is considered a regression. This database is still new and it will take some time for the data to normalize.  Therefore, 1 second was picked as a start
[16:04] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/daily-bootcharts/averages.html
[16:04] <marjo> ing point.
[16:05] <marjo> rickspencer3: will be sending system details to robbiew's team for root cause analysis
[16:05] <rickspencer3> ouch
[16:05] <rickspencer3> looks like desktop team has some work to do
[16:06] <rickspencer3> looks like a pretty serious regression
[16:06] <rickspencer3> anything else marjo?
[16:06] <marjo> rickspencer3: we will start with foundations team and they will forward as necessary
[16:06] <marjo> Spec Status
[16:06] <marjo> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:06] <marjo> qa-maverick-mago-i18n - 100% complete
[16:06] <marjo> qa-maverick-improve-iso-tracker - 100% complete
[16:06] <marjo> server-maverick-qa-workflow - good progress, on schedule.
[16:06] <marjo> qa-maverick-automated-server-testing - good progress, cpio and built-binaries successfully run in Checkbox test framework
[16:06] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:06] <marjo> rickspencer3: that's it from QA team
[16:07] <rickspencer3> thanks marjo
[16:07] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] Security
[16:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security
[16:07] <marjo> thx!
[16:07] <rickspencer3> kees?
[16:08] <ScottK> marjo: Would it be possible to add a Kubuntu desktop to the bootcharts?
[16:08] <rickspencer3> anyone here for security?
[16:08] <rickspencer3> jdstrand?
[16:08] <ScottK> They're usual report is "Doing fine, most of our work is post release".
[16:09] <ScottK> They're/their
[16:09] <rickspencer3> fair enough
[16:09] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] Kernel
[16:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel
[16:09] <ogasawara> Overall Kernel Team status is summarised at the first URL below, including the item(s) called out in the agenda.  Our burndown chart for Alpha3 is at the third URL, and our overall burndown chart is at the fourth:
[16:09] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:09] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone maverick-alpha-3
[16:09] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:09] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:09] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:09] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone maverick-alpha-3
[16:09] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:09] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:09] <ogasawara> On the specs noted in the agenda, status is as follows:
[16:09] <marjo> scottk: will investigate; thx
[16:09] <ogasawara> * kernel-maverick-apparmor: kudos to jjohansen as his recent upstream submission for apparmor was just accepted to the security-testing-2.6#next tree and should make the 2.6.36 merge window. \o/.
[16:09] <ScottK> marjo: Great.  Please let me know if you need anything.
[16:09] <ogasawara> * kernel-maverick-pv-ops-ec2-kernel: jjohansen has submitted patches to enable the -virtual kernel as a pv-ops kernel on EC2.  This does not include the pv-on-HVM drivers which are required for Amazon's Compute Cloud.  pv-on-HVM needs a little more time for evaluation so we've re-targeted that item to beta.  All other items are now complete.
[16:10] <ogasawara> On the bugs noted in the agenda, status is as follows:
[16:10] <ogasawara> Bug 591941
[16:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 591941 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "SDHC card not recognized" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591941
[16:10] <ogasawara> mpoirier continues to work this issue with TI.  There is still no resolution.  We have re-targeted the milestone to maverick-beta.
[16:10] <ogasawara> Bug 595489
[16:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 595489 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "lvm snapshot causes deadlock in 2.6.35" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595489
[16:10] <ogasawara> A patch has been posted upstream but not yet accepted.  I suspect it will not make 2.6.35 final.  We'll have to evaluate carrying it as a SAUCE patch for Maverick.
[16:10] <ogasawara> Bug 597387
[16:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 597387 in Ubuntu Maverick "pv-ops kernel only works in 3 of 4 zones in EC2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597387
[16:10] <ogasawara> Test kernels that work in all zones have been posted and should be resolved with the recently submitted patches (see spec notes above)
[16:11] <ogasawara> As a general status, we've rebased to 2.6.35-rc6 and uploaded, ie linux-2.6.35-12.17.  We'll do one more upload today.  We're also hoping for 2.6.35 final to land today/tomorrow so we might do a last minute upload over the weekend.  We are above the trend line in our Alpha3 burndown chart but below the trend line overall.  The remaining Alpha3 work items are not release critical.
[16:11] <ogasawara> Questions?
[16:11] <rickspencer3> none from me
[16:11] <rickspencer3> moving on
[16:12] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] Foundations
[16:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Foundations
[16:12] <rickspencer3> cjwatson perhaps?
[16:12] <ScottK> One big item I know of is trying to take a decision next week on adding Python 2.7 as a supported (not default) Python version.
[16:13] <rickspencer3> would that be doko?
[16:13] <ScottK> barry and doko.
[16:13] <rickspencer3> hmm, ok
[16:13] <rickspencer3> nothing from foundations, let's move on
[16:13] <ScottK> The goal would be to make a decision next week and if the decision is to go forward, execute right after Alpha 3.
[16:13] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] Server
[16:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server
[16:14] <rickspencer3> thanks ScottK
[16:14] <ttx> o/
[16:14] <ttx> Updated team status @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:14] <ttx> Alpha3-milestoned bugs:
[16:14] <ttx> Bug 572317  - image-store does not support images without a ramdisk (niemeyer): no time from upstream (niemeyer) to help, remilestoned to beta
[16:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 572317 in image-store-proxy (Ubuntu Maverick) "image-store does not support images without a ramdisk" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572317
[16:14] <ttx> Bug 591006 - [MIR] haproxy (clint-fewbar): MIR accepted, needs to be seeded
[16:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 591006 in haproxy (Ubuntu) "[MIR] haproxy" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591006
[16:15] <ttx> Bug 600174 - axis2c fails to build from source in maverick (kirkland): work in progress, on track
[16:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 600174 in axis2c (Ubuntu Maverick) "axis2c fails to build from source in maverick" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600174
[16:15] <ttx> Bug 600378 - [needs-packaging] python-libgearman (SpamapS): pending debian approval -- backup plan is to push to universe
[16:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 600378 in Ubuntu Maverick "[needs-packaging] python-libgearman" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600378
[16:15] <ttx> Bug 607730 - [needs-packaging] ceph (SpamapS): work in progress, should be done today
[16:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 607730 in Ubuntu Maverick "[needs-packaging] ceph" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607730
[16:15] <ttx> Bug 610265 - apparmor: cannot successfully start an Eucalyptus KVM instance (jdstrand): should get fixed together with bug 599450
[16:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 610265 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Maverick) "apparmor: cannot successfully start an Eucalyptus KVM instance" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610265
[16:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 599450 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "[apparmor] getattr handled incorrectly in 2.6.35-6.7" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599450
[16:15] <ttx> Bug 609992 - [MIR] libcrypt-openssl-x509-perl (MIR team): needs some MIR-team love
[16:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 609992 in libcrypt-openssl-x509-perl (Ubuntu Maverick) "[MIR] libcrypt-openssl-x509-perl" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609992
[16:15] <ttx> Bug 609112 - euca_conf --discover-nodes fails to register nodes (Daviey): work in progress
[16:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 609112 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Maverick) "euca_conf --discover-nodes fails to register nodes" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609112
[16:15] <ttx> Bug 608423 - mysql post-start script broken (zul): Unclear if more work is needed, will doublecheck with zul
[16:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 608423 in mysql-5.1 (Ubuntu Maverick) "[lucid-proposed] post-start script broken" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608423
[16:16] <ttx> Alpha3-milestoned specs status:
[16:16] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-libs (completed)
[16:16] <ttx> #
[16:16] <ttx> server-maverick-sru-process (completed)
[16:16] <ttx> server-maverick-wbemcim-providers (completed)
[16:16] <ttx> server-maverick-apport-hooks (completed): Migrated to a community effort
[16:16] <ttx> server-maverick-tomcat (80%): Almost done (needs publication in Debian and sync back in Ubuntu)
[16:16] <ttx> server-maverick-uec-provisioning (67%): Work can be completed next week (tooling work)
[16:16] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-kernel-upgrades (58%): On track, most items should be completed today
[16:16] <ttx> server-maverick-uec-monitoring (36%): Unclear status, some items will probably get postponed to beta
[16:16] <ttx> server-maverick-upstart-conversion (18%): Blocked on Foundations upstart reviews, but also some targets will get dropped
[16:17] <ttx> server-maverick-uds-web20-workloads (14%): Targets of opportunity, some of them will get dropped
[16:17] <ttx> Other Critical/High Specs < 100% completion:
[16:17] <ttx> server-maverick-ehcache-integration (89%): On track, can be completed next week (PPA work)
[16:17] <ttx> server-maverick-uds-cloud-loadbalancing (82%): On track, most work items postponed to beta
[16:17] <ttx> server-maverick-uec-eucalyptus-next (80%): On track, working through euca 2.0 regressions now
[16:17] <ttx> server-maverick-hypervisor (75%): On track, can be completed next week (testing work)
[16:17] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-gluster (67%): Only one sponsoring work item left
[16:17] <ttx> server-maverick-uec-testing (40%): Some work items will be postponed to beta, others should be complete next week
[16:17] <ttx> server-maverick-hadoop-pig (25%): On track, 3 remaining work items can be completed on release week
[16:17] <ttx> Other Medium/Low Specs < 85% completion:
[16:18] <ttx> server-maverick-papercuts (71%): On track
[16:18] <ttx> server-maverick-uds-seed-review (60%): On track, some work items postponed to beta
[16:18] <ttx> Spillover/postponed items:
[16:18] <ttx> We globally overcommitted for alpha3, and the cloud-kernel-upgrades and monitoring-framework specs were underestimated.
[16:18] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-images-sans-cloud: Postponed to beta, might be dropped from maverick
[16:18] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-utils: Postponed to beta, might be dropped from maverick
[16:18] <ttx> server-maverick-daily-vcs: Most work items postponed to beta
[16:18] <ttx> server-maverick-monitoring-framework: Simplified and merged with server-maverick-uec-monitoring
[16:18] <ttx> server-maverick-qa-workflow: Most work items postponed to beta
[16:18] <ttx> server-maverick-uec-liveusb: Most work items postponed to beta
[16:18] <ttx> server-maverick-uds-cloud-loadbalancing: Some items dropped, some postponed to beta
[16:18] <ttx> server-maverick-puppet-bootstrap: Depends on upstream work. Most items postponed to beta, might need to be dropped
[16:18] <ttx> server-maverick-uds-seed-review: Some work items postponed to beta
[16:19] <ttx> Maverick Bugs affecting server, in other teams:
[16:19] <ttx> Bug 563916 - [details.so] No prompt for [S]kip or [M]anual recovery on server boot
[16:19] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 563916 in plymouth (Ubuntu Lucid) "[details.so] No prompt for [S]kip or [M]anual recovery on server boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563916
[16:19] <ttx> targeted to 10.04.1, moved to 10.04.2
[16:19] <ttx> I'll target it to beta to make it appear here
[16:20] <ttx> (in maverick)
[16:20] <ttx> Questions ?
[16:20] <rickspencer3> none from me
[16:21] <rickspencer3> moving on
[16:22] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] Desktop
[16:22] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop
[16:22] <rickspencer3> kenvandine?
[16:22] <rickspencer3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:22] <rickspencer3> hmm
[16:22] <rickspencer3> no one from desktop either
[16:22]  * ScottK is here for the Kubuntu report.
[16:22] <rickspencer3> team of slackers there
[16:23] <ttx> ...
[16:23]  * ScottK goes ahead then...
[16:23] <rickspencer3> desktop engineering manager is falling down on the job
[16:23] <rickspencer3> ScottK, go ahead for Kubuntu
[16:23] <ScottK> Finished landing app menu in the default netbook layout this week.
[16:23] <ScottK> Packaging KDE 4.5.0 now with pre-release tarballs.
[16:23] <ScottK> Not sure if we can land it before Alpha 3 or not.
[16:24] <ScottK> Armel is looking better thanks to the Linaro toolchain work.
[16:24] <ScottK> Need help from foundations/mobile on kdebindings FTBFS on armel.
[16:24] <ScottK> It's the standard alignment issue, but I guess NC|Alaska is on vacation.
[16:25] <ScottK> If we can get that fixed, we have a good shot at trying to build armel images the first time this cycle.
[16:25] <rickspencer3> ogra can you help with the kdebidnings thing?
[16:25] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, hey...
[16:25] <ScottK> Continuing work on our plasma mobile tech preview.  Good progress, but likely will run past FF (and I think that's OK).
[16:25] <ogra> i have no clue about kde code but can help with everything else
[16:25]  * kenvandine isn't prepared, didn't realize seb128 wouldn't be here
[16:25] <ScottK> (it's a tech preview)
[16:26] <ogra> NC|Alaska will be back on monday
[16:26] <ScottK> ogra: Maybe dyfet can help.
[16:26] <ScottK> That's all I have.
[16:26] <ogra> dyfet, can you please ? ^^^
[16:27] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, nm, folks can read the wiki, it was my fault
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[16:27] <dyfet> kdebindings?  I can look at that
[16:27] <kenvandine> :)
[16:28] <ScottK> dyfet: How about we take that to #kubuntu-devel.
[16:28] <rickspencer3> thanks dyfet and ogra
[16:28] <rickspencer3> thanks ScottK
[16:28] <rickspencer3> moving on?
[16:28] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] Desktop Experience
[16:28] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop Experience
[16:29] <rickspencer3> davidbarth?
[16:29] <davidbarth> rickspencer3: yep
[16:29] <davidbarth> o/
[16:29] <rickspencer3> k ... your turn
[16:30] <davidbarth> so the status report is @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:30] <davidbarth> highlights for the report
[16:31] <davidbarth> appmenu: still not finished, main priority for the iteration to come; we still have a few elements to land that are required to provide the real experience we want
[16:32] <davidbarth> gtk: progressing slowly, but nothing critical; we've made some nice enhancements this iteration; argb /not/ proved to work, though cody has been working hard on fixing issues
[16:32] <davidbarth> at this very minute i'm still waiting for the latest and greatest patch, so i'd recommend putting it aside for the release unfortunately
[16:32] <davidbarth> sound: all good, on track
[16:32] <davidbarth> clock: minor, but nice and let's us update the UNE default panel with a proper indicator
[16:33] <davidbarth> me: not finished, priority for next iteration
[16:33] <davidbarth> sorry that's indicator-me, but you get the idea ;)
[16:33] <davidbarth> unity: on track, tons on visual improvements and new features like apps & files places updates; and software center integration recently
[16:33] <davidbarth> last
[16:34] <davidbarth> indicator-network: good progresses on UI, but definetely not on track to become the UNE default; we're still discovering some embarassing bugs in connman
[16:34] <davidbarth> the rest is in the report
[16:34] <davidbarth> questions?
[16:34] <rickspencer3> davidbarth, does "not proved to work" for rgba mean crashy, or something else?
[16:34] <davidbarth> i'll put up a Alpha3ReleaseNotes docu early next week
[16:35] <ScottK> davidbarth: agateau has been doing very nice work on app menu.
[16:35] <davidbarth> means we think we're at the end of it, but the patch still hasn't made it into gtk as of this time
[16:36] <davidbarth> we still have some flexibility up to monday, but we've agreed with seb128 that either it makes it for a3 or it won't make it for the release
[16:36] <davidbarth> ScottK: yes, thanks for him; we're very happy with the cross-desktop developments this cycle again
[16:37] <davidbarth> rickspencer3: to finish the story on argb, bratsche thinks the crashers are gone, including for emacs
[16:37] <rickspencer3> sounds good
[16:37] <davidbarth> rickspencer3: but again, that's not been widely tested
[16:37] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] User Experience
[16:37] <MootBot> New Topic:  User Experience
[16:37] <ogra> who uses emacs anyway
[16:37] <ogra> us vi
[16:37] <ogra> *use
[16:37] <ogra> :)
[16:38]  * rickspencer3 kicks ogra
[16:38]  * ogra grins
[16:39] <rickspencer3> any one from Ux?
[16:39] <ScottK> Apparently user experience is CLI today.
[16:39] <rickspencer3> hi iainfarrell good timing
[16:39] <oubiwann> rickspencer3: ivanka and iainfarrell just joined
[16:39] <rickspencer3> yeah
[16:40] <oubiwann> rickspencer3: we're in a call, and ivanka's getting something for you
[16:40] <rickspencer3> "getting something for me"?
[16:40] <rickspencer3> that sounds ominous
[16:40] <oubiwann> update
[16:40] <oubiwann> hehe
[16:40] <rickspencer3> ah
[16:40] <ivanka> rickspencer3: hello
[16:40] <rickspencer3> let's move on, we can come back
[16:40] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] ARM
[16:40] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM
[16:40] <rickspencer3> ogra, ?
[16:40] <ogra> phear my paste !
[16:40] <ogra> Detailed status at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:40] <ogra> ...
[16:40] <ogra> Short summary:
[16:40] <ogra>  * new rootstock release in preparation by rsalveti
[16:40] <ogra>  * omap3/4 image build issues are being debugged and worked on (we are running out of inodes on the preinstalled images atm, fix pending)
[16:40] <ogra>  * ubuntu-netbook-efl-default-settings was uploaded (sitting in NEW, MIR pending) to fix the session issues with the efl launcher
[16:40] <ogra>  * ongoing work on main ftbfs
[16:40] <ogra>  * mobile-m-lightweight-panel-for-efl spec was dropped (nobody had time to work on it :( )
[16:41] <ogra>  * mobile-maverick-arm-improved-subarch-detection had its items sorted for beta vs feature freeze
[16:41] <ogra>  * mobile-m-omap-edid-autodetection was also split into two parts for FF vs beta
[16:41] <ogra>  * apparently a security kernel upgrade kills babbage boards, this was discovered during the sprint and is researched by freescale and the kernel team currently (the boards are completely bricked after the kernel update)
[16:41] <ogra> ...
[16:41] <ogra> A3 Status:
[16:41] <ogra> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:41] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:41] <ogra> ...
[16:41] <ogra> A3 targeted specs:
[16:41] <ogra> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-m-image-builds-without-root
[16:41] <ogra> ...
[16:41] <ogra> There are 5 bugs A3 targeted
[16:41] <ogra> ...
[16:41] <ogra> Two Blocker A3 Bugs:
[16:41] <ogra> bug 605739
[16:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 605739 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) "BUG: Bad page state in process swapper pfn:94d23" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605739
[16:41] <ogra> bug 611638
[16:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 611638 in Ubuntu Maverick "[MIR] please include ubuntu-netbook-efl-default-settings in ubuntu maverick main" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611638
[16:41] <ogra> the babbage SRU issue iss very scary
[16:42] <ogra> it seems a kernel upgrade can brick the HW in a hard way (doesnt boot anymore)
[16:42] <rickspencer3> urk
[16:42]  * ogra never thought it would be possible to break HW through SW 
[16:42] <ogra> luckily the security kernel is still held back, so no harm done apart from our own boards
[16:43] <rickspencer3> ogra, are you saying that our last Kernel SRU literaly broke lots of people's computers?
[16:43] <rickspencer3> phew
[16:43] <ogra> FSVO lots :)
[16:43]  * rickspencer3 wipes sweat from brow
[16:43] <ogra> i dont think there are more than 10000 babbage boiards in the world
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[16:43] <ogra> and i guess probably a tenth of them runs ubuntu
[16:44] <ogra> but as i mentioned, kernel team and freescale are researching
[16:44] <ogra> any questions ?
[16:44] <rickspencer3> urk ...
[16:45] <rickspencer3> moving on
[16:45] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] MOTU
[16:45] <MootBot> New Topic:  MOTU
[16:45] <ScottK> Hello.
[16:46] <ScottK> No major excitement.  Currently worried about barry's master plan for Python 2.7 and what it will do to Universe.
[16:46] <ScottK> Still generally concerned about ports archs being behind and potential for problems when universe packages get built days/weeks later on some archs.
[16:46] <ScottK> That's all.
[16:47] <rickspencer3> all ... I might get disconnected soon
[16:47] <ogra> we'll get more builder HW for armel at least
[16:47] <ogra> post maverick
[16:47] <rickspencer3> if I do, just, try to find a way to go one without me ;)
[16:47] <ogra> so that shouldnt be behind that much anymore then
[16:48] <rickspencer3> iainfarrell, ivanka anything?
[16:48] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] Derivatives
[16:48] <MootBot> New Topic:  Derivatives
[16:48] <rickspencer3> anything there?
[16:48] <JamieBennett> Just a couple of points to mention wrt Linaro.
[16:48] <rickspencer3> sweet
[16:48] <rickspencer3> go ahead
[16:48] <JamieBennett> Firefox/xulrunner fail to build on ARMEL, if its an issue for A3 we need to upload a toolchain patch or a work around.
[16:48] <ivanka> rickspencer3: everything good here. No blockers. All on track.
[16:48] <JamieBennett> The linaro team also issues the first pull request to the kernel team for our linux-linaro tree.
[16:48] <JamieBennett> Other than that everything is on track.
[16:49] <ScottK> ogra: Armel is not a major problem in this perspective.  It keeps up much better than powerpc, sparc, ia64.
[16:49] <rickspencer3> thanks ivanka
[16:49] <ogra> ScottK, yeah
[16:49] <ogra> thats true
[16:49] <rickspencer3> JamieBennett, regarding the pull request, do you need a response from anyone?
[16:50] <JamieBennett> I'm not involved in the request but as long as it happening all is good :)
[16:50] <JamieBennett> we will keep on top of it
[16:50] <rickspencer3> ok
[16:51] <rickspencer3> can we move on to 10.04.1?
[16:51] <JamieBennett> yup from me
[16:51] <rickspencer3> ok
[16:51] <rickspencer3> first NEW RELEASE DATE: August 12, 2010
[16:51] <rickspencer3> !!!
[16:51] <rickspencer3> so, we need to work systematically and dilligently to do a great job with this
[16:52] <rickspencer3> oops
[16:52] <rickspencer3> [TOPIC] 10.04.1
[16:52] <MootBot> New Topic:  10.04.1
[16:52] <rickspencer3> marjo, Hardware Re-certification Status
[16:52] <marjo> * Hardware Re-certification Status
[16:52] <marjo> Ready to run automated tests on Monday, August 2; will need to manage testing schedule conflict with 10.10 Alpha 3 next week
[16:52] <marjo> pitti agreed this is a reasonable expectation (as of this morning)
[16:53] <rickspencer3> good
[16:53] <rickspencer3> marjo, else on Hardware Re-cert?
[16:53] <marjo> rickspencer3: not much more to say atm
[16:53] <rickspencer3> k
[16:53] <rickspencer3> ttx, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-eucalyptus-10.04
[16:53] <rickspencer3> ?
[16:54] <ttx> We don't expect to push any more SRU into eucalyptus in lucid...
[16:54] <ttx> looking at the spec now
[16:54] <rickspencer3> hmm
[16:54] <rickspencer3> ok
[16:54] <rickspencer3> ttx, can you follow up with robbiew regarding that next week?
[16:54] <rickspencer3> ok
[16:54] <ttx> sure
[16:54] <rickspencer3> milestoned bugs
[16:54] <rickspencer3> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs?field.milestone=27565
[16:54] <rickspencer3> looks like 2 highs are triaged
[16:55] <ttx> server-maverick-eucalyptus-10.04 has been superseded by server-maverick-uec-eucalyptus-next
[16:55] <rickspencer3> hmm
[16:55] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, can you let ChrisCoulson know that he needs to take care of
[16:55] <rickspencer3> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/enigmail-locales/+bug/572018
[16:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 572018 in enigmail-locales (Ubuntu Lucid) "enigmail-locales is no longer needed in Lucid+" [High,Triaged]
[16:55] <rickspencer3> for 10.04.1
[16:56] <rickspencer3> have him get in touch with robbiew about getting that taken care of?
[16:56]  * rickspencer3 whip cracking noises
[16:56] <rickspencer3> so, that's the agenda
[16:56] <rickspencer3> else to discuss regarding 10.10 or 10.04.1?
[16:57] <rickspencer3> ok
[16:57] <rickspencer3> let's call it a wrap?
[16:57] <rickspencer3> #endmeeting
[16:57] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:57.
[16:58] <marjo> rickspencer3: thx; nice!
[17:05] <chrisccoulson> hi, i just noticed my name was mentioned ;)
[17:08] <kenvandine> chrisccoulson, did you read that?
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